Bannon's War Room - Episode 5424： Job Report Comes In Positive; Fusing Israeli And US Intelligence

00:00:00.000 And the data is out. The main job, job, jobs report. 172,000. Is there any doubt that this

00:00:08.940 anecdotal evidence about a good labor market has been very correct? That is a really strong number.

00:00:15.040 And last month, well, we had a revision from 115,000 to 179,000, which means the two-month

00:00:23.520 revision, it's got to be over 90,000. That is a good number. Even manufacturing posted a 7,000

00:00:32.720 job gain. So how strong is 172,000? That would be the best number since 185,000 in March.

00:00:40.440 These are solid numbers. If we look at what's going on with average hourly earnings,

00:00:45.960 average hourly earnings come in at three tenths as expected. If we look at average hourly earnings

00:00:51.860 year over year, 3.4 as expected. And I would like to point out that on the month over month,

00:00:58.300 0.3 is a tenth higher than the 0.2 in the rear view mirror. But the 3.4 year over year is two

00:01:04.940 tenths light, two tenths light. 3.4 would equal where we were in March. We started the year at

00:01:12.780 3.7. Okay. Now, if we look at the work week and the work week, of course, has been getting a bit

00:01:18.460 smaller. The average work week's coming in at 34.3 as expected. The unemployment rate, drumroll

00:01:26.500 please, 4.3. Well, we didn't really need the drumroll. That is a very, very nice historically

00:01:33.060 low rate, and it's pretty steady there. As a matter of fact, we're at 4.3 every month this year,

00:01:38.800 except for February, we're at 4.4. Labor force participation rate, it's been moving lower.

00:01:45.200 you know, last month it moved to 61.8. That was the smallest since September of 21. And that's

00:01:51.460 where it's camping out at 61.8. And that's really depressing. You know, you read these statistics

00:01:56.920 about how many able-bodied workers are not working or looking for work. That is something we need to

00:02:03.360 deal with. And finally, the last part of this number is the underemployment rate. We call it

00:02:09.640 U6. The actual employment rate's called U3. U6 comes in at 8.1%. 8.1%, how does that compare?

00:02:18.960 Well, it was 8.2 last look. It was 8% before that. The low watermark was 7.9%, and that was in

00:02:26.900 February. What has the market done? Exactly what you would expect. Interest rates are going up,

00:02:32.200 and not for a bad reason, for a good reason. A good reason, because the economy is doing much

00:02:37.920 better from the view of labor than many had expected. Friday, 5 June, year of our Lord,

00:02:45.340 2026. We brought EJ and Tony in here to make it make sense to us. First off, EJ,

00:02:52.800 I want to talk about the top line number. I also want to talk about the reset for the previous

00:02:59.400 month's number. And I thought the reason that we pushed you so hard to be over Bureau of Labor

00:03:06.400 statistics was to sort this problem out. Maybe it's not that big a problem, but give me your

00:03:12.460 top line in the reset, adding, I think, 60,000 jobs from last month. Where are we? So make this

00:03:18.960 make sense to the audience. Absolutely. Steve, it was a great headline number, no two ways about it.

00:03:25.600 And not only was it a strong headline in terms of the number of non-farm payrolls, when we ask

00:03:31.040 businesses, how many jobs do you actually have on the books? That was a great number,

00:03:36.320 including the revisions. It's over 260,000. Again, very, very good number. But I also want to focus

00:03:43.180 on another really good piece of news here, which was not just the survey from businesses, but the

00:03:47.920 survey from households. And there we saw the first increase in employment this year. Every previous

00:03:55.780 month this year was actually negative. It was showing employment was going down. So this is a

00:04:00.540 sharp reversal. That measure was up $99,000, so almost $100K there. Again, very good piece of

00:04:07.660 news. I think it was also good to see that after we incorporate these revisions and we hone in

00:04:13.020 just on the manufacturing sector, which has obviously been a big, big point of concern for

00:04:18.780 this administration, we see that there was a three-year slide in jobs in the manufacturing

00:04:25.140 sector. In other words, from January of 2023 in the dead center of the Biden administration

00:04:30.600 until January of 2026, we were basically steadily losing manufacturing jobs. We have now gained

00:04:38.300 manufacturing jobs each month of 2026. It's not a lot, but again, it's a sharp reversal

00:04:44.740 from what was previously a steady decline. So there's a lot of good news in the report.

00:04:51.140 Not everything was good. As we dig through some of the internals, we do find some red flags,

00:04:55.960 absolutely. But overall, great headline number. We always like to get the

00:05:02.680 reality check in front of the Warren Posse. What are the red flags you see?

00:05:09.520 There's a couple, Steve, one of which is the fact that we once again saw a decline in the number of

00:05:14.700 full-time jobs. So all of the net job growth that we saw was part-time employment. Again,

00:05:20.860 Again, we like to see more full-time jobs with benefits and fewer people having to take multiple

00:05:26.800 part-time jobs, for example. So hopefully that's something that will reverse. That's not a new

00:05:32.600 problem. You and I have been talking about that for literally years now. It was a problem going

00:05:37.620 back again to the middle of the Biden administration where the economy was losing full-time jobs and

00:05:42.460 only adding part-time ones. So that trend does continue. We hope to see it reversed soon.

00:05:48.100 Another bit of a red flag here, not specifically to do with the labor market, but coming from

00:05:54.020 these statistics, is the fact that earnings growth is not keeping up with inflation right

00:05:59.100 now.

00:05:59.660 Again, not specific to the labor market because the cause there is just simply the Iran war,

00:06:05.000 right?

00:06:05.200 It's the fact that the Iran war, the closure of the Strait of Hormuz has caused oil prices

00:06:09.720 and countless other prices to go up.

00:06:11.560 And that's really hitting consumers hard.

00:06:13.640 and it means that their paychecks don't go as far as they did in the previous month. Again,

00:06:18.820 not something specific to do with the labor market, but it is something

00:06:21.900 that we see in these statistics this morning. Two things. Number one, does this lead you to

00:06:28.440 believe, given now the pattern of statistics that we have and data that we have, that President

00:06:34.520 Trump and Scott Besson's supply-side bet, particularly with the tariffs included, to

00:06:40.800 bring manufacturing jobs back. Do you get any sense in this data that we're making progress

00:06:46.380 on this? I do, Steve, absolutely. In fact, I'm not really sure how else you can interpret this

00:06:53.140 data. I think the whole push to reprivatize the economy that both the president and the

00:06:59.200 treasury secretary have really been pounding the table on, I think that's obviously bearing

00:07:03.900 fruit here. You know, the number of federal bureaucrats has declined now for 17 consecutive

00:07:10.780 months. That's a tremendous win. We've gotten rid of, what, 10%, I think, of the federal workforce.

00:07:18.500 The federal workforce now is the same size as it was 60 years ago. I mean, again, that's absolutely

00:07:24.700 incredible progress on the part of this administration. And as all of those formerly

00:07:29.680 federal bureaucrats leave government work and they go to the private sector and get jobs there,

00:07:35.560 that's going to help grow the economy. It's going to move them out of unproductive public service

00:07:40.900 into the productive private sector. So those things are absolute wins.

00:07:47.620 Any sense? We had you on to go through this issue with foreign workers, both the quote-unquote 1.00

00:07:53.580 legal with all the visa scams. Also, I think that the administration might have blinked on 0.98

00:08:00.260 this green card. You've got to go off. You've got to go back to your home country to do the green

00:08:04.480 card, which I think is fantastic. I believe overnight or in the last 48 hours that the 0.95

00:08:10.920 Senate has forced the administration to rethink that. These numbers, I know it's early, but any

00:08:16.200 sense of your theory of the case that we're still not doing enough to make sure that these are

00:08:22.020 American jobs for American workers because we've got to have mass deportation or things like

00:08:27.420 sending people home to do their green card, sir?

00:08:32.100 Well, Steve, like we talked about previously, I think the administration initially made a

00:08:37.240 tremendous amount of really, really good progress on that front. That progress has really slowed,

00:08:42.840 though, as we've taken our foot off the gas on things like mass deportations, on things like

00:08:49.080 certain aspects of immigration enforcement. Now, I do think going forward, though, as we see things

00:08:56.320 like Scott Besson's Treasury Department really ramp up its surveillance of what banks are doing

00:09:03.260 in terms of what is effectively either money laundering or at the very least, you're dealing

00:09:11.480 with the facilitation of that illegal migrant employment. So again, as we crack down on those

00:09:17.200 things, not just in the labor market, but in the financial sector as well, I'm hoping you're going

00:09:22.940 to see more progress in the right direction. Because as of right now, if we look at, according

00:09:28.060 to this latest report, where native-born employment stands today relative to pre-pandemic, it is up.

00:09:34.900 But what has grown much faster relative to pre-pandemic, it's still foreign-born jobs. In

00:09:41.720 other words, foreign-born workers with jobs. That's something that, again, we want to see 0.59

00:09:45.780 reversed. It's not that we hate foreign-born workers. We just love Americans, and we want

00:09:50.000 to see them getting the majority of the jobs here. The strong jobs report had the 10-year

00:09:55.720 treasury, which governs the financial life of our audience, popped over 4.5%. Where do you think we

00:10:03.040 go now that we have a new Fed chairman on interest rates? How do you think this robust

00:10:08.720 jobs report impacts the thinking on interest rates? I think the initial read here, and I'm

00:10:15.280 not sure the market's going to stay this way as they continue to digest this report and other

00:10:19.440 economic data. But I think the initial read goes something like this, Steve. If the labor market

00:10:24.120 is hot and inflation is hot, then the Fed is not going to cut rates. In fact, there's a chance they

00:10:29.820 may increase rates. So under that kind of framework, I think that's why the market is

00:10:36.460 looking at this as a potential increase in the likelihood that we get not cuts, but hikes out of

00:10:43.840 this Fed. Now, with all that in mind, I think the market might be misreading the new Fed chair,

00:10:50.080 because he has talked extensively about the need to cut the balance sheet, right? He has spoken

00:10:55.620 extensively about how the Fed has become an engine of inequality, growing the balance sheet,

00:11:00.660 inflating asset prices to benefit Wall Street, and then sticking Main Street with the inflation.

00:11:06.320 However, if you reverse those moves by the Fed, if you shrink the balance sheet, you end up

00:11:11.000 reversing those effects. This is why Kevin Warsh has talked, again, extensively about how the Fed

00:11:18.220 can have room to cut interest rates if, and that's a big if, it can get that balance sheet down,

00:11:24.880 because the balance sheet has been a huge driver of inflation. When the Fed goes out and they buy

00:11:30.180 literally trillions upon trillions of dollars in financial assets with money they create out

00:11:35.360 of nothing, that's going to put upward pressure on prices, not just financial assets, but prices

00:11:41.360 everywhere. Because again, you are literally creating trillions of dollars here. So again,

00:11:47.080 reverse those moves by the Fed, reverse their effects. The interest rate specifically,

00:11:52.940 the Fed funds rate is not the only tool in the Fed's toolkit. That's something that unlike Jerome

00:11:59.080 Powell, I think Kevin Warsh recognizes. That's quantitative easing versus quantitative tightening

00:12:04.840 and what E.J. is saying, you may see some quantitative tightening.

00:12:07.460 Remember, in the heroic effort, and Cortez will be on later,

00:12:10.880 we'll talk about this, although he's here about this debacle

00:12:14.100 with funding Ukraine and other military endeavors

00:12:18.480 that we don't have the money or the patience to fund.

00:12:21.300 In 2019, President Trump at the time, the Federal Reserve chair,

00:12:27.180 took a trillion dollars.

00:12:28.800 They shrunk the balance sheet by a trillion dollars,

00:12:30.940 and President Trump was still getting 3.5%, 4% growth.

00:12:33.460 so it can be done with the right set of policies. We got about 90 seconds, EJ. The Secretary of

00:12:40.300 Treasury obviously thinks very highly of you, Scott Besson's a big fan. What would be your

00:12:45.520 advice to the Secretary of Treasury, given the data you see in this report, sir?

00:12:52.760 Well, big caveat. I mean, far be it from me to give advice to someone as brilliant as Scott

00:12:58.260 Besson, our wonderful Treasury Secretary. But I think if I had to tell him anything, I think it

00:13:04.200 would have to be keep doing what you're doing. Keep your foot on the gas. Please, please, sir,

00:13:09.100 do not let up. And I don't just mean the way he just rhetorically murders senators and

00:13:15.780 congressmen in his congressional testimony, which he also does a fabulous job on. But in terms of

00:13:20.380 actual policy here, again, keep your foot on the gas in terms of pushing for additional tax cuts

00:13:27.060 through the reconciliation process. Keep your foot on the gas in terms of reforms at the IRS,

00:13:32.640 at the CFPB. Just keep working, keep making progress, keep building on the great progress

00:13:39.020 that you have already made. Because again, I think he has done probably more than any other

00:13:44.560 cabinet secretary, a phenomenal job and has really helped not just Wall Street, but Main Street here

00:13:51.140 has really helped not just the white collar worker, but the blue collar worker in this

00:13:55.660 administration. He did a wonderful job shepherding the big, beautiful bill through a very, very

00:14:00.980 difficult Congress last year. I would love to see another reconciliation bill get done this year

00:14:06.620 before midterms. EJ, your social media handle so people can find it. You're putting up great

00:14:13.460 quantitative work all the time. Where do they go? Best place to find me is on X. The handle there

00:14:18.880 is atrealejantoni. EJ, thank you so much. Appreciate you, sir.

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00:16:20.240 Are you happy about borrowing billions of dollars to send to Ukraine, to Zelensky, a corrupt tyrant who constantly demands mountains of money from America, but robs his own people blind?

00:16:40.360 Everyone around him is indicted now, many of them fugitives abroad.

00:16:45.160 Americans, meanwhile, have a hard time paying for gas and groceries, while Zelensky's pals, they buy jets and boats.

00:16:55.240 Eighteen Republicans just joined the Dems in voting for this madness.

00:17:01.080 Must be nice to have Zelensky boy summer on yachts in the Mediterranean.

00:17:07.460 Any notice of the Democrats are voting for something on defense? 0.52

00:17:11.220 It's rotten, totally rotten.

00:17:13.680 um we just went through in this issue now the 10-year uh steve you see this 10-year because

00:17:20.480 we're running a little hot unemployment these are good things it's about growth but inflation's up

00:17:26.100 i don't think i i don't see the fed doing a rate cut which i know president trump wants i don't

00:17:30.340 see that happening um they're they're they're handling uh starting to stop quantitative easing

00:17:36.500 which uh the biden administration was doing and starting to do you know worse is going to think

00:17:41.380 about quantitative tightening but somehow capital has not gotten the message right at 40 trillion

00:17:48.060 and true two trillion dollar deficits because every time they put out a budget or say something

00:17:53.640 the number blows through that because they spend more money and somehow the tax revenues don't

00:17:58.080 catch up with it the nine billion dollars i want everybody in this audience to just ask yourself

00:18:02.740 right now. What would your community, your city, your state do with $9 billion? Why do we continue

00:18:12.720 to allow the Democrats to drive this and these woke neocon Republicans, 18 of them, who are the

00:18:20.460 worst of the worst, to pile in here and to support $9 billion to what is the most corrupt administration

00:18:28.460 in the world, Zelensky's government, and Steve, you know, MTG asked, I think it was three years

00:18:34.280 ago, demanded that if we did anything else, well, when basically McConnell got turfed out as leader

00:18:39.380 because, you know, he died on it. He took his spear in getting that last big Ukraine funding.

00:18:47.120 It was all contingent bound one thing. We were going to do forensic accounting and forensic

00:18:51.720 audits on this. We've done nothing on that. Steve Kortez, your thoughts.

00:18:56.700 That's correct. And we have sent in total hundreds of billions of dollars to Ukraine.

00:19:01.600 We don't even know exactly how much we've sent, by the way.

00:19:03.960 So not only do we not get an audit on the Ukrainian side, where it's being stolen systemically,

00:19:09.480 but even on the U.S. side, we don't know exactly, in part because a lot of it's sent over via intelligence budgets

00:19:14.820 and it's not publicly accounted for, but we know that it's into the hundreds of billions of dollars.

00:19:18.960 But, you know, Steve, if you want sort of a cheat sheet in politics to know who are the worst people in Washington, D.C.,

00:19:25.780 Ukraine is the issue you look at. And look at votes like this. Not surprisingly, all the Dems

00:19:30.500 voted for it. That should be the first red flag, obviously, you know, as you mentioned. But then

00:19:34.480 also, which Republicans? And let me name some names. Here's some of the Republicans who voted

00:19:38.500 for this madness. Fitzpatrick from Pennsylvania. Garbarino from New York. Lawler from New York.

00:19:44.360 Jimenez from Florida. Mike McCall from Texas. Max Miller from Ohio. Those are a few of the 18

00:19:50.620 sellout, collaborationist Republicans who believe that it's smart for America right now to borrow,

00:19:56.940 we don't have this money, to go and borrow at increasingly higher interest rates, to your

00:20:01.120 point, Steve, to borrow $9 billion to send to the most corrupt leader in the world. And it's not an

00:20:08.680 exaggeration to say that. Yes, he is even more corrupt than Putin. He is even more corrupt than 0.99

00:20:13.240 other dictators out there in the world. Everyone around him, including his number two, effectively 0.96

00:20:18.480 the co-president Yermak. They have all been indicted. Many of them have fled overseas. They

00:20:23.460 are fugitives abroad in hiding. This is a kleptocracy. It's not an ally of the United States.

00:20:29.580 This war is not in the national interest of the United States. And yet we continue to borrow

00:20:34.380 mountains of money that we cannot afford to borrow to send to Ukraine at a time when economic

00:20:41.220 anxiety in this country is at extremely elevated levels. So this needs to be called out. And these

00:20:48.100 Republicans especially need to be called out for this treachery really against the American people.

00:20:54.300 How did we not get the audits?

00:20:56.580 Yermak, the chief of staff, I mean, he's really the guy that runs the country.

00:21:00.080 Zelensky is the he's the he's the poster boy.

00:21:03.040 He goes around to Davos and gives speeches or comes to Washington.

00:21:06.080 It's Yermak that does it.

00:21:07.020 Yermak is is now indicted.

00:21:09.380 How do we not have three years into this hundred?

00:21:11.720 Your point is so we've given him hundreds of billions of dollars in both weapons and cash.

00:21:17.240 We're underwriting their government, I think, the tune of $5 billion a month, or Europe's

00:21:21.160 throwing in some coin there, but we pick up a share of it.

00:21:24.540 Why have we not gotten any audit to tell us where our money went?

00:21:29.100 Yeah, well, there is no good explanation.

00:21:31.160 I think one of the explanations, if we want to be really cynical, but I think this is

00:21:34.820 probably correct, one reason we haven't gotten an audit is because a true, full, transparent

00:21:40.340 audit of Ukraine would undoubtedly implicate a lot of Americans who are participating in

00:21:45.560 the fraud.

00:21:45.940 In other words, some of that capital, some of the massive skim that is going on, and I really shouldn't even call it a skim because that makes it sound like it's not large scale. Some of the large scale larceny that is going on of American money is ending up back in the pockets and bank accounts of Americans, of corrupt Americans and leftist American organizations, for example.

00:22:05.020 So that is part of the scam here. And part of why Washington is so eager to continue to fund this ridiculous war that, again, doesn't involve a U.S. vital national interest. Part of why D.C. is so hellbent on funding it is because part of the proceeds do a U-turn. They do a circle back to Washington, D.C. itself.

00:22:24.340 So I think that's one of the reasons that we haven't gotten a full audit.

00:22:27.300 But listen, I'm confident we will.

00:22:28.760 Here's the path.

00:22:30.200 We've got to get to a ceasefire, and soon.

00:22:32.760 And President Trump is the only person on earth who can make that happen.

00:22:35.260 And I think he will make it happen.

00:22:36.840 Once we get to a ceasefire, then we must demand elections.

00:22:39.880 Zelensky is not going to just voluntarily hold elections, right, which he has now put

00:22:43.100 off for years, because he doesn't want to face the Ukrainian people who have had it

00:22:46.940 with his corruption.

00:22:47.780 But once we force him to face an election, he will lose that election.

00:22:51.740 And once he does, then a new government in Kiev can finally do what should have been done years ago, which is a full audit, full transparency over what happened.

00:23:01.060 And I think if that occurs, by the way, if you think there's been a lot of indictments so far, there's going to be far more indictments from the United States.

00:23:07.560 If you steal money from the United States, it is a crime against the American people. It doesn't matter where it happens, right?

00:23:12.480 It's sort of like those FIFA guys when we indicted them over in Switzerland.

00:23:15.380 I'm confident that eventually we, the United States, will end up indicting Zelensky.

00:23:20.100 So we're going to go from being his biggest financial backers, I believe, to those who are charging him with crimes, crimes against the people of the United States, certainly crimes against his own people as well.

00:23:30.740 But I think eventually that's where we go. And that's not a crazy path. I mean, that can happen in the next year and a half, say, Steve.

00:23:37.300 And in fact, I think it's likely to happen. I mean, this is a hope for a wish list kind of thing. I think that is likely going to be the path.

00:23:45.100 But in the meantime, hey, Congress, hey, Republicans, don't borrow billions of dollars to send into the kleptocracy of Zelensky in Kiev. 0.87

00:23:55.120 That is not what we sent you to Washington, D.C. to do. 0.84

00:23:57.620 We don't have this money.

00:23:59.040 We shouldn't be borrowing money for things that are not existential to the success of the United States.

00:24:04.080 And this is the opposite of something that is integral to our successes of people.

00:24:08.400 So in this wilderness of mirrors, which is the combination of the defense industry, the intelligence, and Capitol Hill, i.e. the deep state and their adjacent allies, we got to look with total clarity on these things.

00:24:22.420 Number one, Todd Blanche has been now nominated, is going to be nominated by president very quickly to be attorney general.

00:24:28.240 You got Bill Pulte, supposed to go over interim basis, over to D&I.

00:24:33.560 The Republicans are holding up FISA.

00:24:36.240 That, oh, so we don't do that.

00:24:37.500 You know, they got the gun to the head.

00:24:38.880 Oh, if you don't do this, we're not going to extend FISA.

00:24:42.420 Also, Brandon Weikert.

00:24:43.920 So Kurt Mill is going to join us on that momentarily.

00:24:46.260 We've got Brandon Weikert on.

00:24:49.200 We've been a big advocate.

00:24:50.440 It's time now because the strategic interests are totally separate.

00:24:53.500 Just stop giving Israel money. 0.72

00:24:55.380 They can afford it. 0.99

00:24:56.060 They can pay themselves.

00:24:57.360 They're backdooring it into this integrated industrial base that passed last night.

00:25:03.120 They're holding President Trump up on FISA.

00:25:05.520 Do we care about FISA?

00:25:06.400 FISA is the tool they've used to suppress us.

00:25:09.000 Why do we care about FISA?

00:25:10.320 Is it just evaporate, correct?

00:25:12.240 And also this thing with Israel of combining, oh, we know the memorandum of understanding. 0.53

00:25:17.120 This will be the last one we sign.

00:25:18.600 However, they want to merge the industrial basis.

00:25:21.420 How does any of this make sense for the United States of America and her citizens, sir?

00:25:27.260 Yeah, well, the answer is it does not.

00:25:28.960 It does not make life on Main Street better for the United States. 1.00

00:25:31.660 You're exactly correct on Israel.

00:25:33.360 Israel is a wealthy nation that has been generously supported by the American people for going on a century now.

00:25:40.000 And they promise that they're going to phase out or that they're going to eventually term out of being a charity case for the United States. 0.51

00:25:46.580 Well, how about today? How about tomorrow? Why does this have to be years off in the future, Netanyahu?

00:25:51.380 Why can't this be right now? And regarding FISA, Steve, I think you're exactly correct. 0.55

00:25:55.780 This has been one of the most abused statutes in all of American history. 0.97

00:26:00.220 probably began with good intentions, right, to protect our nation against foreigners,

00:26:05.240 especially foreigners operating here in the United States, but in fact has been unfortunately 0.65

00:26:10.420 transformed into a weapon, a political weapon against those of us on the conservative and

00:26:15.660 right-wing side of the aisle. So I think it's much better to let this fade away because of

00:26:19.940 how badly it has been abused and perverted over the years. So no, on both of those points,

00:26:25.940 and then I'd say a related point of Ukraine, it's time to prioritize Main Street USA. It's time to

00:26:32.800 borrow less to try to get those interest rates contained, and it's time to get to peace in

00:26:38.020 Ukraine, because nobody benefits except for the oligarchs, okay? The oligarchs of the U.S. and

00:26:43.740 Ukraine, who benefit, unfortunately, from continuing this war. Certainly, regular Ukrainians 1.00

00:26:49.320 do not, right? Ukrainian men, Russian men have died, unfortunately, by the hundreds of thousands

00:26:55.160 in a war that should have never happened. And that can still be successfully diplomatically 0.63

00:27:00.100 resolved. But that's not going to happen as long as we keep feeding the machine, as long as we keep

00:27:05.580 pouring fuel, meaning American capital, into Zelensky's kleptocracy. That has to stop. 0.94

00:27:11.900 And unfortunately, we saw just last night, where are the priorities of these Republicans? I mean,

00:27:16.160 here's the thing, Steve, we're heading into midterms where we know the GOP has an uphill

00:27:20.120 battle. I think it's a winnable battle, but it's uphill, right? And primarily because of the

00:27:23.980 economy. What kind of message does it send to struggling Americans who are upset about the

00:27:29.060 bill they're facing at the grocery store, the bill they're facing at the gas station right now 0.86

00:27:32.380 to say, we're going to send $9 billion to Zelensky, to a totally corrupt war that you 0.79

00:27:39.780 have no interest in America? Where do we go to get your content, sir?

00:27:45.000 Yeah, please go to cortesinvestigates.com. Cortez with an S at the end. Thank you so much, Steve.

00:27:50.200 As a very wise man, Steve Cortez said,

00:27:52.600 the vital national security interest of the United States is the southern border of the United States,

00:27:57.520 not the eastern Russian-speaking border of two Slavic entities, Ukraine and Mother Russia.

00:28:04.960 Short commercial break.

00:28:06.240 We got Kurt Mills, Brandon Weikert.

00:28:08.560 We're going to talk about FISA and this merger of the industrial bases next.

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00:29:41.140 I think another thing that's really important to keep in mind as well is what happened with FISA, you know, that we saw kind of this failure to pass FISA, which is the government surveillance program.

00:29:55.340 I mean, that is now in danger of going dark, something that is a lot of lawmakers argue is pretty dangerous to the government.

00:30:02.240 So that's another problem they are facing. A lot of Republicans revolting on that because of this Pulte appointment.

00:30:08.240 All to say at the same time, Democrats really trying to take advantage of this moment and the rifts within the party to force some of these politically damaging votes for Republicans.

00:30:19.600 Let me have it. Just hold the rest. We've got a great cold open there.

00:30:23.180 So, folks, just to make sure this is your heads on right about this.

00:30:28.740 We don't want FISA. FISA has been a tool of repression.

00:30:33.620 And now they're trying to hold President Trump hostage.

00:30:38.240 As they held him hostage on Save America Act, on all these different things,

00:30:43.020 by, oh, we're not going to work with you, we're not going to pass it

00:30:45.140 unless you get rid of Pulte, or we're not going to confirm Todd Blanche. 0.98

00:30:49.800 Screw you. 0.98

00:30:51.220 Let it expire. 0.99

00:30:53.220 This is like we're now in Alice of Wonderland.

00:30:56.280 We're down the rabbit hole, or the wilderness of mirrors,

00:31:00.220 as they call the intelligence community.

00:31:02.660 They're trying to confuse you.

00:31:03.500 In the fog of war, let's make sure we are very clear

00:31:06.280 about what our objectives are.

00:31:08.500 We don't want to empower the deep state anymore.

00:31:10.500 Look who is hammering about FISA.

00:31:17.760 It's Mark Warner.

00:31:18.860 It's Tom Cotton.

00:31:20.780 Just those two, Lindsey Graham. 0.94

00:31:22.280 That means out, done, not interested.

00:31:26.580 Brandon Weicker is about to blow your head up.

00:31:28.440 Not only are we talking about, and this is a misdirection play.

00:31:32.060 Israel is plenty wealthy enough.

00:31:33.420 Look, they have their own set of strategic interests,

00:31:36.100 And I'm a big supporter of Israel.

00:31:37.800 I'm not a supporter of the Greater Israel Project. 0.96

00:31:41.000 That's what's gotten us in this mess.

00:31:43.180 Certainly Netanyahu.

00:31:44.160 And the president not only said it, then when Tel Aviv Levin and these guys came out and said, oh, it's a leak, it's all fabricated, it's made up, President Trump goes with Miranda Devine and confirms what he told Netanyahu.

00:31:55.220 Now, this is in a war that President Trump is trying to wrap up.

00:31:58.560 And he got nothing but bad intelligence the entire time on this.

00:32:02.040 history will prove well first off you can see factually right now but history will prove me

00:32:07.660 correct on this so saying that hey they don't need any more money and they have their own

00:32:13.340 strategic interest they don't want to be a protectorate fine go do your own thing but

00:32:17.900 you got to pay for it and we don't need 10 years sign another mo you're sending another 10 years

00:32:21.760 and they know they're getting pressure so we're going to stop it now so what happens you get an

00:32:26.340 end run to merge our industrial basis and they present oh we're going to do trade now trade not

00:32:31.460 We do trade, we do our own thing, and maybe we do joint projects.

00:32:36.880 We do like to do the British, there's no merger.

00:32:39.500 On top of that, Weikert's about to tell you they're trying to merge the intelligence groups.

00:32:45.260 Now, I don't know why they would want to merge it since Mossad runs the deal over the CIA,

00:32:50.460 and this is why Tom Cotton is trying to take D&I and make it just some sort of post office box.

00:32:57.220 This is why they hate Pulte being named over there.

00:33:01.460 Kurt Mills, let's start with FISA.

00:33:04.220 Why do we, if Lindsay, first off, by definition, if Lindsey Graham, Tom Cotton, and Mark Warner, and Tim Kaine, and I can keep going,

00:33:12.100 if these, if the neocon, deep state, House of Lords representatives want it on any topic, if they want it, we don't.

00:33:22.620 So tell me about FISA.

00:33:23.780 So how can they possibly have a situation they're trying to hold the president hostage on on an acting DNI director and his attorney general that he wants and saying, hey, you know, Pfizer is not going to pass.

00:33:35.240 We don't want it. How do we get in a situation that they think they can hold us up on this, sir?

00:33:39.760 Well, it's a rather hilarious piece of leverage, as you've noticed. So it's probably a thing that

00:33:47.120 President Trump's base does not want. And they're going to try to use it and intimidate the White

00:33:52.300 House to potentially pull some of these nominees. I think this is an opportunity for Trump to sort

00:33:58.600 of return to his populist roots and say, he doesn't want this, as you just laid out. This

00:34:04.020 has a long, long, long history of perpetuating the mistakes of the war on terror. This was a

00:34:11.180 thing that was really spearheaded during the Bush administration and continued very controversially

00:34:16.580 and lavishly under the Obama administration. And it's something that people have wanted

00:34:22.340 President Trump in both terms to reform. And, you know, look, the president himself during

00:34:27.860 Russiagate was probably a subject of inappropriate government spying and surveillance. This affects

00:34:33.720 all Americans top to bottom. If they can get presidential candidates, if they can get sitting

00:34:38.400 presidents of the United States or presidents-elect, they can get anybody. The term deep state is

00:34:43.920 probably abused. If this isn't a deep state, the deep state doesn't exist. No, no, but this is

00:34:49.920 their tool. We were abused. Look, the pattern of evidence here is overwhelming. This started back

00:34:56.080 in the spring of 2016 when they realized President Trump, after Super Tuesday, when they realized

00:35:03.700 president trump then candidate trump was real and ted cruz would never be able to stand up to him

00:35:08.580 he was going to be the nominee and as i kept telling him over and over and over again oh by

00:35:13.300 the way this one ben benji shapiro accused me of turning breitbart into trump pravda when i just

00:35:21.060 would tell people 100 metaphysical certitude donald trump is going to be the next president

00:35:27.500 united states he'll beat hillary clinton and people are laughing my face hey he's not going

00:35:30.740 win the primary. He can't possibly be Clinton, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Well, you know

00:35:36.160 who believed us? The deep state. That's where they started using this abuse of FISA to start

00:35:41.440 monitoring people. It's got to go. Maybe years from now, something will be worked out, but not

00:35:45.660 right now. They're threatened. This is what's absurd. The MAGA base hates this. MAGA has been

00:35:51.440 against this from day one. How can they possibly think that they can hold us hostage on President

00:35:56.980 Trump needs men of action right now. He needs guys like Pulte over at D&I. He needs, although

00:36:03.640 I think Tulsi's done a great job. Obviously, her husband's very, very ill. She just said yesterday,

00:36:07.960 I think she's been in the hospital for the last couple of days with him. He's going through

00:36:10.620 surgery. He needs Todd Blanche to do an amazing job. They're holding up his nominees, the second

00:36:16.420 wave of nominees over FISA. In what world does that make sense, Kurt Mills? Well, the White House

00:36:22.380 is officially pushing it, but I think the White House is an attentive and you have people,

00:36:26.980 like, you know, your longtime associate, Seb Gorka, the counterterrorism chief.

00:36:32.780 These are the kind of sort of neoconservative voices in the White House who want to be a rubber stamp for this renewal.

00:36:39.000 So, you know, you have a situation where I don't think the president is really abreast of the details here.

00:36:43.500 And you have facets of the administration that are pushing something that Bush would have wanted,

00:36:48.520 that Biden would have wanted, that Obama would have wanted,

00:36:50.840 that almost any non-populous president of the United States would want.

00:36:53.780 And the goal here is pretty clear by Hill Hawks like Lindsey Graham, by the Tom Cottons of the world, by, you know, people like CIA director and former secretary of state, Mike Pompeo.

00:37:04.520 They want to wait Trump out and they want to get, you know, somebody less curious in there after him and keep this thing rolling.

00:37:11.440 And I think this is an opportunity, you know, at this particular time, chaos is the latter.

00:37:16.060 If this thing expires in June, I think some of the powers will remain for months and months and months.

00:37:21.260 But if it has made it, you know, oxygen is a bad thing for things like FISA.

00:37:26.540 Surveillance and oppression only work when the population is not paying attention to what the government is doing. 0.62

00:37:33.800 And now with Palantir and all these guys, you see them at the White House all the time. 0.98

00:37:37.960 This has got to be shut down.

00:37:38.900 Brandon Weikert, let's start with your thoughts on FISA.

00:37:42.380 But I want to get into what happened last night with this.

00:37:45.080 We're now merging industrial bases.

00:37:46.660 This is a workaround to the, we identified the memorandum of understanding has got to go, no more money.

00:37:52.720 If they want their own strategy, that's fine.

00:37:55.080 They don't need to be a protectorate.

00:37:56.840 You're an independent nation state.

00:37:58.520 Go for it.

00:37:59.080 If you want to do that, that's fine.

00:38:00.880 But that's on you.

00:38:01.960 Now we got, now we're merging.

00:38:03.500 Now we're something much darker and more troubling.

00:38:06.140 And you've now dropped the bomb on us that they're going to do with the intelligence agencies also.

00:38:10.820 Give me your thoughts first on FISA.

00:38:12.260 How are they holding us hostage on FISA?

00:38:14.020 Well, I think Kurt put it best. And I would just remind everybody, FISA emanated from Jimmy Carter's administration. So I don't know why anybody on the right would want this thing passing. And I think that right now the deep state is trying to wait out Trump with this.

00:38:30.340 And so I think we're going to have to wait and see because FISA has a massive amount of bipartisan support.

00:38:36.300 And I would just also remind everybody the NSA is heavily, heavily dependent on not just the FISA courts with all the electronic surveillance, but all these data centers, Steve, that you've been talking with Joe Allen about for years.

00:38:51.080 The data centers are not just about AI.

00:38:53.580 That's sort of a false notion.

00:38:56.020 It's really about providing greater bandwidth to the surveillance state.

00:39:00.340 There's a facility in Utah that the NSA built that basically harbors all of the collected transmissions of every American citizen since the Patriot Act was passed in 2001.

00:39:10.520 And the NSA has been desperately trying to use AI and other ways to collate and sort through all of that information to create a digital electronic profile of every single American.

00:39:23.460 It is the greatest violation of the Fourth Amendment in American history.

00:39:26.860 so i think that we should get rid of it but i don't yet know if congress is willing to do that

00:39:32.760 oh no congress is an adjunct to the uh to the deep state you saw the 18 collaboration this last night

00:39:39.280 on on uh on ukraine give me uh now give me the bad news about this workaround i want to talk

00:39:45.460 about because i didn't they do this by by just uh a voice vote they didn't want their names on

00:39:50.780 the record talk to me about the merger of the two industrial bases here yeah so i just want to give

00:39:55.220 a shout out to, and I know he's a Democrat, but Ro Khanna bathed himself in glory yesterday at

00:39:59.960 that committee hearing. He was the only one who had the gumption to stand up and try to get this

00:40:04.060 thing stripped out, which is section 224 of the NDAA. And of course, bipartisan agreement killed

00:40:10.880 his attempt to remove it, but he fought the good fight. Nonetheless, it does look like it is now

00:40:16.800 going to the floor. Massey is saying he will try to get it stripped. But the key thing here to

00:40:21.900 understand is obviously there is a bipartisan support for integrating our defense industrial

00:40:29.780 base with Israel's defense industrial base. Their argument is this actually short-term benefits the

00:40:36.500 United States because basically we can't produce and massively scale up advanced technology quick

00:40:44.700 enough. Israel can help us do that. But of course, it's a one-sided deal because Israel really is

00:40:51.540 going to be gaining access to all of our systems at a much greater clip than we'll gain of theirs. 0.85

00:40:57.300 So this is all a means of backdooring the support. And I am, again, fearful that with the level of

00:41:03.620 bipartisan support, unless the war room posse can get people to call Congress every day from now

00:41:10.700 until the floor vote, until we can pressure these people, they might get this through.

00:41:14.980 Hang on, hang on. We'll do it. We'll do it. But I just want to step back for a second.

00:41:18.940 Yeah.

00:41:19.640 What is the logic of this?

00:41:21.320 What is the argument for why this makes sense for the United States of America?

00:41:25.000 We've never done this, even given the special relationship with the Brits.

00:41:28.240 We don't have this.

00:41:29.700 And that seems to be working well.

00:41:31.780 I don't, this thing seems so dramatic and it seems like a workaround because now we've

00:41:37.060 identified we're not going to be giving them any more money or free arms, right?

00:41:40.340 Those days are over.

00:41:41.680 That this is a workaround.

00:41:42.480 Just take a minute here or 90 seconds to walk through exactly what is the merger of these

00:41:47.180 two industrial bases.

00:41:48.420 Well, the proponents in Congress are saying it'll give us access to advanced quantum computing systems. We'll basically be able to take any advanced technology that they're developing in Israel, pick and choose what we want, and then we can bring it over here and scale it. And vice versa, the Israelis will be able to do that. And according to the supporters, because we're so aligned with Israel on everything, it'll benefit Israel because they're doing our bidding for us in the Middle East.

00:42:15.340 that's what the proponents say but obviously the more nefarious side is that this allows for israel

00:42:22.540 to have foreign aid cut off without actually losing foreign aid from us it just goes in

00:42:28.100 through section 224 and yeah okay but here's the point i'm going to go break kurt stick around i

00:42:33.820 want to get to the intelligence part of this and get your thoughts also here's the bottom line and

00:42:38.000 i think this is healthy they're not a they don't want to be a protector it's a bunch of blowback

00:42:43.680 in Israel on that. That word I pushed has become their third rail. They don't want to be a

00:42:48.860 protect. That's fine. They're an independent nation state. They should have their own strategy.

00:42:53.560 Their own strategy should also be backed up by the military capabilities and where we can work

00:42:57.400 together, we work together. What you just said right there, hey, how about this Congress? Let's

00:43:01.640 go a la carte. If they've got something in quantum computing, we do some joint project. We do it all

00:43:06.600 the time with nations. This is a workaround. And the proponents say, well, now it's so strategic. 0.76

00:43:13.200 No, the call the other day where we are in the Iran war shows you Israel has its own interests.

00:43:20.780 It still wants to take down the regime.

00:43:22.780 But more importantly, it has things it wants to do in Lebanon and with other proxies that are not now in our purview.

00:43:32.720 They are an independent nation state.

00:43:34.880 It's time to be an independent nation state.

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00:45:12.360 War Room. Do it today. American people are tired of the arrogance and insolence of Prime Minister

00:45:22.860 Netanyahu telling America what we should do. The entire country of Israel has a GDP that is less

00:45:31.980 than a single town in my district. Yet somehow Netanyahu thinks he could tell the American people

00:45:38.620 what we should do. The person who's most upset with him right now is President Donald Trump.

00:45:44.320 And everyone in America, whether you're a Republican, an Independent, or a Democrat,

00:45:49.660 says that we need to tell Netanyahu that America calls the shots,

00:45:55.080 not the prime minister of any other country.

00:45:57.020 They want less cooperation and blank checks to Israel, not more.

00:46:04.460 Only the United States Congress would dream up at this moment,

00:46:08.200 let's actually do more for Israel, not less.

00:46:10.980 And that's what Section 2024 does.

00:46:13.520 It's a pretty simple thing.

00:46:15.180 Should we do more for Israel than we already do, or should we do less?

00:46:19.160 If you think we should do more for Israel, you should be against my amendment.

00:46:23.560 If you think we should do less for Israel at the time that he's arrogantly telling Donald Trump what to do, then you should be for my amendment.

00:46:31.460 Now, let me just be clear.

00:46:33.240 Mr. Netanyahu actually wrote to a member of Congress to put this Section 224 into the bill.

00:46:40.460 This is clearly a workaround.

00:46:43.220 Don't take my and don't don't get upset with me.

00:46:45.760 You can be.

00:46:46.920 But it's Trump.

00:46:48.520 Think about when that leaked the other day.

00:46:51.280 Mark Levin's going, there's got to be an FBI investigation and people have to be arrested.

00:46:57.260 Yo, Mark, it was a guy named Donald J. Trump that told the media, okay?

00:47:01.380 And then he told it again with Miranda Devine.

00:47:05.560 This is more than just aid, though.

00:47:07.820 I don't think Roe actually framed it in the best way.

00:47:14.380 because this is different than just given aid and weapon systems.

00:47:18.180 This is now integrated in like you're one thing.

00:47:22.100 We saw the problems with this in the Iran war.

00:47:26.400 Where did we see the problems? 0.70

00:47:27.940 In these joint command centers.

00:47:30.320 We still don't know.

00:47:31.200 I mean, we know, but we won't come forward and say it.

00:47:33.840 Two issues that arrived that drove the entire direction of this war

00:47:37.580 was that first Saturday night or maybe the second Saturday

00:47:40.620 where the Israelis bombed the oil refinery capacity or storage facilities in Tehran

00:47:48.620 and tried to turn it into Dresden.

00:47:50.940 Remember the finger pointing on that?

00:47:52.240 How did that happen?

00:47:53.000 Oh, we made a mistake we didn't tell you.

00:47:54.360 You can't make mistakes.

00:47:55.380 These are joint groups.

00:47:58.560 Number two was when they decided of their own to go bomb the gas facilities 0.99

00:48:08.020 in the Persian Gulf that are jointly held by the Persians 0.68

00:48:12.320 and Qatar, but managed by Qatar.

00:48:16.040 That shifted, as you remember, if you follow the show,

00:48:18.960 the center of gravity of battle,

00:48:20.780 what Napoleon would talk about in Clausewitz,

00:48:22.920 the center of gravity of the battle to the Persian Gulf,

00:48:26.800 where it has never returned back to Tehran

00:48:30.760 and what was initially our strategic center of this campaign.

00:48:34.740 And hence, we are where we are.

00:48:38.020 You can't integrate these two defense bases.

00:48:40.380 That is just totally, completely inappropriate.

00:48:43.620 It's never happened in the United States.

00:48:45.440 We are an independent nation.

00:48:47.440 They are an independent nation.

00:48:49.240 It needs to start operating like an independent nation.

00:48:52.420 They don't want to be a protectorate.

00:48:53.800 If you want to be a protectorate, then, hey, we tell you what to do,

00:48:56.540 and you're just going to give us a cheery eye-eye and do it.

00:48:59.280 If you want to be independent, and you should be independent,

00:49:01.660 you have to you got it you got to get off of um these concepts and particularly this this is

00:49:10.020 netanyahu trying to be a wise guy this is just trying to be a wise guy kurt mills this one i

00:49:15.820 find the most reprehensible and greasiest of all right your thoughts on this sir

00:49:21.960 yeah i mean look uh congressman khan is going after malga's votes um i think it's pretty clear

00:49:28.860 He's interested in running for president in 2028. And, you know, that's the kind of boisterous sort of backbench House speech that gets attention at a time when people are very frustrated with the U.S. relationship with Israel.

00:49:40.240 What is broadly going on here, and I think you correctly amended or improved upon his comments, is that the Israelis are trying to front load a bunch of arrangements with the United States in the 2020s before the worst happens to them in the eyes of the American public.

00:49:57.620 They know the die is cast. They know the clock is ticking and that younger generations are revolted by the way we treat this, quote, special relationship, that we might not have much relationship at all in the not too distant future.

00:50:13.780 So what does the Netanyahu administration and the broader Israeli state push for?

00:50:18.620 They want to have a 20 year MOU memorandum understanding that's going to come up fairly soon.

00:50:24.260 They want to embed intelligence sharing and military collaboration throughout the government in ways that, you know, really require a lot of attention to extract.

00:50:36.760 And, you know, a lot of these congressmen don't read these bills, don't want to touch the hot issue of Israel, even though it was it was absolutely crucial to the mistaken decision to go to war.

00:50:50.060 And some of the most reckless elements of this war, you flagged the oil facility bombing.

00:50:55.400 They either did not tell the administration that or just thought they could get away with it with no reprisals or consequence.

00:51:03.020 I mean, this is who we are dealing with here.

00:51:04.560 This is a tale that wags the dog, and I think it is high time for recalibration of the relationship.

00:51:14.880 Kurt, hang on for one second.

00:51:15.880 I want to go back.

00:51:16.640 And, Kurt, if you can stay through a short break, I want to keep you on because I want to get into Brandon Weicker.

00:51:21.020 Brandon, give me a minute before we go to break of the second bombshell you're dropping on.

00:51:25.460 Now, it's bad enough on the industrial basis.

00:51:27.620 They want to merge the intelligence apparatuses?

00:51:29.920 Yeah, that's correct.

00:51:31.040 Section 622 of the Intelligence Authorization Act is currently rending its way through the United States Senate.

00:51:38.960 It is not a coincidence that this is being pushed at the same time Section 224 is.

00:51:44.720 Basically, it moves Israel from a transactional partner to a trusted partner of the United States.

00:51:52.840 And the only reason it was a transactional partner for the last several decades 0.51

00:51:56.400 is because there's verified evidence that the U.S. intelligence community cannot trust Israel's intelligence services the way that it trusts the five eyes. 0.62

00:52:06.760 That's the Anglosphere, Britain, us, the Canadians, New Zealand and Australia combined into one seamless fusion. 0.85

00:52:15.600 We don't include Israel because we know we can't trust them. 0.99

00:52:18.480 But that is now going to change fundamentally if this Section 622 passes in the final version. 0.99

00:52:26.400 Well, I think there's some investigations going on right now that would be bombshells that might put some exclamation points next to trusted.

00:52:34.540 I tell you what, you guys stick around.

00:52:36.300 Take a short commercial break.

00:52:37.420 Here's what I'd like.

00:52:38.180 If Mossad would toss us the keys back from the CIA, maybe we do this.

00:52:44.540 They're running the deal.

00:52:47.020 Exquisite intelligence.

00:52:48.200 If the intelligence was so exquisite, why are we are where we are?

00:52:54.600 If it was so exquisite and presented to the President of the United States factually, why are we where we are?

00:53:08.280 Short break. Back in a moment.

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Bannon's War Room - June 05, 2026

Episode 5424： Job Report Comes In Positive; Fusing Israeli And US Intelligence

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