00:03:01.340And, of course, then coming out of that was going to be an executive order.
00:03:06.280right and that executive order was going to uh for the first time actually in the executive order
00:03:11.900it was going to set in a structure some sort of rudimentary structure and a process and what it0.71
00:03:17.720was basically going to say you these models have to be checked so of course the oligarchs want to
00:03:23.140it's got to be it's a voluntary system and we get it to you a week beforehand or 12 days beforehand
00:03:27.640and you have no say so well we're just we're voluntary we're sending it to you and then we're
00:03:31.940going to release it we took the fact it's got to be mandatory it has to be 90 days or more and
00:03:38.080people like nsa have to be involved in the treasury secretary who's taking a kind of a leading role
00:03:43.680here as an adult in the room on safety has to be involved too because he's worried about the
00:03:48.460financial structure of the country and then we had you had worked on other people we know the
00:03:53.400amy kramers and all these coalitions there's four or five of these coalition groups and we have the
00:03:57.480leaders on all the time to talk people were working it we sent out a letter which i signed
00:04:02.460that laid out kind of here's what we think is the de minimis and you know it's got to be
00:04:06.600mandatory it has to be a some approval process and you got to give enough time to do it or the
00:04:11.540thing doesn't get released so and sax is in the middle of this and he's negotiating it and then
00:04:16.140of course at the last second we we sat we have um we have um mccabe at the white house that day
00:04:23.900And they've laid out a 330 signing of this and talked about it.
00:04:28.160And I think the president invited Elon Musk and Zuckerberg and others to come.
00:04:33.560And when they awaken to the fact that it's a process and Scott Besson's involved, even though it's voluntary, all of a sudden this thing evaporated and it's got put on hold.
00:04:43.940And Politico has done a very good detail of what that process was and then talked about in the future.
00:04:51.700Why is this such a burning issue behind the scenes?
00:04:54.620This is one of the biggest issues people are working on in D.C.
00:04:57.720Why is this about these type of models now has it's a pitch battle?
00:05:03.300All the forces, all the forces on both sides.
00:05:06.060I mean, you've got moratoriums and data centers.
00:05:09.860All these things are important and big.
00:05:11.460And people are kind of fighting that and back and forth at different levels.
00:05:14.620And now Laura Loomers jumped in, I think, with this spectacular tweet last night to really raise up this question about the
00:05:20.860Chinese Communist Party and what their intents are and who's really working for them. But in this
00:05:25.080issue, this is intense. Why is the intensity around this issue? And why is this a fight
00:05:30.540that we, quite frankly, have to win? There's a lot of reasons for that, Steve. You know,
00:05:36.360it's amazing that even a year ago, a year and a half ago, people would talk about AI as if it were
00:05:41.880just vaporware. It was meaningless. It would just be a fad that would come and go. Obviously,
00:05:47.400that was ridiculous as we said it was then. You know, on the surface, the importance of0.87
00:05:54.560artificial intelligence is in that word, right? On the surface, it's intelligence. But basically
00:06:00.340baked into the notion of intelligence, you have a lot of different things. You have surveillance,
00:06:04.520you have data analysis, you have the production of culture, and then you have the real key elements.
00:06:11.060You have power and you have money. And as these companies explode in value, as the product itself is being distributed across society and as people interact with them, the power that these systems have, not just the ability to write emails really fast or produce images really quickly,
00:06:34.540But the power of keeping people hypnotized, to have companies dependent on you and to have the U.S. military dependent on you, it's extraordinary.
00:06:45.720And you can see it bubbling up everywhere.
00:06:47.340You can see it in the tension between the Department of War and Anthropic.
00:06:50.300You can see it in the attempt to mitigate the possible destruction that would be wrought on digital infrastructure if a system like Mythos were to get into the wrong hands.
00:07:01.220And you, of course, now have the pope, perhaps the most important global religious leader, weighing in and setting out the guidelines for the laity, for the bishops, for the priests, but for the laity, the 1.4 billion strong laity across the planet and any other religious people and secular people who take inspiration from it.
00:07:25.520So, yeah, I mean, at the heart of it, though, Steve, I can't emphasize enough, you know, they talk about it in terms of intelligence.
00:07:31.720This is something that will grow scientific knowledge.
00:07:34.440This is something that will allow people to heal, you know, allow doctors to come to better diagnoses and better therapies, all of that.
00:07:41.660But the way I see it, and I think it's pretty obvious in the behaviors of the tech CEOs and everyone trying to glom onto this,
00:07:49.120At the core of all of this, everything we talk about with AI is the desire for more power and for more money.
00:07:58.240Mammon, along those lines on this executive order, you've read all the political, you know the inside baseball.
00:08:04.340Because first off, the tech bros, the brolegarks were like not to have any.
00:08:08.180I mean, when they realized, when Musk and these guys, Zuckerberg, realized there was actually something in writing, they go, what are you talking about?
00:08:15.400We don't want to put anything in writing.
00:08:17.680We wanted something in writing when it was preemption or amnesty.
00:08:21.760When you actually lay out a structure and process, they went ballistic.
00:08:26.580Do you think on this most all-important topic we're actually going to get to some sort of structure and process?
00:08:33.960Eventually. It's not going to happen anytime soon.
00:08:36.380I mean we've been talking about this supposed federal—
00:08:38.780Well, if it doesn't happen anytime soon, that's a major defeat for us and a huge victory for the accelerationists, is it not?0.83
00:08:44.280I fear that I don't think there's any possible reason you could say that the American people
00:08:50.620should be patient. The American people are, I think, have lost patience long ago. But I do
00:08:56.640think that the process to get an actual national framework for artificial intelligence or even
00:09:02.280national level legislation that's meaningful, anything from, say, the Guard Act to even
00:09:08.540enforcing something like take it down, which did pass. I think that the state level, as I've said
00:09:14.480before, I think the state level is going to be the most immediate response. The municipal level,
00:09:18.940in the case of, say, data centers or AI and education, that is going to be the most immediate
00:09:23.280response. But I do also think that our eyes have to be on the end goal, which is some kind of
00:09:29.920national policy. You know, on the EO, the story in Politico from Sophia Chai, if I'm pronouncing
00:09:37.560it correctly um you know she has uncovered the the backstory to all this i'm not so sure i'm not
00:09:44.840so sure how much she uncovered or it was spoon-fed to her really well yeah of course yeah
00:09:51.040sources say sources say i'm still trying to teach joe the ways of washington that story is so0.99
00:09:57.660detailed yeah that was literally she was taking dick i'm not saying she's not a good reporter0.91
00:10:01.580sure they went to her somebody that was dictation because that was so detailed on what happened and0.99
00:10:06.800And you haven't seen anybody come out and say, no, that's a bald face lie.
00:10:10.640One way or the other, I would be very curious.
00:10:12.260What she claims is that as early as February, the beginnings of this EO were already formed.
00:10:20.160So you already had this concern around cybersecurity.
00:10:23.320And then what we eventually saw, I mean, basically what she talks about is how it was passed around and deliberated upon by a number of different, not just people within the administration,
00:10:34.040but she breaks it up into three camps within the administration.
00:10:37.300You know, she says that, as we've reported for months, for over a year, actually,
00:10:41.960you've got the David Sachs and the accelerationists,
00:10:44.900and then you have Pete Hegseth, who apparently has had a lot of concerns
00:10:49.800about the national security issues, especially mythos and cybersecurity,
00:10:54.240and then, of course, Susie Wiles and Scott Besant
00:10:57.440and their concerns around cybersecurity, but also as it relates to financial institutions.
00:11:04.040But the thing is, is one of the things that doesn't surprise me necessarily, but certainly I did not know, was that they also brought in OpenAI, Anthropic, and also Google to discuss all of this,
00:11:19.420which would also explain why you would see OpenAI advocating for Casey, the Center for AI Standards and Innovation, to be one of the central components in any kind of AI regulation.
00:11:32.640But the thing is, I mean, what you see there, I mean, you see months of deliberation just nuked from orbit.
00:11:39.720Why? Apparently, because even a voluntary review system, a 90 day voluntary review system would be too much for the AI companies to handle.
00:11:52.120That would, at least according to the arguments against the EO, put America behind China.
00:11:57.660I mean, I don't believe that for a second. And as we've talked about so many times, I think China is held up as a kind of boogeyman, as a foil in order to justify American acceleration.
00:12:07.240If they really cared about it, Jensen Wang would not be on the board of a Chinese university if they really cared about it.
00:12:13.720She exposed the fact that we can get it from Kevin Fennell's broken down the board and the guys dealing with China.
00:12:21.420It's on our board. It's 100 percent. What Loomer did was expose the lie.
00:12:25.180Right. That if you were really concerned about the Chinese Communist Party being competitive here, you wouldn't have Jensen Wong and all these other guys at there, which is a combination of MIT and Harvard and Stanford, that university that trains all the leaders, but also the top the top guys.
00:12:41.940although they have other great technology schools, you wouldn't have them there driving
00:12:45.960national policy. It just exposes the total lie that the Burligarchs feed to make sure that there1.00
00:12:52.780is no controls and not even a rudimentary type of regulatory apparatus around here.1.00
00:12:57.880Yeah. And I also think that, I mean, aside again, you've got Jensen Wong, you've got Elon Musk,
00:13:02.320and you've got Tim Cook, who are deeply embedded in China. Obviously, they're not going to say the
00:13:07.540wrong things or do the wrong things to infuriate on tim apple on tim apple don't take it from me
00:13:12.300the book the most damning document i've read about apple is the book apple in china the guy
00:13:17.300came investigative reporter put a book out about a year ago i just want to we're going to go to
00:13:21.320break we're gonna come back dr thayer and captain finnell still with us i just remember you were in
00:13:27.560this very room in um january 2023 it's just been a little over three years ago that chad gpt was
00:13:35.900announced at davos yeah and at the time i said oh my god when davos man and all these venture
00:13:42.000capitalists uh because it was there it was like um it was like a ceremony around ball uh you know
00:13:48.500about the the the evil god right they're just sitting there the golden calf they're they're
00:13:52.700they're davos man who bowed down to she back in 2017 when he went and talked on his networking
00:13:58.860talk i say that the speeches she gate went to davos for the only time in uh 2017 and two days
00:14:05.700before president trump gave his first inaugural address those two speeches kind of lay out the two
00:14:11.920basic constructs of the world president trump laying out a defense of the westphalian system
00:14:16.640in the american carnage speech and of course she talking about the networks and really very much
00:14:22.680into the techno-fascist feudalism of the oligarchs to cut to 2023 january it's only been a little
00:14:30.400over three years, folks, this has turned the business model of the United States of America
00:14:36.100into a highly leveraged bet on artificial intelligence and artificial intelligence
00:14:41.280productivity without mass layoffs. Don't know if I would make that bet. Okay, I think I don't know
00:14:48.780if I'd make that bet. Short commercial break. Joe Allen in the house in the war room.
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00:16:35.480We're going to do the true Texas project with some of the grassroots leaders.
00:16:39.960I'm going to move that till tonight because I want to spend some more time with them about this grassroots victory in the meaning of it on Capitol Hill.
00:16:47.220We'll get into that also. There's got to be a showdown right now with the Senate.
00:16:51.700These people are under under this impression that you can just do business as usual with the Senate and you're going to hold the Senate.
00:16:57.980It's just not going to work like that. I can tell you.
00:17:00.280I've looked at the numbers of some of these states in North Carolina, in Georgia, in Maine.0.76
00:17:05.000There has to be some resolution of the Senate treating President Trump as a lame duck.
00:17:13.700If you want to get the grassroots, and that's the lesson of the victory, two victories, the redistricting project and the Texas victory, and also, of course, the Sharia law, all three of those are all because of grassroots fire and action and dedication.
00:17:30.700And we're within, if you look at the Cook Report, we're very close to being able to hold serve in the House through grassroots action.
00:17:38.800It's not the same in the Senate. And that's going to have to come from some resolution of what's up here on Capitol Hill.
00:17:45.960But you just can't. If you're going to go through the process between now and November and you're just going to treat President Trump as a lame duck, that's not going to work.
00:17:54.620You're going to lose the Senate full stop. And we're going to win in Texas.
00:17:59.260We're going to beat Tallarico by five plus, and I'll get into that this evening, too.
00:18:04.480And we'll talk to the True Texas Project. Colby, you're here talking about data.
00:18:09.740You've used data to get into. Just first explain. You're the founder of Chapter.
00:18:14.780Explain why is Medicare so complicated? Why is you use a great example of the guy at Stanford that it's like he's a Ph.D.
00:18:23.760in this topic on medical economics, and he says he can't understand it. Is it so confusing because
00:18:32.260that's an act of commission or omission? Is it just because the system is kind of jerry-rigged
00:18:37.200and put together, or is it done on purpose? Thanks for having me, Steve. It's a bit of both,
00:18:43.000frankly. The more pernicious component, though, is certainly that Medicare brokers, Medicare
00:18:49.480advisors are paid a lot more by certain insurance carriers and for certain types of plans.
00:18:54.860And so most Medicare advisors will push those plans that pay them more. And that really distorts
00:19:00.260the market and makes it really hard for people to get clear, accurate communication and information.
00:19:05.520Of course, the system has been built up over decades. So there is just natural new regulations
00:19:11.900that come out every year, a lot of different government programs that have been created over
00:19:16.080time. So of course, there is that element of it. But it is such a complicated system. As I was
00:19:21.780alluding to a couple episodes ago, there's a PhD, Stanford professor of health economics who can't
00:19:28.900figure out Medicare. He was joking about that on his podcast about the American healthcare system.
00:19:33.820So it really is just such a challenging system. And that's why most Americans rely on some type
00:19:37.900of expert Medicare guidance. But the system really is stacked against the individual.
00:19:43.680So given that a stack against the individual, why are you guys different than all these other brokers or advisors that are out there?
00:19:53.800What does Chapter do that's different?
00:19:56.580I started the company after seeing my parents go through the Medicare process and wanted to get them a much better experience.
00:20:03.200We really do three things that are different from anyone else.
00:20:05.660One is we look at every single Medicare option in the country and recommend the right one for each person, full stop.
00:20:11.260It does not matter if we get paid on that plan. It does not matter what we get paid on that plan. We will still enroll someone in a Medicare plan, even if we earn no money. And that's a very sincerely and serious promise that we make to all people that we work with.
00:20:27.200and we're the only Medicare advisor that has full access to all plans and will do the right thing
00:20:32.160for consumers in every single situation. The second thing we do is we build a lot of technology to
00:20:36.800make the actual product experience and the paperwork much easier and more pleasant. We want
00:20:42.360to take it from, oh, Medicare's a really annoying, terrible experience to, oh, that was actually quite
00:20:46.900delightful. I actually feel good. So really removing all the anxiety. And then third is we
00:20:51.780provide really good ongoing support. So if you need to find a doctor who's in network or you need to
00:20:57.040get a prescription at a lower cost or you have a question about your bill. We'll help with all of
00:21:01.860that at no cost. And how do people, you're offering this up to the Warren Posse. It's
00:21:09.780no charge, no obligation, all of that. And that's why I'm advocating. I'm trying to get you on as
00:21:15.000much as possible for people to use this service. How do they do it right now? How do people say,
00:21:20.120hey, look, I heard Colby. I'm in the same shape as mom's in. So how does this audience take
00:21:26.000advantage of what you've offered up at 845 War Room. You've got a special line just for the
00:21:30.940War Room posse, 845 War Room. How do people take advantage of that and what do they do?
00:21:35.280That's right. Call 845 War Room. You'll be connected with one of our expert Medicare
00:21:39.280advisors. They will answer any questions you have, walk you through the process. If there's
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00:21:47.820sign up for that plan. If you're already on the right plan, they'll give you that peace of mind
00:21:51.240that you're already on the right plan, you shouldn't make a change. And they'll help you
00:21:54.780with any other Medicare-related question you have.
00:21:57.700It's free, no obligation, very simple.
00:22:00.440And the reviews that we've been getting
00:22:01.920from the Posse have just been tremendous.
00:22:03.680We've been able to help hundreds of people each week,
00:22:49.860The real importance isn't necessarily going to be regarding Catholic doctrine, I don't think, at least not from my perspective.
00:22:58.860I'm not a Catholic, so my priest won't be telling me about artificial intelligence.
00:23:03.800But I think that as this message does suffuse through the Catholic Church, as it moves through the organization and as it inspires other religious leaders to either take up the same position the pope has,
00:23:15.960which is to put up barriers against the technology and guide people to at least be suspicious of it,
00:23:21.900or they'll argue against it one way or the other.
00:23:24.540This conversation has now moved to the religious world in a way that it simply never had before.
00:23:30.800Well, Elon Musk is moving it to the religious world, is he not?
00:23:38.680You know, people look to Elon Musk as a kind of cyborg savior,
00:23:41.420And you've had him talk about a lot of different things from the simulation theory that the entire cosmos is the product of a cosmic computer programmer to, you know, wearing the satanic armor at the Halloween ball some years ago.
00:23:57.500but just the other day, it was May 18th, I believe, he was speaking to an Israeli summit
00:24:03.180via Zoom, and he described Neuralink, right, the ability to allow the blind to see and the lame to
00:24:14.320walk. He described Neuralink as a Jesus-like technology, a miracle of science. Now, you would
00:24:22.560think, well, was that just an offhand comment? But then a few days later, uh, he tweeted out
00:24:27.080the same thing, you know, that these are Jesus level technologies. Now it may be a joke to him.
00:24:34.120It may not, but I think that it's really important to see that mentality, that religion of technology,
00:24:40.000the idea that what these people are doing in creating artificial intelligence and robots
00:24:44.960and brain interfaces and genetic engineering and all of this, that like at the core of that
00:24:51.140is a religious impulse in which they believe that scientists are, in fact, the new priests,
00:24:57.680that AI programmers and AI CEOs are, in fact, the new priests. And in a godless cosmos,
00:25:04.280the only recourse, the only option you have is to try to either turn yourself into a god or to
00:25:12.260create god. And it would seem that Elon Musk, even if Grok is really floundering behind the
00:25:18.460other AI models, Elon Musk seems to have at least a touch of that Christ complex.
00:25:24.880And how does the Pope counter that in this encyclical? Give me a minute on that.
00:25:28.480I mean, one thing that really stuck out about this thing is the encyclical names transhumanism
00:25:35.460and post-humanism. I think that's also really important that these words are now, they were
00:25:40.040already becoming very popular, but I think they're now solidified in the lexicon. And he's very
00:25:44.820careful to say that they capture a lot of different beliefs, but at the core of what he's
00:25:50.960calling transhumanism is the idea that technology can be used for some form of salvation, a Jesus
00:25:57.260like or a Jesus level technology. He also, and I think this is, this is what I'm writing about.
00:26:04.340The piece should be up any minute now, hot off the presses, but he denies that artificial
00:26:10.440intelligence could be conscious. He says the AIs are not in fact conscious, but they are
00:26:17.600just simply mechanisms. They're just machines. What I actually, I'm not so sure he's correct
00:26:24.800about that. But one thing is for sure, as you look around at the reaction to that, of all the
00:26:30.260different things that people are freaking out about, you look at, you've got Grimes, Elon Musk's
00:26:34.660baby mama coming out saying, no, uh, the AIs are conscious. You have my friend, uh, Sam Hammond
00:26:40.920just put up an excellent piece in an argument for why he believes the AIs are conscious. You have
00:26:46.840Rune from open AI talking about AI's consciousness. You believe that I don't have a belief on it,
00:26:54.800but I would say that if it was, if it was, if it was a million dollars or maybe you cut your
00:26:59.780don't kill me a cassie i don't want to know a probability i suspect that something is looking
00:27:05.040back at us we'll get look into those screens the the evidence is obviously okay before you go0.80
00:27:10.280are you are you now with me on mark 3 8 right about this is the unforgivable sin this is the
00:27:18.360mortal sin because you're trying to you're trying to replace god in the holy spirit and christ saw
00:27:22.940this 2 000 years ago i'm gonna have to pray and meditate on it okay fine that's okay we have our
00:27:29.220ways of, you know, bringing the conversation along. I'll get to you eventually where people
00:27:33.340get this very important. You're the one of the more important pieces you've written in all your
00:27:36.840pieces. Pieces are very important, but this is something special. It's a little long and it's
00:27:41.160definitely going to make a lot of people mad. You can find it in about 20 minutes on jobot.xyz. So
00:27:48.800sign up, subscribe, or check back in just a few minutes. Thank you for your patience.
00:28:40.380And what I'll try to do, I'm going to contact Eric Bowling, who's all over this right now.
00:28:43.660Maybe if I get organized in the 5 o'clock show,
00:28:46.080and we're going to have the founders of the True Texas Project, some of the grassroots,
00:28:49.580the larger lessons of the grassroots, massive grassroots victory in Texas.
00:28:53.900to walk through the the nuts and bolts of it um hopefully i'll do a transition on the bowling
00:29:00.320show and then lead that into the five o'clock war room uh we'll talk about the deal um
00:29:05.700dr bradley thayer memory serves me correctly you and captain finnell wrote an amazing book
00:29:13.020for war room publishing we put out a couple years ago that kind of talked about this problem
00:29:17.640about how the elites in this country have always had their default position is always to promote
00:29:24.440the Chinese Communist Party. In this very specific instance where Laura Loomer's done a great job of
00:29:31.380going out for one of the most powerful men in the world, if not the most powerful non-head of
00:29:36.520government in the world and the head of a five trillion dollar market cap company. Your thoughts,
00:29:42.380How do we get our arms around this? And what actions are you recommending immediately we do to stop?
00:29:49.980If the proligarchs are so concerned about China, it's not the solution is not pure acceleration for them.
00:29:57.240Step one is to shut down any possibility the Chinese Communist Party has of building an ecosystem where they can compete with us on artificial intelligence.
00:30:07.560Dr. Thayer. Absolutely, Stephen. Thanks for calling attention to the book that Jim and I0.93
00:30:12.120wrote, Embracing Communist China, America's Greatest Strategic Failure, where we go through
00:30:17.180and document the fact that the engagement policy that the U.S. has advanced was really generated
00:30:26.060by Deng Xiaoping. The Chinese Communist Party did a masterstroke in political warfare to buy off our
00:30:33.180elites and make them partners of the Chinese Communist Party. And we're seeing the fruits0.97
00:30:37.900of that today with Jensen Wong and Laura Loomer's great attention. So three things quickly. First,
00:30:44.260the scope of the problem. This is going to be fatal if we don't address it. Secondly, time.
00:30:49.220It has to be addressed now. That is, today, this has to get started. Getting Jensen Wong off of
00:30:56.500President Trump's advisory board is a great place to start, but only the place to start
00:33:21.440In all your theories, no elite ever made more money and created more wealth for themselves on the way down of the declining power, right, than on the way up.
00:33:33.040And he was like, well, we never thought of that.
00:33:35.240Or I go, well, you should think of it because this is the situation we're in.
00:33:38.500What's the obsession with the financial business and cultural elite in the United States of America, this great republic, the greatest nation in the history of the earth?
00:33:54.920What is it in the psyche of these guys, sir?
00:33:59.200Well, Steve, I first encountered this 20 years ago.
00:34:04.020I had been in the fleet, sailor, naval intelligence out in the fleet in the Pacific for 20 years before I had my first tour in Washington, D.C.
00:34:12.340And I remember running into somebody in the Pentagon that I had been a shipmate with when I was an ensign.
00:34:17.820And he was a senior executive service member. And he said, you've got to calm down, Jim. This this is inevitable. China is going to be the next global superpower. And we're not. And so we've got to manage our decline. So there's some some of that into this. There's also as we.
00:34:35.140Hold on, hold on, hold on. Full stop, full stop, full, full, full, full, full stop, full stop.
00:34:41.260Actually, a naval officer, because it was that imbued into the system, a naval officer said that, that it's about managed to climb?
00:34:50.120He had been a naval officer for 20 years, and then he was a senior executive service civilian at that point, so a flag officer civilian.
00:34:57.560And he was a good guy, and I knew him, and he knew all about, he was an intel type, and he knew all the same data that I knew, but he was resigned, and that's the general atmosphere in the building 20 years ago.
00:35:10.640So we went through decades of people accepting, well, first they said there was no threat 30 years ago, telling us there's no threat, and then it became around 2000.
00:35:20.920And, well, yeah, there's a threat that's coming. And it was imbued with, you know, these exchange organizations that we have in the United States. I won't name names, but there's eight, there's, there's think tanks and there's groups that are sponsored by the Chinese indirectly.
00:35:36.000and they get influenced into the Pentagon, into the State Department, and tell us that we have
00:35:42.440to exchange. Just today in Global Daily, Xi sent a letter to the Global Daily, replies to the letter
00:35:48.960from Chinese and U.S. students participating in the Shared Voyage China-U.S. Youth Friendship
00:35:54.720Program. It was started in 2023. It was supposed to be a five-year program to get 50,000 American
00:36:00.760students to go over to China to be indoctrinated. They didn't say indoctrinated. Well, guess what?
00:36:06.000They did it in two and a half years from 2023 to 2025.
00:36:09.780They were able to get 50,000 American students over there.
00:36:43.140Jim, this was still when you were in short pants.
00:36:45.180That's how young you are compared to me.
00:36:47.680But Jim, you know, when I got back to the Pentagon, I came back to be one of the aides to the OPPO-90, the CNO, and his right-hand flag officer.
00:36:58.820And what shocked me is that everything we did was about Russia.
00:37:02.020Everything we've done, Soviet Union, the Russian Navy, and we'd seen the Russian Navy out in, you know, the North Arabian Sea and the Persian Gulf.
00:37:09.540And I'm sitting there going, man, Asia is so dynamic.
00:37:12.900And at that time, the Chinese Navy, as you remember, in the late 70s, the moral equivalent of just junks and sandpacks.
00:39:25.040We have surrendered intellectually to this notion that the Chinese Communist Party has some inevitability to be the next global power.0.71
00:39:35.480And that's only because, as you said, we surrender that right.0.81
00:39:38.860That doesn't mean we have to be domineering and everything, but we cannot accede to a system like the Chinese Communist Party, which wants to collectivize the world, put us under some kind of AI system, and completely make us devoid of human individual liberty and freedom and autonomy and responsibility.0.84
00:39:59.680They want to control us. And it's scary to me. And coming from the fleet like you did, you come back and you run into this, what's going on? Nobody's talking about it. And so that was 20 years ago. People are talking about it now. I think that things have changed. But the real issue is, what are we going to do about it?0.89
00:40:20.480The actions that need to be taken can't be one degree here, one degree there. These are the kind of action and decisions that came to guys like Carl Vinson in the late 30s with the Navy Ocean Act, the Two Ocean Navy Act in 1940.
00:40:39.180We have to do something significant to prepare ourselves for what's coming.
00:40:44.800And it's coming across not just naval issues, it's across the board.
00:40:48.220You're talking about AI, you can talk about cyber, you can talk about economics, you can
00:40:53.100talk about bioweapons and medical, pharmaceuticals, you can talk about rare earth elements, you
00:41:00.260Across the board, they're preparing to attack us.
00:41:04.280And they don't want to have to do it kinetically.
00:41:07.240They'd rather have us just put us in a sleeper lock and let us just pass out and they get to have everything.
00:41:12.740But we shouldn't allow that to happen because the future will not be a future that will be very pleasant.0.93
00:41:19.080And as you pointed out earlier in the show, millions of people have died as a result of the kinds of leadership that the Chinese Communist Party will be willing to inflict on people.0.86
00:41:30.960OK, hang on for a second, Jim. I just want to hold you through the break.0.89
00:43:55.600Where do people go to get all your writing, sir?
00:43:57.360yes steve uh i write annual review of the pla navy for u.s naval institute proceedings
00:44:04.940this last one is called going nuclear getting bigger going beyond and then i occasionally
00:44:11.080write for american greatness i've been kind of off the net for a while a bit since this epic
00:44:15.900fury started but uh try to get my fingers in those two publications oh american greatness
00:44:22.820This is the one that had the hit piece on Stephen K. Bannon because he says, oh, he's thwarting President Trump's smart industrial policy of the guys around him about working with the Chinese Communist Party.
00:44:33.420No, American greatness. You can put out all the hit pieces you want. We're not going to get off this, that the Chinese Communist Party is the central enemy of the Chinese people of Lao Beijing and the American people.
00:44:45.440And no, we should not have any cooperation.0.86
00:44:47.800It should be total and complete decoupling and bring the Chinese Communist Party to its knees and allow Beijing do the rest.0.92
00:44:56.280Captain Fennell, thank you so much. Appreciate you spend the morning with us.0.93
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