Bannon's War Room - June 11, 2026


Episode 5438: President Trump Calls Off Iran Bombing; Jay Clayton Nominated For DNI


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00:00:00.000 to create, to develop a nuke. And he said, yes, every deal that we were willing to do
00:00:04.940 has that as its, its, its basis. And so I, I, I think the predicate, the predicate for the
00:00:13.580 nuclear part is what president Trump has delivered. He's going to continue to deliver
00:00:17.000 on the military side. He took them out total destruction back in June. They might've had
00:00:22.380 some disparate elements left and, and the nuclear pixie dust. It looks like he got some of that.
00:00:28.660 Maybe you've got to get some more.
00:00:29.660 But everything there, I wouldn't take anything they wrote on paper at face value.
00:00:33.760 I think you've got to militarily destroy it.
00:00:35.460 Ben, do you think there's a deal ready to be signed within 72 hours?
00:00:42.540 I don't think we will have a deal signed in 72 hours.
00:00:47.360 Six months?
00:00:47.780 On a piece of paper, no.
00:00:48.840 Six months?
00:00:49.540 I don't know.
00:00:50.540 I think it depends on what the president's strategy is.
00:00:52.680 Like I said, I'm not so sure you're ever going to get to a signed piece of paper with these guys.
00:00:57.060 I think you have to set your objectives of what you're trying to do on the nuclear program, which you said was your goal.
00:01:02.200 Also, the Straits of Hormuz, figure out with economic warfare, kinetic warfare, and diplomatic pressure, what you can live with. 0.85
00:01:12.240 And then it's most important to seal it up and pull out and come home.
00:01:16.520 Why not?
00:01:16.840 And let's get back to this.
00:01:17.760 Why not just do we say yes, just sail those destroyers through the strait a couple of times, hold it, map it, GPS it out.
00:01:25.380 Make sure we hold it down with with with Intel. And you've opened the straight without having to cut a deal with the Iranians. 0.99
00:01:33.220 I love it. Anyway, this is a it's a it's a it's a movable feast right now. 0.98
00:01:38.640 The president's working nonstop on it. The fleet's still out there.
00:01:41.200 He hasn't called off the Navy. And last night he delivered, I think, 49 Tomahawk hits.
00:01:47.360 So he says he's doing it again tonight. They got the document.
00:01:50.760 And as as he as he said, you know, he's not going to back off this.
00:01:59.700 So I think it's not there's plenty of time to point the finger and figure out how we got in this.
00:02:05.620 I think this announcement today on D&I, we're going to get into it during the war room.
00:02:09.820 It's President Trump's trying to get his arms around that in the deep state.
00:02:13.940 But I think it's most incumbent upon him now to figure out exactly who we're dealing with, what we can get done.
00:02:19.780 what's the limits and framework of that and then let's get on with it and uh and and pull it out
00:02:24.320 pull out and come home i want i want to i'm going to call politico and say is that is one of those
00:02:29.040 senior advisor outside advisors mr stephen k bannon because i think i'm a simple i'm a simple
00:02:33.960 tv just might be just simple i'm a simple tv host thank you eric i know you guys go do a
00:02:40.700 pre-record right now let's go back to work have a great show thank you brother now are we at
00:02:45.860 heritage live do we have it there haven't started yet okay our guests from this morning the acting
00:02:53.600 or the shadow they have these things the shadow home secretary that means reforms got a guy that
00:02:58.340 sits in the kind of the home secretary's seat and take shots at the government as what their
00:03:04.620 counter counter argument would be if they had if they were in power this is Nigel Farage's right
00:03:10.000 hand man Zia Yusuf is speaking at the Heritage Foundation the Institute and we're going to pick
00:03:15.600 it up at least part of it when he goes we've got a cold open let's hit that i got neil mccabe at
00:03:21.020 the white house eric metaxa is going to join us we're packed on a thursday afternoon here in the
00:03:25.880 world let's go to the cold open a great settlement of the war with the red and we're going to be uh
00:03:33.920 subject to finalization of documents we should get done over the next few days probably have a
00:03:40.860 signing maybe in Europe, and it's a great thing. Stock market's up 1,000 points. That means they
00:03:48.480 like the deal. See, that means if the market goes down, that means they don't like the deal.
00:03:53.080 But it's been up. Oil's dropped. Oil will start coming down to, I think, even lower than it was
00:03:58.220 before. What do you think about this nomination of U.S. Attorney Jay Clayton to be the permanent
00:04:04.740 DNI? Well, Jay Clayton certainly has more national security expertise than Bill Pulte,
00:04:11.140 but still not a lot in the grand scheme of things. Now, Jay Clayton, as you said,
00:04:15.180 is the U.S. attorney right now for the Southern District of New York, my former office. But before
00:04:19.720 that, the 30 years of his legal career were primarily spent either as an associate or a
00:04:25.380 partner at a big Manhattan law firm where he was doing primarily corporate deals and that type of
00:04:31.020 thing. And in 2017, he became the chair of the SEC, the Securities and Exchange Commission,
00:04:35.980 where he was involved with regulating the markets and financial transactions. So his only real
00:04:41.940 experience in the national security area comes over the last year when he was U.S. attorney at
00:04:47.140 the Southern District of New York. Now, that said, if you're going to get experience in terrorism
00:04:52.220 cases and national security cases, the SDNY is probably the single best U.S. attorney's office
00:04:57.520 in the country to do that because the SDNY specializes in those areas, has long brought
00:05:02.980 cases involving terrorist attacks, international and domestic terrorist organizations. And indeed,
00:05:10.080 Jay Clayton has overseen some investigations and prosecutions of that nature during his time as
00:05:14.700 U.S. attorney over the past year. Pleased to announce the nomination of very highly respected
00:05:19.160 Jay Clayton, former chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission, the former head of
00:05:23.500 Sullivan and Cromwell, one of the most prominent and successful law firms anywhere in the world,
00:05:28.560 and the current United States attorney for the Southern District of New York to be the next
00:05:32.120 director of national intelligence and, importantly, to serve in my cabinet. I'll leave the rest for
00:05:37.660 the viewers to read. But, Catherine, speak to who this person is. Who is Jay Clayton?
00:05:43.760 Well, the president is right. He is a very highly respected attorney. He was chair of the SEC. He
00:05:49.700 was a partner at Sullivan Cromwell. I don't know. It was the best law firm in the world,
00:05:52.880 but is a highly respected law firm, and he's the current United States attorney for the Southern District of New York.
00:05:59.160 But federal law requires that this position be given to some of the extensive national security experience,
00:06:07.280 and it doesn't appear that Jay Clayton has that.
00:06:10.100 Clearly, he is a very competent, highly qualified attorney and qualified to be the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York.
00:06:18.040 It's not clear about that requirement of extensive national security experience.
00:06:24.480 Do you intend to have Bill Pulte continue to serve as the acting director of national intelligence?
00:06:31.220 And do you think it's unreasonable that some Republicans have concerns that he has no intelligence experience, even if he's serving in this acting role?
00:06:37.500 But he's intelligent, unlike a lot of other people.
00:06:40.760 But do you think that's fair?
00:06:42.100 No intelligence?
00:06:42.720 He's only there for a little while.
00:06:44.220 He's running it for a short while.
00:06:45.560 Well, we get a very talented person, Jay Clayton.
00:06:48.580 And as you know, Jay Clayton's an incredible talent,
00:06:50.960 the head of Sullivan and Cromwell.
00:06:53.220 He was head of the SEC.
00:06:55.020 He's now Southern District.
00:06:57.300 I mean, nobody has better credentials.
00:06:59.600 But Bill will run it for a short while.
00:07:01.940 He's done a fantastic job at Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac.
00:07:05.440 Created tremendous, it's probably worth a trillion dollars now.
00:07:09.000 Trillion.
00:07:10.120 He's done a great job.
00:07:11.140 He's a smart guy.
00:07:11.900 Mr. President.
00:07:12.540 Mr. President, on Iran, how confident are you that there will be a signing this weekend?
00:07:17.860 Because you have come close to sealing a deal, but at the last minute it has fallen apart.
00:07:23.600 It'll be soon. Maybe this weekend.
00:07:26.860 And has the Supreme Leader approved this deal, sir?
00:07:29.580 I understand the answer is yes.
00:07:31.800 And when this deal is signed, is the United States going to immediately lift the blockade?
00:07:37.740 Yes, that's true. That's part of the deal.
00:07:39.460 And you'll have oil prices dropping like a rock.
00:07:44.460 And, sir, have you actually secured an agreement on the discussions about the nuclear material
00:07:50.920 and the nuclear negotiations?
00:07:51.920 Yes, conceptually on that.
00:07:53.780 And nobody's getting close to it because it's buried under a mountain, basically.
00:07:58.460 There's B-2 bombers in there.
00:08:01.460 But has Iran committed to not pursuing a nuclear weapon?
00:08:08.000 Or will there be more negotiations on that down the line?
00:08:10.680 They will not have a nuclear weapon.
00:08:12.460 They've agreed to that.
00:08:13.460 There will be no, which is the whole reason, which is a big part of the reason.
00:08:17.060 Is that going to be in your agreement, sir?
00:08:18.840 They will not only not have, they will not purchase, develop in any way, any shape, in
00:08:23.620 any way, shape or form a nuclear weapon.
00:08:25.720 They will not have a nuclear weapon.
00:08:27.120 You have said before that Iran and the United States were close to a deal.
00:08:30.900 It has not happened yet.
00:08:32.440 Why are you so convinced that this time is different?
00:08:36.680 they've taken a pounding they've taken a pounding like very few people could take
00:08:41.720 and they want to make the deal a lot more than i do and uh we could have had it done the other way
00:08:47.560 i guess but it would have taken longer they uh they got hit very hard recently as you know
00:08:54.200 and i don't like to have to do things that way but i felt it was necessary
00:08:58.360 it's a great deal for the united states and for the middle east and i think ultimately great for
00:09:02.520 run because they'll be able to build up their country and other country i really believe it's
00:09:07.560 a regime change because i find these people to be much more rational than the people that are
00:09:13.480 no longer with us we knocked out the first team of leadership the second team of leadership is
00:09:19.320 a different group is a different level and i think it's a frankly a smarter level and it's a level
00:09:24.040 that has reason and they've all approved the deal everybody's approved the deal now we'll get it
00:09:31.480 finished up and hopefully that'll be done iran will in no way shape or form have a nuclear weapon
00:09:38.840 or purchase a nuclear weapon when it comes to nuclear you said this was just the concept of
00:09:44.680 that agreement so is this just essentially setting the stage for deeper talks it's a very strong
00:09:49.880 memorandum of understanding that is a little conceptual but it's something that's going to
00:09:54.600 get done and if it doesn't get done for any reason which i can't imagine that not happening they want
00:09:59.480 to sign it as much as i do or more i would say they want to sign it more maybe a lot more but
00:10:05.240 it's a very detailed a memorandum of understanding also agreed to by many other countries that have
00:10:10.920 great influence over them and everybody wants it done so it's going to get the amount of time
00:10:16.840 that has to pass between this memorandum of understanding and a final deal being done well
00:10:21.560 we hope it's going to go relatively quickly but it's 16 or 9 the straits are going to open
00:10:26.360 immediately this is fun signing maybe it'll be saturday or monday is there a deadline though to
00:10:31.160 get from this to a final deal uh we think it's going to go pretty quickly i don't want to say
00:10:37.680 a deadline because if i say a deadline you'll say oh he didn't meet the deadline you know this is
00:10:42.520 like it's not going to matter much because uh it's going to get signed and the strait is open
00:10:49.700 the straits have been open for a number of months already and you just didn't know about it you know
00:10:55.260 You, as reporters, weren't able to get it.
00:10:57.940 I just announced yesterday that we brought a lot of ships through and nobody knew about it.
00:11:01.920 I guess we did a pretty good job, Peter, right?
00:11:04.040 But we brought many, many ships across and millions, hundreds of millions of barrels of oil were brought across.
00:11:12.700 And there wasn't a thing that anybody could have done about that.
00:11:16.160 I think with his law background and his experience, I think he certainly will be much more, I think, less reckless than a Bill Pulte will be.
00:11:26.920 And the question is whether he can stave off any type of pressure that he feels from the White House to actually give up the goods that they want on this.
00:11:35.640 Because like you, I do not believe Donald Trump is going to relent at all as far as continuing to pursue this, you know, these arguments that the elections are rigged whenever anybody that he doesn't like is elected.
00:11:48.460 So but again, I think Jay Clayton's background experience tells us that he's not going to be a Bill Pult.
00:11:53.800 He's not going to be a pit bull that goes in there. He may, in fact, try to get down from something.
00:11:58.620 And again, I'm just hoping that he's not going to, again, politicize the office and to further alienate, I think, a already demoralized workforce, not just in the ODNI, but also throughout the intelligence community.
00:12:12.080 uh that's brennan a crook who should be in prison but because we're moving so slow
00:12:18.420 in rounding up uh the guilty um he's not and he can still go on msnbc in a pint oh excuse me it's
00:12:27.180 ms now as the president informs us this morning it's because nbc doesn't want their brand tainted
00:12:33.200 with it that's why they spun it off he gave it a new name um jay clayton uh so we're gonna go to
00:12:39.740 the White House after the commercial break. McCabe is with you. They had a FISA vote. We'll
00:12:44.860 also break that down. Jay Clayton was a senior, I think he was a senior partner on the managing
00:12:50.000 committee of Sullivan and Cromwell. Sullivan and Cromwell is one of the most prominent law firms
00:12:55.080 in the world. It is really the house law firm for Goldman Sachs, all the big transactions,
00:13:01.560 including, I'm sure, Sullivan and Cromwell is working on this massive transaction on SpaceX,
00:13:07.000 The largest public offering, I think, in history is going to take place on Monday.
00:13:11.580 I'm sure that working through the prospectus of the due diligence.
00:13:14.000 So it's very prominent.
00:13:15.840 So Jay Clayton would have had tons of experience there.
00:13:18.360 And also in the Southern District of New York, Jay Clayton was not confirmed for the Southern
00:13:22.960 District.
00:13:23.360 He had to be appointed by federal judges because of the whole blue slip fiasco.
00:13:27.800 But he is head of Southern District, the most powerful U.S. attorney's office.
00:13:32.020 And one of the most, I would say, right below the Attorney General of the United States,
00:13:35.660 Southern District of New York. The head of that is probably the second most powerful government
00:13:39.980 lawyer on the prosecution side going. Jay Clayton was also in-house counsel, left Sullivan and
00:13:46.800 Cromwell to be in-house counsel for Alibaba on their public offering. That's going to be a little
00:13:51.760 controversial because Alibaba at the time had Jack Ma, and Jack Ma is an agent, a Chinese agent. He
00:13:57.780 was the founder chairman before he kind of got moved out by the CCP. And I think Alibaba has
00:14:05.060 has been named, associated with the military asset of the Chinese Communist Party.
00:14:09.020 Anyway, it's a little hair on that that'll have to be answered.
00:14:12.560 But Jay Clayton from Sullivan and Cromwell, the firm of, wait for it, John Foster Dulles.
00:14:22.140 That's not globalist.
00:14:24.020 That's the daddy of globalism.
00:14:26.560 John Foster Dulles was also the senior partner at Sullivan and Cromwell after World War II.
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00:17:34.560 Of course, last night, up the prosecutory ladder, President Trump is going to do it again tonight and said,
00:17:41.080 nah, maybe, you know, I've got this MOU, it's somewhere in process.
00:17:45.600 And like I said, every time he says that, some other guy in Iran comes out and says,
00:17:50.440 I never heard of him, never heard of it, we're not working on it.
00:17:53.240 But that, once again, gets back to the issue of exactly who is there to make a deal and can deliver the country's commitment to it.
00:18:02.060 Because I think they're pretty shattered right now.
00:18:04.040 But that's what happens when you go in and do these raids that shatters the senior leadership.
00:18:11.000 Although you couldn't trust them in the first place.
00:18:13.040 The whole thing with the JCPOA and all these deals have been a joke because you can't trust these guys.
00:18:18.120 Not that you can trust our allies either, just by actions in the Gulf.
00:18:22.440 and the Gulf Emirates, the Saudis, Israelis, the whole lot.
00:18:27.060 Let's just wrap it up.
00:18:28.680 Boom, pull out.
00:18:29.680 Let's get back here.
00:18:30.300 We've got enough problems right here, as you've seen,
00:18:33.120 with the economic turnaround going full bore 0.89
00:18:36.280 and then hit a speed bump called the Iran War.
00:18:40.220 I want to go to McCabe.
00:18:41.760 So, McCabe, first off, FISA, the holy relic of the deep state.
00:18:46.600 This is how important FISA is.
00:18:49.880 Johnson's all puffed up.
00:18:51.320 He's this morning, you know, national security is everything.
00:18:55.240 You know, doing yesterday national security is our number one process project and everything else is just conversation.
00:19:02.200 If you don't get that right, Johnson has a catastrophic vote on the House floor and then they leave for 10 days.
00:19:10.560 The FISA extension is so important.
00:19:14.020 National security is so vital.
00:19:15.800 He's up to the microphone, Polly Pockets going full Polly Pockets this morning.
00:19:19.300 OK, full Polly Pockets.
00:19:21.320 and it's so essential.
00:19:23.900 It expires at midnight. 0.72
00:19:25.800 This brother, he's got to talk to his whips.
00:19:28.700 He runs a vote, and they get less. 0.62
00:19:31.420 He's got to get two-thirds to win this.
00:19:35.540 I think it may even be two-thirds plus one vote,
00:19:37.220 but two-thirds, let's say, to win it.
00:19:39.160 They get less than the majority.
00:19:41.140 They all go home.
00:19:42.220 By the time they're asking questions,
00:19:43.660 everybody's gone to the airport.
00:19:46.120 The Congress side, the House side is empty.
00:19:50.060 That's how important.
00:19:50.640 So, McCabe, another major embarrassment for Johnson.
00:19:55.180 What's the reality, sir?
00:19:58.260 Well, there's a very wise man who once told me, first, you have to get national security right.
00:20:03.780 And everything else is just conversation, Steve.
00:20:06.480 And what you saw today at the House vote, they lost by 20.
00:20:11.260 But it wasn't really a loss by 20.
00:20:13.320 Like you said, it was really a loss by 80.
00:20:15.440 And so I don't know how on God's green earth you bring up a vote not knowing that you're going to lose by 80 like that just seems I can't imagine, you know, Sam Rayburn or Eddie McCormick or Tip O'Neill or Nancy Pelosi bringing something onto the floor knowing you're going to take an 80 vote loss.
00:20:38.260 But that's what they did today because they did it under suspension of the rules.
00:20:42.280 Normally, you do not use the suspension of the rules on a Thursday.
00:20:46.260 So they actually invoked the suspension and held it until today.
00:20:51.400 So that was also unusual.
00:20:53.260 And so, as you said, Pfizer goes dark on Friday.
00:20:56.780 And oh, well, I guess it's I guess it really wasn't as important as we thought.
00:21:01.460 But, you know, I think a lot of the Republicans, 20 Republicans voted against the passage of Pfizer.
00:21:06.660 that's why it was they didn't even get a simple majority because pfizer's used against us
00:21:11.560 you know and you have guys this is the whole point you have guys like uh
00:21:14.940 i was just going to say about sheldon snook mary mccord's husband worked for the pfizer court
00:21:23.400 and then in 2016 he jumps to work for chief john roberts he's the chief a for john roberts for
00:21:29.200 four years but you know john roberts is supposed to run the pfizer court and they completely abused
00:21:35.740 it and nothing happened to anybody and we're just supposed to say all right they've done some
00:21:39.920 reforms when you when you see mark warner and tom cotton and uh and lady lindsey graham um you know
00:21:48.260 cheering this has to happen and most important thing in human history has to do it just run the
00:21:53.140 other way just your life will work out a lot better just run the other way okay i've got a
00:21:57.620 some breaking news um this is a i'm reading now it's been it's been put up on the boards
00:22:04.980 Select Committee on Intelligence, Notice of Committee Hearings.
00:22:09.740 The Senate Select Committee on Intelligence will hold a closed briefing on Tuesday, June 16th from 3 to 5 p.m.
00:22:17.540 in the Senate Office Building.
00:22:19.920 They give the room number, but it's a closed briefing.
00:22:22.960 The Senate Select Committee on Intelligence will hold an open nomination hearing for the Honorable Jay Clayton
00:22:28.680 to be Director of National Intelligence on Wednesday, 17 June, from 2 to 5 p.m.
00:22:35.120 We will cover that, obviously, live.
00:22:37.980 And then they're going to go back and have a closed meeting the next day.
00:22:42.780 The deep state is running this one hard.
00:22:46.440 So the confirmation hearing is going to be next Wednesday, as just listed here,
00:22:50.800 put up on the boards.
00:22:54.440 McCabe, they want to get Clayton in.
00:22:56.720 This will tell you another thing.
00:22:58.500 President Trump should announce, if this is going to happen and Jay Clayton, they're going to rush the nomination through, he should name Bill Pulte.
00:23:05.620 They hate Bill Pulte so much.
00:23:07.640 They hate him and he scares him to death.
00:23:10.100 Bill Pulte ought to be named right now senior special assistant or senior deputy DNI.
00:23:15.720 Whatever you got to do, you got to put Pulte in there today because I've never seen the apparatus so afraid of any individual in my entire life.
00:23:24.340 They are absolutely apoplectic of Bill Pulte stepping over to DNI and kind of, I don't know, maybe look around the files, maybe actually check into the, you know, some of the election files of 2020, which we know that now have the information for your thoughts, McKay.
00:23:41.300 well i think one of the great innovations recently in election integrity sort of investigations
00:23:48.780 and watchfulness is you know we really didn't get much traction on the criminal justice side
00:23:55.940 but now once people realize that there's a foreign component to a lot of this election integrity
00:24:01.700 stuff now it comes into the wheelhouse of the intelligence agencies and that's why one of the
00:24:06.680 reasons why Tulsi Gabbard was able to grab those Fulton County ballots. And so if, if, if Pulte
00:24:13.160 was some incompetent stooge, they would not care, right? They're afraid of him because he's smart, 0.90
00:24:20.620 he's hardworking, and the president trusts him a hundred percent. Plus he has what the
00:24:25.620 Kennedys used to call FU money. Yeah. And he's, uh, actually he has F everybody money. It's
00:24:32.160 different. F you money. He's a notch up. F everybody money. I want to go to something
00:24:37.740 that this tells you about. When the deep state and the apparatus want to move on somebody,
00:24:43.300 they can't have this guy Pulte around. They couldn't have Tulsi around, but Pulte can't
00:24:46.760 replace her. They will move heaven and earth. Let me repeat. From being announced a little while ago, 0.99
00:24:53.060 we have a confirmation hearing. Now, that's not enough time to fill out the voluminous paperwork.
00:24:58.580 and somebody says, well, he's already SEC
00:25:00.740 and he's already Southern District of New York.
00:25:03.120 He was not confirmed in Southern District of New York.
00:25:05.460 That was this thing with the blue slips
00:25:07.040 and the judges appointing him.
00:25:08.800 The SEC is like, you know, class B ball compared to this.
00:25:12.720 When you're CIA or DNI,
00:25:14.500 this is where they do the proctology exam.
00:25:16.680 So my point is the system shows you it's phony
00:25:19.780 from the root and branch.
00:25:23.400 They want Clayton.
00:25:24.640 They want Clayton because Clayton,
00:25:26.460 being at Sullivan and Cromwell as part of the establishment, it's a good pick for President
00:25:29.900 Trump. It's a very prestigious, remember, he's had a tough time getting lawyers. That's when you get
00:25:34.320 a guy that was on the management, ran the management committee, something Cromwell, that's
00:25:37.960 a major player. However, it shows you the Democrats and the RINO establishment, they want
00:25:43.640 Pultean, they will, hey, we don't need any paperwork. We don't need to, he doesn't need
00:25:47.900 to file a financial statement. We're going to have a confirmation hearing, a public confirmation
00:25:52.840 hearing next Wednesday. For the nation's good, we've got to get this in there. Of course, you
00:25:58.080 know, FISA, you know, FISA can't, we need these tools. We have to have the wireless, got to have
00:26:02.640 it. You know, Polly Pocket's sitting there. This is the most important thing in human history. It
00:26:06.540 must be done. He doesn't even get a majority. Like you said, I think 20 guys in the Freedom
00:26:10.840 Caucus said, hey, not for us at this time, not going to do it. He gets blown out today. They
00:26:16.000 get on a plane. They're not back. They're not back for a week. Now they will call him back to
00:26:20.540 try to get this thing put in next week, but it expires on Friday. All the other presidential
00:26:27.440 nominations that are so important have been in hang fire, right? Backed up for months and months
00:26:33.620 and months, and this is why we're all over the recess appointments, is that when it's not in
00:26:39.520 their interest, when the president wants to do it for his program, it takes forever, right? You've
00:26:44.960 got these guys, ambassadors have been held up for months and months and months. When you have
00:26:48.660 If anything else that President Trump wants to do on those couple of tiers down, it takes forever, right?
00:26:54.080 But when they get something they want to do, Jay Clayton's got a confirmation hearing on Wednesday afternoon.
00:27:00.820 And, hey, Jay, can you send the paperwork over like next week?
00:27:04.060 Let's vote first.
00:27:04.960 We'll vote to confirm, and then we'll get it.
00:27:07.260 McCabe, give me a minute, and I'm going to hold you through the break.
00:27:09.280 What do you got?
00:27:11.820 I just want to make the point that, you know, when you're talking about the Senate,
00:27:15.220 jd vance is the president of the united states senate he is does not even have to be recognized
00:27:21.740 he walks into the chamber he takes the gavel he can declare the senate in recess he can fire
00:27:28.820 the parliamentarian right he can reject the parliamentarian's recommendations i want to
00:27:33.860 have you have you have you double checked that have you done because today we had
00:27:39.600 Meadows on what I know we can do is Polly Pockets can put the house into 1.00
00:27:44.880 recess.
00:27:45.660 He can do that.
00:27:46.620 And we're going to force that.
00:27:47.860 And then that goes to the Senate.
00:27:50.500 If the Senate doesn't approve it,
00:27:52.000 the president by the constitution,
00:27:53.880 article two can be the referee.
00:27:55.780 And he didn't clear,
00:27:56.840 he declared the Senate in recess with the house.
00:27:59.800 Then he can make recess appointments.
00:28:01.840 I'm not so sure JD.
00:28:03.720 Have you checked that?
00:28:06.880 Have you double checked it?
00:28:09.600 As the presiding officer, yes, he can do it.
00:28:13.080 Okay, fine.
00:28:13.880 And then it can be objected. 0.81
00:28:14.980 The Senate can have a vote to reject it.
00:28:17.480 I got it.
00:28:18.100 Just hang on for a second.
00:28:19.440 Got Neil McCabe at the White House on a quite active Thursday.
00:28:25.160 Jay Clayton now, nominated a little while ago.
00:28:29.520 Confirmation hearing on Wednesday, less than a week.
00:28:32.660 You can't make this stuff up.
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00:30:24.860 War Room.
00:30:25.900 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.
00:30:29.140 Okay, McCabe's checking the robot.
00:30:30.980 I'm just kidding.
00:30:31.720 Neil's still at the White House.
00:30:32.960 We've got other stuff we're going to go through, and we're going to go back to Neil.
00:30:35.360 So a cultural moment, we're heading down the path to our 250th, the commemoration of our 250th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence.
00:30:45.280 Remember, that was kind of a declaration of war and kicked off the war of independence that lasted for many, many, many years.
00:30:52.500 The lesson from there, if you don't quit, you'll eventually win if you're tough enough and hard enough.
00:30:57.200 And that's what happened with the great patriots that are part of what we call the revolutionary generation.
00:31:02.440 Revolution is a book from Eric Metaxas, 600 pages long, magnificent color.
00:31:08.320 In fact, let me just give you that.
00:31:09.360 Even the insert right here, you've got the magnificent painting.
00:31:12.500 Look at that.
00:31:13.460 This is what's called a very classy book.
00:31:16.800 It is beautifully bound, a huge section on some of the best color paintings
00:31:24.160 and portraits of the revolutionary period.
00:31:27.300 You get the whole thing, and it's so well written.
00:31:29.640 Once you get into it, you can't put it down.
00:31:31.740 Now, the cultural moment with all the negativity, and they've got some, you know, Howard Zinn, which is the, you know, the people's history of the United States.
00:31:39.400 This is what your kids have been indoctrinated in for, you know, decade after decade after decade.
00:31:45.180 America's evil.
00:31:46.160 This is stolen land, you know, on and on and on of all the faults of the United States, the greatest nation on earth.
00:31:52.640 In fact, I know that because the subtitle of revolution is the birth of the greatest nation in the history of the world, the history of the world.
00:32:01.120 So therefore, for that book to be number one or two on the New York Times bestseller list,
00:32:06.580 which is how the elites in this country keep control of the culture.
00:32:10.760 They keep control of the cultural institutes and institutions of the culture.
00:32:15.340 Tony Lyons, talk to me about the phoniness of what the New York Times has done here,
00:32:20.700 particularly about we talk about book sales and unit sales vis-a-vis revolution,
00:32:25.560 which is a celebration.
00:32:27.500 It's an amazing adventure story.
00:32:28.920 And by the way, the warts are in there.
00:32:31.600 Eric Metaxas doesn't color over it.
00:32:35.220 He shows that.
00:32:36.300 We're not perfect.
00:32:37.220 We're a human institution.
00:32:39.060 Of course, we're not perfect.
00:32:41.000 But they had to have Jill Bidens. 0.99
00:32:43.500 They can't have a patriotic history of the United States as number one. 0.97
00:32:48.400 That does not work, OK?
00:32:50.320 Because once you're in the top echelon, you get to go everywhere. 1.00
00:32:53.840 But to have it as number one, the New York Times, I think the Salzburgers would sell 1.00
00:32:57.440 the paper. 1.00
00:32:58.920 So what do they do? And you've got some facts to back it up about just raw unit sales. Talk to us
00:33:05.140 about that. Yeah. Let me tell you that the New York Times called Jill Biden's book, you know,
00:33:12.380 before they saw any of the numbers, the nonfiction book, everyone in the country will be reading
00:33:17.960 this summer. So they decided that beforehand. But, you know, look at what the president said.
00:33:23.140 He said, you know, Eric's a great guy, but he said, you know, this is an incredible book.
00:33:29.820 He says, Eric honors the faith and wisdom and courage of the great patriots who sacrificed so much to secure our freedom.
00:33:38.660 He said, these stories of our shared past inspire us to build a future bigger, greater and stronger than ever before.
00:33:46.000 So, you know, look at that. That's the president versus The New York Times.
00:33:49.740 And despite censorship from newspapers, from libraries, from Barnes and Noble, from hundreds of bookstores all around the country that stacked up Jill Biden's book everywhere to the rafters, they were desperate for this book to sell well because it's a political statement for them.
00:34:06.620 But Eric's book outsold it by more than 25 percent.
00:34:12.340 So Jill Biden's book sold just over 20,000 copies in the week.
00:34:17.240 And Eric's book, you know, this book sold 25,735 copies in the week.
00:34:23.300 And those are real sales.
00:34:25.020 Those are not sales from some pack or friends of the author trying to make a point.
00:34:32.000 Hang on.
00:34:32.920 I'm just a simple guy.
00:34:34.160 We're simple people here at the War Room.
00:34:35.840 We're just, we're hobbits in the MAGA movement.
00:34:38.340 I just want to opine Eric's revolution sold 25,000 Jill Biden sold 20.
00:34:44.860 And that's by book scan. That is the hardest number you can get.
00:34:47.840 That is book. That is units that get scanned at these things across the country.
00:34:51.300 Eric sells 25,000 Jill Biden sells 20,000.
00:34:55.500 How is Eric sitting on the podium at the book Olympics and he's got the silver
00:34:59.840 medal.
00:35:00.200 It seems to me just being a simple guide that the 25,000 is higher than the 20,000, sir.
00:35:07.480 Yeah.
00:35:08.100 So I want everybody watching this to go on to Amazon right now and they will see a little
00:35:12.780 blue mark that says that Eric's book is the number one bestselling book in the country
00:35:18.800 for the week.
00:35:19.780 And then go look at Joe Biden's book.
00:35:22.800 And it's listed as it's at number 270, no, excuse me, 217 right now.
00:35:29.300 So 217. So when when all of the elites who were desperate for her to have a number one bestseller, when all of them stopped buying in bulk, her book just died cold.
00:35:43.240 Yeah. And, you know, if you think about it, you know, the same thing happened with Kamala Harris's book, you know, that nobody wanted it.
00:35:50.880 It was Pax buying it. It was groups of people buying it, trying to make a point.
00:35:54.820 But it wasn't consumers because consumers want to read books that really have substance that, you know, this is a book, this this book revolution.
00:36:04.820 This is a book that you cannot put down when you start reading it and you will never forget it for the rest of your life.
00:36:11.120 That's what kind of book this is. This is not just a political game. This is the real thing. And that's what this is all about, that those people are trying to make a political point, to make a sort of historic cultural point that Jill Biden means something.
00:36:30.240 But we know that this is an obscure book written by the wife of a failed president, and nobody cares about it.
00:36:39.560 They can't get their own people to buy this book.
00:36:42.460 But I think Eric's book is going to sell hundreds of thousands of copies because that's what Americans want.
00:36:49.200 Yeah, these PACs, they're just buying in bulk.
00:36:51.600 And we've kind of ripped the mask off it about the phoniness, and that's why he's two now.
00:36:56.460 He's going to be one next week.
00:36:58.000 Eric Metaxas, talk to us.
00:37:00.080 Why should people not, you've seen the number, by the way, you're right.
00:37:02.840 You were silver on the podium.
00:37:04.220 You should have been up there with the gold and you should be number one.
00:37:08.340 If you're not number one this week, we're going to power through to be number one next
00:37:11.180 week.
00:37:11.500 Talk to me about why right now in the run-up to July 4th, it's important not just to get
00:37:17.180 the book for yourself, but to get it for your loved ones as a gift for the celebrate the
00:37:22.300 birthday of the nation, sir.
00:37:24.400 Well, this is the book for anybody that doesn't hate America.
00:37:27.880 Let's start there.
00:37:28.700 If you don't hate America, this is the book for you. This is a true accounting of the story of the American Revolution. That's all it is, basically. It's meant to be a history book for every American.
00:37:40.000 But I got to tell you one thing, as I heard you guys talking, Publishers Weekly, which is the gold standard in publishing, just listed my book as number one for the week.
00:37:50.540 Just before I came on the show, boom, it's number one.
00:37:53.380 Jill Biden's book was a distant second.
00:37:57.260 And I thought, why could they be honest?
00:37:59.560 It's fascinating to me.
00:38:00.700 It's kind of crazy.
00:38:01.140 And there's other lists.
00:38:02.380 You mentioned Amazon put it at number one.
00:38:04.780 So it is very interesting.
00:38:06.720 I mean, we're living.
00:38:07.320 Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
00:38:09.320 have book scan which is a hard number book scan you're number one by 25 it's not close
00:38:15.200 you're number one on publishers weekly which is the industry insider gold standard you're number
00:38:20.840 one on amazon which is the whole world can see that can't hide they change that every second
00:38:25.300 you're number one there by a big distance she's not even competitive yet on the new york times
00:38:30.020 where the culture leads they can't have eric metaxas the first week out some conservative
00:38:34.980 guy that's a Christian that wrote Bonhoeffer writing a deeply spiritual book about the
00:38:39.620 American Revolution. It's impossible for them to say the Salzburgers would sell the paper 0.99
00:38:44.640 before they let that happen, sir. But this is why, when you ask me why people should buy the 1.00
00:38:48.680 book, ladies and gentlemen, because we're in a war, if you don't believe we're in a war,
00:38:52.060 why would the New York Times do that? They cannot bear people who love America and who give,
00:38:58.980 I mean, it's a true accounting. This is not hagiography. This is not, you know,
00:39:03.420 some Christian book. This is a history book of the story of the American Revolution. It tells
00:39:10.020 the truth. I mean, you can check it, check every fact, every footnote. This is the true story.
00:39:16.040 And it's even worse than that. It's readable. It's a book that people actually would want to
00:39:21.300 read. The feedback I've been getting has blessed my socks off that people, they say they can't put
00:39:25.360 it down. They love it. Listen, you should love your American history. A boring American history
00:39:30.080 book is a bad American history book. But I got to tell you, it's fascinating to me that the elites,
00:39:36.360 they cannot bear it, as you've been saying. And I think, listen, we need hope in America.
00:39:41.340 Every patriot in this country, and even a lot of people that they're worried about the country,
00:39:45.760 when you read this book, it will inspire you, not because I'm inspiring, but because the people
00:39:51.220 who lived this, these heroes of the revolution, their stories are so inspiring. You cannot fail,
00:39:56.780 but want to be part of that story you cannot fail to want to live out the revolution in our day and
00:40:02.200 you say how can I be faithful these people sacrificed everything what am I doing so I think
00:40:07.920 we're in a cultural moment where Americans realize we need to step up we need to celebrate America
00:40:13.160 we've heard enough about the Howard Zinn lunacy most of it is garbage the 1619 project I mean
00:40:19.320 it's simply false it's not just that we disagree with it it's patently false demonstrably false 0.76
00:40:24.900 This is the truth. And by the way, the truth is beautiful and good.
00:40:29.320 You picked at the scab. The 1619 Project originated with the, wait for it, New York Times.
00:40:36.380 That's why they can't have your book as number one. Impossible.
00:40:39.640 They could have every number in the world and they'll say, no, no, no, no.
00:40:43.040 Actually, this is number two, right?
00:40:45.260 Because they started the 1619 Project, which is to basically say the entire nation was predicated upon racism from the very beginning.
00:40:54.900 Steve, you know this goes back. Let's be honest. This goes back to Walter Durante. In the 1930s,
00:41:01.140 he got a Pulitzer Prize for singing the praises of Joseph Stalin while Stalin was starving
00:41:07.760 millions of Ukrainians. So this satanic evil that was going on there, they whitewashed it in the 0.59
00:41:13.700 1930s. They never took back that Pulitzer Prize. I mean, it's an unbelievable thing that the Wall
00:41:19.880 street journal you talk about having egg on your face it is so new york times new york times on
00:41:25.520 this one new york times i'm sorry that's what i meant of course obviously walter durant the new
00:41:30.540 york times it's a staggering moment in journalistic history they've never lived that down they've got
00:41:35.940 egg on their face and to this day they don't like to tell the truth that makes them uncomfortable
00:41:39.920 talking about numbers that was not a small one they starved to death five million people in 0.67
00:41:46.180 Ukraine. And Ukraine is the equivalent of Kansas. It's the wheat field. It's the breadbasket of 0.86
00:41:51.700 Europe and Central Asia. They star five million people. And the Moscow correspondent was saying,
00:41:56.720 they're saying Stalin's the greatest and he's doing such a great job here helping folks.
00:42:01.740 Yeah. And I'm saying that's the, so the New York Times has not exactly been honest through the
00:42:06.000 decades, but they're now in a death spiral. There's a reason President Trump calls them
00:42:09.880 the failing New York Times. They're dying. If they didn't have Wordly, nobody would even pick
00:42:14.380 up the paper. So it's, it's unbelievable that we're living at a moment where I think people
00:42:19.820 are waking up to this. They've had, they've had enough. We've had enough. We want to make America
00:42:23.260 great again. We want to celebrate what made us great in the first place. I mean, that's the only
00:42:28.020 reason I wrote my book. As I said, every American needs to know this. If you don't know this,
00:42:32.340 take some time this summer, get to know the beautiful stories of this country. This is
00:42:36.960 your story. And there's people around the world that would do anything to come to this glorious
00:42:41.120 country. So we need to know our story. This is the time. Eric, quickly, where do people go
00:42:47.220 to get the book, where they go to keep up with you on social media, particularly people want to
00:42:52.420 know they're bugging me, where the book signings, all this we had. We, of course, I'm doing great
00:42:56.620 Mark Meadows today committed going to a big event with you at CPI. So where do people go to get you?
00:43:02.120 I'm traveling all over the country. My event is, I mean, today, right now, I'm in Colorado Springs.
00:43:07.380 I'm flying to Idaho. I'm going to Southern California. Next week, I'll be in Washington
00:43:11.820 State. I'm going to get around. I'm getting all over the country. But you go to ericmetaxas.com.
00:43:17.520 My events, we're adding events. It's all there. I'm signing books wherever I go. I just signed
00:43:21.640 200 books here in Colorado Springs. And it's a joy to meet the people that love this country
00:43:26.800 and that are working to make this country better. I was with Victor Marks here in Colorado Springs.
00:43:32.340 He's running for governor. There's all kinds of people that are putting the shoulder to the wheel.
00:43:36.880 This is our moment.
00:43:38.160 And so you can find me just on my website, ericmataxas.com.
00:43:41.620 The book is theoretically available everywhere, even the places that don't want to carry it.
00:43:45.280 I hope they'll be forced to carry it now that we're number one and number two in all these rankings.
00:43:51.700 So praise God and God bless America.
00:43:55.040 Eric, you go punch out and get back to work.
00:43:57.900 We'll see you tomorrow.
00:43:58.880 Great.
00:43:59.500 Every day we're going to be hammering this.
00:44:00.960 This book is a historical moment, about the historical moment, the 250th commemoration of the anniversary of the foundation of the greatest republic in mankind's history, the greatest nation.
00:44:12.440 Tony Lyons is going to stick with us.
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00:46:36.460 Tony Lyons, brother, you got a little scar tissue from this business.
00:46:40.320 You've been in this business a while.
00:46:41.600 You used to be a fire-breathing nutcase of progressive liberal.
00:46:45.440 but we changed you. We got your mind right. You're now about as right-wing as you can get.
00:46:50.580 Of course, you've been ostracized from everything you ever knew. But this book,
00:46:54.680 because you and I have worked on, talked about this for a long time. We were so excited that
00:46:58.000 coming up for the country's 250th, we would have something special. You have gone out of your way
00:47:04.220 in working with Eric. I mean, the quality, the paper, the cover, the artwork, the binding,
00:47:10.720 the paper it's just it is you sit there and you go this is something i want to give to people to
00:47:15.480 share but metaxas delivered on the story it's exciting it's a page turner like i said people
00:47:22.520 know i love to read but a lot of times i read for information just flip it going through and
00:47:27.820 highlighting marking with my pen this i devoured because of the i knew the story not all of it
00:47:34.220 many things he has i didn't know but the quality of the writing and the power of the narrative
00:47:39.780 this morning you saw that on the show talk about that about the war and posse's piled into this
00:47:45.200 after after we had the interview another huge day on this book because people get it and this is
00:47:50.720 what the new york times can't fight they can't fight publishers weekly they can't fight they
00:47:55.680 can't fight amazon the whole world's looking at that they can't fight book scan it's going to
00:48:00.520 become obvious they've gun decked this to hold it back but we're we're a rising movement here and
00:48:06.360 we're a rising power, sir. Oh, yeah. I mean, this is obviously the book that the New York Times
00:48:13.140 doesn't want you to read, that the left wing media doesn't want you to read. They don't want
00:48:17.260 you to know the truth. They want to sell you fake news, fake science, fake bestsellers. So I say if
00:48:23.500 there's one book you read before July 4th, this should be the book. It's the ultimate book about
00:48:30.060 that celebrates all that is great about this country. And it's a book, like I said before,
00:48:36.080 You cannot put this book down once you've started reading it. And it's a book you'll remember for the rest of your life, and you'll be proud of your country when you're done. So, you know, let's look at what the War Room Posse did for this book. So the book sold 25,000 copies in the first week. About 12,000 of those copies came from the War Room Posse.
00:48:56.320 You guys, all of you out there, you went out and you bought this book and you fought back.
00:49:01.880 The other book, Jill Biden's book, it was stacked up in bookstores all around the country.
00:49:06.840 They were begging people to buy it.
00:49:08.860 They were paying people to buy it, I'm sure, but nobody wanted it.
00:49:13.400 That's the thing.
00:49:14.180 There were hundreds of thousands of copies out there, but people don't want to read that
00:49:18.540 kind of book by the wife of a failed president.
00:49:21.220 They want to read about the courage, the endurance, the bravery, the deep faith of Americans that made this incredible country.
00:49:31.840 So you see the outcome and you see the power that you guys have, that all of you people watching this show have.
00:49:38.400 So I say, you know, go out and buy this book, get it for your friends, share it, give it as gifts.
00:49:44.460 This is a book that will impact the rest of your life.
00:49:47.400 It's not just some piece of fake news like so many of the other books, like Jill Biden's book, Kamala Harris, and so many others.
00:49:55.840 So, you know, make sure that you don't allow them to control what you do, what you think, or what you read.
00:50:04.660 The culture institution you see this morning, even because we're now starting the second week, and the people in the war and posse powered into it today had a huge sale today, right, as we did the morning show.
00:50:15.260 So, Tony, social media, you're head of the Make America Healthy Again movement.
00:50:19.000 I'm going to have you back on to talk about it.
00:50:20.980 We want to talk about this amazing candidate out in Iowa.
00:50:24.180 A Maha candidate came from nowhere, a big win.
00:50:27.220 Where do people go for your social media, sir?
00:50:29.860 Yeah, so for the Maha movement, go to mahaaction.org.
00:50:34.240 For Skyhorse, go to skyhorsepublishing.com.
00:50:37.400 And for me personally, Tony Lyons is uncertain at Instagram.
00:50:43.160 Tony, thank you so much, sir.
00:50:44.580 appreciate you thank you neil mccabe uh the president said hey i'm working on a deal he's
00:50:52.060 getting ready to go to i don't know how he's going to go to the g7 but i guess we'll leave
00:50:55.400 that for tomorrow but tonight he's he basically has announced no bombing run sir
00:50:59.960 that's correct uh he's supposed to be at the g7 on monday uh the price the vice president got here
00:51:08.680 around one he just rolled out with his motorcade about three minutes ago and i just saw about five
00:51:14.180 or six other SUVs leave. The Marine Guard is not outside. So I'm assuming the president is not in
00:51:21.220 the Oval. He's somewhere else. He's got a call for Burt Jones in Georgia at 630. He's got another
00:51:26.900 call for Barry Moore in Alabama at seven. So we'll see what happens tonight. There are reports that
00:51:33.520 the Iranians and the Israelis weren't really sure what the president was talking about. And so that
00:51:38.660 has to be resolved, Steve. Maybe. Maybe that needs another bombing run. Neil, social media,
00:51:43.840 How do people get you overnight?
00:51:45.040 We'll see you tomorrow morning.
00:51:45.920 Where do people go?
00:51:48.640 You can find me on all the socials at reporter McCabe.
00:51:52.980 Neil McCabe, thank you so much.
00:51:54.480 Live from the White House.
00:51:56.220 I'm not going to be on Capitol Hill, Mark, because they've all gone home.
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00:52:04.460 Brother, hit me with the deal, sir.
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