Bannon's War Room - July 08, 2026


Episode 5501: The New Threat To Our Nation; Pay To Play For America's Vote


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00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:00:07.000 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:00:12.000 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:00:17.000 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:00:19.000 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:00:20.000 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,
00:00:22.000 but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
00:00:24.000 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:00:27.000 MAGA Media.
00:00:29.000 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:34.660 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:38.420 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:44.760 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.
00:00:47.940 Okay, Wednesday, 8 July, year of our Lord, 2026, 250 years ago, today at noon, that would be in one hour, the Declaration of Independence was read aloud in Philadelphia to the populace, first time they had heard it.
00:01:13.820 And it was like a rifle shot. Remember, all the beautiful concepts and language in the beginning is obviously highly motivational, but two thirds of it is a quite in your grill declaration of war against the British crown, an act of treason.
00:01:32.460 all of these folks have been raised to be subjects of the king all of them uh from birth and from
00:01:39.640 their time immemorial were you know raised in the divine right of kings although you had a
00:01:47.340 constitutional monarch they even became more constitutional over time in england this is why
00:01:53.340 it was both commons which was totally corrupted and in the king but it hit like rupture tomorrow
00:01:57.480 by direction of John Hancock, the president of the Continental Congress.
00:02:04.920 Washington read it to his troops right there in Bowling Green and Battery Park,
00:02:10.820 right there overlooking what were the first 50 to 60 warships
00:02:15.800 that were coming into New York Harbor off of Staten Island
00:02:18.240 as the expeditionary force was starting to disembark 32,000 combat troops.
00:02:25.780 That's the bravery and courage.
00:02:27.200 you got to tie both together. The signers of the Declaration, the revolutionary generation
00:02:34.100 knew it was in store for them because this was an act of treason. Why was it an act of treason?
00:02:38.320 Because King George told him that. Dickinson and the crowd months before had worked at a deal that,
00:02:44.740 hey, for John Adams, you know, tone down the radicals of Massachusetts and let's get,
00:02:49.340 let's go to the king one more time. He doesn't fully understand because he's got bad ministers
00:02:53.440 around him, giving him bad information or withholding information. We got to get to him.
00:02:59.740 And then he returned a brutal, in your face, I don't want to hear it. I don't want you talking
00:03:05.880 about it. I don't want you to send any more letters, right? I've heard more than enough.
00:03:09.500 This is all treason. You keep it up. You're going to get the hangman's noose. And that's before,
00:03:14.940 that's just in conversation. That's before they actually voted to be independent. But remember,
00:03:19.760 However, the Declaration of Independence is, at its heart, a declaration of war against the British crown and commons and lords, all of it, the entire apparatus.
00:03:32.540 Don't want to be part of it. 0.99
00:03:33.620 We're not going to be India. 0.99
00:03:34.800 Oh, by the way, we're going to war against the British East India Company, too.
00:03:37.720 We don't like your monopolistic practices.
00:03:41.200 As the signer, the only name on this document was John Hancocks.
00:03:46.420 That's what was so big and beautiful.
00:03:47.640 and his business was he was in the smuggling business he wasn't a big fan of the british
00:03:53.660 east india company so that's where he stood 250 today opportunity costs we're getting sucked back
00:04:00.060 in in a big way in the uh in this middle east war kinetic activity overnight more threatened
00:04:06.960 kinetic activity to come and this is why scott bessen please scott everybody treasury you pulled
00:04:13.260 the licenses which never should have been reissued cut these people off we have a winning hand on 0.93
00:04:19.280 economic warfare crush them no oil nothing goes chinese communist party doesn't get to buy anything 0.97
00:04:26.540 doesn't get to mess with the petrodollar none of it oh by the way let's destroy the currency like 0.92
00:04:31.260 you did back in january they want to be you know death to america all this right you're not going
00:04:39.040 to get regime change, he does not. You saw the five million in the street, and you saw
00:04:43.200 Mark Levin saying he wants to send Marines, he wants to march, he wants to do the march
00:04:46.720 upcountry to Tehran. Well, get a tank, Mark, go over a volunteer, the IDF, become a colonel,
00:04:53.120 get a tank, lead a tank brigade, and go for it. In fact, you can go to Damascus, you can
00:04:57.940 go to Beirut, anywhere you want. As long as we don't have any part of it, go for it. Go
00:05:02.740 for it. Go for it today. Get to Tehran. Let's go. Let's roll.
00:05:05.740 one of the big issues i think a third of the people in obamacare can't afford it anymore
00:05:11.740 because the subsidies are gone dr john ertley from america's health share why are you guys
00:05:18.520 an alternative why is this why is this just not some screwball fantasy that you don't have to
00:05:25.720 have health insurance you guys have actually conceived of a better way so doc what is that
00:05:31.300 better way? Why does this make sense? There's got to be an alternative because people cannot
00:05:36.280 simply afford. They're crashing out of the system that's set up. You take the subsidies away, which
00:05:42.420 the American people can't continue to subsidize it. So you take the subsidies away, and then
00:05:47.160 people can't afford it. So there's clearly an alternative. Why have you guys created an actual
00:05:52.720 alternative for people, sir? Well, Steve, thank you so much, and I appreciate being here with you
00:05:58.480 this morning, America's HealthShare is that alternative to traditional health insurance.
00:06:03.300 And you're right, it's unaffordable and Americans are unable to sustain this. We're subsidizing it
00:06:09.320 and when the subsidies go away, we see just how expensive traditional health insurance is.
00:06:14.040 But with America's HealthShare, we're here to solve that problem and actually fight for
00:06:17.840 these options and this ability to be able to actually take back our health care. And that's
00:06:23.240 why we're seeing such a rapid growth in membership of America's HealthShare is that
00:06:27.840 we are an alternative, but it is affordable. And it gives you the kind of healthcare that puts
00:06:32.580 healthcare decisions back into you and your physician's pocket, really celebrating this
00:06:36.960 healthcare freedom to be able to make sure that people and Americans are able to choose the
00:06:41.120 healthcare that they actually want to choose and not just be forced down their HMO or their PPO
00:06:47.020 plan that they are spending an arm and a leg for. So when people come, how do you explain to them
00:06:54.080 What information they have, because this is a different way of looking at the world, and it's going to take people to kind of get their head around it because so many are used to paying for insurance or just rolling the dice that, you know, I can't afford the insurance, so I'll just roll the dice that nothing happens.
00:07:09.100 What's the process of which you get people up to speed on this?
00:07:13.000 Well, for sure, I don't recommend just rolling the dice.
00:07:15.220 I don't think that's a good and responsible option.
00:07:18.260 And so this is where America's Health shares a way that we are able to take care of health care bills that come on in by not just allowing those premiums to go into a black hole of an insurance company, but you have transparency of where these bills go.
00:07:35.020 And so each member is able to share member to member when you have a medical need or a condition that arises.
00:07:42.460 We also have that flexibility. We actually believe that we want to be able to have prevention and invest into prevention. I believe that healthcare companies should invest into prevention instead of just looking at, you know, instead of just this sick care model that we have.
00:07:58.460 And then when we do get sick, that you have the conventional system if you need it.
00:08:04.360 You have the cardiothoracic surgeon, the interventional radiologist to be able to place that stent.
00:08:10.140 That's great.
00:08:10.900 That's all included in our plans.
00:08:12.680 But you also have the ability to be able to go and receive alternative functional medicine care, to be able to actually look at your own individual case, what's going on with disease, looking at your prevention and your wellness, looking at biological age.
00:08:26.520 how do you biohack? How do you run your hormones to be able to actually balance out your hormones
00:08:31.620 so you're not just being told that you have hypertension or high blood pressure and that
00:08:35.500 you're fat and overweight, but you actually get doctors and have this ability that's included
00:08:40.700 to actually feel better. You can go to your primary care physician, and this is all for
00:08:45.680 zero out of pocket that you get for our primary care visits because we believe in prevention,
00:08:51.180 but you're able to actually get testing that's able to look at hormone analysis.
00:08:55.520 you're able to look at testing to be able to actually look at how your inflammation is going
00:08:59.720 instead of just a cholesterol panel and being fatigued and tired but yet your doctor's telling
00:09:06.240 you well your your cholesterol is high so you need to take this med and now come and see me back in
00:09:11.100 a year i don't think that's very good health care and i think this is where people are disenfranchised
00:09:15.320 but we're seeing this with america is that we're having these options functional medicine alternative
00:09:20.220 medicine that's included in the plan and believe it or not steve it is incredibly affordable
00:09:25.780 Our members overall are saving $1,800 a month, a month.
00:09:31.720 That's what our members are able to save.
00:09:33.900 So it's an incredibly affordable plans and programs that we have, but it also, it's very
00:09:38.740 comprehensive to make sure you and your family are being taken care of.
00:09:42.100 So where do they go right now?
00:09:43.480 The chapter guys on Medicare have now saved the Warren Posse a million dollars and got
00:09:49.620 them in better plans.
00:09:51.080 You guys, I think, are the same type of thing.
00:09:52.840 I want people to go, but the way they did on chapters, our people get immersed and they get a million questions as they should.
00:09:58.520 Where do people go right now, Dr. John, to find out about this, immerse themselves in information, and then talk to you guys directly?
00:10:04.700 Yeah, I want you to go to freedomforhealth.org slash Bannon.
00:10:09.520 Use coupon code Bannon, and you can, well, we're offering free month of healthcare sharing.
00:10:17.100 But one, before you do, come and join, come and ask questions.
00:10:21.320 We have a whole team that's devoted to be able to ask your questions, look at what are potential pre-existing conditions, how does this thing work, how are you guys doing this as far as being able to keep my health care costs much more affordable, and how are you guys doing this?
00:10:37.900 And really learning about that process, just how transparent we are and where you can see those monies go and what's available in the programs that we have.
00:10:48.260 Because it's like I said, there is no health care plan that is as comprehensive.
00:10:54.080 And I've done this because I've been in the world of 25 years of treating chronic disease and cancer with alternative therapies and precision alternative medicine.
00:11:03.220 And we've been seeing this.
00:11:04.800 There's not a health insurance plan that's like it.
00:11:06.780 And this is where when you have this ability to have peptides, you know, HHS is just coming out.
00:11:12.920 They're reviewing peptides to be able to actually allow compounding pharmacies and actually pharmacies to produce them instead of getting them from China.
00:11:20.220 And when we see peptides, they're wonderful for the treatment of disease.
00:11:24.860 And yet this is where this is included in our health care programs.
00:11:28.620 So it's a really beautiful way to be able to save cost and to be able to have a better health care experience with America's health share.
00:11:35.620 So go to freedomforhealth.org, coupon code BANNON.
00:11:42.120 Go right now, immerse yourself in information.
00:11:45.080 You get a free month also.
00:11:46.920 Dr. John Ertley, thank you so much.
00:11:49.080 I appreciate you coming on.
00:11:50.200 I want people to start.
00:11:51.320 You got to do your due diligence, so let's get rolling.
00:11:55.920 The guys at Chapter saved you a million bucks collectively.
00:11:58.900 We're going to have him on tomorrow, Friday.
00:12:01.200 Natalie Winters, in all the great,
00:12:03.960 Since the time you were an intern here and with Rahim, I don't know, eight years ago, I think because of the timing and the stakes, this may be among, if not the most important piece that you've ever laid out.
00:12:17.440 And they just had a meeting with Zelensky because this ties together color revolutions, U.S. money, these foreign groups, and American elections.
00:12:25.900 This is a powerful piece that people have to understand the threat that we have to this nation right now.
00:12:32.800 Natalie Winters, can you walk through what you've got up on your substack?
00:12:36.600 Because I am gobsmacked in reading this, ma'am.
00:12:40.100 Yes, but real quick, I'm just going to fact check you.
00:12:42.980 It was not eight years.
00:12:44.240 You're making me feel old.
00:12:45.680 We would have been violating child labor laws if that were true.
00:12:49.520 But I digress.
00:12:51.100 You know, we're all about starting young here in the war room.
00:12:54.900 But this, Steve, really is an explosive story.
00:12:57.400 I know how much you talk about the foreign financing of the Marxist jihadist wing of the Democrat Party.
00:13:03.820 A lot of people do. But this is actual receipts that show that this is happening, not happening in the future, happening since at least 2024.
00:13:14.580 Basically, there are these foreign NGO type groups. In this case, this is a Berlin based group called Power for Democracies.
00:13:21.540 Their raison d'etre is that they're anti-Trump. They hate authoritarianism. They sound like Rachel Maddow on steroids. But they, and we'll get into it after the break, have copious amounts of fundraising documents advising their donors, so very wealthy Europeans, on specific American left-wing NGOs that they can donate to that will in turn do get-out-the-vote efforts.
00:13:46.560 It is as detailed as pricing out votes up to basically $80 a vote.
00:13:51.980 They're running metrics, numbers, complete statistical analyses to see which NGO is the most effective.
00:13:59.920 And what I think is the most damning is that they are actively working in the midterms.
00:14:03.760 They're talking about 12 to 14 swing states, hundreds of thousands of votes, and they say that they, quote, changed the outcome of national elections.
00:14:11.160 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:14:12.360 This is the way they're going to do it.
00:14:13.240 Hang on.
00:14:13.580 The headline is, Democrat Voting Registration Group Takes Foreign Money to, quote,
00:14:18.720 change the outcome of U.S. elections against Republicans.
00:14:22.640 Natalie G. Winters, her stub stat. 0.99
00:14:24.540 Your jaw will drop, but she brought the receipts.
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00:16:44.200 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann. Okay, in fact, Joe Allen joins me in the war room.
00:16:50.960 Joe, I'm going to get to you in a minute. You got tons of explosive news.
00:16:55.280 People should know behind the scenes, we're working nonstop on AI. We haven't had a lot
00:16:58.580 of on the show because we're so jammed with everything else, although it's the most important
00:17:02.080 thing in front of us, except for stealing elections. Natalie, take it from the top real
00:17:07.540 quickly. How is this even legal? This is outright Berlin. They're advertising. They're putting a
00:17:14.660 price on an American vote, 90 bucks, 90 bucks. You can flip an American vote against Trump.
00:17:21.600 This is Trump derangement syndrome, monetized overseas to steal American elections. And they
00:17:28.020 couldn't be they're so blatant about it i mean they don't even pretend that you know oh but this
00:17:35.280 is you know to to educate etc this is absolutely to register voters to turn them out it's it's
00:17:41.860 the precinct strategy it's scott presser it's everything we've done they've taken it but
00:17:46.360 with foreign money ma'am look you gotta go to the substack and read this piece i have screenshots
00:17:53.260 of the actual documents, and it's worth seeing them in their own words, but there's so many
00:17:58.200 buried leads. I really want to kind of give a blueprint of what this story reveals.
00:18:03.100 One is the direct financial involvement from foreign entities in democratic progressive
00:18:09.480 activist groups involved in voter registration. It proves not only our theory of the color
00:18:15.740 revolution, this idea of anti-authoritarianism, anti-autocracy, that that basically is just this
00:18:21.700 weird pretext to justify, by any means necessary, change of the system. In this case, I think this
00:18:28.920 exposes a very interesting tax loophole and foreign funding loophole that I think House
00:18:35.820 Republicans need to call a hearing tomorrow and subpoena particularly the American group involved
00:18:41.180 in this, which is called freedom to vote, which is because they have identified getting out the
00:18:47.560 vote, right, which is mobilizing people who typically don't vote to actually vote as a tactic
00:18:52.720 to fight against democracy repression, somehow in weird 501c3, you know, bend the USAID mind of a
00:19:02.820 bureaucrat, somehow that allows foreign funds to flow in to this organization because it's not
00:19:10.980 actually an explicitly partisan organization. It's about defending democracy. Now, all of a
00:19:17.540 sudden this new push to defend democracy makes a lot more sense because it's an interesting way
00:19:22.580 to almost depoliticize, right? It's about saving the country. It's not just about winning elections.
00:19:27.740 And I want to get very specific. I want to quote these documents. They describe this as a voter
00:19:32.440 mobilization operation that is capable of, quote, changing the outcomes of national elections. Now,
00:19:38.140 the group that is writing these documents is called Power for Democracies. They're based in
00:19:43.020 Germany. But throughout their website, throughout various PDFs that they've published, they talk
00:19:48.100 about how they have systematically gone through over 100 civil society organizations in the United
00:19:53.600 States, very complex metrics. And they identified freedom to vote, the two is with the number two,
00:20:01.020 one word, as the most effective one that foreigners can donate to. Here's the smoking
00:20:06.040 gun. Here's the quote. A nonpartisan organization under U.S. tax law, freedom to vote maintains
00:20:10.840 neutral language and content and its outreach to ensure compliance. It can receive funds from both
00:20:15.320 U.S. and foreign donors. We are currently recommending Freedom to Vote, a non-profit
00:20:19.200 organization that can receive funds from both U.S. and foreign donors. It's plastered
00:20:23.320 all over their documents, all over their website, and they have a specific plan whereby right now
00:20:28.880 they're targeting the 2026 midterms as part of a plot to basically subvert President Trump's,
00:20:35.020 you know, authoritarian takeover of the United States. They were active in 2024,
00:20:38.700 and basically their broader plan is using 2026 as sort of a proxy for 2028 but right now they
00:20:45.720 have a 19 million dollar target where they want to go after potential voters across 14 they call
00:20:51.680 them decisive states and they deduce from their calculations that that would register more than
00:20:57.540 350,000 americans and generate over 200,000 additional votes in quote pivotal house and
00:21:03.580 Senate races. They've run the numbers from a pilot program that they did in 2024, where they
00:21:08.740 saw a 3.72 percentage point increase in voter registration and a 2.14 percentage point increase
00:21:14.700 in turnout. That was 280,000 new registrations and about 160,000 new voters. They've literally
00:21:21.360 itemized to a dollar amount how much each vote for the midterms will cost using 2024 as a number,
00:21:29.080 saying that a voter registration costs approximately $54 and an actual vote is around $94.
00:21:36.920 That leads them to the conclusion that they have enough tactics, enough potential registrations
00:21:41.700 to mobilize people to actually change the outcome of these elections.
00:21:46.280 Now, this group, Freedom to Vote, which we'll get into what exactly this group is and why
00:21:50.740 describing it as nonpartisan is literally the biggest lie I have ever heard.
00:21:55.260 But this $19 million project that Freedom to Vote is going after, they've only financed about $5 million of that. So they have an outstanding $14 to $15 million. And we'll get into USAID and how that ties into all this, which I do think is a very interesting thing to really prod.
00:22:12.580 So this group, the Berlin-based organization Power for Democracies, is writing these white papers, is advising their foreign donors to put their money into this American group working on get-out-the-vote operations, particularly in swing states, certainly for the midterms, but mainly for 2028.
00:22:30.020 And when you try to figure out, well, who are these people that they're registering? Well, this group, Freedom to Vote, is sort of a shell organization for something that is funded. They use the technological infrastructure provided by an entity called Civitec. Now, Civitec is ActBlue-esque in the sense that it is explicitly partisan. You can actually go to their website.
00:22:51.100 They literally brag about how their technology is so sophisticated.
00:22:55.140 They will minimize unintended Republican registrations.
00:22:58.720 The person who started it was actually the director of vote protection in Florida for
00:23:04.280 none other than Hillary Clinton.
00:23:06.140 The group itself has donated to Democratic state parties, Democratic local committees.
00:23:10.820 They've worked with the DNC.
00:23:12.020 They've worked with Democratic AG committees.
00:23:14.420 They are Democrat through and through.
00:23:17.320 And it's kind of funny, right?
00:23:19.380 it's the typical thing apparently defending democracy is bipartisan but they don't tell
00:23:22.980 you that defending democracy also is synonymous with beating trump that's the little asterisk on
00:23:27.620 it and you can look if the denver wants to put up the the one of the different colors the boxes
00:23:32.600 you can see what their actual strategy is so they go after basically their exclusive
00:23:37.860 proprietary database whereby they can find people that are not registered to vote
00:23:43.660 but should be voting and you can tell how they're going to vote they go after
00:23:47.540 basically former prisoners, people, formerly incarcerated people, whatever the woke ufamistic
00:23:53.780 term for that is, people who recently turned 18 and people who've recently moved. They know that
00:23:59.000 they have the most success in demographics that are black and Latina, so democratic strongholds,
00:24:04.660 and how they actually do it, which is really wild. Again, a foreign funded organization 0.77
00:24:10.660 and some American money may be flowing into this too, but they're only getting four out of the 20
00:24:15.900 million they need from American donors, and they're not disclosing where the money's coming
00:24:19.480 from. But they literally, to these people that they identify, no Republicans, only potential
00:24:25.160 Democrat voters, they mail, quote, this is a quote, nearly completed registration forms and return
00:24:32.000 envelopes directly to eligible citizens in key states and districts. Follow-up communications
00:24:37.220 provide reminders and assistance to ensure completion. Let that sink in. This group is
00:24:44.060 literally two future democrat voters basically mailing them an entirely completed form all they
00:24:49.720 have to do is return it they've done so much legwork into finding out who these voters are
00:24:53.440 and what's so interesting and where this really merges steve with our whole color revolution
00:24:58.140 framework is that if you read these documents not just encouraging people to donate to freedom to
00:25:05.540 vote but their approach to influencing u.s elections like they don't even think it's wrong
00:25:12.760 um there's i mean paragraph after paragraph about you know everything we've talked about
00:25:17.480 democratic backsliding all these really loaded political science jargon terms to justify
00:25:21.520 basically overthrowing trump as if he is to use a phrase a king right no kings um they talk about
00:25:27.420 how it's a test run for 2028 they talk about one of the reasons that they need to oppose donald
00:25:31.720 trump is because he cut fund funding to programs like usaid specifically quote given the role the
00:25:38.340 united states plays in guaranteeing the security of many other democracies it is not only the
00:25:42.460 future of democracy in the united states that is at stake but the future of democracy around the
00:25:47.020 world another quote reducing the likelihood that u.s foreign policy undermines democracy supports
00:25:52.080 autocrats or supports and commits mass atrocities is crucial and depends upon who wields power
00:25:56.660 across the branches of government now they literally have a whole report basically their
00:26:01.960 assessment of like what's wrong with the united states government what would be more amenable to
00:26:06.360 the interests of you know european elites and more broadly this whole democracy movement um but this
00:26:12.140 is probably the most explicit example I have ever seen, not just a foreign collusion, but of really
00:26:19.140 the convergence of EU elites with the progressive left over here, which EU elites code for really
00:26:25.880 far left Marxist extremists, actually colluding, exploiting tax loopholes. I do think I can't sit
00:26:34.100 here and give you the evidence for it right now because it's so hidden the way they do the
00:26:37.820 structure of these grants. I find it very weird that they're so upset over USAID. And when you
00:26:43.680 want to kind of see what these anti-democracy or pro-democracy projects were actually being
00:26:48.240 funded, this is the kind of stuff that's really shady. We're going to make sure you brief over
00:26:54.340 DOJ. I'm going to have you back on tomorrow. We got to get ready for the Charlie Kirk of it all.
00:26:59.220 Where do people go? I need people today to read in detail, line by line, this piece by Natalie,
00:27:06.300 the investigative piece and to share it and there's going to be much more coming from this
00:27:11.100 um the engine room people are already blowing me up to say they know they said hey this is what
00:27:16.020 they've been doing in in europe and particularly eastern europe sourcing these guys in hungary for
00:27:20.580 years they're taking this model and now coming to the united states natalie where do people go
00:27:25.300 the substack to get this where they go for your social media man we need to see the uh the
00:27:30.620 subpoena's flying. How about that? You can go to nataliegwinters.substack.com. You can follow
00:27:37.680 me at nataliegwinters on X. But seriously, freedom to vote needs to be subpoenaed. You need to see
00:27:42.640 the money. And I think that this can unravel a lot of the foreign funding stuff. And close the
00:27:47.380 tax loophole. My goodness. We started with Mike Howe suing the DHS for right stats.
00:27:55.180 We've got fit in suing. We're not going to have Natalie Winters. We're going to get to the bottom
00:27:59.500 of we're not going to have natalie's natalie amazing work like i said of all the great great
00:28:04.700 amazing investigative reporting you've been doing this is uh this is top of the stack
00:28:09.740 particularly the timing is exquisite thank you ma'am i appreciate you as always
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00:30:08.300 we're back to policy questions which is they're going to be policy efforts to kind of prevent
00:30:11.880 medicine from happening or robotic medicine from happening but the capabilities for sure are going
00:30:16.620 to be are going to exist i mean the the dr chad gpt is a better doctor than 99 percent of doctors
00:30:22.600 like it people like hate you know i don't know doctors hate when you say but like it is it is
00:30:27.040 it just is it really is um we have all these new companies uh we have this company about a break
00:30:32.240 one of our companies open evidence that's actually the ai medical uh service that a lot of the
00:30:35.960 doctors use um and uh it's it's swooping the medical medical field and it's great by the way
00:30:41.200 as a patient you really want this because you want your doctor to have state-of-the-art ai right
00:30:44.340 supporting all of their um you know but by the way if only to just have all of the information
00:30:49.220 at their fingertips right to just like really understand you know because no human doctor can
00:30:53.080 possibly read all the medical literature and keep up with it every year and so even even just to be
00:30:57.200 able to know like what the latest results are yeah i'll give you an example just uh drug uh drug
00:31:02.480 drug interactions like you know drug conflicts you know people people when people get sick they
00:31:07.240 don't over time especially older people they don't tend to get sick with just one issue they tend to
00:31:10.740 have like three, five, seven, 10 different things going on. And then they get three, seven, 10
00:31:15.220 different kinds of medication that they're supposed to take. And then there are drug
00:31:18.600 interactions and it's quite complicated. But I think just the fact that Dr. Chad GPT is just
00:31:23.060 so good out of your pocket, I think it's going to kind of force the issue. Okay. A couple of things.
00:31:27.440 Number one, I didn't give you the number. Chapter 845, War Room. They've saved the Warren Posse
00:31:33.180 a million dollars already. I think they've only been doing this for a month. Go check it out.
00:31:36.860 don't take it from me free no obligation check that out today um mark andreason just to make
00:31:43.060 you feel better at home he's now a president point president trump's appointee on the defense
00:31:48.200 on the defense policy board the board that kind of it's kind of the board of directors for the
00:31:53.280 department of war i kid you not for the pentagon mark andreason also there's a bunch of analysis
00:31:58.940 and stats that i don't think i've put up this morning on getter but i will i'm going to break
00:32:02.920 it down tomorrow. It proves the case of what Stephen K. Bannon has been saying, because
00:32:07.220 analytically, they show the massive investment in AI and investment in all other industries,
00:32:13.840 essentially a net zero. Our country right now is hurtling down a highly leveraged bet
00:32:20.680 on massive productivity increases from AI that doesn't lead to mass layoffs.
00:32:27.260 I think it's the riskiest bet in like the history of rational thinking,
00:32:30.720 because now everybody's kind of, you know, oh, my gosh,
00:32:33.780 is this really going to have a thing?
00:32:34.800 But the money and the capital is amazing.
00:32:38.200 When I talk about opportunity costs, the capital going in there
00:32:41.280 is opportunity costs and it ain't going anywhere else.
00:32:43.820 And so no other really major innovation.
00:32:46.480 I'll break all that down tomorrow.
00:32:49.300 Mark Andreessen.
00:32:50.640 By the way, the last thing, CNN, is it a puff piece?
00:32:55.880 Can I call it a puff piece?
00:32:56.800 Oh, I don't know. 1.00
00:32:57.540 No, by the way, it's one of their toughest—Hadis Gold is one of the best people we're seeing in, and she's a hammer. 0.98
00:33:05.100 I mean, she's a total hammer, but I think she succumbed to the southern charm of watching Joe Allen.
00:33:10.860 I think it's not just your intellect.
00:33:13.220 I think it's your humility when you go in front of these, because you're used to seeing Marc Andreessen's, right?
00:33:18.800 Your humility when you go in front of these church groups, et cetera, and your accessibility when talking about artificial intelligence, sir.
00:33:25.540 Well, I do my best.
00:33:27.020 It's not the easiest topic to wrap your head around.
00:33:29.740 I can't say that I've wrapped my head around it 100 percent, but to the extent that I can communicate the intention of the people creating this technology, where they see it going and what it would do to the lives of all these regular people should it actually be realized.
00:33:45.440 I mean, I do my best to give them the warning that they need to hear without freaking them out too much, although it's kind of impossible not to freak them out a little bit.
00:33:53.120 I mean, you hear what Marc Andreessen said there.
00:33:56.140 Doctor chat GPT is better than 99% of human doctors.
00:34:00.860 Aside from the fact that that's total BS, the chatbots, even the best among them, consistently hallucinate.
00:34:08.740 So how can he say that?
00:34:10.220 Hallucinations, you've done more than anybody to show how big hallucinations are as a problem that hasn't been overcome.
00:34:16.140 It's only getting worse in many regards. 0.91
00:34:18.080 How can he sit there and tell people, hey, a ChatGPT doctor is 99% better than a human? 0.69
00:34:25.600 Well, there's two ways that he can justify that, I suppose.
00:34:28.260 Number one, he's really intoxicated on the idea of this technology.
00:34:33.200 If you read his techno-optimist manifesto, it's pretty clear that he believes that these technologies will completely save the human race.
00:34:41.480 In the same way that religious people believe that their god will save the human race,
00:34:46.860 he believes that technology will especially artificial intelligence so he's got the belief
00:34:51.160 there now i'm not really sure if he really believes what he's saying when he says that
00:34:55.600 chat gpt is better than 99 of human doctors but he is very much invested in that idea so
00:35:02.240 he stands to make a lot of money he's got financially invested not just morally or
00:35:06.060 intellectually invested yes i mean you know if you look at the spread at andreason horowitz you've got
00:35:11.180 Hippocratic AI, Ambience Healthcare. He was just talking there about open evidence. These are all
00:35:17.460 part of his little tech stack. These companies that are using, they're kind of wrappers for
00:35:22.340 the big, large language models like OpenAI. So the idea is we will, from the Andreessen Horowitz
00:35:29.380 perspective, we'll provide the capital. These startups will provide advice to doctors. But if
00:35:36.940 you get people to the point that they believe that chatbots are in fact better than 99% of human
00:35:43.480 doctors, 100% of human doctors, that means a few different things. One of the obvious ones is that
00:35:50.180 every doctor, and eventually legally speaking, most likely should this kind of belief pervade
00:35:56.360 the system, every doctor will have to defer to a chatbot or at the very least consult a chatbot
00:36:03.220 in any interaction with this patient.
00:36:05.520 It means that the AI now becomes the essential mediating factor
00:36:10.740 between the doctor and his patient.
00:36:12.960 It's extraordinary that you have that claim
00:36:15.660 given all of the hallucinations, given the risk.
00:36:18.460 I'm not saying that these bots aren't capable of raking over
00:36:22.780 the medical literature and very often coming back with accurate results,
00:36:27.060 but it's just simply a crapshoot in many ways.
00:36:30.240 The bots will consistently hallucinate, which means that the doctor then needs to be using his or her critical faculties.
00:36:39.220 And it's also the aspiration of little kids who want to be doctors and registered nurses and that it's a little kid sitting there.
00:36:46.600 You're really not your career. You're going to be like a under the hood mechanic, right?
00:36:50.760 You're not going to because the doctor is going to be the the thinking machine.
00:36:54.380 That's what he's saying. That's what's so hard. That's one of the many things is so horrible about this.
00:36:58.720 You have it from the medical perspective, right?
00:37:01.440 So the doctors are kind of trained to defer to these bots.
00:37:05.520 Their critical thinking withers.
00:37:06.940 Their connection with the patient withers.
00:37:09.000 It becomes more of that kind of streamlined, industrialized, frictionless health care.
00:37:15.980 They're trying to build a frictionless world.
00:37:17.440 But then you have all the people that go to ChatGPT for medical advice.
00:37:21.700 You had Sam Altman.
00:37:23.160 You had Elon Musk.
00:37:24.100 both of them in a very reckless fashion suggested or actually just simply said musk reckless yeah
00:37:31.500 simply told people to to upload their medical data upload what they could about their symptoms
00:37:37.720 and whatnot into grok and elon musk case or chat gbt and altman's case and have the bot give them
00:37:44.260 the diagnosis now again not only do you have the problem of inaccuracy there but if you have a lay
00:37:50.500 person who's trying to basically suss out their health issues with a bot, they're not going to be
00:37:56.760 equipped to understand what is and isn't a mistake. And I mean, OpenAI reported that some
00:38:01.660 40 million healthcare queries come in per day to chat GPT. So it may produce some benefits. I mean,
00:38:11.420 we've all had situations where we Googled symptoms that got past our doctors. But I think that not
00:38:17.000 only do you have the reliance on the doctors is a big problem. The reliance of the doctors on
00:38:21.380 these bots is a big problem, but just people in general coming to trust the bots. Now you expand
00:38:25.520 it out. It's not just healthcare. It's in business, financial analysts. You have it used, you have
00:38:33.380 bots being used, the agents being used constantly to go out and perform kind of digital tasks on
00:38:40.780 behalf of all sorts of different job positions. You have the education problem, which I think is
00:38:47.480 probably the worst, because as we go through the next five to 10 years and this up-and-coming
00:38:53.640 generation begins to take responsible positions in society, they're going to be, not all of them,
00:39:00.220 thank God, but just so many of them are going to be completely dependent on digital technology for
00:39:06.420 anything they do. They've been allowed to pass through these institutions using chat GPT or
00:39:12.600 other AIs to analyze the stuff for them, break it down, and also to write the programs.
00:39:17.260 You're being too kind about this. You're talking about an industrial program here
00:39:20.700 backed by every investment dollar in the United States and putting this in hock that that
00:39:26.300 essentially ends humanity. That ends us as a species that has flourished and survived and
00:39:33.100 move forward with critical thinking drive and ambition what you're talking about is we're just
00:39:37.880 caretakers you know we're just caretakers at first and then we're totally controlled by the machine
00:39:42.920 is that not correct yeah absolutely you know the good news to me anyway i mean in silicon valley
00:39:49.640 this is not good news you found good news out of this if you look especially at the reaction of gen
00:39:55.600 z to these technologies it's extremely skeptical at least statistically speaking nice because if
00:40:01.040 here to address and I said, this guy's dangerous. Yes. And, and then you've got plenty of religious
00:40:06.540 people who are now really waking up to the problem. And even if they accept some level
00:40:11.020 of digitization, they're not completely succumbing. That's Catholics in a big way. 0.92
00:40:16.180 You see it with Pope Leo and his encyclical, but you also see it among Protestants. You really see 0.79
00:40:20.660 it among the Orthodox. You see it among Orthodox Jews. You see it, you know, for what, for what
00:40:25.420 it's worth, you see it to some extent among Muslims. And I'm very curious how, like, for
00:40:30.320 instance like the eastern religions hinduism all that how they're really responding but we'll put
00:40:34.420 that aside in america in america you have a substantial number of people if you look at the
00:40:39.180 polling a substantial number of people a majority of people in some polls it's a slim majority in
00:40:44.180 some it's a very large majority depending on the questions but our side but i but i saw our side
00:40:50.620 is gaining momentum every day we see our battles in capitol hill president trump came out and said
00:40:55.300 you know we need some guardrails for this right we are winning this fight as long as you dig in 0.96
00:40:59.820 and don't succumb to that crap of Andreessen and these people 0.83
00:41:03.160 that are all doing it to put more money in their pocket 0.98
00:41:05.460 and gain more power, we're going to win this.
00:41:08.240 Absolutely.
00:41:09.020 This is like the American Revolution.
00:41:11.280 The odds are long, right?
00:41:13.000 A lot of people want to take the under, but we've got this
00:41:15.960 if we just don't stop fighting.
00:41:19.120 I see it on the Republican side.
00:41:20.900 There's a lot of incentive, I think, to back business,
00:41:23.600 and AI is nothing else. 0.99
00:41:25.400 They're paying off these scumbags in town. 1.00
00:41:27.100 What the hell? 1.00
00:41:27.480 Mike Howe started to show Mike Howe.
00:41:29.600 who's the greatest guy and biggest supporter of President Trump,
00:41:32.540 has got to do a mass deportation coalition, which hath the Warren Posse,
00:41:36.160 and they're suing the federal government today because they're lying about the statistics.
00:41:39.960 The people that support it most look, and the reason is that, just like in mass deportations,
00:41:45.720 the Republican Party elites and the consultants around them are totally bought and paid for.
00:41:51.060 A thousand percent.
00:41:51.860 A thousand percent.
00:41:53.920 You're not a crazy political guy.
00:41:55.980 In fact, what I admire about you, you don't really want to get involved in the politics.
00:41:59.600 You're kind of wonderfully naive that way.
00:42:03.300 No, but it's good.
00:42:04.240 But you see it here in this town.
00:42:05.920 It shocked you, has it not?
00:42:07.300 I mean, the money is flowing from all sorts of directions, right?
00:42:10.900 I mean, for someone to exist, they have to get paid.
00:42:14.060 A lot of people, though, is well beyond just subsistence.
00:42:16.840 I mean, you're talking about millions of dollars to say anything to defend big tech, anything whatsoever.
00:42:22.940 And they will.
00:42:23.540 And it's ridiculous to the degree that someone like Marc Andreessen gets the support of so-called thinkers, right?
00:42:29.000 this idea that ai is better than 99 of doctors or ai is better than 99 of teachers or in the
00:42:36.820 military context i mean as you mentioned mark andreessen is now uh basically integrated into
00:42:43.320 the department of war as a policy analyst he's on the board yes he's on the board of directors
00:42:49.620 now what happens when people start buying into some rant about ai being better than 99 of
00:42:55.340 commander so is carp at least carp for all of his insanity has the wherewithal to understand that
00:43:01.660 the the other side of silicon valley that's so intoxicated with the llms are at least way out 0.95
00:43:07.340 over their skis and carp i mean he's a lunatic in and of you know no but he's for him to be telling
00:43:12.500 the truth but he does he does cut to the chase and back a lot of what we're saying if you cut
00:43:16.680 through the madness and the surveillance state madness okay hang on right there i gotta hold you
00:43:20.940 through the break because i gotta talk about this chronicles piece i want everybody to since you're
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00:46:34.020 Okay.
00:46:34.900 The president's about to step up in a carrot.
00:46:37.120 We're going to cut right to it.
00:46:38.840 Think of the irony.
00:46:39.880 Every day for years, we would toss to Charlie Kirk in the Charlie Kirk show.
00:46:44.360 We're going to toss, and I think the president will probably do on the stream, but we're going to toss to the courtroom where the assassination, evidentiary trial on the assassination of Charlie Kirk continues.
00:46:55.640 And I will tell you that it's pretty heated out there, people's observations about this, and we'll hopefully get to all that by weeks in.
00:47:03.560 We're covering this, so you're the grand jury.
00:47:05.300 That's why we're doing it, wall-to-wall coverage.
00:47:07.000 we'll be back tonight may not be on but we'll be back i think during the break so at least we'll
00:47:11.940 get 15 minutes with you last night we had like 20 uh and and and wendy packs is going to be with us
00:47:17.100 uh you're on fire i want to talk about this chronicles piece and by the way if i got to
00:47:21.440 cut to the president you got to cut the president tell me about chronicles and other writings it's
00:47:25.740 now a perfect time to immerse yourself in joe allen thought right you're like she joe allen thought
00:47:32.660 right and this is the best time to do it because folks this battle we're at the top of the first
00:47:37.340 inning on this we're at the top of the first thing so we gotta gird ourselves for a long
00:47:42.700 very tough fight against very long odds joe allen as they may say at the anthropic enter the j space
00:47:50.140 big buzzword at the moment yes uh chronicles magazine the new uh july issue i've got a piece
00:47:57.600 in there called the specter of a cyborg theocracy i was really flattered that they invited me to
00:48:03.620 write for this issue it's dedicated to ai you're the sam francis of this uh of the uh of the anti
00:48:09.320 of the luddite movement right now well i would say that sam francis's idea of anarcho-tyranny
00:48:14.780 maps pretty well onto the silicon valley approach to he's extremely controversial but pretty
00:48:20.240 prophetic yeah i mean you know everybody has their opinions but when you're right you're right
00:48:24.840 And Sam Francis was right about many things, not least of which anarcho-tyranny.
00:48:29.340 You can see it on the streets of America every day, and you can see it in the way in which
00:48:32.840 people are picked apart at the upper echelons of society for the most minor infractions.
00:48:37.620 But yeah, a specter, the specter of a cyborg theocracy.
00:48:42.280 You can find it at the top of my social media, linked at J-O-E-B-O-T-X-Y-Z.
00:48:47.620 You can find it on the Chronicles website.
00:48:49.340 And I really encourage you to go to the Chronicles website because, again, the entire issue is dedicated to artificial intelligence, its promises, its perils.
00:49:01.300 You could say that I'm kind of the token Luddite that they invited to really explain to people what Luddite means and why it's so important.
00:49:08.520 It's been mocked and reculed, but what they did had some brilliance to it and why it's so important today.
00:49:12.940 Yeah, well, I urge you to pick up a copy of Dark Aeon Transhumanism and the War Against Humanity for a treatment of Ned Ludd and the Luddite Revolution.
00:49:22.900 But yeah, at the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, you had this sort of mythical figure, Ned Ludd, and all of these people who were rebelling against the industrial policies that were replacing weavers with the textile mills, with kind of automated, you could say, or machine-based weaving.
00:49:40.120 And they were smashing up the weaving machines because the machinery was taking their jobs.
00:49:46.440 They weren't necessarily anti-technology.
00:49:49.040 They were just anti-technology taking their jobs.
00:49:52.080 And so, you know, Luddite and neo-Luddite has become kind of a smear word.
00:49:56.880 It's kind of like a racial epithet among the tech elite to call anyone who isn't on board with any reckless technology whatsoever a Luddite.
00:50:04.620 Anybody who they consider a non-accelerationist, and we are proud to be the decelerationist camp.
00:50:10.120 right and but they call us they smear us from being luddites i mean obviously this show and
00:50:14.440 pretty much every thing that we do and this is a big part of the piece on cyborg theocracy everything
00:50:19.680 we do is mediated by some technology or another it's just a matter of choosing wisely which
00:50:25.900 technologies to adopt and more importantly which ones to reject uh there is a you know a thesis
00:50:32.180 i've worked with for years now for really it was kind of at the tail end of dark aeon and it's
00:50:37.560 embedded in dark Aeon itself, but the idea of AI kind of becoming a god, right? I'm not saying it
00:50:45.460 will become a god like a superintelligence necessarily, but if you look at religious
00:50:50.060 culture, it hinges on belief. And the belief of any religious culture or subculture will determine
00:50:56.600 the behavior of the people in that culture. And so if you look at AI as a tool, then yes, of course,
00:51:03.500 you will treat it as a tool but even as a tool it begins to uh elicit emotional feelings it's a
00:51:11.480 teacher right people come to trust it as a teacher it becomes for many people a companion
00:51:16.320 it becomes for many people in their own minds they they look at it and they say oh this thing
00:51:20.800 is a creature it's it's a conscious being and then the more you offload your cognition the more you
00:51:26.680 grant it authority over what is and isn't real or even the authority of the legal authority to
00:51:32.180 determine who is and isn't a legitimate target it becomes a god ai the tool that becomes a god so i
00:51:38.420 lay that thesis out in this piece the specter of a cyborg theocracy in gotta read it chronicles
00:51:45.080 magazine he's on me in the road but we're gonna game on i want to go through this cnn piece which
00:51:49.080 started as a hit piece and became the exact opposite you know why they followed joe allen
00:51:54.380 around and saw the way he communicates with people and gives working class and middle class people in
00:51:58.960 the great hinterland of this nation access to make sure that they can use
00:52:03.040 their agency in making decisions about this technology has a lot of promise,
00:52:08.260 but also you're looking over the pit of hell. Where do people go, sir?
00:52:12.880 Go to my social media, top of the page, 0.99
00:52:16.140 link to the article at J O E B O T X Y Z on X and get her.
00:52:21.160 And of course go to Chronicles magazine.
00:52:23.140 I think it's chroniclesmagazine.com and my website,
00:52:26.560 JoeBot.xyz. Again, I really encourage you to check out the piece, AI Confidential, How
00:52:32.480 to Interrogate a Digital Mind. It will really show you the power, but also the weakness
00:52:38.600 of artificial intelligence, how that's determined.
00:52:40.960 Chronicle is a very storied, very storied and really incredible. They asked Joe to write
00:52:47.440 this piece. We're going to push it out. Birchgold ends on the 10th. Text Bannon, B-A-N-N-O-N
00:52:53.080 988-9898. Talk to Philip Patrick. Don't miss the opportunity to get a free ounce silver round.
00:52:58.560 Okay, we're going to toss to the Charlie Kirk assassination evidentiary hearing,
00:53:03.040 the grand jury hearing in Provo, Utah. Wall-to-wall coverage. Austin, President of the United States
00:53:07.380 is going to do a press conference. And Cara, you've got a busy afternoon. We're back there at five.
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