00:16:51.600You understood it long before after a very successful career.
00:16:54.700in the finance world. You got this anger. How did Democrats co-opt it?
00:17:02.880Yeah. Well, first of all, I don't think they are going to successfully co-opt it. But I think that
00:17:06.960you make an important point here, which is that populism is not a fad, right? Populism is a
00:17:11.680systemic shift in the United States because the working class masses believe that they have been
00:17:17.240cheated. And I think understandably believe they've been cheated by a largely crooked system.
00:17:21.420So to me, it's either going to be populism of the left, which I view as ugly and even violent, or it's going to be the populism of the right, which is patriotic and tradition-loving.
00:17:32.340But the key here, I think, Leland, is the difference between prior eras of American history.
00:17:36.840Middle-class Americans did not resent the wealthy because they overwhelmingly believed that they at least had a shot to get there themselves.
00:17:44.340That belief is not widely shared now in today's society.
00:17:47.520You know you sound like Bernie Sanders, right?
00:17:50.160OK, well, but I don't sound like Bernie Sanders when I say one of the answers then, by the way, is to pause immigration, pause even legal immigration so that American workers make more money so that we raise the pay.
00:18:01.600So that is not Bernie Sanders like at all in that case.
00:18:05.620But the other aspect, Leland, is concurrent with this globalization has been an over financialization of our economy.
00:18:11.960And I say this as a guy who traded bonds for 25 years on Wall Street.
00:18:14.720But look, the titans of high finance and the titans of tech, and they're often deeply intertwined, have a concentration of wealth now that is simply unmatched in all of American history.0.99
00:18:25.900And on top of that, a lot of these elites, Leland, they're just garbage people, quite frankly.0.99
00:18:31.380They don't have any sense of altruism, any sense of responsibility to this country that has allowed them to become so fabulously successful.
00:18:38.140well. You know, if you look at the so-called robber barons, I think they were 10 times more
00:18:41.960altruistic and patriotic than any of the tech titans. You know, and Leland's one of the smarter
00:18:48.300of these hosts, and I really like him. But they've all fallen into that trap. Oh, you guys sound
00:18:56.860like Bernie. No, no, no, no. You have populism on the left, populism on the right. The populism
00:19:01.120is the right. Number one, we're capitalists. What we want to see is a system called capitalism.
00:19:06.460The problem we got now is we have a capitalist system with no capitalists.
00:19:09.940We have a bunch of oligarchs and the concentration of the lords of easy money into a handful of people and maybe another concentric ring around that.
00:19:17.500And Bernie, you're absolutely correct, Steve, about our sovereignty and our borders and in legal immigration, quote unquote, that scam and illegal immigration is the problem with the populace on the left.
00:19:28.260Like Mondami, these guys, they're really not populace.
00:19:30.400They're Marxist because they're globalists.
00:19:40.420The future of politics in this country and what's going to save this republic is populist nationalism.
00:19:45.560And I will tell you, the first couple of years since I met Cortez back in the early days, that first wave,
00:19:52.300our movement's probably been a little more populist than nationalistic.
00:19:55.520That's why I think people are now saying America first.
00:19:57.660I keep telling people, we're going to go, this is going to get much more nationalistic as we go forward.
00:20:03.480And I tell folks, hey, unless you meet the nationalist, you know, at least halfway or maybe even better, we're going to go to ultra-nationalism.
00:20:12.900I see it come as clearly as I saw populist nationalism after the 2008 crash, right?
00:20:19.260I see it now more than ever in something like yesterday's IPO, underwritten by Goldman Sachs, only makes me more so.
00:20:30.680Yeah. And Steve, listen, I don't think I was exaggerating there on Leland's show when I said that one of the unfortunate realities is that we have a garbage elite in this country right now.0.97
00:20:38.760Now, every society has elites, right? It's just it's human nature. It's inevitable.0.93
00:20:42.360But for most of American history, we generally had elites.
00:20:46.300We had ruling class people, power brokers in this country who generally cared about the people and felt that they had some obligation back to the country that allowed them to become so successful.
00:20:55.600We generally do not have that now. We have garbage elites who are not altruistic, who are not philanthropic, who are not patriotic in any sense.0.96
00:21:02.820They are pure takers, and they have increasingly constructed a system that works very well for them and their version of crony capitalism.0.98
00:21:10.780It's really not even capitalism at all, but their cronyist system. And you're exactly correct.
00:21:15.340But criticizing that doesn't make us Bernie Sanders, not by any stretch. We want Main Street entrepreneurial capitalism.
00:21:22.520We want small businesses to thrive across this country.
00:21:26.460We want distributivism, meaning we want the economic and political power of the country
00:21:30.700just as distributed as it can possibly be.
00:21:33.720It's a very Christian vision of humanity, of society.
00:31:23.580And she goes, he said, do you have any of these bio labs?
00:31:25.840And she goes, well, there may be some research facilities.
00:31:31.420So even then, she has to admit the truth of what's there.
00:31:35.120And Steve, let's remember, these are the same people, the same exact system, by the way, which was lied to about Wuhan, the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
00:31:49.500We knew about the Wuhan Institute. We knew about the ties to the Chinese military. We knew about the ties to Fauci to gain a function, to all of them. We don't need to re-litigate this. We've all seen it. We've all seen the liars. And I loved, by the way, I loved seeing all the people come after Tulsi. I loved seeing the freak out, the pathogen response by the neocon system.
00:32:09.480because, Steve, I've learned that it's not about what the people say.
00:32:13.940It's, you know, when they're coming out against you, putting out the truth.
00:39:10.040Look, I've lived almost my entire life paycheck to paycheck, and that's most people's experience in America.
00:39:16.220And so even if you agree with us on immigration, illegal immigration, the impact it has, the reality is your priorities are the things that put food on your table, that get those little league cleats for your kids to go play games.
00:39:33.620It's what gets your wife whatever that special thing is that she wants.
00:39:39.040It's the things that make your life continue to go.
00:39:44.220Now, obviously, illegal immigration has a direct impact on that. But when you're in a situation like when President Trump came in and we had the lowest gas prices that I can remember in, I mean, in the last 20 years in Arkansas, we were almost under $2. Actually, some places were under $2 a gallon. And then you go double that. That's all people feel. They don't remember back to Joe Biden was even higher than we are now. We can say that all we want. All they feel is it was really low and now it's higher.
00:40:13.460Everything I'm buying is a little more expensive.
00:41:48.560This is what we kind of lost focus on.0.82
00:41:50.640And part of that special deal is keeping out this whole scam on legal immigration, H1Bs, which is a scam, and the illegal immigration, as you see.0.63
00:41:58.540And the reason you're deployed, you would think, after all this time, why is Ben Burquam back at the border?
00:42:04.920You know, he should be in the middle of the Antifa raids and these mass deportation fights in Los Angeles and Minneapolis doing a great job.
00:42:12.400Well, guess what? That's all inextricably linked.
00:42:15.380Their full intention, and Burquam's warning the other day was one of the most powerful I've ever seen.
00:42:20.260It was quite simply if if we flinch and we lose political control as imperfect as has been, folks, I understand it has not has been far from perfect.
00:42:31.440If we lose control of that, there's another 20 million.
00:42:34.400They're going to get in here in a couple of years.1.00
00:42:36.260Then the country is definitely gone.0.75
00:42:38.240You're going to have, you know, Bovina right now says there's 100 million.0.99
00:42:40.580There's another six million of these legal, you know, immigrants here are legal migrants that are, you know, supposedly legal immigrants here, which are also a scam.1.00
00:42:51.660But you had another 20 million and then you're just showing, hey, we can't even handle it.1.00
00:42:55.380We don't have the political will to enforce our sovereignty, the sovereignty of our borders, the sovereignty for a nation and the sovereignty for our citizens.
00:43:05.460Yeah, I mean, we're functionally bankrupt as a nation right now.
00:43:08.700And you're talking about adding more looters to the system to quote one of my favorite books, Atlas Shrugged.
00:43:15.240If you haven't read that, I don't like what she says about I don't agree with her on what she says about religion, but on economics and populism.
00:43:21.800She's 100 percent right. And that was you know, that's where we're at right now.
00:43:24.440We're living with the looters. Hang on. Hang on. Let's go to break.
00:43:29.220I had Ben Burkwam on a roll, and he's got to go full, on-ran, libertarian, you know,
00:43:35.520with one of the books I hate more than any book in the world, Atlas Shrugged.
00:46:21.560Okay, I'm not going to take up too much time on Saturday, but Ben Burke, while I'm just hitting my trip, we're going to actually announce big news with Ben, because Ben is one of the great stalwarts of our movement.
00:46:32.820There's very few books I hate more than Atlas Shrugged, and I think it's a quite dangerous book.
00:46:38.460When I first got to D.C. in kind of the imperial capital with Andrew Breitbart back in the summer
00:46:45.160of 2011, when we took the Breitbart embassy and Andrew kind of came back almost 50% of
00:46:51.700his time, the Paul Ryan was like the man.
00:46:54.480And Paul Ryan had every junior grand dune that worked for him or everybody on the staff,
00:49:26.360And it's pretty incredible. So when you go from the lowest of lows in the pits of hell to a life again, and you see every day is a blessing, and every day is a gift that you get to spend, you realize what you want to spend it on.
00:49:43.200And so that's what I've spent my last 10 years doing is trying to make an impact.
00:49:47.100No, and Ben, you were a mess. You were quite frankly, and it shows you when God's not in your life, when Jesus Christ is not in your heart, how low a human can go. But when you embrace that, the turnaround you can have, sir.
00:50:04.940yeah and and you know what's amazing too is you gotta buy the book to read all this but um is
00:50:11.980the the variables don't change it's how you approach them how you deal with them that's
00:50:18.320what changes and how god working through you deal uh and so it's going to be incredible i mean it's
00:50:22.800got all the stories from the last 10 years the coolest part about it is uh you've got the videos
00:50:26.880to go along with it so it's not just me talking about these stories it's you you get to go to
00:50:31.160the jungles of Panama and be in a shootout and, and then go back to the, you know, where it all
00:50:35.440began and then, you know, and then back through it all. And so, uh, I'm, I'm just, I'm honored to
00:50:40.200have an impact. I'm honored to, obviously, uh, there's actually an entire chapter in there about
00:50:44.340my relationship with Steve and the grainy photo I took with you, uh, when I met you at the
00:50:49.500Republican convention out in Anaheim, gosh, uh, eight years ago to where we are today. And, and,
00:50:55.860And how, no matter how lost you think you might be, how God has a purpose for your life, if you choose to accept it and how you go through that and how you deal with these different situations.
00:51:06.840So my prayer is that it's powerful, especially for young men, but just young people in general and really all people that are dealing with similar, you know, not necessarily addiction, but we all have stresses and fears and anxiety in our life and things we have to deal with.
00:51:21.560Um, and I, I pray that it, it has a major impact on people's lives.
00:51:25.500Um, but it is, it's an absolute honor.
00:51:27.560And the fact that my first book is coming through war room, uh, is, uh, is a great honor.