Bannon's War Room - Episode 5454： American Scapegoat： How A Corrupt Justice System Sacrificed Derek Chauvin To The Mob

00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on

00:00:11.180 these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have

00:00:17.780 had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything

00:00:21.540 in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do

00:00:24.920 people like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these

00:00:32.640 people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer

00:00:39.600 is to save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k band

00:00:48.080 okay welcome back um this we're doing this now because it's very important for us i think to

00:01:01.680 understand what happened a while ago a couple years ago because i think we have every possibility

00:01:09.480 of having another summer of love like we had back in 2020 particularly if as the the um

00:01:18.060 Progressive left and the Marxist-jihadist merger, the Red-Green Alliance, their response to us taking back the sovereignty of our country and that being predicated upon, gets what, wait for it, mass deportations.

00:01:32.700 You saw what happened in Los Angeles at the beginning of President Trump's second term.

00:01:36.780 You then saw Minneapolis.

00:01:39.120 As you know, we're huge believers in Bovino and we're huge believers in mass deportations and this thing.

00:01:45.460 And when I hear all these people whining about FISA and they want to do this, and they're so concerned about national security, that's all a lie, a bald-faced lie.

00:01:51.840 If they don't support mass deportations, and since none of them support mass deportations, it's a bald-faced lie.

00:01:57.840 So what are we going to do?

00:01:59.220 We're going to go back in time, and we're going to break down and get the facts and understand how something, a seminal event in American history happened.

00:02:06.400 and to make sure we know the component pieces of that so we can assure if we can't guarantee it'll

00:02:13.160 never happen again, but at least we'll be ahead of the curve and up the learning curve on what

00:02:17.200 went down and that we can stop it from ever happening again. I want to bring in the author

00:02:22.100 T.J. Harker, the book American Scapegoat. To say this book's controversial, it's going to be,

00:02:29.320 and it's not coming out, the publishing date's not to October, but I want people

00:02:33.180 to get to know Harker. I want him to get to know the publisher that's putting the book out. Most

00:02:38.400 importantly, I want him to go know the facts. And really, it's kind of like Thomas Kuhn's,

00:02:43.060 The Structure of Scientific Revolutions. This is about information warfare at its highest degree.

00:02:52.620 And T.J. Harker teaches a master class in how you break it apart and really get to the facts.

00:02:56.860 T.J., thank you so much for doing this. First thing I want to do is give your bona fides.

00:03:02.380 You're not some blogger.

00:03:04.260 And there are a lot of great bloggers out there.

00:03:05.840 And this one had a lot of great people putting out information.

00:03:08.060 But you professionally come at this from a very different angle, this case.

00:03:12.380 This is about the George Floyd situation, the summer of love of 2020.

00:03:17.500 You're professionally, you come at this as a professional.

00:03:20.040 And I want you to just walk through your bona fides first and why you even got interested in going after this situation, sir.

00:03:28.580 Yeah, thanks for having me, Steve.

00:03:30.060 And I appreciate that.

00:03:30.920 No, you're exactly right. So I'm not just some guy with an opinion. In fact, I would say I didn't have a strong opinion at the beginning of this case. I learned about it the same way that all Americans did by watching that four-minute Darnella Frazier video that was on Facebook. But you're right. I do have different bona fides than most people.

00:03:50.380 But hang on a second. Hang on. Before you give the bona fides, I want to I want to just say when you first saw this, you didn't come at this from any kind of angle of attack.

00:03:59.160 You weren't somehow knew about situations like this or you came at this and heard about it like most Americans.

00:04:04.620 You saw that video and you saw it played nonstop on CNN and MSNBC.

00:04:09.620 But you had no dog in this fight, no preconception of this, correct?

00:04:14.740 No, that's exactly correct. In fact, I saw the video for the first time on public news, public TV.

00:04:20.380 in the United States Attorney's Office.

00:04:22.740 So coincidentally, I just happened to be at work during a lunch break watching this video

00:04:27.520 sort of navigate the globe at the speed of ideology, as I like to say.

00:04:30.940 But no, you're correct.

00:04:31.960 I had no direct knowledge of the case at the time.

00:04:34.780 I came about it just like everybody else did.

00:04:38.060 So walk us through your journey.

00:04:39.760 Walk us through your background, why you're sitting in the U.S. Attorney's Office.

00:04:43.420 As a U.S. Attorney, you see this.

00:04:45.860 And then how do we get to this point?

00:04:47.400 What's your background?

00:04:48.040 and how do we, how do we, how do we arrive here on the war room? Yeah. So, you know, I'm an attorney,

00:04:55.060 I've been an attorney for 20 years, and I spent a little more than 11 of those years, first as a

00:04:59.240 state and then as a federal prosecutor, where I handled some of the nation's largest federal

00:05:04.540 fraud and espionage cases. In fact, in 2021, I've tried the two largest United States criminal cases

00:05:11.960 or federal criminal cases in the country. I mentioned the word federal there because there

00:05:16.660 was a larger case in the country in 2021 that was the state trial of Derek Chauvin. But I have

00:05:22.480 extensive experience trying complex frauds, investigating large criminal frauds and other

00:05:27.420 matters at the United States level. Before that, I was a state prosecutor where I handled other

00:05:31.960 types of crimes and also did what are called use of force reviews, which is relevant to the Chauvin

00:05:37.160 case. And then in May of 2020, George Floyd died on May 25th, 2020. Hang on one second. I just

00:05:45.560 want to make sure the audience gets this because we're going to have you on a lot between now and

00:05:50.220 the time the book comes out. What is it that drives somebody? I tell folks, I was thinking

00:05:57.860 about going to law school and I went to business school and I kind of looked and saw what these

00:06:00.720 guys have to do. They're all number one in their class the whole way through. They aced the law

00:06:04.440 boards. You go to a good school. But it's a grind. And then you see when you come out on the other

00:06:08.160 side, particularly securities lawyers or guys I worked with when I was at Goldman, it's just such

00:06:12.680 a grind. It's so hard. After going through law school and doing all that and getting the grades

00:06:18.480 to go, what draws someone to go be a prosecutor? Because by definition, you're not going to be

00:06:23.960 paid anything, right? And it's those times in your life when you really got to start thinking

00:06:28.900 about building a career and how am I going to build some wealth and take care of our family

00:06:31.940 and all that. So it is a real service, almost a quick kin to going into the military. It's not

00:06:39.360 quite, but you're giving up a lot. What draws someone and what drew you to go do that?

00:06:45.460 Yeah, that's a great question. I'll tell you that being a prosecutor was absolutely the best

00:06:49.380 job that I've ever had. It's incredibly exciting. And if you like what I call argumentation and

00:06:56.140 effective reasoning, if you like being able to persuade people by appealing to their highest

00:07:01.140 faculties, their ability to reason and connect intellectual dots, by speaking to them on the

00:07:07.360 level that they comprehend, then it's a job for you.

00:07:10.480 Courtroom performances, oral argument, speaking to a jury, doing opening and closing statements,

00:07:16.440 investigating a case in the months leading up to trial.

00:07:19.400 It's just a great, it's just a very interesting and exciting job.

00:07:22.700 And for those people who like appearing in public and using their highest God-given faculties,

00:07:28.180 reasoning and so forth, it is a great calling.

00:07:31.200 And as you said, it is not the same thing as being in the military, but it is about

00:07:35.100 the closest thing that you can do in a sort of professional white collar occupation, for lack of

00:07:39.720 a better term. So he had been state. What's the difference? Tell the audience, what's the difference

00:07:44.660 between being a state prosecutor and then going to be a federal prosecutor, an assistant U.S.

00:07:49.640 attorney or one of the prosecutors in a federal office, sir? Yes. So the every jurisdiction in

00:07:57.780 the United States has what are called local prosecutors. Those are your city and sometimes

00:08:02.780 county prosecutors. They're also called district attorneys. Those people handle the vast majority

00:08:08.700 of felony convictions every year. Every year in the United States, there are several million

00:08:12.800 felony convictions, and the vast majority of those are handled by local prosecutors.

00:08:18.360 At the step above that, there's what are called the attorney general's offices, the state attorney

00:08:22.460 general's offices. I was a deputy attorney general for the state of New Jersey. That's

00:08:27.340 sort of like you handle crimes that are more widespread than, say, a local city.

00:08:31.880 They might be complex, organized crimes that cover multiple cities within the state or

00:08:36.400 multiple counties within a state.

00:08:38.260 They have some greater complexity, typically, and so forth.

00:08:41.880 And then at the highest level-

00:08:43.100 In Jersey, for all those that watch The Sopranos, certain sections of Jersey, you have those

00:08:48.260 quote-unquote complex cases that you have to work on, right?

00:08:52.880 Yeah.

00:08:53.500 Suffice it to say, New Jersey never lacked for work.

00:08:56.400 for prosecutors, whether you're at the state, local, or federal level. There was a ton of

00:09:02.020 organized crime that was very sophisticated, Russian organized crime, various other ethnicities

00:09:07.360 and so forth. There was also healthcare fraud, insurance fraud, securities fraud, mortgage fraud,

00:09:12.120 organized car theft rings. You name it, and it exists in New Jersey. That is a great battleground

00:09:18.560 or testing ground for becoming a federal prosecutor, where the federal prosecutors,

00:09:23.380 the difference is you have nationwide jurisdiction. That's the first difference.

00:09:28.020 And the second thing is there is only some overlap with local crimes. So, you know, for example,

00:09:34.580 most rapes and robberies are going to be prosecuted by a local DA. But if it involves organized drug

00:09:41.080 trafficking, a murder involved in organized drug trafficking, like the cartels, or if it's a

00:09:45.920 national or interstate fraud, or if there's an espionage, then that sort of complex crime is

00:09:51.340 ultimately going to be prosecuted by the United States Attorney's Offices, which are part of the

00:09:55.600 Department of Justice. And the United States Attorney's Offices are scattered around the

00:09:59.820 United States and in all the states in the country. So what was your segue? How did you

00:10:04.880 segue and become a federal prosecutor? And where did you go? And what did you focus on?

00:10:09.660 Yeah, so I had a specialty, I worked when I was straight out of law school, I had a work,

00:10:13.700 I had experience in financial crime, excuse me, in financial matters, I worked

00:10:17.420 in some of the big New York-based law firms handling complex financial transactions.

00:10:23.420 And that gave me an edge up in investigating and prosecuting white-collar fraud.

00:10:28.880 So what happened was that the state of New Jersey, I said I handled some violent crimes.

00:10:33.480 I did some of that.

00:10:34.240 I did some use of force reviews.

00:10:36.260 But primarily, I was a white-collar prosecutor handling complex frauds.

00:10:40.560 These are the frauds where the defense attorneys are always the most well-paid big law firm

00:10:45.940 types. The defendants have lots of money, and they pay a lot of money. Oftentimes, you might

00:10:52.160 spend a year or two litigating a matter against somebody who stole $250, $300 million or more

00:10:58.840 through some complex scheme, and you've got to prove all that against some of the best

00:11:03.040 attorneys in the nation. That's what I did in the state of New Jersey. Then the, I'll call it,

00:11:08.920 for lack of a better term, the all-star league of that is at the United States attorneys level,

00:11:14.720 at the highest federal level. So if you, if you enjoy prosecuting complex crimes at the state

00:11:19.740 level, then you just get more of that at the federal level. And so when did you make that

00:11:25.960 transition? And where did you make it? So I made it back in 2016, from middle or early part of 2016,

00:11:34.320 I went to the United States Attorney's Office, which again, is part of the United States

00:11:38.780 Department of Justice. And specifically, I was located in what's called the Eastern District

00:11:42.880 of Tennessee, where, you know, there's an eastern district of Tennessee is where Chattanooga and

00:11:48.940 Knoxville are located and some other smaller cities in this area. It's east of Nashville

00:11:52.620 by about two hours. And that was during a Democratic administration. So you didn't go

00:11:59.340 into this as some MAGA warrior. You did this as a professional. It's a Democratic administration.

00:12:04.960 All the U.S. attorneys, there's 94 of them. Of course, there's blue slips. Our audience is

00:12:08.780 very familiar with that. But essentially, the president of the United States gets to pick his

00:12:12.960 attorney general, the DAG, the PDAG, all of it. But also, most importantly, the front line of all

00:12:19.320 that is the U.S. attorneys. And I think President Trump now has like 15 or 16 of the 94. So my

00:12:26.240 point is, you didn't go with any kind of political prejudice right out of the box. When you went to

00:12:30.560 be a U.S. attorney, you're just going to say, hey, look, whoever's the president is the president,

00:12:33.900 And I'm here to to basically run the bad guys. That's correct. I was not a political appointee.

00:12:40.700 The United States attorney in this district at the time was a Democrat. He hired me.

00:12:45.440 You know, my political views had nothing to do with the matter. I was simply one of the best white collar prosecutors in the nation, which I then proved at the United States attorney's office when I made those two large cases several years later and actually ended up winning a national case of the year award.

00:13:00.560 So if you enjoy getting really far into the details on complex evidentiary issues, if you enjoy putting and solving complex puzzles, if you enjoy understanding where the evidence leads, then complex crime is where it's at.

00:13:17.380 Like I said, it's extremely interesting. You encounter some of the most intriguing individuals you can possibly imagine, and prosecuting those crimes at the United States Attorney's Office is the pinnacle of achievement when it comes to being a prosecutor.

00:13:31.580 But you are correct. There was no political involvement in the matter. I have my own political priors on a variety of issues, but they didn't go into my job when I was a state prosecutor.

00:13:41.000 They did not affect my job when I was a federal prosecutor.

00:13:43.800 That did not affect my hiring at either the state or the federal level.

00:13:47.060 And they did not go into my decision to write this book or even in the facts that I uncovered.

00:13:52.360 I simply pursued the facts where they led.

00:13:55.140 Okay, we're going to get into that.

00:13:56.400 Let's take a short commercial break.

00:13:57.500 T.J. Harker is our guest.

00:13:59.860 The book is American Scapegoat.

00:14:01.680 I can pretty much guarantee this will be one of the most controversial books

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00:14:18.280 And T.J. Harker is an extraordinary man.

00:14:20.840 We're going to get into all of that.

00:14:21.920 We're going to go back to May of 2020.

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00:16:44.760 I'm going to read you now. Welcome back. I'm going to read you now. One of the pull quotes for the book. That'll be on the cover of the book when it comes out.

00:16:57.900 May 2020, the summer of love commences with the death of George Floyd.

00:17:02.660 In his exhaustively researched account, former prosecutor T.J. Harker shows that Derek Chauvin is not only not guilty of the murder of Floyd, he argues Chauvin is affirmatively innocent.

00:17:15.460 Harker documents shocking stories of prosecutorial misconduct, witness coercion, suppression of evidence, political corruption, and sheer incompetence.

00:17:24.500 For those of us who saw through the media manipulation that sparked the summer of love, Harkert now provides an airtight case.

00:17:32.500 This is the definitive account of the trial that saw America burn.

00:17:37.540 It is a must read and a must share.

00:17:40.520 That is from Stephen K. Bannon.

00:17:42.700 This is an extraordinary, extraordinary book.

00:17:45.480 It will be among the most controversial books published.

00:17:48.600 It will come out.

00:17:49.900 Wait for it right before.

00:17:52.140 I think a week before the midterm elections.

00:17:54.140 But people will be talking about this book well in advance.

00:17:57.240 And that's one of the reasons I want to get T.J. up for really one of his first, if not his first interview.

00:18:01.740 T.J., May of 2020, you're in the U.S. attorney's office.

00:18:04.880 You're watching TV and you see, I guess, on PBS or whatever, the four minute video.

00:18:09.580 Talk and take us to that moment and start walking us through the case.

00:18:13.920 Yeah, thanks, Stephen.

00:18:15.920 So May 25th, 2020, George Floyd dies.

00:18:19.440 May 26th is the day I first see that video, just like almost everybody.

00:18:23.220 And, you know, one of the things that Americans need to realize is the video that they saw was really just the very tail end of that arrest.

00:18:32.080 And notwithstanding the fact that a lot of people think they know what happened from having seen that four minute video, really nothing of interest actually happens in that four minute video.

00:18:41.700 Nothing that was relevant to the cause of George Floyd's death.

00:18:44.960 Nothing that was relevant to understanding why it was that the police used the amount of force that they used, which was really quite little.

00:18:51.340 And in fact, nothing at all that's really relevant to the facts of the case.

00:18:54.540 But what did happen was two things were seen by America.

00:18:59.200 And then those two things that were seen were tied together in a media narrative that seemed

00:19:04.180 nicely packaged.

00:19:05.120 The first is that there seemed to be a white cop, that eternal symbol of American law and 0.95

00:19:12.140 order, kneeling on the neck of a black man. 0.96

00:19:15.660 And the second thing is that the black man was saying, I can't breathe.

00:19:18.680 And, you know, if you didn't know anything else about the facts of this case, well, the media tied it all together for you in a nice way by saying the knee on the neck was the cause of George Floyd's death. 0.53

00:19:30.380 But just hang on. But TJ, I just want to make sure that's what we did see.

00:19:36.160 I know not maybe editor, he saw part of it, but you did see a white police officer kneeling for it looks like a length of time.

00:19:43.200 I think the clip you're talking about is four minutes, and you did see George Floyd, I think a couple of times, kind of beseeching the cop, I can't breathe.

00:19:52.940 You agree that those are facts, correct?

00:19:57.300 Yeah, of course, they are facts.

00:19:58.660 In fact, George Floyd said, I can't breathe 27 of those times.

00:20:01.980 But without getting too far ahead of myself, let me just tell you that George Floyd said, I can't breathe eight of those 27 times before he was in the prone restraint on the ground, before Derek Chauvin had touched his neck, before anybody had touched him in the case of a few of those times.

00:20:17.800 The prosecution never had an explanation for why it was that George Floyd was complaining about an inability to breathe and had, in fact, said, I can't breathe eight times before he was in the prone restraint.

00:20:29.640 So, yes, the facts that you observed are correct.

00:20:33.240 The problem is that they don't actually amount to a causal explanation.

00:20:37.600 If you're a normal person, you can say, knee on the neck, man saying he can't breathe,

00:20:42.380 death was the result.

00:20:43.460 I guess that makes sense.

00:20:45.580 But the prosecutors have to go further than that when they're deciding whether or not

00:20:49.500 to charge the case.

00:20:50.380 They have to actually be able to explain, how is it that putting a knee on somebody's

00:20:56.340 neck would cause them to die?

00:20:57.980 and they're going to rely on what is called their chief medical examiner to explain to them how it

00:21:05.100 was that george floyd died on may 26 2020 that chief medical examiner the only person in this

00:21:11.680 entire case who ever conducted an autopsy whoever had factual hands-on experience hang on let me

00:21:18.640 let me slow slow down right there you've been a state prosecutor and you've been a federal

00:21:23.200 prosecutor. You just told me about there's two main or main felonies a year, right? A case like

00:21:29.160 this as witness would be a state level prosecutor. That would be the local Minneapolis or the section

00:21:35.920 of Minneapolis. Those would be either local or state prosecutors. The feds would have no role

00:21:41.100 in this at the time that we're in the first couple of days of trying to get this pulled together and

00:21:45.920 the evidence pulled together? Yeah, correct. In fact, 99 out of 100 times if somebody, you know,

00:21:52.240 a typical murder or a manslaughter case or even a case involving police death is going to be

00:21:58.560 handled by the local prosecutor's office not even the state attorney general's office and in this

00:22:03.520 case the the case was initially handled by what's called the hennepin county prosecutor hennepin

00:22:09.440 county attorney's office hennepin county is the county in which minneapolis is situated so they

00:22:14.640 were first responsible for handling the investigation of george floyd's death

00:22:19.720 And the chief medical officer would be from be a state level or local guy?

00:22:25.340 So the chief medical examiner in this case, that was a man named Dr. Andrew Baker with impeccable credentials.

00:22:32.800 He was the chief medical examiner for Hennepin County and several of the surrounding counties, which is a big position because, of course, Minneapolis is the biggest city in Minnesota.

00:22:41.940 And so Andrew Baker was responsible, not just for for the county folks and crimes in the county, but also for Minneapolis itself.

00:22:51.820 So walk me through it. He gets called in. He's competent. You say he's got a good record. So walk us through what happens.

00:22:57.800 Yes. So remember, if you if you're a prosecutor and you've got a murder case that you're considering bringing, the thing at the top of your mind is going to be two issues.

00:23:07.920 The first is, how did the decedent, that is the dead person, die?

00:23:12.340 What was the cause?

00:23:13.300 Let's call that causation.

00:23:15.480 The second thing that's on the top of your mind is what's called intent.

00:23:19.240 Everybody knows that if you didn't mean to do something here in America, the crime is

00:23:23.920 less serious than if you did.

00:23:25.260 If you have kids, you know what that's like.

00:23:27.220 Every kid will say, I didn't mean to do it.

00:23:29.160 And if you believe them, well, then it's harder to punish them.

00:23:31.680 So a prosecutor is always looking at cause or causation and intent.

00:23:35.700 And when it comes to causation, that is, how did the victim die? In this case, the prosecutor and in all similar cases is going to turn to their chief medical examiner and say, in this case, Dr. Baker, you've conducted the autopsy. You've written a detailed 13-page single-spaced report. Obviously, this is done in exacting and gruesome detail. How did George Floyd die?

00:23:59.680 And if this were not a politically charged case, the case would have ended at this moment.

00:24:05.180 And for what it's worth, and I'm sure we'll go into this, there were about seven events over the course of the ensuing 10 months when any prosecutor would have said, OK, this case is finished.

00:24:15.360 We obviously cannot prove causation, not only because it didn't happen the way we thought it happened, but it actually didn't happen at all the way that the prosecution alleged.

00:24:25.060 So Dr. Baker conducted this autopsy on May 26, 2020, the day after Floyd died.

00:24:30.980 And critically, he did not watch that video that Darnella Frazier, one of the witnesses, had recorded until after he had conducted the autopsy because he did not want to bias his conclusions.

00:24:43.360 And walk me through then. He delivers that to the local prosecutors.

00:24:47.620 What is that 13 page from the chief medical examination examiner say, sir?

00:24:53.760 Yeah, it says a lot. And so the first thing that it does is it conducted a detailed and it's really kind of gruesome analysis of George Floyd's body.

00:25:05.320 And it paid particular attention to evidence of disease. There was also a toxicology report that went into it that looked into the ingestion of various drugs.

00:25:13.720 There was a layer by layer dissection of the various layers of George Floyd's neck on the back and the front and so forth.

00:25:20.820 And what it did do was document in detail the bruises and the scratches, the damaged, broken bones and so forth, or wherever they occurred on George Floyd's body, but also what Dr. Baker called the so-called pertinent negatives, the absence of evidence where you would expect to see evidence if a particular theory of the cause of death was correct.

00:25:45.280 And so Dr. Baker found a number of pertinent negatives in the neck area of George Floyd.

00:25:52.200 Among others, he found no evidence of bruising in George Floyd's neck, even though there

00:25:56.960 was lots of bruises over George Floyd's body from the violent struggle that he was engaged

00:26:00.600 in elsewhere on his body.

00:26:02.400 He found no evidence of what are called petechiae, which are sort of like minor bruises, first

00:26:07.720 capillaries in the tissue of the neck.

00:26:09.280 he found no damage at all to the so-called laryngeal structures which are in the windpipe

00:26:15.460 hang on hang on and i'm gonna get we're gonna go to break here in a couple minutes but hang on

00:26:20.000 so my lion eyes i see the officer on this guy's neck is chauvin just a not a big guy is he a tiny

00:26:28.160 guy george george floyd looks like a a pulling guard or an offensive tackle i think he played

00:26:33.560 football when he was a kid. He's a big guy. You know, he's worked blue collar jobs, physical work.

00:26:40.600 Is Chauvin just too, I mean, you saw at the beginning, you see him on the neck and then

00:26:45.900 the doc comes back and the chief medical said there are no bruises, nothing. Well, we saw him

00:26:50.200 on the neck. Is that because Chauvin is just not that big? Is there's not that much mass on it or

00:26:55.200 he wasn't actually driving his knee into his neck, sir? Yeah, that's a good question. The first thing

00:27:01.320 is that you are correct. I think it will surprise a lot of your audience members to know that Derek

00:27:05.460 Chauvin was 140 pounds. So he's a small man. By comparison, George Floyd is 6'4", 230 plus pounds

00:27:13.120 of solid muscle, as you pointed out. He was more like a linebacker than an offensive tackle. He

00:27:19.220 was built like a rock. So Derek Chauvin was quite small. But as you'll see when we get into the

00:27:25.100 details, it wouldn't have mattered whether or not Derek Chauvin weighed 250 pounds. The fact is that

00:27:31.040 the prosecution's theory of the cause of death didn't make sense from the outset. And one of

00:27:36.240 the most important things that Dr. Baker told the prosecutors the day after Floyd died was that

00:27:41.420 there was no evidence of asphyxiation and that he did not think that Derek Chauvin's knee

00:27:48.580 was anywhere near the relevant, what are called the laryngeal structures in the neck. In other

00:27:53.880 words, he told the prosecution that George Floyd did not die of asphyxiation and he did tell them

00:27:58.680 how George Floyd died in his medical opinion.

00:28:00.940 Okay, hang on, I'm gonna get right to that.

00:28:04.520 Particularly the toxicology with Brother Floyd,

00:28:09.920 his situation.

00:28:11.800 Also remember at that time, the war room,

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00:28:26.280 But in May of 2020, it was on a full tear.

00:28:30.480 Remember, that was the 10 days to 12 days to flatten the curve or whatever we were doing back then.

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00:30:09.040 war room here's your host steven k bann

00:30:12.880 american scapegoat is the book the author's tj harker the press is a passage johnson kepperman

00:30:22.080 and the team over there. And like I said, this will be one of the most controversial books of

00:30:26.120 the year. We need to understand it because we cannot afford and we will

00:30:30.220 not tolerate another summer of love here in the United States of America under President Trump's

00:30:34.080 watch. TJ, we leave off with the

00:30:38.080 chief medical commissioner who tells the prosecutors he didn't die

00:30:42.160 by asphyxiation. He didn't die by

00:30:44.480 the knee and the neck. There's no evidence of that, of causation.

00:30:50.560 What does he tell them that he died from?

00:30:53.360 Yeah.

00:30:53.700 So it's a little complicated, the fact pattern here.

00:30:56.580 I want to tell your audience about three things that happened in May of 2020, from May 25th, when George Floyd died, until June 3rd, when the superseding, that is the second amended complaint, was brought against Derek Chauvin, as well as the other three officers, increasing the lead charge against Derek Chauvin to what's called second-degree felony murder.

00:31:18.220 So somehow between May 25th, 2020 and June 3rd, we went from no charges to third degree manslaughter and then up to second degree murder.

00:31:27.440 And so the first thing that you need your audience needs to know is that Dr. Andrew Baker conducted that autopsy and found no evidence of asphyxiation.

00:31:35.420 That was May 26th, 2020. He told the prosecutors that and some special agents via a web meeting.

00:31:42.920 The reason there was a web meeting between the special agents and the prosecutors and Dr. Baker was because, as you pointed out, it was the middle of COVID and they were, you know, everybody was afraid of, well, not everybody, but the prosecutors in Minnesota were apparently afraid of meeting with Dr. Baker in person.

00:31:58.720 So they met with him via Zoom. There's detailed prosecutors' notes, internal memos to file explaining what was said. And all of it has nothing to do with Derek Chauvin's knee. There are a variety of different things that Andrew Baker is exploring, including fentanyl toxicity, arteriosclerosis so severe that it was capable of causing sudden death and so forth.

00:32:19.280 Let's stop right there. It's May 26, 2020. I want you to remember that date. A couple years later,

00:32:26.440 after the original prosecutor on this case had been removed from the case for misconduct by

00:32:32.800 Judge Cahill, she ends up leaving the Hennepin County Attorney's Office and files a civil suit.

00:32:39.420 In that civil suit, which is unrelated to the case, she is deposed, meaning she gives a statement

00:32:44.280 under oath, and it results in a 300-page transcript. In that deposition, the questioner

00:32:51.520 asks this lead prosecutor, whose name is Amy Sweezy Tamburino, about the events of May 25th,

00:32:58.260 May 26th, May 27th of 2020. And she describes a situation that was chaotic. There was incredible

00:33:04.980 political pressure on the office and so forth. But then she also says the following, and I'm

00:33:09.900 going to get this as close as I can to the actual quote. Your audience can read it in the transcript.

00:33:14.280 She says that Dr. Baker called her. Remember, Dr. Baker did not watch the video before he

00:33:20.700 conducted the autopsy. He conducted the autopsy, found his preliminary findings, and then watched

00:33:26.620 the video. And then he contacted the prosecutor, this prosecutor who was later removed from the

00:33:31.700 case for misconduct. And he says, quote, Amy, what happens when the evidence does not line up

00:33:38.860 with the public narrative. This is the kind of case that ends careers. So I mentioned to your

00:33:46.160 audience earlier, there are a couple of events in this case, maybe six or seven of them, that would

00:33:50.520 cause any prosecutor's hair on the back of their neck to stand up and say, we're done. And this is

00:33:56.060 one of those moments. To a normal person, this might just seem scandalous. To a prosecutor,

00:34:01.540 if your lead witness, remember the chief medical examiner is supposed to be your lead trial witness,

00:34:06.940 has just given you what's called Brady material, meaning he's made a statement that tends to

00:34:13.360 exonerate Derek Chauvin. And he's done so in a way that is incredibly damning by saying that

00:34:19.480 basically what the public is saying has happened is not in fact what happened. And then added the

00:34:25.180 statement, this is the kind of case that ends careers. It puts a prosecutor in a terrible bind

00:34:30.940 because you cannot walk away from the statement. Here's the kicker. This statement appears never

00:34:36.280 to have been disclosed to the defense. If so, that is egregious prosecutorial misconduct. The

00:34:42.400 best explanation that I can think of for this is that because this particular prosecutor was

00:34:47.060 removed from the case, the new state prosecutors took over. Those are the people appointed by

00:34:51.980 Attorney General Keith Ellison. Perhaps this is the most charitable explanation. They never knew

00:34:57.300 about it. That doesn't excuse the Brady violation. It's still a Brady violation, whether they knew

00:35:02.140 about it or not, the statement has to be disclosed, but it at least has the generous benefit of not

00:35:07.300 impugning anybody's integrity. I want to make sure we get, I want to make sure we whet the

00:35:14.200 appetites for the audience to get the book. It's imperative you get the book and the book's not

00:35:18.260 out for a couple of months. So I don't want to give everything away because of what you've done.

00:35:22.400 However, just a couple of things that it wasn't disclosed at the time. We later have a very well

00:35:29.260 documented trial, did Dr. Baker, I mean, Dr. Baker seems to be one of the, as you make the

00:35:34.500 case in traditional thing with the chief medical examiner being the guy in his evidence, he's

00:35:39.640 central to everything, correct? He's absolutely a central character in this? Well, he was supposed

00:35:45.620 to be. And because he simply would not tow the prosecutor's line, there was another event,

00:35:51.060 by the way, in that week after May 25th that affected his ultimate findings. But all in,

00:35:57.600 Dr. Baker would simply not say what the prosecutors needed him to say, which is that Derek Chauvin

00:36:03.300 killed George Floyd via asphyxiation.

00:36:05.420 And I've alluded to, you know, you actually have to have a causal mechanism there.

00:36:09.760 He wouldn't say that.

00:36:10.960 And so that put the prosecution in a really odd position, which is they had to call their

00:36:16.220 chief medical examiner as a witness in the trial, but they also had to rebut their own

00:36:21.320 witness by calling other medical experts.

00:36:23.660 And these other medical experts testified, in essence, that Andrew Baker was wrong in reaching his conclusions. And it was very unusual situation because they tried to do it in the most polite way possible. After all, this is Andrew Baker at the time and still is a public official. He's a guy the prosecutors are going to have to work with on hundreds of cases a year. And he's still the chief medical examiner.

00:36:46.720 So he ended up being rebutted by the prosecution who had come to a different conclusion about how to exploit that.

00:36:54.100 Why didn't the defense lawyers make a big deal and flip him and get him to be a witness for the defense and in that find out that he told them – he told them in the beginning hours of this that, hey, your video doesn't match up with the facts.

00:37:08.380 I know what it looks like, but it's not the cause.

00:37:11.560 Why did they not use it?

00:37:12.400 Well, the defense attorney didn't know that.

00:37:15.080 Do what?

00:37:15.720 That specific quote that you mentioned, the one about the actual evidence doesn't line

00:37:20.260 up with the-

00:37:20.640 But wouldn't they have the ability, but hang on, wouldn't the defense have the ability

00:37:25.260 to call Baker in and ask him questions to see if they want to make him a witness for

00:37:31.340 the defense?

00:37:33.640 Yes, they would have.

00:37:34.660 And they did, of course, get to cross-examine him when he testified.

00:37:37.420 And when Baker testified, I think what happened here was that Eric Nelson, who was the attorney

00:37:43.300 for the defendant, didn't realize that Baker was actually going to be a friendly witness

00:37:48.660 for the defense.

00:37:50.660 He didn't understand that that was happening.

00:37:52.100 But wouldn't he, but wouldn't that, okay, but wouldn't that, when they're rebutting

00:37:55.860 the guy on the thing, doesn't the light bulb go off and say, hey, I think this guy, they're

00:37:59.820 trying to rebut him for a reason.

00:38:02.020 They're not backing him for a reason.

00:38:03.440 So this guy may be our best friend.

00:38:04.980 Did the defense attorney do that or is that just a miss?

00:38:08.660 So I think the answer is it was a miss, but let's put it in context.

00:38:13.300 The defense attorney, Eric Nelson, was one man. The prosecution had 28 attorneys.

00:38:20.880 These attorneys were brought in from the private sector. Two of the four lead prosecutors were

00:38:26.340 brought in from the private sector, and then two major law firms based in Washington, D.C.,

00:38:31.000 named Hogan Lovells and Ballard Spahr, but these are national law firms, big what are called Amlaw

00:38:35.360 100 firms, added another two dozen attorneys to the case. The prosecution just drowned the defense

00:38:42.220 in paperwork, motions, legal prep, interviewing witnesses, and so forth.

00:38:46.860 To give you an example of how outrageous the overmatch was,

00:38:51.440 the prosecution had 360 people on its witness list. 0.81

00:38:56.840 That is ridiculous, frankly.

00:38:59.920 Okay. Hang on for a second. 0.97

00:39:01.080 But the short answer to your question is it was a miss, but it was just overworked.

00:39:03.900 I hate to bring up a very sore subject, but it's got to be addressed.

00:39:08.420 The president of these United States at the time was a guy named Donald J. Trump.

00:39:13.020 They obviously used this, as we used to hammer every day, to get the summer love to burn it all down to force him from office.

00:39:20.480 It was the preamble to the big steal.

00:39:23.400 President Trump appointed the attorney general of these United States, Bill Barr.

00:39:28.080 If this thing is so obviously rigged and you can see when they issue the chief medical examiner's report shows specifically in the report that the Justice Department get a hold of that that didn't kill it, why didn't Barr or why didn't authorities, federal authorities, step in the middle of this and say, hang on for a second, let's get this, let's just figure out what's going on here.

00:39:52.720 Why did the Trump administration, and particularly Bill Barr, not get involved, engage in this obvious miscarriage of justice from the very beginning, sir?

00:40:02.500 Yeah, that's a good question.

00:40:03.940 So here's some more facts.

00:40:05.740 So remember, the death was May 2020, and the trial didn't start until March of 2021, at which point the Biden administration had been inaugurated.

00:40:14.060 And so from May of 2020 through the rest of that year, the federal government was investigating, even though there was this parallel state trial going on.

00:40:23.880 And in July of 2020, FBI agents and an assistant United States attorney from Minnesota, the same position that I was in in the Eastern District of Tennessee, met with Dr. Baker.

00:40:35.160 And during that meeting, the FBI took detailed notes and the assistant U.S. attorney was listening carefully to what Dr. Baker said.

00:40:42.740 The assistant U.S. attorney then called the county attorney, Hennepin County attorney, and spoke with a woman there named Beth Stack, and he told her that it was his understanding, meaning the assistant U.S. attorney's understanding, that based upon his meeting with Dr. Baker and these FBI agents, that Dr. Baker had told the federal government that nothing that happened on the ground was related to George Floyd's death.

00:41:09.420 That is that nothing that Derek Chauvin did while George Floyd was on the ground, that is during the video that everybody saw, had anything to do with George Floyd's death.

00:41:17.040 A month later, the county attorney writes a letter, this is the end of August of 2020, writes a detailed three-page letter to the assistant U.S. attorney basically saying, you're wrong.

00:41:28.960 You and all the FBI agents who were present misunderstood Dr. Baker.

00:41:33.420 He said that neck compression was related to George Floyd's death.

00:41:36.960 So there was this dispute going on behind. Hang on. Hang on. Is that is that is that a lie?

00:41:42.640 is well it's not uh is it a lie so the neck compression thing is complicated so let's let's

00:41:49.680 jump back to may 25th or may 26th dr baker conducts his autopsy his preliminary conclusion

00:41:56.300 is the following that derrick show or that george floyd died of something called

00:42:01.040 cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual and restraint so there's a lot of words

00:42:08.740 there. Cardiopulmonary arrest means that his heart and lungs stopped working. Complicating is just a

00:42:15.500 medical word for a while. And law enforcement's subdual and restraint is the rest of Dr. Baker's

00:42:22.240 initial thought. Hang on, hang on, hang on, slow down, slow down. Hang on for not, you're saying

00:42:27.040 the complicating is not because, that's not causative. It didn't cause the cardiopulmonary.

00:42:32.260 it was during the time of that, correct? Correct. It will, in the sense of,

00:42:39.640 you know, imagine that you had ridden a roller coaster and you have high, you say, let's say

00:42:43.920 you've got arteriosclerotic heart disease and you get on the roller coaster and you, your body

00:42:48.880 releases adrenaline. The adrenaline causes your blood vessels to constrict further. You've already

00:42:53.500 got severe arterial narrowing from your heart disease. And so you have a cardiac arrhythmia

00:42:58.200 heart attack on the roller coaster and you die. Would you say that the roller coaster caused you

00:43:03.920 to die or you died while you were on the roller coaster? What really happened is the adrenaline

00:43:08.380 caused your blood vessels to narrow further than you could tolerate. You didn't get enough oxygen

00:43:12.800 to your various organs and you died. So it depends what you mean by causation. But what Dr. Baker was

00:43:20.120 saying is medically, the struggle was not the cause of it. It was a contributing factor. The

00:43:25.160 struggle was a contributing factor because it caused George Floyd's heart rate to go up,

00:43:29.540 his blood vessels to narrow. But that was May 26th, 2020. Flash forward a week to June 3rd,

00:43:37.120 and the cause of death has been modified. It is no longer a cardiopulmonary error.

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00:45:36.440 So, Harker, you seem like a very, TJ seemed like a very pleasant individual, a nice young man,

00:45:42.660 as I say. The war, I can tell you right now, looking at the chat, people's heads are blowing

00:45:46.620 up. My blood pressure, and I try to keep it, you know, cool here until somebody hits my trigger

00:45:52.180 This is outrageous.

00:45:53.360 So walk me through what changed on the medical examiner, and then I've got to go back to

00:45:56.440 the feds.

00:45:56.920 I've got to go back to Bill Barr.

00:45:58.200 So what do you got for us?

00:45:59.060 How this thing changed from the 13-page report where Dr. Andrew Baker says it wasn't the

00:46:07.200 cause of death, sir.

00:46:09.520 Yeah.

00:46:09.880 So the cause of death initially does not include the phrase neck compression.

00:46:15.020 By the time Derek Chauvin is charged with second-degree felony murder, the phrase neck

00:46:19.500 compression is now in the cause of death, but it's still after that word complicating. So Dr. Baker

00:46:25.720 is not saying that it caused or was even related to George Floyd's death, but the words neck

00:46:31.180 compression are now there, and that's doing a lot of heavy lifting. So the question is, how did the

00:46:36.400 phrase and neck compression get into this cause of death? And without giving way of the full story

00:46:42.120 now, I'll tell you there were two events that happened. One was an event that led to four

00:46:46.740 prosecutors being removed from the case by Judge Cahill for misconduct. The second was an out-of-state

00:46:53.140 medical examiner, a man named Roger Mitchell, contacted Baker by phone and told him that if

00:46:59.320 neck compression wasn't in the diagnosis, Mitchell was going to write an op-ed critical

00:47:03.960 of Dr. Baker's findings and publish it in a Washington Post. Wow. We're going to get more

00:47:12.140 to this. Number one, where do they go to get the book right now? I want people to order the book.

00:47:17.320 I know it's not going to come out till October, although I would plead with Passage Media that

00:47:22.480 we got to publish this book sooner rather than later. Where do people go today to order it?

00:47:29.220 You can buy it on Amazon right now. You can also buy it on the publisher's website,

00:47:33.040 Passage Publishing. You can find that by simply Googling it. It's available on both locations.

00:47:37.540 there it is on passage. I got just a couple of minutes. Why did Bill Barr,

00:47:44.040 why did these guys not talk to the head of the FBI, Bill Barr? And why did Bill Barr not go

00:47:48.240 immediately to the Oval Office and have a meeting with the president of the United States and tell

00:47:51.600 him what was going on in Minneapolis? We could have potentially shut down the summer of love

00:47:56.140 that the nation may not have burned. And they tried to burn to the ground. Please remember,

00:48:01.100 in this timeframe, and I think it was in July, on a Friday night of which we were doing our show

00:48:06.400 Friday night, they overwhelmed the Secret Service at the White House. A protest turned to a riot.

00:48:12.740 They had to take the president of the United States down to the bunker underneath the White

00:48:16.700 House, only been done for the second time in history, at least that we know. One is George,

00:48:21.360 is the staff of Dick Cheney, et cetera, on the day of 9-11. And the second was President Trump

00:48:26.140 on that Friday night for a couple hours, of which he fought it. So, I mean, this couldn't have been

00:48:30.940 more serious. This summer of love, they tried to burn the nation to the ground to remove Donald

00:48:35.040 Trump as president of the United States. Why did Bill Barr not know about these FBI agents or

00:48:40.880 assistant U.S. attorneys going and asking these questions, which came back with, you know,

00:48:45.940 this is not what it seems, this is not what's being spread by the left-wing media, sir?

00:48:51.820 Yeah, those are good questions. So the first thing for your audience to understand is, remember,

00:48:55.500 when the federal government is operating the way it's supposed to operate, it doesn't tell

00:48:59.340 state governments not to bring a case. It might express its opinion, but it doesn't have that

00:49:04.900 sovereign authority to tell a state government not to bring a state crime charge that the state

00:49:09.620 believes has been committed. So even if, and I'm not familiar with what Bill Barr did.

00:49:14.840 Okay, I got that. Hang on. It can't tell him not to bring a case, but you can put together

00:49:19.320 the resources when you see facts, just facts to say, this is prosecutorial abuse. Prosecutorial

00:49:24.480 abuse is a crime, correct? Can't the federal government step in if they see prosecutorial

00:49:28.920 abuse against a innocent law enforcement officer? Yeah, they can. And prosecutorial misconduct can

00:49:35.680 be a crime. In this case, though, remember, a lot of these facts didn't come to light until much

00:49:39.840 later. That text message didn't come to light until- I understand it didn't come to light

00:49:43.900 much later. But one of the reasons it didn't come to light much later, the federal prosecutors at

00:49:47.560 the time in the FBI, and when they asked the questions, they could see something was going on,

00:49:52.540 right? They talked to Baker. The facts didn't add up. You knew then from the facts that were

00:49:57.760 presented that this thing was heading into potential direction as the nation burned it was

00:50:03.300 being turned into a political club to bludgeon people and it would and and that leads the just

00:50:09.500 department have at least the option anyway we're gonna have plenty of time to get into all that

00:50:12.900 one more time where do they go to get the book what's your social media so they can get to know

00:50:17.440 you better and get up to speed on this more yeah thanks you can get the book on amazon and you can

00:50:23.040 get the book on the publisher's website, Passage Publishing. You can find me on X, on TJ underscore

00:50:28.660 Harker. You can also find me on Substack, Amicus Republici on Substack, where I write on a variety

00:50:34.840 of different issues and have done so for several years now. And Steve, one last point. Yeah, go

00:50:40.840 ahead. Go ahead, TJ. I was just going to say, you know, you're exactly right to tie the summer of

00:50:45.200 love to this case. When the trial began, Al Sharpton said that Derek, quote, Derek Chauvin

00:50:50.420 might be in the courtroom, but America is on trial. And that's, that's the essential reason 0.51

00:50:55.300 why I wrote this book is because it was, yeah, this was the seedling that sort of led to the,

00:51:00.860 the, uh, the catalyzation of the left-wing ideology, Black Lives Matter, defund the police,

00:51:06.460 a thousand other ideologies. Have you, have you tried to FOIA? Have you tried to, look,

00:51:11.220 this audience knows, I mean, dude, we covered it every day. People taking the knee and stuff.

00:51:15.760 this audience was on point. Have you gone to the government to foyer and get the documents? Have

00:51:22.160 you presented foyer requests to the Trump administration, sir? Yes, I did. I submitted

00:51:28.600 a foyer request to the Federal Bureau of Investigation several times back in early part of

00:51:33.100 2025. I finally received a letter response from them indicating that it would take them over 2,100

00:51:39.640 days to respond to my request. So that's something like seven or eight years, which of course is

00:51:45.020 not serious can't ho ho stop full stop cash patel's fbi sent you back a letter requesting

00:51:51.500 documents about this and said it would take seven or eight years to to get to the request

00:51:56.160 is that what i'm hearing yes and my request was not particularly large i was looking for what

00:52:01.300 are called 302s those are interview reports of several specific witnesses including a man named

00:52:06.520 maurice hall okay yeah later we're going to have you back on but i will get we're going to get on

00:52:14.700 we're going to get on this one today you've already got my blood pressure going up tj harker

00:52:20.580 you're a good man and the book is a monumental work of investigative reporting and uh people

00:52:25.820 want i think i speak for the audience want to thank you for taking really committing a big

00:52:30.540 part of your life to going after this uh really appreciate you sir thank you so much thank you

00:52:36.240 audience i hope i hope you're enraged

00:52:38.160 I tell you one thing

00:52:41.660 when they turn the apparatus

00:52:43.560 you think these midterm elections are big

00:52:45.440 when they turn this apparatus against you

00:52:47.860 again you

00:52:48.380 they will do anything 0.99

00:52:50.860 to crush and destroy you

00:52:53.220 just remember that

00:52:54.620 this book I guarantee

00:52:57.360 will not be able to put down

00:52:58.600 American scapegoat T.J. Hart

00:53:01.060 former federal prosecutor

00:53:02.680 thank you so much for joining us here in the world

00:53:08.160 I thank God you're not the boss.

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Bannon's War Room - June 18, 2026

Episode 5454： American Scapegoat： How A Corrupt Justice System Sacrificed Derek Chauvin To The Mob

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