Bannon's War Room - June 02, 2026


Episode 5415: Battle In South Carolina; Pulte Tapped To Be DNI Director


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00:00:00.000 Former Mesa County clerk and election denier Tina Peters is showing no remorse for her part in the scheme to overturn the will of Colorado's voters.
00:00:09.160 Now, Peters was released from prison today after Democratic Governor Jared Polis reduced her sentence, calling it extremely unusual and lengthy for a first-time nonviolent offender.
00:00:19.820 Peters was convicted in 2024 of breaching her county's voting systems in an attempt to prove the lie that Donald Trump won the 2020 election.
00:00:27.580 She has never apologized for her actions. In fact, minutes after her release, she appeared on Steve Bannon's podcast and had this to say.
00:00:35.940 I know that the Democrats are going to cheat and and no one's really addressing the problem that the basic that I that I spent my time in prison as retribution for.
00:00:49.100 And that was exposing the the election machines that allow the the votes to be flipped. 0.89
00:00:57.580 She convicted. Yes. OK. So jury of her peers. According to Jared Polis on December 11th, 2025, she was prosecuted by a Republican district attorney and found guilty of violating Colorado state laws, including criminal impersonation. 0.99
00:01:13.300 All right. So what the hell is she talking about? And, Governor, what the hell are you doing? I mean, you think this she's changed. She's going to change because she spent a few months in prison.
00:01:24.180 And so you think that, you know, extremely unusual and lengthy. Okay, so the courts can reduce her sentencing. That's why I don't understand any of this. It makes no sense to me. And to prove the point, she gets out of jail and starts promoting the same conspiracies and the same lies that put her behind in jail in the first place. 1.00
00:01:47.260 So help me understand. Help me make sense of the decision.
00:01:51.260 In fact, you couldn't even make sense among your own Democrats because you got censored for it.
00:01:56.620 Ninety percent of the state parties, roughly 700 central committee members voted Wednesday for censure.
00:02:01.420 It means that pollers whose term limit and serving his final year in office will be barred from being honored guest featured speaker and all that other good stuff.
00:02:08.440 All right. The point is, I don't I don't think nobody understands this.
00:02:13.080 I say this not by way of explanation, but just to give context that because Tina Peters was convicted on a state crime, not a federal crime, it meant that Donald Trump could not offer her clemency or a pardon.
00:02:25.580 So it had to come from Governor Polis.
00:02:27.460 I wonder when he got offered.
00:02:28.760 He was we know we know definitely the stick that was used.
00:02:32.040 I mean, he was disinvited from White House meetings.
00:02:34.120 He was called out.
00:02:35.240 Yeah, I mean, I can't go to me.
00:02:36.960 And I think this statement from Secretary of State Jenna Griswold helps really clarify why this all matters, right?
00:02:44.180 Because it matters more than a question of politics. 0.63
00:02:47.380 The governor's grant of clemency to Tina Peters is an affront to our democracy, the people of Colorado, and the election officials across the state. 0.93
00:02:54.740 It sends a dangerous message about accountability for those who attack elections.
00:02:58.120 And this next part is the one I think is really important.
00:03:00.620 Peter's release also will embolden the election denial movement.
00:03:04.380 Since the grant of clemency, she has continued to spread election falsehoods and conspiracies.
00:03:09.020 We always talk about this, that it's not just retrospective.
00:03:11.140 These folks behave, Simone.
00:03:12.000 They're not paying a price for it. 0.97
00:03:13.760 No.
00:03:14.020 They get released, and now they set up funds to pay them millions of dollars.
00:03:18.740 I mean, I think we should all be very, I don't like to scare people, but I do want people to be unnoticed.
00:03:24.980 We should be very concerned about this November and the subsequent Novembers after that.
00:03:29.340 The president on his first day in his second term pardoned all of the anyone convicted under January 6th.
00:03:36.280 What are they going to do this November?
00:03:37.600 He had he attempted to set up a fund that would allow those people to be compensated.
00:03:42.560 He has put election deniers at the highest levels of our government and has openly advocated for convicted election deniers to be released from prison and has received at least compliance from one outgoing Democratic governor on this.
00:03:55.900 why are they working so hard to make sure that these people who attempted to overturn the will
00:04:02.540 of the voters in 2020 are out of jail and in place and available for 20 well look that from
00:04:08.880 my from the seat i'm in and we you know i worked with a lot of good people very much concerned
00:04:14.980 with our democracy war gaming this second term and one of the biggest parts of that
00:04:22.540 was the ballot box, how safe and secure it would be, and the steps that the country would need to
00:04:28.980 take to protect itself from the assault from within, right? Because that's what's happening.
00:04:34.640 They're now on election boards at the state and county level.
00:04:38.740 Fulton County.
00:04:39.500 There we go. And so we see already the grab, the grab in Fulton, the release here, Alicia,
00:04:46.220 It's it pretends a real problem when elections on election night are going to be called as fraudulent because the wrong person.
00:04:57.440 The president already said, I believe, in an interview with Laura Trump that, oh, California doesn't even have ballot boxes.
00:05:03.540 He is willing to say anything if it supports his narrative that there's something going on with these Democratic states.
00:05:09.520 That's why every expert we have spoken to has said the number one thing you can do is overwhelm them at the polls so that it is absolutely undeniable.
00:05:17.700 Daniel, a little bit of breaking news in just a moment ago.
00:05:20.460 So Bill Pulte is, you know, a member, the director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, member of the Trump administration, made headlines over the last year because he's brought, he's accused Trump political foes of mortgage fraud, including Letitia James, Adam Schiff, Senator from California, Fed Reserve Governor Lisa Cook.
00:05:38.200 certainly seen as, and by some would say, a Trump henchman.
00:05:40.980 Well, just a moment ago, President Trump has announced that he's appointing Pulte
00:05:45.640 to be the acting director of national intelligence, DNI, to follow Tulsi Gabbard,
00:05:51.080 who is resigning because her husband is battling illness and cancer.
00:05:55.820 This would seem to be an escalation in Trump's efforts to relitigate 2020,
00:06:01.980 those investigations, which Gabbard was already doing,
00:06:04.120 but also potentially trying to build more acts of retribution against foes.
00:06:08.420 It's all loyalty, right?
00:06:09.820 Because Bill Pulte, who's a businessman, does not have experience in foreign policy in the way that you would probably want the DNI to actually have.
00:06:18.900 Their job is to be the go-between all of the intel agencies and typically give the presentation to the president about what the intel agencies are saying or doing.
00:06:29.860 He is also someone who folks in the White House have been a little bit frustrated with,
00:06:34.600 not Donald Trump, obviously, because he discovered that Jesus meme, he is the one that Donald Trump
00:06:40.180 talked with before he posted it. And so that caused a whole kerfuffle for folks. And that
00:06:46.840 was reported out at the time. I will say this is once again, just Donald Trump finding folks who
00:06:51.680 have no experience, it doesn't matter to him, trying to figure out how do I get the things
00:06:56.680 that I want. And there is no one in the staff that's trying to stop him at a high level.
00:07:01.980 They don't see it as their jobs. And we are going to see, I'm not in the predictions game,
00:07:07.200 but likely going to see a lot more investigations, probably that have some kind of foreign policy
00:07:12.400 aspect to it when it comes to how Bill Polk is going to run. Also, he seems like he's going to
00:07:16.180 keep his other job. So he'll be doing both at this. Right. Yeah. President Trump in this post
00:07:20.700 says he'll continue to do that job. Tulsa Gabbard sort of sidelined herself because she disagreed 1.00
00:07:25.300 with Trump in the Iran war.
00:07:26.500 So she was left out of a lot of key decisions.
00:07:28.960 That's still a really important job.
00:07:30.460 And Pulte comes in here with zero experience
00:07:32.380 in the intelligence communities.
00:07:34.420 A remarkable moment here.
00:07:38.460 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:07:43.360 Pray for our enemies,
00:07:45.360 because we're going medieval on these people.
00:07:48.620 Here's the time I got a free shot
00:07:49.840 at all these networks lying about the people.
00:07:52.920 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:07:54.800 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:07:56.260 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that,
00:07:58.020 but you're not going to stop it.
00:07:58.940 It's going to happen.
00:08:00.220 And where do people like that go to share the big line?
00:08:03.620 MAGA media.
00:08:04.960 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:08:10.340 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:08:13.520 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:08:20.440 War Room.
00:08:21.360 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:08:24.400 it's tuesday second of june year of our lord 2026 president trump just sent a shot across the bow
00:08:35.180 of a lot of folks with wild bill pulte they're sitting there dumping on uh bill pulte remember
00:08:41.260 while bill donovan started oss did a magnificent job for president roosevelt during the second
00:08:46.320 World War, and that was the forerunner of the CIA, Wild Bill Pulte. I would say that that is a
00:08:55.340 middle finger to the Republican members in the Senate. It is a F.U. to the deep state,
00:09:02.020 and I think it's a wake-up call to the White House staff. One thing you say about Bill Pulte,
00:09:06.360 he's a man of action. President Trump wants action, wants action today. There's an article
00:09:14.460 on Politico yesterday that I gave a quote that's telling about how the administration's, you know,
00:09:20.000 bogged down and they're tired. It's kind of a, it's kind of a, you know, they're just grinding
00:09:26.320 through things. Nothing seems to be working. And I give a quote to Politico. I say, hey, look,
00:09:31.240 Mac is not going to end with a whimper instead of a bang. President Trump shows he's got all the
00:09:35.520 juice coming out of Texas. People are looking to be motivated, but you got to take action.
00:09:41.200 You just can't sit there and do nothing. And the first thing you got to do is start in the Republican Senate and have a throwdown that leads to a showdown with Thune. And I think putting Bill Pulte in as acting DNI director, that's a throwdown. That's President Trump saying, I'm not happy with the direction and speed of what things are going on. We'll get more into that in a moment. Jack Posobiec is with me.
00:10:05.020 But talking to Texas and the motivation of the grassroots, the lieutenant governor of the great state of South Carolina joins us right now, Pamela Evitt.
00:10:14.100 Ma'am, President Trump endorsed you last week.
00:10:16.820 This is a hotly contested governor's race.
00:10:19.160 Why?
00:10:19.640 You're running for governor today in the primary.
00:10:21.400 Why did President Trump endorse you among all these other contestants?
00:10:26.720 Well, Stephen, first of all, thank you for having me.
00:10:28.980 And what an honor to be endorsed by President Trump.
00:10:31.600 He called me Friday evening.
00:10:32.820 I was on my way to an event. And, you know, he cited a lot of reasons. It was very humbling.
00:10:37.980 He said, you're a smart conservative business person. You've been with me from the beginning.
00:10:42.820 You're a warrior. You fight for conservative values, and you will bring the American first
00:10:47.400 agenda to South Carolina. I mean, no doubt the president is very influential. I mean,
00:10:53.320 we've seen the way he has predicted races all across the country, as you just mentioned,
00:10:58.660 Texas for one. And it's having a big momentum, hotly contested race here. I have the endorsement
00:11:06.040 of the governor, have the endorsement of the president, lots of other really popular leaders.
00:11:11.540 And so I am one week away. I'm on the bus. We're doing the get out the vote rally around the state.
00:11:16.980 So momentum is in my favor and I'm going to not let my foot off the gas, not going to disappoint
00:11:22.700 conservatives here or our president. Talk to us about this whole fight over the redistricting.
00:11:28.960 You kind of took the lead in that. What was that about? Why were you the lead and so many other
00:11:32.600 people kind of waved off? Well, you know, I've always believed in the president, Stephen. And,
00:11:37.860 you know, he came here in January of 23. I was already the lieutenant governor,
00:11:42.440 but I was a supporter of him when I was a business person running my business.
00:11:46.520 And he called and he said, hey, I'm going to run again. I would love your support.
00:11:51.700 there was not a moment's hesitation. Out of all the people running for governor,
00:11:55.600 I was the only one that went down there on that Saturday afternoon and stood with them when there
00:11:59.200 were no polls to say it was the right thing. So when the governor and I talked and the president
00:12:05.120 was calling for South Carolina to send seven conservative people to help him in D.C.,
00:12:13.820 once again, I didn't flinch. I knew it was the right thing to do. The people of South Carolina
00:12:18.520 that voted me in office were overwhelmingly reaching out and saying, do not take your foot
00:12:23.420 off the gas with this. And, Stephen, it was shocking to see so many Republican senators
00:12:29.640 acting and talking like if this was in reverse, the Democrats would somehow give us like a moment
00:12:37.880 to even think. The Democrats would have walked into that Senate if this was turned around.
00:12:43.420 They would have shoved that down our throats, and they'd have been out having lunch before we knew 0.55
00:12:48.380 would hit us. And that's the way it's been happening around the country. Republicans have
00:12:53.400 got to stand up for our conservative base. That's what President Trump has always done.
00:12:58.220 And that's what I will do as the next governor of South Carolina.
00:13:02.020 Ma'am, as you go around the state, what's the feedback? What are you hearing from voters right
00:13:06.080 now? What is top of mind as they think through the decision for the governorship, but also for
00:13:12.540 these federal offices? Where are the heads of people right now? Well, they want us to eliminate
00:13:17.300 state income tax. And I am right with them there. It's been something that's been on my platform,
00:13:22.820 getting rid of over-regulation. South Carolina right now has over 80,000 regulations.
00:13:28.500 I have called to have all of our regulations sunsetted and brought back up in front of the
00:13:32.700 General Assembly, and let's get rid of what is no longer relevant, and then let's tighten
00:13:38.940 the regulations that are there so bureaucrats can't put their own spin on it. 1.00
00:13:43.660 Judges are also a big thing.
00:13:45.240 South Carolina only one of two states where our judges are completely elected by the General Assembly.
00:13:49.800 The governor and I for years have said, you know, the governor should appoint, the General Assembly can confirm, but we need to base it on a resume.
00:13:59.180 Like, are you qualified to be in that position?
00:14:01.900 If you are, we're going to term limit it and we're going to have a review process.
00:14:05.260 Because we have seen around the country what happens when you get judges on the bench that start to get off the rails.
00:14:11.920 And it becomes a revolving door for criminals.
00:14:14.720 In South Carolina, we will keep our people safe.
00:14:17.600 We will protect conservative speech.
00:14:19.680 You probably heard, Stephen, what happened to me at SC State.
00:14:23.580 You know, I vowed then that as the next governor of South Carolina, any institution who gets
00:14:29.880 a dime of taxpayer money that tries to stop conservative speech, we will pull that state
00:14:35.800 money away in a heartbeat because conservative speech cannot be trampled.
00:14:40.460 Can you hang on for one second?
00:14:41.720 We're going to take a short commercial break.
00:14:43.060 We want to finish with you on the other side.
00:14:45.140 The lieutenant governor of the great state of South Carolina,
00:14:47.400 running for governor,
00:14:48.340 and she is the endorsed candidate of President Trump.
00:14:52.120 Short break.
00:14:52.640 Poso is also going to join us.
00:14:53.920 We're going to talk about Bill Pulte over at D&I
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00:16:33.500 Okay, welcome back.
00:16:34.540 We have the Lieutenant Governor of South Carolina
00:16:37.640 endorsed by President Trump
00:16:38.760 in this very highly contested governor's race.
00:16:41.000 Just to refresh people's memory, ma'am,
00:16:43.420 talk about the situation you were talking about,
00:16:45.340 the suppression of speech.
00:16:46.840 I know it's top of mind to the war room posse
00:16:49.540 and also the President of the United States.
00:16:51.200 What was that?
00:16:53.060 So I was asked in December
00:16:54.820 to be the commencement speaker at SC State.
00:16:58.260 which is a historically black college and university. And I was at the White House.
00:17:03.740 I was invited to be there when the king and queen were there. And there started to be stirring where
00:17:08.300 students did not want me to be their commencement speaker. And they cited the reasons that I was
00:17:13.360 pro-life and I was pro-Trump and I was anti-DEI and I was pro-law enforcement and I was pro-ice.
00:17:20.360 And they said that my values didn't align up with theirs and they didn't want me. And it turned into
00:17:24.900 a really big event where they were protesting. And then all of a sudden, SC State reached out
00:17:32.300 to our offices and basically said, we have security concerns. We're going to have to
00:17:38.340 rescind our invitation. And I was very clear that day after the political assassination of Charlie
00:17:45.620 Kirk. I'm a mom. I have three children. My youngest is in college. And I said, we should
00:17:51.440 get rid of tenure on all these college campuses. And so, you know, that just kind of led into what
00:17:57.400 happened after SC state. I just said, listen, the people of South Carolina do not think that
00:18:03.860 because we are a red state, that these kinds of things aren't happening. And that when I am their
00:18:08.320 governor, any institution, I mean, any institution that wants to silence conservative speech,
00:18:15.280 I will make sure that we take away their state funding, because if conservative speech isn't welcome anywhere, then our tax dollars of the conservatives that put that money in, their tax dollars aren't welcome there either.
00:18:29.120 This gets back to, I just want to take a second, this gets back to these Senate, in the South Carolina Senate that fought on the redistricting, what you said about the Democrats, it was them.
00:18:37.340 And this is kind of our theme this morning. And I think the President Trump designated while Bill Pulte to be DNI gets to the heart of this about taking action and moving out.
00:18:47.120 We only have, you know, so much time. We had Sean Davis on here yesterday from the Federalist, who's not a, you know, he's not a hair on fire guy.
00:18:54.160 He was saying the same thing. We're threatened by people like Paul Krugman, the Nobel Prize winning New York Times columnist, economist and columnist for The New York Times saying that we got to demagify the country and de-Trumpify the country after they stop President Trump.
00:19:10.760 What is it about the establishment, not just in Washington, D.C., but also the states that sit there and think, like in the redistricting fight, oh, well, let's give the Democrats time to kind of think about it.
00:19:22.200 It's not the way the Democrats play.
00:19:23.640 Look at what's happening up in Newark right now.
00:19:25.860 They play smash mouth.
00:19:27.420 Why is it that our establishment figures can't really understand what's going on in the country?
00:19:35.820 I don't know.
00:19:36.740 Stephen, that is a great question.
00:19:38.320 I have spent my time as lieutenant governor.
00:19:40.760 in the trenches with small business and big business and farmers and our forestry.
00:19:46.640 And I listen to what people say. And I'm just wondering, the longer you're in there,
00:19:51.280 the longer you've been in office, the less out of touch you get with the people around you.
00:19:56.220 And I really have, I've said it over and over again, when people have asked me and reporters
00:20:00.620 have asked me, well, you think President Trump will come after them in two years?
00:20:04.600 I said, I don't think President Trump really needs to be the one to come after them. Their
00:20:08.200 own constituents will, because they were extremely disappointed. And I don't know if it's just the
00:20:14.640 fact that they don't listen or they think they know better than the people that put them into
00:20:19.160 office. I've always, because I'm not a career politician, because I spent my life in business
00:20:24.260 and running my business and growing my business into a national company, you know, I realize that,
00:20:30.500 you know, you've got to listen to the people that put you there. I've always believed that we're
00:20:35.200 supposed to be their collective voice. We don't do our will. We do the will of the people.
00:20:41.560 Ma'am, where can people find out more about you at your website,
00:20:45.380 see President Trump's endorsement, and find you on social media about
00:20:49.080 your movements around the great state of South Carolina?
00:20:52.740 Stephen, thank you so much. They can go to PamelaEvitt.com. They can read more about me.
00:20:58.340 They can see the endorsement from our amazing president. Such an honor to have that. And they
00:21:04.640 can see where I'm going to be moving around all week. But Stephen, what we really need to do is
00:21:08.780 get people out to vote because less than 13% in South Carolina historically come out in the primary
00:21:14.040 and that's just not acceptable. Not acceptable. Ma'am, thank you so much. Let's get them fired
00:21:19.780 up down there. It's a great state, great people. Thanks, Stephen. I really appreciate being on
00:21:24.600 your show and keep fighting for the president. We will, ma'am. Thank you. Thank you.
00:21:30.900 um i want to play this clip again the shock of the media because this is a shot across the bat
00:21:37.560 this is a i think middle finger to the republicans in the senate it's a fu to the deep state and it's
00:21:45.420 i think it's kind of a wake-up calling for the staff because i realize you got the war you got
00:21:51.140 so many things you're juggling it all comes back to president trump they put everything on his
00:21:54.500 shoulders he's whipping votes this is what happened in south carolina this is how i think
00:21:58.700 he became very familiar with the lieutenant governor he's whipping votes down there he's
00:22:03.280 got too much on his plate pulte doesn't have a long history in intelligence well while bill
00:22:12.040 donovan didn't either while bill donovan was a uh was a wall street lawyer uh but he was a man
00:22:18.160 of action bill casey when uh president reagan put bill casey bill casey was a wall street lawyer yes
00:22:24.480 They had international contacts and done a lot of things, but they didn't come up through the intelligence community.
00:22:32.160 This is what he's trying to do.
00:22:33.220 He's trying to shake things up.
00:22:34.320 Let's go and play the clip again.
00:22:35.360 I'm going to get Poso up here.
00:22:36.820 Daniel, a little breaking news in just a moment ago.
00:22:39.440 So Bill Pulte is a member, the director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, a member of the Trump administration, made headlines over the last year because he's brought – he's accused Trump political foes of mortgage fraud, including Letitia James, Adam Schiff, senator from California.
00:22:54.480 Fed Reserve Governor Lisa Cook, certainly seen as, and by some would say, a Trump henchman.
00:22:59.980 Well, just a moment ago, President Trump has announced that he's appointing Pulte to be the acting director of national intelligence, DNI, to follow Tulsi Gabbard, who is resigning because her husband is battling illness and cancer.
00:23:14.220 This would seem to be an escalation in Trump's efforts to relitigate 2020, those investigations, which Gabbard was already doing, but also potentially trying to build more acts of retribution against foes.
00:23:27.420 It's all loyalty, right? Because Bill Pulte, who's a businessman, does not have experience in foreign policy in the way that you would probably want the DNI to actually have.
00:23:37.900 Their job is to be the go-between all of the intel agencies.
00:23:42.060 put put put a pin in that right now there and i'll get back to it um
00:23:45.980 so this article in politico where you put that back up where i said mag is not going to end
00:23:53.300 with a whimper instead of a bang president trump's got the juice it's just people got 0.98
00:23:59.340 to respect the juice and the way they respect it is sometimes you got to hit them upside the head
00:24:04.560 now let's start let's go down the the the Republican Senate now I opined in this piece
00:24:11.580 that um the first thing you do is you've got to you've got to throw down on Thune
00:24:18.580 the Republican Senate has to have a come around
00:24:21.760 everybody knows what a come around is right come and see the senior officer at the service
00:24:30.240 academy so where you come and see somebody and get uh you get some words of guidance let's say
00:24:34.200 that words of wisdom you've got to um it's it's a wake-up call for the for the senate and my belief
00:24:43.440 is that the senate you got to start with a throwdown with with thun this is the beginning
00:24:47.860 of that throwdown i think uh what he ought to do we ought to pick the topic recess appointments
00:24:54.060 he's got to tell thun i want you to go on recess an official recess i don't want josh hawley or
00:25:00.300 any of these guys and you can't single out Hawley because they all get a turn in the barrel but I
00:25:05.660 like one of them say I'm not going to do that not going to do that and so um and the throwdown
00:25:11.780 should be about recess appointments pick a topic you know we can win on we can win on this people
00:25:16.240 are outraged about this and maybe in those recess appointments I don't know maybe Bill Pulte gets
00:25:22.200 put put in as D&I you know not acting Jack Posobiec your thoughts about this this is a
00:25:28.500 middle finger to the Republican Senate. It's a F you to the deep state because Pulte's a man of
00:25:34.420 action. And I think it's a wake up call even for the White House staff, because I realize everybody's
00:25:38.340 tired. There's been tremendous pressure. You've done so much in the first term, but people are
00:25:43.200 sitting there going, man, there's so much going on. I'm getting tired. He wants action, action,
00:25:47.360 action. And one thing you say about while Bill Pulte, he'll give you action, sir.
00:25:53.200 Well, Steve, I just got to say, you know, and, you know, I was a little bit blindsided by this
00:25:58.440 i didn't see this coming but my gosh my phone is blowing up uh signal chats you're going all over
00:26:06.000 they said president trump they that president trump dropped a hot one i believe they call it
00:26:11.040 when uh you know when he just tapped wild bull pulty over there because because what has bill
00:26:14.780 done right when you look at what he's done it's it's not his you know and he's had good policy
00:26:20.540 good housing policy he's been working with the white house to you know to help housing policy
00:26:25.020 for, you know, get the, you know, single-payer household system back, something Charlie Kirk
00:26:28.880 talked about. But you look at what he's done more importantly, and I think gotten more headlines,
00:26:34.040 he's been the one to get the criminal referrals. Letitia James, Fannie Willis, Lisa Cook. There's
00:26:42.700 a whole bunch. I think he did Schiff as well. Yeah, Schiff, Swalwell. Of course, I released a
00:26:47.700 different video about Swalwell that people can see he was not at his house when that took place,
00:26:52.020 by the way. And Pulte's the kind of guy where he just gets stuff done and then he goes back to
00:26:58.120 work. And, you know, silent but deadly kind of guy, very aggressive supporter of the president,
00:27:04.040 very aggressive supporter of the MAGA agenda. And Steve, to your point, what the president just did
00:27:09.900 is say, you know what? I'm not taking names from the Senate. I'm not taking names from you guys.
00:27:14.560 I'm not going over and, you know, brown nosing and asking the Senate what they want and their 0.98
00:27:19.220 They're storied, you know, this isn't from the club. 0.86
00:27:22.940 This is from the Mar-a-Lago club.
00:27:25.960 I'm not looking at an Ivy League graduate that has worked in the agency and then gone to an international,
00:27:34.020 gone to work for an international investment bank and then gone to a private equity firm and then dipped in and out of administrations. 0.67
00:27:41.140 I'm looking for a brawler, right?
00:27:44.040 I think I want a brawler.
00:27:45.200 everybody should take that as a equivalent of a papal bull he picked a fighter you should take
00:27:52.360 that as a papal bull he's sending you a signal action action action post so hang on we got a
00:28:00.300 lot to go through today on the intel and geopolitical side jack basobiec joins us a
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00:29:56.220 Okay, Poso, we've got more to cover, but Pulte, by the way, I think you'd be a perfect deputy.
00:30:02.800 I want to say that right now.
00:30:03.580 I think you'd be a perfect deputy to Pulte, given your years of experience as naval intelligence.
00:30:08.040 I think you'd be great, a great deputy to him. And I'll make sure.
00:30:12.460 Wait, wait, wait, wait. And and and years of experience being being a subject of of Democrat intelligence operations.
00:30:21.940 Exactly. And, you know, Antifa, you know, you know, so much of this, which has to people should look at this as a wake up call.
00:30:28.200 This is a wake-up call. The president is signaling you what he feels he needs to execute on his plan for his second term.
00:30:38.120 And there's a lot of people leaning on their shovels or, you know, kind of off message here.
00:30:43.080 And I think it's a wake-up call. He's looking for action, action, action.
00:30:46.940 Does Bill Pulte have decades of experience in intelligence? No.
00:30:51.120 Is that actually necessary to fill this billet? No. Right?
00:30:54.640 You can get those experts around. You need someone of common sense and judgment and action.
00:30:59.580 Well, let's let's let's take a look at the at the people who have had decades of of experience and intelligence and the leaders there.
00:31:07.360 And what they've what what have they gotten us? Right. They've gotten us a situation where our country is flooded by migrants.
00:31:13.480 We've got Antifa networks that are operating with impunity, by the way, impunity across Newark. 0.96
00:31:19.120 And then after I said over and over on human events and reported, I said on Friday, I said they are surging militants from all over the country into Newark.
00:31:28.540 And then Mikey Sherrill, Mikey, who I campaigned against, by the way, even she had to come up and admit that I was 100 percent correct.
00:31:37.100 And she said, I think it was four out of five of the people that they that had been arrested were all from outside Newark.
00:31:42.720 By the way, they're arresting people in Newark right now from outside of Portland.
00:31:46.340 They're coming all the way in for a point. Why? Because that's their most hardened fighters. What they've done is they've created a cadre of their most experienced fighters. Then they fly them in. They surge them in when operations move from one part of the country to another. And where were they doing in what were they doing in January with Greg Bovino, Commander Bovino up there in Minneapolis? That's what they were doing up there. That's why you're finding people from Minneapolis. They were from all over the country.
00:32:12.040 Again, these are networks. This is an organization. There are cells all around the country that are being mobilized. They use crowdfunding apps. They use all sorts of these payment processing apps, which, of course, the Treasury secretary could go after in a second, in a heartbeat and dig in here.
00:32:31.000 And so it wouldn't surprise me, by the way, if the appointment, and I certainly hope that the appointment of Bill Pulte over there,
00:32:37.180 while Bill is an is a time where the DNI can actually start digging in on the domestic side of terrorism as well as the international.
00:32:47.740 Oh, it has to. I think that's one of these. I think it's one of the reasons Pulte selected because Pulte will go there.
00:32:54.040 As you as you know, that John Solomon, who New York Times reporting Solomon may go over in some temporary position on declassification.
00:33:01.000 he is that's that's confirmed that's confirmed he's going to go over there on declassification
00:33:05.660 but the john's been working on this thing about info go ahead if i if i understand and i don't
00:33:11.380 get ahead of my skis here but i i think that's almost going to be like an independent sort of
00:33:15.120 position across the intelligence agencies exactly exactly to work on big areas of declassification
00:33:22.800 for the president uh but he continues to report the dni has come up with foreign interference
00:33:28.000 the ccp's interference in the in the 2020 election and others but deep involvement in that
00:33:33.680 also ukraine trying to like funnel money through usaid and fund it back into the biden campaign 0.75
00:33:39.720 this stinks to high heaven and people are like oh my gosh you know not just that uh about antifa
00:33:46.020 everybody that's giving money to antifa should have been tracked already and shut down and perp
00:33:50.700 walked it's just taking i think it's just taking too long people are going they're going through
00:33:55.920 like normal course of business and process. That's not what Trump's about. Trump is about
00:34:00.560 action, action, action. And I think this Bill Pulte is a shot across the bow of a lot of people
00:34:06.820 to say, hey, look, I want action and I want guys like Bill Pulte. Is it going to be perfect?
00:34:11.860 Probably not. But is it going to be directionally perfect? Probably yes. And I think that's what
00:34:16.620 the president's telling people. You mentioned Bovino, you know, the DHS guy, the, you know,
00:34:22.940 kung fu plumber took a shot at bovino yesterday bovino's been right about everything bovino had 1.00
00:34:28.380 the courage to tell the nation we have 100 million illegal aliens here and those people are not here 0.91
00:34:33.380 for the benefit of this country they're here for the benefit of themselves and foreign powers many 0.99
00:34:38.400 of the times and that's why they all got to go home and so it's the pulties and the bovinos of 0.94
00:34:42.960 the world that are going to take action and get results results the president's looking for in his
00:34:47.460 second term, Jack Posobiec. That's exactly right. And what's great about this, too, is what do we
00:34:53.520 know from Pulte's background when he was in the housing sector and on the public side as well
00:34:59.500 is these referrals. So when he puts the information together, he is going to put together a package.
00:35:05.380 He's going to start pulling records. What did Adam Schiff do? What did Eric Swalwell do? Remember,
00:35:10.420 those were some of his top targets as well as who else? Letitia James and Fannie Willis. So look at
00:35:16.480 the signal not the noise fanny willis that's georgia what do we know that tulsi was working
00:35:20.880 on at dni georgia before and she i understand she's actually at the hospital right now with
00:35:25.580 her husband where he's undergoing surgery i want to offer some some prayers to them as well from
00:35:29.620 myself and from the on behalf of the posse uh because i understand they're they're currently
00:35:33.940 um you know undergoing some surgery in the hospital with his bone cancer but so we know
00:35:39.020 that she and there was that picture that went around and they're saying what's the dni doing
00:35:42.860 down in fulton county georgia what do we know that bill pulte was working on fulton county georgia
00:35:49.520 danny willis so he's someone who's been targeting this same problem set from a different direction
00:35:55.600 but he's intimately involved with this and who else do we have from uh in all of that mike roman
00:36:01.160 mike roman a great philadelphia republican by the way i kind of i don't know i gotta say those those
00:36:08.860 philly conservatives steve you know say what you want about them but they fight
00:36:12.160 I want to play some clips about the situation with the president, Bibi, yesterday. 0.55
00:36:19.140 I may cut it off. We've got about six minutes.
00:36:21.660 I may jump in, Jack, because I want your thoughts on this.
00:36:24.520 Let's go ahead and play it.
00:36:25.980 An Israeli airstrike today on southern Lebanon in a sea of mixed messages over the war.
00:36:30.680 Semi-official Iranian state media says Tehran suspended talks with the U.S. over such strikes.
00:36:35.620 The president says Hezbollah leaders have agreed that all shooting will stop.
00:36:39.800 Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu says the strikes will continue.
00:36:43.220 Today, Axios is reporting that today's phone call between him and the president turned ugly,
00:36:47.560 with President Trump asking Netanyahu, quote, what the F are you doing?
00:36:51.700 And quote, everybody hates you now, everybody hates Israel because of this.
00:36:55.280 The president reportedly lashing out at Netanyahu during expletive-laden conversation.
00:37:01.060 That's according to U.S. officials and a third source briefed on the call.
00:37:04.860 According to one U.S. official, Trump told Netanyahu he was effing crazy and that the prime minister would be in prison if it were not for Trump, likely referring to the Israeli leader's years long corruption trial. 0.66
00:37:17.360 The president adding, quote, everybody hates you now.
00:37:20.880 Everybody hates Israel because of this.
00:37:23.080 That's the president of the United States.
00:37:24.540 A second source briefed on the call said Trump was, quote, pissed and at one point yelled at Netanyahu, quote, what the F are you doing?
00:37:32.080 One of the U.S. officials told Axios that Trump felt in recent days Netanyahu was escalating in a disproportionate way.
00:37:40.180 Another U.S. official said Trump also was concerned by the fact that Israel had killed so many civilians in Lebanon
00:37:46.020 and objected to the Israelis knocking down buildings to take out a single Hezbollah commander.
00:37:51.680 What does President Trump have over Netanyahu?
00:37:56.000 Well, we're going to find out.
00:37:57.500 I think the fact that he got the ceasefire in the first place indicates he has a considerable amount of influence.
00:38:03.620 Netanyahu did not want to stop the fighting in Iran.
00:38:05.940 He certainly didn't want to pause it in Lebanon.
00:38:08.640 That has been unpopular with the Israeli public on both counts and clearly with –
00:38:14.500 Put a pin in this right here.
00:38:16.660 Just put a pin in it, and we'll come back to it.
00:38:19.480 And do we have the tweet that Tel Aviv Levin put up shortly afterwards?
00:38:24.860 you know tel aviv levin who's so supportive of the president as long as the president is doing
00:38:30.040 exactly what israel first wants poso this gets to a deeper issue and i think this is where
00:38:34.820 pulte will come in is that it's not simply as i said the other day before any of this broke
00:38:41.260 that uh when the president put out a true social and said he had talked to bb and that like he had
00:38:48.520 told bb you can't march to beirut i go what when are we marching to beirut um
00:38:54.160 um they they uh have their own strategy in their own set of objectives of which they're fighting
00:39:01.680 for which is fine if you have that but you got to do it on your own okay this is what if you're
00:39:07.180 going to pursue the israel first project uh and i realize there's issues in southern lebanon i'm
00:39:12.140 not saying there's not but if you're going to pursue that you're going to have to pursue that
00:39:15.740 on your own but it gets back to hopefully what what tulsi i think could put forward and hopefully
00:39:21.700 while Bill Pulte could get on top of. Let's go back to the beginning. From the very beginning
00:39:27.880 of this, the intelligence has not been exquisite intelligence. You may have some targeting
00:39:34.960 intelligence. That was fine if you look into regime change. But the intelligence has not been
00:39:40.680 great. I mean, President Trump, if I remember correctly, Jack Posobiec had a total and complete
00:39:46.680 obliteration of the nuclear program as he told us and in the intelligence community backed it up
00:39:52.340 back in late june before charlie kirk was assassinated in late june of last year after
00:39:58.780 we had the expeditionary force from uh of the b-2s and the uh navy uh submarines hitting it
00:40:05.380 with tomahawk missiles obliterated the nuclear program at least for any time in the foreseeable
00:40:10.740 future right the next couple of decades uh that took it out the intelligence he was being served
00:40:16.560 was not good intelligence. We were making decisions upon bad, misleading information,
00:40:25.040 and it's been that way since the beginning. That's why now President Trump is trying to
00:40:29.060 work through some sort of deal with who knows who's on the other side of the table.
00:40:33.660 The Wall Street Journal is reporting now Oman is in the gun sites because guess what? Oman likes 0.92
00:40:38.940 working with the Persians on the other side of the Hormuz who don't report to Tehran to close 0.95
00:40:44.940 the Strait of Hormuz, right? They got their own new deal. They're cutting out away from the Saudis 0.70
00:40:49.500 and away from the Gulf Emirates. So this is a movable feast of players President Trump's got
00:40:54.960 to do. But at the railhead of it, sir, is faulty information that serves the purpose of the Israel
00:41:01.980 first crowd. And that's why we're in the jammer in, sir. Well, Steve, look, just going off the 0.87
00:41:07.840 reports that came out that there was a promise from the Israeli prime minister's office that
00:41:13.880 Iran would collapse, that they would fall apart with this strike on the supreme leader that the
00:41:21.600 regime would would break, that the people would rise up. And we remember President Trump's initial
00:41:27.540 speech where he urged the people to rise up. That hasn't happened. And we've also seen that the
00:41:34.820 regime has been resilient in terms of being able to constitute itself, although as President Trump
00:41:39.580 And Secretary Besson have explained, you know, at the press conference last week on Thursday, where it's the top layer and then the second layer have been taken out.
00:41:48.080 Now you're dealing with this with this third layer. And of course, they got the Supreme Leader's son, the new the new Ayatollah.
00:41:53.040 He's under lock and key. So the the what it believes Secretary Besson put it like this.
00:41:59.640 It's not regime change, but the regime has changed.
00:42:02.500 Point being, though, is whoever came into this and said this was all going to be, you know, a walk in the park, that this would be another Venezuela that just hasn't turned out.
00:42:13.280 And then we saw the same people like Senator Cruz, Nikki Haley, Mark Levin and others saying that talking about this disastrous idea would have been a complete military disaster and a geopolitical disaster for the United States to airdrop our Marines or any quick response force into Carg Island.
00:42:31.580 and that we should get involved in an island,
00:42:34.140 which I keep saying this, Steve,
00:42:35.820 Karg Island is closer to the Iranian coastline
00:42:38.540 than Catalina Island is to California, okay?
00:42:41.900 That's how close it is.
00:42:42.960 You're within conventional artillery range.
00:42:46.240 That means all your soldiers, all your Marines,
00:42:48.540 they are going to be right there sitting ducks.
00:42:50.500 And the president, of course, saw that,
00:42:52.840 saw the futility of that idea,
00:42:54.700 saw how that level of escalation and brinksmanship
00:42:58.000 would have gotten our men killed for no reason.
00:42:59.920 And what did he decide to do very smartly was go to the naval blockade to use the influence of sea power on world history.
00:43:08.540 And make no mistake, President Trump is using the influence of sea power on world history.
00:43:13.080 He's now doing so to put this deal together.
00:43:15.800 And people like Mark Levin and like the prime minister and apparently this national security minister, Ben Gavir, are very, very upset about it.
00:43:25.860 Jack, hang on for one second.
00:43:27.300 I just want to get down to this whole thing about this blow up that happened yesterday.
00:43:32.120 You can tell the president is getting increasingly frustrated.
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00:45:12.740 Jack Posobiec, talk to me about the article.
00:45:15.300 This was pretty brutal quotes by President Trump.
00:45:20.600 I mean, many of us know that there's this kind of building animosity.
00:45:24.480 And you're right.
00:45:25.880 He was briefed many times at the beginning of this war, not his – when he took out the nuclear issue, complete and total obliteration.
00:45:40.540 And there may have been some bits and pieces in the pixie dust and everything like that left.
00:45:45.300 which obviously you've got to collect somehow or figure out how to bury it forever.
00:45:49.340 But that's not what he was told.
00:45:50.780 He was told that 72 hours of strategic bombing or bombing campaign,
00:45:56.260 principally by the Air Force, but also the United States Navy, carrier-based bombing,
00:46:01.340 would lead to an uprising of the Persian people against the theocratic,
00:46:08.260 murderous theocratic regime that's had them under their boot for 50 years.
00:46:11.940 Although it might be said, I say this all the time,
00:46:13.820 remember they put them in place they they threw us out back in uh in 79 in the monarchist and the
00:46:20.220 in the in the the shah's son that have zero is virtually zero following in in back in persia
00:46:26.360 um and so but he was told it'd be an uprising this would be an uprising and steve let's not
00:46:32.020 let's not overlook the fact that that they threw they threw they threw the uh uh they threw the
00:46:38.620 shah out because we put the shah there in the first place after we threw their other guy out 0.84
00:46:42.120 Yes. Now, so tell me about this was a pretty brutal and the White House has not pushed back on this. 0.99
00:46:48.980 I mean, this is a pretty brutal, you know, quote. These are direct quotes on.
00:46:54.200 He just tired of me right now. He's tired. In fact, Mark Levin wants him prosecuted by the by the highest levels of the FBI.
00:47:02.960 Is that correct? That's right. So Mark Levin has come out and said he had a post, you know, very, very aggressive,
00:47:11.080 where he said that this is a leak of the high at the highest level and wants a prosecution there.
00:47:16.740 And so, you know, amidst amidst everything else he's saying that it sounds like he's confirming that it's true, that the conversation was true.
00:47:26.120 I'm not sure if there was a leak to live in as well as about his knowledge of the phone call.
00:47:32.080 Of course, you know, we know that the president watches the show.
00:47:34.700 And so he seemed to be confirming, you know, I would take that as confirmation of the Caputo report in Axios as well, although, of course, calling for the prosecution of Caputo sources.
00:47:46.980 And this shows you an increasing frustration.
00:47:50.680 The president wants to wind this thing up.
00:47:53.340 He wants to figure out what is what is a deal that he can make, right, that keeps peace in the region, removes American troops and gets the flow of oil going.
00:48:02.780 is that basically that's the tripartite that's the three-legged stool he's trying to work 0.85
00:48:06.620 and obviously there's some issues with hezbollah and others but bb's once again they always take
00:48:13.100 it they're not you know america's greatest ally and by the way i've trademarked that
00:48:16.900 america's greatest ally is going to do what they're going to do and that's not coming from
00:48:20.100 me that's coming from the president in this conversation sir well and steve one thing that
00:48:25.200 i that i would would also not to do a question against but just also to explain to folks is that
00:48:31.640 Just because a reporter comes up in D.C. and says that, oh, I have a I have this report that's based on these sources.
00:48:39.640 I can't name the sources. That doesn't mean that the report wasn't, in fact, coordinated with the White House.
00:48:46.040 It may just be that the White House has decided that they don't want to put names on it for other reasons, for that's their own prerogative.
00:48:53.100 But there are certainly times where I receive reporting this way.
00:48:57.320 I had a phone again. I had a phone call last Sunday with a senior White House official, and that was an authorized communication.
00:49:05.460 So it's very possible that that these communications for Caputo were all were in fact authorized, in which case it would not be a prosecutable offense because it wouldn't be a leak.
00:49:15.520 It would be authorized. Given where we are and trying to get to some sort of a deal.
00:49:20.920 And the president just said the other day, because I think it's so frustrating that you don't know who you're dealing with across the table.
00:49:26.380 You don't know if they can execute and what they who they really represent and what kind of real power they have.
00:49:31.060 He just told CNBC yesterday, hey, if it happens, happens, doesn't, you know, I'm kind of getting bored.
00:49:35.220 I'm getting tired of it. Your thoughts about that, putting in context the conversation yesterday with with the Israeli high command.
00:49:44.680 Well, Steve, it's very clear the president is working hard for peace on this.
00:49:48.960 We saw the, you know, the 14 point plan that came out last weekend.
00:49:53.760 I had a long Twitter thread about this right around the same time Axios was putting out
00:49:58.360 their version of it.
00:49:59.400 I think my version had slightly more details, though.
00:50:01.720 So, you know, we can we can argue that over over coffee later, maybe at Butterworth's.
00:50:06.880 But the the idea being, though, of course, this question about nuclear enrichment that
00:50:11.020 the president does want to make sure is included.
00:50:13.600 And again, I was told by senior officials is absolutely being discussed in these documents.
00:50:20.320 And so what the president doesn't want right now is someone to derail this process.
00:50:25.120 So I see what I see are multiple lanes of progress that are going on in parallel.
00:50:30.200 You've got the diplomatic track.
00:50:31.820 That's where President Trump is.
00:50:33.440 He's on the diplomatic track saying, I want to get this deal done.
00:50:37.040 We think we're close to a deal.
00:50:38.420 And of course, he got Wyckoff.
00:50:39.540 He's got Kushner.
00:50:40.160 He's got his entire team there.
00:50:41.440 and then obviously Operation Economic Fury with Secretary Besant, the sanctions and others
00:50:47.640 also in line with that track. You've also got the military track. Now, on the military track,
00:50:52.440 you got the United States Navy, world's finest Navy. But who do you also have? The Iranian
00:50:56.100 hardliners, the IRGC. They feel like they've been pushed out of the decision-making process. So what
00:51:01.820 are they doing? They're trying to derail it, whatever they can, because they want to get
00:51:05.000 the war going again for their own purposes. Also, on the opposite side of the military track,
00:51:10.700 Now what do we have? The other front, we've got the southern Lebanon front, and we've got the
00:51:16.240 Israelis. We've got the IDF, of course, pushing up into those suburbs of Beirut. Now, of course, 0.63
00:51:21.320 they say, oh, these are Hezbollah strongholds. We're only targeting Hezbollah. But then you go 0.97
00:51:26.060 on social media and you see videos of soldiers smashing a crucifix of Jesus Christ, and you see
00:51:31.360 them going through Christian villages. And of course, Steve, I've come on here again and again
00:51:35.360 and said, we need to make sure that the Christians have a voice in this process, that no one is 0.95
00:51:42.320 talking about the Christians in these lands. And of course, President Trump's saying, wait a minute,
00:51:47.500 no, ceasefire includes you guys too. You're not going to be pushing into Beirut. You're not going
00:51:52.280 to be taking all this stuff while we're talking about actually holding peace because that's what
00:51:56.720 the Iranians say. And by the way, I've talked to other sources throughout the Gulf. That's what
00:52:00.940 they're saying as well. They say you've got hardliners in Israel, hardliners in Iran. And by
00:52:06.160 the way, it has to be said hardliners in the United States who are all trying to derail President
00:52:12.120 Trump's diplomatic process. Jack, you're the Associated Press of the MAGA movement. Where
00:52:17.600 do we go for your Twitter feed, sir? Yeah, we're up at Human Events Daily. Of course,
00:52:23.000 everyone knows at Jack Posobiec. We're on Getter. We're on Truth Social. We're on Telegram. We are
00:52:28.320 on x and of course the uh the podcast will be up at apple and spotify when everyone gets them out
00:52:35.520 huge by the way huge breaking news that we had there yesterday uh camera big win for human
00:52:39.920 events cameras will be allowed in the courtroom in the tyler robinson upcoming preliminary here
00:52:45.760 huge huge win for you sir jack basobiec thank you so much taking time away from the families
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