Bannon's War Room - Episode 5453： Next Steps In The War With Iran; Social Justice Children's Camp

00:00:00.000 Do we have any clarity on when the deal will be signed, when the memorandum is going to borrow, maybe Friday?

00:00:04.900 Over the next, I'd say 48 hours.

00:00:06.100 48 hours, and 50 bands in...

00:00:08.220 I'd say 48 hours.

00:00:09.320 Is it still in Geneva?

00:00:10.660 We haven't determined yet. It's in final form, we haven't determined yet.

00:00:14.980 You said you don't mind Iran having ballistic missiles. Can you elaborate on that? I want to make sure we understand your position.

00:00:21.440 No, I'm saying that if other countries have them, it's a little bit unfair for them not to have some.

00:00:27.180 a ballistic missile is not the same thing as what we're talking about when we talk nuclear

00:00:32.460 but if saudi arabia and qatar and they all have some i would say in relative proportion i think

00:00:40.040 it's okay that's what i mean it's there's no question in my mind that it's iran this isn't

00:00:44.760 it's again the united states and israel went to war with iran we hit them with our hardest punch

00:00:50.700 at least in terms of airstrikes. And Iran is leaving this with 60 days of no tolls on the

00:00:57.780 Strait of Hormuz. They actually there's room for them to have tolls in the strait. There's room for

00:01:03.180 them to have as many missiles as they want. There's no limit on that. There's no limit at all in the

00:01:07.500 proxies that they're funding around the region. And just the change in the president's tone where

00:01:12.140 he's like, you know, the Iranians are smart. They're good negotiators. There's this new

00:01:16.300 generation that's going to embrace trade and being part of the global economy that dropping

00:01:21.040 you know a billion dollars worth of bombs wasn't really didn't really do anything but what did was

00:01:25.160 this naval blockade and it doesn't sound like he wants to answer a question about israel

00:01:31.940 he said it

00:01:39.620 The Iran memorandum that says no use of force, but also no threat of a use of force.

00:01:48.320 It talks about bombing Iran if they didn't comply.

00:01:51.000 Is that a threat?

00:01:51.780 Would the Iranians see that as?

00:01:53.280 If they don't come through, is it a threat that we bomb? 0.99

00:01:59.480 You can call whatever you want, but it'll probably happen.

00:02:03.100 Thank you.

00:02:03.820 I will see you at Versailles, and you're going to go back and tell the New York Times.

00:02:08.640 you're going to change your whole way of life.

00:02:10.540 He had one very critical goal, 0.92

00:02:13.080 and that was to make clear that this agreement that he has reached with Iran

00:02:18.420 is different from that Obama-era Iran deal that he has been so critical of

00:02:22.920 and that this was a good agreement for the United States

00:02:25.980 and tried to convince the skeptical American public

00:02:28.920 that includes so many Republicans, as you just so clearly laid out.

00:02:32.920 The president said that this deal ensures that Iran will not procure

00:02:36.760 or produce a nuclear weapon. It says it will reopen the Strait of Hormuz, that critical oil

00:02:42.520 thoroughfare. He also defended the waivers that allow Iran to export oil, as well as a provision

00:02:49.040 that will have the U.S., along with regional partners, help develop a $300 billion economic

00:02:55.480 development and rebuilding fund for Iran. The president making clear, though it still remains

00:03:01.100 unclear exactly how this will work, that the U.S. will not be providing money directly there.

00:03:06.320 He also said that ending this conflict is going to avoid, very notably, in his words, economic catastrophe.

00:03:13.740 And he warned that that would have happened if this conflict kept on going, said he didn't want to be compared to Herbert Hoover.

00:03:20.860 Notably, that's the U.S. president who presided over the Great Depression.

00:03:25.280 Now, the president signed a hard copy of this agreement at the Palace of Versailles before traveling back to Washington.

00:03:31.820 And what's really unclear right now is whether the 60-day clock for the very challenging technical negotiations ahead is actually already started or if it will start later this week when Vice President J.D. Vance heads to Switzerland for a signing ceremony.

00:03:47.660 Now, meanwhile, the White House fielding all of this criticism. 1.00

00:03:50.980 And as you saw there, the president pushing back, saying that his critics were jealous or stupid. 1.00

00:03:57.700 Senator, are you OK with Iran having missiles? 1.00

00:04:01.820 You know, I'm hesitating. I'd prefer that they not. I certainly don't want them to have long distance missiles. I don't want them to have nuclear armed missiles. I would prefer they didn't. But I don't think that's the key issue here. I think that they have to be able to defend themselves. And I just kind of come back to the big picture here is that the Middle East countries like this agreement.

00:04:22.580 Do you think Iran needs to be able to defend itself? 0.81

00:04:25.140 I do. I think that they have to be able to defend themselves.

00:04:27.880 Otherwise, we turn this into a forever war.

00:04:30.480 You're never going to get them short of boots on the ground of surrendering everything,

00:04:35.460 an unconditional agreement, if you will.

00:04:38.360 But again, what I'm getting at here is this agreement has the support of most of the countries in the Middle East,

00:04:44.380 and I think that's going to give it more of a long-lasting relationship, a long-lasting success as well.

00:04:50.220 How does Israel react to this?

00:04:52.580 Not very well. I mean, if you were an Israeli listening to that, particularly the part about it's no big deal that Iran has missiles.

00:04:58.640 Sure, I have no problem. You know, look, Saudi Arabia gets missiles.

00:05:01.480 Well, that Hezbollah might fire a missile or two into Israel.

00:05:04.320 And again, just the numbers. I think there's a chance of trying to write this story, but some of these keeps happening, that Bibi Netanyahu will try to scuttle this deal somehow.

00:05:13.600 Yeah. You know, we'll continue the fighting in Lebanon. It's very clear another one for Iran.

00:05:18.420 This is a sea star that includes Lebanon and the withdrawal of Israeli troops. 0.98

00:05:22.580 That's a huge win for Iran. 0.92

00:05:24.400 So I could see a serious break with Bibi Netanyahu about this. 0.93

00:05:27.740 But if you're an Israeli, it's not there isn't even a nuclear deal here.

00:05:33.360 There's no agreement on the terms of what's going to happen to Iran's nuclear program.

00:05:37.200 I strongly disagree with something the president said today.

00:05:41.220 I heard him say one other time, too, which is.

00:05:44.440 If we hadn't attacked. Iran, Israel would not exist. 0.93

00:05:49.640 It would have been destroyed. That's simply not true.

00:05:52.580 It's simply not true.

00:05:55.600 For 12 days, Israel fought a year ago against the Iranian regime before we did.

00:06:07.400 Destroyed its ground-to-air missiles, destroyed its Soviet-slash-Russian radar systems,

00:06:16.620 destroyed much of its air force, destroyed much of any of its defenses.

00:06:22.580 for 12 days.

00:06:26.500 We went in on the 13th day 0.58

00:06:29.340 with our great bombers and those bombs 0.92

00:06:33.380 and we hit those nuclear sites. 0.94

00:06:37.820 But Israel has some very, very powerful weapons 0.71

00:06:40.880 that it has not used.

00:06:44.660 I don't know this firsthand.

00:06:45.900 Just go online and read about it.

00:06:49.580 It's a secret that's not so secretive.

00:06:52.580 And they've had him for decades.

00:06:57.100 Israel will survive.

00:07:00.180 Period.

00:07:04.340 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:07:09.640 Pray for our enemies.

00:07:11.640 Because we're going medieval on these people.

00:07:14.920 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:07:19.200 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:07:21.120 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:07:22.580 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

00:07:25.240 It's going to happen.

00:07:26.500 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:07:29.900 MAGA media.

00:07:31.260 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:07:36.660 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:07:40.460 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:07:46.620 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

00:07:52.580 Good morning, War Room Posse. It's Natalie Winters here. It's June 18th in the year of

00:07:58.600 our Lord, 2026. We have a packed show, as you can probably guess, not very long. Cold

00:08:04.900 open here in the, I guess I would say fog of war, but I guess maybe now it's the fog

00:08:10.120 of MOU. Even getting some of the clarifying text doesn't provide a lot of detail, but

00:08:18.140 who knows? We trust President Trump here, but we certainly want to get some answers.

00:08:22.140 That's why I want to bring on our first guest.

00:08:24.360 We've got Kurt Mills, who's going to break it down for us.

00:08:26.680 Then we'll get some Sam Faddis.

00:08:28.340 We've got a new break-in sub stack we're going to get into, too,

00:08:30.480 and the latest with the Chinese quest to embed themselves within our AI ecosystem here.

00:08:36.220 But, Kurt, I want to get your reactions to that cold open.

00:08:40.440 And just more broadly, I feel like I have you on all the time,

00:08:42.760 and I'm asking you where we stand in this.

00:08:44.980 But I think maybe this is the first time where we have a little more movement.

00:08:48.460 But I'm curious your thoughts.

00:08:49.900 yeah i mean look i think this isn't that complex uh the u.s and the islamic republic of iran have

00:08:56.780 come up to have come to an accommodation uh that i think will prevent the iranians from getting a

00:09:01.540 nuclear weapon reopen the strait of formuz and uh cool uh where i should say uh potentially spike

00:09:08.060 global markets and cool prices um i think this is a clear win for the administration a clear win

00:09:13.640 for president trump and his team and you know i think the people who don't like it are number one

00:09:18.840 hawks uh in the party that you know resisted trump's initial rise to power uh the sort of

00:09:24.480 never trump crusade uh you know iran has always been what they were about and that's not what

00:09:29.820 trump ran on in 2016 or 2024 particularly and secondarily israel which is a separate country

00:09:36.440 from the united states although sometimes it gets very difficult to decipher whether or not

00:09:42.040 the people who make these arguments actually believe that

00:09:44.320 i'm curious if you think the sort of singling it out to the neocon opposition to this the mark

00:09:52.100 levins who i thought your comment about his pin getting bigger and bigger every show is one of the

00:09:56.620 best uh assessments i've seen in the news lately but is this because these people just frankly get

00:10:02.220 off on the idea of iran sort of being our you know perennial almost existential threat obviously not

00:10:07.200 looking at china that way or is it because you think they actually have substantive critiques

00:10:11.900 with how the deal deals with Iran?

00:10:14.620 You know what I'm trying to say? 0.93

00:10:15.640 Is it more from a perspective of they just always want to have Iran 0.92

00:10:19.560 as sort of something they can milk for conflict, 0.72

00:10:21.600 maybe Israel would go more into that category,

00:10:23.480 or is it something that they have substantive critiques?

00:10:26.940 No, I don't think they, broadly speaking, have substantive critiques.

00:10:29.760 I think we've seen this sleight of hand again and again 0.91

00:10:32.460 where opponents of any accommodation with the Iranians will say,

00:10:37.020 oh, we have problems with Clause 1 or Clause 8,

00:10:39.320 or this isn't tough enough,

00:10:40.660 or all of a sudden we super care about ballistic missiles.

00:10:43.360 And then they'll reveal in any run-up to any kind of conflict with Iran

00:10:46.180 that they wanted war from the beginning. 0.89

00:10:48.820 And, like, look, that's fine.

00:10:49.980 This is democracy.

00:10:51.060 If you're an American citizen, if you want to make an argument for war, go for it.

00:10:56.780 But don't pretend like you just want a deal, you just want a little bit better deal. 0.98

00:11:01.140 This is what a deal with the Iranians basically looks like. 0.98

00:11:03.880 The Iranians get to run their own society. 0.97

00:11:05.820 The Iranians commit to nuclear non-proliferation. 0.83

00:11:09.300 And the Iranians, you know, engage in the global system insofar as it affects Americans.

00:11:14.880 And the reality is how, you know, what kind of government that Iran has is not any business of America.

00:11:22.240 It shouldn't be any more so than the type of government that is Rwanda or Congo or, you know, Belarus.

00:11:30.100 It just doesn't matter. And President Trump particularly, you know, ran on fixing problems at home.

00:11:36.860 And this is the ultimate distraction. 0.69

00:11:38.640 And on Iran particularly, it really is the sort of bogeyman or holy grail for a type of old guard hawk that is, yeah, pretty closely aligned with Israel. 0.61

00:11:49.840 Because as you correctly point out, if it was just about the power of potential foes for the United States, you know, China and Russia's power dwarfs Iran.

00:12:00.340 So it is very curious how the Reagan wing self-declared Republican Party is so obsessed with this.

00:12:06.760 no it's a maniacal obsession i think it probably register on the like dsm it's it's crazy um i'm

00:12:14.980 curious you use the word pretend right and there's a lot of i think foreign influence ops going around

00:12:20.180 a lot of people being paid to tweet things kind of interesting information warfare operations going

00:12:25.220 on i'm curious from your perspective as someone who has been in the middle east you know commentary

00:12:29.760 space for a while not just say you know newfound armchair expert like it seems like some of these

00:12:35.080 people on XR. What can you tell the audience about what they sort of need to look out for

00:12:39.200 or just what that ecosystem actually looks like in terms of, you know, certain American

00:12:43.300 voices being pushed to peddle talking points on behalf of foreign countries on both sides

00:12:48.300 to either sabotage or support the deal?

00:12:51.840 Yeah, I mean, look, you don't have to be focusing about bots or even media figures.

00:12:55.700 There are members of this administration. The ambassador to Israel, alleged so-called,

00:13:00.100 is really the ambassador from Israel. Mike Huckabee has been openly stating that Netanyahu

00:13:06.480 should potentially find ways to scupper the deal, that elements of the MOU are unacceptable.

00:13:12.080 Mike Huckabee works for the American people. He works for the president of the United States.

00:13:16.260 So this stuff is outrageous. It wouldn't be tolerated in any other country. This wouldn't

00:13:21.500 be tolerated with China. This wouldn't be tolerated with France. And to the point that 0.93

00:13:26.640 you were getting at about the information space. Yeah, I mean, look, it's oftentimes just not very

00:13:32.220 sophisticated. You can look at it online, and a lot of these people don't even have American flags

00:13:36.660 in their bios. They have foreign flags in their bios, or they have foreign flags first. And then

00:13:41.260 third, there's not even really an attempt oftentimes from what I'll call the Israel first crowd to even

00:13:46.840 argue with the American interests. They glide past it. They breeze past it. They take it as a

00:13:52.960 as a certitude that American interest is either secondary to Israeli national interest or is

00:13:59.940 identical. And of course, it's not. And of course, they'll technically maintain that there's any

00:14:03.740 difference. But when the rubber meets the road, when the prime minister's office in Jerusalem

00:14:09.860 or Tel Aviv doesn't want something, you can be pretty sure which side they're going to defer

00:14:15.320 to. And it's not the side of the United States, which is a scandal. These are supposed to be

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00:17:25.760 off-site wide through June 22nd. Welcome back to the War Room. Kurt Mills, before I let you go,

00:17:32.640 just give us your sort of broader, broadest assessment of what the posse needs to be

00:17:37.840 looking out for. I know there's a lot of kind of timelines and contingencies on this deal.

00:17:42.360 What do you think are the most important variables that we need to be tracking?

00:17:47.200 Well, I mean, as everyone knows, the president of the United States loves optics. So this

00:17:50.780 potential handshake with President Pajeskian, apparently, of Iran tomorrow with President

00:17:57.740 Trump in Switzerland will be, I think, one for the ages.

00:18:02.980 I think it will be important to see how it goes.

00:18:05.320 To my knowledge, I'm not sure the two men have ever met, let alone even spoke on the

00:18:09.580 phone, although that's always a bit murky, you know, how much contact there has been

00:18:14.200 between the White House and the Iranians.

00:18:15.620 And then from there, you know, I think the real timeline is set by the Israeli election in October, unfortunately, and whether or not Benjamin Netanyahu will try to get the United States back in the deal or to sabotage the deal.

00:18:29.240 Because unfortunately, as part of the deal, the U.S. has to constrain its partner or very junior partner, as I believe President Trump said yesterday.

00:18:39.540 And if Israel does go back into Lebanon, I think it could endanger the whole piece.

00:18:44.440 And so I think this summer is going to be pretty fraught on this.

00:18:48.300 And then the Iran hawks are already – the more sophisticated of them are already calling this – Iran fought this round, this round, implying that we need to go back later in 26 or 27.

00:19:00.740 And I think that's just unacceptable.

00:19:02.920 I think Donald Trump didn't change politics.

00:19:06.080 Donald Trump didn't become president of the United States twice over just to be bogged down in the Middle East.

00:19:12.980 He can focus on other things. I'm happy to talk about it. But as everyone is aware, this was not good for America. This was not good for him. It's time to to move on and move forward. And I think he's he's achieved a deal worth celebrating and a deal worth commending. And I think it's one that can protect Americans and move his administration beyond the morass of Hormuz. Thank you.

00:19:37.100 Kurt Mills, if people want to get the magazine, stay up to date with everything you got going on, where can they go to do that?

00:19:42.980 Yeah, the magazine is theamericanconservative.com, www.theamericanconservative.com. We were founded in 2002 by Pat Buchanan and others against the Iraq War. As you can tell, we're very much against this Iran war and for its end and for this deal. And my own commentary and work is at Kurt, at C-U-R-T-M-I-L-L-S on X. And, you know, you can find me on the Internet. Thank you.

00:20:06.320 thank you sir for joining us in war and posse i will give you a little reprieve from iran iran

00:20:14.780 iran i don't i don't know if i necessarily voted for such an iran focused news cycle

00:20:19.940 um but then again i don't think i voted for mark zuckerberg to be sitting ringside at ufc i thought

00:20:25.080 i voted for him to go to prison but i digress i've got a new sub stack up everybody should

00:20:30.260 read it you can subscribe it's free that's nataliegwinters.substack.com talking about

00:20:36.960 a little new thing called social justice summer camps uh and it's not as bad as it sounds it's

00:20:43.700 actually worse because they're actually paying kids in some cases hundreds of dollars as young

00:20:49.140 as middle school and high school to go to these extremely radical like color revolution inspired

00:20:55.100 programming, teaching them tactics, not just in protest. One of the classes is actually they

00:21:00.520 teach kids how to burn an effigy, burn things that they say represent oppression and burn them

00:21:06.320 an effigy. Or of course, there's the class, quote, loving your trans body. Yeah, that's happening, 0.99

00:21:13.780 I think, in Wisconsin. And of course, all of this goes on while they say they're challenging

00:21:18.420 white supremacy, the patriarchy and heteronormativity. But what gets really interesting,

00:21:23.840 and maybe we need J.D. Vance and his fraud task force to look into is one of the groups that is

00:21:28.800 sponsoring and has sort of come up with a template of these summer camps. It's called the Education

00:21:33.220 Justice Coalition. That's an oxymoron if I've ever heard. But that's based in Vermont, of course.

00:21:40.720 But they're actually funded by Vermont's Department of Health, if you can make that make sense.

00:21:45.700 They focus on training kids and identity, LGBTQIA plus rights, feminism, gun violence,

00:21:51.180 anti-racism, disability rights, lawmaking, and youth action, where they invite people from

00:21:55.820 Planned Parenthood to come and speak. In Wisconsin, Freedom Inc. has a freedom youth organizing camp

00:22:02.260 for only youth of color, ages 12 to 18. And there, kids would learn public speaking, door knocking,

00:22:10.880 canvassing, data analysis, and specifically to push the, quote, no cops in school campaign while

00:22:17.920 pushing their schools to divest from the police. But my personal favorite, and by that I mean

00:22:23.380 should probably see the feds like rate it today, is the Odyssey Teen Camp, which has programming

00:22:31.480 such as, quote, discuss protests, change the world, where they make signs. One of the example signs

00:22:38.260 is, I want to get this, right, quote, I get my cardio running away from heteronormativity.

00:22:44.320 I don't really know what that is

00:22:46.740 but this is my favorite quote

00:22:48.660 they came up with questions like

00:22:50.500 what if every family had good food on their table every night

00:22:52.900 what if I relied on my neighbors to look out for me

00:22:55.020 instead of the police

00:22:55.900 what if my college was free

00:22:57.520 what would it take for my trans and non-binary friends

00:23:00.200 to feel safe and happy in this world

00:23:02.000 their questions and ideas reminded me of something

00:23:04.200 my friend and co-counsel

00:23:05.420 co-counselor Georgios often said

00:23:08.080 while we're at camp

00:23:08.800 we are creating our own little utopia

00:23:12.460 let that sink in again middle school and high school kids are on the receiving end of this

00:23:17.880 and getting paid hundreds of dollars to attend I think another good one is effigy burning quote 0.95

00:23:23.540 this class uses a little witchcraft to bring catharsis we build cardboard representations

00:23:28.300 of oppressions and injustices and then burn them up in a campfire

00:23:32.600 this is certainly a different take on summer camp and like I said in some cases being funded

00:23:40.620 by state government, but being funded by, of course, all the weird shady left-wing

00:23:44.720 nonprofits that are part of their dark money network that I guess also happen to fund their

00:23:48.580 candidates here in Washington, D.C. Talk about depravity. And speaking of depravity, I think

00:23:55.480 that's probably a good word to describe how elections are run in Los Angeles and maybe Los

00:24:00.480 Angeles as a whole, but I'm optimistic. It's naturally beautiful. I hope we can save it. I

00:24:05.380 thought Spencer Pratt gave us a good chance, but of course the machine out there gives Chicago a

00:24:10.420 run for its money and doing what it does best, which is fix elections. Sam Fabbis, before we

00:24:15.320 get into all things Iran with you, I want to just give you a chance. I know you have some

00:24:19.040 thoughts, probably some great writing too on everything going on in LA, the mayoral race

00:24:23.940 there. Can you bring the audience up to speed with what's happening?

00:24:29.040 Right. By the way, I will not be attending either the effigy burning or the loving the

00:24:34.960 trans body seminars or whatever those were just for the record noted so just want everybody to

00:24:41.540 be clear uh look we there they just had what under california law is the primary for race for the

00:24:52.500 mayor of los angeles i i phrase it that way because they have what amounts to sort of a primary where

00:24:59.000 republicans and the democrats run together and then the top two finishers face off against

00:25:06.360 each other in the general in the fall so it's not two separate primaries as in most normal places

00:25:13.000 um the republican candidate was in second place clearly uh after after most of the votes had been

00:25:22.840 counted and then magically in the typical fashion people have gotten used to all of a sudden a whole 0.89

00:25:29.760 flood of votes appeared from nowhere and he was pushed out and this lady who's basically a

00:25:36.680 communist is now in second place so we will now have two two democrats two communists running

00:25:43.480 against each other in the fall and no republican candidate the real focus here is on how i mean

00:25:49.680 This obviously happened, no surprise, because of mail-in votes that flooded in by the tens of thousands.

00:25:54.600 And the real focus here is on what California law actually says in that regard.

00:25:58.800 And I'm not making this up, even though this is going to sound like science fiction.

00:26:03.160 You have a huge homeless population in Los Angeles.

00:26:06.140 If you say you're homeless, you have no fixed address, you can actually register to vote and just give a physical location where you crash at night.

00:26:13.620 You can literally say, I sleep at the bus stop at the corner of 1st and Main or whatever. 0.69

00:26:18.780 And that qualifies. Now, the mail won't be delivered to that location. So you are then allowed to specify any other address where you want your mail-in ballot to go. It doesn't necessarily have to have any connection to you as an individual. Typically, these are nonprofits in areas where the homeless congregate. Unlimited numbers of mail-in ballots can be all delivered to the same location.

00:26:43.280 If you then say you can't write, you don't actually have to sign your ballot.

00:26:48.960 You can literally mark an X like you're a pirate or something.

00:26:52.640 And it will be accepted.

00:26:54.260 And then it's supposed to be witnessed to your X or your dot or any figure, anything you want to scratch on it.

00:27:00.900 Witnessed by someone, but who then signs that they say, yeah, homeless Joe did this.

00:27:06.940 But the thing is, nobody verifies who that witness is, that they actually witnessed it.

00:27:14.820 There's no limit on how many ballots one individual can witness.

00:27:21.380 And in fact, there's no process to confirm that the witness even exists.

00:27:27.960 So if you add all of that up, what it means is you have ballots coming in with no signatures.

00:27:36.940 from an address which has no relation to the person who supposedly submitted it and there is

00:27:43.740 literally no process to certify that any of that is real on so obviously you can imagine the

00:27:52.140 potential for fraud here and in fact you don't have to imagine it because it's now been established

00:27:57.260 and there are multiple prosecutions underway and at least one guilty verdict in concerning people

00:28:03.180 who wander around Skid Row in Los Angeles or whatever their equivalent is and literally pay

00:28:08.860 people like five bucks a pop for their ballots and tell them how to fill them out so you have

00:28:15.740 who knows how many you know easy 100,000 people and you can just swing them to your candidate

00:28:21.660 however you want that's how the system works now. Sam if you can hang with us through the break it

00:28:27.900 It is the age-old paradigm of votes versus ballots, and there is a difference.

00:28:33.220 And I think the denominator of total votes cast is what matters more than the numerator,

00:28:37.300 because that's where they get you.

00:28:38.360 We'll get into more of that in Iran with Sam Faddis.

00:28:40.660 We're trying to stuff after the break.

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00:30:50.600 join. All right. It's all good. Denver or D.C. You never know where war is being produced out of.

00:30:57.940 I'll take the blame for that one. Sam Faddis. I want to pivot, although I am shocked at the

00:31:03.660 homeless, the homeless vote. Apparently you got it. You got to cater to the homeless constituency 1.00

00:31:07.760 when you're campaigning now, or we could just have election laws that resemble that of a first

00:31:12.060 world country. I don't know which will happen first. There's anything more you want to say

00:31:17.100 about the loopholes there, please. I'm sure the audience is on the edge of their seat and very

00:31:21.580 enraged. But let's pivot to Iran, too. We had Kurt Mills. He gave us his assessment. But 0.95

00:31:27.260 your thoughts on the MOU, where we stand? There's a lot of converging and conflicting timelines.

00:31:32.480 This isn't something that's happening overnight. What you think we need to be looking out for,

00:31:36.320 what we need to be tracking, all of that. Right. Well, I mean, look, as anybody who knows me knows,

00:31:46.040 i'm you know if i had been in a position to advise the president before this war started my

00:31:51.160 my advice would have been don't do this don't start this war this is a very bad idea uh and

00:31:58.120 if his determination was well we're gonna go i would have said well then don't do it this way

00:32:03.320 because this isn't gonna work i don't know who told you that bombing them uh for a week was

00:32:09.400 going to cause the regime to fall but they don't know either don't know anything about the regime

00:32:14.360 where they're lying to your face having said all of that we started the war we prosecuted it

00:32:20.680 i get it that we want it to be over me too

00:32:25.720 it's a bad deal and we are going to hand them a whole lot of money and we're going to lift

00:32:33.400 sanctions and allow them to make even more money selling oil and buying anything they want around

00:32:39.000 the planet the iranians are great people persian civilization great civilization the guys running

00:32:45.080 the place do not want coexistence they don't want to get along they want don't want us to

00:32:50.120 just leave them alone they want to set the middle east on fire they've been doing it for almost 50

00:32:55.400 years you're now going to give them the means to do that they have literally already publicly 0.69

00:33:01.640 announced that they intend to give a significant portion of the money they're going to get from 0.78

00:33:08.120 this deal to hezbollah so it can expand its fight against israel and setting the middle east on fire 0.53

00:33:15.560 they are making no secret about this they already have it characterized this war as the little jihad

00:33:22.680 and announced it is now time for the great jihad i wish that weren't true but that's who you're

00:33:29.800 talking about the guy the most powerful guy in iran right now is general vahidi who runs the

00:33:35.800 the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps. His whole life is the revolution. He's got a criminal

00:33:41.800 indictment against him for blowing up a Jewish center in Argentina and killing and wounding

00:33:47.220 hundreds of people. His whole gig when he ran Quds Force was terror, spreading terror attacks

00:33:54.220 around. That's who you're actually talking to, not more rational, moderate guys that learned

00:33:59.860 their lesson so you know what do i think i think this deal is not going to work it may fall apart

00:34:06.960 within a few days because the israelis will absolutely try to sabotage it no question

00:34:11.760 they're not leaving lebanon they're not going to abide by this or it may hang together for a little

00:34:17.320 while but then it's it's going to collapse and my fear is we're going to be right back in a war

00:34:24.540 with these guys only we will have given them the time and the cash to get a lot stronger and again

00:34:32.360 I wish all of that wasn't true I wish I could give you a different prognosis but that's where I think

00:34:37.780 we are yeah I don't know if they're more or less trustworthy than uh the PRC when it comes to

00:34:45.320 signing things like this and that's not a good counterpart uh to be compared to not the best

00:34:49.940 track record there. I'm curious though, you know, for instance, I have Kurt Mills on, I have you on

00:34:54.820 and we have the whole panoply of wonderful war room, you know, guests and everybody sort of has

00:35:00.000 a different view on it, but it seems like for very different reasons. So I'm curious how you view

00:35:06.080 sort of the legacy media's coverage of it because they seem semi-critical of it, but they're coming

00:35:11.580 at it from a very different vantage point. It's almost more like because it's Trump's deal,

00:35:15.400 Whereas you have substantive criticisms of it. How do you see the sort of information warfare landscape shaping up around the deal, whether that's, you know, foreign influence, just whether it's just, oh, it's Trump.

00:35:30.080 So we got to sabotage it. Do you think there's, you know, a solid case to be made in favor of it?

00:35:35.000 Or do you think that that's just, you know, the people who want to give Trump, you know, a pat on the back saying, oh, you know, you ended another war.

00:35:40.860 How do you sort of make sense of that?

00:35:43.340 Yeah, well, I think it's all of the above, right?

00:35:45.380 I mean, 100% people have their own agendas, and they tell you what fits with that agenda.

00:35:54.480 I mean, there are clearly the legacy media, the folks who just, no matter what Trump does, they're going to stick a knife in him.

00:36:00.440 So that's clear.

00:36:01.500 And there are clearly, as Kurt suggests, the guys who just can't start enough frigging wars, who just want, you know, the ultra neocons who just think we should be engaged in combat everywhere.

00:36:14.520 I note, by the way, that none of them ever show up in combat.

00:36:17.580 They don't, nor do they send their sons and daughters to die.

00:36:21.460 So I got no respect for those.

00:36:23.600 I mean, as I said, had I been in the mix to give a recommendation to the president before

00:36:30.380 he made this call, I would have said, do not, what you asking me, my opinion is do not do

00:36:35.980 this.

00:36:36.340 This is a very bad decision and it will not turn out the way people are claiming it will

00:36:42.480 turn out for you.

00:36:43.640 So don't open this can of worms.

00:36:45.480 Where I start to differ from the folks, where I clearly differ from the folks who just want

00:36:49.620 to walk away is we don't really have that option anymore, in my opinion. I mean, I don't have a

00:36:57.100 way back machine. I can't go back to where the call was made, but we did this. And there is not

00:37:04.720 a more moderate regime in Tehran. That is not true. They have not learned their lesson. And by

00:37:10.680 the way, they're not going to give up their nuclear weapons program. I mean, people need to understand

00:37:15.620 the Iranians maintain still their official position. There is not and never was a nuclear

00:37:21.480 weapons program. That's where we are. Now, we know that we have endless reams of information

00:37:28.440 to establish that that's a bald-faced lie and always has been. But that's who you're asking

00:37:34.080 to cooperate with getting rid of the nuclear weapons program are the guys who still don't

00:37:38.860 admit there ever was one or is one. So they're going to lead you around by the nose and take

00:37:45.020 you to sites that they'll allow you to see and hide stuff where they don't let you go we've played

00:37:50.460 this game for years so they're not cooperative that's not going to happen they're not they're

00:37:55.660 not walking away from ambitions that they still claim they don't have yeah and i think the the

00:38:01.620 evolution of warfare too right you see drones at the forefront it's it's not like uh the good old

00:38:07.620 days of of the g-watt right you can sort of have a sustained protracted prolonged form of kinetic

00:38:14.760 conflict, even if it's not necessarily coming from the regime itself, very easily for the 0.86

00:38:19.780 United States to get pulled back in in some capacity.

00:38:23.440 Sam, there's a lot.

00:38:24.940 The audience is going to be all over this.

00:38:26.640 If in the meantime, before we have you back on, if people want to follow you, get the

00:38:30.040 magazine, where can they go to do that?

00:38:32.080 Go to Substack and magazine at substack, A-N-D magazine dot substack dot com.

00:38:39.880 Thank you so much for joining us.

00:38:42.300 Thank you.

00:38:42.900 we're going to pivot a little bit you know it's not a war room show for not discussing

00:38:47.900 the chinese communist party with our next guest who has a really good name that the studio really

00:38:53.380 likes that is isaac stonefish um isaac i wanted to have you on there's a lot of consternation

00:39:01.200 going on right now about microsoft who i thought would have learned their lesson about collaborating

00:39:05.700 with the prc after it was exposed that they were what having like weird people in china running

00:39:11.620 the programs that they were doing for the Pentagon, something going on there. And I think

00:39:14.880 they sort of got a slap on the wrist, to say the least. But now they're considering embedding

00:39:19.280 Chinese AI by the name of DeepSeek into some of their platforms, their products. I'm curious,

00:39:27.240 can you sort of walk the audience through what this, what the threat is, both from just a

00:39:33.240 Microsoft perspective, but more broadly, Chinese AI operating here in the United States or normalizing

00:39:39.320 it. So like so many companies, Microsoft for a long time has invested pretty deeply in China

00:39:45.740 and partnered with Chinese Communist Party entities. That was the norm until about 10 years

00:39:51.540 ago. The world has shifted. The party has gotten a lot more threatening to the United States,

00:39:55.960 but still a lot of American companies have these legacy partnerships and are even considering new

00:40:00.860 ones. And so Microsoft is considering integrating DeepSeek, which is a Chinese AI national champion,

00:40:06.640 into some of its products in the United States to save money.

00:40:10.040 It's a cheaper alternative.

00:40:11.520 But from a data security perspective, from a corporate capture perspective,

00:40:15.060 there's a lot of very real risks, not only for U.S. consumers,

00:40:18.700 but also for Microsoft, the company itself.

00:40:22.120 And can you talk a little bit about this idea of, you know,

00:40:25.580 American companies that are actively working with the Pentagon while also having,

00:40:29.440 it doesn't even seem like it's backdoor access with Chinese companies.

00:40:32.440 It's explicit collaboration.

00:40:34.220 I know Microsoft has a long track record of doing that.

00:40:36.840 I believe they actually built Windows 10 China Government Edition that the CCP operates basically their administration off of.

00:40:44.620 But but what is what is that thought more broadly and what should the Pentagon be doing about this?

00:40:49.860 It's front door access. So many large companies, you know, we mentioned Microsoft, but also a lot of the defense primes have direct relationships with the Chinese Communist Party and have joint ventures with Communist Party entities.

00:41:01.920 One of them even has joint ventures with sanctioned entities.

00:41:06.160 And the sense was, oh, well, we have to, you know, friends close, enemies closer.

00:41:11.060 But that thinking doesn't really last anymore. 0.57

00:41:14.420 And I'm hopeful that this Pentagon is going to be a lot more critical to defense primes and to companies like Microsoft and Apple and Amazon that both work with the DOW and have pretty decently close ties with the Chinese Communist Party.

00:41:31.020 Both Washington and Beijing wants companies to choose sides. 0.78

00:41:35.320 And American companies, we do really hope, will lean more to the U.S. side than the Chinese side.

00:41:42.680 And that's what really pisses me off, right? 0.87

00:41:44.380 It's like all these, you know, our betters, right, the elites, these companies who think they know how to wage war are literally collaborating with our existential threat who one day we will see on the battle.

00:41:53.640 maybe kinetically, maybe not more dependent on, you know, if they choose to closely adhere to

00:41:58.660 unrestricted warfare and everything laid out in that. I'm curious. I'm sure it's on the kind of

00:42:03.220 forefront of the audience watching right now, their minds. How is this even legal? Right. How

00:42:08.120 is it even possible for Chinese, even whether it's Article seven and it's vaguely CCP veiled or 0.97

00:42:14.500 whatever, but these explicitly Chinese owned companies, how can they even collaborate with

00:42:18.540 American defense companies? I mean, it's asinine. It's absurd. It's such a great question. And 0.97

00:42:25.220 really what it is, is the laws haven't caught up to the reality. And we saw that with TikTok as

00:42:29.060 well. And on social media, it was laws restricting foreign ownership didn't apply to social media.

00:42:35.020 So you had TikTok grow there. I also want to talk about what happened recently with

00:42:39.540 BIS and Arm of Commerce, which decided not to go after DeepSeek, which decided not to go after a

00:42:45.500 company called CXMT, which is a very large Chinese memory maker. And the problem is folks see memory

00:42:52.760 chips as just some sort of commodity and don't realize that CXMT has very serious ties to the

00:42:58.580 Chinese Communist Party. And allowing companies like that to thrive in the United States does

00:43:03.340 raise very serious national security questions. Isaac, if you can hang with us through the break,

00:43:09.180 I want to get on to some concerning things the PRC is doing with regard to the Philippines.

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00:45:40.100 You know, I was just thinking about what Isaac was talking about, how it's legal just because, you know, legislation hasn't caught up.

00:45:46.100 That's certainly part of it, but also the lobbying apparatus with which the Chinese Communist Party has here in Washington, D.C.

00:45:51.900 I should say the du jour, not the people who are being blackmailed, paid off, or their spouses

00:45:57.840 suddenly, you know, end up on the payroll of a Chinese company. But it's so massive. I'm talking

00:46:02.420 hundreds, hundreds of companies, whether it's the Chinese government itself, retaining K Street

00:46:07.800 lobbyists here in Washington, D.C., or these weird proxies working with all of the same lobbying

00:46:13.040 firms that these huge Western tech companies, basically all these companies work with. It's

00:46:18.760 really concerning. There's over, I think, a thousand active or so, or since the inception

00:46:23.880 of FARA, foreign lobbyists, and over a quarter of those are actually operating on behalf of China.

00:46:30.060 Like I said, some of them are explicitly on behalf of Chinese provinces, municipal governments,

00:46:34.480 the government or an embassy itself. But a lot of these for companies, even our companies,

00:46:38.920 I remember back in Trump One, when they released a list of around 20 or so companies designating

00:46:44.340 them as proxies of the Chinese military, adding them to the entity list. Over a quarter of them

00:46:50.860 had active representation from D.C.-based lobbying firms. Again, the real kicker is that most of the

00:46:57.800 people who are representing these firms, making sure that they can, I don't know, still be allowed

00:47:02.420 to work with companies contracting with the Pentagon, make that make sense? You know, these

00:47:06.600 are people whose salaries you used to pay, whether they were working in the White House, probably

00:47:11.540 or Joe Biden or Obama, or these are people who are working on the Hill, right? It's the revolving

00:47:16.840 door, but it's much more sinister than that. I think that's quite euphemistic. It's strangling

00:47:21.180 us with our own systems. You can't credit me for coming up with that. That's the Chinese

00:47:25.640 Communist Party in their own warfare strategy. Isaac, you were talking about how, and what is,

00:47:32.760 I think, maybe the first time this has happened in the Philippines, the Chinese Communist Party

00:47:40.140 kind of reprimanded a foreign minister there for, you know, improper remarks. They've done it with

00:47:47.500 Taiwan, but this is the first time that they've done it with another country. Can you walk the

00:47:51.240 audience through the kind of escalation there and what that means? Beijing has sanctioned a minister

00:47:57.240 in the Filipino government. Philippines is a U.S. treaty ally, meaning that the U.S. is bound to

00:48:03.040 defend the Philippines. And Beijing is very much increasing its pressure into the Philippines in

00:48:09.420 the South Sea. Part of this is a way to keep Taiwan and Japan off balance. Part of it is

00:48:15.860 its territorial disputes with the Philippines directly. And part of it is it's sending out 0.99

00:48:21.760 these signals and seeing, will the U.S. respond? It's constantly pushing against U.S. friends and

00:48:27.580 allies globally. And it's wondering, how is the United States going to respond? Are they going

00:48:32.400 to respond with resolve, or are they going to back down and let Beijing push more?

00:48:38.300 Isaac, if people want to follow you, you do really great niche China reporting. I would say there are

00:48:43.880 very few people who cover China who have not been co-opted by the United Front Work Department or

00:48:48.860 various Chinese front groups. You are one of them. Where can people go to follow you and read your

00:48:55.280 work? Thank you. So they can follow our company, Strategy Risks, a business intelligence firm which

00:49:00.520 focuses on this. Follow us on Twitter, Isaac Stonefish and LinkedIn and actually have a series

00:49:08.140 of reports coming out pretty soon, one next week on American universities and their ties to the

00:49:13.180 Chinese Communist Party. So more on that soon. Well, I think that might be what, like a 10 or

00:49:19.080 100,000 page report because there's a lot to go on there. It's a lot there. Thank you. We'll have

00:49:25.240 to have you back on to dig into that uh warren posse some programming notes the studio is very

00:49:31.540 keen that i tell you to this or tell you about this because you got to watch all of it maybe

00:49:36.380 you got to have double screens up i don't know how you got to figure it out steve don't worry

00:49:40.820 is going to be taking over at 11 he has a wonderful sit down with tj harker they're going to get into

00:49:46.680 some stuff you can't miss and then on rav's social media channels you can take your pick are we still

00:49:52.960 on getter i think we're still on getter twitter i guess we call that x i call it twitter uh all

00:49:58.560 the things instagram i think are we still banned on facebook i don't know that's maybe the nice

00:50:02.900 thing we get to save time because we're banned on so many platforms so we can only go to certain

00:50:07.480 places definitely not youtube or maybe i think rav is on youtube but war room's banned uh you

00:50:12.820 can watch it there jd vance is going to be doing a briefing at 11 uh so like i said you can choose

00:50:18.260 war room or jd i won't be personally offended if you choose the latter but steve has a wonderful

00:50:22.280 interview um and of course it would not be a war room episode without the one and only

00:50:28.380 mike lindell who i hear is pulling number one because of course mike you've got a few minutes

00:50:33.760 give us the latest on all things your race but also you know the posse wants to hear about

00:50:38.700 the deals okay and they and by the way you guys can always see steve's show on lindell tv.com too

00:50:45.360 So you can see we're on every single day.

00:50:50.360 So you guys, yes, I'm polling number one in Minnesota, running for governor.

00:50:54.540 This is a big poll.

00:50:56.140 This was done by ABC, our local KSTP, and they are shocked.

00:51:01.620 They don't know what to do with it.

00:51:02.820 And I'm leaning by a lot. 0.99

00:51:04.060 I think it's five points over the next closest is Lisa Damon.

00:51:08.440 and uh and we've and we've just begun to do um all the we're going to be doing four or five

00:51:14.680 events a day that's yesterday we just did a huge parade uh we gave out um 2500 2500 pillows um

00:51:23.200 threw out to little kids it was a great we had a big float but uh you guys check this out the

00:51:28.440 only thing i need that says right in the right in the poll that is uh is funding if you go to

00:51:33.640 Lindell TV, or I mean, LindellGov.com or MikeLindellGov.com.

00:51:38.620 You guys, you can check it out there.

00:51:40.580 I have my new Lieutenant Governor, Philip Parrish, that is absolutely amazing.

00:51:45.080 He's one of the first ones that reported fraud here in Minnesota.

00:51:48.640 So we are going to fight through and win this.

00:51:51.080 And Minnesota is the tip of the spear for so many things. 1.00

00:51:53.920 We need to ban Sharia law, amongst other things. 0.99

00:51:55.980 But in the meantime, War Room Posse, we started our new sale today, 1.00

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00:53:16.120 MyPillow has no Chinese AI, no DeepSeek embedded in their stuff.

00:53:22.720 Make sure you're checking out nataliegwinters.substack.com 0.57

00:53:25.560 and watch the next Hour of War Room with Steve.

00:53:27.880 Thanks for hanging with me.

00:53:29.000 Have a good one.

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