Bannon's War Room - Episode 5419： Cults Grow Against AI; The A-La-Carte War

00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:00:07.000 Pray for our enemies.

00:00:09.000 Because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:12.000 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:16.000 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:18.000 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:20.000 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:00:22.000 but you're not going to stop it.

00:00:23.000 It's going to happen.

00:00:24.000 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:00:27.000 MAGA Media.

00:00:29.000 wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task

00:00:36.340 and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:00:44.200 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:00:47.620 Wednesday, 3 June, Year of the Lord, 2026.

00:00:56.300 So I've got Daniel Boguslaw who's going to join us back.

00:00:59.380 He was on yesterday from Wired.

00:01:00.680 We were talking about data centers and things that are going on on surveillance

00:01:04.240 and, you know, designating people certain things

00:01:07.780 because they're standing up for data centers.

00:01:10.700 We're going to get to all that.

00:01:12.080 Also, Tom Simon is going to join me here in a moment.

00:01:14.840 We're going to talk about artificial intelligence and cyber

00:01:17.300 and other threats specifically focused on your title and your home's titles

00:01:23.880 to make sure it can't get stolen and monetized.

00:01:26.940 About the process, President Trump, we had this executive order sign yesterday,

00:01:32.980 and this is about process, about doing things.

00:01:34.500 President Trump is very much sided up to date with the tech bros

00:01:38.960 in making sure that there's no encumbrance so that we can't lose our advantage,

00:01:43.980 our competitive advantage over the chinese communist party and of that i'm 100 supportive 0.97

00:01:49.420 of however i do believe we have to shut down the ecosystem of the chinese communist party then 0.96

00:01:54.700 they're not going to be that big a threat they're just not because they're either stealing from us 0.94

00:01:58.940 we're selling it to them or we're training them and educating them but the key is about the process

00:02:06.620 uh president trump is taking this a long way because now there's a structure and a process

00:02:09.980 And from our perspective, it ain't perfect.

00:02:13.300 It's voluntary, not mandatory.

00:02:15.400 It's 30 days, not 90 days.

00:02:17.300 There's no real system for approval of the other side.

00:02:21.980 But it's a huge, it's the first time it's ever been on paper,

00:02:25.300 which is why Elon and these people wanted to kill it, 0.76

00:02:28.440 and Zuckerberg wanted to kill it.

00:02:31.160 But it's a process, and it's going to be a continual process

00:02:34.040 to refine it and see what works and what doesn't work.

00:02:36.960 Secretary of Treasury, Besant, is very involved in this.

00:02:39.980 now by name, you know, by billet, also NSA. Now, why is that? Because when this whole thing started

00:02:46.680 with Anthropic and the release of this Mythos preview, the money center banks came right away

00:02:54.040 to the Federal Reserve chair and to Scott Besson over Treasury and said, hey, look, given our

00:02:58.900 safeguards and what we're seeing, you know, you may be, you may take down a money center bank in

00:03:04.260 like two minutes two minutes that got Besson who's a pretty safe pair of hands and a guy that doesn't

00:03:11.300 run around with his hair on fire got his attention and so this process has started but it's like the

00:03:17.440 process of all these things the president's doing and this is what you know why does the president

00:03:22.400 have to be engaged in this and it's like he had to rewrite the thing get the staff to rewrite it

00:03:26.220 why he's got enough on his shoulders if he wants a Bill Pulte then he should get a Bill Pulte

00:03:32.300 and we're not thrilled by all the guys the second wave in the cabinet as you know we went fixed

00:03:38.320 bad notes on the on the first wave to make sure that they all got approved and i keep saying

00:03:41.800 gates could have gotten approved have been they've been ugly but have been approved

00:03:45.440 but it's all a process and that's why there's this there needs to be a sense of urgency now

00:03:51.200 as the president works on everything and people ought to be sitting there going what what can we

00:03:54.640 take off of his plate why does he have to whip votes in south carolina for redistricting why

00:04:00.380 does he have to whip votes in uh in uh in louisiana why why does he have to be involved in

00:04:05.800 you know everything's going on in fulton county and what the intelligence community's finding out

00:04:10.140 there about the votes he we're in the middle of a war hopefully we're towards the end of this war

00:04:15.860 but he's got enough on his enough on his plate that people got to step up and pitch in and say

00:04:22.140 no i'll take that i got that let's do it and support him when he says hey i think i need this

00:04:28.380 guy give your best advice and then support him if he says i hear it right you know maybe pulte

00:04:34.280 didn't go to uh you know graduate maybe he didn't go to the farm right down and uh down at fort

00:04:41.640 uses is it they'll go to the farm and uh and get trained up but he's fine i like the cut of his

00:04:47.240 jib and i like what he did over the housing thing i particularly like what he did the mortgage fraud

00:04:50.960 and he's my guy this eo is very important it starts a process for the first time why because

00:04:57.760 of the fear of artificial intelligence combined with cyber.

00:05:03.180 The guys, the top oligarchs saying, hey, we don't even know where this thing could head.

00:05:07.140 That's why you get Scott Besson, you got Jamie Dimon, you get the staff over the Federal

00:05:11.780 Reserve, you get people saying, whoa, maybe this could take down our financial system.

00:05:15.620 We got to get on top of this.

00:05:18.300 Tom Simon, you join us now.

00:05:19.820 You spent 26 years with the FBI.

00:05:21.440 My concern here for our audience is about something as as a basic as your home title, because it's a very rudimentary system throughout the country.

00:05:31.180 And so when Scott Besson and the chairman of the Federal Reserve and Jamie Dimon and four or five money center bank guys who are here for the IMF meeting say, hey, give us an hour, buy us a cup of coffee.

00:05:40.980 We want to come over and talk to you. And they're saying in the meeting, yeah, you know, it could take down an entire bank in like 60 seconds.

00:05:47.800 We then have a problem, and the average person out there has a big problem when it comes to protection of their assets, particularly the one that's 90% of their net worth, their home title.

00:05:59.340 What do you got for, sir?

00:06:00.920 Well, you know, just like you said, that AI is here to stay.

00:06:04.840 It's not – you can't put that genie back in the bottle, and my preoccupation is home title theft and the idea that already we have a situation where the county clerk's offices are rather asleep at the wheel, right?

00:06:16.360 They're just rubber stamping anything that comes in, transferring the ownership of your home and my home to whatever con man decides to submit the documents.

00:06:23.760 But let's say, hypothetically, they decided to step up their game and begin verifying signatures, making phone calls, using voice recognition.

00:06:30.620 AI can defeat that right now, and that's what keeps me awake at night.

00:06:34.780 And that's why I endorse a product called Home Title Lock to help protect my home and the homes of the people I love.

00:06:39.680 so talk to me about that with home title lock you get signed we give a two week now trial

00:06:45.880 14 day triple lock protection one million dollar triple lock protection why should people think

00:06:50.760 that hey to take this off my plate so i can sleep at night why home title lock particularly given

00:06:56.600 this new challenge which we didn't before we had rogue lawyers rogue accountants

00:07:01.520 rogue significant others family members etc now you've got a whole new threat which is not just

00:07:08.780 cyber, but the combination of AI and cyber, which the top people in the country says is a lurking

00:07:14.220 threat to all of our financial institutions. In theory, Steve, you could monitor the status

00:07:20.700 of your home title yourself. You could wake up every morning and log on to your county clerk's

00:07:24.480 office and make sure that no one has messed with your title or placed any liens on it or tried to

00:07:28.880 sell the house out from under you or obtain a home equity line of credit in your name, but that's

00:07:33.820 going to drive you insane. So the idea of outsourcing this to a company like Home Title Lock,

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00:07:48.260 of legal professionals who are going to get that house back into your name. I look at it like the

00:07:52.340 smoke detector in my house. I like to set it and forget it. And it's just one less thing I need to

00:07:56.240 worry about. So Tom, you get the $1 million triple lock protection. You get two weeks free to check

00:08:02.840 this out and see if it works for you. And of course, they're the same. Hey, if for any reason

00:08:07.340 there's a screw up and somebody monetizes it. They've got the lawyers. They've got the communications

00:08:13.580 people, everything set up that can help you get through this, right? Absolutely. With no out-of-pocket

00:08:20.040 expenses to a home title lock subscriber. And you may have heard, Steve, that attorneys aren't cheap.

00:08:26.760 No, particularly this. The bigger thing, though, even as bad as that is, the opportunity cost.

00:08:31.300 Once this happens, when it's 90% of your net worth, your entire life and the stories you guys tell, your entire life changes in that moment.

00:08:40.240 You spend all of your time now either working the problem or worrying about the problem, the angst and the anxiety.

00:08:46.340 That's what we're trying to keep people from, from pennies a day.

00:08:49.040 Let somebody else, let a set of professionals do it instead of, you know, once that happens, your life changes.

00:08:55.220 And the sad stories here, nobody ever puts it back together again perfectly, right?

00:09:01.640 They're hugely out of pocket.

00:09:03.420 It takes years.

00:09:04.580 They got anxiety.

00:09:05.500 A lot of people have strokes or just say, hey, you know, I can't do this.

00:09:09.020 It leads them to an earlier grave because having worked your entire life, being lucky

00:09:13.560 enough to have a home that is supposed to be not just your castle and where every dream

00:09:18.280 is, it is also supposed to be your financial security in your later years, sir.

00:09:23.940 Absolutely. 0.98

00:09:24.820 And, you know, maybe the police or my former colleagues at the FBI will do a good job and actually catch the bad guy, put him in an orange jumpsuit, send him into a foreign country if he's a foreigner. 0.68

00:09:33.380 But the problem is they are not equipped to restore that home back into your name.

00:09:37.360 That's not what the police are there for.

00:09:38.780 That's not what the FBI is there for.

00:09:40.500 You're going to have to do that yourself with a ton of legal fees unless you have Home Title Lock to restore that home back into your name for the cost of a subscription.

00:09:50.560 Tom, thank you.

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00:10:04.120 Tom Simon, thank you so much for joining us this morning.

00:10:06.700 Thanks for having me on.

00:10:09.260 See how he's so calming?

00:10:10.920 I calmed down from yelling and screaming for an hour.

00:10:15.440 Daniel Boguslaw joins us.

00:10:17.100 Daniel, if we can get the article up, I want to hit rewind.

00:10:21.340 for maybe those that didn't catch it yesterday, give me a minute or two on the basic theory

00:10:25.540 of the case you're making in your article, sir. Sure. Thanks for having me back. So yesterday,

00:10:32.200 we talked about the way that inside of both the federal intelligence agencies, the FBI and DHS,

00:10:37.380 and then also their sort of nodular systems spread throughout the country and over 80 fusion centers,

00:10:42.460 which are attached to state police, documents that I've obtained show this percolating new

00:10:48.620 threat category of anti-AI, anti-technology extremism. And, you know, as we discussed

00:10:55.380 yesterday, seven out of 10 Americans do not want a big, noisy, dirty data center parked in their

00:11:01.280 backyard. Nonetheless, the federal government is going ahead with this new formulation,

00:11:06.300 really trying to target anyone who's serious or even joking online about not liking AI and wanting

00:11:11.820 it wiped out. And this is a huge problem because this is an incredibly unifying bipartisan hatred

00:11:19.820 of this new technology. People want it regulated, or at the very least, they want to say in

00:11:24.200 both how the technology is developed, how it's applied, and also how the data centers and power

00:11:29.260 infrastructure affect their day-to-day life. People showing up to town halls, people showing

00:11:35.180 up to city council board meetings are being surveilled. And this new, huge, sweeping threat

00:11:42.640 category is being developed. We talked about a little bit of the history of the development of

00:11:48.520 this idea of extremism, whether it's applied to right-wing conservatives who are supporters of

00:11:54.740 Donald Trump, or whether it's left-wing environmental activists or what have you.

00:12:00.380 These threat categories are juggled about from conservative to liberal administration, and the people who win out time and time again are the federal law enforcement and intelligence agencies, which are able to purloin the threat category depending on what the president sitting in the Oval Office wants to hear.

00:12:16.900 Sure. Hang on. I want to go because I want I want to do actually get some examples of the extremism.

00:12:22.280 But just for the average person that says, hey, you know, I've been pretty passive or maybe I've been involved in in in center left politics or maybe I've been involved in center right politics.

00:12:34.080 Maybe I've gone to a Trump rally or maybe I've gone to a Bernie Sanders rally, but I'm not really that I'm not political.

00:12:39.920 Right. They decide that because one of these centers is being built like the example I use in Florida in their backyard.

00:12:46.900 and the community kind of comes together of both political stripes and says, no, we want to fight

00:12:53.380 this and they want to go to these town halls. What are the examples you have of that, of just

00:12:59.220 average people, normal people who are voicing their constitutional rights to say, we don't

00:13:04.480 want these locally being targeted versus the people that are extremists and calling for violence

00:13:10.240 about this? I mean, I think it's as simple as looking at the city council meetings across the

00:13:16.520 country where someone will get up. You see it in Illinois. You see suburban sort of liberal moms.

00:13:23.120 You see it down in the South and the Southwest, more conservative folks, more in camo. Both cases, 1.00

00:13:28.760 they get up, they try to speak their piece, their constitutionally afforded right to exercise their

00:13:34.040 political rights at the city council meetings. And they'll go two seconds, five seconds over

00:13:38.780 their allotted time. And they get hauled out of these meetings by state police who are getting

00:13:44.040 fed this, this federal intelligence in these briefings, you know, the exact type I published

00:13:48.500 online. So, you know, these are not extremists, these are local residents, you know, exercising

00:13:55.080 their God given American rights to their local political process. And, you know, what the federal

00:14:01.840 government has done is they've tried to take some of these fringe examples of people threatening

00:14:07.300 violence, you know, there was a sort of strange anti AI cult with a couple of people going around

00:14:12.660 rampage in the country. Hang on. Hang on. I want to take a break, commercial break. I want to get

00:14:18.120 into this. But there have been some extremists out there and some folks have said some pretty

00:14:23.500 crazy stuff. But I think these fusion centers, the federal government at the top and then gets

00:14:27.700 down to these 80 fusion centers are maybe overreacting to that versus citizens, whether

00:14:34.320 in Florida or whether they're people that back Bernie Sanders or people that back President

00:14:39.020 Trump saying, hey, these data centers, we've got to take a hard look at this, and I don't

00:14:43.260 want it in my backyard.

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00:16:30.080 uh daniel bogus law from um wired magazine is with us daniel uh when you've had these kind of

00:16:37.720 big uh industrial revolutions like back in the 19th century or even today you do have people

00:16:43.600 right um who who think this thing through and say hey look these are coming along and they're

00:16:49.360 going to crush at least traditional society as we know it back in the 19th century it was i think

00:16:54.360 the luddites uh of which i think they've kind of been smeared because if you really read they just

00:16:59.820 weren't going around and trying to smash uh you know um uh some of the apparatuses particularly

00:17:07.440 in the in the cotton mills and making clothes etc they actually had i think some of them were quite

00:17:12.060 profound about about where all that was leading right uh tell me about that because right now i

00:17:19.460 don't believe that people on the left or people on the right right now are luddites they're not

00:17:24.200 anti-technology. They're anti the way this is being forced down their throats by a group of

00:17:30.580 oligarchs that look like they're buying the political process, whether that's Democrats

00:17:33.940 or Republicans. But tell me about the original, the Luddites. Well, yeah, the Luddites have been 1.00

00:17:40.200 interpreted by our federal law enforcement agencies as just some sort of anarchistic,

00:17:46.360 monomaniacal extremists who wanted to, as you mentioned, smash textile mills out of some

00:17:53.620 pure hatred of machinery, but that's, of course, a false history. The reality is that they were

00:17:59.100 responding to the corporatization of production and this idea that the common people were being

00:18:05.520 cut out of the political process and the industrial process. These were people who

00:18:09.840 wanted to work. They wanted to produce materials. Hell, I'm sure they would have been happy to use

00:18:14.620 some of this machinery, but their concerns were that they were being driven out and everything

00:18:19.260 was being consolidated. I think the parallel to today is brilliant. It's a similar, if slightly

00:18:27.240 different development where you have people saying, what is this providing? What kind of

00:18:31.800 wealth generation are we talking about here? You're talking about putting a data center in

00:18:36.360 my backyard that's going to increase the valuation of your company while producing what? AI-generated

00:18:41.600 slop videos of bananas sword fighting. That doesn't produce wealth for normal people. 0.81

00:18:46.620 That doesn't provide utility. That doesn't provide garments for people to wear.

00:18:50.480 Hang on. And decrease the value of my home. Everything I got is in that home. My value is

00:18:57.520 going down and I got nothing but a mortgage. I got a little bit saved up. My home is my savings

00:19:03.320 account for my retirement. My value goes down. Your value goes up. I'm kind of missing how I

00:19:10.380 should be happy about that. I mean, look, I love the video as much as the next guy of Trump

00:19:16.000 throwing Stephen Colbert in the dumpster. I thought that was hilarious. And it was great

00:19:20.340 that we have the AI technology to generate that kind of video. But I don't think that most people

00:19:24.400 are going to choose that video over, as you said, the price of their house going down and the cost

00:19:29.440 of water and electricity going up. Now, I want to point out that at the same time that this

00:19:34.440 frustration is building in cities and municipalities across the country, in addition to the reporting

00:19:40.560 we discussed yesterday in Wired about this new threat category developing, I also obtained a

00:19:46.120 document showing that there's a new intelligence bureau embedded inside of the Capitol Police.

00:19:52.340 And what this bureau is up to is running around with its head cut off, screaming that the people

00:19:58.560 are angry about AI and data centers and that, oh my God, they could be targeting politicians.

00:20:04.400 Now, what this intelligence bureau is not doing is saying, here's the price of electricity in

00:20:09.660 local municipalities going up. Here's the environmental cost of these new power plants

00:20:14.900 going right in your backyard, spewing carcinogens into your neighborhood. You know, they're not

00:20:20.280 talking about risks to the average American citizen. They're talking about risks to elected

00:20:26.040 officials who are overseeing and glad-handed with these guys. And guess what else?

00:20:31.620 Yeah. Guess what else is included in that report I got? A threat report for Sam Altman.

00:20:37.360 In addition to the so-called invented threats against politicians, they're also – the Capitol Police Intelligence Bureau also dedicated a full page to the attacks against Sam Altman.

00:20:49.600 How about generating some intelligence about the threats to normal Americans?

00:20:54.820 Is this, by the way, a fusion center, or are they doing this independently of either DHS or FBI or others are doing it, sent it to these 80 fusion centers?

00:21:05.180 Are they coming up with this out of whole cloth?

00:21:07.600 You and Ken's reporting says what?

00:21:10.800 This reporting says that they created this new intelligence bureau inside of the Capitol

00:21:15.140 Police after January 6th because they said that there wasn't enough intelligence, which

00:21:19.240 we know is not true, and that now they've got a couple guys sitting behind computers

00:21:25.580 monitoring your social media activities.

00:21:27.920 And then, yes, those reports are then shot out to the fusion centers, and then those

00:21:32.920 fusion centers are shooting that back into the federal government. So they've entered into the

00:21:37.280 whirlpool. They've entered into the recombinant cycle of intelligence. But again, instead of

00:21:43.320 generating actionable intelligence, instead of generating information about real threats,

00:21:47.560 they seem to mainly be ringing the alarm about people pissed off at CEOs and politicians who

00:21:54.320 failed to stop data centers and the AI companies creating technology that are eliminating jobs.

00:21:59.640 tell me about when we talk about real threats go to this because there are some people out there

00:22:04.180 look i i am as anti-ai as i think you can get and still be rational and and i i see it as

00:22:11.680 you're not going to be able to get rid of it but it's got to be somehow put into american life

00:22:16.520 or it's a positive not a negative shredding our society our culture our civilization but um talk

00:22:23.420 to me about there's been a couple of groups and one you mentioned in your article it's almost

00:22:27.280 taken on like a cult-like nature is so virulently anti-AI that they're advocating violence,

00:22:33.500 but they've done it. They're almost a cult. They're so obsessed with how dangerous it is.

00:22:37.400 Walk me through that. Yeah. So, I mean, traditionally, this is how we've seen

00:22:41.400 the intelligence agencies cast a dragnet that encompasses law-abiding citizens. They pick one

00:22:48.120 extremist group or individual that is truly an extremist threat, is a real danger to society,

00:22:55.840 And then they extrapolate from there. So in this case, that threat was a group called the Zizians, who basically think that AI is going to become an omniscient, all-powerful god, and that in order to placate that god, they have to commit acts of murder and violence across the country. 0.94

00:23:15.420 And they did murder several people, including a landlord, I believe, including a CBP officer. 0.94

00:23:22.340 And they were arrested.

00:23:24.700 The members are now on trial.

00:23:27.300 And, you know, they are genuine extremists, genuine whack jobs. 0.94

00:23:31.740 This was the group. 0.87

00:23:32.620 This was the group, I think, that was up on the northern border.

00:23:35.220 There was a Customs and Border Patrol officer like in New Hampshire, Vermont.

00:23:39.020 They gunned down.

00:23:40.260 But it was like a couple.

00:23:42.580 There was a young, some young people.

00:23:43.920 I mean, it wasn't a threat to the system, right?

00:23:50.180 It was basically some people that had maybe gone overboard or had these strange beliefs that AI is going to be all-encompassing.

00:23:57.060 Listen, I'm not saying that sometimes when you look at what the possibilities are, you can go there easily.

00:24:03.460 And part of the reason is the oligarchs kind of drive you in that direction.

00:24:07.320 So you can see how particularly young people who may not have as much discernment as others can be driven to that.

00:24:13.780 But that was a handful of situations, right? And you're saying that is what they're taking, extrapolating out to say if you show up at a – if you show up and say, hey, I'm in West Texas and the aquifers here are getting dried out.

00:24:26.000 We can't do any more data centers. You're lumped into the same crowd?

00:24:31.100 Yeah, that's right. And again, they were extremists, but they were hyper-isolated.

00:24:35.500 They didn't have a large online following. They were marginalized even within the other people who were concerned about AI's godlike development.

00:24:43.780 But again, as soon as that risk gets into the federal intelligence apparatus, that machine is on autopilot. It can't help itself. It spins itself into this is the new threat. And like you were saying, CIA shrouded in glory. I mean, how many times have these guys gotten it wrong?

00:25:04.660 How many times have these guys missed the real threat because they were chasing something else?

00:25:09.080 So, you know, again, the problem is not the American people.

00:25:13.200 The problem is these companies that are creating sky-high valuations.

00:25:17.800 They're all trying to go public in the next few weeks, and they've yet to show anyone, shareholders or the American public, what value they are generating for normal Americans.

00:25:27.760 We haven't seen that.

00:25:28.320 And they're trying to ram it down people's throats.

00:25:31.320 Like I said, in this Florida situation that people, you know, both both sides of the political, you know, spread showed up 500 makes passionate talks five nothing, five nothing because the guys are all bought and paid for by the oligarchs.

00:25:47.780 One last thing. Have you reached out to DHS? Have you reached out to the FBI?

00:25:52.060 Have you reached out to the spokesman and say, hey, we want to interview some of the top people who's in charge of this?

00:25:56.780 Or have you made an effort to reach out to them?

00:25:59.600 I've reached out to them. DHS for The Wire story didn't get back to me. The bureau said, look,

00:26:05.060 we go after bad guys. You know, they did not want to talk about the way that they're formulating

00:26:10.760 these extremism categories. But, you know, I will talk to anyone. I'm more than happy. I talk to

00:26:18.040 all kinds of former officials and current officials who are coming from both parts of

00:26:23.220 political spectrum. And if you're listening right now, hit my line, hit me on Twitter. I'd love to

00:26:29.040 have a discussion and learn more and try to understand why these threat categories are

00:26:33.620 taking shape the way they are. Did the Capitol Police blow you and Ken off when you're doing

00:26:37.860 your story, the second story? And if we can push that out there, when you guys are doing the story

00:26:41.400 about the intelligence unit, the Capitol Police, did they blow you off from actually getting an

00:26:47.320 interview? Yeah, I mean, I think they feel like they have their own mini CIA, and that CIA is

00:26:55.160 secret and is for their eyes only. So again, I'm happy to talk to them. Half the people I contacted

00:27:02.040 did not even respond to my request for comment. But I'm a forgiving man, and I'm always trying

00:27:08.220 to learn. I want to get the truth. I want to get the facts. And that usually happens from

00:27:12.000 conversations, not from Stonewall. I take it you're pursuing this. We want to get you back on

00:27:16.560 when you get more reporting up.

00:27:18.720 It's been amazing and wired.

00:27:20.180 Where do people go?

00:27:20.920 What's the social media?

00:27:22.280 And then how do they get all your writings?

00:27:24.500 Sure, check me out on X at drboguslaw

00:27:27.700 and then on Substack at Deeper States

00:27:31.120 is the Substack I write.

00:27:33.180 Deeper States.

00:27:33.940 Okay, let's make sure we push that out.

00:27:36.140 Daniel Boguslaw, thank you.

00:27:37.780 And thank Ken also.

00:27:39.280 Amazing piece about the Capital Intelligence Unit.

00:27:41.820 Looking forward to getting you back on.

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00:31:21.560 of liberty with her hands yeah right there yeah this was the second it was the second mac daddy

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00:31:40.020 this back in october november with philip patrick that's who's on the show last night but this is

00:31:43.740 a problem in the 1.5 trillion dollar defense budget is going to add to the deficit we got

00:31:49.620 to be very smart how we're going to grow our way out of it but brandon in in this defense budget

00:31:54.340 It was going to be 1.5 trillion.

00:31:55.880 There's actually something that's quite odd, bordering on disturbing.

00:32:00.820 And I want to talk about this.

00:32:01.840 Section 224.

00:32:02.900 Well, we do have allies and we do share technology.

00:32:06.440 I mean, NATO, the British, et cetera.

00:32:08.500 But remember, we're not actually – there's no official alliance between the United States and Israel.

00:32:16.580 We work together.

00:32:17.640 I call them America's greatest ally because they seem to go – Netanyahu particularly goes in his own direction.

00:32:23.060 Don't take it from me.

00:32:24.340 look at all the stories are out over the last two days of president trump getting into it with him

00:32:29.620 about president trump trying to get some sort of interim peace deal in this situation like they

00:32:34.360 want to march to beirut but talk to me technically what is going on because a lot of rumors going

00:32:38.820 around a lot of guys on the internet you're kind of an expert what is happening in this ndaa

00:32:42.980 particularly but the section 224 yeah so i basically all weekend did what i used to do

00:32:50.000 on the hill i just basically read everything i could inside the actual ndaa pdf and i focused a

00:32:58.040 lot on 224 section 224 and it's not what they're saying on the internet the u.s and israeli

00:33:04.800 militaries are not merging commands and whatnot that's a kind of a misnomer it's actually kind

00:33:10.220 of scarier what we're doing is we're merging our defense industrial base and high-end technology

00:33:17.960 development bases into one so they are now they will under this law if it passes as it's written

00:33:24.360 become a seamless there will be no change or difference between u.s and israeli defense and

00:33:31.360 tech sectors it will be one big blob and um that is where this is hang on hang on hang on full stop

00:33:38.840 full stop you got navarro and this team over at the white house has been about rejuvenating our

00:33:44.500 defense industrial base so be specific when you're saying if this is one of the critical aspects we

00:33:49.940 have you were the first to report this and you got a lot of blowback on it and now turns out

00:33:54.920 you were probably you were probably directionally closer to the truth than others but about our

00:34:00.400 ability to have certain weapon systems certain ammo you know between ukraine uh the gaza situation

00:34:07.780 what we need for the south china sea and taiwan and what we're unloading onto the persians that

00:34:13.300 all gets back to these shortages and it gets back to our industrial base we got enough problem with

00:34:17.920 our industrial base and sorting it out are you talking to me that this is because the the command

00:34:22.980 merger you're saying is that's a false narrative right but it's deeper that you're actually taking

00:34:27.880 the two industrial bases and you will merge those together how does that play out in the language of

00:34:32.940 the ndaa well i break it down in my substack piece but basically what they're talking about is they

00:34:39.280 They focus on the U.S. Congress wants to be able to basically have complete access to Israeli technology and developing weapons and pick and choose what we can then procure from them.

00:34:51.520 But alternatively, the Israelis will be able to do that as well with our high-end technology and our high-end and in some cases classified technology.

00:35:01.520 I would remind your audience, the most powerful warplane in existence today, it is said, is the F-22 Raptor, which is a fifth generation air superiority warplane.

00:35:12.180 And it's the one plane we will not share with the British or any ally. 0.79

00:35:17.540 But under this deal, if it goes through, potentially the Israelis might get their hands on it. 0.60

00:35:23.280 And the reason the previous Congresses didn't want to share the F-22 with anybody is because it has such advanced high-end gear in it, it's stuff that still, 30 years after it was first developed, is ahead of the game in terms of what our enemies have. 0.85

00:35:39.080 And they don't want it getting into the hands of anybody who might misuse it, lose it, or even sell it. 0.72

00:35:44.780 And as I said in the article, the pattern is Israel gets our secrets and they leverage those secrets for their own gain, not for what's best for the United States. 0.78

00:35:54.040 We saw that with Jonathan Pollard. 0.82

00:35:55.740 So the fear that I have is that, yes, we'll be able to get access to some advanced Israeli gear, and they're developing some interesting things.

00:36:04.160 But also they are then given access to our advanced gear, and we know what happens when they gain access to our technology.

00:36:11.540 But hang on. Hang over a second. Hang on.

00:36:13.620 do we we have a special relationship with the brits with the uk we also are in an actual alliance

00:36:21.580 on paper with nato it's been our principal alliance since world war ii do we have if i go

00:36:29.100 back to the nda do we have what's proposed for israel is that currently the policy of the united

00:36:35.620 states as far as industrial basis with the united kingdom this goes deeper what is being proposed

00:36:41.640 So the closest analogy is the U.S.-U.K. relationship, but there are still divisions between us and them for national security and economic purposes, and that has been the case since World War II.

00:36:59.980 Yes, we are very close, but it's not seamless, the integration, and that's purposeful.

00:37:04.460 Same thing with NATO. 0.85

00:37:06.260 In the case of Israel, it's going to be a la carte.

00:37:09.880 Anything Israel wants access to, they're going to get, and they say anything we need access to, we're going to get.

00:37:16.220 But I just can't help but suspect this is a one-sided deal.

00:37:20.200 And furthermore, the goal of Peter Navarro, the goal of the Trump administration, was to re-industrialize the United States by basically saying,

00:37:28.820 okay, we're going to start grabbing short-term the systems that Israel supposedly has that we don't.

00:37:34.400 that's actually going to negate and slow down the reindustrialization effort here in the United States

00:37:40.400 because people will start becoming accustomed to just pulling from Israel rather than building at home.

00:37:47.600 You can have, it does, the UK and the NATO situation, particularly with Germany,

00:37:53.060 does it show you you can have a structure where you're very close to these nations, but you're not seamless?

00:37:59.120 And so if they're developing technology, maybe you go in on a one-off basis and do some joint venture, et cetera.

00:38:04.620 Is that the way that's supposed to work?

00:38:06.660 Yes, that's the way it's supposed to. 0.84

00:38:07.780 And that's the way it has worked with Israel.

00:38:09.540 Remember, Israel and the United States developed the air defense systems, the Iron Dome, David Sling.

00:38:14.920 But it was limited and it was specific.

00:38:17.580 And that was done intentionally to protect U.S. national security secrets and tradecraft.

00:38:23.540 And again, Israel has a demonstrated history, even though they are a partner of ours. 0.86

00:38:28.400 They have a demonstrated history of undercutting our capabilities and our secrets when it suits their purposes. 0.99

00:38:36.920 Hang on. Hang on. Besides the Pollard situation, which is horrible, are there any specifics you can point to over the last couple of years to back up your case on that?

00:38:47.680 You can talk to any CIA officer who has dealt with the Middle East in the last 30 years.

00:38:54.800 I was told a story recently of a Mossad team that was complicating our ability to conduct operations against al-Qaeda in Iraq, in the Sunni Triangle during the Iraq War, because they were attempting to do their own mission.

00:39:08.300 But hang on, on the technology side, has there been anything?

00:39:12.060 Yes, yes.

00:39:12.660 Yes, so in 2019.

00:39:14.120 Because one of the worries is always that there are certain elements that are very close to the Chinese Communist Party.

00:39:21.360 That's exactly right. 0.67

00:39:22.160 Particularly on the technology side.

00:39:23.400 Yes, and I mentioned that in my book.

00:39:24.580 Is there any examples of that?

00:39:25.880 Yes, thank you for teeing me up about that.

00:39:28.180 Yes, in my article I talked about in 2019, I spoke with a group of scientists that were working on American quantum computing development.

00:39:37.620 And basically, they were also dealing with the Israelis.

00:39:41.080 They told me that the three countries right now that are really leading the quantum computing development race, the U.S., China, but they said the stalking horse was Israel.

00:39:51.700 And a lot of American firms and scientists were basically sharing a lot of information with Israeli firms.

00:39:58.520 And there was a fear because of an incident that occurred in 2019 that the Israelis were actually getting access to the quantum computing development from us.

00:40:09.700 And then they were actually trying to use that to create inroads with the People's Republic of China because the Israelis believed at the time, I don't know if it's still the case, but at the time, the Israelis believed that they could create a long-lasting trading partnership with China and they were going to use technology as sort of the entree into that new relationship.

00:40:31.940 And they were leveraging specifically our quantum technology that we were developing in some cases with Israeli firms.

00:40:38.780 But there's a dispute about this memorandum of understanding.

00:40:42.460 Bibi says they want to get off.

00:40:43.920 We've been a proponent.

00:40:44.780 We ought to be cut off immediately, that they ought to be treated like anybody else and not.

00:40:49.140 We shouldn't be paying for anything.

00:40:50.760 There shouldn't be any MOU.

00:40:52.520 Is this what's put into this NDAA in Section 224?

00:40:56.720 Is this a workaround for people who are saying, hey, look, they got their own strategy.

00:41:01.460 And this has come up in this war the last week, and President Trump using profanity with Bibi to say, look,

00:41:07.660 i'm trying to sort this thing out i can't have you marching to beirut yeah and and in their

00:41:12.620 defense of their strategy they may have the thing to say hey we got to do it and we you know we're

00:41:19.340 sorry you don't want to do it but we're going to do it they're they're we've come to kind of a

00:41:24.280 crossroads they got the plan they're following we got the plan we're following particularly as

00:41:27.920 hopefully we draw down in the middle east um is this timing suspicious and that having voices

00:41:35.480 saying, we got to get out of this MOU and BB wants to do it. Let's not wait 10 years. Let's

00:41:40.620 not renew. Let's cut it off. Now that all of a sudden it pops up that, whoa, but we're merging

00:41:46.020 the defense industrial bases. That is that a hundred percent a hundred. So to me, this does

00:41:51.560 read like a black, a backdoor rather, because the Israelis are very keen observers of our 0.84

00:41:57.380 political development here in the United States, as you know, and as you know, while a lot of the

00:42:02.500 Democrat and Republican leadership, the older people today are very pro-Israel. The next

00:42:07.280 generation that's coming up right now is at least skeptical of Israel, and they want to push away

00:42:12.420 from the kind of foreign aid we've been giving over the years to Israel. So I think that Israel's 0.93

00:42:18.740 allies in Congress have developed a workaround to basically ensure that the Israelis for the next,

00:42:25.860 in perpetuity many decades have access and aid through the back door of Section 224, as it is

00:42:33.080 written, so that they will never be cut off by future Congresses or presidents who might be

00:42:38.900 skeptical of our support for Israel. And I think that is exactly where this is headed and why this

00:42:44.200 came up in this specific NDAA at this time. Brandon, where do people go for all of your

00:42:50.940 writings everything your social media in particular your sub stack you're you're quite

00:42:55.760 ahead of the curve let's say that thank you sir yeah it's weikert.substack.com the weikert brief

00:43:02.040 uh and i post one at least once a day you can also check out my rumble a podcast nat sec talk

00:43:08.460 and then also at we the brandon is my twitter and my books are on amazon and as always thank

00:43:14.560 you steve for having me on thank you brandon thank you for being ahead of the curve and

00:43:19.560 sharing it with our audience. Thank you. This one's got to be drilled on. I don't think we

00:43:25.460 should have it with the United Kingdom. We shouldn't have it with Taiwan. We shouldn't 1.00

00:43:29.080 have it with Germany. We shouldn't have it with Israel. No need. We've got our own industrial base. 1.00

00:43:33.800 We could be in one-off projects, close working relationships, working on joint technologies.

00:43:39.980 That's all great. But no, no, no, no, no. We can't merge the industrial bases. It cannot happen.

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00:49:44.460 The ones for the two new products are slowly but surely coming in.

00:49:47.380 Uh, but like I said, they've been super hot, which I'm very happy about.

00:49:50.760 And I'm excited to hear the feedback on those as well.

00:49:53.720 Yes.

00:49:54.260 Give the feedback because, uh, Trevor and the team take their time.

00:49:58.200 This is why it's not a hundred products.

00:50:00.340 It's really handcrafted.

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00:50:04.080 Where do they go today, Trevor, to, uh, to immerse themselves in these products, the

00:50:08.860 information about these products and talk to you.

00:50:11.420 Yeah, definitely.

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00:50:16.760 You can always use code WARROOM for 10% off any order.

00:50:21.100 And like I mentioned, just let us know if you have any questions.

00:50:23.080 We'll get back to you as soon as we can.

00:50:25.420 Thank you, brother.

00:50:26.300 Appreciate you taking time away today to join us.

00:50:28.860 Thank you.

00:50:29.840 SacredHumanHealth.com.

00:50:30.720 Get to Trevor Comstock.

00:50:32.260 Mike Lindell, how many people you got running against you?

00:50:35.700 We're going to talk deals in a second, but how many people are running against you right now, sir?

00:50:40.320 Well, you got the two main contenders, and then I believe there's three other ones.

00:50:44.380 So there's five others running for governor. 0.59

00:50:49.360 Well, I thought she took a pledge if she's going to get this, you know, didn't get this thing. 0.59

00:50:53.720 She was out.

00:50:54.240 How does somebody, because you were up front, I ain't doing this because I'm running, right?

00:50:59.700 But how does she make all these obligations?

00:51:02.080 I mean, it's kind of like these politicians, they bait and switch.

00:51:04.380 She was adamant because she thought she was going to get the endorsement, right?

00:51:09.320 Yeah, she thought she'd get the endorsement.

00:51:11.100 And then when it didn't happen, they said, oh, we had machine malfunctions.

00:51:14.380 We had problems.

00:51:15.380 So then the GOP said, you know what?

00:51:17.520 You go ahead and run, Lisa Damoth.

00:51:19.560 So it's a lie.

00:51:20.580 I mean, you got to call it what you can.

00:51:23.700 All the other, Secretary of State and Attorney General, all the other, and the auditor, all

00:51:29.960 those candidates that lost, they didn't get to rerun.

00:51:33.260 So they're doing a special favor for Lisa Damoth, which is fine.

00:51:38.540 I'm pulling number one against both of them.

00:51:41.340 and they're both, you know, the establishment candidates.

00:51:45.620 So maybe it's a good thing.

00:51:47.100 I believe it's a good thing, Steve.

00:51:49.200 Okay, good.

00:51:50.240 Then the most important thing,

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00:52:54.460 We'll see you back here at 5.

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Bannon's War Room - June 03, 2026

Episode 5419： Cults Grow Against AI; The A-La-Carte War

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