Bannon's War Room - Episode 5451： Breaking Down The Iran Deal

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00:00:47.520 okay welcome back it's wednesday 17 june year of the lord 2026 records is here we're going to try

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00:01:46.940 you're especially the way i came upon jim records the legendary jim records i read your book currency

00:01:53.180 war i don't know it i think the book came out two two or six or two or seven like 20 years ago

00:01:59.060 it was brilliant and it changed my whole and i had already been to georgetown in the strategy

00:02:04.580 the you know the one that gene crew patrick set up the school of foreign service in harvard i

00:02:09.760 worked at goldman and been around the world had businesses everywhere but i didn't really

00:02:14.160 understand currency as a weapon. And you explained that to me and how important this is.

00:02:20.520 And one thing I just want people to remember, and even people negotiating this deal,

00:02:24.380 when you talk about economic warfare, the structures and the processes of economic

00:02:31.320 warfare, because you've got to kind of bring the world in with the Swiss system and the American,

00:02:35.720 you know, basically the throw weight of the dollar, but it's not easy. And in fact,

00:02:41.140 you've got these sanctions guys are always trying to know the french are renowned for trying to do

00:02:45.580 workarounds you've you've got the sanctions you've frozen their cash which is about a hundred billion

00:02:51.380 dollars when you look and i think in western banks it's probably 50 to 60 billion we i think we have

00:02:56.960 direct access to 24 billion uh you've then got restrictions on selling oil and sanctioning of

00:03:02.760 the nations i mean you have a whole end of currency which beset went after you have so many tools

00:03:07.840 available to you and we know it has brought these guys to the knees we keep talking about the 400

00:03:13.060 you know million a month or a billion dollars a month they're they're losing this is a powerful

00:03:19.280 set of tools and processes and when i read this when i read this thing they say was they got us

00:03:25.780 do certain acts but it looked like the certain acts are gonna be done on the on the deal that

00:03:29.940 we'll sign in 60 days then once you start underwriting once they get cash then they can

00:03:36.040 buy time and they can do their thing. And you know, the Persians, they're the toughest hombres 1.00

00:03:40.100 in the world to negotiate with. They've been doing this for 3,500 years. Read the Old Testament, 1.00

00:03:45.540 right? So you're an expert. Don't we have a huge amount of leverage, which is just not our fleet

00:03:50.960 in the kinetic part, the part that really gets them? Because they withstood the bombings, right?

00:03:57.780 They withstood the bombing. The thing that puts the pressure on the mullahs, that puts the pressure 0.96

00:04:02.140 on the Revolutionary Guard is people not eating, 0.77

00:04:06.400 people not living good, fulfilling lives

00:04:08.760 because they're choked down economically.

00:04:10.860 And that's where we got them by the throat.

00:04:12.840 And for no reason at all, we should let that go 0.63

00:04:16.260 until we compensate the American people,

00:04:18.580 until we're paid off, we're out, then take it,

00:04:22.000 we're out of here, never see again. 0.80

00:04:23.720 Israel, you do what you gotta do.

00:04:25.780 Good luck, hope it all works out.

00:04:27.420 Jim Rickards.

00:04:28.880 Yeah, that's right.

00:04:29.620 And thanks for mentioning the book, Steve,

00:04:30.820 Currency Wars. Now, that book came out in 2011, but the first two chapters are about something

00:04:36.760 that took place in 2009. So you're right, it does go back quite a bit. I facilitated and participated

00:04:42.420 in the first ever financial war game hosted by the Pentagon. The sponsor was actually PACOM,

00:04:48.640 Pacific Command. They had a PhD economist on the central staff of the Pacific Command. That's how

00:04:54.760 seriously they took it. But here's the point. The rules were you couldn't use weapons. It was

00:05:00.260 100% non-kinetic. It wasn't like, hey, bomb them and do this. It was all financial. And that's how

00:05:05.840 we played it. And it went to the attention of Defense Secretary Robert Gates. He said, well

00:05:11.540 done. This was really, really useful. So I talk about that in the book. But the point is, using

00:05:18.280 currencies, commodities, stocks and bonds, interest rates, embargoes, freezes. There's

00:05:27.240 something called a IEPA, kind of a clumsy name. It's the International Emergency Economic Powers

00:05:31.960 Act of 1977. It actually gives the president dictatorial powers, dictatorial in the good

00:05:37.840 sense of the word, the way that the Roman Republic, if things get messy, they say,

00:05:41.120 we need a dictator for a term limited to two years. It's amazing. And I describe it,

00:05:46.720 you can freeze, seize, and not say please. It gives the president extraordinary powers.

00:05:51.640 Now, there are all these crazy federal district judges who are pushing back, but

00:05:54.820 But that's the main tool you use for sanctions.

00:05:58.040 You can obviously seize assets.

00:06:00.260 You can convert them.

00:06:01.940 You can prohibit oil exports from Iran. 0.93

00:06:06.020 But you can go beyond that.

00:06:06.860 There's something called secondary sanctions.

00:06:08.980 Secondary sanctions where you go to another party, it could be China, Korea, or anybody

00:06:12.440 else, and say, hey, if you, China or Korea, do business with Iran, we're going to sanction 0.69

00:06:18.560 you.

00:06:19.760 And then it just kind of spreads.

00:06:21.400 It's like a network, and it's extremely powerful.

00:06:23.780 it's like cutting off the oxygen supply so uh does it work yes now by the way the guy who did

00:06:29.020 this very well but hang but hang but hang hang on slowly every second how long because and you've

00:06:34.260 said this a number of times obama on the jcpoa didn't work but they did a pretty good job of

00:06:40.800 laying in the first level of sanctions and and president trump in his first term and now second

00:06:45.800 and with best has done a better but sanctions themselves and choking guys down are not hard

00:06:51.920 not easy to put in and they're once you take them off the inmates just run out you know the french 0.71

00:06:58.140 will be over there they'll be setting up offices all the time you'll you'll never get them back 0.99

00:07:01.500 right right well well that's right now by the way the jcpoa was an awful deal but the question is

00:07:07.280 how did you get iran to the table and how did you get a deal at all even though it wasn't a great

00:07:11.240 deal the answer is obama and his treasury department ran a very good financial war for two

00:07:15.940 years. From 2010 to 2012, they did a lot of the things we're talking about. And I even talked to

00:07:23.720 the Assistant Secretary of the Treasury at the time. I said, why don't you keep it up? Why are

00:07:27.520 you negotiating with them? You got to maybe get them to the table. But why don't you just keep

00:07:31.840 it up? Keep dialing it up. Don't fire a shot. And Obama did not fire a shot. Now, Obama did a lot

00:07:36.680 of things wrong. They dumped, I don't know how many, 10 or 20 billion dollars for the gold and

00:07:42.520 currency. It was euros, by the way, not dollars, because they're easier to pass around on a runway

00:07:47.800 in Tehran and flew away. It had a bad ending, but it was a very good financial war. It's a good

00:07:53.420 model for what Trump can do. Steve, the way I think about it, and I'll be brief, I've said

00:07:59.960 before, Trump has three choices, surrender, stalemate, and escalation. The way to analyze

00:08:08.400 this. This is a casebook study of what mathematicians call the Monty Hall problem.

00:08:15.840 Monty Hall was a game show host in the 1960s, and he had a show, Let's Make a Deal. And the

00:08:20.600 contestant had three doors. And there was one had a grand prize, you know, trip around the world.

00:08:26.280 One had like an okay prize, like a TV set. And the other one had a booby prize, like a box of

00:08:30.940 nails or something. And they asked the contestant to pick one. So let's say the contestant says,

00:08:35.180 okay, I picked door number three. And before they opened door number three, Monty Hall would go up

00:08:40.120 and open door number two, for example, and there was the box of nails. So, okay, now we know where

00:08:45.620 the booby prize is. You're not getting that. The grand prize is one of those two doors. Do you want

00:08:50.440 to change your mind? That was the question. And almost all the contestants said, no, I had a one

00:08:55.560 third chance of getting it right. The odds haven't changed. I'm just going to stick to door number

00:08:59.300 three. But the math, I have a 25 page mathematical proof. We'll spare the posse of that. But the

00:09:05.160 point is, you should absolutely change to door number one, because one and two together had a

00:09:10.940 two-thirds chance of being right. And once you know that two is no good, one, door number one,

00:09:15.900 still has a two-thirds chance of being right, which beats one-third, so you're supposed to switch. 0.52

00:09:20.380 So getting back to Iran, surrender is door number one, stalemate's door number two,

00:09:25.560 escalation's door number three. Trump was leaning to door number three, but somebody, I'm not sure,

00:09:31.200 but I think probably J.D. Vance said, Mr. President, door number two is the booby price.

00:09:35.100 We're almost out of oil. You're going to shut down the global economy if you continue with

00:09:39.200 the escalation. So given that, sorry, yeah, continue with the stalemate. We're going to

00:09:44.160 shut down the global economy. That's the worst outcome. So given that, are you supposed to

00:09:48.980 change your mind and go from door number three to door number one to the bad deal? The answer is

00:09:53.800 yes. And that's what Trump did. Now, this deal is awful. I wouldn't suggest otherwise,

00:09:58.600 but it's the best of the three choices what what what what don't you like when you say that what

00:10:04.000 don't you like about it the deal oh it's it you know it gives you man everything they want but

00:10:10.060 my point is stalemate is worse and escalation is worse that would destroy hang on does doesn't he

00:10:16.540 his number one objective he said from the beginning is the nuclear issue do you believe as you read it

00:10:22.680 look this is very preliminary and it's only a temporary agreement to keep the ceasefire going

00:10:27.020 But do you see the ability to shut down, as you deem it, to be shut down this nuclear program that everybody so worked up about?

00:10:36.000 The answer is yes.

00:10:37.060 And here's where Trump's brilliance could, I think, come in.

00:10:40.460 Although, I got to say, J.D. Vance is probably the only guy in the White House who understands what I just described.

00:10:44.960 But the point is, take door number one, the bad deal, and turn the tables.

00:10:49.660 Say, you know what?

00:10:50.320 We're not going to escalate.

00:10:51.740 We're not going to continue the stalemate.

00:10:54.360 But we're going to take door number one and turn that around on you.

00:10:57.140 Instead of giving you what you want, we're going to take everything we can possibly get.

00:11:00.600 So no bombing, no kinetics, no continuation.

00:11:05.800 But we're going to tighten the screws like you've never seen.

00:11:08.200 And by the way, you know, you at least have to open the Strait of Hormuz.

00:11:11.920 So that's the way to go.

00:11:15.680 Surrender is not a good choice.

00:11:17.980 Trump would get past it.

00:11:19.540 We've seen worse, like Afghanistan, for example.

00:11:22.280 Not a good outcome.

00:11:23.840 But Trump can turn the tables by doing exactly what we're talking about,

00:11:26.640 which is going to financial warfare.

00:11:28.740 But you have to understand how to do it.

00:11:30.020 Not that many people do.

00:11:31.480 I mean, Besson is probably a pretty good candidate.

00:11:34.380 But it's especially, you know, you were at the Wall School or Georgetown.

00:11:37.940 I was at Seiss over at Johns Hopkins.

00:11:40.340 You have to understand capital markets and national security.

00:11:44.580 A lot of big brains in either one, but not that many people who can really combine them.

00:11:48.020 That's a short list.

00:11:49.040 but don't we have to i mean isn't that our isn't that our leverage because i mean let me take it

00:11:56.480 a different way if you start giving these guys money and they've never lived up to any any uh

00:12:01.940 any deal they've ever had but if they get to some of these preliminary things you start giving them

00:12:06.600 cash you've got them off the hook the hook we got them on now between the navy being the instrument

00:12:11.920 of economic warfare the sanctions everything else keeping their cash is they're having a tough time

00:12:17.640 moving their project forward. They admit this. President Trump, they talk about all the time,

00:12:21.600 their economy is collapsing. This is what drove people to the streets was not the bombing. They

00:12:26.880 didn't show up. What drove the people to the streets is when he went out and actively tried

00:12:31.140 to destroy their currency back in January. Then you had people all over because they thought,

00:12:36.900 hey, this is the end of me financially. Isn't that the weapon we have that's still the most

00:12:42.280 powerful, even more powerful than our magnificent military, to go kinetic?

00:12:47.780 Yes.

00:12:48.040 And prior to this deal, I said we were looking at what I call door number two, which is the

00:12:54.660 stalemate.

00:12:55.580 But I always describe this as a game of chicken between Iran and the United States. 0.97

00:12:59.480 Iran was going to shut down the global economy. 0.98

00:13:01.960 We were going to try to shut down Iran. 0.99

00:13:03.820 And I said the US would blink. 1.00

00:13:05.340 And we did, because we're OK.

00:13:06.980 We made it from April to June.

00:13:09.220 but we're just about out of oil and really consequential, catastrophic things are very

00:13:14.560 close to happen. So the US blanked. But getting back to the financial warfare, yeah, that is

00:13:21.340 absolutely the way to go. Now, here's where the timing comes in. I said earlier, this is all

00:13:27.180 about patience. Yeah, Iran has 1,000 pounds of 60% highly enriched uranium. That's not a nuclear

00:13:33.280 weapon. It's a big deal, long time getting there. But the steps you have to take, you got to enrich

00:13:38.980 it to 90%. You have to weaponize it. You have to come up with what's called a device. That's not a

00:13:44.220 bomb or a missile. It's a device. Then you've got to turn it into a warhead, which is extremely

00:13:47.860 difficult. That's a very challenging engineering project in and of itself. Then you have to build

00:13:52.700 the ballistic missiles, and you've got to have a warhead that can be on a missile and not kind of

00:13:56.560 blow up in midair. That's robust enough to actually deliver to somebody. Those steps will take years

00:14:01.500 at best. So we have time, and that's why I'm not saying we should ignore it. We should be all over

00:14:06.580 it, but we have time to strangle them financially, and that's what we should do.

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00:14:24.060 We were supposed to be in a press conference, so we had a great second hour.

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00:16:46.560 jim before i let you go um there's already i mean on capitol hill there's already a firestorm about

00:16:53.680 this and now you know um there there are folks let's say more hawkish more aligned with the

00:16:59.680 Azure First Project are saying now and have been here to Fort Big Island as a president.

00:17:03.660 I'm saying, no, Congress has got to get involved.

00:17:06.480 Some people are saying even this is a treaty.

00:17:09.080 This negotiation, you've done this before.

00:17:12.320 How complicated does the president have it now that the that the at least the framework of the MOU is out and they're trying to get to a signing,

00:17:20.160 especially when the Persian media is playing it up that this is an American defeat and we're

00:17:28.100 kowtowing to them we're going 24 billion here and 300 billion there and all this

00:17:32.100 how does this this is going to be a quite rocky negotiation what would be your recommendation to

00:17:36.880 the president well we know the president's pretty good at tearing up deals you know Paris Climate

00:17:41.640 Accord and you know the JCPOA and and all that so he could tear this one up when it suits him

00:17:48.360 And I would keep the negotiation going.

00:17:52.300 Yeah, why not?

00:17:53.180 Ceasefire is probably a good thing, but just don't give them any money, period.

00:17:57.540 And say, hey, by the way, you better open the Straits if it moves tomorrow, but we'll

00:18:01.980 talk about money, but don't actually give them any and then lay the groundwork and start

00:18:06.020 to implement the financial war we talked about.

00:18:07.720 Again, it's Trump playing kind of into Iran's hands a little bit with the negotiation, but

00:18:14.220 at the same time, turning the tables and preparing his own counteroffensive, but financial, not

00:18:19.420 military. A quick aside, Steve, you said Thune's treating Trump like a lame duck. I would say John 0.98

00:18:25.080 Thune's the lame duck. He's going to lose five runners, McConnell, Ernst, Cassidy, Cornyn, and

00:18:30.100 Tillis. You get five MAGA people in those seats, you'll see Rick Scott as the Senate majority

00:18:35.240 leader. Well, why don't we do that now? It takes 27 votes. I don't know why we're not making that

00:18:41.160 move right now because if Thune's going to do it, here's the thing. If Thune continues

00:18:45.440 and we're past these primaries, we got the team that Stephen Law and the Senate Leadership Fund

00:18:51.120 wants, they're going to lose. I actually would like to hold the Senate. I think the grassroots

00:18:55.880 would like to work to hold the Senate. Right now, there's nothing to work for because they

00:19:00.800 thwarted President Trump on virtually everything except the big, beautiful bill, which was, you

00:19:05.680 know it obviously it helped the country tremendously but it was driven by their donors so what would

00:19:11.880 be your recommendation to president trump their i mean today was a big throwdown he said you're

00:19:16.620 canceling this thing you're trying to jam through here because jay clayton ain't showing up he's my

00:19:20.840 guy i want an official three or four months and pulte's going in on friday whether you like it or

00:19:26.400 not what would be your recommendation to the president how how he handles thun well either

00:19:32.460 The Thune steps down, and you have a leadership election.

00:19:35.620 The problem is the five rhinos are still there, the ones I mentioned. 1.00

00:19:39.540 I'm not sure they have the votes, but they could do it.

00:19:41.960 The Thune steps down, or you have this stalemate where Trump does not give the Senate anything

00:19:49.020 they want, use the veto, and keep the appointments, whether it's acting or temporary or whatever.

00:19:55.140 That's okay.

00:19:55.700 They're still in command.

00:19:57.180 Call out what you want.

00:19:58.180 You're good for a year.

00:19:58.940 and just keep doing that until they give him some of what he wants or all of what he wants.

00:20:03.080 But yeah, you can't play nice with Dune anymore because he's not playing nice.

00:20:07.960 He's out to destroy Trump.

00:20:10.220 I agree with you 100%, sir.

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00:22:09.240 That's different than reading. The ability, I will tell you, one of the biggest strategic

00:22:13.720 advantages I've had in my life is that I've been a voracious reader since I was

00:22:17.740 seven, eight, nine years old. Why? Because my mother and father were voracious readers. They

00:22:23.580 were working class people, but they were voracious readers and were self-taught in so many. I mean,

00:22:30.180 they had good Catholic education, grammar school and high school backgrounds, and they used that

00:22:34.140 leverage. What did they do? They were voracious, not just newspapers, which always in magazines,

00:22:39.640 the news magazine, but library books, buying books. We had a, you know, I had a good library

00:22:44.480 in our house. When you lose that, and particularly if your children lose that, life is a more

00:22:52.100 difficult struggle. It just is. And you can go to this AI and punch it in. It's not the same.

00:22:57.600 There's a process in reading that takes the mind as a muscle. And it's like resistance. It's like

00:23:05.720 working out every day or running every day. And people, I got to tell you, when you buy this book

00:23:11.260 for young people, because this is an amazing narrative, but it's very accessible. It's not

00:23:15.780 a scholarly book, although it's got tremendous research. It kind of reads as a narrative history

00:23:19.760 like William Manchester did in, you know, The Glory and the Dream, or books like these massive,

00:23:25.540 these big narrative histories. It flows like a novel. He uses Metaxas like, you know, like other

00:23:34.160 people like tom wolf and others have used um you know novelistic techniques to tell stories that

00:23:41.700 was the big invention in the late 50s and 60s uh and these are tom wolf's you know the right stuff

00:23:46.620 and uh and books like the electric kool-aid acid test books that were not novels it reads but as

00:23:52.340 you buy this book for young people you're going to find them struggling because it's a 600 page

00:23:57.580 book that tells a story that's the power of the book that's why revolution is sold so much

00:24:03.320 And this is why this whole concept of having really conservative points of view in serious books, the New York Times, the culture, the people that control the institutions of culture in our country are adamant about not letting that happen.

00:24:20.880 And they understand with art and film and music and television and all this, that still the printed word, like back in Gutenberg and the Reformation that came because of the Bible being in the vernacular language of the Germans and then the nations of the earth caused this earthquake.

00:24:40.240 They understand that books are still paramount in this cultural war, and that's why they've been so hard on revolution.

00:24:47.960 Tony, you've lived this your entire life. Your family's been in this business. You've been a

00:24:52.280 great champion of First Amendment rights. Have you ever seen anything like this in trying to

00:24:57.100 shut this book down, sir? Yeah, I haven't seen anything like this since Bobby Kennedy's book,

00:25:03.640 The Real Anthony Fauci. So people have to recognize there's economic warfare, there's

00:25:09.540 military warfare, but there's also cultural warfare. And that's what's going on here.

00:25:14.500 So we have Jill Biden's book come out and, you know, go to Amazon now, look it up.

00:25:19.540 It's number 567, meaning that it's a failed new book.

00:25:24.380 No, no, no, no.

00:25:24.920 It was number one on the New York Times bestseller list.

00:25:28.100 Mathematically, it could not be 500 on Amazon, right?

00:25:33.280 Incredible.

00:25:34.220 So if you look up Eric Metaxas' book, Revolution, you will see it's number 38 in all books.

00:25:41.460 It's at the very top in nonfiction.

00:25:44.500 But look and see Jill Biden's book, number 567, and it's listed as a number one New York Times

00:25:51.880 bestseller. So, you know, this is about control. This is about controlling what you do, what you

00:25:57.980 think, what you put into your body and what you read. So despite just incredible censorship from

00:26:04.860 everywhere, from newspapers, from bookstores, from every left wing bookstore in the country,

00:26:10.700 which is practically all the bookstores from Barnes and Noble that refuses to

00:26:15.380 carry the book.

00:26:17.700 Listen, they're desperate to sell books because the margins of there are tough.

00:26:22.700 On Sunday, you went around to the biggest,

00:26:25.060 most important Barnes and Noble in New York city in Manhattan,

00:26:28.300 which is the book reading capital of the universe.

00:26:30.960 And you were sending me photos. I don't have time.

00:26:32.980 But they had displays on every book under the sun.

00:26:37.300 And I kept saying, I said, Tony, go to the stacks, go to the stacks.

00:26:40.580 the books in the stacks, it's not, they didn't even order revolution. It's nowhere. They got

00:26:45.660 10,000 copies, including five tables with Jill Biden and every other stupid book out there. 0.99

00:26:51.340 And they haven't even ordered a copy of revolution to put it in the stacks. 0.99

00:26:57.880 Jill Biden's books stacked to the rafters in every bookstore in America, just incredible. But

00:27:04.840 you look at those stacks and I have pictures of them from these flagship Barnes and Noble stores.

00:27:10.580 and there's not a single copy taken. They're stacked up beautifully because nobody is buying

00:27:16.820 them. So Eric Metaxas' book sells 25% more in the first week. But I don't even think that any

00:27:24.580 of the Jill Biden books, really any, were purchased by consumers. This is all just a game.

00:27:31.060 And thousands and thousands of people came out to read Revolution because they know that this is a

00:27:38.000 people want to read about the giants who fought the revolution, the people who fought for our

00:27:43.700 freedom. These are just incredible stories that Eric has put together. That's what people want

00:27:48.860 to read. And these other people, they want to control everything. But the War Room Posse,

00:27:54.660 you guys, all of us, we have more power than they have. That they can write hit pieces,

00:28:00.140 they can write stories about, you know, everything day after day to try to take us down,

00:28:05.880 to try to change the narrative but we don't have to accept it and i think that what this is showing

00:28:11.720 is that millions of americans are just mad as hell and they're just not going to take it anymore

00:28:16.920 that you can't beg them you can't force them you can't use propaganda or censorship or de-platforming

00:28:25.400 to get people to accept fake news fake science fake bestseller lists any of this so we're fighting

00:28:32.840 back and we're winning yeah hang on one second i'll hold you through the break we're also going

00:28:37.640 to go to texas next everyone's focus on how the conflict in the middle east is raising oil prices

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00:30:10.200 uh tony we gotta go to this press conference in a moment uh we'll have you back on tomorrow

00:30:16.720 the next day to go in more depth about this? Where do they get Revolution right now, sir?

00:30:21.880 Yeah, the only real place to get it is on Amazon now, unfortunately. There's so many stores that

00:30:27.720 are going to start taking it soon. But Barnes & Noble is trying really hard not to get you to

00:30:33.340 buy this book. Hundreds and hundreds of left-wing bookstores don't want you to buy this book.

00:30:38.360 So they're not even taking orders for it. And online, you see that they discount left-wing

00:30:43.820 books more than right-wing books. So everything is pushing you towards buying other books because

00:30:48.800 they don't want you to know the incredible true stories about this country, the ultimate

00:30:54.020 celebration of what's great about this country. And that is Eric Metaxas' revolution.

00:31:00.040 Brother, where'd they go one more time to get this book? Let's continue to go to Amazon right

00:31:07.040 now, revolution, buy it for a young person too, and say, Hey, look, we're going to read it together.

00:31:13.820 We're going to read and have our own book club internally over the kitchen,

00:31:16.960 over the kitchen table twice a week. How about that? Tony Lyons.

00:31:20.600 Thank you, brother. Appreciate you. Thank you. Appreciate you.

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00:32:01.480 tough people good people 972 patriot abraham george dude what is the hell is going on in texas

00:32:09.600 we we had the great team mary and everybody coming on we had overwhelming support people in texas

00:32:15.740 great signing up for this huge thing is going to happen in austin about these textbooks but but i

00:32:21.340 don't understand it why is care showing up at the texas convention why are they threatening people

00:32:27.540 i thought when we were down there spending much time with you guys a couple of months early in

00:32:32.840 the year about prop 10 uh prohibiting sharia law i thought that care has been designated as a

00:32:38.920 terrorist organization. Why are they allowed to terrorize people like Julie Pickering and some

00:32:43.880 of these other great patriots you have working, sir? Well, the rules of the party allowed them

00:32:50.340 to show up to the convention. And we changed it. But the truth is, Steve, we could have removed

00:32:56.620 them on Thursday or Wednesday when we had the SREC meeting. And the credentials committee who

00:33:04.140 basically vets everyone, Bonnie Wallace, amazing patriot, she showed up to the SREC meeting and

00:33:10.380 said, we recommend these two members, these two delegates to be removed from the delegation list.

00:33:16.380 And the SD11 is where this is coming from. Galen Devine, the SREC member, basically did a point

00:33:21.660 of order saying, do you have any proof they are associated with the care organizations? And

00:33:26.880 I mean, we ended up having to keep them, move them over to the convention and the convention, the SD convention caucus meetings, our national committee man, Robin Armstrong, and one of the Texas house reps went up and spoke for them, essentially, and said they're good people.

00:33:48.220 you got to remember, one of these guys started CARE in Texas. They are designated as a terrorist

00:33:55.640 organization. My whole thing is I'm free to speak about all of these things now that I'm not the

00:34:01.160 chair. Here's the problem. Why are we arresting them? If you have a terrorist organization running

00:34:06.780 within the country, in your state, why are we still open to having them come to any of our

00:34:11.820 meeting or run around in our state? How do you know what they're going to do next time? So this

00:34:17.020 has been a problem a lot of patriots but hang on but hey abraham hang for a second down in texas

00:34:25.800 amy mech i can't speak highly enough of amy mech and her team and what they've done on video

00:34:30.980 footage i mean these people are patriots and american heroes the way that they do it in every

00:34:37.460 country this is one of the reasons we had mckelvenny come from london and spend that week

00:34:41.620 in november that it got everybody motivated to do the the prop 10 starting in january with the

00:34:47.380 dinner and the in the kickoff with glenn beck and everybody throughout europe what they do and you

00:34:53.060 see this in england you see it in london they use the uh the rules that people legitimately play by

00:35:00.640 against you so you have situations where oh you can't prove it and you you have these people show

00:35:06.900 up that are affiliated with these terrorist organizations and they use robert's rules of

00:35:11.120 order, whatever the credential, and you get just one or two people who are controlled opposition,

00:35:16.660 you gum up the whole works. And next thing you know, you have a fiasco at the, now the good

00:35:22.760 news is I think it motivated in the breakout session. I saw the footage. I think it had seven

00:35:28.420 or 800 people show up at these breakout sessions about Sharia laws. I think it's even more motivated

00:35:33.440 people, but they're going to continue that. They're going to use the rules of the Texas

00:35:39.700 republican party and also town commissions etc with one or two rogue business people

00:35:46.420 or one or two rogue financiers or one or two rogue local politicians or in this case

00:35:51.100 the people you've identified to use it against people at the same time putting a chill on people

00:35:58.080 that should be going and rolling these people up i mean it's been designated a terrorist organization

00:36:02.260 by governor abbott i just don't understand why more direct action is not taking place sir

00:36:08.100 You're absolutely right. The problem is when they use these rules, I can tell you, I can promise you, Steve, 99.99% of that 5,000 some people who were there or 6,000 were on board with removing these people, kicking them out of our process of putting our platform together, our priorities together.

00:36:30.560 They're part of the conversation. And our own national committee man goes up there and speaks

00:36:36.360 against it. Our own SREC member goes up on the microphone and speaks against it and do a point

00:36:43.440 of order. And they use this. It's time that we, as Republicans, ask people in the state of Texas,

00:36:51.500 openly talk about this and get our government, Greg Abbott and our attorney general, all of our

00:36:57.360 people to come on board with saying, if these people are associated with this, they are going

00:37:02.000 to be arrested. They are going to be removed. We are going to investigate you. Because once you

00:37:06.760 designate someone as a terrorist organization, it should come up with, it should come with some

00:37:12.260 penalties as well. Are you, are you, look, you're a very prominent guy, obviously, with chairman of

00:37:16.600 the Republican Party. Are you in conversations with people? Like, how do we start taking this

00:37:22.460 seriously in Texas? Because if the governor comes out and says, designate them a terrorist

00:37:28.420 organization in the Muslim Brotherhood and action is not taken, then people say, then what's it all

00:37:32.920 worth? Are you having conversations right now with people in authority to kind of move the ball

00:37:38.100 forward? We are. We are talking about it. I am not the chairman of the party anymore. We have a new

00:37:44.960 leadership team that comes on board. Hopefully, they will continue that conversation and take it

00:37:50.180 a place where we actually going to have real consequences for these people who are pushing

00:37:54.900 this terrorist idea. These are the same people who came to the SBOE and said, Alamo, Alamo of

00:38:00.940 all things in Texas was influenced by Middle Eastern culture. So they're trying to twist the

00:38:06.800 history. They're trying to twist everything in America. And our people are siding with them and 0.51

00:38:12.600 letting them have it. It's time that we actually stand stronger than where we were and do the right

00:38:17.900 thing abraham what's your social media people want to follow this i'll tell you that the outpouring

00:38:22.700 we had yesterday when mary castle came on for the sign up and you're going to have i think a huge

00:38:27.940 amount of texas patriots show up this thing monday folks i should tell you i think it might get a

00:38:33.160 little confrontational because you're going to have a big turnout uh by uh the other side and

00:38:38.600 i think it's going to get a little contentious because they're coming in hot these texas patriots

00:38:43.420 are not going to back down we talk about the school books and things like the alamo these

00:38:47.180 folks are dug in. So this is of national importance, because it drives not just the

00:38:51.980 national conversation, because as Texas goes, so goes the nation. But in just in addition,

00:38:56.640 practically, I've talked to Tony and everybody in the book publisher and said, hey, if Texas

00:39:00.720 signs off on it, you can assume it's going to be in 15 to 20 states in their textbooks. So

00:39:05.500 this is kind of a national issue already. Where do they go to follow you, Abraham?

00:39:10.080 They can follow me on x at Abraham George. We're on Facebook and everywhere else on Abraham George

00:39:16.180 Texas. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you. Thank you. The turnout down in Texas was just absolutely

00:39:24.080 incredible. Dr. Bradley Thayer, thank you for hanging out. There's a story. I want to make

00:39:28.200 sure we get it out because it's so brilliantly written. It's up on American Thinker, I think,

00:39:33.440 today. And it's one of my favorites because I say we've been a populist nationalist movement.

00:39:39.160 I think to kick down the door and get rolling, populism kind of took the lead. But nationalism,

00:39:45.420 not just catch up. I think we're going to get more nationalistic, much more nationalistic

00:39:49.900 over time. Talk to me about your piece and how do people get it, sir?

00:39:55.060 Steve, thanks for having me on today to talk about it. So the argument is that the elites

00:39:59.860 have failed. The Western elites have failed, and they failed intentionally, of course. The

00:40:04.440 policies that they put in place, particularly with respect to migration, were intentionally

00:40:11.520 designed, whether that's in the United States or Australia, in Europe, in the UK, to break apart

00:40:20.980 those societies, the nation states we knew in those countries. And so that's generated the

00:40:29.660 reaction. People know that the elites have failed. National identity is being reawoken.

00:40:36.040 But hang on, hang on. We just saw a part of that in this Texas situation,

00:40:39.980 where Texas is having to fight to get this into the school books

00:40:43.520 about what really happened in Texas,

00:40:45.100 what the values of Texas are in the United States of America.

00:40:47.620 But over the weekend, and by the way, these breakout sessions were,

00:40:51.520 I don't know, six, seven, 800,000 people wanting to know more

00:40:55.440 about this whole situation with the mass migration of Islam

00:41:00.360 and Muslims and Sharia law into Texas. 0.96

00:41:02.600 So you see it, it's going to happen more every day. 0.88

00:41:05.460 And what happened?

00:41:06.560 You had some people from the elite kind of Republican Party.

00:41:09.440 that said, oh, no, no, no, no, these guys can come in, they're good guys, and what happened?

00:41:13.120 You caused a fracas. Once they get a foothold, they're going to start demanding for their

00:41:17.740 stuff, and you're going to have these difficult situations, which has got so many people in

00:41:22.880 England on their back foot, sir. Yeah. Well, the old age isn't giving up,

00:41:28.060 Steve. They're in power, and they're not giving up. They're not going to

00:41:30.780 release their grip on power. It's the new age that's going to have to take it from them. It's

00:41:35.860 the modern nationalist identity that we're seeing.

00:41:40.860 There's so much bad news with respect to that, from Jocelyn Nungri to Lakin Riley to all

00:41:46.860 of the horrific events, Henry Novak, the Belfast attempted beheading by the Sudanese

00:41:54.360 migrant, the rape gang report that was released yesterday, over 250,000 British girls and 0.98

00:42:01.880 women raped by mostly Pakistani Muslim gangs. 0.99

00:42:07.640 Horrific events every day made worse by EU decisions. 0.98

00:42:11.500 The European Union decided it six months ago, January of this year, to sign a mobility

00:42:17.360 agreement with India that's going to allow Indians by the tens of millions next year

00:42:23.080 to enter the EU.

00:42:25.940 on June 12th.

00:42:27.380 So just a few days ago, the migration policy came into effect, EU migration policy, where

00:42:34.180 they're going to redistribute migrants in the European Union to places that are stressed

00:42:41.100 like Spain. 0.97

00:42:42.100 I'm going to hold you through the break, and we're going to try to get it all in before

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00:42:48.700 We haven't got a warning yet that Charlie Kirkshire is probably going to have this presser, and

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00:48:30.560 Dr. Thayer, why is that such an important concept for people to get their head around, sir? 1.00

00:48:37.120 It's absolutely essential. So the elites weaponize migration. They import people from

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00:48:50.160 We see this in the United States, of course, with Biden's open borders policies. We're seeing this

00:48:54.740 now in Europe, UK, Australia. Immigration without end. The elite want it and nothing can stop it. 1.00

00:49:03.440 Remigration is the idea of reversing that. And that is that the peoples of the West are not

00:49:09.380 going to tolerate the destructions of their identities, and they're not going to tolerate

00:49:13.540 the destructions of Western civilization. And they're going to reverse that by submitting,

00:49:19.580 obviously, that if you don't have permission to be in the state, if you don't have legal

00:49:25.560 permission, you've got to go. And we see the strengthening of this movement, Steve,

00:49:32.840 throughout the West. What started out as a very modest movement has grown into a tremendous

00:49:40.320 movement where we see the European Parliament, of all things, the European Parliament today

00:49:45.720 just passed a motion tightening, essentially, and accelerating deportation. It's a small step,

00:49:53.540 but it's a step in the right direction, which shows the new age of nationalism.

00:49:58.440 It may be a fighting.

00:49:59.740 Where do people go to get the article and where do they go?

00:50:02.540 We're going to have up shortly, I think, your book that'll be out later this summer that'll

00:50:07.940 walk them through this war we're fighting with communism.

00:50:10.400 Where do people go to get your writing, particularly this article, sir?

00:50:14.220 See, they can go to American Thinker or they can go to Brad Thayer at Exit, Bradley Thayer

00:50:19.240 at Getter or Truth.

00:50:21.420 I'd encourage folks to take a moment and back Julie Pickering in Texas and Abraham George, of course, and Mary Castle, because the fight in the educational system is everything.

00:50:32.920 This is a war for civilization, and that's a war of ideas.

00:50:38.100 And so the textbook, Texas social studies textbooks are absolutely essential for ensuring pro-Western ideas are sustained in the United States from the assault that they're under from, of course, the hardcore Leninist left that we have in the U.S.

00:50:59.040 So back Julie Pickering, obviously Abraham George, Mary Castle in their fight to keep an educational system, an American educational system.

00:51:10.980 It's amazing.

00:51:12.180 By the way, I got to say, can we get a full shot of Dr. Thayer?

00:51:16.620 After, I don't know, it seems like years of working on this, we finally have the background I've requested.

00:51:23.960 We have the beautiful map of China.

00:51:25.800 But what I love, and this is what an original gangster you are, the map that you have when you blow up the thing, it's got Peking in there with Beijing underneath.

00:51:34.640 What is the symbolism that Dr. Thayer is sending when he has that map in back of his server, particularly the blow up that calls it by the old school name?

00:51:46.320 Well, I'll leave that to the audience, even to you, to interpret.

00:51:50.140 But thank you for moving me after years.

00:51:54.980 After years.

00:51:55.800 of steady resistance uh to uh if i can only if i can only if i can only get mo if i can only get

00:52:02.860 mo to do it dr thayer thank you so much love love the background china will be free again steve 0.76

00:52:08.840 some point some point soon take down take down the ccp let's get back to peking 0.68

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Bannon's War Room - June 17, 2026

Episode 5451： Breaking Down The Iran Deal

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