Bannon's War Room - Episode 5436： Forcing The Senate To Uphold The Constitution; Night Three Of Unrest In Belfast

00:00:00.000 Bombing tonight.

00:00:02.000 Yeah, there will be more bombing tonight.

00:00:04.020 It'll be bigger, bigger, more powerful.

00:00:08.600 Don't forget, we've knocked out all of their anti-aircraft.

00:00:11.080 They don't have any anti—they have nothing.

00:00:12.860 I mean, they may get lucky with a shoulder weapon or something,

00:00:15.460 but for the most part, you know, they have no defense.

00:00:19.820 What did the representative say in your phone call with them?

00:00:22.540 Excuse me.

00:00:23.160 They're finished, but the papers, the media refuses to write it.

00:00:28.840 They're finished.

00:00:30.000 We can walk in there tomorrow.

00:00:32.480 We could take soldiers.

00:00:33.560 I don't want to have boots on the ground.

00:00:35.200 But if I wanted to, we could put a small group of soldiers and take over the whole place.

00:00:41.440 Need to turn to the news.

00:00:42.420 The United States and Iran traded strikes once again this morning.

00:00:45.600 And President Trump just told Fox News a few moments ago that the United States fired 49 Tomahawk missiles towards Iran,

00:00:52.300 along with bombing by fighter jets after saying earlier in the day

00:00:56.280 that Iranian leaders were taking, quote, too long to negotiate.

00:01:01.160 Trump also once again warned that strikes could continue if an agreement is not reached.

00:01:06.960 Now, Iran retaliated to the latest U.S. attacks by targeting American bases in Bahrain, Kuwait, and Jordan.

00:01:14.980 Sirens sounded in Bahrain, Kuwait's airspace temporarily closed,

00:01:18.680 and Americans in Jordan were warned to take cover.

00:01:22.300 There's also escalated tension in the Strait of Hormuz, which the Iranian military has now ordered completely closed to all vessels.

00:01:30.980 And just a few moments ago, President Trump took the truth social to flat out say that the U.S. will be hitting Iran again tonight.

00:01:38.560 He put it very hard, all caps, and then goes on to say this.

00:01:42.580 And at some point in the not too distant future, we will be taking Carg Island and other oil infrastructure points and assume total control of their oil and gas markets.

00:01:54.420 So if that's not an empty threat, if that's not a bluff, that is a market escalation in this conflict.

00:02:01.040 It would seem the war depends on the verge of really resuming.

00:02:04.760 So you say you're announcing you're going to hit them very hard tonight.

00:02:08.100 What went into posting that?

00:02:09.740 well it's just one of those things they have no defense they can't do anything about it

00:02:14.940 they the only thing they have is fake news you know they have the new york times write stories

00:02:20.300 like they're doing great and they're not they've been wiped out uh cnn and uh that ms now or

00:02:26.640 whatever they call it nowadays nbc had to get rid of it because it was bad for their reputation

00:02:30.920 but uh the uh the you know publicity that they have is incredible it's almost like they're doing

00:02:38.380 well and they're getting decimated, just decimated. And they're dying to make a deal.

00:02:43.140 They want to make a deal so badly. But, you know, you read the New York Times and you

00:02:47.080 read the Wall Street Journal, which is so fake. I mean, I know you guys own it, but

00:02:52.220 it's a real piece of garbage. And you read the Wall Street Journal. It's like they did 1.00

00:02:57.380 an editorial today about we're not hitting them hard enough. I mean, it's just not hitting

00:03:02.840 them hard enough. We dropped two hundred and fifty million dollars worth of bombs on them

00:03:06.260 last night. You know, the whole thing is crazy. And the one thing you brought up yesterday is

00:03:10.980 it's going to be bridging power plants next. Is that next? And yeah, but I'd rather not do it

00:03:17.180 because once you do that, the people suffer. Like I heard you mentioning water. Water is really

00:03:22.380 a devastating loss for them. I could do that in one minute. They knock out the message to the

00:03:28.840 people won't be able to drink water. I mean, what are they going to do? What is your message to the

00:03:33.680 Iranian people. Mr. President, they now have the Internet. My message to the Iranian people is

00:03:38.300 they're afraid because they have no guns and the other side has guns and they have a rally and they 1.00

00:03:44.840 get shot. They hung the wrestler and his two friends. They hung him from a crane, believe it

00:03:49.300 or not. Violet lives, a very top wrestler. And they hung him. They've killed at least 40, 40 to 0.94

00:03:57.700 50,000 people. And the people are afraid. You know, when you have a machine gun staring in the face or

00:04:02.840 when you have four snipers on four different buildings shooting people in the head, it's hard

00:04:08.580 to have a rally. If the president, there appears to be a change in strategy here. This is a much

00:04:13.080 more aggressive posture than the past where there were sort of, you know, the Iranians would do

00:04:17.280 something in the U.S. would retaliate, but not this intensely. Karg Island is a serious verbal

00:04:22.900 threat. There are enough forces in the region for the U.S. to take Karg Island. There's special

00:04:27.820 Operations Forces. There's a Marine Expeditionary Unit. That's about 2,000 Marines. And I think

00:04:33.600 there's no doubt U.S. forces could take that island. The problem would be a barrage of drones

00:04:38.860 and missiles that Iran could just keep hitting that island with. And I think there would 1.00

00:04:43.560 unquestionably be casualties. And then separately, the threat to, you know, again, saying, sign this

00:04:48.420 deal or we're going to bomb you again tonight. That's an escalation as well. The 59 Tomahawk

00:04:54.640 missiles was a serious number, but there's no nothing, no reports that I've heard of the U.S.

00:05:00.300 sort of striking power plants or bridges, the maximalist threat in the past. But this I'm going

00:05:06.860 to hit you every night approach. And particularly, as you've correctly noted, we're going to take

00:05:11.820 that's a major escalation. I think that, you know, in our 250th right now, there is nothing more

00:05:17.440 important than knowing the details of our history because there's nothing new under the sun. And if

00:05:22.340 they had not genuinely turned to God, knowing Providence is going to carry us through or

00:05:28.100 we lose, we deserve to lose.

00:05:29.840 We're not better than the British militarily, but, but, but it's just a great story.

00:05:36.280 And I think that we need to be inspired by these stories.

00:05:38.980 We need to know that these men who did the right thing when everybody would be counseling 0.87

00:05:43.520 them to stoop to what the British are doing, they refused. 0.63

00:05:47.680 They said, no, we're going to trust God.

00:05:50.160 We're going to trust Providence.

00:05:51.120 and we kind of know how it turned out.

00:05:54.040 Thursday, 11 June, year of our Lord, 2026.

00:05:56.660 Of course, Jim Rickards called it right here on the show

00:06:00.980 about we're going to go up the escalatory ladder,

00:06:03.100 and indeed we did.

00:06:04.340 Jim Rickards is going to join us in the second hour,

00:06:07.480 along with, I'm trying to track down, Eric Bolling.

00:06:09.880 We've got E.J. and Tony in the economy.

00:06:11.500 A lot going on.

00:06:12.400 We're absolutely packed, but very special announcement.

00:06:15.040 I want to bring in Tony Lyons.

00:06:16.560 Tony, I'd like you to make the announcement

00:06:20.220 because I've got a very special guest that's going to follow you and talk about this book.

00:06:24.540 But a major, I think, cultural milestone was reached last week with the Warren Posse

00:06:30.780 putting their shoulder to the wheel on just a great book.

00:06:33.940 What do we know about revolution this morning that we didn't know yesterday morning?

00:06:38.880 Yeah, what we know is that it hit number two on the New York Times bestseller list.

00:06:43.400 It should have hit number one.

00:06:45.220 It was number one on Amazon for the week.

00:06:48.320 and jill biden's book you know um that sold far fewer copies and was number five on amazon hit

00:06:57.440 number one on the times list but you know let me just say that eric has written just an historic

00:07:03.080 book just an epic book and if there's one book you read between now and july 4th it should be

00:07:09.600 this book it celebrates the greatest country in the world and that's what people want to read

00:07:15.100 And what you've seen here is that people don't want to read a book by Jill Biden, that even with everything behind it, with with packs buying hundreds or even thousands of copies with everything fixed, the book just doesn't, you know, just doesn't sell.

00:07:32.580 I mean, it's currently number 214 on Amazon.

00:07:38.820 And in its second week, Eric's book is number 21.

00:07:42.780 So it's just outselling it like crazy.

00:07:45.000 The people are speaking.

00:07:46.460 The war room posse put it here and worked so hard.

00:07:49.980 And you did just a phenomenal job getting it here.

00:07:53.080 And, you know, this is a book about the courage, endurance and bravery and faith of the American

00:07:58.860 people.

00:07:59.420 That's what people care about.

00:08:00.700 That's what they want to read.

00:08:02.580 number two is huge and we're going to drive it even more and eric it's a 600 page let's bring

00:08:07.340 in eric metaxas now the great author of this that dedicated his life to this book to tell it

00:08:12.220 to have this book come out and tell the real narrative of our country during this 250th

00:08:17.940 uh commemoration 250th anniversary of our declaration of independence the birth of the

00:08:22.620 nation eric metaxas uh what how do you feel about this being number two

00:08:26.900 Steve you ready for this I feel like I'm on the medal stand at the Olympics and they're giving

00:08:34.640 me the silver and I look over who is who has the gold wait a minute it's Leah Thomas standing there

00:08:44.000 smiling with his junk tucked fooling nobody and I guess I will take the silver under those

00:08:53.120 circumstances. There is nothing funnier to me than the fact that the New York Times has pushed 0.95

00:08:59.500 Jill Biden's book. God has done this. Let's be clear. You and the folks who watch this show,

00:09:12.080 President Trump, and the feedback I'm getting from this book, honestly, I could get choked up.

00:09:17.620 People are reading the book. It's not just a product. When you read it, it will make you

00:09:21.980 proud to be an American. It will make you excited to be an American. This is about the United States

00:09:29.280 of America. And the fact that the New York Times had to put it right in Jill Biden's book,

00:09:39.440 but the key is this, we have to keep it on the list because that's what makes it go into the

00:09:44.540 airport bookstores, God forbid, into the independent lefty bookstores so that your

00:09:48.860 average American will bump into this true story of our. Everybody want to be like the patriots

00:09:59.980 whose stories I tell in the book Revolution. So but I'm so grateful to you for having me on this

00:10:06.040 program, because if we don't get the word out the way we can get the word out, you know, Jill Biden

00:10:10.880 would be would be on the metal stand for weeks to come, which is not going to happen. Well, no, 1.00

00:10:16.260 We're going to push this now to number one.

00:10:18.220 By the way, it really is number one.

00:10:19.840 The New York Times, as you know, had to gun deck this for Joe Biden.

00:10:22.800 Nobody's reading that book.

00:10:24.180 And this book makes you smart about this amazing 250th anniversary have come.

00:10:29.980 I know you got to bounce and we're having a little technical problem with you.

00:10:32.260 Just give people the one minute elevator elevator pitch.

00:10:35.820 Why now more than ever, they have to get a copy.

00:10:38.880 They have to buy a copy for a friend.

00:10:40.640 They have to buy a copy for one of their young people in their lives, et cetera.

00:10:44.800 Yeah.

00:10:44.960 next week these are the crucial weeks uh because this has to stay in the top 10 the competition is

00:10:57.220 very very stiff uh look let's be honest the left doesn't like it you know a pro-america book um

00:11:03.320 you know by uh by somebody who loves president trump they they don't like to put it up there so

00:11:09.040 but you have to make it too big to rig so i beg people honestly no joke this is a great gift for

00:11:14.900 anybody who's interested in the history of America. I put it all in.

00:11:23.280 And a lot of it is funny and interesting. So it's not a dull read. It's not a slog.

00:11:27.560 It's a joy to celebrate the greatest nation in the history of the world. This is our season.

00:11:34.020 And you know, and I know God is doing something in this country. You can feel it.

00:11:37.520 Every time the president speaks, you can feel the confidence. Something is changing.

00:11:42.040 this is our 250th this is a major milestone and as you said before getting this book number two

00:11:48.900 on the new york times list is a

00:11:50.400 praise the lord god bless america thank you eric metaxas uh we will continue to drive this

00:12:01.080 appreciate you taking time away today do that uh tony lyons why do people this is a cultural

00:12:06.760 moment for us they've got nothing but negative books coming out they've got the jill biden thing

00:12:11.340 as a disgrace, why they weren't turfed out of the way.

00:12:15.200 First of all, it was illegitimate they were even there.

00:12:16.820 They should have been turfed out immediately

00:12:18.560 when they realized he was too senior.

00:12:21.900 Senile, what's your pitch?

00:12:24.200 Why should people go out now and get the copy

00:12:26.500 for one of the young people in their family,

00:12:29.420 a friend, et cetera, start a book club around it,

00:12:32.240 get everybody to buy a book,

00:12:33.600 make that we're going to drive this to number one

00:12:35.400 as a cultural moment here, sir.

00:12:38.460 Yeah, I would say, you know, like I said,

00:12:40.800 people should read a book about courage and endurance and bravery and faith. And that's a

00:12:48.220 story that you can believe in. That's a story that I think people want to read and celebrate

00:12:53.440 and share and back in any way that they can. And the last thing that they want to read,

00:12:59.960 they don't want to read a silly memoir by the inconsequential wife of a failed president. 0.79

00:13:07.220 You know, and, you know, to have a country where for so long libraries and bookstores and newspapers and TV shows and radio shows haven't covered books like Eric Metaxas's book, but they've carried these silly books like Jill Biden's book. 0.75

00:13:24.640 You know, we should just rebel against that. And I want people to go out and buy this book, to buy it as a gift, to share it on social media and to think about this historic moment that you can't hide the truth anymore.

00:13:39.940 It's the beginning of the end of a certain kind of censorship where you can just go online now, you know, use AI.

00:13:47.340 You can find out what's really working, what's really selling.

00:13:51.800 And there's no hiding from the censorship and propaganda and lies that we've all been subjected to for such a long time.

00:13:59.760 And that this is that moment and we should take it and keep on taking it and make the statement that we just won't stand for it anymore.

00:14:07.980 Tony, where do they go to get you on social media?

00:14:09.900 We've got about 30 seconds.

00:14:10.920 Where do they go?

00:14:12.360 Yeah, they can go to Tony Lyons is uncertain on Instagram or skyhorsepublishing.com.

00:14:19.120 Tony, congratulations.

00:14:20.580 You and Eric, fantastic.

00:14:22.500 This is a historical document.

00:14:24.780 You want to see about the revolution?

00:14:26.560 You want to see the real story of the revolution, the real narrative of the revolution?

00:14:30.280 Eric McTaxe has delivered.

00:14:31.960 600 pages, colored pictures, amazingly bound.

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00:16:44.280 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.

00:16:51.320 Okay, one, if we can put up that New York Times bestseller list, number two.

00:16:55.920 And Becca Jill Biden, come on, give me a break.

00:16:58.020 Give me a break. 1.00

00:16:58.860 Stop. 0.92

00:16:59.340 Give me a break.

00:16:59.860 that's the list grace and mo and listen we can figure out i want people to be able to get access

00:17:05.960 to that list here's what i want you to do if you feel like causing some trouble i want you to print

00:17:11.100 that list out i want you to go to your local barnes and noble after you spend 60 seconds

00:17:16.380 looking around of why there's a thousand copies of joe biden's up the front and these other

00:17:21.720 stupid hour books and you can't find metaxa's book is not up front but more importantly when

00:17:27.280 go into the stacks under american history you will not find it why the lefties of barnes and 0.99

00:17:32.880 noble do not want to promote the true story of the american revolution take that to the manager

00:17:37.800 say i need to see the manager who's running this place put it up in his grill or her grill

00:17:43.480 and say where in the hell is this book i need a copy of it where's this book why is the number

00:17:50.220 two book bestseller non-fiction in the country not in this uh story you've got 10 000 books

00:17:57.060 where is it we want it and i want it up front make a statement and you don't don't try to be

00:18:05.760 pleasant at start but look if they give you pushback say look what's the story here dude

00:18:10.900 where's the book jill biden give me a break you wonder why the country's in rot because of the

00:18:20.380 elites and the ruling class in this country mark meadows uh former chief of staff for president

00:18:25.380 Trump, I have a question. Why is the United States Senate, all they do is bitch and moan 0.99

00:18:30.420 every day, but they need money. You got to give money. You got the Senate a million things every 1.00

00:18:35.360 day, need money to hold the Senate. Please tell me because you're, you know, in the house for

00:18:41.780 those many years, you were the master strategist that got us through those years before President

00:18:45.880 Trump came up. And then in the first couple of years of President Trump, what is going on with

00:18:50.480 the Senate and what should we do about it? They're treating President Trump like a lame, worse than

00:18:54.040 lame duck? Because even the lame ducks, they kind of give them a little respect. There's no respect 0.98

00:18:57.360 here, sir. Well, there's no respect, Steve. And the interesting thing is, is they're trying to

00:19:05.840 pretend like they don't have control. But I can tell you, there is a majority of Republican

00:19:12.460 senators. All it takes is 51 people. And yet they're trying to throw it off on Elizabeth,

00:19:18.420 the parliamentarian. They're trying to throw it off on President Trump. And when they lose a

00:19:23.640 majority, they will blame it on President Trump. You and I have seen this movie before. You were

00:19:28.740 with the president when nobody believed in him. But behind the scenes, they're laughing at him.

00:19:33.940 They're suggesting, oh, well, we can't get this done. And all it takes is a little bit of courage.

00:19:39.040 For me, I think it's time we start calling out these senators and say, use the gavel. The people

00:19:47.140 have given you a mandate. But quite frankly, all it takes is 51 senators to get the noms.

00:19:52.560 We can't even get the Save America Act really passed into the president's desk, and he's used his bully pulpit for it.

00:20:01.840 It's time that we get it done, and quite frankly, the fix is in.

00:20:07.100 Just like the New York Times has got the fix in for Eric Metaxas, but the War Room Posse can put the pressure on like nobody else.

00:20:16.240 And I, for one, am going to go out and buy several copies just so that we can get in the grill of Barnes & Noble and other leftist groups that fail to cover the real story of the American history.

00:20:30.760 You, in those years in the Freedom Caucus, were not just a strategist, but also a master tactician of the mind-numbing complexity of the rules of the House and even the Senate and how you work and how you have a goal and you've got to weave through there.

00:20:45.200 this thing with president trump on the lame duck situation is about to get very serious and what i

00:20:50.540 mean is that they are they think they've got momentum now in this war powers act so they're

00:20:54.900 going to get in president trump's grill on the war powers to try to cut him off as commander-in-chief

00:20:58.900 um and and also now fisa which your buddy and my ken cucinelli refer to i think in the federalist

00:21:07.300 as the holy relic the holy relic of the deep state in this fisa situation is present are there

00:21:14.260 alternatives that president trump has if we don't keep saying we don't have 51 you can't get to 60

00:21:19.360 if you got 27 i mean to me i don't know how we go forward with thune as as the leader and the

00:21:25.520 leader is not a constitutional office unlike speaker of the house you know you know you get

00:21:30.560 i guess grasping the president pro tem is in the line of succession are there ways that we can start

00:21:35.700 to make moves at least to get leverage here even one day of a recent even one day of a recess which

00:21:41.600 they haven't given President Trump, and this to me is embarrassing, McConnell made a claim he will

00:21:46.160 never give a day of real recess in the Senate so President Trump can have some recess appointments.

00:21:52.340 What then are we to do now? All right, listen, so you and I both have talked about some of these

00:21:59.700 things that can be done. You're right. It takes more people in the Senate, so it would take 27

00:22:05.680 senators to get a new leader. Honestly, they like hiding behind John Thune because he can kind of

00:22:12.940 protect them and they don't have to take the tough votes. And yet the one thing about the

00:22:19.180 recess appointments, there are three things that could be done. One is, honestly, they could say,

00:22:27.360 we're going to leave for August. We're going to go in recess, let the president go ahead and do

00:22:32.460 recess appointments there. That would be the easiest. Senator Thune needs to feel the pressure

00:22:38.040 from the posse and others to do that. But if he doesn't do that, there is another way that you can

00:22:43.800 get this done. What can happen is the House can say, we're going to go out and recess for two or

00:22:52.000 three weeks in August and send that over to the Senate. If the Senate doesn't agree, and that's

00:23:00.420 non-debatable motions. And for those that are tuned in is actually what happens is it has to

00:23:06.500 be brought up in the Senate. Now they can amend the dates and things like that, but it actually

00:23:11.260 has to be voted on. But if they don't agree, if the Senate and the house doesn't agree,

00:23:17.020 guess who's gets to call them into recess, the president of the United States. It's in the

00:23:21.940 constitution. He can make recess appointments. Uh, he needs to send that message. His people

00:23:27.880 need to send a message. Hang on, slow down, slow down, slow down. You got me fired up. 1.00

00:23:34.540 Honey, no, no, no, because this is where you're the best. This brilliant plan is actually not

00:23:42.240 yours. It's the founders of the nation. It is in the, is it not in the constitution, sir?

00:23:48.900 It is in the constitution. It's an article two section that you can actually have this happen.

00:23:56.000 And so it doesn't take any Senate rules. It doesn't take anything other than the House and the Senate to disagree.

00:24:03.040 Once they disagree, the president can say that the Senate or Congress or the House and Congress are in recess and he can make recess appointments.

00:24:12.860 Because the brilliance of our founders, they could look downrange and they figured, hey, maybe maybe maybe in 2020, maybe 250 years or that time, you know, 200 and some years.

00:24:24.960 they could be jammed up like this. And we'll let the executive branch or let the president as the

00:24:30.520 chief executive officer of the country make that decision. Craig, let's just go back to it one more

00:24:35.440 time slowly. The Constitution says what if we find ourselves in this situation?

00:24:40.460 So the Constitution says that if there is a disagreement, it basically says that the House

00:24:46.220 and the Senate can't go out for more than three days. And that's why we have these fake performa

00:24:51.480 kind of thing. Sometimes even senators not showing up when they're, quote, in session.

00:24:56.480 But if they don't agree on a recess or the adjournment of the House and Senate, if the two

00:25:03.360 chambers don't agree, that the president can actually say that they're in recess for this

00:25:09.940 period of time and then make recess appointments. Now, listen, is that a nuclear option? It is,

00:25:17.180 but they need to let Leader Thune know that that's being discussed in the White House.

00:25:22.740 And you know what? I think he'll find religion very quickly.

00:25:27.140 Mark, tell me, what should you do with the Save America Act? We have major legislation the 0.56

00:25:32.800 president's talking about, and Cuccinelli's recommendation, Ken's recommendation says,

00:25:38.680 hey, the deep state wants the holy relic of Pfizer so much. Attach the Save America Act,

00:25:44.920 And let's see how much they want it, because they're more afraid of actually having fair elections than they are of using the tools of the deep state against the MAGA movement and the president of the United States.

00:25:55.800 Your thoughts on just the jam up in the Senate right now.

00:25:58.800 And what do we have to do to actually show the American people and get some enthusiasm in MAGA to go knock on doors for these senators?

00:26:06.220 Well, they do need to knock on doors on senators.

00:26:09.260 And some of these senators may not be up this cycle, but the posse has a long memory.

00:26:14.140 and you're able to get them fired up.

00:26:16.800 But here's the thing is there's only a couple of things

00:26:19.260 that are must pass between now and November.

00:26:21.820 FISA reauthorization is one of those.

00:26:24.380 And you're right.

00:26:25.200 It's like the holy grail for many of the people

00:26:28.260 in the deep state.

00:26:29.580 They say we can't let it lapse.

00:26:31.800 Well, that's fine.

00:26:32.900 Let's attach to Save America or at a minimum, 0.58

00:26:36.640 let's make sure that voter ID gets attached to it

00:26:39.960 and say that we're not going to pass it.

00:26:41.960 It takes just a few people in the House 0.53

00:26:43.740 a few people in the Senate. And quite frankly, a lot of the Democrats are not going to help out

00:26:51.020 with FISA unless it gets changed dramatically. And so I agree with Cooch. We need to actually

00:26:58.960 attach it. But it's not just that. Listen, we can't let one senator hold everything up. And so

00:27:06.860 what we have are lame duck senators that are holding up this president and treating him like

00:27:12.560 a lame duck president. And I, for one, am not going to stand for it. Mark, can you hold through

00:27:18.880 the break? We've got to break on in a second. I just want to hold you for a couple of minutes

00:27:21.520 on the other side. Before I go to break, though, in your beloved state of North Carolina,

00:27:27.800 you have a lame duck that I think is going out of his way to have a personal vendetta 0.95

00:27:33.020 against President Trump. Your thoughts on that? Yeah, obviously, Senator Tillis continues to make 0.94

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00:27:46.080 and quite frankly, we have a majority that doesn't need his vote. It's time that Leader Thune and

00:27:52.000 others put things on the Senate floor and say, fine, Tom, you can vote against it,

00:27:58.180 but this is not about your agenda. It's about the president's agenda.

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00:30:25.020 Here's your host, Stephen K. Van.

00:30:29.140 One more time, Mark Meadows, before you bounce.

00:30:34.640 The House.

00:30:36.700 The war room engine room is informing me.

00:30:38.860 I don't think Speaker Johnson, and even before that, McCarthy,

00:30:42.080 ever had the House out for an official recess in Trump's term either.

00:30:46.440 What has to happen there, sir?

00:30:47.940 First off, is that true?

00:30:48.980 And how does that have to work in your Constitution hardwired workaround?

00:30:57.260 Yeah. So, Steve, here's the thing that I think the posse could help with.

00:31:02.460 Politely and nicely ask Speaker Johnson, can we do a two or three week recess, preferably over 10 days?

00:31:10.480 But can we do a recess for two weeks in August?

00:31:14.040 They're going to be gone anyways.

00:31:15.320 have him communicate with Leader Thune that that's what he plans to do. They can either

00:31:22.600 get together and agree on it, or if they don't agree on it, let the House lead with a resolution

00:31:28.660 that says they're going to be out for two to three weeks in August, send it over to the Senate,

00:31:34.440 and let them deal with it. If they disagree, and once there's a disagreement between the two

00:31:41.360 chambers, the president, according to the constitution, can come in and declare them

00:31:46.680 in recess, make recess appointments. And I think that it is time for the base and the posse and

00:31:54.920 others to be energized. I think Speaker Johnson could see this as a real good tool to make sure

00:32:00.860 the president gets his team confirmed and on the job. Okay, we have our marching orders. We'll do

00:32:08.000 it. Also, we don't have a date yet, but Mark Meadows has offered up CPI. Tell people, give

00:32:14.680 a second about CPI, all the great work you guys do. You're right around the corner from the war

00:32:18.340 room on Capitol Hill. You do an amazing job, and we're going to set up to have Metaxas be

00:32:23.740 interviewed by you, and we'll live stream it on Real America's Voice and make a big evening of it.

00:32:29.560 But you do things like this all the time. Talk to people about CPI. We do. Honestly, Steve,

00:32:34.940 you and I have talked about this. It's about uniting the conservative movement. There are no

00:32:39.800 friends to the war room and the conservative movement in Washington, D.C., and yet you and I

00:32:44.900 are a couple of blocks away where we can actually make this work, and it's all about not making the

00:32:50.860 conservative partnership bigger. It's about making the conservative movement united and training and

00:32:57.280 equipping them, using tactics like we just talked about on the Senate, but it's also about getting

00:33:03.760 voices like Eric Metaxas out there. And so, yes, we will host it. We'll be glad to host it. And

00:33:10.560 we'll have a good crowd to make sure that the New York Times can't ignore this great book any longer.

00:33:18.500 One of the great things about CPI, when you guys have events, it's packed with young people. I mean,

00:33:23.720 it's just not a lot of the conservative groups you go around, guys you and I have known forever.

00:33:27.600 And look, I'm a gray beard. You've got some of the old warriors. And I love them. They're old

00:33:32.920 warriors. They got a lot of scar tissue and they show up and they're fighters. But when you go to

00:33:37.500 CPI, you get a good mix. You get the old warriors, but you also get that energy that, and there's a

00:33:42.420 lot of energy among young people in the MAGA movement and conservatives. And we just got to

00:33:47.040 tap that energy, sir. Well, I agree. Hundreds and hundreds of young people. It gives you hope when

00:33:52.900 you see these young warriors, these MAGA warriors coming out. And we're all about making sure that

00:33:59.860 the next generation gets equipped. So God bless you. Thanks for having me on. Look forward to

00:34:05.460 joining you next week. Social media, where do people get you on Twitter or anywhere else?

00:34:10.940 Yeah, at Mark Meadows on Twitter and certainly at CPI.org is our conservative partnership. But

00:34:20.080 we're glad to help and glad to continue to fight with the right message to support this great

00:34:25.880 president. Mark Meadows and Senator DeMint and many others. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you.

00:34:30.700 Let's pile into that social media. Thanks, Steve. Go over there and check you out. Thank you,

00:34:35.560 brother. Go over there and check you out. The great work they're up to. E.J. and Tony,

00:34:40.640 first, I wanted to have you on. I don't know if you have a chance to read Jeffrey Tucker's

00:34:44.680 article off Tom Elliott's math, but they do hearken back to what you've talked to us about

00:34:51.100 at the Bureau of Labor Statistics once again

00:34:55.240 and about CPI and the changes they made to CPI

00:34:58.160 over the many, many years.

00:34:59.360 And actually, it leads to a devaluation,

00:35:02.020 actually a bigger devaluation of drop in purchasing price

00:35:04.940 of the dollar, not the 20% or 22%

00:35:07.780 you and I talk about all the time.

00:35:09.380 But if you actually, Elliot went back

00:35:11.520 and backed out all those changes

00:35:13.120 over the last two or three decades.

00:35:14.580 And lo and behold, the devaluation is much greater.

00:35:19.620 Just give us your talk to because you were going to go in and clean this thing up.

00:35:23.320 This whole thing of how we look at inflation, how we look at labor statistics, people forget it's very predicated upon the official government, you know, understanding of this.

00:35:33.560 And oftentimes that is using fuzzy math, let's say, sir.

00:35:39.660 Steve, I can give you a perfect example of that in the last inflation report, not the producer price index that we got this morning, which was horrendous and happy to talk about that if you'd like.

00:35:49.420 But in the previous report, which was the Consumer Price Index, that's the bad CPI, not to be confused with the good CPI you were just talking about with Mark Meadows.

00:35:58.240 But in that CPI report, Steve, you saw used car prices decline.

00:36:03.620 Now, why was there a decline?

00:36:04.860 Because real-world prices actually went up.

00:36:07.320 The reason for the decline was because the BLS assumed that there was a very large quality improvement.

00:36:14.220 And so they assume that consumers are essentially getting a better bang for the buck.

00:36:18.620 if you want to think of it that way. And that shows up as a price decline in the data when,

00:36:23.580 in fact, the real world effect was a price increase. And that's just one example I can

00:36:29.200 give you off the top of my head because it's what just came out recently. But what you're talking

00:36:33.700 about that Jeffrey Tucker and you discussed, I actually wrote a paper for Jeffrey Tucker in

00:36:40.220 coordination. My co-author was Professor Peter St. Ange, and I coordinated with him on the paper.

00:36:45.760 And what we found in our research was that from essentially pre-COVID through 2023 or 2024, that the inflation had been much, much worse than previously estimated.

00:36:59.640 And the reason was exactly the kinds of things that Jeffrey Tucker was discussing in this more recent research, which shows that real-world prices have gone up far more than the government statistics actually indicate.

00:37:14.360 Because if you remove all of these kind of statistical tricks that have helped to put downward pressure on the CPI, then you realize, again, consumers are far worse off.

00:37:25.620 Now, I understand why the statisticians do a lot of what they do in terms of these things like quality adjustments.

00:37:32.720 You know, a car today is vastly different than a car from 40 years ago.

00:37:37.780 Of course, you want to make adjustments there in terms of things like quality.

00:37:42.640 You want to adjust for the improvement in the quality of a vehicle now that it has things like pedestrian sensors, that it has cruise control, that it has a backup camera.

00:37:52.660 I get it.

00:37:53.700 The issue, though, is that all of these different adjustments that they make, whether it's for quality or for other things, all put the same direction on their adjustment to CPI, which is downward.

00:38:05.400 In other words, all of them are going to understate the real-world price increases that we're seeing.

00:38:11.240 look at the crazy way we measure home inflation or shelter inflation. We don't even measure the

00:38:17.300 cost of home ownership anymore, Steve. We use a proxy for it. So we don't look at home prices.

00:38:22.600 We don't look at interest rates, literally the two main determinants in your monthly mortgage

00:38:27.720 payment. Instead, we just look at rents and we try to impute from that what the actual cost

00:38:33.100 of home ownership is. And no surprise, it is once again grossly underestimating the cost that

00:38:39.220 homeowners are actually facing every single day. I want to go back to the numbers today and I want

00:38:45.020 to set the predicate that there's no bigger support of President Trump in his program than

00:38:49.600 E.J. and Tony. You were going to be the nominee for the Bureau of Labor Statistics, which I still

00:38:54.160 think has to get done. But I digress. You're very close to Scott Best of the Secretary of Treasury

00:39:03.060 and Alexander Pregate and the entire team over at Treasury. You've been a pretty good surrogate

00:39:07.660 for the Treasury program because you believe in President Trump's economic program and you believe

00:39:12.520 Scott Besson was a great Secretary of Treasury with a safe pair of hands to do this. And lo and

00:39:17.080 behold, guess what? It was working. We would have you on here and it's working. You see jobs are

00:39:23.280 coming back and you're seeing growth, all of it. Now, and President Trump's got his strategic

00:39:28.600 reasons for doing this war about the nuclear weapons. But the reality is in the math. And I

00:39:33.840 want to get down to the math. What was the print today? How did that tie to yesterday? And where

00:39:39.340 do you think we are in the good old EJ and Tony give it to us with the BarkOn assessment of where

00:39:45.180 we are right now, sir? Look, the producer price index came in red hot. It's not good. There's no

00:39:52.600 way to sugarcoat this, all right? Prices rose 1.1% just in the month of May, and that's on top of

00:39:59.300 another 1.1% increase in the month of April. So if you annualize this, in other words, if you take

00:40:06.760 those price increases and you say, what happens if we have that for an entire year? That's what

00:40:11.280 an annualized rate is. That's where you get into double digits. It's over 13%. It's almost 14%.

00:40:16.760 And if you take the three months that we now have data for since the Iran war starts,

00:40:22.400 so March, April, and May, what you see there is, again, an annualized rate that is in the double

00:40:28.500 digits. It is just red hot. We're seeing not just the annualized rate, but the year-over-year

00:40:35.280 increase. In other words, go from May of 25 to May of 26, what's happened with prices,

00:40:41.220 and they're up at the fastest rate since the Biden administration. So again, not good news here.

00:40:46.720 And essentially, Steve, what's happening, because a lot of people said, oh, it's just oil,

00:40:51.020 right? It's just oil prices. Everything else is doing just fine. In previous oil crises,

00:40:56.920 I think that's what you would have seen. But as time has gone on, and I think this has to do with

00:41:02.180 the speed at which information now travels and the speed at which price signals move throughout the

00:41:07.680 economy and throughout supply chains. As time has gone on, you can track this through different oil

00:41:12.600 crises going back to the 70s to today, the rate at which oil prices bleed over to the rest of the

00:41:19.560 economy has sped up pretty dramatically. And by the way, this is not just on the way up, this is

00:41:25.120 on the way down too. How many times in 2025, Steve, did you and I talk about the fact that

00:41:30.960 lower oil prices as a result of this president's policies were driving down inflation throughout

00:41:36.860 the broader economy? Well, now it's just having exactly the opposite effect. As oil has gone

00:41:42.120 higher, it is pushing up prices throughout the economy. And we're seeing this if you look at

00:41:47.820 all of the different metrics that try to take out outliers, essentially, from our inflation

00:41:54.020 metrics. So for CPI and PPI, you have core measures, which removes food and energy because

00:42:00.160 those are both very volatile. But you also have things like median CPI, which just looks at the

00:42:06.360 middle component there. You have trimmed mean CPI, which takes out the highest price increases,

00:42:13.920 but also the slowest or even the price decreases. And in all of those metrics, you're seeing the

00:42:20.040 same thing, which is an acceleration over the last several months. So we're just in this unfortunate

00:42:25.320 situation, Steve, where all of the great work that this administration is doing on tax policy,

00:42:31.220 on regulatory policy, the phenomenal work that they have done at Treasury, and I truly believe

00:42:38.100 Scott Besson is the greatest Treasury Secretary we have had since Mellon, and that's saying

00:42:43.640 something. I think that at this point, all of the knock-on effects of the Iran war are simply

00:42:52.660 overpowering. This is a headwind that is overpowering all of the tailwinds that this 0.86

00:42:57.960 administration has produced, a lot of which, again, have come from the great folks at Treasury.

00:43:03.840 All those tailwinds, I mean, have come from the Treasury Department.

00:43:09.220 EJ, social media, where do people go? You're putting up great stats and bringing it all down

00:43:13.040 for folks where they go now best place to find me is on x and the handle there is at real ej

00:43:18.960 and tony your analysis is fantastic i want everybody to make sure they go to um to twitter

00:43:25.200 and make sure they grab it because you're putting up charts and the details of it uh all the time

00:43:29.760 it's fantastic thank you for coming on look forward to getting you back here thank you steve

00:43:34.220 it's just reality we're gonna have to embrace that uh records uh and hopefully bowling will

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00:45:31.440 War Room.

00:45:32.400 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:45:36.260 Okay, breaking news.

00:45:37.820 The House voted down an extension of FISA Section 702,

00:45:41.540 effectively ensuring the nation's warrantless wiretapping authority

00:45:44.960 will expire Friday night because the House is leaving.

00:45:48.540 Of course, they've got to take a long weekend.

00:45:50.600 The vote was 198 to 218,

00:45:52.180 falling far short of the two-thirds majority needed for passage.

00:45:55.420 The short-term extension did not even garner a majority of the House.

00:46:00.040 More details on that later.

00:46:02.320 Jensen Wong, the agent of influence for the Chinese Communist Party, refused to come to a Senate hearing that he was invited to nicely.

00:46:10.460 He may get subpoenaed, but invited to nicely.

00:46:12.980 Also, Anthropoc has come out and agreed with the war room that you have to make these checking of the models can't be voluntary.

00:46:20.280 It has to be mandatory.

00:46:22.580 We'll get more to that, all types of information.

00:46:24.900 The next hour, I'm going to start with Zia Yusuf is in town.

00:46:28.820 He's one of Nigel's right-hand men.

00:46:30.520 He's the shadow home secretary.

00:46:33.660 So much is going on there now as we keep talking about London falling

00:46:36.620 and what's happening in Belfast.

00:46:38.160 Yusuf's here, going to give a major speech tonight at Heritage

00:46:41.020 at 5 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time.

00:46:43.440 We will cover that speech on the afternoon show.

00:46:46.180 He's going to be in the room next.

00:46:47.280 We're going to interview him.

00:46:48.460 I'm going to start with so much going on.

00:46:50.580 Rickard's at the bottom of the hour, hopefully bowling at the bottom of the hour.

00:46:53.080 We'll talk about the escalatory ladder.

00:46:54.900 in the Persian Gulf and in the Iran War.

00:46:58.460 Peter McIlvenna, you're the one that warned us.

00:47:01.080 You came to Dallas in November.

00:47:02.680 You changed the arc of history.

00:47:04.220 You warned us that, hey, guys, Texas is farther gone

00:47:07.820 than London was in the same time frame,

00:47:10.260 and that motivated people.

00:47:11.580 We now have Prop 10 passed.

00:47:13.100 Ken Paxson's won.

00:47:14.660 Folks in Amy Mack, Jenny Story, that team down at Texas is on fire.

00:47:19.620 But what is going on?

00:47:20.920 Just get us an update of what is going on at Belfast.

00:47:23.540 What happened?

00:47:24.200 how did this happen? How intense is it, sir? Well, Belfast is an interesting case because

00:47:30.340 it's very different from most other countries because of what we've been through in the

00:47:34.340 Troubles. And you've generally got a fairly monoculture in Northern Ireland. I found it

00:47:40.600 a shock when I came from Northern Ireland to London. That was a complete culture shock.

00:47:45.180 I thought I was coming to England. Little did I know. But what we've seen in Northern Ireland was

00:47:50.320 obviously the attempted beheading of an individual in North Belfast by a Sudanese man who had claimed 1.00

00:47:58.180 asylum in Northern Ireland and been given indefinite leave to remain, which is, yeah, you can stay here 0.89

00:48:03.600 as long as you like. No problem. No background checks or anything. So he had been allowed to stay

00:48:08.300 in Northern Ireland. He tried to cut someone's head off on the street in North Belfast. And of

00:48:16.060 course, people are rightly angry that that has happened, angry at the failure of immigration

00:48:21.560 checks and worried, actually, what's going to happen to them tomorrow? Are they going

00:48:27.020 to have someone running around with a machete that's kind of normal place in London, but

00:48:31.960 isn't normal in Belfast? And of course, people have been angry, and that's why you've seen

00:48:36.160 two nights of riots, of crowds coming out. I think fairly orchestrated, but it shows

00:48:45.120 the anger, but most individuals in Northern Ireland are not participating in that. They

00:48:49.840 are angry, but that's not what people want to go back to in Northern Ireland. You had,

00:48:54.800 I think, 250 responses by the emergency services on Tuesday night. Last night, they were around

00:49:01.520 65, 70. The normal, I think, is around 30 a night. So obviously, it went up 10 times

00:49:08.300 the first night. Last night, it was in certain areas. The first night, it was everywhere.

00:49:14.340 And I know I've talked to family and friends and they've said a number of the high streets today were ghost towns, afraid to open in case they get burned down.

00:49:23.780 So although none of us condone the violence, it is sheer frustration that no one will listen.

00:49:30.040 And what do you do when you don't have a political solution?

00:49:33.940 In the UK, we don't have elections for another three years.

00:49:37.360 And whether or not reform with Zia Yusuf and Nigel Friars, whether or not they are the answer in 2029, that's another conversation. 0.95

00:49:45.940 But we're stuck with this mass immigration open doors policy for three more years with nothing being done to stop it. 0.71

00:49:54.300 So it's no wonder people are angry at people flooding into the country. 0.52

00:49:59.140 How does this dovetail with the Novak, the Henry Novak, you know, situation that blew up all over Europe?

00:50:05.340 We've got a couple of minutes.

00:50:06.040 Are you seeing a convergence of factors and it's even being picked up on the streets of Europe now? 0.57

00:50:12.320 Well, it's about how the indigenous population looked at as opposed to a population coming in.

00:50:20.920 And Northern Ireland is so different.

00:50:23.700 Northern Ireland is predominantly white, Northern Irish or Republic of Ireland.

00:50:29.180 It's 96% white ethnic, 96%.

00:50:33.040 96%. When you go to London, London is 53%. So you see that even Belfast is 92%, 93% white ethnic, 0.96

00:50:42.420 so Northern Irish or Republic of Ireland, where London is 53%. So again, you look at the Christian 1.00

00:50:50.180 background. So over 90% of people, I mean, 95% of people call themselves Christian, where in the UK,

00:50:57.520 okay, that figure I think has just fallen under 50%,

00:51:00.080 is now about 48%.

00:51:01.520 So you see these competing visions of the country.

00:51:06.900 Are we based on Christian principles 1.00

00:51:08.540 or is it Islam coming in? 1.00

00:51:10.760 In London, Islam is 15%,

00:51:12.420 where if you look at Belfast, it's 1%. 0.52

00:51:14.920 So you've got 15 times the number of Muslims in London

00:51:19.240 compared to the amount in Belfast percentage-wise.

00:51:22.300 And that shows the change.

00:51:23.760 Northern Ireland is a microcosm of what it traditionally has been like growing up.

00:51:30.040 Despite the troubles, despite all of that, it's been a traditional culture, a very conservative culture.

00:51:36.640 And people don't, it's not normal to have someone running down your street trying to cut someone's head off.

00:51:42.660 Here in London, there was an attack outside of school maybe 10 days ago, someone running around with a machete.

00:51:48.880 And we are told by Sadiq Khan, this is part and parcel of living in a city.

00:51:53.040 It's not part and parcel.

00:51:54.760 People have to submit to our values, our ideals.

00:51:57.860 But the problem is when you bring people in, 1.00

00:52:00.140 mass immigration, you don't know what you're dealing with. 0.74

00:52:02.160 And the Somali, this is a Sudanese person, 0.57

00:52:04.860 much fewer Sudanese individuals in the UK.

00:52:08.220 There are a lot of Somalians. 1.00

00:52:09.920 And the issue with Somalians is, 1.00

00:52:11.380 I think it's around 12 times the conviction rate 0.98

00:52:14.940 for Somalians for crime than white Brits. 0.72

00:52:18.240 And in sex crimes, it's four, five, six times higher. 0.86

00:52:21.180 Peter, we got to bounce

00:52:23.400 but I want everybody to go, your show's

00:52:25.320 on, it's on the War Room, it's on our channel

00:52:27.560 here, where do people go, what's your

00:52:29.520 social media, you got to stay dialing to

00:52:31.440 McIlvaney because he's the guy to connect dots

00:52:33.520 between Northern Ireland, London, the continent

00:52:35.600 and Texas

00:52:37.000 and Minneapolis, where they go Peter

00:52:39.780 at Hearts of Oak

00:52:41.340 on most or at Hearts of Oak UK

00:52:42.980 on X or

00:52:45.060 simply watch War Room

00:52:47.020 and we are there, it's an honor to be

00:52:49.380 on war room on getter on rumble um so you can find us there giving a perspective maybe from

00:52:55.220 the uk and trying to bridge that gap between the uk and the us and you're doing a hell of a job

00:53:01.100 it was not for you sir not so sure ken paxton would have won that's how important your trip

00:53:07.120 was and the message you had great folks in texas who embraced that message the grassroots said

00:53:12.340 this guy mckelvaney i think he knows what he's talking about we got a problem here houston we

00:53:17.240 have a problem short commercial break i'll be back with the firebrand right-hand man

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Bannon's War Room - June 11, 2026

Episode 5436： Forcing The Senate To Uphold The Constitution; Night Three Of Unrest In Belfast

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