Bannon's War Room - Episode 5463： Spearheading The Bill Pulte Nomination

00:00:00.000 Phil Pulte is a man on a mission. Just days into the job, the New York Times reports the new acting

00:00:05.380 director of national intelligence, ODNY, could announce layoffs as early as today. The top

00:00:11.700 Democrats on House and Senate intel committees have sent him a letter warning him against those

00:00:17.060 cuts. Aside, though, from cutting jobs at ODNI, Pulte may be working on another task for President

00:00:23.720 Donald Trump. Well, let's talk about what legal recourse the employees have, because we've seen

00:00:27.960 this movie before. Many of the employees of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence

00:00:32.340 allegedly or theoretically have civil service protections, and they could fight to get their

00:00:36.780 jobs back. There are courts in this country that are allowing people to go forward with those

00:00:41.280 kinds of lawsuits. Maureen Comey, former FBI Director Jim Comey's daughter, has a lawsuit

00:00:45.840 like that that's currently ongoing here in Manhattan. But in other areas of the country,

00:00:50.960 fired members of the civil service have not been allowed access to federal courts to do that.

00:00:55.300 They've been told they have to direct their complaints to the Merit Systems Protection Board.

00:00:59.440 That's a sort of Byzantine administrative process that takes a very long time to get through.

00:01:05.400 And that's by design.

00:01:06.700 The reason that they are going ahead and firing some of these people is because they know that recourse, if any, is going to be a long time in coming.

00:01:13.640 They say we're concerned that your record as director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency demonstrates a willingness to misuse your position, including your access to sensitive information to pursue President Trump's perceived political enemies and further his retributive political agenda.

00:01:29.380 On that note, there's Reuters reporting that White House officials delayed, Leanne, an ODNI report regarding the vulnerabilities on voting machines.

00:01:40.040 Three sources telling them that that report did not go far enough on the big lie on Donald Trump's attempt to say that the election was stolen.

00:01:47.680 It was not.

00:01:49.740 Pulte is not somebody that has a lot of popularity, broadly speaking, within Congress.

00:01:54.980 Does a how how broad that was the concern about what he might do with elections?

00:02:01.360 Democrats are clearly worried about it. Are Republicans?

00:02:06.020 So, yeah, Democrats have obviously worried about many things regarding this election.

00:02:11.660 I haven't heard a lot of complaints from Republicans who are concerned about what he might do regarding the election.

00:02:17.680 But separately and but also related to Bill Pulte is FISA, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which has been expired for almost two weeks now.

00:02:31.360 And the Republicans and Democrats in the Senate were moving extremely expeditiously last week to confirm the new head of D&I, Jay Clayton, so that Bill Pulte would never be in this position as acting.

00:02:54.400 It was going to be a monumental feat and on track for him to be basically have a hearing and confirmed in a matter of days.

00:03:04.780 But Donald Trump blew all of that up.

00:03:08.040 And what Republicans on Capitol Hill think is the reason he did that is just because he wants Bill Pulte in there so bad to do his bidding, whatever that is,

00:03:19.240 Whether it's regarding this report, whether it's regarding decimating ODNI, perhaps there's other things on the agenda, too.

00:03:30.700 So Republicans and Democrats both were going to bypass the president and make sure that Bill Pulte wasn't installed, even in an acting capacity.

00:03:39.140 And Donald Trump figured out a way to to ensure that Jay Clayton didn't show up for his confirmation hearing, delayed that confirmation process.

00:03:51.500 And here we are. So there are definitely Republican and Democratic concerns much more broadly about what is happening over there.

00:04:01.080 This coincides almost to the day with the 10 year anniversary of Brexit.

00:04:05.900 it? Yeah. Yeah, it does. And there, you know, while Brexit doesn't explain the entirety of

00:04:13.920 Keir Starmer's departure, it really is kind of the basis for helping you understand what

00:04:22.020 has gone wrong in this country over a decade, according to people who live here who have

00:04:27.420 become so frustrated with politicians. They were frustrated with conservative Tory politicians who

00:04:33.200 were in power for 14 years uh and they feel uh and felt uh like keir starmer didn't do a whole

00:04:39.140 lot better to address the kind of economic stagnation that the country has faced the

00:04:43.740 higher prices uh that uh they deal with every day in their lives in the sense that for a lot of folks

00:04:49.540 um you know the services okay this this cold open is amazing we're gonna go back to put a pin in it

00:04:56.300 but I got the Viceroy up.

00:04:57.600 I've got to go back.

00:05:00.340 The War Room production team in Denver, our team in Denver,

00:05:05.780 Real America's Voice, thank you so much.

00:05:08.360 Viceroy, I'm going to go back to the cold open in a minute,

00:05:11.300 but the opening about Pulte was too good.

00:05:15.120 I want to savor that, and I'll make sure I savor it with you first.

00:05:19.240 Katie Turr, all at MSNBC.

00:05:21.080 The very mention of Pulte as a concept, right, just as a concept, their minds just – I've never seen a reaction like this to any one person.

00:05:34.940 They just made a comment there that the Republicans and Democrats had come together in the Senate to have a workaround around Trump, to be able to go around Trump.

00:05:43.960 Vice Roy, you have been our man from the beginning of this second term, and you worked on it daily in the first term with Project 2025 and what you're doing at Article 3 to talk about the Article 2 powers of the president and the commander in chief, particularly when we're in time of war.

00:06:00.460 Are Katie Turr's guests and he's guest over his embassy, are they correct?

00:06:05.200 Can the Senate do a workaround and confront President Trump about this acting, about what he's done with this acting DNI head, sir?

00:06:14.660 I love that President Trump put Bill Pulte in charge of the DNI director of national intelligence.

00:06:22.880 Bill Pulte is, as I always say, a bold and fearless warrior for the Constitution.

00:06:28.020 he's a businessman he's not a politician he's not a creature of Washington not a creature of the

00:06:35.540 swamp and he'll go in there and he'll rip apart that place for as long as President Trump needs

00:06:43.180 Bill Pulte to rip apart that place I would just say this is someone who used to confirm

00:06:48.060 judges and Justice Department officials and others when I worked in the Senate

00:06:52.580 And even if the Senate confirms Jay Clayton as the next DNI, President Trump does not have to sign his commission and swear him in until President Trump is ready.

00:07:08.680 So they should feel – I don't think President Trump should wait to have Jay Clayton confirmed, have him confirmed, and then he can just hang out until Bill Pulte has gone through and broken every piece of China in D&I.

00:07:25.260 And then when Bill Pulte is done breaking China, then Jay Clayton can get his commission handed to him, delivered, and then sworn in, and then he can start.

00:07:34.100 what is this obsession they've got with warrantless fisa now and uh and with clayton um and uh and

00:07:43.340 look i think the confirmation process the two things that clayton ought to go through form

00:07:47.480 as a managing and by the way clayton is a is a good guy people know him he did a great job

00:07:51.500 sec the first time but there there are issues as managing director of sutherland cromo you've met

00:07:57.500 a million foreign you know actors you've got to go through all that it's got to be vetted

00:08:01.920 Also, in addition, this situation with Alibaba when he left and became general counsel of Alibaba.

00:08:06.660 Now, Alibaba has been put on the, as we argue at the time it should have been, on, I guess, the military technology list of China.

00:08:13.820 And tomorrow morning, we're going to have a complete total breakdown of all these updates on the Chinese side.

00:08:18.840 So we do want a formal, full vetting of Clayton and confirmation so they can't bitch and moan like they always do that President Trump jams somebody in there. 0.93

00:08:28.440 But President Trump, in his Article 2 powers, has the power to say when the guy's confirmed, to start the process, but also when he says, oh, come on over and I'm going to swear you in, correct?

00:08:40.040 That's still his choice?

00:08:43.340 Trump can wait as long as he wants.

00:08:46.860 After Jay Clayton is confirmed, you have to – it's not just the confirmation.

00:08:51.420 You have to deliver the commission and you have to swear in.

00:08:55.320 Barber v. Madison, right?

00:08:56.740 So President Trump can keep Bill Pulte as the acting DNI as long as he wants it.

00:09:03.340 And I love it.

00:09:04.160 I mean, just look what Tulsi was able to do on her last day as DNI, expose the COVID fraud that Tony Fauci created, COVID, and the Wuhan lab, lied about it, covered up his lie.

00:09:20.180 Trillions lost, trillions in treasure lost, millions of lives, months of years, really, of our lives destroyed by COVID, learning loss, particularly among poor black kids who Democrats pretend they care about.

00:09:36.100 There is so much that needs to be exposed at the DNI, and Bill Pulte is the perfect man to do it.

00:09:44.520 They've already talked about their firings.

00:09:47.040 He's going to refer for criminal referrals over to DOJ.

00:09:50.580 The people leaked that over at CNN.

00:09:52.980 Okay, Washington Post.

00:09:55.500 Majors, first off, tell people we're towards the end of the term of the Supreme Court.

00:09:59.580 For those that have not been with us for years and had your tutoring on this,

00:10:04.860 as we come to the end of June, the Supreme Court normally takes off 90 days,

00:10:10.160 take off July, August, and September and come back in October. Very traditional. So we're winding

00:10:16.100 down this term, which has been pretty historic. There's still a couple of three big decisions out

00:10:22.680 there. And the Washington Post had a huge article with the viceroy as the centerpiece today to say

00:10:29.640 even Trump's allies, and that would include war room, are a little jiggy about some of these

00:10:34.720 decisions that are coming out, particularly on birthright citizenship. Walk me through the piece

00:10:40.020 right as you're quoted in there you didn't participate with it but they pull quotes from

00:10:45.040 war room and from article three but what are they're trying to drive a wedge between us and

00:10:50.880 they can't do that but that being said there's some legitimate concerns about what what may come

00:10:56.780 sir well the three big cases that are coming out we have the birthright citizenship case which i

00:11:04.600 think is the most important case and then there are two cases on whether the president of the

00:11:10.980 united states has the article to power as the chief executive officer to fire executive branch

00:11:17.420 officials like a federal reserve governor lisa cook and a federal trade commission commissioner

00:11:23.380 and so uh those are those are big cases about the separation powers i worry that the supreme court

00:11:31.220 is going to rule the wrong way on birthright citizenship.

00:11:35.440 Apparently, we fought a civil war to give birthright citizenship

00:11:40.060 to 1.5 million Chinese birth tourists

00:11:44.040 so they can come have their babies in America

00:11:47.200 and then go back to Beijing and mail in their ballots from Beijing.

00:11:50.160 I don't think that's what the proponents and the ratifiers

00:11:55.300 and the American people thought that they were agreeing to

00:11:57.600 with the 14th Amendment, with the birthright citizenship provisions.

00:12:01.220 And I don't think that's what the American people in Congress thought they were agreeing to in 1940 when they passed a statute dealing with birthright citizenship.

00:12:10.080 But I worry that the Supreme Court will not have the courage to follow the law in that case, and it's going to be – they're either going to rule that this 1940 statute somehow gave birthright citizenship to Chinese birth tourists and anyone else who happens to step foot in America and have a kid, or even worse, they could rule the 14th Amendment gives birthright citizenship to Chinese birth tourists.

00:12:39.420 I apparently subject to the jurisdiction in the 14th Amendment doesn't have any meaning to the Supreme Court or they just want to they just want to ignore that meeting because it's more politically expedient.

00:12:53.680 Let's hold right there before we go to the article to issues of which you've got us trained up on.

00:12:59.780 I want to go back to birthright says, was it the presentation or arguments?

00:13:03.940 The question, what what makes Mike Davis think it may lean this way?

00:13:09.420 I just I look, I I just know the justices and I know which ones have the courage to follow the law and which ones doubt.

00:13:17.060 And unfortunately, I don't think we have five justices on the Supreme Court who have the courage to follow the law.

00:13:22.540 In this case, remember what birthright citizenship is.

00:13:26.340 It was this was part of the 14th Amendment after the Civil War, after the Civil War amendments, 13th Amendment outlawed slavery.

00:13:33.200 The 14th Amendment provided due process and equal protection to the freed slaves, and the 15th Amendment provided voting rights to the freed male slaves.

00:13:44.680 That was extended to women with the 19th Amendment.

00:13:47.380 But part of the birthright citizenship, part of the 14th Amendment included the birthright citizenship provision because there was a Supreme Court ruling,

00:13:56.400 the Dred Scott ruling that said that the children of the freed slaves were not citizens. And so

00:14:03.880 we rightly corrected that with the birthright citizenship provision in the 14th Amendment.

00:14:11.080 But remember, you have birthright citizenship if you are born in America and subject to the

00:14:17.740 jurisdiction of our laws. And so you have to ask this dispositive question. If American Indians

00:14:24.700 did not have birthright citizenship under the 14th Amendment, how the heck would illegal aliens,

00:14:32.760 how would Chinese birth tours, how would the kids of Trendy Aragua, they simply do not. The birthright

00:14:38.940 citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment has a distinct legal meaning. And I think the Supreme

00:14:45.060 Court, unfortunately, is going to ignore that because it's politically expedient.

00:14:50.780 Hang on one second.

00:14:52.140 The Vice-Roy Mike Davis is with us.

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00:16:49.680 Mike Davis, in those years in the wilderness,

00:16:52.420 when we were working to make sure that President Trump's second term,

00:16:55.600 understanding he would come back, would be as powerful as possible.

00:17:00.020 One of the things you specifically took on was a redefinition, really to go back to the original concept of the framers, of the Article II powers of the commander-in-chief, the chief executive officer, and the chief magistrate and chief law enforcement officer of the United States government.

00:17:18.980 That would be the president of these United States.

00:17:22.720 Big, big, big rulings coming out by the Supreme Court on this very topic.

00:17:28.080 Can you walk us through it?

00:17:30.020 Yeah, that was one of our first shows we did together, Steve, on a Saturday several years ago.

00:17:36.020 We went through this in detail, but it's this.

00:17:38.380 We have a constitution, which is a loan agreement between we, the people, the sovereign citizens of America, and our governments.

00:17:46.760 And we loan our governments specific, enumerated, and divided powers in this loan agreement.

00:17:55.340 The federal government has the powers that we give it in this document and nothing more.

00:17:59.600 And those powers are divided between Article I, legislative power to Congress, Article II, executive power to the president, and Article III, judicial power to the Supreme Court and lower federal courts.

00:18:10.960 And the Article II power is a great power.

00:18:15.360 That's why we have one president elected by all Americans with the executive power, and that's all the executive power.

00:18:22.060 That includes the power to hire and fire people and includes the power to make decisions.

00:18:28.240 And if the president does not have the power to fire an executive branch official, whether it's a governor of the Federal Reserve or a commissioner on the Federal Trade Commission, then those agencies are unconstitutional.

00:18:44.760 They're not set up constitutionally because Congress cannot take away the president's article to power via statutes.

00:18:52.480 And so the Supreme Court is going to rule on those two cases, whether President Trump had the power to fire Lisa Cook as a governor of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors and whether the president had the power to fire commissioners on the Federal Trade Commission.

00:19:12.000 um do you have a sense given the oral arguments and the uh and and questions etc where do you

00:19:21.920 think we're coming down on this i think that the president trump is clearly going to win the ftc

00:19:28.100 case uh the president should win the uh the lisa took case with the the governor of the federal

00:19:35.160 reserve board of governors it would be interesting if the supreme courts uh ruled against president

00:19:41.480 Trump on that, that would mean that we have a fourth branch of governments called the Federal

00:19:46.660 Reserve, which I don't remember seeing that in the Constitution. So we'll see how this shakes out.

00:19:54.760 And I suspect Trump will win both of those cases with the FTC an almost certain win.

00:20:02.600 Mike, you know, this morning, this is why I wanted to have you on talk about this today.

00:20:05.880 this morning, I talked about this with Malpest talking about Greenspan, that the framers never

00:20:11.400 specifically did not have a central bank in there. We had a huge fight. Hamilton started,

00:20:15.500 I remember, had a huge fight in the first one. General Jackson, President Jackson got rid of

00:20:19.460 the second one. We from 18, I think, 36 to 1913, there was no central bank, which also was the

00:20:25.140 greatest time of prosperity in American history. But it seems like judicial supremacy, because

00:20:31.680 We're hanging on these Supreme Court decisions.

00:20:34.760 Judicial supremacy and the Federal Reserve being able to really control the currency has put two institutions that the framers never saw as being kind of overseeing either legislative branch or the executive powers.

00:20:52.540 So how are we going to sort this out, particularly on these rulings tomorrow?

00:20:55.640 Let's say they go the wrong way.

00:20:57.460 How are we going to get back to really the original intent of the framers, given this is our 250th year of the declaration of war against the British crown?

00:21:07.960 Yeah, look, if the Supreme Court, for example, rules that Chinese birth tourists have birthright citizenship under the 14th Amendment or a 1940 statute, we're going to be in a deep hole as a country.

00:21:27.980 Because we have judges giving away our most sovereign, our most crucial sovereign power as we the people, which is controlling who comes and who goes in America and who becomes one of us. 0.76

00:21:45.840 And we never agreed to give birthright citizenship to Chinese birth tourists.

00:21:51.620 We never agreed to a federal reserve system in our Constitution.

00:21:56.220 I think we need to get back to the basics as a country, and we need to look at the Constitution as it's written and as it was intended.

00:22:07.620 If the Federal Reserve is not mentioned in the Constitution, then it should not exist at the federal level.

00:22:15.200 Remember, the federal government only has the powers that we, the people, give it in that loan agreement called the Constitution, and the federal government gets nothing more.

00:22:25.100 The rest of it belongs to the states and we the people as confirmed by the 10th Amendment to the Constitution.

00:22:31.600 So I hope these judges who President Trump put on the bench in the first term and he's putting on the bench in the second term, these judges who auditioned as textualist, as originalist, as constitutionalist, I hope that they actually follow through with how they campaigned for their jobs.

00:22:55.660 So, Mike, last thing. And you taught us this, but, you know, it's kind of a tale of two cities right now. I like your observations. Axios is just reporting. I want to read to you.

00:23:07.780 Minnesota's top federal judge on Monday quashed several Trump administration subpoenas for immigration-related records from Governor Tim Walsh and Minneapolis Mayor Fry and a dozen other state and local officials.

00:23:21.160 The grand jury subpoenas issued when Operation Metro Surge was at its height were clearly meant to, quote,

00:23:27.840 coerce Minnesota officials into assisting the federal government with enforcing civil immigration laws, said the federal judge.

00:23:36.680 I mean, it's just there's two different federal court systems, one in Sanctuary City, blue states and the others in red states.

00:23:46.160 How can we go on? I mean, my belief is that this is heading towards a constitutional crisis where you have two separate systems.

00:23:54.960 I mean, here was something very basic. A grand jury issued these subpoenas, and now we've had a federal judge said, no, Jacob Fry and Waltz are bulletproof on this, on even having to provide documents and information, sir.

00:24:08.840 Now, this judge is a whack job, and it's actually shameful. This was actually a George W. Bush appointed, now granted, with Democrat senators in Minnesota, so they had a veto over this guy.

00:24:19.500 But I think this judge court for Justice Scalia, so he's not some lefty, but these judges, the longer they're on the bench, the more delusional they get, right?

00:24:29.300 They actually think it's their job to protect the American people from our duly elected president. 0.95

00:24:35.980 I mean, this whole mindset of this older generation of so-called conservative lawyers and judges is ridiculous.

00:24:43.860 That we're going to protect these government officials from grand jury subpoenas when they're looking at the fact that these local Democrat officials are harboring illegal aliens in their state and they're obstructing federal immigration officials trying to carry out federal law.

00:25:02.560 This judge is going to get reversed. The Trump Justice Department should seek immediate relief with the Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals, and if they have to, go up to the emergency docket on the Supreme Court.

00:25:16.300 But these narcissists in robes like this goofball judge in Minnesota need to understand that we have elections in this country and the American people elected President Trump to get illegal aliens the hell out of our country.

00:25:31.740 And if these local Confederate officials in Minnesota want to obstruct that, if they want to have insurrection and seditious conspiracy to stop federal law enforcement officials from executing federal law, then they should be held accountable. 0.79

00:25:51.320 These officials should be charged for obstructing federal law enforcement.

00:25:57.760 Mike, last thing.

00:25:59.060 I believe the president's going up to Capitol Hill.

00:26:01.340 He's going to attend the Republican conferences for senators on Wednesday, whether that's at the White House or he goes up to Capitol Hill to talk to them.

00:26:10.120 This is kind of the throwdown between the president and the Republican conference about his legislative agenda and what he feels needs to be done between now and Election Day.

00:26:21.840 Your thoughts?

00:26:24.280 Again, we've talked about this a lot on your show.

00:26:26.880 the Save America Act has the support of over 80 percent of Americans, including a supermajority

00:26:36.180 of Democrats and even a supermajority of minorities. You know, those black voters who

00:26:42.860 Democrats pretend do not have the wherewithal to get a voter ID like everyone else, when in reality 0.96

00:26:49.100 they want their illegal immigrants to illegally vote for Democrats. That's why they don't want

00:26:54.580 to pass the Save America Act. If Senate Republicans, if John Thune cannot pass the Save America Act

00:27:02.320 with over 80 percent support, what the hell are they doing? They're at the wrong line of work,

00:27:08.220 and they should get out of the Senate if they can't pass a bill with 80 percent support.

00:27:14.480 Vice Roy, where do people, by the way, the article says that Gorsuch calls you the general. I think

00:27:19.040 we'll keep with the Vice Roy, let Associate Justice Gorsuch keep with the general. Where

00:27:24.380 do folks go to Article 3, sir, and how they find you on your always hot social media?

00:27:30.720 Article 3 project dot org, article number 3 project dot org. You can follow us on social

00:27:37.180 media, donate, but only what you can afford. But again, the most important action item right now

00:27:42.040 for the war room posse is to light up both of your home state senators and tell them to put

00:27:48.040 the Save America Act on President Trump's desk for his signature. And thank you, Steve.

00:27:54.380 Mike, thank you. As soon as the Supreme Court rules, we'll be back to you. Thank you, brother. Appreciate you.

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00:31:43.760 John Gardner, you're back in meetings.

00:31:45.780 We can't really talk about the details of the meetings,

00:31:47.460 but let me say, President Trump, as you know,

00:31:49.600 he's maniacally focused on bringing manufacturing jobs

00:31:52.560 back to the United States,

00:31:53.460 one of the reasons you and a number of the people

00:31:56.000 leading this effort on manufacturing the country

00:31:58.320 were over there today.

00:32:00.740 Talk to me.

00:32:01.380 Tell our folks, you specialize in the smallest manufacturing,

00:32:05.880 in the small manufacturing.

00:32:06.940 and say, hey, look, the reason I do that, that's where the jobs are. You tell me 90% of the jobs

00:32:12.440 are in shops of, I believe, under 50 people. Walk through, why are you so obsessed with

00:32:18.860 small manufacturing in this country, sir, and its health and vitality?

00:32:24.460 Well, 48% of American manufacturers are five employees or less. 75% of American manufacturers

00:32:31.280 are 20 employees or less. And 90% of American manufacturers are 50 employees or less.

00:32:35.480 And they support the rest of the high-end industry, the robotics and the automation, the bigger companies, the sub-tier levels.

00:32:42.900 And they're very reliant on us because if we do one niche thing and there's not a lot of other people that do it, they rely on us.

00:32:50.660 And so I'm passionate because a lot of these small companies are family-owned and have been doing it for generations.

00:32:55.760 And that's how, you know, that's the manufacturing ballgame is generational decades, not the kind of quick financial engineering.

00:33:03.220 So that's why I'm so passionate about it, Steve.

00:33:06.860 So what is, I know President Trump and his team over at OMB and the team with Peter Navarro and some of the people over at the White House are working on things.

00:33:17.200 When you talk to them, what do you, you're saying, hey, here's where I think you ought to prioritize, sir.

00:33:21.840 Um, well, so I, first of all, they're doing an amazing job and they're very receptive to what industry has to feed back to them. I was quite stunned by how open they are and they acknowledge, Hey, we know what we don't know. And I thought that was so important to me that they're aware they're not manufacturing experts and they want our input and they're opening up lines of communication for that.

00:33:48.280 I mean, two years ago when I wrote my book to think that we'd have an administration place where the Secretary of Commerce is asking industry people for their input and receiving it, it's really cool.

00:34:02.000 It was very, very touching, actually, and inspiring.

00:34:05.680 And so that was kind of the thrust of today was just basically, hey, you're welcome to give your input, and we will take it seriously.

00:34:16.860 And that means the world to a lot of the manufacturing people that were there today.

00:34:21.740 I didn't speak up personally because I wanted to say what I had to say for the war room and the audience here.

00:34:29.080 One of the challenges, the biggest challenge, everybody I talk to in the industry, the biggest challenge that 90% of the industry faces, and I talk to them all day long.

00:34:38.260 That's what I do all day is deal with the 90% of the industry and machine shops that make metalworking parts.

00:34:43.500 The biggest challenge we're facing is the price of materials. And there's a solution to this. And I believe the Trump administration is on this. But what we're seeing on our end is the compression of time.

00:35:00.200 You know, I look at a presidential term as four quarters of a football game, and we're

00:35:04.040 in the middle of the second quarter.

00:35:05.800 And to give you an example, a buddy of mine, his input to his material price for one part

00:35:12.280 was 8% 10 months ago.

00:35:13.860 Now it's 24%.

00:35:15.040 And he said it's making his part unaffordable to make.

00:35:19.740 He needs three or four stainless to make this.

00:35:23.900 Every input to a manufactured good in America has gone up.

00:35:27.100 copper has gone through the roof i buy a lot of copper derivatives uh aluminum especially now

00:35:33.120 the naysayers want to blame the terrorists but i say this is demand there's so much demand there's

00:35:39.160 so much manufacturing activity going on the ism and pmi manufacturing is going through the roof

00:35:43.800 this is a good thing to have to see happening but the what it creates is we don't have enough

00:35:49.720 capacity with the refining and smelting of steel, copper, and aluminum to bring the cost down for

00:35:57.580 our manufacturers. So it's a good thing, kind of a cart before the horse. And so that's the report

00:36:03.980 from the trenches, Steve, up to the generals. And the solution that I propose has a historical

00:36:13.620 foundation during World War II. During World War II, we went from making 3,800 tanks in 1941

00:36:21.780 to 24,000 in 1942, 318 bombers to nearly 3,000 bombers in 1942. This is all from Freedom's 0.95

00:36:30.740 Forge and Arthur Herman. One of the coolest things, folks on raw material, this is a great story,

00:36:37.700 is Alcoa was America's sole aluminum producer in 1939. It created a monopoly, no competition.

00:36:42.800 That's not capitalism. And so what the government did is they created the Defense Plant Corporation, and it's called the DPC.

00:36:51.140 And the government funded through, and the capital engine for this was the Reconstruction Finance Corporation, the RFC.

00:36:58.640 And they used a GOCO model, government-owned, contractor-operated.

00:37:03.560 And within the contracts was the government's going to break ground on this, and they're going to use money with the Reconstruction Finance Corporation that's backed by citizen bonds, war bonds, and a taxpayer dollar.

00:37:14.980 And the government is going to break ground and use the Army Corps of Engineers and create these plants, and we're going to lease them to private contractors with the clause in the contracts that they will be sold at the end of the war to the private contractors.

00:37:30.460 And what this is, it broke up Alco's aluminum monopoly, and up from World War II till 2000,

00:37:37.820 America produced about 40% of the world's aluminum.

00:37:41.580 After that, now we produce about 2% of the world's aluminum, meaning we have a raw material

00:37:47.500 problem. And so the solution was not a free market accident, and it was not a state Soviet 0.58

00:37:58.300 takeover of industry. It was the American system at work. Government investment, and I believe we

00:38:03.340 can do this if we deploy the Defense Production Act, the Army Corps of Engineers on federal land

00:38:07.980 to bypass permitting, and we use the national emergency that President Trump's already declared

00:38:12.640 with IEPA and start to deploy that to break ground, build facilities, lease them to private

00:38:20.420 contractors, build steel, aluminum refineries, and copper refineries to bring the cost of raw

00:38:25.320 materials down because from what i'm seeing is we don't have much copper refineries being built

00:38:29.520 not much aluminum refineries being built to bring the prices down for the producers

00:38:34.080 uh so i think there's a lot of things in the works can we can we bring can we restore ourselves

00:38:41.360 as a manufacturing superpower if those building blocks i know the president and and uh and scott

00:38:47.520 besant and jameson grier and peter navarre are fighting every day on this rare earth situation

00:38:52.760 but can we return as a manufacturing superpower if we don't do these couple of things you're

00:38:58.780 talking about? If us manufacturers, 90% of the manufacturing industry, don't get our inputs

00:39:05.040 lower quickly, it creates a problem. I always believe in America and I always believe we'll

00:39:12.040 become the manufacturing superpower of the world again. But it makes it a lot harder when I have a

00:39:17.860 question for the administration. President Trump's a businessman. Secretary Lutnik's a businessman.

00:39:24.100 And what would they do if their cost of running their business, their cost of doing business went

00:39:29.200 up three to five times? That's what I'm seeing in my business for their raw material inputs.

00:39:33.420 As a businessman, what would you do? And that's the dilemma we're being put in. A guy, Jerry,

00:39:39.480 he runs a company called Performance Carbide. He's taking, in Iowa, he builds tungsten carbide

00:39:46.940 cutting things for John Deere Reapers to cut crops down. He's taking out of his retirement

00:39:53.380 funds to purchase tungsten carbide because the price of tungsten carbide has gone up

00:39:56.580 four to five times, four to five X. So that's the challenges we're facing. But I really believe

00:40:02.800 that there's a lot of solutions in the works. President Trump's going to be at Mack Trucks

00:40:08.520 tomorrow in Pennsylvania, the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. We're going to cover that here

00:40:12.020 on The Worm of Real America's Voice. What would you like? Give me a minute on what you would like

00:40:16.340 President Trump to tell the workers at the Mack truck facility, sir? I'd like President Trump to

00:40:22.380 say he's only going to endorse people for the midterms that promise they will support his

00:40:29.860 tariff agendas. And that's one thing I would like him to commit to. And then I'd also like to tell

00:40:35.780 them that the administration is aware of the challenges that we have before us to return

00:40:43.140 manufacturing here. And there's a lot of things in the works to come help them and to keep believing

00:40:47.540 and keep fighting hard and to keep voting for America first, uh, an America first administration

00:40:52.800 because they're doing it. They bit, they bit off a, a massive undertaking after five decades of

00:40:58.760 and so I see the work they're doing. It was very inspiring today. Yeah. For all those guys are

00:41:05.320 taking shots at president Trump all the time. Hey, if you didn't have Donald Trump in 16 and

00:41:09.700 then coming back, you wouldn't have a country. I know it's far from perfect. You would not have

00:41:16.520 a country. The globalists were totally in charge. And now we've got the oligarchs. We've got to

00:41:20.580 fight, fight, fight. But President Trump saved this country full stop. John Gardner, where do

00:41:26.500 people go to get you your writings? You're on top of this about bringing manufacturing back here to

00:41:30.980 the United States and making it robust and vital. John Gardner, author dot com is my website. And

00:41:38.480 And on X, get her on Instagram, John Gardner, V-O-H, at John Gardner, V-O-H.

00:41:44.980 John, thank you.

00:41:46.060 Glad you came back.

00:41:46.880 Thanks for having me on.

00:41:47.300 Glad you went to the conference and glad you got a great report from the front lines.

00:41:52.680 You know, it's interesting what John said and something I've, you know, kind of looked at,

00:41:57.680 But the endorsements for these candidates, a absolute basic commitment should be on these candidates to be 150 percent in on President Trump's tariffs.

00:42:14.320 The tariffs are the central beating heart.

00:42:17.260 President Trump calls himself T-man, right?

00:42:20.540 T-man.

00:42:22.040 Tariffs are his thing.

00:42:22.720 Tariffs, the central part, this is what Navarro, when Navarro's brought on the campaign back in 15.

00:42:30.220 This is why Jamison Greer has done such a great job.

00:42:32.700 This is why Scott Besson has worked up, you know, this program.

00:42:37.120 Tariffs are key.

00:42:37.820 And if you're going to give endorsements, the endorseee has to be body and soul committed to President Trump's tariff program.

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00:42:51.280 This is the central beating heart of President Trump's economic plan.

00:42:55.100 Return using tariffs, either two things.

00:42:59.240 Use it as a forcing function to force people to build their plant and equipment over here.

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00:45:59.660 War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.

00:46:04.320 Okay, Comstock's on. Comstock, you're not a, you're a manufacturing company, but you don't bend steel, right? You're not, you're not forging iron or extracting plastics, but you're an American manufacturer. Are all of your manufacturing done here in the United States of America, sir?

00:46:25.500 yeah 100 percent um yeah i mean to your point uh we have two facilities one in ohio one in idaho

00:46:33.700 um all the the creams you know the towel moisturizer as well as the sacred healing salve

00:46:38.580 uh is handmade in idaho but also going off that you know that's kind of why we got our start in

00:46:43.520 the first place where we just saw all these companies were outsourcing all their manufacturing

00:46:47.100 overseas usually the china where the quality control can be pretty questionable so we wanted

00:46:53.060 to create a company where all the products are not only made within the usa so use ingredients

00:46:58.620 that we trust um and then to take it a step further we also third-party lab test all of our

00:47:02.860 products so that's always our promise and then of course we try to provide these products at a

00:47:07.520 reasonable price as well and not overprice it uh just to make money off it how do you juggle all

00:47:13.060 that because people tell me hang on everybody says oh you can't make in the usa because it's

00:47:17.520 just too expensive and you have to charge prices people can't afford but you're the opposite and

00:47:21.920 I could see that reading the comments on your site.

00:47:25.120 Your prices are reasonable.

00:47:26.600 People love them.

00:47:27.440 The reviews are incredible.

00:47:28.940 Just real quickly, how can you do it in the United States when I hear everybody say you can't do it,

00:47:33.080 you've got to send it to South America or China or South Asia?

00:47:38.440 Why is sacred human health, with particularly all the products you think,

00:47:44.060 you think, hey, these guys will be manufacturing all over the world,

00:47:46.660 why do you manufacture and how can you pull it off here in the good old United States?

00:47:51.920 Yeah. So, you know, it's basically we do take a hit on the margins for sure. At the end of the day, you know, we're not just in this for money by any means. We actually want to provide people with healthy products to better their lives. And if we did outsource the production overseas, obviously, we would probably make a lot more money. But that was never our goal to begin with. And we always just want to create a company that actually backs up what they're saying.

00:48:15.340 And so to your point, it is more expensive 100% to produce everything right here in the USA, but it's a risk and a hit that we're willing to take just to make sure that we give people the best products possible.

00:48:25.680 Essentially, you keep the prices reasonable.

00:48:28.940 You just take the margin hit, but you figure, hey, you've got great customers.

00:48:32.240 They love it.

00:48:32.660 They love the fact it's made in America, and we're going to make more money over the long term.

00:48:37.060 So we want a customer base that knows that we're dedicated to manufacturing and folks having good jobs and good paying jobs here in the United States.

00:48:46.360 It's amazing, Trevor.

00:48:47.380 It's one of the reasons I love being associated with you guys.

00:48:49.860 If they go to the website today, what product are you highlighting?

00:48:54.460 Yeah, so I was going to just touch on our organic beetroot product, which is one of our newer products, just because we got a lot of questions around it.

00:49:01.140 It's been super popular, which I'm very happy about.

00:49:03.140 but it's just a product designed to support heart health, healthy circulation,

00:49:07.220 overall cardiovascular wellness. So, you know, in short, if you are focused on supporting,

00:49:12.640 like I said, a healthy heart, healthy blood flow circulation, as well as cardiovascular health,

00:49:18.960 it's a product designed specifically for that. And, and just also just supporting your energy

00:49:24.020 and wellness overall. So like I said, it's been super popular. And as always, if you do have any

00:49:29.180 questions around it, you can always just send us an email and we'll get back to you as soon as we

00:49:32.580 can. One more time, where they go, I know, just read the reviews. Don't take it from Trevor

00:49:37.400 Comstock. Don't take it from Steve Bannon. Take it from your own compadres. Just read it and then

00:49:42.820 go ask all the questions and get right to Trevor. Where they go right now, Trevor Comstock.

00:49:48.560 Yeah, so you can go to sacredhumanhealth.com or you can just type in Sacred Human at Google.

00:49:53.000 We'll come up and then you can always use code war room for 10% off any order. And like I said,

00:49:58.940 Just let us know if you have any questions.

00:50:01.640 Trevor, you're an extraordinary executive, founder, inspiration leader over there.

00:50:06.160 And it's just extraordinary the way you've built this business.

00:50:08.920 It's amazing.

00:50:09.820 Thank you so much.

00:50:10.760 Glad to be associated with you guys.

00:50:12.780 Thank you.

00:50:13.240 We talked about it from day one.

00:50:14.340 He says, look, we can make a lot more money if we ship it overseas.

00:50:16.920 But we can provide a lot of well-paying jobs here and make sure that we have quality control.

00:50:22.640 There can be no excuses.

00:50:23.660 We can be on top of this.

00:50:25.380 They've had an extraordinary run.

00:50:27.160 Extraordinary.

00:50:27.520 This is why they're not cranking out new products all the time, very by, you know, 0.56

00:50:31.740 they're kind of handcrafting these products, and it's all American manufactured under their eagle eye.

00:50:38.280 Mike Lindell, talking about a great American company.

00:50:41.800 Mike Lindell, you're on quite a roll.

00:50:44.040 I know the son's doing a lot, but you're still overseeing, but your son's there and the whole team.

00:50:48.280 They're doing great.

00:50:49.180 I want to talk about these deals.

00:50:51.020 But, brother, you have set Minnesota on fire right now.

00:50:55.240 A federal judge just came back today and said a grand jury subpoena to get the information from Jacob Fry in from Walls about they're obstructing the enforcement of immigration laws is squashed.

00:51:07.220 We had Mike Davis here to start it.

00:51:08.840 Now, that's going to get reversed in the Justice Department there.

00:51:11.280 But it shows you everything in Minnesota you're fighting against is cray-cray, right?

00:51:16.100 It's this cray-cray, sir.

00:51:18.640 Yeah, absolutely.

00:51:19.940 I've said it before. 0.98

00:51:21.180 You know, we were the Trojan horse for so many things in Minnesota, including the Sharia law, the Muslims practicing Islam. 1.00

00:51:28.700 And right now, this fraud, you guys, the biggest blessing we've ever had in Minnesota, because it's opened so many doors now. 1.00

00:51:35.460 And then even having Walt's run as vice president, it got to show the rest of the country what we were up against here, what kind of person he is, what kind of governor he was, or still is, I guess.

00:51:48.440 But, yeah, all the corruption here, this is why we have an opportunity.

00:51:52.860 We haven't had Minnesota for decades.

00:51:56.080 We've literally been blue since 1972.

00:51:59.460 But people need to hear the hope now.

00:52:01.520 And the hope is we can turn this around and win and save Minnesota.

00:52:06.780 We're just, I mean, you go back, I was born and raised here in Minnesota.

00:52:10.800 It's the greatest state, so many great people.

00:52:13.220 And what's come in here is just pure evil that's running our state.

00:52:18.100 And when you have a governor that puts a satanic statue in the Capitol and he said we have to be fair, fair to the devil, give me a break.

00:52:27.080 I mean, this is what we're up against.

00:52:28.920 But I'll tell you, Steve, I'll tell you, with everything going on, you know, I'm just so happy we've gotten this far to be able to fight this and go through and win and be the next governor of Minnesota. 0.70

00:52:42.620 and it's been because of the War Room Posse. 0.88

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Bannon's War Room - June 23, 2026

Episode 5463： Spearheading The Bill Pulte Nomination

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