00:19:55.740Yeah, we're here at Freedom Plaza, and the 4th of July was just the beginning of the celebration.
00:20:02.260It's the whole year. The state fair was a fantastic homage to the great states of this nation.
00:20:10.460But what we really wanted to do was come up with something that would last for the entire year and that would tell the story of the revolution so that the story was always fresh.
00:20:20.080So here at Freedom Plaza, we built a series of statues, 21 statues, and of course brought Caesar Rodney back.
00:20:27.220And so the best way to experience Freedom Plaza in person, of course, is to come to the park.
00:20:32.580And behind me, you'll see that they've turned on the fountain for the first time in 17 years.
00:20:36.720And that is the prison ship, as you were talking in your previous segment on.
00:20:40.380The prison ship is just not something, the British prison ships, people just don't know that much about them.
00:20:44.860And we really wanted to not just inform people about this horrible situation with the British,
00:20:52.160but we actually wanted to make it something that you would experience.
00:20:55.500And the British prison ship is eight panels that are shaped in the shape of a ship.
00:21:00.880And you actually enter into the ship and you see all the different reliefs of what these prisoners went through.
00:21:07.640And the final relief, which is only four feet tall, is them being set free after the war.
00:21:13.000But what's great about it is because the fountain is back on, while you stand in that prison ship, you hear the water, the fountain.
00:21:20.320The panels are at different heights, so they emulate the rocking of the ships.
00:21:24.620And so that is really the best place to start your experience in Freedom Plaza.
00:21:29.240And then as you look this way, you see the giant resurrected Caesar Rodney statue that was torn down in 2020
00:21:37.200and has been brought here to kick off this second part of the experience, which is the entire…
00:21:44.200Can I play some B-roll on the Rodney? I think we've got some B-roll on that.
00:21:47.660I want to understand. I want people to understand. I think it was in the summer of love when these anarchists and Marxists and people that hate this country.
00:21:55.600Let's let's play. Let's do a split screen with Matthew. Matthew, tell me about Caesar Rodney.
00:22:00.080Caesar Rodney kind of broke the tie. It was Caesar Rodney that was so important as a Delaware representative.
00:22:05.800This is one of the great men in American history. Tell me about the statue, how it was abused and what you guys did to make this a central part of this of this Liberty Plaza.
00:22:18.320Well, you know, in 2020, many statues were torn down and some were destroyed.
00:22:23.680Cesar Rodney was taken down, I believe, by actually the Delaware government.
00:22:41.400We built this beautiful pedestal, as you can see behind me, out of precast concrete and put him in the middle of this beautiful installation.
00:22:49.880And of course, Cesar Rodney had cancer. He had emphysema.
00:22:53.340He rode through a storm through the night to sign, to show up and be the tiebreaker that would set all of this in motion.
00:23:01.500And so, you know, while he's not always the common name on someone's lips when they talk about the founding fathers,
00:23:07.280he is a critical piece of why we are here at all.
00:23:11.400And we are so honored to be able to put him up here in the middle of Freedom Plaza, a place that has represented all sorts of activism and other things.
00:23:20.020And he is one of the original, you know, guys that got it done.
00:23:23.900And so he sits here in the middle of the plaza, of course, with the 12 soldiers of the revolution.
00:23:30.620We have five or six black patriots that we are honoring.
00:23:35.280There's all people from all ages, all creeds and everywhere that came together as ordinary people to create an extraordinary nation.
00:23:47.000And so you go from Caesar Rodney's ride, you walk through what we like to call the Revolutionary War, the soldiers.
00:23:53.940They have plaques that you can read to learn who they are and to understand them.
00:23:58.380They're all in motion. That's one thing that was very important in the design of the sculptures.
00:24:02.020We wanted to show these guys doing things, being active.
00:24:06.020And so when you finally go through all of those soldiers, of which you can spend quite a bit of time on because their stories are all so fascinating, when you get to the end of that, you get to the spirit of liberty.
00:24:16.280The spirit of liberty is a 21st century American icon similar to the Statue of Liberty or the Statue of Freedom on top of our U.S. Capitol, of which this plaza sits not far from.
00:24:26.620And she represents what all of this is here for, why Caesar Rodney Road, why those prisoners decided to stay on those ships when all they had to do was renounce the cause and walk off, why these soldiers fought and died to build this nation.
00:25:11.020It will be here for the duration of the 250th celebration, and it will be here for you to experience, for you to take your children to.
00:25:19.220I come here almost every day just to see how people are enjoying the statues, and it's wonderful to see families and people of all backgrounds reading, taking pictures.
00:25:30.460And so we're very, very excited for everybody to come see this, experience the statue, stand inside the prison ship and and, you know, celebrate this this amazing, amazing country for the next year or so.
00:25:43.140yeah no it's uh the feedback we've gotten is tremendous uh before i'm holding you through
00:25:48.380the break uh quickly before the break the park service deserves a hat tip here you guys i mean
00:25:53.740it's amazing that you and vince and you're the main guy in charge but vince's idea the president's
00:25:59.680idea was able to execute in such a limited amount of time you could not have done it without some
00:26:04.780great support by a national park service correct absolutely the park services have been absolutely
00:26:11.980amazing and they took a whole year to restore the plaza i mean honestly we had not seen the
00:26:17.460fountain turned on i didn't even know there was text in half of this plaza so the park services
00:26:21.780has has done an amazing job in freedom plaza and frankly they've done an amazing job across the
00:26:26.840entire city you know they i'm i'm from this area and a lot of these fountains i've never seen
00:26:31.640turned on a lot of this has not been cleaned they outdid themselves in a record amount of time and
00:26:36.780And it's a great honor to work with the Park Services.
00:26:41.380Matthew, can you just hang right there?
00:26:42.940We're going to come right back to you.
00:26:43.940A couple other things, a couple other details I want to make sure people get.
00:26:47.380And this is a great way to commemorate it, support this, you know,
00:26:50.900not just simply the Revolution book, other content we're going to be putting up.
00:26:54.820Like I said, we're going to go through what happened here.
00:26:57.960Patrick O'Donnell is going to be joining us next week and the weeks to come,
00:27:00.700other historians about the Revolution, and to connect to the patriots today.
00:27:06.400We have a lot of work to do, a lot of work.
00:27:08.660And you're going to see next week, I think, the scale of what we can accomplish
00:27:12.780and what is necessary to save this republic.
00:31:46.060It is an extension of what is already here in the monumental core of Washington, D.C., which, as you know, all of these monuments celebrate our nation and our founders.
00:31:59.500Come many times and have an experience of a lifetime.
00:32:01.940time. Yeah, and I want to thank you not just for doing it in the Brooklyn prison ships, but also
00:32:08.440the spirit of liberty. I think it's one of the most breathtaking, you know, classical pieces of
00:32:14.080sculpture I've seen, and it's such a, it's so fantastic to have it right there in the heart
00:32:18.780of Washington. I just can't thank you guys enough for conceiving this, you and Vince,
00:32:22.460and for making sure this got done so quickly. When you told me about it, I said, okay, that'll be done
00:32:26.760in 10 years. Check back with me at the end of the decade, but know you guys got it done. I want to
00:32:31.280thank the park service everybody involved matthew taylor thank you so much brother appreciate you
00:32:35.200thank you for having me steve appreciate it make sure you go down there it's going to stay for the
00:32:42.440entire year and it's extraordinary i think in vince haley you know most of the great speeches
00:32:48.420that then you know since uh middle of 2017 when vince came aboard like the warsaw speech so many
00:32:56.180of the great speeches uh vince has had with stephen miller has been like the chief architect
00:33:00.160so he just done a fantastic job he brings a real sense of american history to the white house okay
00:33:06.240we're going to connect that our revolutionary founding in this magnificent generation of men
00:33:11.920and women that fought and would not give up remember folks the reason we have our freedom
00:33:19.040is not a document the reason we have our freedom is that we fought for it for year after year after
00:33:24.480year and hey as we're going to see as we go through this summer and the fall all the way up
00:33:30.720to all the way up to christmas night it was virtually one unrelenting defeat after now
00:33:36.760amazing heroism and amazing courage and valor and just to stick in there and some of the things that
00:33:42.580you will will go in detail like the american thermopoly in brooklyn with the uh that renowned
00:33:48.420maryland regiment uh the american dunkirk right there where brooklyn bridge is today right at
00:33:53.940Brooklyn Heights to basically save the army, the Continental Army and the militias from total
00:33:58.720destruction with their back to the East River to get to Manhattan. The retreat across Manhattan,
00:34:03.800the retreat across the fighting retreat across New Jersey where the army never collapsed.
00:34:09.660That took courage and bravery. We'll get into all of that. But we also have to have our new
00:34:14.180courage and bravery to make sure that we can bequeath the greatest nation in the history of
00:34:20.020earth to future generations. That is the task and purpose, or that is the task at hand. And if it
00:34:27.660becomes your purpose, we'll get this done. If it's not, and this audience is absolutely central to
00:34:33.380that, I don't know. I just don't know. If you guys put your shoulder to the wheel, we'll win.
00:34:40.800Let's play today's cold open. Kurt Mills is going to join us right afterwards. So go ahead and play
00:34:45.000cold open. This is Pickaxe Mountain, another site where Iran is believed to be advancing1.00
00:34:50.480its nuclear capabilities deep underground. And in recent weeks, vehicles could clearly0.94
00:34:55.900be seen going in and out of the tunnels. Experts told CNN this was likely a violation
00:35:01.120of the term signed with the US, which required Iran to maintain the status quo regarding
00:35:06.600their nuclear program. In contrast, other prominent nuclear sites did not seem to have
00:35:11.540been touched, like Isfahan here, Fordeaux here and the Tants. There has been activity at some
00:35:18.240missile sites. The US and its allies have long been concerned about Tehran's missile capacity
00:35:23.220and the latest imagery suggests Iran has already started repairing some storage sites.
00:35:28.820This is new paving laid out at Tabriz missile base in recent days. And at another missile base
00:35:34.460in Kermanshah, we can see excavators and tunnel entrances being cleared. Lastly, we've also
00:35:39.660spotted repairs at air bases in recent days. You can see a crater being filled in here at Tabriz
00:35:44.820Air Base. With the U.S. resuming its attacks on Iran, a peace agreement is seeming increasingly
00:35:50.160out of reach. Axios reports that the Trump administration has given Iran a deadline of
00:35:54.960today to publicly announce that the Strait of Hormuz is open and stop attacks on commercial
00:36:00.900ships. That's according to three U.S. officials. And according to the Wall Street Journal,
00:36:06.580Officials said that the administration believes that a nuclear deal with Iran is growing increasingly unlikely.
00:36:13.100The journal also reports that Israel recently shared new intelligence with the U.S.
00:36:17.580that Iran was considering a plan to assassinate President Trump, according to people familiar with the matter.
00:36:23.880President Trump told the New York Post that he's left instructions
00:36:27.240should Iran succeed in their plots to, quote, just literally bomb them at levels they've never seen before.
00:36:33.740He reiterated that threat on social media late Friday, saying 1,000 missiles are locked and loaded and aimed at the Islamic Republic of Iran if the Iranian government carried out an assassination attempt against him.
00:36:45.600If you look at the Kashi prediction mark and the chance that six House Democrats go down to defeat, lose their primary in 2026, this number has consistently over the last week or so been hovering 80, 90 percent.
00:36:57.620And when we talk about history books, the history books, right, if in fact six House Democrats went down to defeat in 2026, it would be by far, it would be the largest number, be the largest number in a post-redistricting cycle for Democrats.
00:37:15.840That's why I got this picture of the Tea Party on your screen right now.
00:37:18.500We begin this hour with the clear message from the Trump administration about the midterm elections.
00:37:25.340carry it out the way we want, or face the consequences.
00:37:29.200That's basically what the White House said after Trump fired the remaining three members
00:37:33.560of the Bipartisan Election Assistance Commission this week.
00:37:37.220A White House official told MSNOW, quote,
00:37:41.080the president and head of the executive branch reserves the right to remove individuals
00:37:45.340that may not be totally aligned with the important task of securing America's elections
00:37:50.580and ensuring every legal vote is counted.
00:37:54.540Nowhere did that official indicate how these members failed in their task, but it may very well be that they were just not, quote, totally aligned with Trump's view of securing the election and the consequences have become even greater for the states.
00:38:09.840The New York Times reports that the administration could hold back tens of millions of dollars in anti-terrorism funds to states that do not agree to make changes to their election process, including transitioning to paper ballots and verifying the citizenship of voters.
00:38:27.440And if non-citizens were to vote, which is extremely rare and already against the law, the DOJ is threatening top election officials nationwide with criminal prosecution, according to a letter sent to all 50 states and reviewed by MSNOW.
00:38:43.940The DOJ is also planning to send election monitors to 15 jurisdictions in six states for the remaining primary elections this summer to, quote, ensure voter confidence in the upcoming primary elections.
00:38:57.440or at least that's what they say that's what they say that's what they say it's a little bit like
00:39:02.920groundhog day as you mentioned earlier this the ceasefire uh never actually went into effect uh
00:39:11.160fire never ceased trump violated it from the beginning by threatening the iranians which
00:39:15.880was something that was prescribed in the mou um this recent uh example of supposed supposed
00:39:24.040an assassination threat against Trump. And by the way, the Iranians are not good guys and have been0.99
00:39:29.220leaders of global terrorism for a long time. But the fact of an American president threatening0.81
00:39:35.900genocide against the whole people in case he's assassinated is more than unseemly. It's
00:39:41.100incredibly vulgar and undiplomatic language, which is what we've seen all week. So again,
00:39:47.980I think they're just playing for time. The Iranians may have overplayed their hand. They1.00
00:39:54.560got so much in the MOU, I would have just said, guys, go home and just start collecting the
00:40:00.100hundreds and millions and billions of dollars, which the U.S. promised to you. But what I think
00:40:06.320ultimately will happen is sort of like what has happened in Gaza. We're not talking about Gaza
00:40:10.580anymore. Where was the great peace deal in Gaza? Well, I think Trump will just kick this down the
00:40:15.840road for months and even years, and there'll be occasional flare-ups, but there'll never be a
00:40:21.360nuclear deal along the lines of what the JCPOA did under Obama. The elections are secure.
00:40:29.700Non-citizens, what was that story that we had was like vanishingly rare that a non-citizen votes,0.79
00:40:38.660And that is not, you know, on purpose.0.82
00:40:49.580And it feels like we have been having a similar conversation as a country since 2020, which is that Donald Trump created this lie from the beginning.
00:40:58.680Because it was in the summer that he started saying that the election was going to be stolen because of mail-in voting during COVID.
00:41:03.600And he laid the groundwork, has been getting people riled up.
00:41:07.060people died on january 6th because of this and has continued on and now he is back in the white
00:41:12.080house with all hands on power he has a doj that seems willing to do whatever he wants despite the
00:41:19.140fact that bill barr who was the who was the head of the doj who was the ag at the time said uh no
00:41:24.580the election was not stolen i'm not about to go do what you want he gets rid of this all the people
00:41:29.300in this election assistance commission which is supposed to also find ways to make sure that the
00:41:33.920states have what they need to do their own elections, because we don't have federal
00:41:37.260elections. We have, you know, 50 plus little elections. And so what it appears to be is that
00:41:43.120Donald Trump is laying the groundwork to shenanigan in the election at the very, at the very
00:41:50.600least, making it harder for people to vote, making it harder for secretaries of state to do their
00:41:55.360job. We will talk to Cisco Aguilar here in a second, but it's over and over and over.
00:41:59.020The new supreme leader this morning in a statement posted on to his telegram account, he called for revenge for the death of his father, his predecessor, saying it was, quote, the demand of the nation and, quote, must certainly take place.
00:42:17.200How do you being a former State Department official, how do you view that comment from the new supreme leader?
00:42:23.820And how do you think that's going over in the West Wing right now?
00:42:29.020Well, I think, Jonathan, it's equally irresponsible to Trump's statements.
00:42:34.180But one of the things we almost never talk about is the assassination by the U.S. and Israel of the leader of Iran's Shia Muslims, the religious and spiritual leader of Iran's Shia Muslims, the spiritual and religious leader of the world's 250 Shia Muslims, and something that offended probably the billion and a half Sunni Muslims around the world.
00:42:58.180I mean, it's just an incredible thing that happened.
00:43:01.240And I think what we saw with the outpouring of grief for the Ayatollah, of course, there's going to be a spirit of revenge there.
00:43:09.940I think he has to escalate his language.
00:43:13.200There's like escalation dominance of language because of what Trump says, that they have to reply to that.