Bannon's War Room - Episode 5404： Deal Or No Deal With Iran; The Elites Are In Bed With The CCP

00:00:00.000 All's general election, right? Matchup is set. Well, Tallarico is blasting Paxton as, quote,

00:00:06.540 most corrupt politician in America. Paxton's political career has survived a criminal

00:00:12.040 indictment, FBI probe, and even impeachment by the Republican-led Texas Statehouse.

00:00:17.640 Paxton maintains he has done nothing wrong. Well, despite all of that,

00:00:20.960 Paxton has real staying power in Texas politics. He's won statewide office three times,

00:00:25.440 And he won last his his last race, not last night, but the last race for attorney general in 2022 by almost 10 points.

00:00:33.080 This is even as mounting scandals engulfed his candidacy.

00:00:37.000 Donald Trump, knowing all of this, endorsed Paxson in the days leading up to last night's runoff.

00:00:42.100 They both have mugshots. OK, they have a political base willing to look the other way.

00:00:47.100 But as Americans struggle to fill up the tank and put food on the table, the level of apparent corruption in our politics,

00:00:53.120 it might feel different to voters this November.

00:00:55.440 How historic was Cornyn's loss?

00:00:56.880 I feel like we're on The Tonight Show.

00:00:58.620 How historic was it?

00:00:59.720 How low do we go?

00:01:01.260 It was historic to a degree that we have not seen since my mother was born.

00:01:06.980 And I'm not going to give the exact age, but you'll be able to figure it out.

00:01:09.780 Because just take a look here.

00:01:11.060 Okay, the worst GOP senator primary lost by the margin.

00:01:14.700 The worst ever for Republican senator.

00:01:16.820 It now belongs to John Cornyn.

00:01:19.080 His 28-point loss on Tuesday night was the worst.

00:01:23.380 The worst since at least World War II for a Republican senator.

00:01:28.200 We have seen this over and over and over again.

00:01:30.980 When a Republican goes up against Donald Trump or Donald Trump really goes up against them,

00:01:36.920 it doesn't end too well for that Republican senator.

00:01:39.860 We saw it just a few weeks ago with Bill Cassidy getting, what, just 25% of the vote,

00:01:44.520 which was the lowest vote share total for any senator, incumbent senator.

00:01:48.360 And now when looking at the margin, again, breaking history, the 28-point loss for John Cornyn, the worst for a Republican senator since at least World War II, Kate Baldwin.

00:01:58.940 That is how historic it was.

00:02:00.940 That is, yeah, that fits into historic.

00:02:04.700 So Cornyn is kind of, if you were to say, like a Bush-era Texas Republican.

00:02:11.000 How much has the party shifted from the Bush era, if you will, since Trump has come into the court?

00:02:17.360 Yeah. I mean, look, John Cornyn was first elected back in 2002. And I will just tell you that the George W. Bush era of the Republican Party is simply put. It is dead. It is dead. And this was the capstone to it. And Donald Trump's Republican Party is very much alive. He is the leader of the Republican Party. I just want you to look here. I mean, this just tells you everything that you need to know, which is the net favorable rating with the GOP.

00:02:38.180 You have Donald Trump, you have George W. Bush.

00:02:39.840 Before Donald Trump declared back in May of 2015, look at this.

00:02:42.620 George W. Bush's net favorable rating was plus 58 points.

00:02:45.520 Donald Trump was 45 points underwater with Republicans.

00:02:49.100 Look at this.

00:02:49.720 This is an over 100-point shift, I do believe.

00:02:53.020 Donald Trump is now at plus 61.

00:02:54.780 That's an over 100-point shift in the positive direction for Trump.

00:02:57.800 And look at what happened to George W. Bush.

00:02:59.340 He dropped by 40 points from plus 58 to plus 17.

00:03:02.980 So George W. Bush has fallen through the floor since Donald Trump, of course,

00:03:06.560 first really appeared on the political scene, first ran for president for the Republican nomination

00:03:10.740 back in 2015, declaring in June of 2015, while George W. Bush simply put, as I said,

00:03:17.060 his Republican Party is dead. Republican voters are very lukewarm on him, and Republican voters

00:03:21.000 are still very hot to trot on Donald Trump. And you saw that in George W. Bush's home state

00:03:26.240 of Texas on Tuesday night with John Cornyn, of course, a Bush-era Republican going down

00:03:31.520 to a historic defeat. The bottom line is that Donald Trump, it's his party across the political

00:03:36.700 map, even in George W. Bush's backyard. One thing you see in the numbers, one thing we heard from

00:03:41.640 voters on the actual day, on election day there, was that they're going with Trump. Trump had

00:03:49.020 accused Cornyn of not being loyal enough, and they were going with Trump when they were going

00:03:53.360 to be supporting Paxton. That begs the question of how loyal do Republican voters want their

00:04:00.520 electeds to be to President Trump. Yeah, I think when you see this over 100 point shift towards

00:04:05.800 Donald Trump, I mean, that's just crazy. But then you just ask the Republican voters,

00:04:09.400 what do they want? What do they want from their members of Congress? GOP voters want congressional

00:04:13.620 GOP to do more to work with Trump. 80 percent, four and five, just 13 percent want them to do

00:04:18.760 more to stand up to Trump. When 80 percent plus of the party is with you on any particular question,

00:04:23.020 you know you own the party. This is, as I said, Donald Trump's Republican Party. And it's George

00:04:27.740 w bush has simply put that republican party is is dead it's in the graveyard i know a lot of people

00:04:32.400 over the last 15 or so years have looked at me like i've lost most of my hair if not all of it

00:04:37.240 but uh that may be true but what's also true is the fact that texas trend line is uh trending

00:04:43.540 towards democrats look at the races that they've won not statewide necessarily look at what they're

00:04:48.680 doing on the ground look at how they're changing voter behavior in communities that were once

00:04:54.940 solidly red or dynamically purple or whatever. They're gaining ground significantly. That has

00:05:02.880 a tendency in a race like this with a candidate like Tallarico to bubble up. And it has this

00:05:09.080 opportunity to create a level, Simone, of engagement that I think not only puts, and again,

00:05:15.700 we're going to put it on the table one more time, puts Texas in play this year. But in 2028,

00:05:22.320 Texas is a battleground state.

00:05:24.620 Brett, where do you see where the U.S. is right now in this war?

00:05:29.000 Anderson, I think it's good the president said he's in no hurry to get a deal

00:05:32.620 because we're nowhere close to a deal.

00:05:34.740 I mean, that was just my assessment.

00:05:36.160 I can see what they're trying to do is do a phase one deal

00:05:39.480 in which you basically go back to status quo in the Strait of Hormuz

00:05:42.320 and you leave the nuclear issues to a later stage. 0.96

00:05:45.820 I just don't see Iran doing that deal unless we accede to their effective control of the strait, which is what they want. 0.98

00:05:55.820 So we're stuck. 0.87

00:05:57.180 And the issue is the fundamental nature of the Iranian system, Anderson.

00:06:01.560 The decision makers are, again, it's the same regime ideology.

00:06:06.680 And I think it was telling that two nights ago, as we were negotiating to try to reopen the strait, 0.68

00:06:12.160 Iran was laying mines in the strait, trying to continue to build up some leverage. So I just,

00:06:18.080 I don't see a diplomatic breakthrough here. I actually think we're more likely as we head into

00:06:22.880 June to see some return to a military operation. I don't think that would break this stalemate

00:06:28.400 either. But we're in a great experiment now, Anderson. It's been about three months since

00:06:32.340 the Strait of Hormuz has been closed. Economic pressure will compound inside Iran. I don't

00:06:37.380 think that'll affect their calculus, at least not in the near term. And the macroeconomic pressure

00:06:42.460 will increase as we've been discussing. So that's kind of where we are. I wish I saw

00:06:48.480 the diplomatic off ramp. I just don't see it.

00:06:51.560 Hostilities to stay silenced. He does not want to resume a full-fledged conflict. That is clear.

00:06:57.600 But explain to us why the events of the last couple of days, including the impasse and

00:07:02.860 negotiations were over the weekend. We thought a deal was close. That's clearly not the case.

00:07:07.960 Why suddenly the tenuous truce may be really threatened.

00:07:12.940 Thank you. So today is May 28th. This is the three month mark of a war that I think the

00:07:19.680 president thought was going to last a few weeks. And I just you know, the clips you showed were

00:07:24.180 amazing. But I I'm not talking to Iranian leaders, but it's very much my sense that Iran is not 0.99

00:07:28.620 begging, dying or intent on a deal. And I think the president has skillfully over the last several

00:07:35.200 weeks raised this, you know, these prospects of progress. But I just don't see that much actual

00:07:39.660 progress over the main issues. Who's going to control the Strait of Hormuz and Iran's nuclear

00:07:44.080 program? There isn't much progress. And the issue is, you know, that these continuing strikes now

00:07:49.580 that are intensifying between U.S. and Iranian forces. And I also think there's an economic

00:07:54.660 pressure, that Iran succeeds and Iran gains influence in the region and gains power by 0.55

00:08:00.600 simply surviving and keeping the strait closed. And by that measure, you know, they are succeeding 0.96

00:08:06.160 here. And I had an analyst say to me yesterday, they think Iran has already won this war.

00:08:11.120 They have stood up to the United States, taken control of the Strait of Hormuz and not given

00:08:16.420 an inch yet so far in most negotiations. Primary Iranian goals at this point is to deny Trump that

00:08:23.140 credible claim of victory. And what they've shown is that the United States is a superpower who 0.88

00:08:28.720 could be waited out. The full force of our air power was deployed on Iran. And, you know, not 0.78

00:08:35.680 only, as David has shown, very few of our objectives were actually achieved. But in the

00:08:41.480 course of this patience, Iran has been able to undig a lot of its missile sites from the rubble 0.90

00:08:48.080 that they are at something like, I think, 70 percent of their pre-war capacity when it comes 0.68

00:08:53.160 to their missile capabilities, which is extraordinary, given the munitions that were

00:08:59.200 dumped on those sites. And you look at the way that this has played out. You look at the way,

00:09:04.960 of course, that China and other countries are observing this, and they've seen how asymmetric

00:09:11.280 warfare is an incredibly viable tactic against the United States. And they've seen the way in

00:09:17.840 which there are limits to U.S. power and limits to U.S. will. And despite the fact that we

00:09:23.900 engaged in this campaign, we are unwilling to put boots on the ground. We're unwilling

00:09:28.740 to risk American life in order to achieve the objectives. And Iran has emerged from this war 0.98

00:09:36.440 with new strategic advantages over the United States that we seem totally perplexed about how 0.86

00:09:44.420 to manage. Thursday, 28 May, year of our Lord, 2026. I want to thank the production staff here

00:09:51.960 at the War Room in the RAV crew in Denver. That was a magnificent cold open, and we're going to

00:09:57.920 get back to all of that. I want to start, we're going to get to not just the Paxton win, but the

00:10:05.080 implications up here on Capitol Hill of what must happen. We must stop. The Senate immediately,

00:10:11.740 like starting today has to get their mind right that uh donald trump's not a lame duck and they

00:10:17.940 got to stop treating like a lame duck and we'll get more or there's got to be changes in the

00:10:22.560 leadership and people say oh no i can't have him but look very simple you don't make changes you're

00:10:27.420 going to lose the senate full stop you're not going to the grassroots fire the grassroots fire

00:10:33.340 delivered the redistricting not not that trump guys no the the president trump came in when he

00:10:40.540 had to because this was not planned out in detail in advance. So once again, you had to put it on

00:10:46.640 the shoulders of President Trump to whip the votes at the end, but the grassroots forced it.

00:10:52.420 They were the forcing function. You and this audience were the forcing function. So we're

00:10:55.640 within very close to hold the House. Senate, not so much. We're also going to talk about

00:11:01.680 Laura Loomer last night, put up a great tweet. I've got Captain Fennell, Dr. Bradley Thayer,

00:11:07.220 We're going to go through Jensen Wong, agent of influence for the Chinese Communist Party, out it.

00:11:12.900 We're going to get to all that.

00:11:13.780 I want to start with John Solomon.

00:11:14.960 John Solomon, brother, help me out here.

00:11:18.180 The Trump appointed judge that sent me to prison that was then reversed by the Supreme Court.

00:11:24.680 Supreme Court.

00:11:25.660 He came in big this morning.

00:11:27.180 Did he not, sir?

00:11:28.880 He did.

00:11:29.860 He basically gave a green light to President Trump to implement his executive order that will reign in absentee and ballot.

00:11:37.220 mail-in balloting, and require citizenship checks. Allow the United States government

00:11:41.700 state by state to create a citizenship list, send it to the state, and demand that the states make

00:11:46.980 sure that non-citizens who aren't on the list don't get to vote in the fall election. This is

00:11:52.540 a major victory. Now, it's only the beginning of a long legal fight that almost certainly

00:11:56.780 will reach the Supreme Court. But what Judge Nichols did in this ruling is address each

00:12:02.900 Democratic argument, Jim Crow 2.0 argument in here, and blow it up. For instance, he blew up

00:12:10.340 the notion that somehow it's a Privacy Act violation for the U.S. government, which possesses

00:12:15.620 information about you, to send that information to the state, which also possesses that information.

00:12:22.200 If both parties already possess the information, how could your privacy be violated? So he literally

00:12:27.820 knocked down a lot of the insanity of the legal arguments that Democrats are going to wade.

00:12:32.220 The fact that that gets done early on in a preliminary junction ruling sets the stage for a Supreme Court to quickly look at this and say, hey, the judge is right on this.

00:12:42.180 Why are you wasting our time?

00:12:43.460 And so I think today's ruling has bigger merit than just giving the green light.

00:12:48.400 It sets the stage to get to a Supreme Court ruling before the fall election, if necessary, that upholds this executive order and creates a process.

00:12:57.460 One of the things that the judge went out of his way to point out is that if there's an error here, there's a process to fix it. 0.53

00:13:03.020 Let's suppose you accuse someone of being a non-citizen.

00:13:05.640 It turns out they're a citizen now.

00:13:07.180 He noted that the Trump administration had created correction procedures, which I think bode well for the law.

00:13:15.820 The other thing that bodes well for the law is that he concluded that it's unlikely that the plaintiffs would prevail on the overall overarching issues in challenging the law.

00:13:26.980 So that's why he didn't give the preliminary injunction.

00:13:29.360 All of those are early signals to the United States Supreme Court that could speed up a decision in favor of President Trump at the highest level of the legal system.

00:13:39.960 I'm going to get the lawyers on this afternoon. We're going to break it down.

00:13:42.340 But, John, right now, talk to me about process.

00:13:44.440 You said, I mean, it's a D.C. It's a federal judge in D.C.

00:13:49.020 He's got to go to the D.C. appellate court and then they'll go to the Supreme Court.

00:13:53.520 But how long do you see that the Supreme Court's out of here in the last day of June?

00:13:58.740 This is absolutely vitally important for the midterm elections.

00:14:02.940 Walk me through how you see this process playing out.

00:14:05.340 Well, you could you could have an emergency order when they're not in session.

00:14:08.580 And this probably qualifies given that the time sensitivities of the election are.

00:14:12.320 They probably will determine what they could determine, even if they're in recess, that this executive order is fine, that they're not they're not going to block it before the election.

00:14:21.880 So it's going to go to the appeals court next, almost certainly.

00:14:25.080 And probably NBAC, that could take two to six weeks.

00:14:28.580 And then the Supreme Court would be right at the end of their term getting an appeal if it kept going.

00:14:35.340 Massive one.

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00:16:28.060 okay in the 30 front words you know we're trying to juggle balls all the time and keep narratives

00:16:36.960 going to keep you up make sure that you've got the inside baseball more than anybody else as

00:16:42.420 things develop you kind of have a framework to be able to sort it out and and think about it

00:16:47.080 um and there's so much going on of course when something becomes hot like in texas you have to

00:16:52.840 focus on that and then you go to the next thing solomon john solomon's got two big areas here

00:16:59.480 one and john i saw the other day the doj who i think is really stepping up to the plate in a

00:17:05.280 pretty amazing way or interviewing some of some of the some of the some of the workers down in

00:17:10.120 georgia but for i just want to and then we've got all the situation with the chinese communist

00:17:15.160 party in ukraine is it the election folks the election um tampering the fraud is at so many

00:17:23.220 different levels you have state action you have local people it's it's the the elections here are

00:17:27.660 a unmitigated disaster and of course the maga movement has led the the charge in this just go

00:17:33.880 back and re-hit because this nichols thing i can already tell you what the market lies is this is

00:17:38.480 hitting like a bomb over the imperial capital this kind of came out of they were like what

00:17:43.540 did this guy just do they're in shock this is a big detail what so walk through just one more time

00:17:50.080 a federal judge in the dc district has just ruled in a pretty thorough ruling given that it's the

00:17:57.460 the first line of defense here walk us through it yeah he refused to impose a in a temporary

00:18:04.500 restraining order that would have stopped President Trump's executive order, reining

00:18:08.260 in absentee ballots and requiring citizenship checks. He refused to inject it, which basically

00:18:14.960 clears the way for it to take effect. But in so doing, he went through all of the Democrats'

00:18:20.540 arguments, those that are on TV, those that are in the briefs, and knocked them down one by one.

00:18:24.800 Basically did a Jim Crow 2.0, no, it's not. And so, hey, we don't think you have standing to sue.

00:18:31.740 That's one of the questions he raised and answered.

00:18:34.100 We don't think you can show harm.

00:18:35.860 That's one of the questions he answered.

00:18:37.420 We don't think, even if the president makes an error on a person, that it's a problem

00:18:41.900 because the president's staff created an error resolution process.

00:18:45.740 So step by step, he's laying down answers to all of the Democrats' objections to this

00:18:51.520 law.

00:18:52.400 Doing it so thoroughly at a preliminary injunction order is unusual, but what it does is it makes

00:18:57.720 those issues easier to get to the appellate court and to the Supreme Court.

00:19:00.960 And so there was some thought put into this by this judge to put this on a fast track by addressing all of the issues, not just, hey, should we have an injunction that blocks the law?

00:19:11.200 But not only are we not going to give you the injunction, I want to address the fact that I don't think you're going to succeed when you take this up on the merits.

00:19:18.440 And I think that was a very important strike by the judge.

00:19:23.480 Tulsi Gabbard.

00:19:24.280 So Tulsi Gabbard, and I know you have a very special relationship with her on this, kind of working through all these declassifications.

00:19:32.300 She is important, obviously, for what she did at DNI with all the intelligence, and that's one step, but also foreign interference in the elections.

00:19:39.780 Talk to me. 0.91

00:19:40.100 She went down to Georgia.

00:19:41.620 My understanding is that DOJ now is actually having some of the local workers.

00:19:46.440 They're bringing in some of the election workers from 2020.

00:19:50.140 And MSNBC, you should know, is in full meltdown on this.

00:19:52.900 They're actually bringing them in and starting to add some pretty pointed questions.

00:19:58.120 Is that correct, John Solomon?

00:20:00.720 Yeah.

00:20:01.080 So let's take these in two buckets. 0.98

00:20:03.180 First, Tulsi. 0.88

00:20:04.200 Tulsi is going to go out in a blaze of glory in her final month because she will be able to release in succession some extraordinary evidence of foreign interference in our election in 2020 and since.

00:20:15.960 The Intelligence Committee has known a lot more about active measures from China and Iran and other enemies that it did not make public.

00:20:23.240 Instead, it gave a false intelligence committee, gave the Americans a false sugar pill, saying that the 2020 election was the most secure in history.

00:20:30.760 She will systematically destroy that narrative.

00:20:34.040 Now, I think she'll be briefing senators soon on states whose voter databases were penetrated by China.

00:20:40.120 That could move the needle on some of these senators voting for the Save America Act.

00:20:44.480 I think there's a tranche of documents that Tulsi Gabbard needs from OMB.

00:20:49.580 If you listen and rest vote, pay attention to this.

00:20:51.500 This is important.

00:20:52.860 There is concern that Ukraine was involved in a 2024 scheme to take a large federal grant

00:21:00.200 that was given to Ukraine and launder it back to the Biden 2024 campaign.

00:21:04.940 We're not talking about Hunter Biden grift in 2014.

00:21:08.260 We're talking contemporaneously in 2024.

00:21:10.620 form. The evidence of whether that occurred or not sits in OMB's files, because OMB is currently

00:21:15.580 running the U.S. Agency for International Development. If she can get those documents,

00:21:20.900 she could make a criminal referral to the FBI. Thus far, she doesn't have those documents. So I

00:21:25.320 hope Russ Vogt jumps into action pretty quickly. The third thing, so those are the foreign 1.00

00:21:30.220 interference things. You could have cheating, a U.S. taxpayer money going to Joe Biden's campaign.

00:21:35.120 That's what the intercepts that we talked about a month ago showed. The proof of that, and I've

00:21:39.260 even talked to some U.S. intelligence community sources who are familiar with what they believe

00:21:43.320 happened here. The proof of that is sitting in USAID records currently in Russ Vogt's possession.

00:21:48.260 The second part of this is what the FBI is doing. Sometimes you don't get a mobster for being a

00:21:53.700 mobster. You get them on taxes or you get them on some other violation. The election workers down at

00:22:00.780 the state levels who changed the rules of election from what their legislatures mandated in Wisconsin,

00:22:06.520 in Georgia and Arizona can be criminally prosecuted if they did so no fully and willing,

00:22:12.100 meaning that the legislature said you should do X, but you ran the election this way because

00:22:16.240 that's what you wanted to do. That is what the FBI is beginning to interview people day in and

00:22:21.980 day out doing. And if they build enough evidence with these workers that instructions were given

00:22:26.940 contrary to what the legislature's intent was, you will have a full-blown cheating scandal.

00:22:31.540 The cheating will be they didn't conduct the election the way the law said. That's a little

00:22:35.340 different than what people thought. It's not machines flipping votes, but it's still a form

00:22:39.240 of cheating. It's still depriving the American public of a fair election. That's where the FBI

00:22:43.500 is going. And yesterday, there was a big win in North Carolina. It isn't getting the attention

00:22:47.300 it deserves. North Carolina bureaucrats in the election regime wanted to start registering

00:22:53.060 people who had never set foot in North Carolina and didn't live in North Carolina. They wanted

00:23:00.500 to give them voter registration status, even though they don't live in the state. A judge

00:23:04.860 said that is ludicrous. But those are some of those bureaucratic, deep state power moves that

00:23:10.500 are cheating elections. A judge beat that back. Things like that went on in 2020, and that's what

00:23:15.100 Kash Patel's pursuing. John, where do people get all the content, where they get the show,

00:23:21.660 where they get your podcast, news site, social media, all of it, sir? Justinews.com is the

00:23:27.700 website. Jay Solomon reports is the handle on all social media, and I'm lucky enough to follow you

00:23:31.420 every night here on Real America's Voice, 6 o'clock.

00:23:33.740 Just the news, no noise, with the amazing Amanda Head.

00:23:37.540 Keep hammering, sir.

00:23:38.940 Thank you very much.

00:23:39.700 I will, sir.

00:23:40.540 Thanks.

00:23:42.180 This Nichols thing is a big deal.

00:23:44.360 Very big deal.

00:23:45.420 And I want to give a hat tip to everybody that worked on that executive order.

00:23:52.080 These executive orders, remember, when they came out first in the first six months,

00:23:55.820 the flood of them, these have been thought through.

00:23:58.100 They're standing up, and this is a big, big, big deal,

00:24:00.860 particularly if you understand that mail-in ballots were the principal way that they were 0.99

00:24:06.160 stealing elections and continue to steal elections uh and of course ids of uh of foreigners um

00:24:13.320 i'm gonna get back to that and like i said i'm gonna get the lawyers on this evening to go through

00:24:17.980 even more detail uh that's gonna be a big deal and get to the supreme court i think on the emergency

00:24:22.560 docket pretty quickly on bank means the entire um appeals court in dc and i believe that will

00:24:30.880 definitely have to happen um laura loomer i want to pivot now artificial intelligence joe's going

00:24:39.060 to join me in a second we got we got huge story in politico about the process of the executive

00:24:45.400 of order on the mythos preview the one that came to a head a couple weeks ago i didn't love it

00:24:53.800 because it was voluntary not uh not mandatory it was 12 days not night there were all types of

00:24:59.640 but at least it started a process and of course when elon musk and uh with his ipo coming out

00:25:06.280 elon musk and uh open ai zuckerberg and altman all those guys saw it they went absolutely ballistic

00:25:12.440 and had it removed.

00:25:15.300 And so there's going to be a big fight to get this back up.

00:25:17.780 But Laura Loomer, one of the theories of the case of the accelerationist

00:25:24.380 is that we must be accelerationists because we've had like a Sputnik moment

00:25:30.060 and the Chinese Communist Party has shown that they are very close to us 0.54

00:25:35.040 in going next level on artificial intelligence

00:25:39.740 and therefore we cannot have any boundaries

00:25:42.560 and if things happen, as I said,

00:25:45.540 remember, I told you to write this down

00:25:47.280 a couple of months ago.

00:25:49.140 The entire business model of the United States,

00:25:53.840 and when I say the United States of America,

00:25:55.820 I mean both the government and the corporations.

00:26:01.720 Your entire business model

00:26:04.420 is a highly leveraged bet

00:26:07.680 on artificial intelligence full stop and if and if uh that does not hit on productivity increases

00:26:17.060 and particularly productivity productivity increases without mass layoffs particularly

00:26:23.820 in stem workers high value added highly paid what we call you know in the uh in the Bannon

00:26:30.140 household a good paying job so my mom would always say he's got a good paying job

00:26:34.880 uh this is going to lead to a catastrophe in the american economy we have a we have totally turned

00:26:43.600 in ever since davos a couple years ago when chat gbt came out and all the venture capitalists you

00:26:50.320 see the dollar signs right in their eyes and we've allowed the oligarchs to run totally free

00:26:55.440 and the u.s government let's be blunt we've still got two trillion dollar annual deficits

00:27:01.200 we're 40 trillion dollars and we got to find some some end in sight

00:27:06.200 the business model of the government and the country and corporations is a highly leveraged bet

00:27:15.560 on productivity increases of artificial intelligence and the reason we have this

00:27:22.100 thing it has to happen now it has to happen now it has to happen now you can't review anything 0.68

00:27:25.580 is because the chinese communist party equivalent in the 1950s they're going to get to the hydrant 0.65

00:27:31.200 bomb before we do. Well, we keep saying on here, how is that happening? That's happening 0.84

00:27:38.340 because we've allowed agents of influence like Jensen Wong and Elon Musk to pervert

00:27:46.600 the American strategy about blocking our greatest enemy, the existential threat

00:27:54.020 that is the Chinese Communist Party. The Chinese Communist Party has murdered 0.88

00:28:00.300 250 million of their own citizens they kind of brag about it that does not include the 450 0.98

00:28:09.440 million forced abortions 80 of which are little chinese girls a murderous bloodthirsty totalitarian 0.87

00:28:18.200 dictatorship with jensen wong as its sponsor here's your host stephen k van 0.90

00:28:30.300 I think there's some breaking news coming in at Axios.

00:28:32.440 I'm going to get to that in a second.

00:28:33.660 U.S. and Iran reach a deal but need Trump's final approval.

00:28:38.560 Officials say that's from Barack Ravid.

00:28:40.360 Remember, he's the Mossad's guy over at Axios.

00:28:44.980 Did I say that?

00:28:46.520 Yes, I did say that.

00:28:49.200 We'll get to that in a second.

00:28:50.900 I want to get back to the main thing.

00:28:53.340 So, Laura, I'm going to bring in Thayer first.

00:28:54.900 I got Joe Allen's joined us on AI.

00:28:57.260 We're not doomers.

00:28:58.180 Oh, these guys are doomers.

00:28:59.440 We're not doomers.

00:29:00.300 we are realists.

00:29:03.020 We have nailed this from the very,

00:29:04.500 because I knew that Joe Allen was a very, very smart guy

00:29:07.820 that really understood what was going on,

00:29:09.800 and not a technologist, but technologists,

00:29:12.740 I don't want to say they're a dime a dozen,

00:29:14.000 but you can understand where this technology is going

00:29:16.220 if you apply yourself.

00:29:19.980 You have to be realistic about this.

00:29:21.400 It is the technology, particularly as you converge

00:29:25.400 on the singularity, and the singularity is not simply

00:29:28.180 artificial intelligence.

00:29:30.300 It is a combination of many things, advanced chip design,

00:29:33.740 quantum computing, CRISPR, biotechnology.

00:29:36.900 That's why it's so heinous to see these things called the enhanced games.

00:29:42.180 It's like you want to see what your future may hold in the freak show.

00:29:46.500 Check it out.

00:29:48.860 To be human and to be fully human means to fight this.

00:29:54.320 And to fight this, you have to fight on many fronts,

00:29:57.540 and we're going to get to all that.

00:29:59.460 But just keep in mind, take your number two pencil.

00:30:01.620 I highly leverage bet on artificial intelligence productivity.

00:30:06.400 And guess what?

00:30:07.960 Hello.

00:30:09.420 They're finding out now maybe, hey, maybe those productivity gains are not there.

00:30:14.160 Maybe I still need humans. 0.96

00:30:15.400 Maybe I get rid of all the humans. 0.99

00:30:16.600 I got a big problem.

00:30:18.020 Maybe these data centers are not what they're cut up to be.

00:30:21.120 Maybe local people are saying, not in my backyard.

00:30:23.620 You're not going to do it here.

00:30:25.280 So you have many, many issues converging.

00:30:27.140 but so much of this revolves around what the oligarchs have have said is that hey and remember

00:30:35.240 you remember how patriotic they are these are people that really put the nation first these

00:30:40.440 are people that are burning with patriotism and and particularly their their number one concern

00:30:45.500 is america and her citizens please spare me these are some of the worst people in the history of

00:30:52.180 this planet. They are totally self-centered, all of them on the spectrum, and all of them are very, 0.91

00:30:59.580 very evil people. They have no concern with this country at all. They have no concern with the 0.65

00:31:06.580 citizens of this country at all, and their actions have shown that. Remember, these oligarchs are the

00:31:12.460 ones that banned you all, including me, where I'm still banning all these platforms, under the Biden

00:31:17.420 regime. They're the ones that put the Biden regime in power. These are the ones that tried

00:31:22.400 to destroy President Trump. I don't care if they're in Mar-a-Lago. I don't care if they're

00:31:25.340 in the West Wing. I know who these people are. They haven't changed. They're going to go. They're

00:31:33.760 going to flip. They're going to flip. You lose the House in the Senate this year. They're going

00:31:36.620 to flip quicker than they flipped last time when they're all going down to Mar-a-Lago to write

00:31:41.760 checks for the inauguration back on november 4th of 2024 yeah but the reason that we have to be 0.96

00:31:51.140 you know accelerationist and all of us or you're not patriotic is because the chinese communist

00:31:55.140 party is going to take a lead they're all in business with the chinese communist party

00:32:00.300 they're all in business with the chinese communist party and they don't cross xi

00:32:06.160 and two of the worst is jensen wong and elon musk

00:32:10.720 jensen wong is a agent of influence we could do a mashup right now if we had the time of jensen

00:32:17.980 wong sitting there saying it doesn't matter you know and with that little sincere you know kind

00:32:22.100 of tech guy uh you know tech hobbit you know it doesn't matter it doesn't really matter

00:32:27.140 who um you know who wins the uh the artificial artificial general the general talent race it

00:32:33.420 really matter and oh by the way it doesn't matter what company it doesn't matter what country

00:32:37.140 oh and we have to continue to to give them chips to give them uh training to give them access to

00:32:44.580 give them all of it uh because they want them in our ecosystem although all they're doing is trying

00:32:50.920 to steal our technology take our technology or use these guys to get our technology our training

00:32:56.000 our education and as soon as they can get ahead they will have a complete and total break because

00:33:01.080 that's how they think I hope is become clear to folks and watching this show that when you're

00:33:12.000 dealing in the Middle East and particularly in like the Strait of Hormuz of what you guys know

00:33:19.600 I was in as a naval officer in the Persian Gulf North Arabian Sea and with China and I was there

00:33:26.000 as a naval officer also you're dealing with two ancient civilizations don't just believe the

00:33:30.600 snatch and grab of the headlines in the in the news they're not like us the reason they're not

00:33:36.260 like us is is she's toast at the confab they had in china a week or so ago a toast he gave a toast

00:33:45.980 to his 5 000 years civilization and and oh yeah the 250th birthday you guys hope that works out

00:33:53.660 over the kids table hope that works out for you guys 250 that's we're very impressed get back to

00:33:59.100 us when you hit a millennia you know get it get back to us this is what when i was in um china

00:34:06.000 in the 2008 olympics you could see that opening ceremony if you didn't see the opening ceremony

00:34:09.880 we ought to play it one day the opening ceremony is up in your grill you get all the americans

00:34:14.180 it's up in your grill it's basically we're a 5 000 year old civilization and what are you guys

00:34:21.020 what you've been along how long what the same with the persians you're getting a little persian 0.97

00:34:28.420 right now you don't think these guys know how to go you don't think these guys don't have to drag 0.89

00:34:32.860 out a negotiation and just drag it out forever and the toughness that's to sit there and just

00:34:39.580 crater in 72 hours they're persians they took the you know they took the best shots from the greeks

00:34:46.100 they took the best shots from the romans it's in their dna it's in the dna of the chinese

00:34:54.100 Communist Party. It is an existential threat to its people, and it's an existential threat 0.91

00:34:58.860 to the people of the United States and to the United States as a country. It's not a peer

00:35:03.580 competitor. It's not some strategic partner, right? He used the facilities trap in his opening

00:35:11.880 two minutes of the meeting in the Great Hall to basically say, you're the declining power,

00:35:18.160 We're the rising power. Please be wise and stay out of our way, because as Graham Allison and Henry Kissinger taught us, if the if the failing former hegemon declining power, that would be you, United States.

00:35:35.060 if you don't act with wisdom and kind of clear out of the way on your way down catastrophic wars

00:35:42.800 happen and guess what after the catastrophic war the rising power runs it anyway so let's

00:35:48.460 avoid a war where hundreds of millions of people are going to die okay dr bradley thayer you've

00:35:57.000 got a book coming out with us in the summer of the fall about the hundred years of our fight

00:36:02.860 against this current version, you know, the communism, Marxism. 0.89

00:36:08.500 Although the Chinese run themselves like an imperial power.

00:36:12.580 Laura Loomer's done a great public service.

00:36:16.200 Last night, she put out in excruciating detail Jensen Wong

00:36:19.600 and kind of how we had this guy so close to what's going on at the White House

00:36:23.760 and artificial intelligence and on trips,

00:36:26.340 but also where his interests lie, particularly.

00:36:29.680 We're not only training him here.

00:36:31.580 We not only have 350,000 to 500,000 here that we're training and educating at the finest engineering schools.

00:36:38.880 They ain't over here studying medieval poetry, okay?

00:36:42.360 They're not doing Renaissance poetry.

00:36:45.740 Some of the princelings, the hangers-on, you know, the princelings of the upper echelon, they can do whatever they do, right?

00:36:54.260 Because they're going to inherit it in the state power.

00:36:56.320 So, yes, some of those are just, you know, hanging on at these Ivy League schools, hanging out, driving their Maseratis, you know, just, you know, causing trouble because they're princelings.

00:37:06.940 They're an imperial power. They'll go back and they're going to have their gigs.

00:37:10.700 But Lao Bai Jing's children, they're over here to get advanced degrees.

00:37:16.480 And guess what? They're forced as part of this.

00:37:21.700 You've got to report in.

00:37:23.140 If you want to go to the West and get trained, there's no free lunch here.

00:37:27.120 You've got to basically be an intelligence agent for us, whether you like it or not.

00:37:32.400 You're forced to do that.

00:37:34.400 However, on the other side, where, because remember, they want to decouple.

00:37:39.580 They don't always want to be a supplicant to have to come here to Western universities.

00:37:43.180 They want to do it themselves.

00:37:45.000 And they've got some great universities.

00:37:47.280 In fact, a major university that's essentially an intelligence, political, military technology powerhouse, and they've got guys that are on the board and guys that are very involved to drive that to the next level.

00:37:59.640 And guess what? Jensen Wong's at the top of the list, but you've got other Americans on there, too.

00:38:05.300 Dr. Thayer, walk through, and we can put it up.

00:38:08.680 Laura Loomer's tweet last night on Jensen Wong.

00:38:12.280 Sure, Steve. Happy to do it.

00:38:13.800 And thanks to you for calling attention to this and Laura for her work on this and blowing

00:38:19.040 this out.

00:38:20.060 So the strategic context is this.

00:38:21.880 We've got a major national security problem, which is going to be fatal to us, fatal to

00:38:26.140 the United States if it's not addressed today.

00:38:29.180 And that is the leaders of our financial and our technological commanding heights, if you 0.76

00:38:33.740 will, are working with our existential enemy, the Chinese Communist Party, and too little 0.96

00:38:39.620 is being done about it. 0.98

00:38:41.260 Well, now it's time to do something about it.

00:38:43.400 And thanks to Laura's tweet and your attention to it, maybe something will be done about it.

00:38:48.880 So what Laura's arguing, of course, is what she's revealing is Jensen Huang, the CEO of NVIDIA.

00:38:53.920 NVIDIA, of course, is essential.

00:38:56.140 It's the equivalent of U.S. Steel during World War II or Bethlehem Steel, right?

00:39:00.520 It's a premier AI chip producer.

00:39:03.800 It's critical for our national security.

00:39:06.680 Jensen Wang is going to be joining the advisory board of the School of Economics and Management 1.00

00:39:12.660 of Tsinghua University, which, of course, is directly under the control of the Chinese

00:39:17.880 Communist Party, as all universities are, as everything is in communist China.

00:39:23.980 So that development, of course, is absolutely essential.

00:39:29.180 Three points to make here.

00:39:30.380 First, this is not an advisory board.

00:39:32.840 It's a weapon.

00:39:33.520 It's a weapon deployed against us. It's an instrument to steal our technology, to influence and retard our innovation, and to promote the people of the Republic of China's, and to sustain fundamentally the engagement policy, which is what has been so successful for the Chinese Communist Party, where they've been able to buy off our elites. 0.99

00:39:58.080 Elon Musk, of course, Mark Zuckerberg, J.P. Morgan, Jamie Dimon, and Larry Fink, of course. 0.92

00:40:06.960 If you look at the advisory board of the School of Economics and Management, it reads like a who's who, really, of our financial community and of our technological community. 0.62

00:40:20.420 Second, of course, this advisory board is going to play a role in talent cultivation for the Chinese Communist Party and feed their political warfare narrative, of course, which is so important.

00:40:34.160 Third, we want to keep in mind that there is civil-military fusion. The PRC has civil-military fusion policy, as well as having passed many laws, most famously the National Security Law of 2017, which says that any entity is going to be a tool of Chinese intelligence.

00:40:57.600 So any technology, any information is going to be used by and employed by the Chinese intelligence community as well as the military.

00:41:08.020 So we need to think of this as a weapon, which is being used against us.

00:41:14.180 And just a final point is that Huang is keeping his fingers in every pie, right?

00:41:19.320 He also invests heavily in U.S. universities, Stanford, of course, as well as medium-sized universities like Oregon State.

00:41:27.220 He's investing heavily in Taiwan. He's investing $150 billion in Taiwan. NVIDIA is building a new

00:41:35.620 headquarters in Taipei, and he wants to continue to develop partnerships with TSMC.

00:41:43.140 Hang on. He's putting that into Taipei. He's putting it into Taiwan because he's one of the

00:41:49.060 biggest advocates of the reunification. He's just doing it because he's investing in a province.

00:41:54.900 He's got a province he's going to invest in.

00:41:57.200 This guy, okay, let's take a short break.

00:41:58.720 Dr. Bray, if they are, you got, yes, I think so.

00:42:03.560 Remember, an independent Taiwan is absolutely essential to an independent and free United States of America.

00:42:11.320 We are a Pacific nation.

00:42:13.300 The three island chain is paramount to our security.

00:42:18.180 Short break, back in a moment. 0.83

00:42:19.140 No more, let's take down the CCP.

00:42:21.640 Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.

00:42:28.440 Okay, Dr. Thayer, hang on.

00:42:29.800 I've got the Joe Allen in here, too.

00:42:31.460 We're going to go through this.

00:42:33.940 We're also going to go through this new piece, this memorandum.

00:42:36.860 It's kind of a 60-day thing.

00:42:37.980 It's fine. 1.00

00:42:40.140 Motion is progress when you're dealing with the Persians. 1.00

00:42:45.040 Captain Fennell. 1.00

00:42:47.560 And I want to say, I'm going to get back.

00:42:49.140 The Wall Street Journal has back-to-back articles, one, about the ghost fleet of tankers, how the Chinese Communist Party is still getting oil out of the Persian Gulf.

00:43:01.340 And then the second article is about how the blockade is really grinding them to a halt.

00:43:07.560 And, of course, the major thing in this memorandum of understanding for 60 days is to lift the blockade.

00:43:14.460 note to self no note to department of war maybe not okay my my first cut at your memo is maybe

00:43:25.340 not uh i think the persians understand where the heat's coming from captain finnell you are a

00:43:32.700 obsessed with keep the main thing the main thing lara loomer here has done that uh with jensen

00:43:39.880 long and all that happened to remember we held up air force one in alaska in a refueling stop

00:43:46.300 because jensen realized he was not on the first cut of guys going to uh pay homage to she the

00:43:54.000 business community to kowtow uh he wanted to be on there had to be on there they held the plane

00:43:58.960 he got there and flew over on air force one um your thoughts on what laura loomer has laid out

00:44:04.940 for the nation, sir? Well, Steve, the fact that he would be appointed to this board at Tsinghua

00:44:12.780 University, which is their premier university where Xi Jinping graduated from and Hu Xintao,

00:44:19.400 the previous paramount leader, combined that with the fact that Jensen Wang is also on the

00:44:26.700 U.S. President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology reminds me of a Bible verse from

00:44:34.260 Matthew 6, 24, where it says, no man can serve two masters for either he will hate the one

00:44:40.960 and love the other, or else he will hold to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God

00:44:46.840 and mammon. And it seems to me that's the situation that we are obviously facing is that Jensen Wong

00:44:52.400 has loyalties to one or the other. And given everything that you've stated previously and

00:44:57.440 Brad has stated, it seems pretty clear where his loyalties lie. And so it seems to me that the

00:45:03.720 president's got to make a decision about keeping jensen wong on his uh president hang on hang on

00:45:10.660 hang on hang on hang on i i want to go i want to go to that because at the end and people i need

00:45:17.000 this uh pushed out so people read this because it's quite detailed but the end laura loomer says

00:45:23.920 um jensen wong's got to pick a lane right and she goes through the case of what he's doing for the

00:45:29.860 Chinese Communist Party and his kind of phony involvement with us, he's got to pick a lane.

00:45:36.100 Do you buy her thesis or do you have a different thesis, at least about what should be the

00:45:41.500 choosing here, sir? Well, when I pushed out her memo to my group, I said, she said, Jensen

00:45:48.420 Wong must choose a lane. And I said, no, President Trump must decide. He cannot claim to care about

00:45:54.120 America while also allowing Jensen Wong on the U.S. Council of Advisors on Science and Technology. 0.99

00:46:01.140 She also said that this was an insane circumstance, and I agree with her in one sense,

00:46:06.280 but in another sense, it's not insane. And as Brad alluded to, this is a very well-planned and

00:46:10.840 executed effort by the Chinese Communist Party that's been going on for 50 years. It's the

00:46:16.000 natural conclusion of a policy of unconstrained and unaccountable engagement. Hang on one side,

00:46:24.120 When we talk about the president, Jensen Wong is the chairman, CEO and the founder of a company that's made some pretty big bets in the past and prove it.

00:46:32.240 These bets have been proven right. The market capitalization of the company is over five trillion dollars.

00:46:39.340 Jensen Wong is, I think, even more than Elon Musk, probably, if not the most powerful person in the world.

00:46:47.320 not run not you know president xi or chairman xi and president trump excluded is in the top five

00:46:54.420 so when you say that president trump who has to balance a lot has a ceo that's that's head of a

00:47:01.720 five trillion dollar company that is quite frankly because advanced chip design folks

00:47:07.180 is both in science and an art it's a science and an art and they have to at least today

00:47:14.920 perfected the model outside of Taiwan in the manufacture of these chips, correct?

00:47:19.620 So it's a very tough call for the president.

00:47:23.680 Wouldn't you agree?

00:47:25.820 I don't think it's a tough call because he has access on this presidential council of

00:47:31.380 advisors to classified data.

00:47:34.220 He's seen things in classified forums and learning about American technology, and then

00:47:39.940 he goes over to China and he can now share those concepts and pressure points on where they can get

00:47:46.000 that technology. I'm not saying he's a spy, but just by the fact that he has access to our data

00:47:51.240 and our science and technology in the latest and greatest. And we see the reflections in that.

00:47:56.920 20 years ago, the Chinese didn't have the biggest Navy in the world. They didn't have

00:48:01.200 aircraft carriers with electromagnetic aircraft launch systems. Now they do. They didn't have

00:48:06.440 hypersonic missiles. Now they do. They didn't have a J-35 stealth fighter like our F-35. Now

00:48:13.620 they do. I could go down a list of things that they have, that they've acquired, and it comes

00:48:19.320 from various sources, from their Ministry of State Security, their CIA, but it's also from these

00:48:24.960 kind of engagement arrangements. And so the president has to make a decision. And oh, by the

00:48:30.540 way, when Jensen Wong yesterday announced that he was going to bump up investment in Taiwan from

00:48:36.400 the $100 billion a year that he gives, which was only five years ago, is only $10 billion.

00:48:41.280 Now it's going to be $150 billion. That goes 180 degrees out against what President Trump said

00:48:48.200 about after he came out of China and he did some of his interviews. And he said, I think the Taiwan

00:48:53.560 semiconductor industry should get wise and move out of Taiwan and move their manufacturing

00:48:59.520 to the United States. So he's working against the president's own agenda. And I'm sure the

00:49:05.240 president understands that and i don't mean to put him on on the spot but at some point you have

00:49:09.820 to make a line in the sand on some of these issues no the president said because he's concerned

00:49:15.040 obviously the defense of taiwan he said hey and there's a program to move that manufacturing to

00:49:20.480 arizona and to utah into places in ohio i would just tell people that doesn't go by just a snap

00:49:26.560 of the finger because it's both an art and a science the moving of these plants is going to

00:49:31.560 be quite complicated. Anyway, we're going to get to all that. Thayer's going to stick around.

00:49:35.060 Captain Fennell's going to stick around. Joe Allen's with us. We're going to go through all

00:49:40.120 of this. Now, Jensen Wong, I think, is an agent of influence. He's always pitching the Chinese

00:49:46.400 side about how it doesn't matter who wins artificial intelligence. It doesn't matter

00:49:50.960 what companies are the victors. But he wants unlimited. He's always bugging people. He wants

00:49:58.020 unlimited ability to sell them the most advanced ships and to train them up.

00:50:01.560 You can't do that.

00:50:03.000 If this is a real competition, it's a real war, shut them down.

00:50:06.100 We didn't give, the Russians stole the secrets. 0.89

00:50:08.540 We didn't give them the secrets because they were going to be, the Soviets were going to 0.90

00:50:12.580 be a partner. 0.77

00:50:13.360 They were not. 0.81

00:50:14.760 They, the Soviets, the Bolsheviks, were a mortal enemy of the United States of America 0.86

00:50:19.820 in the West. 0.94

00:50:20.960 Short break.

Bannon's War Room - May 28, 2026

Episode 5404： Deal Or No Deal With Iran; The Elites Are In Bed With The CCP

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