Bannon's War Room - Episode 5437： Populist Uprising IN The UK; More Bombing In Iran; Lockdown At The Pentagon

00:00:00.000 People are rightly sickened by the horrific attack on Monday night in North Belfast.

00:00:05.620 As you have just said, the man arrested has been in court in Belfast this morning and charged.

00:00:12.160 I want to thank the Police Service of Northern Ireland and other first responders

00:00:16.220 and members of the public who responded with such bravery.

00:00:20.940 And our thoughts are with the victim.

00:00:23.920 But let me be clear, Mr Speaker,

00:00:25.980 the acts of violence and arson that followed are totally unjustified.

00:00:33.500 This morning I spoke with the First Minister, the Deputy First Minister and the Chief Constable

00:00:39.200 and the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland is meeting leaders in Belfast today.

00:00:44.760 We are united in calling for calm and determined to restore order,

00:00:51.260 support the police and all those on the front line

00:00:53.960 and ensure that justice is done.

00:00:56.360 Overnight, huge anti-immigration protests sweeping the United Kingdom

00:01:00.000 after a 30-year-old man, believed to be from Sudan,

00:01:03.260 was charged with attempted murder following a knife attack in Northern Ireland.

00:01:07.120 Crowds gathered across Belfast, sending houses, a bus, several cars on fire.

00:01:11.360 Elon Musk, who is backing the anti-immigration sentiments,

00:01:14.180 posted only by protesting repeatedly and loudly will there be any change.

00:01:19.140 This is a peace message. The crowd should disperse immediately, as force is about to be used against violent individuals. If you do not stop, impact rounds will be fired.

00:01:34.120 This is a peace message. We are causing and awful destruction of the roads from Burnham. I require you to move to the European government causing destruction. Please.

00:01:46.400 Well, those protests have not only been taking place in Northern Ireland, John, but are spread across other cities in the United Kingdom.

00:02:02.600 But as you mentioned, there had been calls on social media, including from notable figures, for protesters to take to the streets following Monday night's horrific attack,

00:02:11.560 in which we saw a man in his 40s being attacked repeatedly by, as you mentioned,

00:02:17.380 an individual believed to be a 30-year-old Sudanese man

00:02:21.040 who has now been charged with attempted murder.

00:02:23.300 And, of course, the video of that horrifying attack did spread across social media quite rapidly.

00:02:29.300 It was very graphic, very distressing, and was filmed by an eyewitness

00:02:33.940 as bystanders attempted to intervene.

00:02:36.760 But this has really turned into now protests against this attack,

00:02:39.980 linking it to anti-immigration sentiments.

00:02:43.160 Now, we have heard from Northern Ireland's First Minister,

00:02:46.120 who has, of course, condemned Monday night's attack,

00:02:48.440 but has also said in a statement that these protests are a dangerous attempt,

00:02:53.940 in her words, to exploit and target and attack innocent families,

00:02:58.040 people who are simply trying to live, work and raise their families here.

00:03:02.020 Racism, intimidation and violence are wrong wherever they occur.

00:03:05.680 And those sentiments have been echoed by the UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer as well.

00:03:11.320 But this has really raised concern as police continue to call for calm over the potential for this to further fuel anti-immigration and even xenophobic sentiments across the United Kingdom.

00:03:23.580 I know well the huge contribution migrants have made and can make to this country.

00:03:28.560 But when my parents came to this country, the levels of legal immigration were what illegal migration levels are today.

00:03:37.800 For years, the Tory Labour Uni Party has looked the other way while the very fabric of our society has been under attack. 0.90

00:03:46.160 We've been told to accept open borders that a country that spends £60 billion a year on defence should stand out as men arrive in small boats day after day.

00:03:57.900 Our borders have been left open and undefended. 0.82

00:04:01.560 Knife crime stalks, entire neighbourhood will discard the foreign laws 0.90

00:04:06.640 and protect the wicked at the expense of the innocent.

00:04:09.640 We will bring back order to streets that have surrendered to chaos.

00:04:14.120 We'll secure our borders and protect and defend our country.

00:04:19.140 Together, united on the night of fraud and leadership,

00:04:22.220 we will make Britain safe, proud, prosperous and powerful. 1.00

00:04:35.280 That anybody who comes here illegally 1.00

00:04:37.780 not only will never be given the right to remain

00:04:40.840 but will be deported back to the country from which they came.

00:04:49.140 If your first act upon coming to this country

00:04:51.800 is to break British laws,

00:04:53.780 instead of being given free accommodation and phones,

00:04:56.620 you will be removed promptly and efficiently. 0.82

00:05:01.680 No foreign court will stop us

00:05:03.760 because Britain will finally have a prime minister

00:05:06.540 who will ensure that the interests of the British people come first.

00:05:15.320 We will do the things necessary to heal this country

00:05:18.460 because we're the only ones who can.

00:05:20.520 The Tories, Labor, the left-wing media look at reform's progress and think it must be fake.

00:05:28.940 All their prior experience means that the level of cognitive dissonance fries their brains.

00:05:36.500 Okay, welcome back.

00:05:38.260 We now have, we're honored to have Nigel Farage's fire-breathing shadow home secretary who joins us now, Zia Youssef.

00:05:48.120 Zia, first off, we're going to be covering live this afternoon at five o'clock.

00:05:52.420 You're going to be giving a speech at the Heritage Organization, the Heritage Institute.

00:05:58.020 Why? First off, what is a shadow home secretary?

00:06:02.380 You're not Nigel's right hand man.

00:06:04.400 And why is there enough interest to have you come over and speak at Heritage today?

00:06:10.560 Well, firstly, thanks for having me, Steve.

00:06:13.200 It's a pleasure to be here.

00:06:14.100 Look, what my role is, is to essentially hold to account the current Home Secretary and the Home Secretary's brief in the United Kingdom is that of border control, deportations to the degree a government actually wishes to do such a thing and law and order.

00:06:29.640 Those are the primary concerns of a Home Secretary.

00:06:32.540 So my job, obviously, along with Nigel and the rest of the party leadership, has been to articulate what is clear that Britain is being invaded in real time.

00:06:44.100 we are in the middle of a massive national emergency. We've been calling it that for years.

00:06:49.080 Nigel's dedicated decades of his life pointing to these problems. But they are now, frankly,

00:06:54.180 reaching a level which is totally unprecedented. And, you know, it is really only through a reformed

00:07:01.340 government with Nigel's prime minister that we're going to solve these problems. And in terms of

00:07:04.680 why I'm speaking at Heritage, look, you know, Britain is not the power it once was. And,

00:07:09.960 the £60 billion of defence spending that Britain spends each year is a lot of money to Britain. It

00:07:15.900 is obviously dwarfed by the American defence budget. But ultimately, Britain is still, I think,

00:07:21.260 a country that does wield significant power in the world through many different ways. It is still a

00:07:26.380 country, as someone who built a company, sold, I was an entrepreneur, a tech entrepreneur, sold my

00:07:29.940 company to an American bank. I've spent a lot of time in America. I know how important Britain is

00:07:34.880 And the fate of the United Kingdom is to Americans, including yourself and to people who watch this program.

00:07:42.480 And that's a big focus. Obviously, the fact, you know, Britain's declined.

00:07:46.320 The fact that we had a foreign national attempt to behead somebody on the streets of Belfast in the last couple of days.

00:07:53.580 Obviously, we had the tragic murder of Henry Novak and the catastrophic example, once again, of anti-white prejudice, which is literally embedded.

00:08:00.780 If we get time, we can talk about this. It's literally embedded in the police code of conduct now in Britain that they must not be colorblind, that they must not treat everybody the same.

00:08:10.000 And that's a big reason why that happened. So, look, if Britain continues on the trajectory that it is on, it will be totally unrecognizable in relatively short order.

00:08:20.220 And that I think there's some analogy clearly to where you are in America, too.

00:08:25.620 And that's what I'll be talking about at Heritage tomorrow.

00:08:28.140 it. See, I want to make sure because you guys are an upstart party, although now you're leading in

00:08:33.380 the polls. And I want to read what Starmer, the prime minister, Sir Keir Starmer, said the other

00:08:37.880 day. We did it at the opening of the show yesterday. People were shocked. The scenes in Belfast last

00:08:41.680 night were shocking and unacceptable. There's no justification for the violence and disorder that

00:08:46.620 we saw threatening our communities, nor those who encourage it online and elsewhere. It goes on and

00:08:51.940 on. He's attacking the protesters and the people in Belfast. Never once did he talk about the

00:08:57.340 violence. That's labor. But are the Tories much different in this? I mean, it seems like you use

00:09:04.240 a loaded term. One, we use here on Worm all the time to talk about the invasion of the United

00:09:08.900 States and Biden. But using a term like invasion, that can get you banned at the BBC right now,

00:09:15.580 can't it? Yeah, look, I use that word because it's the correct word to use. I use it advisedly, 0.66

00:09:22.100 The dictionary definition of invasion is an incursion by a group of people in an unwanted way.

00:09:27.760 And to give you some numbers around this in the UK, more people, most of them military age men, have turned up on the shores of Britain uninvited and illegally over the last eight years alone and stormed the beaches of Normandy on D-Day.

00:09:41.080 And the countries, if you look at the nationalities of these people who are turning up, again, north of 75 percent of them are men, most of them pretty young.

00:09:49.020 You know, they're countries like Afghanistan, like Eritrea, like Syria, like Iran, like Iraq.

00:09:54.320 It's pretty clear that IRGC fighters have been entering Britain illegally.

00:09:58.880 And what's really insane about this is that instead of being met with, you know, what we think should be deportation command,

00:10:05.600 you know, an agency focused on detaining such people and putting them on plane back to the country from which they came.

00:10:10.720 Instead of that, they're actually rewarded. They get a free they get picked up.

00:10:13.840 They get a ferry back to our shores across the channel.

00:10:16.880 They get a taxi to a free hotel, in some cases, four star hotels, literally.

00:10:22.280 And they get free meals, free health care.

00:10:25.160 And to give you an example of how broken Britain's immigration policy is.

00:10:29.580 Hang on. Hang on. Hang on one second, Yusuf. I got to explain this.

00:10:33.580 We follow, obviously, the UK quite closely in politics. 0.96

00:10:38.500 We saw when Liz Truss got turfed out by the bond market.

00:10:42.620 How does a country, you got to explain this to people, how does a country in financial difficulty and how does a country, particularly outside of London, that's the economics is much like a third world country.

00:10:53.460 I mean, it's lower than Mississippian, I think, in real wages and GDP growth.

00:10:58.520 How does a country, how the political elites even conceive of what they do for migrants here, given the type of benefits they give when so much of the United Kingdom, regardless of your race, are struggling, sir?

00:11:12.620 Well, the way they've gotten away with it is by lying repeatedly to the British public.

00:11:17.080 And that is why, you know, so your viewers understand, what the so-called Conservative

00:11:22.780 Party did, the Tory Party did, just to give you some numbers around this, they had 14

00:11:27.000 years in power in their most recent stint, then they were turfed out.

00:11:30.680 They shipped in 12 million people gross, right?

00:11:34.340 So you're talking about a fifth, equivalent of the fifth of the population shipped in. 0.99

00:11:38.880 The majority of those people are people who are not going to contribute economically. 0.89

00:11:43.860 Four and a half million of those people came in in the space of four years.

00:11:47.500 So again, you're talking about six, seven percent of the population in the blink of an eye.

00:11:51.820 Most of them from non-EU countries, just 17 percent, one seven percent of those people came in on work visas, Steve.

00:11:59.440 Right. So this idea that you need these people to to boost the economy is completely for the birds.

00:12:04.380 And that was, again, the so-called conservative government.

00:12:08.420 that did this. And so as a result of that, you know, British people have voted time and again

00:12:12.740 for parties. It was the Tory party. They promised in four consecutive manifestos,

00:12:18.440 they promised to cut immigration down to the tens of thousands. And they left with that number at

00:12:22.820 a million a year. So to ask, to answer your question, how has that happened? It is simply

00:12:27.300 because number one, the so-called Conservative Party lied repeatedly to the electorate.

00:12:32.040 The British people are incredibly welcoming, incredibly well-natured. But, you know, ultimately, even their extraordinary patience is now, I think, snapping. I mean, to give you another data point, post the Henry Novak murder, the percentage of the British population who believe that the British police are structurally, are two-tier and structurally racist against white people has doubled in the last two years alone.

00:12:57.440 So they have gotten away with it. One of the other reasons they've gotten away with it is because there hasn't been a real alternative. And that's what reform have done. We've led in north of 350 national opinion polls in a row. And if there was a general election tomorrow, the likelihood is that Nigel Farage would be the prime minister. And that's directly downstream from the betrayals that we're talking about.

00:13:15.440 out. Hang on one second. We're going to go to break. We've got about a minute left. Why would

00:13:20.480 the Tories, supposed to be the Conservative Party, why would they lie to their voters and allow 12

00:13:25.500 million? I think you've got 80 million citizens. I mean, it's a massive, it's so much bigger than

00:13:30.960 what's happened here in America. We've got a minute. Why would they lie to their people?

00:13:37.020 I mean, you'd have to ask them. I mean, most of that party, the majority of that party in terms

00:13:42.440 the actual MPs who vote legislation through, don't actually believe in secure borders,

00:13:47.800 don't believe that somebody who enters a country illegally should be treated

00:13:50.820 as an invader and not as somebody to be put up a taxpayer expense. It's difficult to come up with

00:13:57.520 a better explanation for that. And they got away with it because simply people didn't see that

00:14:03.140 there was any alternative. But obviously, with Nigel leading reform, that's changed.

00:14:07.820 Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break.

00:14:09.900 Zia Youssef, who's the shadow home secretary for the Reform Party,

00:14:14.840 is going to give a major policy address this afternoon at 5 p.m. at the Heritage Institute.

00:14:20.440 Real America's Voice will cover it on our 5 o'clock show.

00:14:22.980 We're very honored to have him here as a guest.

00:14:24.880 He's been making the rounds in Washington, D.C., and he's absolutely correct.

00:14:28.460 This is why it's inextricably linked what's happening in the United Kingdom

00:14:32.600 with what's happening here in the United States of America.

00:14:35.820 We're going to take a short commercial break.

00:14:38.060 Natasha Owens is going to take us out with her song about Minnesota.

00:14:43.020 Zia Youssef will join us back on the other side.

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00:16:43.780 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.

00:16:49.460 Zia Yusuf, the Shadow Home Secretary, the fire-breathing, I might say, Shadow Home Secretary

00:16:54.200 for Nigel Farage and the Foreign Party joins us. We'll be giving a speech tonight at 5 p.m.

00:16:58.040 Eastern Daylight Time at the renowned Heritage Institute. And we will be covering that. He's

00:17:05.200 here in the United States for a few days to take meetings, as we say, and give speeches and do

00:17:10.440 media. Zia, walk our audience through your journey, you and your family's journey, because

00:17:15.040 it is for an immigrant family and UK citizens to sit there and go, there's an invasion. And guess 0.97

00:17:22.180 what? I'm Nigel Farage's partner, and we're going to stop this and reverse it. It's pretty dramatic.

00:17:27.680 And I think it's one of the reasons that people, particularly the deep state and the global left wing media, have targeted you as one of the enemy's number one.

00:17:38.120 So walk us through your journey, sir.

00:17:40.680 Yeah, it's a lot of cognitive dissonance for many in the media.

00:17:44.480 So, look, my parents came to the UK.

00:17:46.780 They're originally from Sri Lanka.

00:17:48.400 My father had recently qualified as a medical doctor.

00:17:51.000 So they came in as high skilled workers and they came to the UK in the early 1980s.

00:17:55.680 1980s. And that was at a time when net immigration into the UK was about 40,000 or so, as opposed to

00:18:01.880 the million a year that it was just a couple of years ago. And they didn't have a lot of money

00:18:06.980 to their name, but they gave me love and they worked really, really hard to give me a great

00:18:10.900 education. So I studied at the London School of Economics. And then I went to work in finance,

00:18:17.280 working for a couple of American banks. I worked for Merrill Lynch and then at Goldman Sachs,

00:18:20.480 which is a great way to start a career. And then I started a tech company in 2014. And I sold that

00:18:27.040 to Capital One a couple of years ago. And, you know, so if I'm not a career politician, I'm from

00:18:32.560 the private sector, but I feel like I owe so much to this great country that welcomed my parents

00:18:38.320 with open arms. You know, my mom, they qualified as a nurse. Between them, my father and my mother

00:18:43.860 have given decades and decades of service to our national health service. And so having sold my

00:18:49.280 company. I was in the blessed position, really, that I didn't have to work for money anymore.

00:18:55.700 And I looked at it and thought, well, I could start another company, but I love my country,

00:18:59.480 and I still think there's a chance to turn this around. And when Nigel Farage said that he was

00:19:03.300 going to come back into politics, come out of retirement and lead Reform UK into the 2024

00:19:08.460 general election, and bear in mind, Reform didn't have any MPs back then. It was really total

00:19:13.780 startup. But he is such a force of nature, and I believe in him so much that I thought I'm going

00:19:19.000 to dedicate my life to making him prime minister, building this startup, you know, insurgent party,

00:19:25.620 which I think is what was necessary to solve this problem. And since then, we've gone from

00:19:29.740 strength to strength. And we've now led, as I said, 350 opinion polls in a row. I do this as

00:19:35.280 a volunteer, again, out of love for my country. And, you know, you speak to the fact that,

00:19:39.500 you know, as someone who obviously my parents are immigrants in this country, willing to say

00:19:43.340 things. Look, all I try to do in politics is say things that I believe to be true. And I think that

00:19:49.440 if we fail to do that, those of us who can do it, then I think we bear some responsibility for

00:19:55.700 the plight of the country. And thankfully, thankfully, you know, we've had so much success

00:20:01.080 in the polls. We've dominated the two sets of local elections that have happened over the last

00:20:05.460 couple of years, one by a massive margin. Nigel has done a phenomenal job. And look, in the end,

00:20:12.420 as you said, it's not about race or any of that, the sort of things that the left-wing media try

00:20:16.400 to portray this as. This is about upholding what a country actually, what it means to be a country,

00:20:22.720 what it means to be sovereign. And I want to say one other thing for your viewers, because

00:20:26.780 I'm not sure if they're all fully aware of how difficult Britain's situation is. You said,

00:20:31.580 we don't have a written constitution like you. So the rights that Americans have, I know there's a

00:20:36.380 lot of difficulty around it sometimes, but things like freedom of speech, things like

00:20:41.720 not having foreign courts impose things on domestic American citizens. We don't have those

00:20:50.100 sorts of protections in Britain. So we've seen enormous numbers of people arrested for things

00:20:56.080 that they've posted on social media, sent to jail in short order for posting things on social media.

00:21:02.140 We've seen so much of why Britain simply hasn't been able to deport even convicted rapists, 0.95

00:21:09.300 foreign nationals, even foreign nationals who were convicted murderers, is because of the European

00:21:14.360 Convention on Human Rights and because of these foreign courts. And that, again, is a big part of

00:21:20.740 what reform's mission is. We're going to take back control of that. We're going to make sure

00:21:25.180 that Britain's courts and Britain's parliament, most importantly, are sovereign. After the

00:21:32.760 military, I went to Harvard and then Goldman Sachs, and that was the recruiting department

00:21:37.720 for the globalists. You went to London school in Goldman. That may be even a bigger,

00:21:41.940 in London, bigger recruiting for global. How did you go from someone trained,

00:21:46.440 understanding your parents, hardworking, you know, love Britain? How do you go from being

00:21:50.940 recruited and working in the globalist system as a globalist to being a fire-breathing populist

00:21:56.600 nationalist now as a politician? Well, maybe not dissimilarly to you. I mean, look, I've always

00:22:02.200 been independent-minded. I was a Goldman for about two and a half years. And listen, I found

00:22:09.600 my time there productive. I worked with great people in the London office, and they taught me

00:22:14.380 a lot. But in the end, I've been very independent-minded, and I try to see cool things as

00:22:20.780 I see them. And I think the sheer speed of Britain's decline as a result of the decline

00:22:28.340 of law and order, as a result of spineless politicians, as a result of the media landscape,

00:22:33.160 and, of course, as a result of basically not having a border, made it an emergency that I felt

00:22:38.960 like I wanted to dedicate my life to this. And, you know, in the era now of social media,

00:22:43.920 you know, you're an example of this. You can actually bypass the legacy media and you can

00:22:47.960 get your message out. I mean, reform is the dominant party in the UK on social media. We

00:22:53.580 reach a massive percentage of the British population directly through Nigel's accounts,

00:22:57.800 my accounts, party accounts. And so, yeah, look, I've always been very independent minded.

00:23:03.520 And I think that in some cases, I would also say having seen that world, you know, you kind of

00:23:09.600 understand what it is, Steve, and how dangerous it can be. In the 250th anniversary of our

00:23:16.200 independence from the British crown or from Britain, one of the big fights was the Tory

00:23:21.280 party and how the Tory party was standing up for certain elements of control of the United States.

00:23:26.920 how is it that a handful of you guys led by nigel after doing brexit this amazing you know

00:23:32.720 uh moment in efflection point in british history how did you guys form this party what is the

00:23:39.260 connection that now has you essentially putting the tory party out of business that's been around

00:23:44.460 for over 250 years i mean it's it's really mind-boggling what is the message that is

00:23:50.040 connected so strongly with british middle class and working class folks i think the message is

00:23:55.640 simple. The political class is corrupt and is not only not working in the interests of the British

00:23:59.720 people, but is actively working against their interests. And I don't think this would have

00:24:04.420 been possible 20 years ago, before the rise, as I said, of social media, where we're able to reach

00:24:10.320 people and talk to people directly and disintermediate a lot of the legacy media.

00:24:17.800 So our message is very simple. We point to the problems that exist. We're crystal clear about

00:24:21.540 what our solutions are. And we're uncompromising about describing things as they are. And that has

00:24:28.320 traveled exceptionally quickly. And it has actually, if you look at our support, we've taken a lot of

00:24:33.180 support from the old Conservative Party. We've actually taken some support from the kind of

00:24:39.200 blue collar Labour Party as well. But we've also gotten a lot of support from people who've just

00:24:44.700 been disengaged for politics their entire lives, who just believed that it didn't matter whether

00:24:48.540 you voted for the red team or the blue team, you kind of got the same thing. And so that with the

00:24:53.640 power of social media, obviously, Nigel's brand, we've got to talk about that. I mean, Nigel has

00:24:57.320 been, while it's a totally new party, it's only been around a couple of years, a few years,

00:25:01.520 Nigel has been around for decades. And because people know what Nigel stands for, he's been

00:25:05.560 talking about these issues for such a long time. You know, he's the ultimate political entrepreneur

00:25:10.780 and founder in Britain. That was really crucial to our success too.

00:25:16.260 Now, Elon Musk, and people know the battles I've had with Musk here, and won, particularly

00:25:21.500 in H-1B visas and the Secretary of Treasury, Besant.

00:25:26.100 Why is he so down on reform and the job you guys are doing and the connection you have

00:25:30.880 with the British people?

00:25:33.940 I guess you'd have to ask him.

00:25:35.520 I mean, I think there's a few things.

00:25:36.800 I mean, Elon's record as an entrepreneur, I guess, would speak for itself.

00:25:40.760 But, you know, I do remember seeing him tweeting about wanting to start, you know, another party to compete with the Republican Party.

00:25:47.920 And, you know, the British system is such that, you know, it's not a presidential system.

00:25:52.960 You know, ultimately, in order to become prime minister or for your party to deliver a prime minister, you need to win the majority of 650 constituencies in the UK, which is extraordinarily difficult to do at the best of times.

00:26:05.500 I think that there is, you know, ultimately, if you're in Britain and you want a high octane propellant to get rid of the political establishment, they don't come any higher octane than Nigel Farage.

00:26:21.820 That's what I would say. And I think that if you don't quite understand the British system, then you might believe that, you know, another entity coming in might be able to do something different.

00:26:32.760 Beyond that, I guess you'd have to ask him.

00:26:36.220 At last, we've got about 90 seconds left.

00:26:38.720 What you're going to give the speech this afternoon.

00:26:40.880 What lessons do the rise of reform, you and Nigel and the team, and your issues, what lessons do you have to teach us here in the MAGA movement?

00:26:50.680 Well, I'd say, number one, be grateful for some of the things that you have, as I said, a written constitution.

00:26:55.500 Not that there aren't, obviously, issues to go to Supreme Court, but, you know, that is something, and it should be solace that you can rely on that in the way that Britain can't.

00:27:04.920 But I would also say that, you know, in the end, it's got to be about delivery for the people who vote for you.

00:27:12.320 And I think that if you fail to do that in the era that we're in now, you know, you can't expect people to to continue to be loyal.

00:27:22.120 And so, you know, obviously, if you look at what Trump's been doing, you know, he's obviously been making huge inroads on his deportation plan and many, many other things.

00:27:30.100 But I think we're living in such a volatile world now that in the end, if you're a political leader in your political party, you better make darn sure that, you know, you're delivering for the people who vote for you.

00:27:42.100 Zia, social media. We got about 30 seconds. Where do people keep up with you, sir?

00:27:46.740 On Twitter, it's at Zia Youssef UK. On Instagram, it's Zia.Yussef.

00:27:53.060 Zia, thank you for dropping by and joining us. We look forward to the speech this afternoon. Thanks for coming over. And don't be a stranger.

00:27:59.620 Thank you.

00:28:00.000 Thank you.

00:28:01.620 Zia Youssef is the shadow home secretary for the Reform Party, and they have made history in the United Kingdom.

00:28:09.720 They now lead in all polls.

00:28:11.740 And if you had a vote, if you called a vote today, our good friend and colleague, Nigel Farage, would be the prime minister.

00:28:19.240 Just remarkable.

00:28:20.280 Nigel, with Brexit, was monumental.

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00:30:26.740 K. Bannon. There's been a hazardous material incident at the Pentagon. As we speak, the

00:30:36.740 Pentagon is on lockdown. We'll put the New York Times, the New York Post story up. And Sean

00:30:43.080 pernell's given uh given a statement um some sort of incident i will get more details on that

00:30:49.640 hopefully before we go off the arrow charlie kirscher will definitely have it uh also the

00:30:54.280 defense minister of the united kingdom has stepped down for i think uh basically saying

00:31:00.120 we haven't invested in defense for years and we can't make these commitments in ukraine persian

00:31:05.960 gulf all of it i think we're gonna get to that um this afternoon that's happened uh the house

00:31:11.640 voted down overwhelmingly fisa hello the holy relic of fisa right wasn't even close and they've

00:31:18.200 been trying to hold president trump hostage on that with um with pulte and it's much obviously

00:31:23.800 much deeper than pulte uh so much going on i want to play a clip from um i want to play a clip from

00:31:31.240 on speaker johnson right now and i'm bringing in the man who called it all um jim records will

00:31:37.960 will join us here momentarily. Let's play the clip from Johnson. I want to take a break for

00:31:42.240 a second. The Speaker of the House is now speaking about the future of the Foreign

00:31:46.280 Intelligence Surveillance Act, FISA, as it's called. This is significant. I want to listen

00:31:50.700 to what he's saying. Well, I don't know if the American people just saw what happened on the

00:31:55.860 floor, but it is shameful and it is very, very dangerous. Let me just tell you what's happened

00:32:00.640 here. Today, we just offered a simple, clean, three-week extension of the FISA national security

00:32:07.200 law. The Democrats, 199 of them, voted against a clean three-week extension for political

00:32:14.640 purposes. And when the bill went down, they applauded. They applauded it. That record

00:32:21.280 and that video is going to live in infamy. I pray that we do not have a serious calamity

00:32:26.760 on our shores over the next few weeks. We have done everything we possibly can. House

00:32:31.260 Republicans are trying to govern. We're trying to keep the American people safe. On April

00:32:35.580 29th, we passed a three-year

00:32:37.840 extension of the FISA

00:32:39.500 national security law. It has been sitting

00:32:41.540 over in the Senate, and because the Democrats

00:32:43.360 in the Senate are playing political games as well,

00:32:45.380 they're unable to pass it. So we did

00:32:47.360 everything within our power

00:32:49.100 to try to ensure that this statute

00:32:51.400 does not expire, and the Democrats

00:32:53.540 are using it as a political

00:32:55.420 hostage. Now, this is their custom

00:32:57.780 in the 119th Congress. This is

00:32:59.540 what Democrats do right now. I'm so sick of you. 0.99

00:33:01.560 He's running around telling everybody. He's running around

00:33:03.420 telling everybody you're going to... They're trying to tee

00:33:05.420 this up you have many more tools you can do so don't try to hold don't try to hold us hostage

00:33:10.300 with the world cup and who gives a damn about the world cup i don't even know why the thing's over

00:33:14.020 here it's i not my deal okay um we got to focus on celebrating the 250th uh commemoration and

00:33:21.880 anniversary of the birth of our nation we don't need a bunch of soccer who nobody cares about

00:33:26.620 um johnson you just like thune dude where's your backing of mass deportations where are you

00:33:35.300 every day saying we got to get these uh 20 million illegal alien invaders out nowhere you're count you

00:33:40.940 kowtow to the to the to the um to the donors the donor class so don't sit there and tell me how 0.92

00:33:46.620 worried you are about national security you're not worried if you're not prepared to back mass

00:33:51.380 deportations and start taking the buses and get them the hell out of here then you don't give a 0.57

00:33:55.700 damn about the security of the united states of america full stop so sitting up there and he's

00:34:02.400 all puffed up and he's running around he's a national security expert poly pockets at his best 0.99

00:34:06.780 records you've called it dude on here the other day says hey i'm gonna give you three alternatives

00:34:12.620 and guess what we're gonna go up the escalatory ladder so we're up the escalatory ladder how do

00:34:17.960 you think it plays out putting yourself in president trump's mindset and strategy and

00:34:22.880 um i think you're pretty good on calling cargill and also because it looks like

00:34:27.600 That's right on the tip of this, is it not?

00:34:31.620 Jim Rickards, welcome aboard, sir.

00:34:34.840 Thanks, Steve.

00:34:36.620 Right, a number of interviews, but going back to March, right after the war started, I said Trump only has three ways out, and they're all bad.

00:34:47.080 It sounded like it was a good choice, bad choice, and you debated it.

00:34:49.400 They're all bad, but they're somewhat worse than others.

00:34:51.940 Number one, surrender, basically go home.

00:34:55.800 Now, Trump won't put it that way.

00:34:57.920 What Trump wants is this memorandum from Iran.

00:35:00.740 You know, a little, I'll say it's better than JCPOA that Obama got.

00:35:04.480 He'll wave it and say, this is the greatest treaty, you know, greatest memorandum in history

00:35:08.980 or whatever.

00:35:09.600 It gives him cover to basically, if not surrender, at least retreat, gives him cover. 1.00

00:35:14.460 Now, whenever I want to do intelligence analysis, I say, well, if I can figure it out, the Iranians 1.00

00:35:19.060 have figured it out, and they know this, they know what I just said, so they're not going 1.00

00:35:22.900 to give it to him.

00:35:24.000 Why should they?

00:35:25.160 They're winning.

00:35:25.980 When you win, you don't do the other guy any favor.

00:35:27.940 So getting out with a piece of paper is not a bad result, but it's not going to happen 1.00

00:35:33.660 because the Iranians won't let it. 1.00

00:35:35.600 Option two was stalemate. 1.00

00:35:37.060 That's where we are now.

00:35:38.340 Don't call it a ceasefire.

00:35:39.740 It's not a ceasefire.

00:35:41.380 You know, Iran blew up the Kuwait airport, U.S. bomb missile or radar sites in Iran.

00:35:50.440 Iran hits Israel.

00:35:51.560 Israel hits back, et cetera.

00:35:53.140 That's not a ceasefire.

00:35:54.080 Or maybe low-intensity conflict, if you like, but not a ceasefire, but a little bit of a stalemate.

00:35:58.900 The problem with that, you say, well, hey, a stalemate, it doesn't sound too bad.

00:36:02.180 We're not admitting we lost.

00:36:03.500 Why don't we just continue that indefinitely?

00:36:04.980 The answer is you cannot.

00:36:07.180 Herb Stein, the famous economist, said if something can't go on forever, it won't.

00:36:12.560 And that's where we are, which is Strait of Hormuz has been closed since February 28th.

00:36:16.640 I don't care.

00:36:17.280 A couple of vessels here and there, yeah, I got it.

00:36:19.180 It should be 120 a day.

00:36:20.460 So telling me you got 20 through it in a month is meaningless.

00:36:24.840 But the problem is the world is running out of oil.

00:36:27.700 Why doesn't this happen sooner?

00:36:28.960 Well, it takes time.

00:36:30.120 There's stuff in the pipeline.

00:36:31.180 There's stuff in reserves.

00:36:32.540 US is pumping a little more.

00:36:33.760 Russia is pumping a little more.

00:36:34.680 Yeah, there's some make goods, but not enough.

00:36:36.720 And so we're getting closer to that point.

00:36:39.560 And the White House knows it.

00:36:41.260 So they might be comfortable in a stalemate, but you can't stay there because you're going

00:36:46.080 to shut down the industrial economy.

00:36:48.340 So that leaves choice three, which is escalation.

00:36:51.180 And the reason I said there was going to be escalation, Steve, is because the other two

00:36:54.180 don't work for the reasons I just described.

00:36:57.460 And so escalate, yeah, that's what Trump said.

00:37:01.180 He's been tiptoeing up to it.

00:37:03.280 A lot of talk, no action, but here comes the action tonight or beginning any minute, actually.

00:37:09.220 But the point about escalation, it won't work because it's bombing.

00:37:13.720 There's no history of any country winning a war by bombing.

00:37:19.340 World War II was not won by the Dresden firebomb.

00:37:21.940 It was won by D-Day, Battle of the Bulge, and Russians on the Eastern Front who burned

00:37:26.280 Warsaw down on the way to Berlin. 0.84

00:37:27.980 Sorry, the Eastern Front, rather, who burned down Warsaw on the way to Berlin.

00:37:32.240 Vietnam War, we bombed Hanoi for 10 years.

00:37:34.940 We didn't win. 0.95

00:37:35.920 I could give many other examples, but the point is, same thing with Japan, firebombing 0.56

00:37:39.920 Japan, napalm on wooden structures killed more people in Tokyo, near Tokyo, than Hiroshima and

00:37:45.300 Nagasaki. That's not what ended the war. You can say the atomic bomb did. Okay. But is that where

00:37:50.380 you want to go? Nuclear weapons? I don't think so. So escalation doesn't work unless you put boots

00:37:55.780 on the ground. And my rough estimate, order of battle, would be something like 60 divisions.

00:38:01.700 That's 600,000 troops organized probably into 10 armies and three army groups.

00:38:09.920 plus air support, satellite, everything.

00:38:11.780 We're not going to do that.

00:38:13.240 The reason I go through those numbers is that's what you're talking about.

00:38:16.540 You know, don't go, hey, boots on the ground, let's go.

00:38:18.460 No, that's what you're talking about.

00:38:20.240 Now, jump set.

00:38:21.520 Hang on. 0.80

00:38:22.700 Hang on.

00:38:23.320 Give me the logic, the strategic logic on what he did yesterday

00:38:28.160 in the eschatory ladder.

00:38:29.800 He obviously picked a target set with the military.

00:38:33.580 He hit that target set and put out warnings about others,

00:38:37.060 including Cargillin.

00:38:38.540 he said this morning i think on fox we'll make a lot of money if we take it so he's kind of

00:38:43.720 shifting in a different mode i keep telling people if he thinks people are playing games with him

00:38:47.880 he'll go in a different mode so whether you support this war how we got in the war is how

00:38:53.540 we got in the war and that's got to be investigated deeply because i am a firm belief that there was

00:38:59.120 not great intelligence given to the commander in chief at the time and particularly in the second

00:39:04.580 go around but now that we're in it we're in it so in your when you're in it how do you get to

00:39:10.920 victory and then get the hell out of there uh records you don't um the the so what's the

00:39:18.220 strategic logic if you will behind escalation there isn't any there's tactical logic you can

00:39:23.240 go blow up bridges uh you know there's a lot of things to blow up i don't doubt it make people

00:39:27.560 you know take a ferry or drive the long way around but it won't work it never has there's no example

00:39:32.800 of that you can bomb every bit of infrastructure now do you want to bomb desalination plants you're

00:39:38.040 talking about i mean they depend on that no no the president came out the president you talk about

00:39:43.140 firebombing um tokyo you know general lame and those guys and when they came up with napalm they

00:39:49.500 had all the formulas worked out they were going to treetop level because they had to get the ball

00:39:53.140 bearing plants of the japanese and put into the into the into the residential community these

00:39:58.600 little bamboo, you know, structures. And they did the calculation and said, well, gosh, if you go

00:40:03.740 on a treetop level and we got this new thing called napalm, we calculate this is going to

00:40:07.740 create firestorms. And LeMay goes, yeah, that's the point, right? We're going to burn it all down.

00:40:12.960 We're going to take a, he says, famous quote is, we're going to take a torch to the enemy

00:40:15.980 because, you know, in Iwo Jima and all these places, it was bloodier and bloodier as you

00:40:20.580 got to Japan. And we thought we're going to lose a million men, one million men in the invasion

00:40:25.540 of japan president trump said the opposite today president trump goes out and says hey

00:40:29.840 they want me to hit the desalination plants they want me to hit the water these people are barely

00:40:34.320 surviving now if i cut them off from water that's inhumane so president trump has natural

00:40:40.060 restrictions he's put on himself in trying to you know trying to get to a conclusion here sir

00:40:46.440 well that's correct but to that that's my point which is you're not this will not succeed i mean

00:40:52.720 Again, you can bomb stuff unless you cause a humanitarian crisis, which I'm certainly totally against that.

00:40:59.140 But unless you cause that, unless you do something the equivalent of creating a firestorm in Tehran, then it's not going to work.

00:41:07.220 And even then, I'm not sure what you would get out of it.

00:41:11.260 So this is not Maduro.

00:41:12.820 See, Maduro got – he's in prison in New York somewhere, a federal detention center.

00:41:19.300 He kind of got off lucky. 0.99

00:41:20.460 We killed the Ayatollah. 1.00

00:41:22.320 We killed actually, well, we killed the I-TOL. 0.97

00:41:24.560 We killed 40 leaders. 0.96

00:41:25.680 We killed 40 more leaders. 0.99

00:41:26.720 We kept killing them. 0.98

00:41:27.720 The new group, by the way, are younger and more resolute, more nationalist. 0.96

00:41:33.480 There is a theocracy.

00:41:34.860 I get that.

00:41:35.680 And a dictatorship.

00:41:36.600 It's a nationalist one.

00:41:38.160 This is actually a more robust group than the 70 and 80-year-olds who were running it before. 0.87

00:41:43.500 So, see, you can take Karg Island and you can bomb the Iranian export infrastructure. 0.96

00:41:50.320 You can do that. 0.87

00:41:51.360 Now you're taking Iranian oil off the market.

00:41:53.420 OK.

00:41:54.600 But again, that just creates other problems upstream.

00:41:58.560 But here's my point.

00:42:00.160 If you think that doing that will cause Iran to surrender, that's a mistake.

00:42:04.180 They will not surrender. 0.94

00:42:05.440 And so you just keep bombing.

00:42:10.840 What would be your advice to the president?

00:42:12.860 Because you saw the economy we had EJ on earlier.

00:42:15.240 or, you know, we had a, let's say we had a suboptimal print today about inflation.

00:42:22.260 You know, the president had the economy starting to turn around, hitting on all cylinders.

00:42:26.100 You cataloged it for us, you know, week after week as this turnaround.

00:42:31.320 We've obviously hit, you know, a big speed bump.

00:42:35.140 I got a minute on this side.

00:42:36.420 I want to hold you through, Rikers, because I want people to get to strategic intelligence.

00:42:40.040 What would be your advice to the president?

00:42:41.480 I would get J.D. Vance and the two best speechwriters you can find and come up with the best fig leaf you can find and get out.

00:42:52.240 Now, I would go immediately to financial warfare.

00:42:54.820 By the way, that worked in 2011, 2012.

00:42:58.660 Obama and the Treasury ran financial warfare, and they got Iran to the table, and Iran signed a deal.

00:43:04.140 Now, you can say it was a lousy deal.

00:43:05.420 Okay, separate issue.

00:43:06.700 But that actually worked.

00:43:07.860 I talked to the Treasury official at the time.

00:43:09.760 I said, why don't you keep going?

00:43:10.540 You might get regime change with banking bans.

00:43:15.280 But I'd go to financial warfare.

00:43:16.820 I'm not saying we give up.

00:43:18.840 But you've got to get out. 0.97

00:43:20.560 And look, Afghanistan, the withdrawal from Afghanistan was a disgrace and a tragedy. 0.72

00:43:26.260 We lost in Vietnam.

00:43:28.500 America has been through this before.

00:43:30.620 So it's no fun and there will be a lot of criticism, et cetera.

00:43:34.760 But it's better than the alternatives.

00:43:36.600 It's better than, well, the stalemate, as I say, won't work for the reason I mentioned,

00:43:40.040 which is going to run out of oil and escalation won't work either and and by the way if escalate

00:43:46.440 as escalation is not working the straight is still closed i keep coming back to that people's

00:43:52.200 you know the market and wall street and you know so they're like well give us give it a couple days

00:43:56.840 a couple weeks or whatever but they've been saying that we're in the fourth month we're

00:44:00.040 getting close to five months straight still close so you've got to uh get straight open maybe with

00:44:06.040 Iranian toll charges. Maybe that's the price you have to pay. I think I think I think this is one

00:44:10.580 of the reasons the British defense minister resigned today. He knows that's going to be

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00:47:46.020 And I said he's going to escalation.

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00:47:49.560 I called my managing editor.

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00:48:17.560 do we have a clip? We got Michael. Let's play the clip of the Pentagon. Very, very, very serious

00:48:21.240 what's happened in the Pentagon. Let's go ahead and play it. Right now, we did just receive a

00:48:25.900 statement from Chief Pentagon spokesman Sean Parnell saying that the Pentagon has sophisticated

00:48:31.800 systems to ensure that the safety of the building and its occupants, those systems have detected an

00:48:37.920 air quality issue, as we've been reporting, necessitating precautionary measures until we

00:48:42.500 determine its significance. The department is executing standard protection protocols,

00:48:47.160 including a shelter in place order for the affected area. Response teams are in place and

00:48:52.240 ready to support building occupants. I think it's important to note, Ana, that they regularly do

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00:49:06.300 something like an active shooter or a threat to the building, but also for something like this

00:49:12.460 that would involve hazardous materials. So those protocols are in place. That's exactly what

00:49:18.200 they're executing at this point they're working in conjunction as we know with them yeah something's

00:49:23.140 going on we don't know how serious but let's say this the Pentagon does not they don't call for

00:49:27.320 these types of shelter-in-place orders I've worked there for a couple of years back as a young naval

00:49:32.740 officer it's quite a complex quite a complex and they do not there's something going on there we'll

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00:51:45.360 you're going to pass it over to charlie uh to andrew colvette and the charlie kirk team for

00:51:49.740 charlie kirk show there is a live incident hazardous materials incident has been called

00:51:55.820 at the pentagon there i don't think they're evacuating there are some rumors going around

00:51:59.340 but at least right now it's shelter in place the charlie kirk show in real america's voice

00:52:04.700 will get you up to speed we will be back you've got poso at two gruber after that i'll be on the

00:52:10.140 eric bowling show at the latter part of it uh to um to make sure we do a transition we're going to

00:52:15.660 We're talking about the oil markets and also going up the escalatory ladder, including the president has identified Carg Island.

00:52:23.160 And by that time, I think we'll understand what exactly this incident is at the Pentagon, if it's some mechanical problem or something's actually going on.

00:52:31.200 And if it's related to the great heroes, they're putting together the war plans, executing the war plans with Pete Hegseth and the team over at the over at the Pentagon.

00:52:40.800 And we'll be back at 5, and of course, there's just an amazing amount of news.

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Bannon's War Room - June 11, 2026

Episode 5437： Populist Uprising IN The UK; More Bombing In Iran; Lockdown At The Pentagon

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