00:00:29.000I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:34.440Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:38.200If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:44.400War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bann.
00:00:52.640Tuesday, 2 June, Year of the Lord, 2026.
00:00:55.580Okay, I want to connect a couple of threads here.
00:00:57.260First off, about intel and being on top of things, Jim Rickards, as you know, a long-time contributor here to the show, came on Memorial Day.
00:01:08.880And the story he told about his father serving at seven, lying about his age to get into the United States Marine Corps in World War II and serving at Peleliu.
00:01:18.880And then we had the individual talk about Terawa, those two battles, two intense battles,
00:01:24.280and the effort to retrieve the bodies of our honored dead.
00:02:36.260Jenny Story and the team, they're just incredible leaders in the grassroots movement.
00:02:39.920the grassroots have moved the needle particularly on um proposition 10 the sharia prohibiting sharia
00:02:48.400law in the state of texas that has stirred up a hornet's nest down there as it should you had this
00:02:53.920event yesterday we'll get you more up to date on that in a little while but 972 patriot go shift
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00:03:03.520and find out about the christian values and the christian company that is patriot mobile amazing
00:03:08.640job as i tell folks when we went down and shifted the show then there for a couple of months at the
00:03:12.960beginning of the year um this situation with sharia law and the situation with um prop 10
00:03:19.600you know got 2 million votes just under 2 million votes with no money spent on it because of an
00:03:25.280outpouring of the grassroots and that led into really people i mean putting their shoulder to
00:03:30.080the wheel for ken paxton led to that tremendous victory uh with 61 39 over john over the
00:03:36.800the establishment candidate john cornyn uh after cornyn spent 150 million dollars trying to destroy
00:03:41.880ken paxton as i was down there for a couple of months i told folks one of the what the worm was
00:03:47.680able to do working with the grassroots leaders and patriot mobile and others is give a permission
00:03:52.720structure to have a discussion about this whole islamification and sharia law uh etc and people
00:04:00.200were just waiting they they the outpouring is that hey you know and this is why you had things
00:04:05.280like last night you get these school board meetings i mean people are really engaged in
00:04:08.580this fight now and they're not going to just let it they're not going to get rolled over
00:04:11.520but i was down there i told folks i said right below this issue with islam just right below it
00:04:17.960is this issue with h1b visas and in texas and particularly places like frisco texas and others
00:04:23.900it's a real issue and it's going to become an issue that's going to be more and more prominent
00:04:29.020in american politics this is one of the reasons we fought so hard about basically getting rid of
00:04:35.020entire program now for years uh and been part of the rosemary jinx and eli crane's great bill and
00:04:40.020all that ambassador carla sans joins us she's got a tremendous piece in the washington times today
00:04:45.580about this issue ambassador just take us through it i mean the washington times has got one of the
00:04:50.560most prominent uh op-ed pages around they really do a great job over there uh they've published
00:04:56.500you this morning walk us through the whole walk us through your entire argument that american
00:05:00.940companies should hire, wait for it, American citizens. Sure, Steve. Thank you. And certainly
00:05:07.440the members of Congress and their staffs read the Washington Times. And a lot of our warm room
00:05:14.460posse, I think, read it as well because they want to stay up on what's happening on Capitol Hill
00:05:19.320and in the Washington, D.C. area. And one of the big issues for Americans in this 250th anniversary
00:05:26.220is the idea that companies should hire Americans and not foreign labor. And Steve, this goes back
00:05:33.760decades, right? This was the big manufacturing shift in my youth and then in my young adulthood,
00:05:41.080how I saw cities and towns across our Rust Belt states, especially just hollow out,
00:05:48.140because manufacturing moved mostly to Asia and the company towns would just kind of collapse.
00:05:54.400And the same thing is now starting to happen where we're losing more of our middle class because more foreigners are being hired within the United States, but also companies are hiring them outside of the United States.
00:06:08.500The number one recipients of visas in the United States are Indians by far.
00:06:13.560It's about 80 percent of the H-1B visa recipients and other visa holders.
00:06:19.420And we have a lot of visa holders, United States visa holders. The Indians by far outstrip all others. And Indians as a group make about twice the income per capita as American citizens.1.00
00:06:35.760So American-born person versus Indian immigrant, the Indian immigrant household's making about twice as much.
00:06:43.060And I think it's because we come, American-born people, from a high-trust society, and it's part of our Judeo-Christian background.
00:06:51.340We're largely, you know, we don't have fraud in America typically.
00:06:55.720People are, you know, we follow the Ten Commandments typically, and we do unto others as we'd have them do unto us.1.00
00:07:02.980And what happens is when you get foreign cultures coming in that are based on corruption, they bring the corruption with them.1.00
00:07:10.240And so these visa holders often have to pay the person that gets them the job five or 10 percent of their salary into perpetuity or they cheat and they have fake diplomas.1.00
00:07:21.760They pay for them in India. A ring was just busted that had sold 100000 fake degrees, mostly in STEM.0.83
00:07:29.480And a lot of them were medical degrees. So you could go to a doctor from India who doesn't even hasn't even studied medicine is a fake doctor.
00:07:37.860So what you want to do, I think, is all of us ask our representatives, but also companies in your hometown, please hire Americans.
00:07:47.560This is a patriotic duty to hire the American people and let ourselves, but also our kids and grandkids have a chance at the American dream.
00:07:56.920And in the op-ed, Steve, we don't demonize Indians. There are good, honest Indians that have come into the United States as legal immigrants, haven't gamed the system, haven't cheated. We welcome immigrants, but a lot of people would like to pause immigration while we let the American-born people get off the sidelines and get good-paying jobs. That's the goal, especially in this 250th anniversary. Why not be patriotic?
00:08:26.920You talk about a high-trust society, but the H-1B visas were supposed to be with people that for each billet, you had to justify either educational and or experience, job experience, that they could not find a worker in the United States, particularly when it came to STEM.
00:08:48.500We know that that is just a bald-faced lie.
00:08:50.860In my fight on this for years, I've asked, please come and show me any billet of the millions that have come here
00:08:56.440that either has an educational requirement or a professional requirement that can't be met by a U.S. worker.
00:09:04.900One time somebody came and said, well, look, we think it was something that a guy in France could do something.
00:09:09.180But then when I asked more details, it kind of faded away.
00:10:22.160Because clearly the tech business overlords that are doing this know exactly what they're doing, and they're not going to back off.
00:10:29.800What would you recommend that is the next step in trying to make sure that – because I say, look, it should be a hiatus of at least a decade on all immigration, legal immigration, quote-unquote.
00:10:40.500and the HB1 program should be terminated immediately.
00:10:43.420What would be your thoughts on what we should do?
00:10:46.900Well, Steve, there's a guy, Tyler Oliveira, who exposed, kind of like Nick Shirley,
00:10:51.680that there's these big industrial parks that have nobody in them.0.98
00:10:55.760They're all empty, but they're supposed to be the place that these H-1B visa workers work.
00:11:03.820And it's to allow the big tech companies to say, oh, we're not hiring more H-1B visa holders, but they're sort of outsourcing them. So there's all kinds of things they're doing. There's even charts in our op-ed that I wrote with Samantha Flanagan about this.
00:11:20.200And what we say is, okay, they're laying off this many thousands of American workers, but they're hiring this many hundreds or thousands of visa holders. And the visa holders aren't just H-1B. They can kind of slide between different kinds of visas so that they can stay.
00:11:37.200And if they stay about two and a half cycles of a visa, they can apply for a green card.
00:11:43.260And then soon after that, they can apply for citizenship and they can bring their whole family.
00:11:47.280And what's happening is the Indians specifically, and I'm not talking about all Indians, but this group specifically are helping each other in chat rooms with the answers to questions, helping with the person.
00:11:59.980If they're an Indian HR manager, they're bringing in all Indians or all Indians from their own caste system or from their own region.
00:12:08.120Like everybody's from Punjab. Everybody's from one area and their friends and family that they're hiring.0.98
00:12:14.820And that's illegal in America. In America, you're supposed to hire the most qualified person and you're not allowed to use things like nepotism or, you know, backroom deals.
00:12:25.060That's not allowed. And so another issue, Steve, is in real estate where they're gaming the system.
00:12:31.480You know, we have brokers on each side of the deal and they're saying, no, I want a kickback of X.
00:12:36.320And this has been happening for years in the United States. So we we need these people to be prosecuted, Steve.
00:12:42.020And we talk about it in the article that we think they should get the maximum of 10 years in prison if they game the system and take jobs away from American citizens.0.69
00:12:52.140You know, I was the ambassador to Denmark and in Denmark, they have Danes in those jobs. They prioritize the people of their country. It's very rare that they bring in an outside even CEO. They do it now and then for talent, but that's when they're extraordinary talents.
00:13:08.920But almost all the people you see them hiring are Danish because they want they want to build up their their country.
00:13:16.120And I think that's important in the United States. And I think there should be pressure on these companies.0.70
00:13:20.920If they're American companies, you hire American.
00:13:24.240And I think President Trump can be a really big voice in this, telling these CEOs, we want you to hire American.
00:13:31.340He is making America great again. He's bringing in all these foreign trillions of dollars and building up America, reindustrializing. We want those new jobs to go to Americans. We don't want and we need to train them. That's another issue that the government is working on as fast as they can.
00:13:48.640Secretary Linda McMahon doing so much tech, sort of tech and manufacturing, upscaling, because people need to be able to, they don't make widgets on a factory floor anymore.
00:14:01.940They're working a keyboard on a computer because manufacturing today looks so different.0.81
00:14:06.760But we need to upscale our workers and we need to hire American as we rebuild in every industry.
00:14:13.080I mean, whether it's shipbuilding, shipmaking, like all these things, we need great American workers.
00:14:36.560The American people need to be well-served, not ill-served by our big, great companies.
00:14:41.300Thank you, Ambassador. Appreciate you. Appreciate the peace in The Washington Times. Let's get all on it and push it out. American jobs for American workers. We're going to talk about tech next and data centers in the war room.
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00:16:35.920I told you in going around and doing the work in Texas about Islamification, the bill on the proposition, Proposition 10, also the situation with the H-1B visas.
00:16:51.700We just had the ambassador on permission structure to talk about that.
00:16:57.620But as I go around and we take the show around, I will tell you one of the biggest, hottest, most contentious issues in the country is like we had the folks from Florida on a couple of weeks ago about the four million square foot data centers being built.
00:19:10.400That could all be stopped immediately.
00:19:12.620Can you walk us through this article? Because what's concerning about it is just basic citizens like the people in Florida that went to the that went to this this town council meeting and then the planning commission.
00:19:26.320We had folks on here and people were running a little hot on this.
00:19:29.300And you could see how they could be interpreted by law enforcement as being anti-AI extremists, and they're not.
00:19:37.620They're just American citizens, everyday common working men and women who don't want a 4 million square foot data center put into a town of 5,000 people in Central Florida, sir.
00:19:51.360Sure. So thanks for having me on, Steve.
00:19:53.060So like you said, this is a wildly unpopular development across America.
00:19:57.180A recent Gallup poll had seven out of 10 Americans across the political spectrum rejecting new data centers in their neighborhoods.
00:20:05.260But nonetheless, the government, both federally in the Department of Homeland Security and FBI and in their sort of state nodules across the country called fusion centers, which we can get into later, are circulating documents describing protesters, activists, local citizens using their constitutional rights to say, hey, whether it's a city council meeting, whether it's a planning board meeting, saying we don't want these extractive technologies in our neighborhood.
00:20:33.320But those organizations, those individuals are now being thrown into a huge dragnet under the category of anti-technology extremism.
00:20:43.800So whether that's people posting jokes online or on forums, you know, saying, man, I hope this thing overheats and blows up so we don't have to stare at it every day and hear the hum, you know, pulsating through our bones.
00:20:56.060or whether it's just mom and pop, store owners, farmers, you name it, organizing to show up to
00:21:03.100their local town hall to say, we don't want this in our community. Those people are being surveilled.
00:21:09.340Those people are being criminalized. And so my report was based on a large tranche of documents
00:21:14.860showing this new threat category taking place. I want to go to the threat category and how
00:21:20.040people are identified because in Florida, in Texas, particularly West Texas, where you talk
00:21:25.800about water coming from the aquifers in arizona i mean folks are getting worked up on this and one
00:21:30.580of the reasons they're getting worked up is the example in florida that they are playing by the
00:21:35.400rules you know they're going to town council they're going to open mic they they bring the
00:21:40.700evidence they they bring documents uh they go in front of it they speak then they're told with this
00:21:46.060we don't really have the decision that's a planning commission they go to the planning commission
00:21:49.520they spend all night and then uh the planning commission votes five to nothing and they don't
00:21:55.260know if these guys are being paid by the big tech companies etc so what are the requirements in
00:22:00.100your reporting in the documents you have what are like the requirements as you have the fbi dhs etc
00:22:06.720what is the requirements of someone's an extremist is an extremist someone that goes
00:22:12.160and plays by the rules and goes to a town council but it's pretty heated in the meeting and saying
00:22:16.980hey we don't want this and we're going to fight this tooth and nail well it remains to be seen
00:22:22.800Exactly. There have been a lot of suspicious instances, like you mentioned, of local residents getting up to speak in these town council meetings and going five seconds over and immediately being snatched off the stage by law enforcement.
00:22:34.900To me, that says that those law enforcement officers have probably been briefed and probably seen these types of threat materials circulating down from the feds into the fusion centers and to their local and state PD.
00:22:46.500But in terms of requirements, I mean, we've seen this time and time again. It's a point I try to make to the left and the right, which is that when the administration turns over in four or eight years or what have you, the same apparatus that is creating targeting for the so-called extremist threat, which is almost always people with the exception of real serious terrorists,
00:23:09.560Those categories are often broadened to include people who are advocating for deeply held beliefs loudly in a way that doesn't always mesh well with the rest of society.
00:23:20.680Now, are those people terrorists? No, those people are just expressing their beliefs. But whether it's, you know, right wing extremism and supporters of Donald Trump who got got caught up under this whole right wing extremist label, whether it's environmental activists, you know, in the in the early 2000s or the 2010s saying, you know, we don't we don't want this pipeline.
00:23:40.040We don't want this factory in our community. These people get labeled under this post 9-11
00:23:45.060terrorism framework. And the people who ultimately benefit are the corporations that have the direct
00:23:51.900line who have the red phone to DHS and FBI. Take a look at the example of Kevin O'Leary,
00:23:58.020Mr. Wonderful, who's trying to build a just astronomically large data center in Utah.
00:24:04.680He got on the horn. He got on MSNBC, CNN, all these outlets. And he said,
00:24:08.780anyone standing up to my data center is a Chinese agent. You know, these are suburban housewives1.00
00:24:15.280organizing to stop this. And he's saying, I contacted the FBI. I contacted the DHS. I had
00:24:20.700my private goon squad, you know, investigate them. And I've decided that they're Chinese agents. So0.93
00:24:25.900really what we're seeing, you talk about these people trying to use the resources available in
00:24:31.340their democracy to advocate for their God-given rights by showing up to the city council meetings.
00:24:36.060But what you have is the AI companies and the data center executives being given complete priority access to city counselors and to the federal agencies that are formulating threat categories, labeling normal citizens as threats.
00:24:55.240When you said local guys, as soon as your time's up, they cut the mic off and a local authority or police officer says, OK, your time's up.
00:25:30.600So in the immediate aftermath of 9-11, there were discussions about how to ensure that a terrorist attack like that could never happen again.
00:25:38.120Now, for people who know the history there well, both the CIA and FBI at the time had actionable intelligence about the hijackers.
00:25:46.660And for various reasons, compartmentalization, intra-agency politics, they were not able to share that information in a timely way and in a way in which it was taken seriously.
00:25:56.680The government's response was to both create the Department of Homeland Security as an overarching protective intelligence agency for domestic threats, but they simultaneously created a vast network of information-sharing hubs called fusion centers, which, in my opinion, completely violate states' rights and the ability for states to govern themselves.
00:26:17.140These are basically, as I like to describe them, nodules attached on usually to state police organizations that serve as a two-way street between local and state police and these federal agencies.
00:26:32.520But what inevitably ends up happening is they are sort of terrified by the threats that are cooked up by the federal government.
00:26:39.920And then also, unfortunately, what you sometimes have is, you know, older law enforcement officers who aren't necessarily up to speed on how the kids are talking online, you know, trying to play super spy and picking up random keywords about data centers and all of a sudden saying, hey, this is a terrorist threat.
00:26:56.500these guys at the city council are using language that I'm not familiar with. Maybe they're trying
00:27:01.740to blow something up. So it creates a sense of heightened paranoia, and it totally diminishes
00:27:06.700the gap between the federal government and states' ability to protect their own people,
00:27:11.820their own states. And that's where a lot of these reports that I laid out and that I obtained were
00:27:18.140circulating. And it shows the way that the federal government, who's liaisoning with all these
00:27:22.520companies are able to invent this new threat category. They're able to juice it up all the
00:27:27.300way to 11 and then shoot it out to states all over the country. And then what do we see? We see
00:27:31.780state troopers arresting people at city council meetings for standing up for their rights.
00:27:36.840Daniel, we got to bounce, but I'm going to talk to you after. I want to have you back in a more
00:27:40.340because I want to go to O'Leary. I want to talk about the CCP. I want to talk about some of these
00:27:43.800extremist groups that have been identified in your piece and this other piece you wrote with Ken
00:27:48.080about Capitol Hill. What is your social media right now? Where do people go and get this
00:27:52.240article where they get your other writings uh they can find me on twitter at dr bogus law and
00:27:56.940i wrote a substat called deeper states dan thank you so much for coming on here bogus law amazing
00:28:04.560piece over and wired we look forward i'll talk to you after the show look forward to seeing you
00:28:07.720back here tomorrow a lot more to drill down on this plus other pieces these data centers
00:28:13.060got to be dealt with have to be dealt with you saw what happened in florida and that's
00:28:18.500happening throughout the country. Citizens show up, 100%, don't want it. Planning commissions,
00:28:23.300town council go, hey, suck on this. Everyone's focused on how the conflict in the Middle East0.99
00:28:28.160is raising oil prices, but there's another grim reality to this contention. Oil isn't the only
00:28:34.980resource being constrained. About one-third of global fertilizer trade happens through this
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00:28:45.740with some saying they can't afford to plant their fields.
00:28:49.360When one piece of the supply chain gets hit this hard,
00:28:52.420you know what comes next, higher food prices,
00:28:55.480reduced availability, maybe even panic buying.
00:28:58.560That's why having an emergency food supply at home
00:45:10.340Okay, we just learned and we're going to get more details.
00:45:12.780The White House has announced that they did sign the executive order that we talked about and fought so hard about, the one that got pulled a couple weeks ago.