Bannon's War Room - Episode 5497： Farage Steps Down; Platner Accused Of Rape

00:00:00.000 I mean, it's one thing to have one, you know, to have this first tranche. 1.00

00:00:05.860 Remember, there were there was an earlier group of women.

00:00:10.060 And now this is yet another tranche of allegations.

00:00:13.880 And I think that, you know, when you look at the polling on this, I just was looking at a poll that said 75 percent of people said that if there were more allegations, he should drop out.

00:00:25.160 And I think this constant stream and even you see the polling for him since the last batch of allegations, his numbers have gone down.

00:00:33.780 I do think like, look, I'm baffled that the vet and the vetting process for this candidate.

00:00:40.380 Number one, I mean, this is just, you know, the fact that they're just constant, you know, allegations, I think, really is a sign that there just was not proper vetting here.

00:00:50.680 And, you know, you may, again, align with him politically, but the truth is, like, this is not a candidate who is ready for primetime on any stretch of the imagination.

00:01:01.940 And Democrats have, you know, there's a feeling in the party that candidates like this are not for the party.

00:01:10.260 And, you know, there has been a backlash to me, too, but it has not been like this.

00:01:14.780 The other thing I would say is, is that clearly this is a person who has who, you know, at least from these allegations that when drinking does not remember their behavior.

00:01:26.520 That's what all these allegations say.

00:01:28.600 So another reason why how I don't know how we got here, but this 20, this 17th, July, July 13th deadline seems to be key.

00:01:40.860 And I think you see a person who is really coming forward when there's still time for him to drop out, which I think is also shows that there's some feeling of like this was just what she had to do.

00:01:54.040 And and the fact that there's so much on the women here when clearly this is, you know, multiple women, multiple allegations is just very upsetting.

00:02:06.020 Not a police report. Correct. Correct me if I'm wrong.

00:02:10.380 And there's not a legal case playing out here for due process to see itself through.

00:02:16.700 So my question to you, given the very high standards Politico has before they write something like this and publish it,

00:02:25.260 what aspects of this story brought it to the level of publishable?

00:02:31.660 Yeah, you're correct here, Mika.

00:02:33.840 There is no police report in this case.

00:02:36.680 We spent a lot of time talking to Jenny, asking her for corroborating evidence.

00:02:43.880 She shared that she had confided into a number of people, including her therapist, in almost real time.

00:02:53.160 And we reviewed email exchanges between she and her therapist referring to what she called the sexual assault and her therapist sort of acknowledging that this had happened to her.

00:03:07.440 We talked to people who she confided in in the months after this happened.

00:03:12.300 We asked her why she didn't file a police report, and she described sort of the insular nature of where she lives in her corner of Maine that she shares with Graham Plattner.

00:03:25.740 And she debated sort of how to handle this, and we found ultimately the number of corroborating pieces of evidence to support her story in a way that we could report it.

00:03:42.300 So what are some of those corroborating pieces of evidence?

00:03:46.180 So you've got conversations with her therapist and people who she confided in any any conversations with Graham Plattner at the time of it,

00:03:58.900 where she said, because apparently as part of this story, she says she even confirmed to him that this was not consent.

00:04:06.340 Do you have that? What do you have that actually connects this literally?

00:04:11.700 Graham Plotner to raping this victim.

00:04:17.060 Yeah, she reached out to him the day after via Instagram and essentially, you know, told him that, you know, she didn't want to hear from again. 0.90

00:04:29.220 She told him that morning as well.

00:04:31.840 And, you know, we looked at messages that she had sent to others in the months after this happened through social media.

00:04:41.040 to see those DMs? She tried to recover those DMs. We did not. We were not able to review those DMs,

00:04:50.580 but she described them to us. We also long before he was a public before he was a political

00:04:57.380 candidate, we saw her essentially explain to others that he was, quote, in her words,

00:05:04.420 consensually careless, end quote. Right. But were you able to see the interactions between

00:05:11.320 Graham Plattner and this alleged victim? Did you actually physically see them? Did she produce them

00:05:16.920 for you? She attempted to uncover them, but was unable to. Welcome back. There are growing

00:05:25.920 questions this morning about the health of Republican Senator Mitch McConnell.

00:05:30.440 The Kentucky lawmaker was admitted to the hospital more than three weeks ago, back on June 14th.

00:05:35.700 But his office has only released some vague updates on his condition since then.

00:05:41.500 The latest one from last Thursday states that McConnell, quote, continues to improve,

00:05:46.520 but it offers no specifics about why he was hospitalized nor the type of treatment he's receiving.

00:05:52.960 There's also been no confirmation from McConnell's office as to whether or not the senator is even currently conscious.

00:06:01.100 The New York Times reports that on the morning that McConnell was taken to the hospital,

00:06:05.780 in their words, emergency responders reported performing CPR on an unconscious individual undergoing cardiac arrest at the senator's Washington address.

00:06:14.920 That's according to recordings of dispatcher calls that were widely reported by news outlets last week and obtained by the New York Times.

00:06:22.120 The recordings do not name McConnell as the individual.

00:06:26.040 We should just note that I think this is a storyline that's going to trigger more and more questions in the days ahead.

00:06:31.340 It was the final straw. Enough is enough.

00:06:34.820 And I thought over the weekend, what shall I do?

00:06:37.220 I could go out and try and make some real big money.

00:06:40.680 I could go to the USA where I've got plenty of offers.

00:06:45.580 And then I thought, why should I be judged?

00:06:49.680 today or in history in the future by Sky News and their ilk?

00:06:55.380 Why should they be the people that decide my fate

00:06:58.580 when, as I repeat, I've done nothing wrong?

00:07:03.560 I've thought about it hard and I've decided today

00:07:06.440 today I will resign as a Member of Parliament for Clacton-on-Sea

00:07:11.680 thereby forcing a by-election

00:07:15.140 which should happen, I hope, in short order.

00:07:17.760 No, I've decided that the people of Clacton should be the judges of my actions.

00:07:24.740 This will be a people versus the establishment by-election.

00:07:29.840 It's a chance to stick two fingers up to the entire establishment, to frankly tell them where to go.

00:07:37.940 And that is why I will be putting my name forward to stand in this by-election.

00:07:43.280 I will fight to win. I will fight to continue the political revolution that reform has started.

00:07:50.820 And I would say this to you, the voters of Clacton.

00:07:53.580 If I win, you win.

00:07:56.220 Because if I lose, they win.

00:07:58.900 And we will never, with the two old parties, get the type of fundamental change that we need to fix broken Britain.

00:08:08.180 I don't want to hear all these soccer. 0.99

00:08:10.200 hey bottom line the guy is nigerian they moved to london so he's an englishman but they came here 1.00

00:08:18.200 to have an anchor baby boom she was seven months pregnant shouldn't be on the team oh you can't say 1.00

00:08:23.380 that we're gonna lose well then put americans in if we lose with americans then you lose with 1.00

00:08:29.800 americans you're giving it that you're giving it a uh an effort with americans if you got to go

00:08:35.340 around the world and get foreigners to play for the team then it's not an american national team

00:08:40.660 Sorry, not sorry. 0.98

00:08:43.100 Anchor baby.

00:08:44.440 But here's the thing.

00:08:45.800 If you go a little deeper, you hit the wildest part of the story.

00:08:48.480 Something I have just been savoring all weekend.

00:08:51.560 Which is that the player at the center of the storm, Faller and Balogun,

00:08:55.260 he is essentially an accidental American.

00:09:00.600 My journey to the team is a little bit unique.

00:09:04.300 My mom always told me the story growing up, but I never really paid it any mind.

00:09:07.840 she came to the u.s to visit her sister and she had her return ticket but then they said that she

00:09:15.200 was too pregnant so i was born in new york but grew up in london grew up in london you hear that

00:09:27.720 accent that's not a brooklyn accent in other words the best player on the u.s team the one that

00:09:34.180 we're all hoping plays and kicks butt, is a United States citizen by virtue of one thing

00:09:40.180 and one thing only, and that is having been born here. And being born here makes you a citizen 0.92

00:09:45.820 clear as day in the 14th Amendment of the Constitution passed after the Civil War,

00:09:50.060 a constitutional right the Trump administration has tried tooth and nail to erase and tried to

00:09:57.680 race at the Supreme Court just a week ago and failed. In fact, Flo Balligan's situation is

00:10:04.420 exactly, exactly, precisely the same sort of very rare edge case that MAGA has absolutely lost their

00:10:11.700 minds about in the wake of that loss of the Supreme Court, to the point they are now trying

00:10:16.780 to call women, like Balligan's mother, a scourge on American society. They need to get moving and

00:10:24.060 start deporting people as fast as possible, starting with birthing aged women, the birthing 1.00

00:10:29.540 persons, as the Democrats call it. If a person comes here nine months pregnant to go look around 1.00

00:10:35.400 at some things in a couple of weeks, that is the mother of a lifetime American citizen and a direct

00:10:42.800 line into American cash and welfare for the rest of that child's life. Look, if you're pregnant 0.98

00:10:47.560 and you're from a foreign nation, you know what? It's time for Congress to pass a law to say you 1.00

00:10:52.980 can't come here i wonder if there's any examples out there of the unique advantages that birthright

00:10:59.680 citizenship might confer on the society i wonder if there's any benefits to having a country like

00:11:04.340 that where it's just clear as day if you're born here you're a citizen oh look at that thank you

00:11:09.460 soccer gods here's one right there on the soccer pitch flo balligan is american and that is a

00:11:16.700 wonderful thing but there's a deeper point here right just not just about the accident of of of

00:11:22.080 his birth being here and him being an American, right? For the same reason that international

00:11:27.440 players make the NBA, for instance, a better basketball league and MLB, a better baseball

00:11:31.700 league and educational and work visas mean more brilliant EHDs and engineers and doctors

00:11:36.460 and caretakers and people who do hundreds of jobs that are important that we rely on

00:11:43.180 from first responders to essential workers. Remember that category? Web developers here in

00:11:49.020 america yeah it's a simple dumb obvious point of what is truly exceptional about our nation

00:11:56.220 it used to be just like a cliche that we all just knew in school but somehow has really been lost in

00:12:01.560 so much of the immigration discourse we are a nation of immigrants we are a nation of birthright

00:12:07.140 citizens and that rules what are you expecting and what did you see happen yesterday well first

00:12:14.260 of all the roommate pivotal witness for the prosecution because there were texts between

00:12:19.980 them uh actually tyler robinson calls the roommate my love but when after in the aftermath the the

00:12:27.360 roommate gave all the texts to law enforcement which are very incriminating yesterday packed

00:12:33.220 courtroom erica kirk was in that courtroom the widow of charlie kirk his parents were in the

00:12:38.260 courtroom tyler robinson's parents were in the courtroom opposite sides of course but then

00:12:44.420 Donald Trump Jr. walks in and there were no public statements.

00:12:47.680 Nothing was ever said publicly.

00:12:49.980 He silently was there in the front row with the with the with the family, the Kirk family.

00:12:56.140 But when the proceeding started and Erica Kirk knew she was not going to stay in that courtroom when anything was mentioned,

00:13:02.620 the judge started and the first witness was called Christopher Bagley.

00:13:07.140 He was the officer from the Utah Valley University.

00:13:10.340 He was in an elevated position when the event started at 12 o'clock noon.

00:13:15.140 He witnessed the shot, and the moment he was about to just describe the shot,

00:13:20.680 Erica just jumped up, and she just walked out, and she didn't want to hear it.

00:13:25.460 He went on to say that after the shot, that he looked at all the buildings at the university,

00:13:30.340 and he saw one building that had a flat roof, and he thought, that's got to be the vantage point.

00:13:36.240 And this is a university. There's so many buildings all over.

00:13:38.540 He actually went to that building, climbed up, jumped over the railing, and it was a gravel roof on that building.

00:13:46.440 Listen to his testimony of what he saw once he got up on that gravel roof.

00:13:53.360 Officer, upon seeing this disturbance in the gravel, you've described what it looked like to you.

00:13:58.600 Someone lying down in a prone position, correct?

00:14:01.220 Yes.

00:14:01.420 At that moment, I realized, because it was a direct line of sight, plus the disturbance in the gravel,

00:14:06.300 or I could see somebody laid down in a prone position or a sniper position

00:14:09.920 and asked dispatch to get on the vid.

00:14:13.680 Then I realized that we probably didn't have our shooter in custody.

00:14:18.040 They had arrested someone right off, very close in time,

00:14:22.040 and they realized this is not the person.

00:14:23.940 And so he documented with photographs the gravel.

00:14:26.760 He said he could see an arm, two arms that were there,

00:14:30.040 indentations in the gravel, and then the state forensics photographer

00:14:33.380 came later that night and took some more pictures.

00:14:35.220 then it came to the point there were so many videos because it was a whole crowd shooting so

00:14:40.400 they started to have uh need to play the videos of the actual shot and they were so graphic the

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00:16:43.640 War Room.

00:16:44.580 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:16:48.000 Okay, we have so much to cover, and we're quite truncated.

00:16:52.100 At 11 o'clock, we're going to continue with the continuous coverage on War Room and Real America's voice of the Charlie Kirk, essentially grand jury.

00:17:00.540 Wendy Patrick, a criminal lawyer, is going to join me here momentarily.

00:17:04.540 But I want to know, we're trying to cram everything to the first hour.

00:17:07.640 May not even have a 5 o'clock show or a 6 o'clock show either, as we're going to cover this to its all week.

00:17:13.980 Like I said, there's seven charges.

00:17:15.620 You are essentially sitting in a grand jury.

00:17:17.580 that this this preliminary hearing evidentiary hearing is taking the place of a grand jury out

00:17:23.360 in utah i will get to wendy in a moment i want to thank our sponsors who are bearing with us

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00:18:41.160 there's a lot of confusion. This is not a trial. This is essentially our audience is sitting in

00:18:46.420 kind of as a grand jury, right? This is what, well, you don't really have cross examinations,

00:18:51.820 but explain Utah law. Why are we having this evidentiary hearing that kind of feels like a

00:18:57.340 trial, but it's not really trial. And I keep telling people they're not showing all their

00:19:01.560 cards right now. They're just trying to get, they're trying to put marks, markers on the

00:19:05.520 table that could use stuff in the future, correct? That's exactly right. So yes, Steve, it's not a

00:19:11.600 trial. What it is, is a preliminary examination where the judge only has to find, we keep hearing

00:19:17.620 the term probable cause, that there's enough evidence to proceed to trial. Now, having said

00:19:22.600 that, there's a far less burden of proof is the first thing, obviously. But what you're seeing,

00:19:27.220 what you saw yesterday, and what I imagine we'll see all week long, is both sides are really being

00:19:33.100 meticulous about the evidence they either introduce if you're the prosecutor or object

00:19:37.980 if you are the defense. That's one of the reasons we saw so many objections. But you are correct.

00:19:43.140 The prosecution doesn't have to provide everything they intend to provide at trial, but enough. And

00:19:48.500 they're going to err on the side of caution because this case has been so widely publicized.

00:19:53.760 Charlie Kirk is such a beloved figure. So many people are watching this. They don't want to make

00:19:58.360 any mistakes and the defense on their end wants to make sure they don't miss any objections that

00:20:03.500 they need to preserve the record for appeal so that's why it's taking as long as it is and i

00:20:08.840 would imagine you're going to see more of the same today except steve we are going to see some very

00:20:13.020 different evidence today i just want to you know charlie was such an important figure of course

00:20:22.720 you know he had the 12 o'clock show here for years which we tossed to but more than that he was such

00:20:27.620 an important figure in the American cultural and political scene and obviously a young man who I

00:20:34.140 think people said this guy could be president United States one day the we can't have a

00:20:38.920 situation I don't believe where we can have kind of doubts you can have we can't do a Warren

00:20:44.460 Commission totally gun decked we can't have a situation like with the grassy knoll we have to

00:20:50.680 nail this one you have to stick the landing here and so people should be very meticulous now what

00:20:54.760 i will say is that on both sides there are a ton of people have gone through and yesterday you heard

00:20:59.580 running commentary and i think that commentary is healthy i think it's going to continue on

00:21:04.180 um this is going to take at least all week uh wendy remind people there's seven charges here

00:21:09.780 and the uh and and the defense is going to go for a sweeping you know hey you really don't have

00:21:15.600 anything it doesn't tie together like yesterday in the autopsy correct me if i'm wrong the

00:21:20.660 The objection so that it made I think it made it very difficult even for the audience to kind of to kind of to kind of find that, correct, to kind of follow it, correct?

00:21:29.520 It does. It makes it very difficult for the audience to follow it, because as soon as they're getting into it and enjoying the narrative and they're anticipating seeing the evidence, there's an objection and the evidence is delayed.

00:21:40.720 But, you know, we always say justice delayed is not justice denied in a case like this where you've got all week for the prosecutor to be able to cure any defect.

00:21:50.660 that the judge sees. And that's one of the reasons I think you saw as many objections yesterday as

00:21:55.900 you did. Because one of the things they're looking at is how do you make every bit of evidence

00:22:01.080 authentic? Remember a preliminary hearing, you don't have to show everything. But what you do

00:22:06.340 show, you have to make sure it is absolutely acceptable. It has to be relevant, reliable,

00:22:12.500 admissible. It has to be something that can be published to the media. Remember, this is televised

00:22:18.080 despite and over the defense objection.

00:22:21.300 That's what a lot of litigation leading up to yesterday was about.

00:22:24.420 They wanted to close the hearing to the press and the public.

00:22:26.840 But because it's open, one thing that both sides are very careful about

00:22:31.160 is you have to make sure things are displayed in a fashion

00:22:33.580 that if they're not supposed to be published to the media,

00:22:36.460 they can't be seen on anybody's computer screen.

00:22:39.200 Remember, we actually took a break yesterday in the courtroom

00:22:42.040 in order to do some staging, some reconfiguration

00:22:45.680 to ensure that evidence that wasn't yet admissible to the public didn't inadvertently get to be seen.

00:22:51.540 So we are eventually, hopefully starting today, going to be able to see more of a flow of some

00:22:56.700 of the evidence, but it's only going to be when we finally get to trial that we're going to have

00:23:01.300 sort of an objection-free presentation of the timeline, because the jury is going to hold it

00:23:06.540 against the defense if they do what they're doing now and simply objecting to every piece of evidence.

00:23:11.020 When you say trial, let's say at least some of the charges go forward.

00:23:18.140 A trial here wouldn't be for at least another year, correct?

00:23:21.920 I hope it doesn't take that long, but you are correct in that that's the kind of a timeline in a death penalty case like this one.

00:23:30.140 However, I would say that we're at a preliminary hearing, maybe in less time than it would often take in a death penalty case of this magnitude.

00:23:38.000 So you can see I'm a little bit optimistic.

00:23:40.040 But you're right. You know, between now and a year from now, for example, when it goes to trial, there's going to be a lot of strategy, a lot of rethinking strategy that occurs as a result.

00:23:50.900 But not only of what the judge finds.

00:23:53.200 Won't they throw up, particularly in a death penalty, won't they throw up a million motions?

00:23:57.800 The judge will have to deal with motion after motion after motion.

00:24:00.860 Won't that be one of the defense strategies here?

00:24:05.340 Absolutely.

00:24:06.300 And that's one of the reasons that you anticipate about a year towards starting trial, because

00:24:10.660 in the interim, you have time for all of those motions.

00:24:13.660 You have time for different case strategy.

00:24:16.060 And sometimes you have more motions brought sooner rather than later because the results

00:24:20.320 of those motions are going to determine how each side prepares for trial.

00:24:25.140 If certain things are inadmissible, nobody's going to spend any time on them.

00:24:28.340 You might have a different line of defense.

00:24:30.540 If certain things are going to be admissible, you're going to have to regroup.

00:24:34.500 So, yes, there's going to be a lot of litigation between now and the trial date so they can hit the ground running and won't need any delays.

00:24:43.500 With the text message yesterday, let's talk about the videos.

00:24:46.040 There was this controversy and the people that are online and have a lot of skepticism.

00:24:50.480 And they have a number, I think, lawyers looking at this, you know, constantly giving constant updates to their commentary and what they're seeing on the on the television.

00:25:02.300 Talk to me, what was this issue about the videos, right?

00:25:05.760 We had the clip there from mainstream media that showed the judge, I guess, flinching.

00:25:09.120 Wasn't there some controversy about the videos that they had doctored the videos somehow to make the suspect clearer, but they had actually destroyed the underlying videos?

00:25:21.640 Is that how you took it?

00:25:22.720 Am I wrong in that?

00:25:24.560 Well, partially correct.

00:25:26.160 And the whole first part of that is absolutely correct.

00:25:28.400 What you have in a lot of cases like this is sometimes you have to, I won't say doctor a video, but you refine a video in order to hear it better, see it better.

00:25:36.740 Sometimes you enhance or augment the colors, but that is not meant to change the reality of the video being authentic.

00:25:44.960 What they lacked yesterday was somebody available who was able to authenticate the video in its original format.

00:25:50.360 You had a video that you had some markings on it, some blurring of audience members, some maybe circles or other ways of designating who was where.

00:26:01.420 That's the kind of thing that you do at trial. It's not unusual.

00:26:04.340 But for admissibility purposes during the prelim, the judge wanted a clean copy.

00:26:09.580 And that is what the prosecutor is going to provide today.

00:26:12.640 The video you mentioned in terms of what the judge was watching was when Charlie Kirk was shot.

00:26:18.200 And we all remember seeing that it was so triggering, so traumatizing that you saw, as you mentioned, even the judge flinching in his chair as he watched it and then having to recover.

00:26:28.520 That's the sort of thing that they're also arguing about, because video evidence is very powerful.

00:26:34.200 We just want to make sure that the actual, authentic, real, unchanged video is what the judge sees during this prelim.

00:26:40.000 uh ballistic report and autopsy report and a lot of people commenting that normally

00:26:47.140 a lot of this stuff is public uh at this stage at the grand jury because this is essentially

00:26:53.000 grand jury stage is that correct or incorrect information is not maybe leaked out by the

00:26:58.520 media to the new york times or things or papers like that but is it is it standard practice

00:27:04.160 to have the ballistics report and the autopsy report uh to be close hold

00:27:08.900 it should be closed and these should be the types of things that only come out in the court of law

00:27:14.200 and are not mixed to the court of public opinion and that is one of the things that was litigated

00:27:19.300 and probably would seem to be a problem because the case is so high present

00:27:22.980 wendy can you hang on one second i just want to talk about people understand there's seven

00:27:29.660 charges here this is going to take i think right now the people i've talked to is that this is

00:27:35.080 going to take all week at least right so strap in i would also keep an open mind particularly

00:27:43.960 what a lot of what the skeptics are saying we have to stick the landing here we can't have a

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00:29:26.420 Okay, Wendy Patrick joins us

00:29:28.460 and she is

00:29:29.120 throughout the week doing analysis

00:29:32.720 as a criminal lawyer on what she's saying.

00:29:34.640 It is incumbent upon this audience

00:29:36.200 to keep an open mind here

00:29:38.100 and actually act

00:29:40.760 like you're the grand jury. At the end of the week

00:29:42.680 we'll make sure that somehow

00:29:44.540 we get polling from you guys or

00:29:46.220 feedback from you guys. We have to stick

00:29:48.580 the landing on this. Of course, this is a preliminary

00:29:50.580 hearing like a grand jury.

00:29:52.620 Wendy, I mean, I take it when prosecutions bring these type of things, they feel they have a high probability, like 100 percent, that the judge will prove them to go to the next stage.

00:30:03.040 Correct.

00:30:04.660 That's correct in a preliminary hearing.

00:30:06.540 Absolutely.

00:30:07.340 Because it's the type of hearing where the quantum of evidence required is so low.

00:30:12.240 And you'll notice that yesterday the judge reiterated that standard of proof as well.

00:30:17.240 He said it when he was talking to both sides at one point about being mindful of how much evidence to bring.

00:30:24.080 And you have to believe that is because he doesn't want this going for a month.

00:30:27.480 He wants it to be expeditious.

00:30:29.380 He wants it to be productive in the use of their time.

00:30:32.780 But he's very mild-mannered, as we noticed yesterday.

00:30:35.580 But he did take time to make that reminder.

00:30:38.340 So, yes, both sides are going to abide by that and really try to keep it just what you need

00:30:43.820 to either prove the case or make the objections you need to argue that certain counts haven't

00:30:48.660 been proven during this preliminary hearing this week one last thing about you know they're

00:30:55.000 presenting evidence of his text messages this relationship with the the furry that was his

00:30:59.480 lover will there be any investigation or anything come forward at this stage of anything else in

00:31:06.040 the background either radical these radical transgender ideology militia groups and or

00:31:12.220 other foreign interference here or support or all the things we've heard about, you know,

00:31:18.000 planes flying around and everything related to foreign interference, will that come out at this

00:31:22.880 time? Will the judge require that type of investigation or want to hear that type of

00:31:28.220 investigation? Or do you see enough of this that you don't have to get that deep? And if that was

00:31:32.700 to come out, it would come at a trial? If then, the judge is going to really, really be careful

00:31:39.200 about what is relevant at a prelim stage and any kind of ideology or who is working with who

00:31:45.540 conspiracies other than this defendant is going to be excluded. Now, one of the reasons the judge

00:31:51.060 is going to do something like that is he has to focus on the charges of, especially the charge

00:31:56.200 of murder. So we talk about just the cold, hard facts of the ballistics, the autopsy, the video

00:32:03.160 footage, the confession, the text messages, everything that proves that this defendant

00:32:08.520 committed this crime. Remember, there was even an objection to one of the witnesses identifying

00:32:13.740 the defendant in the courtroom. So they're playing it thin to win is one of the ways I sort of talk

00:32:20.360 about the straightforward way in which a preliminary hearing is conducted. Whether there's other

00:32:25.560 evidence that is going to be admitted during trial, that'll be part of those endless motions

00:32:30.260 that you mentioned, indeed, will be occurring between the prelim and the trial. But I have to

00:32:34.860 say, some people are amazed that, you know, motive matters to a jury and a judge, but you don't need

00:32:40.360 to prove motive to prove murder. However, it almost always comes out in the course of the

00:32:46.200 evidence, and that'll also be a part of this case, but not beyond the defendant. That's the prediction

00:32:51.560 at the prelim, and probably also the prediction at trial. We'll know more about how the judge feels

00:32:56.800 when he delivers his ruling at the end of the prelim. Will that come, you think that will come

00:33:02.680 this Friday or will that come next week after he's listening to everything? Because this could

00:33:06.360 go up, just the courtroom back and forth could take us, since there's seven charges, could go

00:33:13.540 all the way till Friday afternoon, correct? It could go till Friday afternoon, but the judge's

00:33:19.260 ruling is probably already something he's thinking through day by day as he looks at the evidence and

00:33:25.500 where each piece fits into the charges as they exist. If this was a one-day prelim and somehow

00:33:30.400 we did it all in one day no doubt the judge would take a break to to regroup to strategize to make

00:33:36.180 a timeline to do everything that judges do to make sure that they can make a complete record

00:33:41.280 however the fact that there are so many moving parts so many objections here the high profile

00:33:47.660 nature the fact that almost everything's being contested that in and of itself might necessitate

00:33:52.720 a judge taking the weekend not to decide what he's going to do but to articulate the rationale

00:33:57.860 now he wants to put on the record to protect the record from sort of showing why he found the way

00:34:03.980 he did. That is what it's going to take some time if the judge says it's going to come back and

00:34:08.280 deliver the ruling on Monday. Wendy, where do people go on social media to catch you? You're

00:34:14.000 doing great work for us during the day, but where do people follow you? Thank you. Wendy Patrick

00:34:19.000 PhD is my Twitter handle, my X handle. And it's also my website, wendypatrickphd.com. And Steve,

00:34:26.060 I'll point out my PhD is in theology. So I too was a strong follower of Charlie Kirk.

00:34:33.200 Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate you. Appreciate all the work you're doing for us this week.

00:34:37.280 Thank you.

00:34:41.360 Eric Metaxas, the book is number, I think two or three this week, Revolution. What was happening

00:34:47.660 on 7 July in the year of our Lord, 1776, a couple of days after the Declaration of Independence? It

00:34:55.180 still hadn't been totally signed. They'd already landed. The preliminary expedition reports already

00:34:59.520 landed in Staten Island. What was going on today, 250 years ago, sir? Oh, like I'm supposed to know

00:35:05.940 this off the top of my head, Steve. What do you think I am? I haven't read my book recently,

00:35:10.840 but I think what happened, basically, it's an amazing thing. And I love finding stuff like

00:35:18.640 this. When I was doing the research, I was fascinated about how much we don't understand

00:35:23.460 about what actually happened. For example, we all have in our mind the image of them signing

00:35:28.100 the declaration on July 4th, completely invented. It's like the picture of Martin Luther nailing the

00:35:34.620 theses. It never happened, but we all saw the picture, right? What happened, of course, was

00:35:41.200 on July 4th, they voted to accept the declaration. They'd been editing it for two days or whatever,

00:35:50.740 and they edited out the stuff about slavery and the slave trade. So July 4th, they voted

00:35:56.700 to accept the document. So at the head of the official document, which was signed on August

00:36:04.100 2nd, it says July 4th in big letters. So it's kind of like it fools us into thinking what

00:36:10.640 happened July 4th, right? So what happened on July 7th? Well, first of all, now, once they

00:36:17.900 approved it on July 4th, now copies of it, not the official copy. Because remember, the official

00:36:22.700 copy was not assigned, I think, until July 19th. Some guy who makes this official copy, the one

00:36:30.980 that we've all seen with the beautiful handwriting, whatever, that was assigned to whoever does that

00:36:35.560 in Philadelphia, July 19th. And that wasn't done for about a week or something. So the official

00:36:40.880 date to sign it was August 2nd. So what was going on before that? Well, on July 4th, once this thing

00:36:47.460 is approved, pretty soon now versions of it go out everywhere. So in Philadelphia, I don't remember

00:36:55.640 the exact day, but I think it was read aloud in Philadelphia on July 6th. I think Ben Franklin's

00:37:03.340 But their focus, their focus, though, since they're landing in Staten Island, their focus is

00:37:08.440 like, hey, the revolutionary part, the signing of of nice of these amazing documents, but really

00:37:14.560 our declaration war against the crown where we've committed treason by saying this they've now sent

00:37:19.580 the largest expeditionary force in like history is laying in staten island the war of independence

00:37:25.000 which has already been going on for a year it's really about to rev up right oh yeah absolutely

00:37:30.760 listen the british ships appeared started appearing on june 28th so you can imagine george washington

00:37:38.740 down at the Battery, right?

00:37:41.200 I think it was like one Broadway was his mansion

00:37:44.200 where he was staying.

00:37:45.820 And he's watching through his spyglass

00:37:48.140 and he sees the ships coming over on June 28th.

00:37:53.040 They start arriving, okay?

00:37:54.960 They start and they never stop.

00:37:57.580 It's so sick.

00:37:58.680 It's so unbelievable.

00:38:00.000 They keep coming and keep coming.

00:38:01.560 Eventually there would be 400 ships.

00:38:06.160 Now, when you think of a ship, it's like a fortress.

00:38:07.880 We can't – in our day, we can't really imagine what these things were like, the technology of the day.

00:38:12.860 I mean it really is like seeing a battleship with an aircraft carrier.

00:38:16.060 We had 50 tall ships on Saturday.

00:38:19.680 Posa was right there at the battery.

00:38:21.100 That's where he went, right where the troops were.

00:38:23.860 And it blew you away with 50, 52 tall ships.

00:38:27.240 Listen, this was designed –

00:38:28.880 400. 0.99

00:38:30.020 This was designed to terrorize the Americans.

00:38:33.500 The Americans are supposed to go shock and awe.

00:38:36.020 We're out.

00:38:36.960 We're done.

00:38:37.420 leave us alone uh in fact i i wish i knew the exact date but the bottom line is these ships

00:38:42.540 are coming over and so they know this is going down this is happening hang on hang on we got

00:38:47.640 to bounce but if you want to know at all it's in the book and then we can tell metaxas hey metaxas

00:38:54.140 you got to go to page 125 and you see the research how long it take you to research this and write

00:38:58.780 it metaxas because it reads like a novel i don't do it the way you should do it i do it i did it

00:39:04.360 with a level of intensity that kind of makes me nauseated even thinking about

00:39:08.980 it. I mean, it was basically a year and a half. It was just endless,

00:39:12.500 endless reading, writing, reading. I mean, I don't, you know,

00:39:16.140 don't do what I did. It's like Mickey Mantle. Don't do what I did.

00:39:18.700 It's not the way to do it, but I got it done.

00:39:22.140 Metaxas where they get the book. It's number two.

00:39:24.040 I think this week on the New York times bestsellers were driving it to number

00:39:27.020 one. It's a classic. Where do they go to find out where you are and buy the

00:39:31.100 book? I want you to buy the book today to get, listen,

00:39:33.460 If you walk around with it under your arm, people are going to think, that person's very smart.

00:39:37.480 If you actually break it open and read it, you won't be able to put it down.

00:39:42.520 I couldn't.

00:39:43.000 I read it in like two sittings.

00:39:45.200 Yeah.

00:39:45.640 Long sittings, but sittings.

00:39:47.260 Where do people go and where do they go to find you, to shake your hand and thank you and get a signed copy?

00:39:51.700 Yeah, yes.

00:39:52.420 Well, okay, first of all, the best place, the cheapest place right now to order it is Amazon.

00:39:56.780 Please do that.

00:39:58.000 Please, because this is the week, this week, next week, to get it to number one.

00:40:01.960 It's going to be very hard to, you know, get above, I don't know, J.D. Vance or Maggie Haberman.

00:40:06.740 They got these big names out there.

00:40:08.400 But this book is right up top there.

00:40:10.340 And they're still not carrying it in bookstores, which drives me insane.

00:40:13.840 Please, when you go to a bookstore, ask them politely.

00:40:16.720 Do you have this book?

00:40:17.500 It's at the top of the New York Times list.

00:40:18.820 Are you going to carry this book?

00:40:19.940 But I tell people, go to Amazon.

00:40:21.420 My website is ericmetaxas.com.

00:40:23.560 If you follow me there, you get all the stuff of where I'm appearing.

00:40:25.940 I will be in Dallas this weekend preaching at Prestonwood Baptist.

00:40:29.860 uh the week after that i will be in bangor maine uh uh speaking uh the week after that i don't know

00:40:37.500 where i'm going to be after that i think i'll be in in uh murfreesboro tennessee i gotta look where

00:40:42.600 am i going to be oh yes i will be everywhere around the country what's that okay just give

00:40:48.940 us where do people go to find out where you're going to be eric metaxas.com where it says events

00:40:54.160 or whatever uh and i it's such a joy i signed 500 books just the other day uh in washington in

00:41:01.040 leesburg virginia i was at a church there cornerstone chapel it's a joy for me to meet

00:41:06.860 people and sign the books and take pictures and uh very exciting time in the history of our nation

00:41:11.600 this is our supercentennial we got to be crazy excited and we got to know the history i keep

00:41:17.180 saying steve it's mandatory beach reading folks mandatory beach reading it's it's a good beach

00:41:22.540 By the way, it's 250th year.

00:41:24.860 July 4th kicked it off.

00:41:26.160 We're doing this every day.

00:41:28.140 Thank you, sir.

00:41:28.860 We appreciate you, Eric Metaxas.

00:41:31.260 God bless you.

00:41:31.920 Thank you.

00:41:33.600 Gruber, tomorrow, come on here.

00:41:35.560 You're number six in the billboard charts.

00:41:37.920 Wow.

00:41:39.200 I don't want to hear you guys talking smack.

00:41:40.960 Oh, they're just down.

00:41:41.860 Tomorrow, we're actually Pastor Laurie with you, your entire creative team.

00:41:45.120 We got about a minute.

00:41:46.380 Tell people what you accomplished and where do they go to buy this amazing song.

00:41:50.580 one nation hits the billboard top 10 number six it's a remarkable accomplishment by me the team

00:41:56.800 real america's music lj is the guy they're making a move for real america's music man we are so

00:42:02.840 blessed but you've done some great work here letting people know you can get it on itunes

00:42:06.540 any streaming platform itunes spotify amazon anywhere go find the song feel good about america

00:42:13.020 i feel good about it i i can't believe this happened it's like wow i woke up from a dream

00:42:17.180 on billboards top 10 are you kidding me number six it's amazing billboard this is the asset test

00:42:24.500 folks it's like the new york times bestseller you this audience have moved the needle on the

00:42:28.820 biggest cultural things new york times bestseller number two is uh revolution number six on billboard

00:42:35.180 all music all music is one nation gruber uh love you brother we'll see you tomorrow with your team

00:42:42.840 God bless America.

00:42:45.160 Unbelievable.

00:42:46.040 This song is powerful.

00:42:47.180 It's sweeping the nation. 0.99

00:42:48.820 Not just the Christian church. 1.00

00:42:50.160 Sweeping the nation. 1.00

00:42:52.600 Taylor Swift, she was going to be a runaway bride. 0.72

00:42:54.920 She was so concerned about this.

00:42:59.620 What is it?

00:43:00.080 Ella Langley, the greatest talent to come with country music in 20 years.

00:43:03.540 We're closing in on her on the billboard.

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00:44:37.800 to Andrew Colvett and Blake with the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:44:41.880 We're going to go at 11 to the Charlie Kirk,

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00:44:47.320 You are the grand jury.

00:44:49.400 So the audience response has been tremendous.

00:44:53.040 That's what we're doing at Wall to Wall.

00:44:54.380 We want you to see everything.

00:44:55.700 We don't want to cut away for one minute.

00:44:57.420 So I want to thank Real America's Voice,

00:44:58.760 the entire team, and, of course, people like Wendy

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00:45:05.060 So make sure you watch.

00:45:05.820 Of course, Poso is doing his wrap-ups on a day.

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00:45:11.460 See what you see.

00:45:12.720 It's important for you, this audience, individually

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00:45:20.000 You're seeing everything, or you should.

00:45:21.520 Maybe the pics of videos there.

00:45:22.680 You should see everything that goes in the courtroom.

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00:49:58.380 come up, whether it's finding a doctor who's in network or finding a prescription at the

00:50:01.640 lowest cost or appealing a bill or a claim.

00:50:04.140 And as Medicare evolves, which it does all the time, in fact, there's a new program that just launched last week on July 1 called the GLP-1 Bridge Program, where there are new subsidies, functionally subsidies for Americans to get on certain GLP-1s if it's covered by their Part D prescription drug program.

00:50:23.220 And so all of these changes happen all the time in Medicare, and we're there to help people if they have questions or if there are new opportunities for them to save money.

00:50:29.820 just over the past few weeks, we've saved the posse over a million dollars on their Medicare

00:50:34.580 coverage. And that's just in a very short period of time. So there's a lot of opportunity for people

00:50:39.540 to save money and get the right coverage they need. And I need everybody of a certain age,

00:50:43.900 845 War Room. They set this up just for us. The feedback is tremendous. Remember,

00:50:48.560 the Stanford PhD, the specializer that said, hey, he couldn't figure it out.

00:50:52.320 Everybody needs help. I need help. You need help. 845 War Room. This is what Colby did.

00:50:57.260 Colby, thank you so much, and thank you for doing this, sir.

00:50:59.360 I appreciate you.

00:51:00.940 Thanks, Steve.

00:51:05.640 Okay.

00:51:08.060 Wow. 0.62

00:51:09.740 What a miss.

00:51:12.080 I was going to toss to a little special thing we did with Mike Lindell,

00:51:15.100 but, of course, Denver didn't have it loaded.

00:51:18.840 Thanks, guys.

00:51:19.560 Anyway, I'll do the page and go to MikePhillip.com.

00:51:22.880 promo code. Mike's had a little

00:51:24.740 situation with his throat.

00:51:27.040 You know, he gets raspy sometimes, so he's had

00:51:28.900 a little situation with his throat.

00:51:31.240 He'll be back with us over the next couple of days.

00:51:33.300 Okay, we're now

00:51:35.060 going to turn. I need

00:51:37.060 everybody to pile in here.

00:51:40.200 Charlie Kirk.

00:51:42.020 It's unbelievable.

00:51:42.880 Did you ever think

00:51:43.980 that in the 250th anniversary

00:51:46.820 of the revolution that made

00:51:48.900 the greatest nation on Earth,

00:51:50.120 that instead of tossing at Charlie Kirk and Blake and Andrew

00:51:54.280 and their entire team to do what they had done for years

00:51:57.400 right here in Real America's Voice,

00:51:59.180 would it be tossing to a courtroom

00:52:01.000 where the assassination of Charlie Kirk is on full display?

00:52:06.680 We owe Charlie to get to the bottom of this,

00:52:10.720 and we owe the nation to get to the bottom of it.

00:52:13.220 Stick around.

00:52:14.020 We're going live to Salt Lake City in the courtroom.

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Bannon's War Room - July 07, 2026

Episode 5497： Farage Steps Down; Platner Accused Of Rape

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