00:02:44.060This is live right now on Capitol Hill.
00:02:47.000But a bigger meltdown today, as we kind of imagined in the war room, Jack Posobiec and I, the announcement of Wild Bill Pulte has the Democrats, the deep state, the establishment Republicans totally and completely vapor locked.
00:03:03.480We've got a cold open related to this.
00:03:08.180The federal housing official has no known experience in national intelligence and has used his office repeatedly to go after the president's perceived political foes.
00:03:17.960A short time ago, the administrator for the U.S. Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, Dr. Mehmet Oz, held a White House briefing where he was asked about Pulte's qualifications.
00:05:42.240And we have a shifting of resources in FBI, even in CIA.
00:05:48.320But just because those organizations work well individually doesn't mean that that combination
00:05:55.200of things. And this is where the problem is going to come. And to me, Pulte is a divisive
00:06:01.800figure. CIA might not want to share information with somebody that has no background. Already,
00:06:10.040ODNI wasn't getting along with FBI because under Tulsi Gabbard, they wanted access to a database
00:06:16.780that was about counterintelligence, but that had all Americans' information in it, which is not
00:06:22.820what the foreign intelligence should do. And FBI said no. Donald Trump has outdid himself. I didn't
00:06:28.080think it was possible to find someone less qualified than Tulsi Gabbard to be director
00:06:32.000of national intelligence, but Trump actually has. And so this is the person who serves as the
00:06:38.080president's principal intelligence advisor. That's in statute. That's in law. And so what signal does
00:06:44.000this send? First of all, to places like Russia, China, Iran, North Korea. It shows a total
00:06:49.440disregard and disrespect for the whole intelligence community in the United States? What signal does
00:06:55.440it send to our allies and partners? Trump does not care about intelligence. He puts someone like this
00:07:00.060wholly unqualified without any intelligence experience to be the head of the 18 intelligence
00:07:04.960agencies to try to orchestrate them, to make sure that they are delivering for the American people
00:07:09.240and national security. And what message does it send to the workforce of the intelligence community?
00:07:14.480He cares so little about the intelligence community. He puts somebody, someone like a
00:07:18.860Bill Pulte, who's a charter member of the Trump Lick Spittle Club, has no qualifications whatsoever to actually be the leader for these, you know, number of days or whatever.
00:07:29.640And yes, he doesn't have to be confirmed by the Senate.
00:07:32.320But again, the signal it sends to our adversaries, to our allies, to the workforce, it shows that Trump is really intent, not just on disregarding the work of the intelligence community, but I think really destroying it.
00:07:44.600He is. He's the most. This is a person. There's never been somebody with this little experience being nominated for a cabinet level job in the history of the republic.
00:07:55.920And that includes the secretary of war. That was a former weekend talk show host. Right.
00:08:00.240I mean, at least he takes up was in the military. Bill Pulte has no experience about this at all.
00:08:06.340Calling a political hack is even kind of too kind to him.
00:09:03.820I certainly hope that the appointment of Bill Pulte over there, while Bill, is a time where the DNI can actually start digging in on the domestic side of terrorism as well as the international.
00:09:17.800Oh, it has to. I think that's one of the reasons Pulte is selected, because Pulte will go there.
00:09:26.900digging in on the domestic side you know i went back in time nicole uh and like four years ago
00:09:33.100i came on your program to talk about one of my biggest worries that i know tim shared i certainly
00:09:38.580know the director shared which is that in a second term donald trump would use the spy powers of the
00:09:44.320federal government for revenge the writing was on the wall why because donald trump was the one
00:09:50.900holding the sharpie doing the writing i remember in his first term i can tell you when this happened
00:09:56.700And October of 2018, I remember getting a phone call from John Kelly, who was White House chief of staff, talking about how Donald Trump had been spouting off about the need to monitor the phones of White House staff.
00:10:12.120He wanted to tap the phones of his employees. Why? Because he was worried they were saying bad things about him to each other and to the media.
00:10:20.480John Kelly didn't need to worry about executing that order because he was never going to break the law to spy on White House staff on behalf of Donald Trump.
00:10:35.400And I've always said that the only reason Donald Trump wasn't able to abuse the spy powers of the federal government to fulfill his revenge designs is the people under him weren't willing to go to prison for him, at least at that period of time.
00:10:49.340Now it's apparent that Donald Trump has found the type of acolytes who are clearly more than willing to do things that could get someone, a reasonable person, thrown into prison and to put people like that inside of the spy community.
00:12:32.560Let's talk about Ukraine, the attack on 7 October in Gaza,
00:12:38.000Then the Gaza war, the Israelis, the Iran war, the miscalculation that the CIA had about the strategic bombing leading to a mass revolt of the people.
00:12:53.840We can talk about how they've underestimated what they were doing, all the political machinations they're making all the way from the Western Pacific all the way back into the United States on our border.
00:13:06.000and then look at everything internationally.
00:13:08.320The CIA has botched, botched, and botched, and botched.
00:19:23.760Let's play it, and then Joe's going to come on board.
00:19:25.200The movie Minority Report scared me when it came out, but I ultimately felt better because I knew that a future like that with precogs was far-fetched and not real.
00:19:37.560Except now it might be real because AI might be making a real-life version of Minority Report possible without the need for mutant humans lying in goo and hooked up to a surveillance database.
00:19:49.980New reporting from the New York Times details leaked documents from a Chinese company called Giege Networks with secret research on AI-powered technology that would enable authoritarian governments to not just monitor dissidents, but to potentially predict who could become a dissident in the future.
00:20:11.080Researchers at Vanderbilt say location data and Internet usage could help AI predict who in the future could do or say something critical of the government.
00:20:22.740In other words, the stuff of dystopian nightmares like Minority Report.
00:20:27.340China has been working on technology like this for years, but it was more of a theory or a pipe dream than a possibility.
00:20:33.320which you know does make the need for ai regulation even more necessary as if all the
00:20:46.820is scary for china an authoritarian state to have the ability to predict future dissidents
00:20:53.260but isn't it also scary to think our government could have access to it as well we're not exactly
00:20:59.680living through the most stable moment democracy is holding but you can you can't argue it has
00:21:05.780not been eroded that civil liberties have not been violated is a government even ours using
00:21:11.440intelligence like this so far-fetched or should we have been paying closer attention to screenwriters
00:21:18.680over the years screenwriters who've imagined this kind of thing that we've been building right now
00:21:25.080but the oligarchs got it and they're definitely going to use it joe allen where do we stand after
00:21:31.120president signed an executive order without a lot of fanfare privately signed it boom i understand
00:21:36.500they were working late last night in the white house to get this done the ink just dried as he
00:21:41.700signed it what do you got for sir well steve i gotta say first off that it's pretty cute that
00:21:47.560ms now whatever you call it uh that they've just discovered the dystopian potential for technology
00:21:53.740If viewers will remember throughout Biden's administration, they didn't seem very concerned at all other than the possibility that AI would be racist, sexist and homophobic.
00:22:04.480So even as people are being locked down, contact traced, forced to be vaccinated, they weren't really concerned.
00:22:10.520But now suddenly they are. Maybe it'll be a net positive in the end.
00:22:14.700The executive order, the executive order has been signed this morning.
00:22:21.220The executive order is entitled Promoting Artificial Intelligence, Innovation and Security, or to correct myself, Promoting Advanced Artificial Intelligence, Innovation and Security, which is actually an important difference.
00:22:35.600This is targeting only the frontier models, and it is not that dissimilar from the draft that was circulating in previous days, but there are a few differences.
00:22:49.520Just like the original draft that was the subject of so much commentary, it's focused on two basic elements.
00:22:57.440One is securing critical infrastructure on a cybersecurity level.
00:23:01.980So ensuring that hospitals, dams, utilities, all these sorts of things are not vulnerable to AI generated cyber attacks or any cyber attack for that matter.
00:23:14.100And then the second portion is to identify which AI models produced at the frontier.
00:23:21.980So that would be models produced by Google, XAI, OpenAI, and Anthropic, which models are
00:23:29.000qualified, which qualify as frontier models, meaning the most advanced capabilities.
00:23:35.460These benchmarks are going to be determined by the Department of Treasury.
00:23:39.900So Scott Besant and then a huge web work of other agencies, NSA, DHS, Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency.
00:23:51.980And, of course, the Department of War, the Department of Commerce is also involved.
00:23:57.900And that may mean that Casey, the Center for AI Security and Innovation, will be in.
00:24:03.320But another really important thing, though, Steve, one important thing, this it also there was an allowance made.
00:24:10.960One of the big concerns, the original version would put U.S. companies behind because of the length of the review.
00:24:17.580This executive order, it is voluntary, but on a voluntary basis, companies are asked to submit their models to the review process for 30 days before deployment.
00:24:30.240um so the oligarchs didn't want this sign this is what happened is you know sacks was working
00:24:39.680on every turn of this document and this document does not have in it everything we wanted as far
00:24:45.620as the content but it's got a structure and at least the beginning of a process
00:24:49.360when elon musk and zuckerberg and this crowd even knew it was on paper that's how it got pulled at
00:24:55.160the last second, okay? Boom. They don't want anything to be codified, certainly in laws up
00:25:00.440on Capitol Hill, but particularly in any type of hint to a regulatory apparatus. Now it's out,
00:25:06.200and at least it gives a structure. The NSA is involved. Scott Bessent is very involved in this,
00:25:12.280which they didn't want. It's not mandatory, which we wanted. It's voluntary. Got that,
00:25:18.700at least at the start. It's not 90 days that the miles have to be turned over, but it's not the
00:25:24.30012 days, there was in the last draft, it's 30 days. And there's no, I think you would say it's
00:25:29.300kind of shambolic about what actually is the process it goes through for review. And they
00:25:36.380never use the word approval, right? So what's that going through? That's not there. But it gets
00:25:41.280everybody working together. Saks is already out, you know, saying, I'm looking forward so much to
00:25:46.460working with Scott Besson and NSA and others, the very guys he was trying to throw off. So it's the
00:25:52.540first time that we have actually a structure, Joe, and a little bit of a process, and we're going to
00:25:57.760keep hammering to make sure that the structure is better and the process is better. So I think
00:26:02.680net-net, this is far from perfect, but directionally, at least we've got something we can
00:26:07.980work with. Joe Allen, your thoughts and commentary on that, sir? Yeah, this is absolutely the first
00:26:15.620major step. I mean, this really marks a point where the administration has turned from the
00:26:20.880open accelerationist approach so that Sachs has obviously dominated the administration's approach
00:26:27.360up to this point, calling for no regulation whatsoever on industry and even trying to squash
00:26:32.680state regulation. So it's too soon for a victory lap, but it's definitely time to start hammering
00:26:39.380because this is a first step. This is directed at cybersecurity. There are a lot of other issues
00:26:45.360that are going to have to be tackled from child protection to deepfakes to copyright protection,
00:26:49.600of course, bioweapons and autonomous lethal weapons, all of these sorts of things. But
00:26:54.360this is a major turn on the part of the administration. It's unfortunate that it is
00:27:01.000so much focused, the regulation process and the review process is so focused on the intelligence
00:27:08.400community and a classified benchmarking process, meaning that it's not transparent to the wider
00:27:13.620public but again this is better than nothing because before we had nothing and i think in
00:27:21.600the future steve going forward we're just going to look at what does it mean to have a voluntary
00:27:25.640mandate i think we'll really find out when there comes a time when a company is on the chopping
00:27:32.320block did they submit for review or not and if they did what does that mean for accountability
00:27:37.940joe just hang on for one second i'll hold you just for a minute or two on the other side
00:27:42.340philip patrick's going to join us if you saw the drudge mac daddy today uh huge uh in red letters
00:27:48.820about uh gold replacing u.s treasuries as the investment for the world community we've talked
00:27:55.140about you for a couple of months but it's now been uh it's now been actually in print with the daily
00:28:00.980telegraph of london we're gonna take a short break joe allen's gonna be with us take your phone out
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00:29:56.240major defeat for the acceleration list today more than a speed bump uh we're going to help
00:30:02.380refine this as we go forward uh joe um any closing thoughts you're going to be up on joe bot with
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00:30:20.460latest article on the pope's encyclical on that note steve you know this is i think really
00:30:26.420important how this is all coming together at once. You've got the Pope head of a 1.4 billion
00:30:32.800strong religious organization coming out and at least criticizing the excesses of AI and alerting
00:30:40.700his laity and his bishops and priests, alerting them to the dangers of AI and saying you need to,
00:30:48.900at the very least, moderate your use and be suspicious of those who are creating it and
00:30:54.700deploying it simultaneously you now have uh the trump administration and the wider and a lot of
00:31:00.920agencies in the wider federal government who are saying we hear that you're concerned about these
00:31:06.400dangers we are to we are going to do something about it and you know as you said there is a lot
00:31:14.440more to do but i think you know the danger that people point out and i think this is this is
00:31:18.940Correct. The danger is in both cases, the encyclical and this executive order, that it will make people complacent.
00:31:25.980They'll say, OK, it's all taken care of. Everything is fine. That is a possibility.
00:31:29.680But it's only possible if people stop fighting.
00:31:32.880And I don't think that any of our partners, any of our colleagues are going to stop fighting.
00:31:38.060So really, as long as people keep pushing forward, both of these things are signs that this is not necessarily an overwhelming problem.
00:31:47.380And the writer from Wired Magazine is going to join us for part two of his expose about this calling people standing up to the data centers, AI, extremist terrorists, whatever.
00:31:59.060We'll get to more of that and what's going on.
00:32:01.780No, you don't want to – you can't overregulate this.1.00
00:32:04.680But the oligarchs brought this on themselves.
00:32:06.420I mean these people that are on the spectrum wanted absolutely no controls whatsoever.
00:32:45.260Okay, our function here at the War Room is to be a platform for you to use your agency to its maximum.
00:32:54.340And one of the ways we do that is make sure you have access to information about how the world works months, if not years, before that information is really promulgated.
00:33:06.100And I realize some of the show is like eating your spinach.
00:33:09.000We don't chase a lot of the trendy, you know, fun stories.
00:33:11.440It's just not, we don't have time for it.
00:33:13.040And quite frankly, with our republic hanging in the balance and now homo sapiens hanging in the balance, we just don't have time for it or focus.
00:33:21.380Philip Patrick, today, Drudge, and Drudge was there to put all the mainstream media, how they're beating up Trump.
00:33:27.060The mac daddy of Drudge was that big headline.
00:33:30.020Had it, if we can put it up, guys, had it right there about how gold, you look down there at the third red headline,
00:33:37.600Gold has replaced U.S. Treasuries as the stop of major money, of smart money throughout the world.
00:33:46.380And that was a link to the Daily Telegraph, not the Financial Times, the Daily Telegraph, although the FT is following this too.
00:33:52.300If we can go to the Daily Telegraph headline.
00:33:56.120Philip Patrick, you went to Brazil a year ago to represent us on the Rio Reset.
00:34:01.860Then you came back, and I think it was in September, October, November, we started talking, and you said, hey, look, these central banks are on a roll buying, continue to buy in gold, right?
00:34:13.360They're very concerned about the drop in the purchasing power.
00:34:17.000It got crushed on Biden, but they're still concerned about this.
00:36:15.640That situation now has clearly reversed.
00:36:18.160And the reason why isn't complicated, right? Trust is being repriced now globally. Central banks are starting to ask the questions. What happens when dollar reserves get weaponized? What happens when U.S. debt is growing faster than the economy?
00:36:34.260There was a recent survey done amongst top central bankers, and the survey showed that geopolitical risk has now surged to the top of reserve managers' concerns.