Bannon's War Room - Episode 5503： The Woke Odyssey

00:00:00.000 The process that we have put in place to convene a nominating convention was voted on by those

00:00:07.140 Maine Democrats, and that vote passed with over 82 percent of the vote, which is a full

00:00:12.980 endorsement of the direction that we are taking to replace this nominee.

00:00:18.000 We are, of course, going to require folks to talk to Maine voters in some way that's

00:00:23.260 going to qualify them to be our U.S. Senate nominee beyond just declaring their intent.

00:00:28.840 What that will most likely look like is petition collection from Maine Democratic voters across the state.

00:00:37.880 We should note the White House provided that audio to the news media.

00:00:49.460 MSNOW has reached out to McConnell's office for comment.

00:00:52.840 We have not heard back.

00:00:53.900 look um was it yesterday that it seemed like everybody and their mother and the republican

00:01:00.800 party apparatus had a 20-minute conversation with mitch mcconnell now shout out to the staff

00:01:05.240 and the comms people because they're like make sure you say it was good and he had good things

00:01:09.900 to say but is it true that people have been speaking to senator mcconnell and i think that

00:01:14.960 this matters for one because he's being paid by the taxpayers but also two i just i just keep

00:01:20.200 going back to the fact that on june 14th he was hospitalized he was he went to the hospital and

00:01:25.460 he has not missed a paycheck he is getting the health care that he needs and there are

00:01:30.240 a lot of americans across this country where that is not their reality in this situation yeah

00:01:34.840 i agree it should be i agree and someone else who said it on our air is barbara boxer i want

00:01:39.660 to play what she said i thought it was really poignant this is a public office we don't work

00:01:47.120 in the private sector and you need to just get out there with the truth and i am stunned at what

00:01:54.340 has been going on and i don't think that the people should stand for it i think just to start

00:02:00.020 us off tonight i want to level set because i i am proud of this table and i'm proud of uh the

00:02:07.880 narrative of this show because um close to a year ago we first warned we said he was gonna

00:02:12.940 People were like, y'all are being dramatic.

00:02:15.860 This is where we would end up.

00:02:17.760 And so having said that, it is also very, very important to hear a governor like Westmore, governor like Beshear and others lean into this conversation because it will be state officials, folks.

00:02:31.160 At the end of the day, as a former state official, I can tell you it will be state officials who are going to be the bulwark from the governor on down across the state against what this administration has already got in the works, let alone what they're planning to do next.

00:02:48.040 You know, it's interesting.

00:02:49.420 Jack Smith was on our air last week and he said that he was absolutely concerned about this.

00:02:54.120 And I think that someone of his stature saying that just magnifies how important this issue is.

00:02:59.040 You look at the list of things that we're going to talk to Mark Elias about today.

00:03:02.840 You have stuff where the Trump administration is withholding funds that have been earmarked for counterterrorism until states adhere to what they want.

00:03:10.780 Blackmailing states.

00:03:11.600 It's a racket.

00:03:12.340 You have this idea that you're going to send local monitors into Michigan elections because they're uncomfortable with what's happening there.

00:03:20.080 So you're starting to see them roll out all the things they want to do, which is a suppression tactic.

00:03:26.080 Now, why are they doing that?

00:03:27.320 Because where is he polling?

00:03:29.040 In the 30s, right?

00:03:30.460 In a free and fair election, this is a big Democratic win under what we know elections to be.

00:03:37.040 The only way for that not to happen, for where we stand right now, is if they suppress the vote.

00:03:43.120 And that's what they're trying to do.

00:03:44.380 I'm concerned about what people who believe the lie are willing to do.

00:03:49.880 Same thing like the people who believe the big lie in 2020.

00:03:52.700 I'm concerned about what people who believe this lie are willing to do this November and November's after that.

00:03:58.280 Yeah, no, look, I think you're exactly right.

00:03:59.920 I mean, you know, what we've seen is that Donald Trump has a progression that he goes through.

00:04:04.180 He stakes out an unreasonable position.

00:04:06.520 He raises the rhetoric around it.

00:04:09.000 When that doesn't do what he wants it to do, he goes to court.

00:04:12.780 When the courts shut him down and he loses in court, then he escalates to further rhetoric and inspires his supporters to use extra legal methods.

00:04:24.640 Now, if what I just described sounds like what happened in 2020, it is, right?

00:04:29.960 Donald Trump attacked mail-in voting before the election.

00:04:32.700 He attacked the election results afterwards.

00:04:35.200 He went to court.

00:04:36.000 When that didn't work, he then incited a violent insurrection.

00:04:39.380 But, you know, you could look at what he did with immigration through the same lens.

00:04:42.680 He demonized migrants.

00:04:46.240 He increased the rhetoric.

00:04:48.600 Then there were court cases about, for example, him trying to send people out of the country to foreign gulags.

00:04:53.200 And when that failed, you saw U.S. citizens being killed in the streets in places like Minneapolis.

00:05:01.480 And so, like, I very much worry that this November, as we head towards these elections, Donald Trump doesn't have a plan B that is like, OK, lower, lower, you know, costs reach to the center.

00:05:17.400 He doesn't have that. He's got only one plan. And that is, as I said, it is to make it harder

00:05:21.960 for people to vote and easier for him to cheat. And what happens is because it's really hard for

00:05:27.780 him to pull that off because the courts have not gone along with it in the past. When that fails,

00:05:32.220 Simone, what you are left with is him escalating the rhetoric. And then we've seen what happens.

00:05:39.140 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going to

00:05:49.420 medieval on these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people

00:05:55.980 the people have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do

00:06:00.160 everything in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and

00:06:03.500 Where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:06:06.780 MAGA Media.

00:06:08.140 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:06:13.540 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:06:17.340 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:06:23.520 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.

00:06:26.920 it is a thursday 9 july the year of our lord 2026 eric metaxas not going to have him on today

00:06:36.940 remember the days the day that uh general washington read the uh read the uh declaration

00:06:44.860 to the troops gather them down at bowling green in the battery um watching the um elements of

00:06:51.580 the British Expeditionary Force come with 32,000 combat troops

00:06:54.920 and between 300 and 400 combatants and the entire rural Navy.

00:07:01.840 He read it to them getting ready for the fight

00:07:03.460 that was going to commence in a couple of weeks, 250 years ago.

00:07:06.760 We're going to cover all that.

00:07:08.200 We have a truncated version today, just an hour of the war,

00:07:11.060 and we're going to go live to the evidentiary hearing

00:07:16.080 or essentially a grand jury that you're sitting in as the grand jury members.

00:07:21.580 of the assassination of the great Charlie Kirk.

00:07:27.040 And so we'll turn that over today, and then we're going to be back.

00:07:31.240 At 5, it looks like we're during the time that we get at least a 10 or 15-minute break,

00:07:36.320 and Wendy Patrick will come up and give a summary of what's going on.

00:07:40.480 But for those in the audience have been pretty vast watching this,

00:07:43.720 which we think is quite, quite, quite important,

00:07:46.180 because every day we toss to Charlie Kirk at the noon hour for the Charlie Kirk show.

00:07:50.860 We still toss to the Charlie Kirk show, but we used to do it with the Charlie Kirk before he was assassinated out in Utah.

00:08:00.680 We've got some of the war you just saw right there.

00:08:03.640 They're starting to squirm before the release of information, declassified information regarding foreign involvement and the stealing of the 20 interference and stealing of the 2020 election.

00:08:15.500 And then whatever happens afterwards, I hope either we expedite the Save America Act, if you can't expedite it, my recommendation is you've got a national security emergency and you should go.

00:08:29.840 The president of the United States commander in chief has a obligation and a duty to protect the vote in November so it can't be stolen by these open border nullification project.

00:08:42.920 mandami newsome bass uh the mayor of chicago um jacob fry and waltz in minnesota you go on and on 0.99

00:08:53.240 the new the new um the new mecca for transgenderism which is seattle because they're all flooding in

00:08:59.240 there you go to these cities they they are more about nullification than john c calhoun 1.00

00:09:06.320 and we know where that led this is leading to the same folks the same place folks as sure as the

00:09:13.300 turning of the earth they see msnbc now they're squirming and yammer and squirm and yammer all

00:09:20.680 you want get mark elias up there every day get weissman up there every day every show do it

00:09:27.580 bring it bring your best because we're not stopping we're not prepared to have any more

00:09:32.700 elections stolen this country we're not prepared to have the invasion of this country uh in the 0.90

00:09:38.780 with uh every foreigner in the world coming here and living off the american people should be no 0.77

00:09:45.320 more it should be a 10-year hiatus minimum on all quote-unquote legal or what i say the the con and

00:09:52.680 the scam immigration and then mass deportations saw mike how you're seeing the great photos mike

00:09:58.300 rolling around the Capitol, you know, making people's heads blow up with the panel truck

00:10:05.000 that had about mass deportations, had warroom.org on the side of it.

00:10:10.980 The Mass Deportation Coalition is one of the, it's the fastest thing I've seen grown here

00:10:15.780 since the Tea Party.

00:10:17.520 People are signing up.

00:10:18.440 You should go over to their website right now because this is a fight.

00:10:21.480 We've got to get back to basics.

00:10:23.840 The president's been shown false data, bad information.

00:10:27.440 Yesterday, I was honored to join Tony Lyons in this Make America Healthy Again call that takes place every Wednesday.

00:10:35.220 I want to make sure we're going to start putting it up on our own sites on Getter and Rumble and all these other platforms,

00:10:42.240 which comes to, I don't know, 15 million people, 15 million eyes.

00:10:46.480 We're going to start putting it up because it's a fascinating, and we'll start getting folks on The War Room.

00:10:50.080 It's a fascinating conversation every week.

00:10:51.920 And I just joined to say, hey, look, they came out to kind of handcuff Bobby Kennedy and handcuff Make America Healthy Again, which is a coalition partner.

00:11:01.560 The power of Make America Healthy Again is that it's a grassroots movement.

00:11:05.540 That's why there was such a nice, easy fit from the very beginning.

00:11:11.000 The concerned mothers about the education policies, what they saw their kids doing, the pandemic, what they saw about the vaccines.

00:11:18.240 what they saw about everything dealing with Fauci

00:11:21.920 the Children's Health Alliance

00:11:24.660 Children's Health Defense, excuse me

00:11:26.380 Mary Holland and the team

00:11:28.300 we had them on, you know, Naomi

00:11:31.080 all these people, it was a natural fit, wasn't it?

00:11:33.560 Why? Because they're grassroots powered

00:11:35.160 that's why they're a perfect fit with Make America Great Again

00:11:37.900 which is more in the economic nationalism

00:11:41.180 and obviously the invasion of the country

00:11:43.100 and all these issues, but they blend together

00:11:45.920 and we have to have their back

00:11:47.200 and some of the political people around President Trump

00:11:49.420 are showing him false data.

00:11:50.600 How do I know that?

00:11:51.640 We had Jeffrey Tucker did the dominant poll to say

00:11:55.100 by two-thirds majority, the American people support

00:11:58.400 what President Trump and Bobby Kennedy are doing

00:12:00.860 to make America healthy again.

00:12:02.800 That's why in this run-up to this election,

00:12:05.400 because here's the theory of the case on the election.

00:12:08.020 Because of redistricting and the fight that we led

00:12:11.920 with Alex DeGrasse and others, the grassroots in Texas,

00:12:14.720 not the political staff of the White House,

00:12:16.580 That's a BS.

00:12:18.220 We were here in 22 and did the pick and show work.

00:12:20.840 I don't want to hear the political geniuses over there.

00:12:23.320 All they do is piss away money.

00:12:27.360 They've got the president so wrapped around the axle on his policies with giving false data that it's an open secret in town.

00:12:36.140 The small dollar donors have dried up to nothing, to zero.

00:12:41.140 Why?

00:12:41.800 And we know there can be enthusiasm.

00:12:44.320 Look at Texas.

00:12:45.160 Look at Virginia.

00:12:45.820 If you show people there's a program and here's the program, here's what we're going to do and we're going to hit our marks, the MAGA movement will come out, they'll come out in droves.

00:12:53.340 Just ask John Cornyn about that.

00:12:56.600 Look at the redistricting in Virginia.

00:13:00.000 You know, Ryer, the chairman of the GOP, DeLois Stallman and all these great grassroots leaders in the Commonwealth of Virginia that rally people with no money, with no money.

00:13:09.860 I mean, Spicer's sitting there going, it's amazing what can happen when the grassroots is involved.

00:13:14.160 but we got to get our mind right we're in for a fight and we're in for the fight really the

00:13:19.420 political fight of the maga movement in a off in a midterm election when obviously the propensity

00:13:26.720 to vote is much lower you saw what's happening and listen what happened to the tea party plattner's

00:13:32.580 no he's not a good guy he's actually a very bad guy but his economic message and look he's a

00:13:41.320 socialist but the democratic party is controlled more by donors than even the republican party

00:13:46.780 they're controlled by oligarchs oligarch that want to destroy the culture of this 0.95

00:13:52.800 american republic that's the dark money in back of mandani

00:13:56.060 that's what came in and tried to uh and tried to uh they said platner is too radical economically

00:14:03.020 so they got him out of the way i think they've put maine back in our back in our column

00:14:11.600 Without Maine, and I've said, hey, we're going to lose the Senate because of Thune,

00:14:14.300 and we need a throwdown with Thune.

00:14:15.600 We don't need to be hiring Johnny to stop, and I'll be rubbing up on Thune. 1.00

00:14:19.280 Thune's a loser. 0.97

00:14:21.700 He's done nothing but lose ever since he's been in the Senate. 1.00

00:14:23.840 He got tax cuts passed for his donors, and that's it.

00:14:28.920 Time to get serious.

00:14:30.960 Divine Providence may have worked in our favor.

00:14:32.760 They went and promoted a bad guy, finally got outed.

00:14:37.240 And I think Maine is now, you know, it's Collins' to lose.

00:14:40.520 It's just a massive shift.

00:14:43.480 And without Maine, they've got a very, very tough.

00:14:47.640 Maine and North Carolina put them in a strategic advantage.

00:14:51.140 Very tough.

00:14:51.780 In the house, can we hold serve?

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00:18:02.280 it's not it's not it's not perfect right got some little boomer in there but it's a threat

00:18:10.600 it's a threat to this nation right now we gotta get very serious about this war in the middle east 0.78

00:18:14.720 I mean, here's how serious. 0.71

00:18:16.740 Wrap it up.

00:18:18.460 Economic warfare.

00:18:19.420 Scott Besson, don't give him any more license to sell oil.

00:18:22.140 Never again.

00:18:22.900 Don't do it.

00:18:24.520 That was a mistake.

00:18:25.940 I know it wasn't your mistake, but it was a mistake.

00:18:28.040 Don't do it.

00:18:28.780 No oil.

00:18:29.340 No oil to the Chinese Communist Party.

00:18:30.920 No cash money to the Persians.

00:18:33.640 No $6 billion to buy our foodstuffs. 0.99

00:18:35.900 The farmers out in Iowa and Nebraska will find somebody else to sell it to.

00:18:40.060 No cash.

00:18:41.040 Let them go hungry.

00:18:42.260 They won't be dancing in the streets like they were last Saturday, 5 million of them.

00:18:45.780 Does that lack empathy?

00:18:46.900 Yes, it does, because I don't have empathy.

00:18:49.780 Right now, we're in a war.

00:18:51.060 We're in a shooting war.

00:18:51.900 We have young Americans in harm's way in the Middle East. 1.00

00:18:55.560 It's time to wrap that crap up and bring it home. 1.00

00:18:58.680 It's a sideshow, and the Israel project is a sideshow to a sideshow. 0.98

00:19:03.560 Israel, we can't merge the defense budgets.

00:19:05.640 We can't merge the defense industrial base.

00:19:08.420 We can't do any of it.

00:19:09.240 Israel is a sovereign country.

00:19:10.600 If they don't want to be a vassal state, and I know they hate when I say that, but hey, if you don't want to be a vassal state and a protectorate and you want to go and you want to march to Beirut, you want to march to Damascus, which President Trump just took off the terrorist list, you want to march to Tehran, march, go, go for it.

00:19:28.760 You're a sovereign nation, tough people, IDF, you got tough hombres over there, march, get General Keene, give him a field promotion, get Mark Levin, get that big mouth in a front tank.

00:19:39.260 He talks a big game.

00:19:40.900 Why aren't he over there fighting?

00:19:42.980 Has his family ever fought?

00:19:44.240 Don't think so. 1.00

00:19:45.820 Don't think so, homie. 1.00

00:19:47.080 Don't think so. 1.00

00:19:48.840 Get in a front tank and go for it.

00:19:51.540 Now's the time.

00:19:52.440 We're coming home.

00:19:54.440 We are coming home.

00:19:56.860 And right now, politically, if you don't get that message, once again, you're reading bad data.

00:20:01.780 And just think of who lied to you.

00:20:04.560 Who lied to the commander-in-chief?

00:20:06.200 Lied.

00:20:06.880 Who lied to the commander-in-chief?

00:20:08.740 who gave him misrepresentation and bad information.

00:20:11.600 They didn't fall in five days with strategic bombing.

00:20:15.120 And General Cain and Admiral Cooper,

00:20:17.780 the American military delivered hammer blow.

00:20:21.660 The denuclearization, you went for total obliteration

00:20:25.100 in June of last year, and everybody thinks you did it.

00:20:31.860 Don't know why you had to go back, but hey,

00:20:33.980 even in going back those first couple of days,

00:20:35.880 like you said, it's buried under a mountain of rubble.

00:20:38.740 enough said. You've done your duty. You've denuclearized. If they ever started getting

00:20:45.460 fancy, send them back over and bomb again. Nobody cares. But bring everybody home. 0.99

00:20:52.480 In war, constancy is important. Jim Rickards, we got a massive election. And if we lose this, 0.99

00:21:01.360 folks, trust me, the Trump revolution is going to come to a grinding halt because Jamie Raskin

00:21:07.420 already prepared to send i don't know five million subpoenas like day one the white house is going to

00:21:15.180 be fort apache it doesn't have to be like that we can hold serve in the house and we think i think

00:21:20.440 now with the platner chaos i think we can hold the senate it's going to be tough and you got to

00:21:27.020 get enthusiasm and the grassroots only the grassroots not the corporate donors not the rnc fat

00:21:33.060 cats they run for the hills not where where's all your tech bros where's the tech bros now that

00:21:39.580 you're talking about read axes i put the story now that you're talking about president trump is

00:21:43.400 very involved in putting in some sort of rudimentary uh regulatory apparatus because

00:21:48.180 as president trump said i think we need some safeguards for this you know why because he's

00:21:51.820 seen these guys looked them in the eyes he knows these oligarchs are dangerous

00:21:54.880 on the spectrum dangerous you don't see them running in the oval office anymore

00:22:01.480 You don't see it because they're all left wing progressives.

00:22:05.660 All of them.

00:22:08.140 Jim Rickards, I've asked you to come on today and change it up.

00:22:10.660 We're going to have you.

00:22:11.260 And I really appreciate you coming on, Jim, for one reason.

00:22:14.860 You've had a series of called shots.

00:22:17.280 I want to get you and Sam Fadis, these gray beards on here.

00:22:21.020 You guys are just giving the best information.

00:22:22.880 Give us your assessment, sir, particularly the complexity of what you're so good at strategic intelligence of that intersection.

00:22:30.500 of geopolitics, national security, military strategy, and good old politics here in the

00:22:37.280 United States of America, sir. Thank you, Steve. Yeah, let me spend a couple minutes on Iran and

00:22:42.260 then we'll pivot to domestic electoral politics in the midterm. So I was checking the news this

00:22:47.940 morning in the Telegraph, which is a great UK paper. I like them because they published my

00:22:52.400 op-eds, but they had a big headline story. It said, Trump has three choices, surrender,

00:22:58.320 stalemate, or escalate.

00:23:00.280 And I thought, where have I heard that before?

00:23:02.060 We've been saying that on your show for three months, basically.

00:23:05.660 Those are the paths.

00:23:07.540 Now, that's a good framework for analysis, but it begs the question, okay, which one

00:23:11.580 of those are you actually going to do?

00:23:13.420 And they all have problems.

00:23:14.500 Now, surrender, withdraw, retreat, some kind of paper it over, whatever it takes.

00:23:21.320 Get home, exactly what you were just saying, is the best path.

00:23:24.320 and then just get working full-time on the elections.

00:23:28.880 Stalemate won't work.

00:23:30.100 It worked for a short period of time,

00:23:31.620 but the world would run out of energy.

00:23:33.660 If you don't reopen the Strait of Homoose

00:23:34.980 one way or the other, with tolls or without tolls,

00:23:37.280 you're going to start shutting down

00:23:38.540 a big part of the industrial economy.

00:23:41.060 So that's a temporary fix, but not sustainable.

00:23:43.980 And the third one is escalate.

00:23:46.120 It won't work, but it has its attractions.

00:23:49.060 My view, I'm not in favor of this,

00:23:50.560 but just as an analyst, I would say,

00:23:52.260 if you want to escalate,

00:23:53.180 Forget about blowing up bridges and radar stations and all that. 0.54

00:23:57.280 Go get the highly enriched uranium.

00:23:59.260 I mean, it would take division strength, meaning 10,000 troops, security perimeter, special

00:24:04.600 operations, all the intelligence you can get.

00:24:07.320 It would take a lot, and there would be casualties.

00:24:09.400 And by the way, easy for me to say.

00:24:11.040 I'm not jumping out of a helicopter, but that's one way to kind of end this once and for all.

00:24:15.800 But I do think the retreat or escalation, or sorry, the surrender path is the best one.

00:24:21.780 But here's the problem.

00:24:23.180 Iran won't let Trump do it.

00:24:25.600 You know, Trump actually was going down that road.

00:24:27.680 But then all it takes is Iran, you know, firing missiles at a couple of oil tankers.

00:24:31.840 Now, can they physically close the strait?

00:24:34.780 Can they interdict every vessel?

00:24:36.160 Do they have that kind of...

00:24:37.020 No, they don't.

00:24:37.960 But they don't have to.

00:24:39.100 All they have to do is, you know, once a week or twice a month, you know, blow up a couple

00:24:42.780 tankers.

00:24:43.260 And that's enough.

00:24:43.880 If you own the vessel, you're not sending it through, no matter what CENCOM says.

00:24:47.740 So there's kind of no good way out here.

00:24:50.640 Um, the, the, the best way out is to, uh, uh, basically, you know, as you say, get

00:24:56.360 out.

00:24:56.640 I agree with that.

00:24:57.840 Uh, and then, um, uh, you know, go, but you, but you, but you, but you, with economic

00:25:03.560 warfare, look, we had them on their knees in January.

00:25:05.980 This is why hundreds of thousands, if not millions took to the streets.

00:25:09.740 Now 40,000 got killed supposedly.

00:25:11.920 Right.

00:25:12.380 But that's the way to bring them to the knees.

00:25:14.440 You, the surrender, the option of getting out doesn't mean surrender.

00:25:17.940 It means take care of the objectives you've got.

00:25:20.040 Now, I will tell you, if we go down the route of which they put a division in, not only have we ended the Trump movement for eternity, we've ended the Republican Party for eternity.

00:25:31.400 The American people are not going to tolerate that.

00:25:33.020 I think there would be an overwhelming 90 percent of people go, whoa, no way, baby.

00:25:37.620 We were in Iraq and Afghanistan for 20 years, $9 trillion, $10,000 dead.

00:25:42.140 That's just the military, not even the contractors, right?

00:25:45.640 $50,000.

00:25:46.560 You go on any street in America, you get homeless.

00:25:48.500 So you've got to thread the needle here, but that's where you need constancy and kind of message.

00:25:53.500 But look, to me, Jim, help me out here. 0.99

00:25:56.000 The mullahs aren't going to listen until you hit them upside the head with something more than a bomb because they don't care how many people die. 0.99

00:26:01.840 They don't even care how many mullahs die. 0.99

00:26:03.820 They get tens of thousands of mullahs.

00:26:06.460 These are Persians. 1.00

00:26:07.380 They've been doing this against the Greeks and the Romans forever. 1.00

00:26:10.620 In fact, we're going to have the head of the Hellenic Council on next to talk about Turkey and the whole region as the Greeks see it, because they've been fighting this for 3,500 years.

00:26:21.560 So your plan of, I don't call it surrender, but a let's get the hell out smartly, having accomplished our objective, sir, your thoughts.

00:26:30.440 Right.

00:26:31.520 Steve, you said we had them on their knees three months ago.

00:26:34.340 We had them on their knees in 2012.

00:26:36.380 I mean, the guy who was actually good at this was Obama.

00:26:38.360 Now, Obama threw in the towel too early and signed a lousy deal.

00:26:42.160 But his conduct of financial warfare, and that's what I did at the CIA for 10 years.

00:26:46.780 Financial warfare was my specialty, and I spent a lot of time with the Treasury and the Fed and the other branches of government.

00:26:52.660 Scott Besson is just the guy to do this.

00:26:54.860 But go behind the curtain into the international payment system, the dollar system, which still rules.

00:26:59.860 Forget this devaluation trade and all that stuff.

00:27:03.060 The dollar is still king of the hill.

00:27:05.500 And strangle them financially.

00:27:06.780 You're right. 0.86

00:27:07.080 No Iranian oil on the market.

00:27:09.120 But Jim, as soon as Scott started doing that and we got traction,

00:27:13.540 next thing you know, we signed an MOU. 0.99

00:27:16.340 The MOU was retarded, okay, on every level. 0.99

00:27:21.140 To give them any access to their cash, they ain't got any cash. 1.00

00:27:24.160 We're sweeping that cash.

00:27:25.760 Now the reconciliation bill is $350 billion, okay?

00:27:30.620 $88 to $100 billion is what it's cost us.

00:27:33.240 first off all 50 bayon they've got that we can get our hands on our money they they cause this

00:27:40.000 thing that's our money we shouldn't give them a penny i don't care if they go hungry they go 0.82

00:27:44.440 hungry they're gonna get surly if they get hangry maybe they'll be overthrowing some moolahs which 0.97

00:27:49.440 is what we need we don't need them dancing in the street singing death to america at some funeral 1.00

00:27:54.140 we need them out there saying hey my belly's not full moolah i need where am i getting where am i

00:27:59.100 going to eat shut the whole thing down economically with the most with the most powerful economic

00:28:04.600 force and we control the swift system right we control the dollar just do it don't not one drop 1.00

00:28:11.700 of oil to the ccp what are we doing here we're letting the ccp get her choke down the ccp at the 0.99

00:28:16.740 same time when she comes over here in september let him be a supplicant let him be a supplicant 0.98

00:28:22.580 hey pretty please gotta get some more anyway records hang on for one second right i took your 0.98

00:28:27.500 mic and start a rant. You triggered me, man. You got me rolling here. Jim Rickards, strategic

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00:28:45.460 prices, but there's another grim reality to this contention. Oil isn't the only resource being

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00:30:07.880 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.

00:30:11.300 Rickards, the floor is yours.

00:30:14.760 I took your mic yelling and screaming like a madman

00:30:17.080 because my next guest is actually the executive director

00:30:20.680 of the Hellenic American Leadership Council.

00:30:22.860 I've got so much.

00:30:23.540 It gets me so worked up.

00:30:25.580 Our forefathers in Greece and in Rome

00:30:28.400 have been dealing in this neighborhood for 3,000 years.

00:30:32.240 Let's take some lessons from them, okay?

00:30:34.700 Because nothing's changed.

00:30:36.120 Nothing has changed.

00:30:37.980 Nothing.

00:30:38.700 Jim Rickards, your thoughts, sir?

00:30:40.920 Well, first of all, Steve, you're exactly right about financial warfare.

00:30:43.760 It's far more powerful than people realize.

00:30:45.520 You have to know how to do it.

00:30:46.660 There's a lot to it, but that can definitely be done.

00:30:49.960 That's what we should do.

00:30:51.240 So let's get to that.

00:30:52.600 But I just want to pivot for a second from Iran, everything we just discussed, to the

00:30:56.240 midterm elections.

00:30:56.980 And believe it or not, they're very strongly linked.

00:30:59.120 So here's the most important data in terms of the midterm elections.

00:31:02.960 One year ago, gasoline prices, this is national average, regular, so not diesel, high test

00:31:08.060 or anything else. It was $3.16 a gallon. Today, it's $3.84 a gallon. And two months ago, at the

00:31:16.400 height of the war and the shortages and all that, it was $4.50 a gallon. Now, the Democrats will say,

00:31:22.900 hey, prices are 22% higher than they were a year ago. And that's true. That's how the American

00:31:29.280 people think about it. American people don't walk around with long-term price charts in their heads.

00:31:33.300 They ask themselves one question, is it going up or is it going down? Well, in the last month,

00:31:37.880 It's come down 15%.

00:31:39.860 It's gone from 450 to 384.

00:31:42.480 And the American people say, okay, it's still a little high, got it.

00:31:44.800 But it's coming down.

00:31:45.680 They'll give you credit for that.

00:31:46.780 They'll say, all right, keep it going. 0.99

00:31:48.860 And as an analyst, if I know it, the Iranians know it. 0.96

00:31:52.300 Part of what they're doing, they're trying to get the price of gas at the pump. 0.99

00:31:55.020 Believe it or not, talking about election interference,

00:31:57.160 they're trying to get the price of gas at the pump up again

00:32:00.960 because they know that'll beat the Republicans in the midterms.

00:32:04.200 Then you'll have Jamie Raskin, you'll have impeachment,

00:32:06.280 You'll have wealth confiscation, all the rest.

00:32:09.560 I think the viewers are very familiar with the DSA communist program, et cetera.

00:32:14.440 By the way, you're going to have 12 outright communists plus the squad in Congress come

00:32:19.380 January.

00:32:19.880 That's almost a foregone conclusion.

00:32:22.180 So the key is you've got to get the price of gas.

00:32:24.840 Keep it coming down.

00:32:25.760 It doesn't have to get to a year ago.

00:32:26.960 It just has to come down.

00:32:28.220 American people will give you credit for that.

00:32:29.960 Just do whatever it takes.

00:32:31.100 And that's the best advice I can give the Republicans.

00:32:33.680 I want to have you back on.

00:32:36.900 I'll talk to you today, but I want to have you back on next week.

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00:34:04.560 Andy Zemadidis, is that how you pronounce the last name?

00:34:09.500 Close enough, Zemadidis, Zemadidis.

00:34:12.860 Okay, it sounds like you're Greek.

00:34:15.780 You're Executive Director of the Hellenic American Leadership Council.

00:34:21.700 So I want you on here for a couple of things, and we're going to hold you through the break already.

00:34:25.520 I can tell that. 0.98

00:34:26.420 Number one, the Greeks have been doing this with the Persians for a long time, correct?

00:34:31.860 That's right, and they've got a great record.

00:34:34.800 President Trump should have tapped in and should have tagged in the Greeks.

00:34:37.460 If it wasn't for you guys standing tall against overwhelming odds for some bad hombres, and these people are tough, we wouldn't have democracy as we know it today, correct? 0.76

00:34:49.300 Yes.

00:34:49.700 I mean, clearly there's a lot of literature and studies about this, and we can go back to the original source.

00:34:57.680 But if it wasn't for the Battle of Salamis and then the Spartans at 300 buying time for the rest of the Greeks to regroup, there would have been no West as we know it.

00:35:11.160 Go tell the Spartans, as we say, right?

00:35:13.660 So what's the lesson? Give me give me the lesson that that that the White House, President Trump, National Security Council, our audience, what should be if the Greeks were to give us, you know, if we go back in time and they were to give us a both a warning and guidance, what would it be, sir? 0.62

00:35:29.060 Yeah, I would go to look to a singular figure that a lot of people don't talk about. They talk about Leonidas and they talk about Alexander the Great when it comes to the Persians, but I would look to Themistocles.

00:35:43.300 Themistocles knew when the Athenians had won the Battle of Marathon that the Persians were going to come back with greater force. 0.72

00:35:52.060 And he put the city on course to build the triremes, to build these ships.

00:35:59.340 And those ships saved Western civilization. 0.89

00:36:04.040 And that's the lesson, that lesson in strategy and forethought, because it's really disheartening that we're getting checked in the Strait of Hormuz.

00:36:18.080 America is the greatest naval power of all time.

00:36:21.220 And we didn't think of how somebody with some cheap technology and drones, and we also have to be thinking of their pirates. 1.00

00:36:31.920 And what's horrible, what's horrible, horrible about this is what are the lessons that the Chinese are learning? 0.98

00:36:38.620 If the Iranians can do to this and the Straits of Hormuz, what can the Chinese who have significantly better technology, anti-access and area denial weaponry, do to us in the South China Sea? 0.96

00:36:54.260 So we have to think strategically. 0.96

00:36:56.520 We shouldn't be thinking of, you know, we can just throw some force because we're not going to put troops.

00:37:02.680 We're not going to put boots on the ground.

00:37:04.280 There's no reasoning for putting boots on the ground. 0.99

00:37:07.560 And so we should be looking to Themistocles. 0.77

00:37:10.460 By the way, absolutely brilliant.

00:37:12.980 Matt Boyle told me you were brilliant.

00:37:15.300 But man, Matt Boyle nailed it.

00:37:16.980 That is one of the most intelligent things that have been said in the war in a long time.

00:37:20.660 And we're going to get some information up so the war and posse can immerse themselves in it. 0.99

00:37:26.700 But thinking strategically, it's a little bit changed because Islam kind of came to, you know, 0.84

00:37:31.980 and conquered the great civilizations of Egypt and Babylon and Persia and the Turks. 0.99

00:37:39.900 So now we face the same cats, right, the same dudes, and it's the same exact thing,

00:37:45.620 except now they've got a kind of a fanatical religion that drives them. 0.50

00:37:50.800 And you've got Erdogan, and I realize President Trump's close to Erdogan.

00:37:53.680 He respects Erdogan.

00:37:55.160 And Erdogan, look, he's a powerful guy.

00:37:57.500 But you saw in that, when President Trump arrived,

00:38:00.380 And we didn't have time because of Charlie's trial to show it.

00:38:02.840 I will show it Saturday over the weekend.

00:38:04.940 It was, and who's preached this gospel?

00:38:07.520 They did this film about, you know, going around following me.

00:38:10.760 And I kept saying, Erdogan is going to turn the Turks back to the Ottoman Empire.

00:38:17.220 He wants to caliphate.

00:38:18.820 He wants to control the two holy cities of Mecca and Medina, just like they did before Lawrence and Arabia in World War I. 0.96

00:38:24.860 That's his mission.

00:38:25.600 President Trump shows up.

00:38:26.920 It's like the Ottoman Empire, right?

00:38:29.380 It's like Ataturk never arrived.

00:38:31.360 Erdogan, this is his mission in life before he goes.

00:38:35.920 You've been one of the most stalwart nations in having our back, right?

00:38:41.040 And you bring all these ancient lessons. 0.99

00:38:43.780 The dangerous neighborhood of the eastern Mediterranean, particularly with the Turks, 0.76

00:38:48.620 the revolving in NATO, but particularly now, we're taking sanctions off, and I'm a sanctions guy.

00:38:54.400 We're taking sanctions off and discussing selling the F-35.

00:38:57.540 Your thoughts, what do the Greeks think about that, sir?

00:39:01.860 Well, so I'm, you know, I think it's what you said.

00:39:07.860 The closer Athens and Washington have been over, they've been on the same side of every conflict.

00:39:14.800 As we celebrate our 250th birthday here in the United States, we got to, our founding fathers looked to the ancient Greeks for inspiration for our democracy. 0.58

00:39:26.620 So and Greece has always hit its NATO targets. Greece is given the U.S. major basing rights that the U.S. capabilities both in Ukraine and in the Middle East would have been different if it weren't for the basing rights they have in Greece.

00:39:45.420 What you described, absolutely correct on Erdogan, and even worse, because it's not only he wants to bring back in his eyes what was the glory of the Ottoman Empire, he marries it with 20th century political Islam.

00:40:02.360 Erdogan is the leader, presently, of the Muslim Brotherhood in the Middle East, and we're seeing it in Syria. 0.70

00:40:11.080 We're seeing it with his sponsorship of Hamas.

00:40:14.800 We're seeing it with what he's doing elsewhere in the region.

00:40:18.600 In Libya, his previous tension with Egypt was about the Muslim Brotherhood. 0.70

00:40:26.500 But he thinks the Ottoman Empire was great. 0.96

00:40:31.320 Here, let's quote this. 0.60

00:40:32.960 After the U.S. recognized the Armenian Genocide, after Israel recognized the Armenian Genocide,

00:40:38.380 here's an Erdogan quote.

00:40:40.200 Turkey's history is free from genocide, massacres, oppression, and colonialism.

00:40:46.560 That's just objectively not true.

00:40:49.580 It was a colonial power.

00:40:51.540 There was a 30-year genocide.

00:40:53.380 There wasn't just one day in Armenian genocide.

00:40:55.940 There was a 30-year genocide that killed over a million Armenians, Christians, Assyrians.

00:41:02.940 If somebody wants to go look at it, they can go find what the population, what the Christian population of Turkey was at the turn of the century, at the end of the Ottoman Empire, and what it is today. 0.91

00:41:16.600 And that's continuing. 0.83

00:41:18.680 That's continuing.

00:41:19.440 You have the spiritual head of the Orthodox Church, a worldwide Orthodox Church, the Ecumenical Patriarch in Constantinople.

00:41:28.320 He's denied religious freedom.

00:41:31.280 he has no legal status erdogan calls him the bishop of constantinople he has to get

00:41:39.880 his travel checked by the turkish government the theological seminary remains closed for

00:41:45.280 50 years they're slowly wiping out the ecumenical patriarchy he's occupying the northern third of

00:41:53.240 cyprus where it was that was the site of the first christian mission saint paul and barnabas

00:41:59.740 landed on cyprus lazarus is buried in cyprus and they're slowly wiping out uh christianity

00:42:09.380 and its historic homelands we should not play long and you know unfortunately we have an ambassador

00:42:15.600 a u.s ambassador tom barrack there who speaks glowingly of the ottoman past uh and that's that's

00:42:24.520 really working against both our values and barracks barracks one of my best friends he's a 0.97

00:42:29.700 good man but he's a phoenician he's down there there this thing that's why by the way that's

00:42:35.280 why we got to unite and i love tom barrack's a great man but and this is you see bb bb's out

00:42:40.880 looking for another war we we need to get our partners in that region and we need to think

00:42:46.080 this through our folks when the when the when the balloon goes up in the eastern med in the balkans

00:42:51.200 and turkey and greece in these islands you ain't putting that flame out we're trying to extract

00:42:56.440 ourselves from the middle east if this thing goes up you're not putting this one out for a 50 years

00:43:01.720 right and this is what i'm saying it's a tinder box over there right now hang over a second andy

00:43:05.600 i'm gonna hold you through the break um i want to have you on we're going to drill down more on

00:43:10.000 geo strategy um when i have you back on but in the next segment we talk about the um the classical

00:43:20.320 West, one of the greatest of all of our foundational myths, the war at Troy, the Trojan War, and

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00:43:36.280 on a journey and founded Rome. Ulysses would not be denied going home. We have a totally

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00:45:46.900 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.

00:45:52.940 This is one of the more recent translations, really pretty excellent, by Emily Wilson, a classicist.

00:46:00.560 I think she's at the University of Pennsylvania.

00:46:02.200 yes University of Pennsylvania classics professor of a adventure story like no other

00:46:09.400 Andy how important how important is is Homer in the Iliad in the Odyssey is the foundational myth

00:46:17.020 of the of the the origin story of the West sir I listen I have a problem that we've gotten away

00:46:24.900 from the classics we used to have these great book series and you know we're lucky if we can

00:46:31.120 get comic book versions you hold up an excellent translation emily wilson yeah uh she did the

00:46:37.240 translation of of the odyssey she she also did a couple years ago a translation of the iliad

00:46:44.000 uh and yeah you know i i know it's easier to make everything an hbo show or a you know a movie

00:46:55.100 but man the fact that we people are not reading these uh these books anymore and there's and

00:47:03.560 there's even great novel versions of this madeline miller did the the novel version of cersei um

00:47:11.800 you know we can go back to the old mary renault books steven pressfeld since you're talking about

00:47:18.160 the the persians everybody everybody every one of your listeners your your everybody in your

00:47:24.700 audience should go by the gates of fire. I read that Steven Pressfield is one. And in fact, I 1.00

00:47:31.360 think when Admiral Stavridis did the book, Leaders Bookshelf, the top military officers and the top

00:47:38.560 junior officers all recommended that people who want to be leaders read the gates of fire. So

00:47:44.440 there's ways to immerse oneself in the classics by picking up a book. And we've become an America

00:47:53.200 that, you know, more than 50% of incoming college freshmen

00:47:56.200 haven't read a book cover to cover.

00:47:58.440 We need people to start picking up books again.

00:48:00.800 Have never read a book cover to cover in their life.

00:48:04.220 In their life.

00:48:05.260 Now, here's the amazing thing about this.

00:48:09.760 When you read the Iliad or the Odyssey

00:48:11.880 and the stanzas and the beauty and how it fits together

00:48:16.060 and the battle scenes and humanity, right?

00:48:19.500 um you um you have to remember this was all from memory this is oral tradition is it not

00:48:27.180 homer however homer was it's all folks remember their memories they trained them like computers

00:48:33.200 this is all from memory we write it down but the original stories were all oral correct

00:48:38.780 yeah yeah homer is a great storyteller and the ancient greeks were great storytellers uh there

00:48:46.000 was Homer who did these epic poems. There was something that's really, since we were talking

00:48:52.440 about geostrategy, Thucydides, Herodotus. And, you know, there's timeless lessons in there. And

00:49:02.120 we can, you know, we can, Aeneas, as you said, Virgil, Seneca. There's some timeless, there's

00:49:11.140 Some timeless Plutarch.

00:49:12.560 The reason I say that, you know, Lincoln had a version of the King James Version of the Bible, the Old and New Testament.

00:49:21.360 He had the plays and sonnets of Shakespeare, and he had Plutarch's lives of the noble Greeks and Romans.

00:49:29.840 And the way it's originally written, which is so powerful, anybody today, any kid today, pick up these moral lessons because what he did, he did the Greek, and he did the counterpart to the Roman.

00:49:39.480 about how the societies were different and you read it and you understand you really start to

00:49:45.100 understand the west you start to understand the underpinnings of the west and this is why

00:49:49.120 greece has so much to teach us now in the lessons of greece and the lessons of rome hey you know

00:49:55.260 who believed that 250 years ago the founders of this nation they've really been they studied

00:50:01.140 they studied greece and they studied the roman republic in excruciating detail for the lessons

00:50:07.360 And that would come even further on the foundation of the country.

00:50:10.360 Go ahead, sir.

00:50:11.140 Yeah.

00:50:11.640 There's a book people can go.

00:50:13.540 There's another book people can read about.

00:50:15.080 Thomas Ricks wrote a great book called First Principles.

00:50:18.740 And you see how they were exactly looking to that ancient wisdom, not hero worship, but ancient wisdom, saying these are the principles we were founded on.

00:50:30.620 These are also the mistakes they made.

00:50:33.240 They tried to avoid mistakes.

00:50:35.220 our founders were good enough to say yeah maybe that direct democracy that the ancient athenians

00:50:41.640 did was way unchecked let's make it a republic so if we don't know the mistakes people made not

00:50:48.020 only the successes the mistakes people made in the past there's that famous quote those who do

00:50:53.240 not know their history are condemned to repeat it that that's why and andy uh if i can hold you

00:50:58.600 through the court has not started yet we don't have the slate so maybe a few minutes at the

00:51:02.440 beginning we were able to do this at the very beginning of the war i think it was we were doing

00:51:07.200 the saturday and sunday show for i think the first four weeks on one of the saturdays i think it's

00:51:12.380 aaron's uh history of uh of alexander the great and i focused on alexander the generals having

00:51:19.220 that war council when they got into india and they saw the elephants they said hey boss

00:51:23.620 you know i kind of think we've come far enough maybe maybe you know north africa egypt we kind

00:51:30.480 of like that maybe we should reverse course and get back to something that's a little more you

00:51:34.160 know we don't have these war elephants coming at us and so when they went back guess where they

00:51:38.360 went they went right along the uh the north arabian sea right along the gulf of oman right

00:51:45.220 past hormuz exactly yard for yard where we're bombing today right and guess what it was you

00:51:53.980 read that and i told the audience you read it it's a hellhole i mean it's so tough and so brutal and

00:52:00.160 And this was Alexander the Great's unbeatable army.

00:52:04.360 And by the time he got past Karg Island and got to Babylon,

00:52:08.240 Alexander the Great was gone in six months.

00:52:11.580 Now, was he poisoned or did he just die of exhaustion?

00:52:16.180 History doesn't know.

00:52:17.120 Andy, can you hang on?

00:52:18.400 We're going to take a short commercial break.

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Bannon's War Room - July 09, 2026

Episode 5503： The Woke Odyssey

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