Bannon's War Room - May 28, 2026


Episode 5406： Forcing Senate To Finish The Trump Agenda


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Cornyn's 28-point loss to Democratic challenger Kate Baldwin was the worst for a Republican in a primary since at least World War II. It was also the worst primary result for a GOP senator since George W. Bush in 2002.

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00:00:00.000 How historic was Cornyn's loss?
00:00:01.600 I feel like we're on The Tonight Show.
00:00:03.340 How historic was it?
00:00:04.420 How low do we go?
00:00:05.980 It was historic to a degree that we have not seen since my mother was born.
00:00:11.680 And I'm not going to give the exact age, but you'll be able to figure it out.
00:00:14.480 Because just take a look here.
00:00:15.760 Okay, the worst GOP senator primary lost by the margin.
00:00:19.400 The worst ever for Republican senator.
00:00:21.240 It now belongs to John Cornyn.
00:00:23.820 His 28-point loss on Tuesday night was the worst.
00:00:28.080 The worst since at least World War II for a Republican senator.
00:00:32.900 We have seen this over and over and over again.
00:00:35.680 When a Republican goes up against Donald Trump or Donald Trump really goes up against them,
00:00:41.620 it doesn't end too well for that Republican senator.
00:00:44.560 We saw it just a few weeks ago with Bill Cassidy getting, what, just 25% of the vote,
00:00:49.220 which was the lowest vote share total for any senator, incumbent senator.
00:00:53.060 And now when looking at the margin, again, breaking history, the 28 point loss for John Cornyn, the worst for a Republican center since at least World War II, Kate Baldwin.
00:01:03.640 That is how historic it was.
00:01:05.640 That is. Yeah, that fits into historic.
00:01:09.420 So Cornyn, Cornyn is kind of, if you were to say, like a Bush era, Texas Republican.
00:01:15.720 How much has the party shifted from from the Bush era, if you will, since Trump has come into the.
00:01:22.000 Yeah. I mean, look, John Cornyn was first elected back in 2002. And I will just tell you that the George W. Bush era of the Republican Party is simply put, it is dead. It is dead. And this was the capstone to it. And Donald Trump's Republican Party is very much alive. He is the leader of the Republican Party.
00:01:37.200 I just want you to look here.
00:01:38.360 I mean, this just tells you everything that you need to know,
00:01:41.100 which is the net favorable rating with the GOP.
00:01:43.000 You have Donald Trump.
00:01:43.620 You have George W. Bush.
00:01:44.520 Before Donald Trump declared back in May of 2015, look at this.
00:01:47.340 George W. Bush's net favorable rating was plus 58 points.
00:01:50.240 Donald Trump was 45 points underwater with Republicans.
00:01:53.800 Look at this.
00:01:54.420 This is an over 100-point shift, I do believe.
00:01:57.720 Donald Trump is now at plus 61.
00:01:59.480 That's an over 100-point shift in the positive direction for Trump.
00:02:02.500 And look at what happened to George W. Bush.
00:02:04.040 He dropped by 40 points from plus 58 to plus 17.
00:02:07.680 So George W. Bush has fallen through the floor since Donald Trump, of course, first really appeared on the political scene,
00:02:13.360 first ran for president for the Republican nomination back in 2015, declaring in June of 2015,
00:02:18.460 while George W. Bush simply put, as I said, his Republican Party is dead.
00:02:23.000 Republican voters are very lukewarm on him, and Republican voters are still very hot to trot on Donald Trump.
00:02:28.540 And you saw that in George W. Bush's home state of Texas on Tuesday night with John Cornyn, of course, a Bush-era Republican going down to a historic defeat.
00:02:38.120 The bottom line is that Donald Trump, it's his party across the political map, even in George W. Bush's backyard.
00:02:43.880 One thing you see in the numbers, one thing we heard from voters on the actual day, on election day there, was that they're going with Trump.
00:02:52.420 Trump had accused Cornyn of not being loyal enough, and they were going with Trump when they were going to be supporting Paxton.
00:02:59.860 That begs the question of how loyal do Republican voters want their electeds to be to President Trump?
00:03:06.740 Yeah, I think when you see this over 100-point shift towards Donald Trump, I mean, that's just crazy.
00:03:12.160 But then you just ask the Republican voters, what do they want?
00:03:15.080 What do they want from their members of Congress?
00:03:16.680 GOP voters want congressional GOP to do more to work with Trump, 80 percent, four and five,
00:03:22.100 just 13 percent want him to do more to stand up to Trump. When 80 percent plus of the party is
00:03:26.340 with you on any particular question, you know you own the party. This is, as I said, Donald Trump's
00:03:30.960 Republican Party. And it's George W. Bush has simply put that Republican Party is dead. It's
00:03:35.540 in the graveyard. This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're
00:03:45.860 going to medieval on these people.
00:03:48.580 You're just not going to get a free shot
00:03:49.760 at all these networks lying
00:03:51.140 about the people. The people have had a belly
00:03:53.860 full of it. I know you don't like hearing that.
00:03:56.200 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,
00:03:57.940 but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
00:04:00.140 And where do people like that go to
00:04:01.760 share the big lie? Mega
00:04:03.880 media. I wish
00:04:05.520 in my soul, I wish that any
00:04:07.940 of these people had a conscience.
00:04:10.260 Ask yourself, what is my
00:04:11.920 task and what is my purpose?
00:04:13.460 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:04:20.500 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
00:04:28.580 It's Thursday, 28 May in the year of our Lord, 2026.
00:04:33.340 Of course, the lazy, and let's just call it what it is, dumb, mainstream media, particularly the folks that cover politics, put the geopolitics in there, national security, and the economics, they always seem to draw the lessons that are just so easy and they kick them around and they become a meme.
00:05:00.400 or they become what they want to be, what we call the conventional wisdom. 0.91
00:05:05.780 Ken Paxson was winning by anywhere from 8 to 12 points when President Trump came in.
00:05:10.980 And the power of that was another, you know, he won by almost 30.
00:05:14.620 So that's a huge, huge lift.
00:05:18.100 But it was the grassroots effort, the leaders and all the folks that are part of these grassroots organizations.
00:05:27.200 I cannot speak highly enough about them.
00:05:33.100 And why do I do that?
00:05:34.620 Why do I do that?
00:05:35.560 Because you see a path to hold this together.
00:05:40.900 You see a path to still save your country.
00:05:45.620 And like I said, it's not perfect.
00:05:47.860 Today, Scott Besson, our former contributor here at the War Room,
00:05:53.000 handled the press conference today.
00:05:54.240 And, of course, he was getting peppered nonstop about the deal.
00:05:57.980 The Hill newspaper has now confirmed that there is a deal, but President Trump, like, either hasn't approved it or hasn't signed it.
00:06:04.620 This memorandum of understanding that really kind of extends the ceasefire and it kicks the can down the road.
00:06:10.380 At least with the way Axios or the Hill are reporting it, I don't know.
00:06:16.280 I see some very tough elements of that that I just can't see President Trump agreeing to.
00:06:21.580 Number one, kind of one of the beginning things has to happen.
00:06:25.840 You have to lift the blockade.
00:06:26.960 To me, the blockade is the one, if you're not going to use kinetic activity again,
00:06:31.280 and I just don't feel as much enthusiasm for going kinetic again unless you're forced into a corner,
00:06:38.600 I would strongly recommend that probably lifting the blockade is maybe not the way to go,
00:06:44.120 at least at the very first stages of this.
00:06:45.860 So anyway, we'll have to see.
00:06:46.980 I'm sure President Trump's looking at this thing and going,
00:06:49.780 Hey, there's a couple, three things here I just can't agree to.
00:06:54.340 And that gets back to some of the negative numbers around.
00:06:58.660 This gets back to a sense when they say they changed the Republican Party,
00:07:02.140 we've got to be brutally frank.
00:07:03.400 There's not five, they're not five or six MAGA people in the House.
00:07:09.960 They're not.
00:07:11.040 They don't believe really in these trade policies.
00:07:14.440 Most of them are not for mass deportations.
00:07:16.640 um they're not for the uh hemispheric defense in america first you got tons of neocons in there
00:07:22.900 scratch them and they're they're neocon in the senate you got what you got banks you got
00:07:28.220 bernie marino you got holly you got schmidt i don't know i said banks you know a couple three
00:07:36.940 more get four or five they get four or five they only are with president trump when they need an
00:07:42.120 endorsement. Now, how do I know this? Look at the Senate. The Senate treats President Trump as a
00:07:47.740 lame duck, full stop. There has not been one day, they still go through this charade every time 0.89
00:07:54.340 they're on recess, there's not been one day that the Senate's been officially in recess since Trump
00:08:00.160 took his hand off the Bible on 20 January 2017. What, six, five and a half years now? Not one day
00:08:08.460 because they don't trust him. McConnell said we're never going to do that because Trump could put
00:08:12.060 some recess appointments in there big piece today or big thing on cnn about how we're lacking in
00:08:19.140 ambassadors we're behind again once again on president trump getting people in there it's
00:08:24.320 his own person his own team now that we're a year and a half into this thing and five
00:08:27.820 what five or six months away from the midterm elections they treat him the senate treats him
00:08:34.760 like a lame duck there's no save america act there's no cooperation they'll do the big beautiful
00:08:41.240 bill. When they get a tax cut for their donors, they're all in. You mentioned tax cut for the
00:08:47.700 wealthy. Imagine tax cuts for corporations. They're 100%. They'll be doing heavy lifting.
00:08:53.640 Anything else? I don't know. Don't know if we can get to that. Look at the Save America Act.
00:08:58.520 We were the only channel, the only network that covered every night, every single night,
00:09:05.940 We covered the heroic Mike Lee and Eric Schmidt and a handful of others that every night went up there.
00:09:14.900 Tommy Tuberville, and Tuberville's part of that, and Mike Lee most of the time is part of what I would say the MAGA, the 5, 6, 7, or 8 in the Senate.
00:09:24.060 We would go, you know, they'd go to midnight, go to 11 o'clock every night.
00:09:27.020 But you could tell at the time, you know, Jenny Beth was on here, Jenny Beth Martin was on here, Cleta was on here.
00:09:34.100 and I kept asking them, I'm thinking, hey, doesn't this feel a little performative?
00:09:37.600 The audience, I can tell, the audience doesn't feel the juices running on this.
00:09:40.940 They're not ready to go to the ramparts because this is not happening.
00:09:47.620 So you have a way to save the Senate.
00:09:51.020 This afternoon, Dana Bash and CNN and all these different networks,
00:09:53.920 they're all sitting there and they're just repeating, repeating, repeating 0.99
00:09:57.280 what the scumbags, 0.99
00:10:02.300 Las Avidas and these guys, 0.99
00:10:03.560 have put $150 million.
00:10:06.300 You want to talk about crime?
00:10:08.060 $150 million of not ads about policy
00:10:11.940 or debates within the Republican Party
00:10:14.740 or between MAGA and the establishment.
00:10:16.660 No.
00:10:17.420 It was to destroy Ken Paxson
00:10:22.120 and by destroying Ken Paxson,
00:10:23.920 destroy the grassroots movement.
00:10:27.280 They just want grassroots movement to shut up, show up to vote, send us your money, and you're just going to have to live with what we come up with.
00:10:38.800 We don't want to hear it.
00:10:39.980 We're not interested in it.
00:10:41.220 We're not interested in what you have to say.
00:10:43.380 If they were interested in what you had to say, they would have embraced the grassroots movement long before this and said, okay, what do you want?
00:10:51.600 Mass deportations.
00:10:52.760 You want America first foreign policy. 0.66
00:10:56.240 Right? 0.58
00:10:57.100 You want to secure the borders.
00:11:00.280 Everything absolutely opposed to Cornyn.
00:11:02.760 Cornyn played the oldest game in the world to come back, you know,
00:11:05.820 after what, 24 years, and really mock people to their face about he's
00:11:10.620 destroying his ad, you know, walking down with the big cowboy hat on.
00:11:13.480 You've got a big cowboy hat and a couple other guys' cowboy hats.
00:11:16.120 That makes it official.
00:11:17.300 Cowboy hat.
00:11:17.940 He's walking past the border wall.
00:11:20.800 This is a guy that with McConnell fought the border wall intensely.
00:11:26.680 In 17, when we had that opportunity to get a budget that we could have things that President Trump wanted in there,
00:11:32.440 after President Trump delivered the Senate to him, you had McConnell and Cornyn and these guys fight it.
00:11:40.860 They didn't want to border it.
00:11:41.700 He would go on TV or go, you know, it's old technology, you can't do this, on and on and on.
00:11:49.020 Ken Paxson calls him Caliphate, you know, calls him Caliphate Cornyn.
00:11:54.440 why he's been pro you know gulf emirates pro islam for everybody took an ad out as soon as
00:12:00.540 he knew prop 10 was up there and had some traction he and that team they had they took an ad and said
00:12:05.520 you know he's he's so anti-sharia it's unbelievable then he put a bill in he put actually put a bill 1.00
00:12:11.480 in with you know the anti-sharia law act i mean this is how stupid he thinks you are 0.98
00:12:18.620 and it was a grassroots effort 100 because ken paxton had no money he's not a great fundraiser 0.96
00:12:25.340 because he's a grassroots guy but as i said in the hills newspaper this is going to be very intense
00:12:33.680 and it's going to be very tough it's going to be very hard but ken paxton could win by five points
00:12:39.940 and they said today on cnn yes it's going to cost 500 million dollars because carl rove is up over
00:12:45.540 there in Fox. Oh, yeah, it's going to cost three, four hundred million dollars. It's going to suck
00:12:49.000 resources in front of you. Screw you. All you did was go on Fox every day and trash talk Ken Paxton 1.00
00:12:56.680 trash talking. And you're wrong about everything as you've been wrong since, you know, you're the 0.84
00:13:01.580 operative for the Bush, you know, apparatus. Now, hopefully after beating Jeb's son and now
00:13:08.940 crushing in a humiliation, particularly with
00:13:13.140 $150 million.
00:13:17.500 They're talking about, oh, there's going to be resources. Where's the $150?
00:13:21.420 Why don't we use that? And Tallarico, nobody in Texas knows Tallarico.
00:13:26.020 He's being defined right now. It's Alfred E.
00:13:29.700 Tallarico. What, me vegan? This guy's
00:13:33.420 not just, it's not just radical. He's a weirdo. 0.98
00:13:37.860 Texas is not going to like that guy. 0.96
00:13:39.560 It's not going to happen. 0.97
00:13:41.220 The more you see him, the more you go, wow, what a weirdo.
00:13:46.920 That is not Texas.
00:13:49.380 That's maybe some NPR Karen's view of what they want to represent Texas,
00:13:57.620 but that is quite small.
00:14:00.440 This could be a five-point block.
00:14:01.980 CalC, and I'm not saying the predictive markets are all,
00:14:04.640 But it's 60-40 as we speak right now.
00:14:08.740 And those are people putting up hard money.
00:14:12.620 60-40, 20-point spread, 20-point spread.
00:14:16.500 You could beat Tallarico by five.
00:14:19.080 You define him right now.
00:14:21.100 The president called him Alfred E. Newman.
00:14:22.980 I think I would change it to Alfred E. Tallarico.
00:14:26.540 What, me, vegan?
00:14:28.100 They got a thing of him eating a big old, I don't know,
00:14:31.400 the back of a steer or something trying to prove he's a man what a beauty we're going to talk to
00:14:39.480 the grassroots next about why ken paxton has such intense support and why we have to use this
00:14:47.580 election as a forcing function on capitol hill to force these no good lazy senators to get to work
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00:16:25.040 War Room.
00:16:25.960 Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
00:16:30.140 Okay, we're going to go to CNN.
00:16:32.600 I want to show CNN.
00:16:33.740 Here's the forcing function.
00:16:35.700 You use the victory in the grassroots leaders that led this victory in Texas.
00:16:42.440 30 points.
00:16:43.500 Unbelievable.
00:16:44.000 What a job.
00:16:45.560 with no money and 150 spent against you that you must put it in context and a 24-year incumbent
00:16:51.400 you had all that you have to use that as a forcing function to get the senate to stop
00:17:00.120 treating president trump as a lame duck and get to work and get the trump agenda done over this
00:17:05.260 next 60 days or even take up to september they don't need a vacation the deadbeats anyway if 0.83
00:17:11.580 they don't do that it's very simply don't do that you're not going i don't care how much money you
00:17:14.960 got you have to have grassroots enthusiasm not going to win in georgia not going north carolina
00:17:20.280 not going to win uh in maine not going to win in ohio probably not going to win in alaska
00:17:26.800 right unless we get a a a a um this radical in michigan not going to win in michigan
00:17:34.180 just go across the board because people are not fired up they're not they're not prepared to go
00:17:40.520 the extra length. It's all about voter engagement. It's all about low propensity voters. We can do
00:17:46.460 this. This is not a persuasion election. That's where they keep the miscalculation of the people
00:17:52.240 are spending the money. It's not persuasion. It's motivation. It's get out the vote. Let's go to
00:17:58.140 Texas and get it from some leaders. The Texas, the True Texas Project, Julie McCarty and Fran
00:18:05.500 roads julie i'll start with you ma'am your assessment get just tell us this audience
00:18:10.200 how did ken paxton with no money do have this historic probably the first time in the republic
00:18:18.720 if you really compare apples to apples 30 point almost 30 point win against 150 million bucks
00:18:24.940 ma'am it's been one because he delivered to the grassroots i think everything you've just said
00:18:31.940 is absolutely true. We have loved him for years because it's like every single day you open the
00:18:38.280 news and Ken Paxton did this, Ken Paxton did that. And that's what we elected him to do.
00:18:42.920 If every politician would do the things that Ken's doing, would follow through on their campaign
00:18:48.620 promises, they would all get elected with a 30-point spread or whatever the spread you said
00:18:53.800 was. He delivers. And that's what the grassroots, that inspires them to get out the vote.
00:18:59.600 you're one in one of the most important parts of texas particularly you have to win big up there
00:19:06.480 in tarrant county uh how was it just walk us through the mechanics how did you guys actually
00:19:12.120 pull this off honestly we have been training our activists for 17 years we've been here so
00:19:20.920 um we have a reputation for telling it like it is for for making the hard decisions and taking
00:19:27.400 the heat for it. And after doing that for 17 years, people, they may not like it, but they do
00:19:33.700 trust us. And so when we put out our voting recommendations statewide, we make our endorsements
00:19:39.780 and people all across the state, whether they are near a True Texas Project satellite or not,
00:19:46.280 they are relying on us for our voter recommendations. We always encourage our people,
00:19:53.020 you've got to work hard, you've got to be getting out the vote, you've got to work the polls,
00:19:56.320 and they get it. It's not the first time we have won a campaign that was the grassroots beating a
00:20:04.120 Goliath. We've done it before. We'll do it again. We're going to get Ken Paxton elected to the
00:20:11.240 Senate. Talk to me about most of the mainstream media is, I think, totally misinterpreting
00:20:17.220 what went on in Texas. What would you tell the mainstream media, what the real story is, ma'am?
00:20:23.200 Well, the media likes to say that this was all Donald Trump's doing. And I don't want to discredit the favor that Donald Trump has among the Republicans. But Ken Paxton was going to win this before Donald Trump ever made his endorsement. I don't think Trump would have made the endorsement if he didn't already see that Ken Paxton was going to win. He was on the fence. He was very wishy-washy.
00:20:43.260 you know, am I going to support Cornyn or am I going to support Paxton? And in the end,
00:20:47.960 he supported Paxton. But the grassroots knew long before that, that that's who we were going to
00:20:53.040 elect. So I remember very vividly when Ken Paxton came to me before he had even announced and he was
00:20:59.800 just kicking the tires. And I was disappointed because I would rather have him be governor.
00:21:04.240 But my very first response was, oh, this is going to be fun. Because, you know, Texans booed John
00:21:09.320 cornyn at our convention and we were just itching for a good candidate that could take him out and
00:21:15.060 we did it i i remember that very well fran rhodes um talk to me about the 150 million dollars now
00:21:22.880 we had the show down we moved the show down to the patron mobile guys and some other places down in
00:21:27.260 north of dallas uh for a couple of months early on and i remember seeing these ads and uh and
00:21:34.220 the olympics was on for part of the time we watched broadcast tv the nightly news the local
00:21:38.840 news as you know is the one of the most expensive parts and they're just on nightly news every night
00:21:44.320 every broadcast channel on every cable just carpet bombing and i told people i said these ads are so
00:21:50.440 awful i i can't imagine ken paxton's mother's going to vote for him i mean it just it was just it was
00:21:55.680 just the scale of it was something that no one had ever seen before how did that play to the
00:22:00.200 grassroots, ma'am? It doesn't play very well, truthfully. We mostly, down here in Texas, we
00:22:09.200 believe that money doesn't necessarily win a campaign. Of course, it's important, but we've
00:22:14.900 seen it over and over again where the most money spent is the loser. And I think this Cornyn
00:22:21.180 race, Cornyn-Paxson race, is a great example of that. We've been trying to get rid of John Cornyn
00:22:29.200 for the last two election cycles that I can recall, but we've just never had a candidate
00:22:35.320 that was recognizable, that had name recognition, that could stand up to the money that Cornyn
00:22:41.740 raises. So we love Ken Paxson in Texas, and we're going to be happy to have him in the Senate.
00:22:50.380 What, I'm going to get to, I'm going to ask both of you guys about Tallarico in a second, but
00:22:54.480 one of the reasons I want to have grassroots leaders on here for Texas, having spent so
00:22:58.680 much time down there with you guys. There are lessons for the nation in two things. One,
00:23:05.260 what the grassroots did in all these states on redistricting, including Texas, where it kind of
00:23:09.900 kicked off this time, but also in this race. What would you tell the senators? Because they're all
00:23:15.460 sitting up there and they're not working with Trump. They're kind of treating him like a lame
00:23:19.440 duck. And they all think the same Senate leadership fund, the exact same money that came in and back
00:23:25.600 Cornyn to destroy the grassroots in Texas and destroy Ken Paxton, their champion.
00:23:30.380 The exact same people are sitting up here in D.C. right now saying, well, hold it.
00:23:34.320 We got such a massive fundraising advantage over the over the Democrats that we've got this.
00:23:39.720 Ma'am, Fran, what would you what would you tell the Senate Leadership Fund and the leaders in
00:23:43.880 the Senate right now that are not moving any of the legislation that President Trump needs?
00:23:47.640 well i can tell you there's several uh candidates here in texas at the state level that have said
00:23:56.960 we don't need the grassroots to get elected and we have uh handily proven them wrong and they are
00:24:04.800 no longer state representatives or state senators whatever so i mean i would send the same message
00:24:10.960 to the the senate they may not care what the grassroots think but it's time that they start
00:24:17.480 caring because the grassroots people care. And if enough other states do what Texas has done here
00:24:27.020 and elect a really hardworking candidate that's going to defend their state the way
00:24:33.720 Paxton has defended Texas, then we could change the face of the Senate.
00:24:40.860 Julie, what would you tell the president? What are the lessons that you believe he should take
00:24:45.660 away from Texas, particularly as it relates to his relationship with the United States Senate
00:24:51.700 right now? Ma'am. The president, he's got a great agenda. I wish that he would push it a little bit
00:24:59.760 harder. And I think he can maximize this win with Paxton and prove that the grassroots are with him.
00:25:07.700 The grassroots want to do what his agenda says. And they'll win if they do that. I've never
00:25:13.060 understood politicians that don't answer to the grassroots, only because you know when they do
00:25:19.640 the right thing. Like when Paxton walks out onto a stage, he's going to get a thunderous roaring
00:25:24.660 applause from the grassroots that are so grateful for what he does. Now, does not every politician
00:25:30.160 want that thunderous roaring applause? Would they rather be booed like Corning gets booed because
00:25:35.220 he betrays the grassroots? That makes no sense to me. So the more you can push Trump's original
00:25:40.820 agenda, the more people are going to praise you. But I mean, not accomplishing that agenda
00:25:48.760 makes Trump look bad and makes them look bad and it makes the grassroots angry. And then people
00:25:53.760 want to go home and say, forget it, I'm done. So the only way to save America, to succeed in
00:26:01.560 politics is to listen to the grassroots every time, every time. Hang on, I'm going to hold
00:26:08.760 you guys through the break. We've still got a couple of minutes because I want to ask you what
00:26:11.660 the political class and particularly the media class don't understand about what's happening
00:26:16.340 in Texas right now. Fran, I'll start with you. It appears to me, having spent a couple of months
00:26:21.740 down there, that the media in New York and D.C. think that Tallarico is the second coming and
00:26:27.720 he's a perfect NPR candidate, but that he's not really defined in the minds of the people in the
00:26:33.720 state of Texas. Fran, would you agree with that? Do you think that people, and as you look at
00:26:38.640 Tallarico as the opposition here. Does he strike fear into the grassroots in Texas as someone
00:26:44.540 that's unbeatable? Not at all. I think he's easily beatable. He is a total freak. We're
00:26:54.740 calling him Tallarico down here in Texas. I've observed him in the Texas House for the last
00:27:00.980 several sessions and he not he not only believes these crazy things he works hard to get them
00:27:08.980 passed in the legislature and we are constantly having to fight back against it uh it it's just
00:27:16.100 a constant battle to keep these democrats from trying to do things that are just crazy in my
00:27:22.060 opinion so yeah i think i've thought from the moment ken paxton announced and people started
00:27:28.120 saying oh he'll never defeat Tallarico I just think that's crazy I think Paxton will easily
00:27:35.620 defeat Tallarico in Texas now if Tallarico wants to run for senate from the state of New York
00:27:41.760 or you know California or one of those states sure he'd have a great chance because he's their
00:27:47.660 dream candidate. Fran hang on for one second Julie hang on for one second I want to hold you guys
00:27:54.360 we'll get right back to Texas
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00:28:24.180 Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
00:28:32.240 Julie, I want to ask you the same question because inside,
00:28:36.400 I didn't even play the Dana Besh cut because, I mean,
00:28:39.060 they're sitting there going, you know, he's the perfect candidate.
00:28:41.860 Texas has looked for this guy forever.
00:28:43.800 This is going to be, you know, the first time.
00:28:45.440 Ken Paxson is going to have to, a guy said that Ken Paxson
00:28:50.480 They're going to have to raise and spend $500 million in Texas to defeat Tallarico.
00:28:59.180 Your thoughts, ma'am?
00:29:01.320 I think they're always going to try to scare the people into giving their money away to a campaign.
00:29:07.260 So, yes, of course, they're going to talk about how expensive this race is going to be.
00:29:11.020 But let me just give you an example of something that happened just yesterday.
00:29:14.880 I had a True Texas Project supporter, you know, probably more educated on politics than most, and he had a friend talking to him saying, well, hey, I have Tallarico, and he sounds pretty good, and, you know, he's got all these churchy kind of things going on, and maybe he's better than Ken Paxson because, you know, we don't like Ken or whatever.
00:29:34.420 and and this educated voter got confused and he's like well wait a minute maybe i should be
00:29:41.200 supporting talafrico and it took us 2.2 seconds to just give him some quotes from from talarico
00:29:48.520 things that he believes just bullet pointing you know his his beliefs on gender and his beliefs on
00:29:54.620 jesus and and and it's so obvious so quickly that he really i mean his name is apt talafrico that's
00:30:01.940 Ken Paxton came up with that, and man, he nailed it because it doesn't take any time at all for 0.56
00:30:07.360 the grassroots to realize this guy is a nut job, and nobody's going to vote for him. I know everybody 0.61
00:30:13.800 is afraid that this could go either way, and it's going to be a close race. I'm with Fran. I don't
00:30:18.220 think it's going to be a close race. I think we got this. It's going to be a lot of hard work,
00:30:23.320 but I agree with you. I think it's going to be a five or ten point spread because I think more
00:30:26.840 Texans get into it. And now, you know, he's already started apologizing. He starts off this
00:30:31.000 thing with the apology you know about uh god being binary and all that no no no no dude that's
00:30:36.360 what you absolutely believe and on your rise up and with the with the media in new york city and
00:30:42.040 in dc and in hollywood you rode this so now you gotta live with it it's absolutely what he believes
00:30:47.300 and basically what he believes behind closed doors so he is a total freak he's being defined
00:30:52.460 even as we speak and i think ken paxton's team are doing a great job uh julie i'll start with
00:30:57.500 Where do we go for your social media and where do we go to get True Texas Project, particularly people around the nation that want to get some of the lessons learned of this massive victory down in the Longhorn State?
00:31:09.900 Yeah, we're at TrueTexasProject.com, all spelled out, TrueTexasProject.com.
00:31:15.680 We've got training on our website.
00:31:17.940 People can become a certified True Texan.
00:31:20.440 They take five classes and they basically get trained to be an activist.
00:31:24.160 We've had people around the state that they go to our satellites and they're speaking to our different groups and they'll tell us that the true Texans that they speak to, their activism, their level of intelligence, their level of engagement is off the charts compared to other groups that they speak to because we have put so much into training them and it's all on our website.
00:31:45.180 That's amazing. Do you have a personal social media?
00:31:48.000 Yes, I'm Julie White-McCarty on Facebook, and HeyJulieSue on X.
00:31:54.800 HeyJulieSue. Fran, what's your personal social media?
00:32:02.220 Yes, on Facebook, I am Fran Waters Rhodes, and on X, I am Fran Rhodes TX1.
00:32:11.200 guys don't ever change a historic win i mean historic historic for this country about
00:32:19.720 our past but more importantly it's historic because i think this is the game changer
00:32:24.900 that leads us on to victory both in the house and the senate and we'll get the senate well
00:32:30.700 we're going to use this as a club to browbeat them into submission and doing the right thing
00:32:36.120 so historic win and it was people like you that did it on your shoulders love you guys thank you
00:32:41.060 Thank you.
00:32:43.740 This is the redistricting effort, the Sharia law, redistricting throughout the country, the Sharia law in Texas, here, historic.
00:32:56.040 If you get the grassroots, if you get the MAGA base motivated, if you get them focused and motivated, great things will happen.
00:33:06.120 There has to be a confrontation with the Senate.
00:33:10.780 It's not to take Cornyn as a lesson.
00:33:13.420 Cornyn's your boy.
00:33:15.000 He's yours.
00:33:16.480 Everything about him is you.
00:33:18.880 The Senate.
00:33:19.600 Senate Leadership Fund, Stephen Law, you know, La Cervita, all these guys.
00:33:24.700 He's you.
00:33:26.480 In your campaign, did you make it about issues?
00:33:28.740 Did you make it about the great issues of the day?
00:33:30.600 Did you give the Texans on the conservative side something to think about?
00:33:34.180 No, you did not.
00:33:36.080 You went back to your parlor trick. 0.99
00:33:38.180 Let's destroy them. 0.99
00:33:39.840 well, guess what? It didn't work. We destroyed you. And now it's time that Thune better listen 1.00
00:33:46.540 up and let's get him removed. Put the fear of God in the 27 of them to make the change. You're going 0.64
00:33:52.420 to lose. You're going to lose in Maine. You're going to lose in Georgia. You're going to lose
00:33:57.280 in North Carolina. You're going to lose in Ohio. Mark my words, people are not going to turn out
00:34:02.600 for it. Just don't think you assume that people are going to come out and do the work that has
00:34:09.040 to be done in voter engagement. It's not going to happen because they understand you don't do
00:34:15.040 anything. The Save America thing was a complete performance art. And then you left for two weeks
00:34:21.000 up in Trump's face, left the other day. We only got five months and the clock is ticking. We're
00:34:29.180 burning daylight. We're burning daylight. The grassroots done with it. Cook today, I think,
00:34:35.320 came out i think we're at 210 basically safe seats of the 218 there's 18 or 19 susan i think
00:34:42.120 there's roughly 18 toss-ups we're at 210 the democrats are 207 but a totally different
00:34:50.040 situation than in years past we can actually hold the house with with with the horrific work that
00:34:56.260 they've done that's because the grassroots got the redistricting done and put the fear got them
00:35:01.720 They still left eight or nine seats on the table. Ridiculous. Ridiculous. 0.94
00:35:09.900 But it's time to stop playing softball with the Senate. 0.98
00:35:14.680 They either got to listen up or make some changes. Give them a shot.
00:35:18.780 Mr. President, give them a shot like Trump doesn't have the weight of the world on his shoulders.
00:35:22.100 I got Philip Patrick here. He's trying to negotiate a deal with some of the hardest people in the world to negotiate with the Persians
00:35:28.520 that have, you know, 3,500 years of experience of doing this, Philip Patrick. 0.98
00:35:37.440 And, you know, it's your brother is one of the most one of the best experts we've ever had on here about that.
00:35:44.420 Trump's got the weight of that. He's doing everything in the world.
00:35:47.400 The weight's on his shoulders. He's still got to go and whip votes on redistricting.
00:35:51.380 And now he's got to play patty cake with the Senate because they don't feel like doing what he wants to have done.
00:35:56.600 They got other ideas.
00:35:57.900 We don't care what your other ideas are.
00:35:59.500 We see it.
00:35:59.940 You don't want to do the Save America Act.
00:36:01.180 You don't want to do anything that's in the Trump program.
00:36:05.620 It's time now to get as hard and tough with the Senate as we got with John Cornyn.
00:36:12.120 John Cornyn, big talk.
00:36:13.520 He's big talk.
00:36:14.300 You know, going to Israel.
00:36:15.220 Steve Bannon's an anti-Semite. 1.00
00:36:16.680 Screw you, dude. 1.00
00:36:17.580 You're in the dustbin of history. 1.00
00:36:19.600 Anti-Semite, that. 1.00
00:36:22.620 Total, complete scumbag. 1.00
00:36:24.480 And he gave that thing the other day. 1.00
00:36:25.680 you're quoting poetry and you're quoting you know the man in the arena you know big crocodile tears
00:36:31.560 you and your wife you had a room full of 50 uh journalists not one supporter showed up that is
00:36:40.000 your career that's the dustbin of history you just got kicked into cornyn here's the great news
00:36:44.940 bro in la savita it will resonate throughout history of the historic defeat by the little guys
00:36:51.480 in texas the little guys in texas said paxton's been there from day one you tried to impeach him 0.97
00:36:58.860 you tried to throw him out you tried to feed him you ran the the dump the bushes get dumber as you 0.99
00:37:03.600 go down the evolutionary chain here the the jeb's son dumbest of the lot and be dumber than 43 that's 1.00
00:37:10.400 pretty dumb and ken paxton defeated him philip patrick where are we see this deal the economy 1.00
00:37:17.820 Scott Besson did the press conference today. 0.99
00:37:22.360 I thought Scott did a very good job, but he got peppered with a lot of questions about the economy.
00:37:26.940 What's your assessment right now, and particularly where does the ownership of physical gold fold into that, sir?
00:37:35.320 The assessment of the economy or the peace deal, Steve, to clarify?
00:37:39.200 Sorry.
00:37:40.280 Well, let's take the peace deal first, and then from the peace deal we can talk because the economy is not going to get –
00:37:45.700 We're not going to re-kick it until we get an off-ramp.
00:37:49.000 And this looks, it got a feel of an off-ramp, sir.
00:37:52.680 Yeah, let's see.
00:37:54.100 It's interesting.
00:37:54.940 I saw the reports coming through Axios this morning.
00:37:57.680 It doesn't look like a final peace deal at this point.
00:38:00.440 It feels like a 60-day pressure valve.
00:38:03.280 Hopefully, the beginning of the end of the conflict is what I'm hoping for.
00:38:07.800 The reported terms seem pretty clear, right? 1.00
00:38:10.420 We're requiring the Iranians to open up the straits immediately. 1.00
00:38:13.820 No tolls, no harassment. 1.00
00:38:15.380 and, importantly, to remove mines within 30 days.
00:38:19.040 And I think in response, we said we're going to lift the naval blockade in stages
00:38:22.580 as shipping starts to resume and give Iran some limited ability to sell oil again.
00:38:28.720 I'd be interested to see how that plays out.
00:38:31.400 The bigger nuclear question, though, is being pushed, I think, to future negotiations.
00:38:36.720 Economically, the impact is pretty clear already.
00:38:39.360 Oil pressure is reducing as we speak.
00:38:42.120 If tankers can move freely through the Strait of Hormuz, it's going to take immediate fear premiums out of energy prices.
00:38:49.620 Brent crude, last I checked, had dropped to $85 a barrel already.
00:38:54.260 And that matters, as we've said many times.
00:38:56.560 Energy is not just another commodity.
00:38:58.780 It's the input behind absolutely everything, you know, trucking, food, shipping, et cetera, et cetera.
00:39:05.700 There's also a few other vital commodities that pass through the strait that are vital for semiconductor manufacturing and other things.
00:39:13.700 So, yes, I would say this is good news.
00:39:16.660 Anything that gets traffic moving through the strait is, and it gives the White House some breathing room.
00:39:22.160 But what it doesn't do is solve the underlying problems yet.
00:39:26.680 It just postpones them, right? 0.61
00:39:28.300 Iran's enriched uranium is not yet disposed of. 0.90
00:39:32.440 Sanction relief is not yet finalized.
00:39:34.360 We still have to keep U.S. forces there until there's a final agreement.
00:39:38.640 And the straits already starting to see skirmishes while we're negotiating the peace deal. 1.00
00:39:43.820 You mentioned earlier the Iranians are some of the trickiest people to negotiate with. 1.00
00:39:48.220 I don't expect this to be smooth from here. 1.00
00:39:50.980 I think the key phrase now is de-escalation, not so much resolution. 0.66
00:39:55.800 If Trump can force the Iranians to really reopen the strait without surrendering the nuclear issue, that's going to be real leverage. 0.50
00:40:02.840 But from an economic standpoint, I don't think we should confuse this 60-day timeout with a durable reset. 0.56
00:40:09.940 Essentially, the match may be off the fuse, but the fuse is there and the match is still burning.
00:40:16.580 Scott Besant, and I think he said this the other day, if you go back to 27 February, the day before the start of this,
00:40:24.380 growth then was looking like 4% coming out of Atlanta and other places, 4% of the Fed.
00:40:30.800 and inflation was going to be down to 2%.
00:40:33.640 I would like to have had that question asked to Scott today,
00:40:38.300 but your assessment, when you guys look at macroeconomic,
00:40:42.020 when do we return to that?
00:40:43.900 Because that's the Trump economic program.
00:40:46.860 We've got about a minute.
00:40:47.640 I'm going to hold you through, Philip.
00:40:50.060 When do we return to that, sir?
00:40:53.180 Look, it's going to be tough.
00:40:55.360 I think we need to get this conflict resolved.
00:40:59.160 It looks like we're heading in that direction, but we're not there yet.
00:41:03.440 And I think once the world starts to see, you know, volatility has calmed down,
00:41:09.120 straits are operating normally, I think they've got an opportunity maybe the following quarter
00:41:14.060 to start to create some stability and bring the inflation number down.
00:41:19.180 Growth's going to be an interesting part as well.
00:41:21.260 They're banking a lot on AI.
00:41:23.640 I'm interested to see how that pans out.
00:41:26.200 I know Besant was sort of touting the idea that AI growth could support our debt.
00:41:31.040 So we got a little bit of time to go.
00:41:33.580 But like I said, a resolution to this conflict sooner rather than later is going to bring
00:41:37.540 that time frame forward. 0.97
00:41:39.380 I'm a little bit more skeptical than others that the Iranians are going to play ball. 1.00
00:41:43.700 So I'm starting to get concerned this thing will drag out a little longer. 1.00
00:41:47.040 But like I said, once it's in the rearview mirror, I think they're going to be set up
00:41:50.740 to start bringing the inflation number down and pushing growth.
00:41:54.040 But until then, we're tight.
00:41:56.660 Okay, stick around.
00:41:57.800 We're going to take a short commercial break.
00:42:00.040 Birchgold.com slash Bannon.
00:42:03.280 Got that right after five years.
00:42:05.260 Slash Bannon.
00:42:05.960 End of the dollar empire.
00:42:07.060 We go into the entire issue about being the prime reserve currency
00:42:11.340 and the pressure, as President Trump needed more pressure,
00:42:14.280 the pressure on the U.S. dollar.
00:42:15.920 And you get to talk to Philip Patrick and the team over at Birch Gold.
00:42:19.560 You know, Philip Patrick, I highly respect Scott Besson.
00:42:32.900 I admire Scott Besson, and I'm glad he's got the job because of a safe pair of hands.
00:42:38.660 And if Elon Musk had his choice of Lutnick, it would have been a complete and total unmitigated disaster.
00:42:45.820 So the war room was right there, and he's done a great job.
00:42:48.900 I do disagree with his response today a little bit on AI.
00:42:55.660 Our business model for the country is a highly leveraged bet on really unproven technology,
00:43:02.460 massive productivity gains to grow our way out of here.
00:43:06.000 If we're going to grow our way out of here through manufacturing, okay, that's one thing.
00:43:11.280 But AI and the investment AI, I'm not so sure about that,
00:43:14.560 particularly on the when you add in the modicum of restraints that have to be put in here so i
00:43:19.980 don't know that's an open question but right now how should people be thinking about uh the dollar
00:43:25.820 in the dollar in respect to ownership of physical gold how should they be thinking about it what's
00:43:31.480 your recommendation where they go to contact you guys yeah well that was that was a lot there so
00:43:36.180 first of all i agree with you vehemently uh scott berson is the best guy for the job for sure and i
00:43:42.540 I think theoretically, you know, this investment in AI, AI boom could help increase productivity, reduce costs, create new growth.
00:43:50.380 Right. So the theory is there. But to build a national strategy that completely relies on technological development that hasn't produced any profits yet, let alone the tax revenue needed to close the gap, I think is hopeful.
00:44:04.120 And I don't think it's the way we should do it. When it comes to the debt, listen, this problem isn't going away.
00:44:10.120 The deficit this year is going to be $1.9 trillion.
00:44:13.040 It's heading to over $3 trillion over the next decade.
00:44:16.760 Debt held by the public is already around the size of the entire economy.
00:44:20.740 It's projected to hit 120% of GDP by 2036, which means Washington's going to get backed
00:44:27.500 into a corner at some point, right?
00:44:30.520 What that means for individuals, I think, longer term, and we've discussed this many
00:44:34.940 times, is a longer term devaluation of currency and inflation.
00:44:38.920 And what that means for gold ultimately is higher gold prices.
00:44:43.000 Listen, there's a reason that central banks for the last four and a half years have set
00:44:47.320 consecutive annual records for gold buying.
00:44:50.740 They see the situation when it comes to the dollar.
00:44:54.020 They're looking at the debt trap that we've created for ourselves.
00:44:57.140 And I think they understand that longer term, it's unmanageable.
00:45:00.380 Good stewardship with Besson and Trump can slow down what I think is ultimately the inevitable.
00:45:06.880 But we're hurtling down a path that no empire in human history or no empire's currency, I should say, has ever recovered from.
00:45:15.780 So for me, longer term, we'll see that, you know, a slow devaluation of the dollar.
00:45:21.420 As you and I have discussed many times, it won't be linear, but I think it will be consistent over the longer term.
00:45:27.460 And that's where gold comes in.
00:45:29.460 Gold is designed to preserve buying power.
00:45:32.360 It is power. It is inflation resistant. As the cost of living increases, it increases as well.
00:45:38.380 It's why central banks are buying it to preserve reserves. And it's why we as individuals should
00:45:43.240 buy it to protect our retirements. It's really that simple. And I think longer term, we're going
00:45:48.600 to continue to see gold prices go up. And investment banks are mirroring that sentiment.
00:45:54.220 I've mentioned, I think, here before, JP Morgan is saying gold will hit $6,000 by the end of this
00:45:59.780 year or early next and continue to increase longer term so i think everybody should be considering it
00:46:06.140 like i said besant is doing the best job anybody could in that position but what he inherited was
00:46:13.460 a disaster disaster uh birchgold.com slash bannon end of the dollar empire all free all the
00:46:22.520 information birchgold all free no obligation and they get to talk to you philip patrick thank you
00:46:27.900 so much for coming on here. I look forward to
00:46:29.740 everybody getting on there and talking to
00:46:31.640 Philip Patrick. Remember, there's no obligation.
00:46:33.720 Totally free. Pick his brain.
00:46:35.860 Philip, thank you so much for joining us today.
00:46:38.140 Thank you, Steve. And your words of wisdom.
00:46:41.800 Such a steady
00:46:42.840 pair of hands. Like Besson.
00:46:45.480 Thank God for saying, and Besson, we trust
00:46:47.580 is what they said. Do I have Mike Lindell?
00:46:49.960 Mike Lindell, you're up at the convention, sir?
00:46:53.120 Absolutely.
00:46:53.740 I just stepped out for about a half hour.
00:46:55.500 I'm heading back in there now.
00:46:57.260 The big debate tonight starts in about an hour and 15 minutes.
00:47:01.600 And it's going to be quite a night.
00:47:04.840 It's an hour and a half debate with the candidates.
00:47:07.480 And then we have another hour after that, kind of like a town hall setting.
00:47:14.320 I think we're working to stream that to make sure we get, we don't get enough of Mike Lindell.
00:47:18.480 So we want to see more in this debate because you are leading this campaign.
00:47:22.920 Yes, absolutely.
00:47:24.180 We're going to stream it.
00:47:24.660 We'll watch all that.
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