Bannon's War Room - June 13, 2026


Episode 5442: Stranded Behind The Border; Where We Are With Hispanic Voters


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00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:00:07.000 Pray for our enemies.
00:00:09.000 Because we're going medieval on these people.
00:00:12.000 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:00:17.000 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:00:19.000 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:00:20.000 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,
00:00:22.000 but you're not going to stop it.
00:00:23.000 It's going to happen.
00:00:24.000 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:00:27.000 MAGA Media.
00:00:29.000 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:34.600 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:38.360 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:44.680 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.
00:00:52.840 It's Saturday, 13 June in the year of our Lord, 2026.
00:00:58.100 We are going to be everywhere this morning.
00:01:01.340 We're going to be somewhere.
00:01:02.240 We're actually going to open in El Paso, Texas,
00:01:04.820 with Ben Burquam at the wall, the one that we built back in 2019
00:01:09.100 over Memorial Day.
00:01:11.260 Actually, the best mile of wall, I guess, three-quarters of a mile ever built.
00:01:16.240 We were going to be there with Ben, bright-eyed and bushy-tailed,
00:01:18.660 but we're not.
00:01:20.340 We got Ben Burquam, but Ben went on a night patrol last night.
00:01:24.320 Ben Burkwam join us and a packed Saturday morning here in the war room brother we want to start up
00:01:32.000 on on the top of that ridge right below what is it Mount Cristo right right right right below where
00:01:37.100 the flags are the flagpoles that beautiful kind of platform that Brian Colfage and the team built
00:01:43.220 looking out over Juarez and beautiful El Paso talking Sicario uh you said that that was a five
00:01:50.560 in fact we got you on early last night that'd be nice that was the plan that was the plan on
00:01:55.780 that was the plan you we got you on early in the show yesterday so you could continue the five-hour
00:02:00.740 drive from from Big Bend Texas to uh to El Paso so we could open the show with that
00:02:07.360 but we're not there where are we opening the show this morning and and and what happened
00:02:11.600 last night on your night patrol yeah that that turned into 13 hours of fun uh so I'm in no man's
00:02:18.280 land texas uh i'm in my truck right now slept in the truck uh there's this part i'm about 30 feet
00:02:25.780 away from the the border i could throw a rock into the border but i'll just kind of show you
00:02:30.700 uh just a little little like set the scene these are my these are my boots these are my my shoes
00:02:36.340 to give you an idea of what i was dealing with so i came down here because this is a stretch
00:02:41.020 uh we call it no man's land uh it's basically very few law enforcement very few border patrol
00:02:48.400 it's it's pretty much just rugged dirt road uh that turns to really nasty clay mud this time of
00:02:54.760 year sometimes and unfortunately i got stuck in it i was out here um across several illegal alien
00:03:01.860 trails actually on the way out here as i left town on this gravel road let me just get out of
00:03:06.120 the truck by the way thank god you're going to spend a night on the border you got to have your
00:03:12.320 my pillow hold it hold it promo code we're actually going to promo code it's not promo
00:03:18.740 code frontline promo code war room because you can continue on mike lindell would love it a
00:03:23.980 marketing pitch yes that might that might that might that might my pellet comes in handy doesn't
00:03:30.080 it it does man it does it's a lifesaver uh by the way don't drink this gatorade i'm just telling
00:03:35.400 that right now um the uh you gotta have your patriot mobile hat too and your patriot mobile
00:03:39.940 phone all right so let me get out of here whoa so this is where i'm at currently holy hang on
00:03:48.660 hang on hold it pull it oh my lord so i tried i just just give you an idea of uh and i don't
00:03:57.320 want to stay out here too long because the mosquitoes are i've got like a thousand bites
00:04:01.020 on me. But, um, so I got, I'm about, I don't know, six feet away from getting up to a place
00:04:06.940 where I could get out. But the problem is this goes on for another half mile. I didn't learn
00:04:11.380 until afterwards when I started doing some recon that there's actually a bypass road around here,
00:04:16.900 but it says private property, keep out. I learned that that's, uh, that only the locals know that
00:04:23.220 you use that road when this happens. So I got to, I got to here, I have a four wheel drive.
00:04:28.120 I grew up in the country I you know I know how to deal with these situations I came in over here
00:04:34.500 you can kind of see down that way and I got I was pushing it you got to come in fast I got up to
00:04:40.560 about here and I was just I mean literally a couple feet from popping out and that's it and
00:04:45.840 I spent about four hours so I started with no shovel I hiked about two miles around found these
00:04:53.260 some of the wood the two by fours and stuff to shim under the the wheels hoping that that would
00:04:58.060 loosen it up a bit uh that didn't do it so then I ended up walking about four miles back to a
00:05:03.320 little village found a guy named Juan and I I borrowed a shovel from him and I spent the next
00:05:10.800 couple hours digging in the clay that didn't work so now I've got another guy with a four-wheel 1.00
00:05:17.860 drive that's going to be coming down with his son in a couple hours so but that's Mexico that
00:05:23.020 rock right there that's mexico right there so this is anyways that that was my night but ben hang on
00:05:29.840 i want to make sure people understand this this is one of the reasons ben's going to be deployed
00:05:34.580 back to the border for a while because it's never over i mean as strong as president trump has come
00:05:40.300 in here and building the wall and we've got you know it's down to nothing they're they're they
00:05:45.980 are gathering on the northern border of mexico and at the first inkling that the american government
00:05:52.040 is. Ben, you can jump back in. Jump back in the car. I don't want you to get eaten alive by
00:05:56.080 mosquitoes. What that shows is, listen, the people that want to come here want to come here.
00:06:08.300 Right there, that is no man's land. It's one of the reasons we don't have border patrol. It's one
00:06:11.800 of the reasons we don't have wall built down there in that sector. But those people will risk
00:06:18.760 that to come through there my point is that the the gravitational pull of american jobs in the
00:06:24.800 american lifestyle and of course uh all the all the freebies the government will still give them
00:06:29.880 is is a huge gravitational pull and and people will you know think about if you didn't even have
00:06:36.160 the truck just having to do that on foot where the coyotes oftentimes will just cut you loose and say
00:06:40.720 hey there's a village four miles down the road i hope you find it right 50 they'll go they'll go
00:06:47.580 these guys will go 50 miles so what i'm i mean i i actually felt the lord tell me that last night
00:06:52.680 just say you know thank be thankful for what you got uh i i got a truck that's got plenty of gas
00:06:58.800 that had ac in it all night i got plenty of water what the illegals are doing is that so that's a
00:07:04.640 that mountain is in mexico right there they'll come over that mountain and then they'll go up
00:07:10.500 stuff like this for 50 miles and they'll be sleeping i you know i got to get in my truck i
00:07:16.580 had to kill about 100 mosquitoes when i got my truck but i i got to sleep they'll be sleeping
00:07:22.720 out here in the scorpions and everything else the coyotes don't care at all about them now granted
00:07:28.880 they're coming in illegally uh they shouldn't be here but it is to like to see what they go through
00:07:34.980 and you think about who's who are the people that are going to be coming this way like who would
00:07:40.260 who would put themselves in that situation and i mean clearly the answer is someone who's
00:07:44.480 incredibly desperate either you know desperate to get out of where they're at or desperate because
00:07:50.100 they know if they get caught uh they've got bad intentions for this country or they've
00:07:54.020 been deported many times before we we've never we've never we've never demonized these people 0.61
00:08:00.060 that do it it's the people that the cartels that make it happen the mexican government
00:08:03.660 the biden administration that opened the door and said come on in ngo ngo's are the worst
00:08:09.520 the people are making bank off of this they're making money jump uh ben jump back in your truck
00:08:15.260 i'm gonna go to cortez i'm gonna talk about some polling so cortez uh it's i this actually worked
00:08:21.120 out perfectly you've actually done some some um and you spent so much time down the rear grand
00:08:26.840 valley and you were one of the first ones you talked about this years ago when we sat there
00:08:30.140 and go hey because i'd spent time down there we launched bright bar texas years ago that these
00:08:34.980 folks are hard-working hispanic american citizens and they are they're the ones at the front line
00:08:41.180 getting crushed by the illegal aliens coming coming across and we're seeing it building up
00:08:46.020 again and that's what i keep telling you as great a job as president trump has done the apparatus
00:08:51.120 the system itself wants the illegal aliens and you can see from what the system did with not
00:08:57.180 taking the Pulte as DNI and getting rid of Tulsi Gabbard and confirming Jay Clayton in five days.
00:09:08.780 When the system wants something, the system's going to get it. Tell me what, you've been doing
00:09:13.020 some polling of these Hispanic Americans, and because everybody's running around, you can't
00:09:17.600 mass deportation, you can't do this because the Hispanic Americans in the country hate it,
00:09:21.940 and they flipped on Trump. Your thoughts, sir? Yes. So listen, I just did a national poll
00:09:26.400 of Hispanics. I believe it's very revealing, and I think it's mostly good news. It's not all good 1.00
00:09:31.760 news. Hispanics are upset with Trump. They're upset with the Republican Party. They're upset
00:09:36.060 with the economy right now. But the really good news is they agree with the immigration agenda of 1.00
00:09:41.820 America first. And what we're showing right there, I think, is the key question that I ask. This is
00:09:46.180 a national survey of Hispanics. And again, I'm not stacking the deck here. This was not overall
00:09:52.260 a pro-Trump, pro-Republican poll. However, when we say what concerns you more, high prices and
00:09:58.680 the cost of living or ICE and immigration enforcement, as you can see right there,
00:10:03.120 73% to only 19%. So fewer than one in five Hispanics in our poll say that what concerns
00:10:11.060 them more is ICE and immigration enforcement. Instead, we get almost two-thirds, excuse me,
00:10:17.120 almost three-quarters of Hispanics telling us that what concerns them are high prices. Hispanics 0.51
00:10:22.180 Steve overwhelmingly statistically are working class people. That's just who they are,
00:10:26.960 who we are demographically in this country. So inflation disproportionately harms Hispanic
00:10:32.320 Americans. They are angry about it. And immigration is just not high on their priority list. Now,
00:10:38.060 if you listen to D.C. Republicans, if you listen to the so-called experts, to the establishment
00:10:42.180 Republicans, they're all telling us, no, we're losing Hispanics because of immigration. My poll
00:10:46.720 shows by the numbers, by the data, that that just is not true. It's the economy that they're mad
00:10:52.460 about. And again, they are irritated, but it's not because of immigration. And by the way, Steve,
00:10:56.720 as you well know, these two issues are inextricably linked. How do we best get,
00:11:00.860 how do we in the quickest form get to higher pay for working class Americans, including a lot of
00:11:05.760 Latinos? It's immigration enforcement, right? It's making sure that illegals are not coming in. 0.96
00:11:10.480 They're not competing in the labor market against American citizens. And even more than that, 0.80
00:11:14.040 I believe. It's also getting rid of legal American foreigners who are working in this country, 1.00
00:11:19.320 legal immigrants coming to this country on work visas. The more we restrict that flow, 0.96
00:11:23.780 the better life is going to be for all American citizens, including a lot of Latinos. 1.00
00:11:29.240 You know, and the double whammy that's coming, and this is the case we've got to make to the
00:11:33.860 Hispanics and to Latinos, is that what the Democrats taking back over, now you're going
00:11:39.460 to get the out of control spending. Spending is bad enough right now, but the out of control
00:11:43.020 spending that fuels inflation also supply chain problems uh supply side problems because they're
00:11:48.660 not supply side in any type of tax tax cuts or incentives and they're not interested in bringing
00:11:52.800 manufacturing jobs back plus they're all set to open the borders again this is the people have
00:11:57.940 to understand you know at louis the 14th said this uh after me the deluge after trump the deluge
00:12:03.820 they understand president trump is a guy with his finger in the dike but the entire system is trying
00:12:09.280 to work, not just to destroy Trump, but this is one of their number one priorities. They want to
00:12:14.300 go back to open borders and back to flooding the zone because it's bigger consumer markets,
00:12:19.100 right? More consumers here to spend. And also they drive wages down. Steve Cortez.
00:12:26.340 Yeah, you're exactly right. And look, this is capital. What does capital really want? It wants
00:12:30.240 cheap labor, right? That's what capital wants in this country. And for too long, 0.98
00:12:34.180 our country, our culture, our politics, our economy have been dominated by the demands of
00:12:40.000 capital from the very highest levels. And the oligarchs want a continual flow of cheap labor
00:12:44.980 into this country. But that has been miserable. It has eviscerated the middle class of this
00:12:49.460 country, which includes a lot of hardworking Hispanic citizens. And again, what they tell us 0.98
00:12:54.240 in this poll, I mean, let's listen to them. Let's actually ask the questions in a scientific way,
00:12:58.460 which I did. And let's listen to them. What are they angry about? And again, they're angry right
00:13:03.180 now. Okay, that's reality. We have to face reality. Reality is they're angry. They're angry
00:13:07.240 about the economy and specifically about prices. They're not angry about immigration enforcement.
00:13:13.200 As a matter of fact, they fully, in my poll, by the way, when I describe the Trump immigration
00:13:18.180 policy, which is offering incentives to illegal immigrants, and if they don't take those generous
00:13:22.980 incentives, the American people are being very generous with the legals. When they don't take
00:13:26.680 those generous incentives that they then get removed, overwhelming Hispanic support, overwhelming
00:13:31.160 for that policy when it's properly described to them.
00:13:34.420 That's another problem, by the way.
00:13:35.340 A lot of Hispanics don't even know that that is actually a U.S. policy. 0.75
00:13:38.280 Because if you're a legal citizen of this country, Steve,
00:13:40.220 if you're a legal Hispanic citizen in the United States, guess what?
00:13:43.480 You don't obsess over immigration.
00:13:45.300 You just don't.
00:13:46.080 They do in New York newsrooms, okay?
00:13:47.700 They do in a lot of the salons of Georgetown where Republican big shots
00:13:51.720 try to tell us, oh, this is our problem with Latinos.
00:13:53.820 When you actually go and meet Latinos in places like the Rio Grande Valley, 0.61
00:13:57.220 you figure out that, number one, they don't like illegal immigration 0.98
00:13:59.640 if they're thinking about immigration at all.
00:14:02.000 But for most citizens, again, this is just not top of mind.
00:14:05.160 Whether they're brown, black, or purple,
00:14:07.240 immigration isn't top of mind. 0.99
00:14:08.500 It's prices. 1.00
00:14:09.400 That's what's bothering Hispanics right now. 1.00
00:14:11.520 So let's take care of the economy. 1.00
00:14:13.040 Let's get back to growing real wages,
00:14:14.840 which was happening pre-war.
00:14:16.200 Let's get back to that trajectory 0.99
00:14:17.380 for bad hombres and proud Latinas out there. 0.97
00:14:20.300 And we are going to re-earn their support.
00:14:21.920 We got it in record number, record fashion in 2024.
00:14:25.640 We can do it again, but it takes a good economy to do it.
00:14:28.260 Steve, hang on. We're holding you to the next block. Ben Burkham's on the border.
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00:16:43.780 Former Trump advisor Steve Cortez is with us.
00:16:46.620 Steve, you tapped into this populist movement in 2016.
00:16:50.860 You were there.
00:16:51.600 You understood it long before after a very successful career.
00:16:54.700 in the finance world. You got this anger. How did Democrats co-opt it?
00:17:02.880 Yeah. Well, first of all, I don't think they are going to successfully co-opt it. But I think that
00:17:06.960 you make an important point here, which is that populism is not a fad, right? Populism is a
00:17:11.680 systemic shift in the United States because the working class masses believe that they have been
00:17:17.240 cheated. And I think understandably believe they've been cheated by a largely crooked system.
00:17:21.420 So to me, it's either going to be populism of the left, which I view as ugly and even violent, or it's going to be the populism of the right, which is patriotic and tradition-loving.
00:17:32.340 But the key here, I think, Leland, is the difference between prior eras of American history.
00:17:36.840 Middle-class Americans did not resent the wealthy because they overwhelmingly believed that they at least had a shot to get there themselves.
00:17:44.340 That belief is not widely shared now in today's society.
00:17:47.520 You know you sound like Bernie Sanders, right?
00:17:50.160 OK, well, but I don't sound like Bernie Sanders when I say one of the answers then, by the way, is to pause immigration, pause even legal immigration so that American workers make more money so that we raise the pay.
00:18:01.600 So that is not Bernie Sanders like at all in that case.
00:18:05.620 But the other aspect, Leland, is concurrent with this globalization has been an over financialization of our economy.
00:18:11.960 And I say this as a guy who traded bonds for 25 years on Wall Street.
00:18:14.720 But look, the titans of high finance and the titans of tech, and they're often deeply intertwined, have a concentration of wealth now that is simply unmatched in all of American history. 0.99
00:18:25.900 And on top of that, a lot of these elites, Leland, they're just garbage people, quite frankly. 0.99
00:18:30.440 They're not patriots. 0.99
00:18:31.380 They don't have any sense of altruism, any sense of responsibility to this country that has allowed them to become so fabulously successful.
00:18:38.140 well. You know, if you look at the so-called robber barons, I think they were 10 times more
00:18:41.960 altruistic and patriotic than any of the tech titans. You know, and Leland's one of the smarter
00:18:48.300 of these hosts, and I really like him. But they've all fallen into that trap. Oh, you guys sound
00:18:56.860 like Bernie. No, no, no, no. You have populism on the left, populism on the right. The populism
00:19:01.120 is the right. Number one, we're capitalists. What we want to see is a system called capitalism.
00:19:06.460 The problem we got now is we have a capitalist system with no capitalists.
00:19:09.940 We have a bunch of oligarchs and the concentration of the lords of easy money into a handful of people and maybe another concentric ring around that.
00:19:17.500 And Bernie, you're absolutely correct, Steve, about our sovereignty and our borders and in legal immigration, quote unquote, that scam and illegal immigration is the problem with the populace on the left.
00:19:28.260 Like Mondami, these guys, they're really not populace.
00:19:30.400 They're Marxist because they're globalists.
00:19:32.160 They want open borders.
00:19:33.360 They don't believe in the country.
00:19:35.200 So when people say, oh, you guys are just like Bernie Sanders.
00:19:37.760 No, no, no, no, no.
00:19:38.500 It's a massive difference.
00:19:40.420 The future of politics in this country and what's going to save this republic is populist nationalism.
00:19:45.560 And I will tell you, the first couple of years since I met Cortez back in the early days, that first wave,
00:19:52.300 our movement's probably been a little more populist than nationalistic.
00:19:55.520 That's why I think people are now saying America first.
00:19:57.660 I keep telling people, we're going to go, this is going to get much more nationalistic as we go forward.
00:20:03.480 And I tell folks, hey, unless you meet the nationalist, you know, at least halfway or maybe even better, we're going to go to ultra-nationalism.
00:20:12.900 I see it come as clearly as I saw populist nationalism after the 2008 crash, right?
00:20:19.260 I see it now more than ever in something like yesterday's IPO, underwritten by Goldman Sachs, only makes me more so.
00:20:28.180 Your thoughts, Steve Cortez?
00:20:30.680 Yeah. And Steve, listen, I don't think I was exaggerating there on Leland's show when I said that one of the unfortunate realities is that we have a garbage elite in this country right now. 0.97
00:20:38.760 Now, every society has elites, right? It's just it's human nature. It's inevitable. 0.93
00:20:42.360 But for most of American history, we generally had elites.
00:20:46.300 We had ruling class people, power brokers in this country who generally cared about the people and felt that they had some obligation back to the country that allowed them to become so successful.
00:20:55.600 We generally do not have that now. We have garbage elites who are not altruistic, who are not philanthropic, who are not patriotic in any sense. 0.96
00:21:02.820 They are pure takers, and they have increasingly constructed a system that works very well for them and their version of crony capitalism. 0.98
00:21:10.780 It's really not even capitalism at all, but their cronyist system. And you're exactly correct.
00:21:15.340 But criticizing that doesn't make us Bernie Sanders, not by any stretch. We want Main Street entrepreneurial capitalism.
00:21:22.520 We want small businesses to thrive across this country.
00:21:26.460 We want distributivism, meaning we want the economic and political power of the country
00:21:30.700 just as distributed as it can possibly be.
00:21:33.720 It's a very Christian vision of humanity, of society.
00:21:37.260 That's what we want.
00:21:38.200 That's what we're striving for in terms of our goals.
00:21:40.840 And we're going to get there.
00:21:42.520 In subsidiarity, where the power and the decisions are made at the lowest level you possibly
00:21:47.120 can make them.
00:21:48.620 It's very simple.
00:21:49.780 A piece of the action.
00:21:50.620 every man a capitalist every man and woman a capitalist everybody's got a everybody's got a
00:21:54.800 piece of it if you have a piece of it in a capitalist system we're going to thrive you
00:21:59.460 talk about garbage elites and elites we've had and this is one of the things i hope we're learning
00:22:04.620 in the book revolution and as we celebrate and commemorate in the war room way uh the 250th is
00:22:10.900 that one i think the fundamental difference when you get about philosophy or the fundamental
00:22:16.580 difference in the American and French Revolution that happened at almost the exact same time
00:22:21.580 was that we had elites that in the revolutionary generation that had a concept of the republic
00:22:28.460 and were inextricably linked with the patriots. Remember, we just started with like a third,
00:22:33.940 with the patriots that actually stepped up and fought because people, the way we teach it today,
00:22:40.140 everybody thinks July 4th and the huge celebration is because we were just an independent nation. No,
00:22:45.560 that was a declaration of war that was the inciting incident you know politically that
00:22:51.240 started a long seven eight year uh revolutionary war that we had to win on the battlefield and as
00:22:56.580 i keep saying it wasn't really won until the battle of norleans it was really the british
00:23:01.180 essentially backed off after andrew jackson those guys on january 2nd of 1815 destroyed
00:23:08.580 wellington's part of wellington's army he sent here to the united states to put this thing down
00:23:12.840 because the british still thought it was theirs they thought they boxed us up on the on the on
00:23:17.040 the eastern seaboard with that treaty of paris and they were going to take it back we had to fight
00:23:21.800 for it it was a long 20 or 30 year struggle to fight for but the elites were on the battlefield
00:23:26.680 the elites were leading us in the french revolution what it evolved to in the aristocracy was wait for 0.98
00:23:32.600 it a garbage elite a garbage elite and that is what happens and hey i tell you if we continue 0.99
00:23:38.720 to defer to the to the oligarchs and to the garbage elite in this country it ends in revolution this 1.00
00:23:44.580 is why i go give these talks i tell these all the fat cats i say hey look it's very simple 0.98
00:23:48.240 you're going to have our revolution on one hand the populist nationalists right that the little
00:23:53.360 guy becomes part of the system becomes a part of capitalists are you going to have manjoni
00:23:57.920 manjioni and uh and and zorhan mandami on the other you're going to have marxist jihadist or
00:24:03.780 you're going to have guys shooting people in the back, you know, and laying in wait. Sir, 0.88
00:24:09.840 your thoughts? Yes. Yeah, 100%. Look, populism of the left, when you take it to its logical
00:24:15.260 conclusion, or if we want to call it populism, but the rising movement on the left, it must
00:24:19.800 inevitably lead to violence. And it does increasingly so, right? We're seeing that more
00:24:23.940 and more. So it is ugly. It is violent. It is not patriotic. It's certainly not Christian.
00:24:28.460 The populism of the right that we're talking about is patriotic, is pro-family, is pro-tradition. 0.92
00:24:33.780 is pro-God, loves this country, wants to see the broadest level of success across this country,
00:24:40.280 you know, not through government taking and not through central power, right, but through
00:24:44.020 incentivizing main streets and small towns and every small business in America to absolutely
00:24:49.060 flourish. That is our vision. And you're exactly correct, Steve, to a lot of the big shots,
00:24:53.420 many of whom watch your show, right, our message to them is you may not love MAGA, you may not love
00:24:58.620 all the precepts of America First, but believe me, our alternative is far better for the country,
00:25:03.400 far better even for you than where you will end up with the left because it is a bullet to the 0.99
00:25:08.340 back of the head. That's where you end up with the populism of the left. So we are trying to save 0.68
00:25:12.860 this country and some of the elites need to come to terms with that and realize that while they
00:25:17.780 may not love our movement, they need to embrace it. It's a little shaggy sometimes, got a few
00:25:23.920 rough edges on it, maybe shambolic on occasions, but hey, it is the future. Steve, I know you got
00:25:29.120 tell us what you're doing today and where can we go get the poll? I don't think you put the
00:25:32.820 poll until monday or tuesday where you get all your your content and what are you doing today
00:25:37.660 yes uh so the poll exclusively released by daily signal which gets most of my polling now i'm in
00:25:43.320 lacrosse wisconsin a wonderful part of this country and a catholic vote is having an america 250
00:25:49.600 celebration here it's going to be fantastic a lot of big speakers i am the mc for this event we got
00:25:54.540 to go to mass yesterday at the shrine of guadalupe believe it or not a lot of hispanics here way up
00:25:59.140 north in the U.S. Shrine of Guadalupe is a wonderful spot in La Crosse, Wisconsin. So we
00:26:03.720 are celebrating our faith and celebrating this amazing country that we're so blessed to live in
00:26:08.400 and this country that we're saving, Steve. Go with God. Steve Cortez, appreciate you. Thank you for
00:26:13.640 changing your schedule. Come on this morning. Thank you. Have a great, great, great day with
00:26:18.380 the Catholic Vote guys. Jack Posobiec joins me. Jack, thank you for stepping away from a family
00:26:23.660 event join us by phone uh after we had you had it on uh you had it on human events daily uh then we
00:26:30.820 got into it uh with uh tulsi gabbard the great tulsi gabbard coming out with the bio labs
00:26:35.900 in the lives of victoria newland and all of them she got lit up last night online
00:26:41.720 by people that say that she's just a russian asset your thoughts sir
00:26:46.060 well steve let's remember that these were all the same people that said donald
00:26:53.420 Trump is a Russian asset. These are the people that said that the 2020 election was the safest
00:26:58.460 and securest election in history. And these are the people who suggested that it would be better
00:27:04.120 for us to get into all these wars all around, whether it's Ukraine, whether it's Iran, regime
00:27:09.480 change, all the rest of it, Steve. This is the neocon pathogen response, because what Tulsi
00:27:16.020 Gabbard is doing, she just sent a heat-seeking missile directly into the heart of the neocon 0.67
00:27:22.300 industrial complex. Jack, I tell you what, we got to jump to a commercial break. I want to come
00:27:29.120 back to you. I know you're out with the children today. We're going to come back to you and
00:27:32.560 reconnect right after a short commercial break. Jack Basovic's on. Tulsi Gabbard getting ready to
00:27:38.040 leave D&I. She dropped a bomb yesterday about the biolabs, 140 biolabs, I think, throughout the 1.00
00:27:44.680 world, financed by the U.S. government, controlled by the U.S. government, and working on some of
00:27:49.380 deadliest things in the world plus i think there were 40 in ukraine and they're going nuts last
00:27:56.260 night she's a russian asset because this was putin's uh reason for invading it wasn't the
00:28:02.980 buyer labs but guess what they existed there's liz churchill's great tweet she put out yesterday
00:28:09.780 just go through it there's so much more we'll connect you to tulsi gabbard was given the receipts
00:28:15.860 and the neocons in this country can't stand it.
00:28:19.680 They hate Tulsi Gabbard. 1.00
00:28:20.740 They wanted to turf her out 1.00
00:28:22.260 because of the great intelligence she managed 0.99
00:28:25.900 that would have kept us out of this debacle in Iran.
00:28:30.060 Short commercial break.
00:28:31.020 Jack Posobiec on the other side.
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00:30:27.220 outright lies like this which is the suggestion that the united states has a chemical and 0.69
00:30:32.340 biological weapons program or ukraine does that they're operating russia is the one is the country
00:30:38.280 that has a chemical and biological weapons program so uh the objective uh was to uh make clear uh the
00:30:46.920 inaccuracy of the information the misinformation they're trying to put out uh and make clear to 0.98
00:30:52.620 Okay, right there's Saki.
00:30:54.580 I'm going to play Tulsi in a minute.
00:30:55.740 Jack Posobiec, you heard it right there, brother.
00:30:58.340 That was the very day that it happened.
00:31:01.540 That was the very day that Victoria Nuland perjured herself
00:31:05.200 in front of Marco Rubio, sir.
00:31:08.160 Well, Steve, remember what Vicky Nuland did, right?
00:31:11.260 When Rubio asked the question,
00:31:13.020 I don't think Rubio was even trying to do it.
00:31:14.900 Gotcha.
00:31:15.260 I think he thought it was a softball,
00:31:17.200 you know, like a layup kind of thing,
00:31:18.660 so we could knock it down.
00:31:19.980 And he knew it is what I mean.
00:31:23.580 And she goes, he said, do you have any of these bio labs?
00:31:25.840 And she goes, well, there may be some research facilities.
00:31:31.420 So even then, she has to admit the truth of what's there.
00:31:35.120 And Steve, let's remember, these are the same people, the same exact system, by the way, which was lied to about Wuhan, the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
00:31:44.900 And so we know this game.
00:31:46.760 We've seen this game.
00:31:48.020 We knew about it, number one.
00:31:49.500 We knew about the Wuhan Institute. We knew about the ties to the Chinese military. We knew about the ties to Fauci to gain a function, to all of them. We don't need to re-litigate this. We've all seen it. We've all seen the liars. And I loved, by the way, I loved seeing all the people come after Tulsi. I loved seeing the freak out, the pathogen response by the neocon system.
00:32:09.480 because, Steve, I've learned that it's not about what the people say.
00:32:13.940 It's, you know, when they're coming out against you, putting out the truth.
00:32:17.100 It's about who is saying it.
00:32:19.120 Understand the grouping because that's how you can see the network.
00:32:22.500 You can map the network.
00:32:23.660 You can map the system that's been triggered,
00:32:27.020 the system that's been alerted to come after you.
00:32:29.300 And that is how we can update our mental model of who is on the side of the American people,
00:32:34.640 who's on the side of the Lao Bai Jing, who's on the side of freedom and democracy.
00:32:38.640 And as you mentioned before, the populist right who actually cares about our countries
00:32:42.520 and who is on the side of the special interests and the foreign interests.
00:32:46.920 Well, the nationalists, also the populist nationalist right.
00:32:50.520 And who's really rooting for the foreign entities and powers trying to control this country?
00:32:57.540 One of the things they're trying to do, Jack, I want your comments for you. 0.98
00:32:59.860 I'll let you bounce back to the game. 1.00
00:33:01.160 is they're trying to also use this to scuff up Tulsi
00:33:07.120 because they understand that the investigation and commission,
00:33:11.460 we're going to put out all the information and intelligence
00:33:14.340 on how we got in this war.
00:33:15.400 President Trump's trying to bring this war to the conclusion,
00:33:17.580 working nonstop.
00:33:18.920 You know, you got term sheets, you got MOUs, you got all this.
00:33:21.380 President Trump's trying to juggle it all with the military
00:33:23.860 to bring this thing to the conclusion.
00:33:25.660 And I keep saying we're in it now and that's going to be a focus.
00:33:28.380 But there's going to come a moment,
00:33:29.840 And that moment is not too far, not too far distance in the future.
00:33:33.020 We're going to go back.
00:33:34.460 We're going to go back to the spring and summer of 2025.
00:33:38.840 And we're going to go back to Charlie Kirk's heroic stand on this.
00:33:42.880 We're going to go back to get the receipts themselves, the receipts of what the CIA said
00:33:48.460 and the receipts of what Tulsi Gabbard and DNI said.
00:33:51.860 And I don't care who doesn't like it.
00:33:53.580 OK, what they're trying to do is, oh, she's a Russian asset. 1.00
00:33:56.300 That's crap. 0.99
00:33:57.580 This woman's a patient colonel right now in the military. 1.00
00:34:00.100 She served overseas.
00:34:01.080 She served her country, which I noticed most of her detractors did not.
00:34:06.040 Jack Posobiec, your thoughts about that?
00:34:07.520 Because this is really why they're coming after her.
00:34:09.500 They're coming after her because they understand she understands she's got the receipts on
00:34:15.180 how we got into this debacle, sir.
00:34:18.620 I see that's exactly right.
00:34:20.440 And you see these type of systems. 0.61
00:34:22.220 These are the type of people that want us in a hot war with the Russian state. 0.55
00:34:27.920 They want us in a ground war with Iran.
00:34:30.820 They've wanted it from the very start. 0.92
00:34:32.520 I was proud to stand there with Charlie Kirk throughout all of 2025 saying what we said.
00:34:37.720 I'm proud to stand on where I stand today.
00:34:40.160 This is the central animating feature of our time.
00:34:44.660 Do you stand with the populist nationalists or do you stand with these views of America
00:34:50.080 as a global empire, America as this globalist system, the system of globalism. This is what
00:34:56.460 the MAGA movement was birthed in this milieu. It was, are you going to surrender this country
00:35:04.200 and its people to the siren song of globalism? Or will we be a nation state once more? That was
00:35:11.100 the central animating theme, the credo. As President Trump said himself, America first
00:35:17.420 will be our credo, American nationalism. That is our credo. And so if this is in the interest of
00:35:23.700 any of these foreign affairs are in the direct interest of the American people, you need to
00:35:28.380 state your case and make your case to the American people. And you need to do so with the truth.
00:35:33.100 And if there are biolabs that we are trying to prevent, which by the way, Barack Obama, 0.98
00:35:37.100 when he was a senator, was tied to these Ukrainian biolabs, believe it or not, 0.98
00:35:40.900 visited them at one point, you know, visited in some of the programs. It's all true. It's just, 1.00
00:35:46.360 it's as they want to try to cast it in a different light this is a scott adams would have a field day
00:35:51.920 with this by the way you know it's a it's one of those things it's kind of like when they talk
00:35:55.960 about demographic change when joy reed goes up and talks about demographic change they say oh
00:35:59.900 it's great but then if if jack basobic and steve bannon talk about it oh that's a crazy conspiracy
00:36:04.000 theory jack basobic we're gonna let you get back is this the last game of the season are we there
00:36:10.340 for are we there for the uh for the season's finale sir this is the last last little game
00:36:15.120 is literally game of the season. It's the last
00:36:17.240 Saturday morning, driving out here to
00:36:19.160 the field, trying to get a couple
00:36:21.360 of more hits. But it's some big games.
00:36:23.320 High drama, high tension, Steve.
00:36:25.340 What can I say? And I'll tell you
00:36:27.300 what's something. Little League nationalism,
00:36:29.680 let me tell you something, folks.
00:36:31.080 It ain't about the baseball. I hope
00:36:33.120 everyone understands that. It ain't about
00:36:35.080 the baseball. It's about men and
00:36:37.160 women and moms and dads
00:36:38.860 and the coaches who are volunteers
00:36:40.560 and the team moms getting together,
00:36:43.040 bringing people together you come out and what and what does everybody do before the game starts
00:36:47.380 you take your hat off and you put your hat your your hand over your heart and you do the star
00:36:52.240 spangled banner and it's it's about little small towns and small leagues doing that everywhere
00:36:57.460 across this country every saturday morning that's what we're fighting for you go eat some hot dogs
00:37:03.120 afterwards with your friends that's what it's all about and building those little relationships
00:37:07.980 that's how you build the little brigades the bonds of community that's what they're trying 1.00
00:37:12.960 to destroy with infinity migrants to this country disrupting the status quo because if you have the 1.00
00:37:18.460 american people joined together with that central purpose and that bond of unity that bond of culture 0.99
00:37:23.600 and friendship nothing will ever break it uh that song that you sing in unison with the kids is
00:37:29.420 called the national anthem of the united states of america jack basobiec thank you one more time
00:37:34.020 Jack, you're the Associated Press of the MAGA, America First Movement.
00:37:37.160 Where do people go over the weekend to keep up to date?
00:37:40.520 Yes, of course.
00:37:41.320 We'll be up at Jack DeSovic.
00:37:44.020 A lot of drama regarding this potential deal.
00:37:47.140 President Trump and Foreign Minister Arachi say that a deal is in the works.
00:37:52.540 J. Vance poised potentially to head over to Geneva for a signing.
00:37:56.520 There's already been teams with security equipment sent over should the vice president choose
00:38:01.740 or should the president choose to deploy the vice president.
00:38:04.800 So things are in motion, Steve.
00:38:06.480 Things are in motion.
00:38:07.160 The president making it a working weekend amidst, of course,
00:38:11.260 the fighting weekend that we have on Sunday at the White House.
00:38:15.260 Thank you, sir.
00:38:16.080 Appreciate you.
00:38:18.020 Jack Posobiec stepping away from the league game.
00:38:20.840 Fantastic.
00:38:21.320 I'm going to go to Burkham right now.
00:38:22.580 I'm going to get back to Tulsi in a moment and Pulte in that entire situation.
00:38:27.960 Burquam, I want to go back to Steve Cortez's polling of Hispanic Americans in this country.
00:38:35.520 Their beef is not with the mass deportation.
00:38:38.100 Their beef is not with the immigration policy.
00:38:39.700 They got, because they're working class, they got, listen, the economy for working class people can be rough right now.
00:38:45.040 This is why we have to have growth, and particularly not just economic growth, but economic growth that's bringing wage growth.
00:38:52.420 I want to say wage growth ahead of inflation.
00:38:55.800 That's what their focus is.
00:38:57.500 That means they're hardworking Americans, right?
00:38:59.600 And they support us on the immigration side.
00:39:02.640 But you see it all the time, Burkwam.
00:39:04.900 What is your feeling about that?
00:39:07.160 Yeah, there's no doubt about it.
00:39:10.040 Look, I've lived almost my entire life paycheck to paycheck, and that's most people's experience in America.
00:39:16.220 And so even if you agree with us on immigration, illegal immigration, the impact it has, the reality is your priorities are the things that put food on your table, that get those little league cleats for your kids to go play games.
00:39:33.620 It's what gets your wife whatever that special thing is that she wants.
00:39:39.040 It's the things that make your life continue to go.
00:39:42.720 It's all about the economy.
00:39:44.220 Now, obviously, illegal immigration has a direct impact on that. But when you're in a situation like when President Trump came in and we had the lowest gas prices that I can remember in, I mean, in the last 20 years in Arkansas, we were almost under $2. Actually, some places were under $2 a gallon. And then you go double that. That's all people feel. They don't remember back to Joe Biden was even higher than we are now. We can say that all we want. All they feel is it was really low and now it's higher.
00:40:13.460 Everything I'm buying is a little more expensive.
00:40:15.940 Jobs are harder to come by.
00:40:18.460 You know, all these things.
00:40:19.580 The reality is illegal immigration impacts all of that.
00:40:23.460 But to the average Joe out there, they're not thinking about that.
00:40:27.400 All they're thinking about is how do I keep paying my mortgage?
00:40:30.660 How do I keep paying my car payment?
00:40:32.200 How do I keep my wife happy and my kids thinking that I'm a good dad and all these things?
00:40:36.960 That's what really matters to them.
00:40:38.320 And so we have to unfortunately, you have a lot of people in politics.
00:40:41.280 they've never lived like that they've they you know they at least not in in a near enough
00:40:46.500 time frame to actually think in those terms and so everything they're thinking about is well i've
00:40:52.320 got everything taken care of i can do all these existential things and and you know go out into
00:40:57.660 the weeds over here you got to get back to the roots of this this is why populist nationalism
00:41:02.340 why we have to take that ownership back because the left that's why you see the rise of mandami 0.99
00:41:07.040 That's why you see the rise of Hassan Piker and these idiots, because they've tapped, they're tapping into that. 1.00
00:41:12.380 They see that and they say, we can weaponize this. 1.00
00:41:14.840 The problem is they're weaponizing it and they're taking it the wrong direction.
00:41:18.060 They're taking it to make it even worse.
00:41:20.140 Our side will actually make it better.
00:41:22.060 We just have to communicate it.
00:41:23.380 And unfortunately, you have too many people that don't know how to do that.
00:41:26.180 It's just not communication, though, but it's also the ideas.
00:41:29.420 We're hardcore nationals.
00:41:30.480 You have to do the politics.
00:41:31.080 We're hardcore nationals.
00:41:33.240 And that means the border's got to be secure.
00:41:34.680 And if you're an American citizen, you get a special deal.
00:41:38.580 In fact, the Phoenix engine room informs me this morning that we're talking about this.
00:41:42.860 I said, hey, it's called American citizens first.
00:41:46.280 American citizens get a special deal.
00:41:48.560 This is what we kind of lost focus on. 0.82
00:41:50.640 And part of that special deal is keeping out this whole scam on legal immigration, H1Bs, which is a scam, and the illegal immigration, as you see. 0.63
00:41:58.540 And the reason you're deployed, you would think, after all this time, why is Ben Burquam back at the border?
00:42:04.920 You know, he should be in the middle of the Antifa raids and these mass deportation fights in Los Angeles and Minneapolis doing a great job.
00:42:12.400 Well, guess what? That's all inextricably linked.
00:42:15.380 Their full intention, and Burquam's warning the other day was one of the most powerful I've ever seen.
00:42:20.260 It was quite simply if if we flinch and we lose political control as imperfect as has been, folks, I understand it has not has been far from perfect.
00:42:31.440 If we lose control of that, there's another 20 million.
00:42:34.400 They're going to get in here in a couple of years. 1.00
00:42:36.260 Then the country is definitely gone. 0.75
00:42:38.240 You're going to have, you know, Bovina right now says there's 100 million. 0.99
00:42:40.580 There's another six million of these legal, you know, immigrants here are legal migrants that are, you know, supposedly legal immigrants here, which are also a scam. 1.00
00:42:51.660 But you had another 20 million and then you're just showing, hey, we can't even handle it. 1.00
00:42:55.380 We don't have the political will to enforce our sovereignty, the sovereignty of our borders, the sovereignty for a nation and the sovereignty for our citizens.
00:43:03.720 Ben Burkrum.
00:43:05.460 Yeah, I mean, we're functionally bankrupt as a nation right now.
00:43:08.700 And you're talking about adding more looters to the system to quote one of my favorite books, Atlas Shrugged.
00:43:15.240 If you haven't read that, I don't like what she says about I don't agree with her on what she says about religion, but on economics and populism.
00:43:21.800 She's 100 percent right. And that was you know, that's where we're at right now.
00:43:24.440 We're living with the looters. Hang on. Hang on. Let's go to break.
00:43:29.220 I had Ben Burkwam on a roll, and he's got to go full, on-ran, libertarian, you know,
00:43:35.520 with one of the books I hate more than any book in the world, Atlas Shrugged.
00:43:39.800 Oh, my God, on a Saturday.
00:43:40.960 It's a great book.
00:43:42.020 Ben Burkwam.
00:43:45.640 You see, folks, this is the kind of thing I've got to do, you know, training Poso and
00:43:49.980 training Burkwam.
00:43:51.280 You've got to bring these brothers along.
00:43:53.340 Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break.
00:43:55.320 Ben, you hang around. 0.54
00:43:57.000 Keep those mosquitoes out of the car.
00:43:58.800 We're going to stick with Burquan throughout the morning,
00:44:00.880 make sure he's got some company as he's down there on the border.
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00:46:17.280 War Room.
00:46:18.600 Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
00:46:21.560 Okay, I'm not going to take up too much time on Saturday, but Ben Burke, while I'm just hitting my trip, we're going to actually announce big news with Ben, because Ben is one of the great stalwarts of our movement.
00:46:32.820 There's very few books I hate more than Atlas Shrugged, and I think it's a quite dangerous book.
00:46:38.460 When I first got to D.C. in kind of the imperial capital with Andrew Breitbart back in the summer
00:46:45.160 of 2011, when we took the Breitbart embassy and Andrew kind of came back almost 50% of
00:46:51.700 his time, the Paul Ryan was like the man.
00:46:54.480 And Paul Ryan had every junior grand dune that worked for him or everybody on the staff,
00:46:57.960 they all read.
00:46:58.460 People walk around with Atlas Shrugged underneath their arms.
00:47:01.540 It was the book that people had to, no, not that one, the globalization book, something
00:47:07.020 else.
00:47:07.240 i'll get to that later um the um so atlas shrugged and it's you know it's about the ubermensch
00:47:14.360 the philosophy of atlas shrugged because onran was a freak okay atheistic no moral compass
00:47:21.320 complete freak um in her personal life that's a whole different deal just a freak it was a cult
00:47:28.200 she was a cult leader buckley knew this that's what buckley turfed him out you talk about buckley
00:47:33.160 going after uh going after the john birchers he was actually as focused on that because he realized
00:47:38.860 that's a dangerous cult now turn out the birchers hello turned out to be right about most things
00:47:44.120 just saying uh but no quite dangerous and i said from the beginning the philosophy of atlas shrug
00:47:50.620 leads directly to auschwitz leads directly to be happy in your work right as a grundune when uber
00:47:57.900 minch is calling the shots anyway maybe we'll take an hour one day and do that and get some
00:48:02.260 audience participation. But Ben, it's a perfect segue, Ben. It's a perfect segue. We do have a
00:48:08.780 project with Ben Burkwam. It's now official. We haven't given the title up on Amazon and all that,
00:48:13.620 but we are working on a book with Ben Burkwam. I tell you, it is a page-turner. The first cut
00:48:19.860 is a page-turner. Ben, I'm so proud of the fact, particularly your personal journey, which I don't
00:48:25.160 think a lot of people know, and I don't want to give too much up now because I wanted to buy the
00:48:28.300 book. Your personal journey is absolutely amazing. And the growth of you as a person, but the growth
00:48:34.500 of you as someone that presents the news is unbelievable. I think you're one of the finest
00:48:38.980 investigative reporters in the nation. And you have put your life on the line in many dangerous
00:48:44.520 situations that it's almost like a military calling. I mean, what you and Oscar Blue Ramirez
00:48:49.400 did those many years that really, I think, led to the nation awakening to what the real threat was
00:48:56.360 on the invasion of our border.
00:48:59.200 It just wasn't folks from Mexico, right?
00:49:01.200 It was much deeper than that.
00:49:02.760 And the work that you guys did
00:49:03.980 in putting yourself in harm's way is extraordinary.
00:49:06.700 We're working on a project.
00:49:07.960 Hopefully we'll have it out by mid to late summer, sir.
00:49:12.360 Yeah, you know, you started saying that.
00:49:16.780 I started getting emotional when I think back.
00:49:18.440 It's basically a 10-year journey.
00:49:20.060 And like you said, I'm not gonna give it all away,
00:49:21.520 but to think about where I started
00:49:24.000 to where God has brought me.
00:49:26.360 And it's pretty incredible. So when you go from the lowest of lows in the pits of hell to a life again, and you see every day is a blessing, and every day is a gift that you get to spend, you realize what you want to spend it on.
00:49:43.200 And so that's what I've spent my last 10 years doing is trying to make an impact.
00:49:47.100 No, and Ben, you were a mess. You were quite frankly, and it shows you when God's not in your life, when Jesus Christ is not in your heart, how low a human can go. But when you embrace that, the turnaround you can have, sir.
00:50:04.940 yeah and and you know what's amazing too is you gotta buy the book to read all this but um is
00:50:11.980 the the variables don't change it's how you approach them how you deal with them that's
00:50:18.320 what changes and how god working through you deal uh and so it's going to be incredible i mean it's
00:50:22.800 got all the stories from the last 10 years the coolest part about it is uh you've got the videos
00:50:26.880 to go along with it so it's not just me talking about these stories it's you you get to go to
00:50:31.160 the jungles of Panama and be in a shootout and, and then go back to the, you know, where it all
00:50:35.440 began and then, you know, and then back through it all. And so, uh, I'm, I'm just, I'm honored to
00:50:40.200 have an impact. I'm honored to, obviously, uh, there's actually an entire chapter in there about
00:50:44.340 my relationship with Steve and the grainy photo I took with you, uh, when I met you at the
00:50:49.500 Republican convention out in Anaheim, gosh, uh, eight years ago to where we are today. And, and,
00:50:55.860 And how, no matter how lost you think you might be, how God has a purpose for your life, if you choose to accept it and how you go through that and how you deal with these different situations.
00:51:06.840 So my prayer is that it's powerful, especially for young men, but just young people in general and really all people that are dealing with similar, you know, not necessarily addiction, but we all have stresses and fears and anxiety in our life and things we have to deal with.
00:51:21.560 Um, and I, I pray that it, it has a major impact on people's lives.
00:51:25.500 Um, but it is, it's an absolute honor.
00:51:27.560 And the fact that my first book is coming through war room, uh, is, uh, is a great honor.
00:51:33.100 Well, we couldn't be more excited.
00:51:34.620 It's about task and purpose is about human agency from a very, um, uh, from a very imperfect
00:51:41.260 person.
00:51:41.700 And that's what the power of this book is.
00:51:43.520 Uh, Ben, um, stick around cause I know you're not going anywhere in your car.
00:51:47.180 We're going to come back to you in the second hour.
00:51:48.620 How's that?
00:51:49.020 uh if the tow truck gets here if the if the guys get here no no tow tow tow tow truck goes you get
00:51:55.820 we're gonna get you right back on i want to meet the tow truck driver we'll pick up the tab ben
00:52:00.040 berkman ben social media give your social media so people can follow you uh at ben berkman's my
00:52:06.240 personal uh you got frontline america that's my website but uh obviously real america's voice is
00:52:11.260 where everything happens i'm americasvoice.news get all the episodes of law and border and then
00:52:16.820 social media at real am voice or at ben burkwam okay stick around as soon as the tow truck comes
00:52:23.180 let us know and don't do this anymore you're too you're too valuable now to the country
00:52:29.100 to put yourself in harm yeah i know you put yourself in harm's way but you can't do it in
00:52:32.720 the middle of the night by yourself when nobody else is around um ben burkwam uh metaxas is going
00:52:39.400 to be here we're going to talk about revolution the meaning and purpose of it and quite frankly
00:52:43.660 because I think, you know, the president, we got America 250.
00:52:46.840 They're trying to do it, but obviously the country is not united.
00:52:50.360 It's divided.
00:52:51.120 It's particularly divided, I think, going back to our origin story.
00:52:54.540 That's where this book is so important, and this moment is so important.
00:52:57.540 So we're going to do that after a commercial break.
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