Bannon's War Room - Episode 5515： China Is Manipulating American Trade

00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on

00:00:10.940 these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have

00:00:17.540 had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything

00:00:21.300 the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people

00:00:24.880 like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people

00:00:32.700 had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my

00:00:40.620 country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k bann

00:00:47.800 OK, Tuesday, 14 July, Year of the Lord, 2026.

00:00:52.520 We're going to go. We got Navarro on the phone with some breaking news from the White House.

00:00:57.940 Eric Metaxas is going to join us here momentarily.

00:01:02.100 Peter, we had a good print today, as Rick Santelli tells us.

00:01:08.140 Is that solely because oil prices were coming down for a moment as we because we notified Congress last night that we're back at war?

00:01:16.860 It starts the 60 day clock. Is there now, I guess, bought into the process of the War Powers Act, which I think is totally unconstitutional, but I guess you're going to do it.

00:01:28.060 You're going to do it right. Maybe we'll test the constitutionality of that. But the print was a good print, was it not, sir? 0.96

00:01:33.320 yes but see it was not a good print because oil prices went back down yes that was part of it but

00:01:43.040 we have a broad deflationary trend that's been going on for over a year because

00:01:49.220 trump policies are basically deflationary we were getting increased productivity you saw

00:01:56.740 And this, again, real wages are up.

00:02:00.520 And if you just go category by category by category, they're benefiting from Trump policies.

00:02:07.800 Remember, the big ones are the deregulation, the tax cuts, which lower the burden both on businesses and give people purchasing power.

00:02:16.440 You've got strategic energy dominance.

00:02:18.440 And you've got the fair trade.

00:02:20.280 Good print.

00:02:21.000 The big thing here, I did a little piece for Real Clear Markets.

00:02:25.580 The line is, you know, it's one thing to get egg on your face.

00:02:28.800 It's another to get a whole omelet.

00:02:30.560 You had this guy, Chris Waller, one of the Fed Board of Governors, coming out yesterday,

00:02:37.540 basically arguing for rate hikes and whining about, you know, watch the CPI tomorrow.

00:02:44.620 And sure enough, today, it's exactly the opposite.

00:02:46.940 That's an omelet on your face, brother.

00:02:49.180 That's an omelet.

00:02:50.080 And it's really important that Warsh gets a little religion on this message, Steve.

00:03:00.460 You don't raise rates into the teeth of an energy price shock, okay?

00:03:06.040 Bernanke didn't do it. Greenspan didn't do it.

00:03:09.120 You don't do it because it won't work. It won't help, okay?

00:03:13.640 And you've got these clowns on the board of governors who are Bidenites and Powellites, and it's just troubling to hear that. 0.90

00:03:26.440 And then you get a great print like this. 0.95

00:03:28.960 So, you know, let's see what happens.

00:03:31.960 We're fighting hard at the White House to get prices.

00:03:34.200 But hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.

00:03:36.680 But how can Warsh, he just got over there, right?

00:03:40.380 I try this one. Twenty eight. That is so much absurd, absurd number that's over at the the central bank, which I question, why do you even have a central bank?

00:03:50.060 But for the first time, you actually have governors that are hostile to the administration.

00:03:54.800 You've got Powell. You've got Waller. I mean, Warsh is walking in over there like in Saigon in 68. Is it not, sir?

00:04:02.100 He's basically five of the seven, Steve, that, you know, four Biden appointees.

00:04:07.300 Waller is a Minnesotan.

00:04:09.380 I don't know what they drink in the water there, but those folks don't think straight.

00:04:14.860 And I'm concerned about Warsh, to be honest, because he came out way more hawkish in his first speech than I think conditions warranted.

00:04:30.200 I mean, this whole idea of putting inflation first.

00:04:34.820 I mean, the Fed's supposed to balance employment.

00:04:37.820 That's our people, Steve.

00:04:39.600 OK, Wall Street ain't working with employment with inflation.

00:04:43.800 OK, and when when you put the inflation target first in a Trump world where everything we do is designed to lower the inflation rate,

00:04:55.740 It creates the kind of cognitive dissonance we got with Powell going back to the first term where he's raising rates because he thinks we can't grow that fast without causing inflation.

00:05:07.320 And sure enough, we grow that fast without causing inflation.

00:05:10.880 But they put the rate hikes on and they slow us down.

00:05:13.800 It's like it's just very, very frustrating to me.

00:05:19.060 These guys just are thinking in an old paradigm.

00:05:22.360 They don't understand Trump-nomics.

00:05:24.980 And this won't end well, Steve.

00:05:27.480 They're just waiting.

00:05:29.020 They're just waiting.

00:05:30.120 They're salivating to get some kind of bad report, and then they'll pounce all over it.

00:05:34.840 And for some reason, Wall Street seems to like that as well.

00:05:38.200 And I don't know.

00:05:39.780 You look at the financial news networks, and they're all, like, skewed towards rate hikes.

00:05:44.940 And I can't figure that out because the underlying economics don't work.

00:05:49.320 History doesn't work.

00:05:50.380 They're all set for they want a Greenspan put.

00:05:55.060 They're all set for I think is the exact opposite.

00:05:56.920 They all want easy money and rate cuts until President Trump's in office.

00:06:01.080 Right. And then they do a rate cut for Biden when they never should do one.

00:06:04.620 And all they want is rate hikes for Trump because they want to slow down.

00:06:07.100 They want they want to get rid of him.

00:06:10.000 They can they can mouth, oh, we love him, et cetera.

00:06:12.300 They want to get rid of him.

00:06:13.200 They think he's disruptive and breaking up the, you know, breaking up the ruling class in this country.

00:06:18.580 They want to get rid of him, and this is why you're even having this discussion of why Powell's hanging around.

00:06:22.820 Talk to me about USMC, the trade deal we've got with Mexico and, you know, the North with Mexico and Canada.

00:06:31.420 You were one of the big architects of that.

00:06:33.520 Why does the president want to throw it overboard now, sir?

00:06:36.860 I'm not going big architects on that.

00:06:39.280 I was big cutting what would have been the perfect China deal.

00:06:43.260 But that USMCA thing, I was with the boss on that.

00:06:46.300 He was always, like, skeptical because it had, like, literally thousands and thousands of moving parts, right?

00:06:54.020 And ultimately, what USMCA depends on is the honesty and integrity of your trading partners, okay?

00:07:02.420 And for better or for worse, and it certainly is for worse, Mexico particularly has allowed itself, under the rules of the USMCA, to become a staging area for Chinese parts and autos.

00:07:15.960 OK, as well as the state of all sorts of other things. 0.88

00:07:19.040 But here's the deal.

00:07:21.080 There's the piece in the hill today.

00:07:23.560 OK, recommend reading it.

00:07:25.640 Basically, it talks about how Trump, my president, came out with a tweet that said, you know,

00:07:31.060 tariffs are great because Toyota announced they're moving their Tacoma midsize pickup to San Antonio.

00:07:38.920 OK, from Tijuana.

00:07:40.380 OK, that's a big deal.

00:07:41.520 And his tweet, his truth was tariffs work.

00:07:45.060 Right. And then Jameson Greer, our great USTR, came out with a report like literally days later that basically went chapter and verse about how our auto and auto deficit has skyrocketed when under USMCA was supposed to fall.

00:08:01.820 And the primary drivers, the frigging Chinese doing it again to us, just screwing us again. 0.99

00:08:07.680 OK. And so. Weird. You sound you sound you sound you sound surprised to that. 1.00

00:08:16.060 You and Lighthizer worked for two years. You had a deal that took care of the original seven original sins of the Chinese Communist Party, state owned industries, all of them for two years. 0.83

00:08:27.900 You had sign off. And then at the very last second, she and one she Sean took a look at it after the one belt, one road conference with Putin and said, why are we signing something that makes us a subsidiary of the foreign devils? 0.84

00:08:43.080 They tore it up. Next thing you know, wait for it. Pandemic. Wait for it. Intrusion in the 2020 election. Anything. Their number one objective has been to get rid of Donald Trump and to make sure they still have access to the United States with their mercantilist policies as the elites in this country want to give them to sell their cheap junk and ship high value added jobs over to China. Correct, sir?

00:09:10.260 uh yeah that's exactly right and i'll tell you i mean look the usmca would would probably

00:09:17.620 probably would have worked if we had stayed in power for the second term because light

00:09:22.700 heiser would have been around to police the damn thing but you negotiate that deal and then you put 0.92

00:09:27.920 biden in charge of that what the hell is going to happen these people like i did just like they 0.98

00:09:33.060 were incompetently put the wheel and and all of that stuff but um the good news is we're getting

00:09:40.580 pretty much all of the tacoma pickup truck capacity in the united states that's not as good as gm

00:09:48.860 building the cars with american ownership and american workers but it's a lot better than

00:09:54.940 having a foreign company doing it in a foreign you know in a foreign country with chinese parts

00:10:01.840 It's a big deal, Steve. 0.99

00:10:04.220 It's a big deal.

00:10:04.740 It's the beginning, right?

00:10:06.060 As they call it.

00:10:06.500 It's going to, you know, Honda, Nissan, yada, yada, yada.

00:10:09.600 They're all coming. 0.92

00:10:11.360 And this thing about communist China, I want to give an assignment to the war room. 0.83

00:10:16.780 Really go to my website, PeterNavarro.com, and refresh your memory on the Navarro report,

00:10:23.860 the three-volume Navarro report.

00:10:26.220 The cat's out of the bag.

00:10:28.320 You know, the MSNBC has been briefed on some news coming out about.

00:10:33.860 Hold it. Hold it. Hold it. Hold it. Hold it. Hold it.

00:10:37.380 This is a beautiful segue. You've gotten pretty good at this.

00:10:40.260 You know, if this White House thing doesn't work out for you, I think we've got a co-hosting gig for you.

00:10:45.900 That's I want to be very specific.

00:10:48.700 The Navarro report is still one of the best mathematical reports of what happened in 2020,

00:10:54.980 because at your heart, you're a mathematician slash economist.

00:11:01.680 That's why everybody, where do they go get?

00:11:03.380 Because you're right, to refresh your memory, start by before the Thursday speech by the president

00:11:09.000 or addressed to the nation by the president, you should refresh it.

00:11:12.880 Where do the people go today, Peter?

00:11:14.700 Because I want to push that out hard.

00:11:16.040 Yeah, it's PeterNavar.com. It's right there. It's obviously for free. And Steve, the central insight of the report was that the Democrats put in place an elaborate system which made fraud easy.

00:11:32.060 Okay, it was I called it the grand stuff the ballot box strategy or taking things away like signature verification and extending absentee ballot. All that stuff enables the steal.

00:11:44.840 So when you have that and then you put on top of that what you're likely going to see with these documents coming out, you understand why you and I, when we were trying to do the Green Bay sweep legally under the Electoral Count Act of 1887, all we wanted was a fair counting of the votes to look again.

00:12:09.520 And we were branded for election deniers, liars, this, that, and the other thing.

00:12:15.060 Hey, you're going to see, if I haven't seen this, I'm not directly involved in any of this, 0.89

00:12:22.300 but as long as it's out there, because there's briefings and s*** like that,

00:12:26.780 you're going to see that those votes should have been counted.

00:12:32.760 J6 should have ended a whole lot differently, and shame on Mike Pence, okay?

00:12:37.480 Shame on Mike Pence.

00:12:38.500 Well, or, or, or, or, or you just can't certify them.

00:12:43.760 It's not about getting Trump electors in there.

00:12:45.980 As we said, the Electoral Count Act of 1887.

00:12:51.000 And why did this happen, ladies and gentlemen?

00:12:52.820 Because after the Civil War, even before, when they stole one from Andrew Jackson,

00:12:58.260 you know, John Quincy Adams and the boys, the elite up in Massachusetts stole one.

00:13:02.340 Then after the Civil War, it was a fracas.

00:13:06.020 They decided they'd put good order and discipline.

00:13:08.040 You don't do a re-vote. You kick it into the House of Representatives and you do state by state delegation vote.

00:13:14.480 Guess what? Donald John Trump would be president. But divine providence.

00:13:19.580 I think Peter said it was good that we had four years in the wilderness and that Bannon and Navarro and God's infinite wisdom spent a little time in federal prison.

00:13:28.780 That's OK. We got that. Navarro, we got to bounce. Where do people go? Peter Navarro dot com. Where else?

00:13:33.760 well that'll get you everything get you to the truth social x instagram getter and my sub stack

00:13:43.280 okay just a lot of content um is coming out and today go to the hill support the hill

00:13:50.400 they put good stuff out i got a piece in real clear on cpi and again uh just uh what i'm trying

00:13:57.540 to do steve this message the the trump economics message okay that's that's what we have to do

00:14:05.440 to win in november okay and that's my job description here okay it's like get stuff

00:14:12.100 create jobs and let people know we're doing it populist nationalist economics will win

00:14:18.000 every time peter navarro thank you brother you're the best go back to work now what a warrior

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00:18:40.060 Eric Metaxas, resilience. The one thing about revolution, because we're not doing, and I know

00:18:47.820 you didn't do the book just to write the book of the history of the time. It was for a deeper

00:18:51.840 purpose, because what it can tell us about our country, what it can tell us about the character

00:18:56.040 of our country, what it can tell us about the character of the people that delivered, because

00:19:00.380 there weren't many right particularly at the beginning it's about resilience you keep saying

00:19:06.700 and i think it's it's it you've stuck the landing on this these people particularly the initial

00:19:12.340 group believed this was a sacred cause and this country would be a sacred trust and that's why

00:19:20.720 they risked all to do it against overwhelming odds and everything right now today the thing i love

00:19:26.420 about your book. And this is, I think, folks, when you get into it, forget how you know the outcome,

00:19:32.640 forget how you know the moves, forget how you know what happened. Right now, down in the battery,

00:19:38.340 on the 14th of July, in the year of our Lord, 1776, all they looked out and saw a forest

00:19:44.740 of British warships, the Royal Navy, the greatest institution for inflicting pain that had ever

00:19:52.460 been developed this is they built an empire plus the british army uh 32 000 i think what 22 000 0.58

00:20:00.680 brits and uh six to eight thousand german hessian mercenaries the biggest badasses in the world

00:20:07.020 that's what you looked out upon uh when you look there you didn't know the outcome the power of 0.99

00:20:13.020 this book is every page you turn and in their own words they had no idea how this would turn out

00:20:19.880 but they had a deep, abiding faith that they were agents for divine providence

00:20:27.160 in doing something that was sacred, and that's where they were prepared to risk all.

00:20:33.000 Eric Metaxas, the floor is yours, sir.

00:20:36.180 Well, that's the thing.

00:20:37.400 Thank you, Steve, is that this is a battle today.

00:20:41.360 As I listen to your program, we're in this battle now.

00:20:45.540 So the question is, it's one thing to get angry.

00:20:47.760 It's one. The question is, where is your faith? Now, it's one thing to say you're resilient. Some people, you know, you knock them down, they get up. You knock them down, they get up. The question is, why do you get up? The reason that George Washington and almost all of the others were indomitable was, I'll put it bluntly, because their faith in the God of the Bible.

00:21:13.040 They believed he was with them in the sacred cause.

00:21:16.860 And the sacred cause, that word, it's not even enough.

00:21:21.700 It was a holy cause.

00:21:24.300 They believed that the Lord was with them.

00:21:28.200 When you believe the Lord is with you, and we say that humbly, you don't say like, hey,

00:21:33.300 God's with me.

00:21:34.380 You humble yourself.

00:21:36.140 You're aware of your own sin.

00:21:37.700 And you say, Lord, what an honor it would be that we could fight for your purposes in history, Lord.

00:21:44.740 Search my heart.

00:21:45.760 They were always, all of them, humbling themselves before God.

00:21:48.480 It wasn't, you know, chest-beating triumphalism.

00:21:51.380 They thought, we deserve to lose because we are not as powerful as the British Navy or Army.

00:21:57.140 The Hessians are frightening.

00:21:58.360 but but if God is with us and we are with God if this is God's idea we must fight on no matter what

00:22:10.200 God is the one who determines who wins they believe this and we need to understand that's

00:22:16.380 not just a nice idea it's not just a handful of them who were Christians this was the leadership

00:22:20.920 George Washington above all they knew this was true and it's like right out of the Old Testament

00:22:26.420 You know, they could see past the forest of masts in the Navy.

00:22:34.400 They could see past that in a sense to like God is on his throne.

00:22:38.300 There are chariots of fire that are invisible.

00:22:41.340 This is real, right?

00:22:42.680 We have to understand we're in a battle.

00:22:44.700 Either we're working for God's purposes or it's just politics or it's just power and we're no better than the other guy.

00:22:51.440 we have to be aware that what we're doing, this is God's idea, and that they were aware of this

00:22:59.040 at the time. And so we're in a battle right now. I think I told you, Barnes & Noble is still not

00:23:04.060 carrying the book. It's been on the bestseller list four weeks on the New York Times bestseller

00:23:08.820 list. You walk into a Barnes & Noble, you want to see the battle. How is it possible that every

00:23:13.060 other New York Times bestseller is on tables in stacks at Barnes & Noble? There are people out

00:23:18.420 there that hate the truth. They hate this narrative. They hate the idea that Trump is going

00:23:24.660 to reveal fraud in the 2020 election. They hate it. And they'll do anything, including lie,

00:23:31.620 censor, whatever it is, try to get ahead of the story, call it disinformation. We are in a battle

00:23:37.240 right now. It's the same battle. It's the battle of good versus evil. It's just that we're alive

00:23:43.040 now. And it takes a certain form now. And I think that we have to understand that the men of the

00:23:48.660 revolution, they were keenly aware that unless they humble themselves before God and look to

00:23:54.100 him in the midst of this hell, there's no way they're going to be resilient. They're going to

00:23:58.640 go home. Common sense says, you know what? Go home. Why are you fighting this fight? But if you knew

00:24:05.600 why you're fighting, and that's why I hope people will read my book or acquaint themselves. When

00:24:11.740 you understand that this is a battle that goes back 250 years ago, a battle for liberty,

00:24:18.360 God's idea of America. America is God's idea. We need to know that. And every lie, I mean,

00:24:24.520 you know, from the New York Times, MS Now, they cannot bear the truth. Obviously, Barnes and Noble

00:24:31.840 is uncomfortable with the narrative in my book. You want Mike Pence's book? They got a big stack.

00:24:36.380 You want any other book? They got big stacks of Jill Biden's book. They don't carry this book.

00:24:41.740 Honestly, I didn't think I was doing anything revolutionary in writing the book.

00:24:45.140 It's an historical book.

00:24:46.140 You've read it.

00:24:46.740 This is not some MAGA tract.

00:24:49.020 But when you tell the truth, it scares the other side.

00:24:52.460 They are scared to death of the truth.

00:24:55.080 They're scared that the 2020 election interference is going to be shown.

00:24:59.760 They can't bear it.

00:25:01.260 They have to lie.

00:25:02.380 They have to gaslight their audiences, hoping that enough people will believe the lie, hoping

00:25:07.360 that people won't read the truth.

00:25:08.800 So we're in this battle right now. And it's just it's good to know, you know, you're one of the generals in this, Steve. I mean, it's we need people to understand where we are right now. This is not just, you know, another day in politics. This is an existential crisis for the soul of America. You know, and I know, and your audience knows they want to take Trump down.

00:25:29.760 and they want to destroy him because he is draining the swamp. He's on to them. I got to

00:25:36.000 say, I mean, I, you know, people say, may you live in interesting times. We are living in

00:25:43.040 interesting times. We get to be players in this ongoing revolution today. We get to do that.

00:25:49.640 That's a Chinese curse. May you live in interesting times. 1.00

00:25:53.200 Right. Exactly.

00:25:53.720 A couple things. How many, you've been, it's five weeks, I think, is the book out five weeks? You've

00:25:58.700 been on the bestseller list for four, including the initial first week, which is so important.

00:26:02.820 One week, we did miss it. It sold, and the first week was number two on the bestseller list,

00:26:06.500 and it sold so much that they ran out of copies, so they didn't ship copies, so it fell off the

00:26:10.780 list because they only count books that have shipped. But every other week, it has been on.

00:26:15.440 We're going to find out tomorrow if it's on the week again. But try to imagine a New York Times

00:26:20.140 bestseller at the top of the list, nowhere to be found, not one copy. I walked to Barnes & Noble

00:26:26.340 in South Lake, Texas, a conservative area, not one copy. I asked the clerk and he said, well,

00:26:31.840 we've got two on order, two copies. They got stacks of Jill Biden's. They got every other

00:26:37.300 book you want, every other bestseller, piles of them, not one copy of my book. Can you hang on

00:26:43.320 through the break? I want to ask you about the religious aspect of this, but how many hits,

00:26:48.740 so you've been, is it four weeks you've been on the bestseller list out of five weeks?

00:26:52.520 four out of five so far yes four to five four to five so far and uh it's it's a it's a massive

00:26:58.460 bestseller how many fox hits have you done in the past five weeks sir what's the aramaic word for

00:27:06.320 zero uh so fox news the great the great standard bearer which had pence on the great standard

00:27:14.360 bearer and the driver of conservative culture i just want you to repeat that how many hits for

00:27:19.920 the number one bestseller about the American Revolution that tells the true story. Eric

00:27:25.620 Metaxas, how many times have you been on Fox? I still hope to get on, but so far I have not been

00:27:33.300 on Fox TV. I'm not so sure they'll put you on after the shows you've been on that made this

00:27:39.740 number one. They can't eat crow. Also, the Murdochs are notorious. Well, first off, they're

00:27:45.320 part of the Commonwealth. They're not even Americans. Oh, that's right. They switched

00:27:49.280 became American so he could buy a TV network. 0.61

00:27:51.380 Oh, that's right, in the middle of the night. 0.77

00:27:52.920 I'm sorry.

00:27:53.840 He's so American. 1.00

00:27:56.520 Complete farce. 1.00

00:27:58.360 Eric Metaxas, hang on for one second.

00:28:01.140 I want to see you on the other side.

00:28:04.380 Oh, my God.

00:28:06.580 Unbelievable.

00:28:07.120 We'll take a short commercial break.

00:28:08.820 Eric Metaxas on the other side.

00:28:12.240 Tej Gale, I think we're getting Tej Gale up, too.

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00:30:43.260 allfamilypharmacy.com. So Metaxas, here's what I'm saying. Starting by, I guess, like 1525, 1530,

00:30:51.320 England was racked with religious wars. Henry VIII, all the issues he had with the Vatican and,

00:30:58.680 you know, his marriages and getting an heir, the whole thing. Thomas Morey had the English

00:31:03.000 Reformation was brutal. He had religious wars that eventually ended up with an official state

00:31:09.180 church, a state Christian church that had, at least initially, many of the customs and traditions

00:31:15.020 of Catholicism, but the king ran the deal. Why do you continue to say, and most of these,

00:31:25.840 particularly the initial wave of the patriots, obviously they were English subjects, but they

00:31:32.380 were very English to their core, including many, not all, there's a lot of the pilgrims and

00:31:38.100 puritans but many were members of the anglican church here the episcopal church uh you know

00:31:43.580 some in very good standing a lot of vestry men um why do you continue to say that this is a

00:31:50.260 religious and sacred cause from the colonists and the rebels and the people fighting for freedom

00:31:55.240 particularly that vanguard where they're going against a basically a country with a state

00:32:02.740 religion that was Christianity, sir. Right. Well, I'll tell you why, because a state religion means

00:32:09.440 nothing. Our country, which is probably the most Christian country in the history of the world,

00:32:15.820 is not officially a Christian nation. Why? Because at the heart of Scripture, at the heart

00:32:23.140 of the Christian faith, is this idea called liberty. You cannot force people to be Christian.

00:32:29.080 it doesn't matter, you know, oh, you've been baptized, you've been, you claim to be a Christian,

00:32:34.260 God looks on the heart. He knows, you know, if you're saved by faith, right, it means that you're

00:32:40.120 going to live in a different way. So you can't fool God by saying, I believe this, I belong to

00:32:45.920 that church. So the Church of England was, first of all, filled with hypocrites, filled with people 0.99

00:32:52.680 that themselves believed almost nothing but wearing a collar. You know, those people exist 0.97

00:32:57.380 in every denomination in Christendom, and the fact of the matter is that when William Wilberforce,

00:33:01.920 I wrote a biography of Wilberforce, Amazing Grace, who brought about the abolition of the

00:33:07.680 slave trade, it was the same story, is that the people who really believe are at odds with the

00:33:14.380 people who just believe officially, right? So you had in England, just because it was officially

00:33:21.140 Christian, as I say in my book, the elites in England, including King George IV, the son of

00:33:30.200 King George III, many of them were just notoriously mocking of Christian faith.

00:33:39.800 So you can say you're anything, and it means nothing. The question is, do you live it? Do

00:33:46.040 you believe it. So you had many in England who were true believers. What did they do?

00:33:52.920 They went across the Atlantic to settle in the 13 colonies because they were being persecuted,

00:33:57.900 because the official church of England, the state church, was persecuting Bible-believing

00:34:05.600 Christians. You know, you can go to China today and say, can I attend the official church? And

00:34:11.060 they go, yeah, there's some official churches. You go to those churches where they wouldn't dare

00:34:15.160 talk about politics or anything we don't want them to talk about because the state rules.

00:34:19.520 But if you want to go to an underground church, you're in trouble. In England, it was the same

00:34:24.240 thing. I mean, all through the 17th century, you have hordes of Bible-believing Christians saying, 0.57

00:34:31.020 we're going to go across the Atlantic, take our chances in the new world, because in England,

00:34:35.840 we're being persecuted. The pilgrims were persecuted by King James I. And so official

00:34:41.700 religion, we have to understand, it basically means nothing. It's just a tribal identity.

00:34:47.260 The Americans were clearly serious, most of them very serious about their Christian faith.

00:34:54.240 As for King George III, I mean, I think he was actually a Christian, but he was politically

00:34:59.060 confused. You can actually be a Christian and get all kinds of stuff totally wrong. And many

00:35:05.680 members of parliament were mocking of Christian faith. So it's just a battle. I mean, I talk

00:35:11.600 about it in the book to some extent, because it really is at the heart of the American Revolution.

00:35:17.980 In some ways, it was a spiritual war between people who really believed in the God of the

00:35:23.280 Bible and in the idea of liberty and that our rights come from God, and a bunch of politicians

00:35:29.640 in parliament who just sneered at the idea. It's like, shut up, just do what you're told. We got

00:35:35.060 the power. We will make you obey us. And the Americans said, no, we obey God rather than men.

00:35:41.600 So it's something that's been playing out through the millennia and the centuries. It's happening now. I don't need to tell you. The Hollywood elites, the liberal elites in Washington, the rhino elites, they sneer at these ideas of our founding. They sneer at it. They sneer at the people in flyover country who hold to these ideas. They mock us for clinging to our Bibles and our guns.

00:36:04.640 There's nothing new under the sun, Steve. We're fighting in the same revolution today, and the stakes are even higher than ever because it's a global thing. We're dealing with China. We're dealing with Islamofascism. So we are still called to look to the God of the Bible in the midst of this and to trust him.

00:36:23.940 The folks that have held their Bible and their guns dear had a pretty good track record in the United States of America and throughout the world, I might add.

00:36:35.740 Metaxas, where do people go to get the book?

00:36:38.120 Most importantly, where do they find you on your travels?

00:36:41.360 People want to get a signed copy from you.

00:36:43.420 They want to meet you.

00:36:44.260 They want to thank you.

00:36:45.080 They've got tons of questions.

00:36:46.680 Where do they go?

00:36:48.000 Yeah.

00:36:48.400 Well, I would say at this point, please go to Amazon.

00:36:51.400 They've got one day shipping now.

00:36:52.680 They got plenty of books at Amazon.

00:36:54.040 The price is way cheaper than Barnes & Noble, I can tell you that.

00:36:57.120 And I also, if you go to ericmetaxas.com, I am going to be in Maine this weekend, in

00:37:01.960 Bangor, Maine, in Camden, Maine.

00:37:03.780 I'm going to be in L.A. next week.

00:37:05.660 I'm going to be in Nashville after that, signing books at Landmark Bookstore in Nashville.

00:37:10.340 I'm preaching in Murfreesboro, Tennessee.

00:37:12.900 A week after that, I'll be back in Dallas preaching at Elevate Church.

00:37:16.360 I'm signing books wherever I go and on and on from there.

00:37:19.180 So just ericmetaxas.com and Amazon, the best place to get the book.

00:37:22.940 Thank you, Steve.

00:37:24.220 Thank you, brother.

00:37:25.060 It reads like a novel.

00:37:25.880 It's a beach read.

00:37:26.720 Like I said, you put this under your arm, hitting the beach, people say, that is a smart person.

00:37:31.040 You actually read the book, which you won't put down as soon as you dip into it.

00:37:35.020 You will become a smart person, at least smarter.

00:37:37.520 Eric Metaxas, thank you.

00:37:39.640 Thank you.

00:37:41.240 Anti-fragile.

00:37:43.940 That's a system.

00:37:45.480 That's what the MAGA movement is.

00:37:46.860 Anti-fragile.

00:37:47.880 Resilience.

00:37:48.280 That's what the rebels were, the revolutionaries.

00:37:53.440 They get stronger as you put more stress on them.

00:37:59.280 Tej Gil, isn't that the theory of the case of special warfare

00:38:02.280 and commandos and Navy SEALs?

00:38:04.740 They want to weed out the ribbon clerks very quickly 0.76

00:38:07.740 from these training programs and then take the people

00:38:11.580 that can actually make it through the initial kind of couple of weeks

00:38:14.900 and then put you under intense pressure to see how anti-fragile

00:38:18.220 and see if you actually grow and become better and become tougher,

00:38:22.060 that pressure is needed, that chaos is needed,

00:38:25.040 that stress is needed to get down to the core of character.

00:38:28.700 This is what happened in the revolution.

00:38:30.200 This is the testing we're going through right now as a country.

00:38:33.640 What was it like in your training as a SEAL, sir?

00:38:37.900 100%, Steve.

00:38:38.860 Pressure makes diamonds.

00:38:40.500 You got to put constant pressure on people,

00:38:43.440 and then that's how you grow character.

00:38:46.740 that's how you bring out people's talents and abilities you got we like you said our forefathers

00:38:53.940 were rebels you know they created this amazing great country by fighting back against tyranny

00:39:00.960 the you know the English in 1776 was an incredible time I think we need that again we are our country

00:39:08.160 is filled full of corrupt politicians corrupt leaders we're being robbed at every corner you

00:39:14.920 You know, that's, but yes, to your point, pressure makes diamonds.

00:39:19.080 That's these selection programs for these special operations units and military wide, you know, through, it's not, it's not all just physical because we have, we have guys that show up that are literally Olympic athletes and they wash out.

00:39:31.200 So you have to be mentally tough, mentally prepared, and you have to have the wherewithal to withstand time under pressure.

00:39:42.060 No, that's the – you can be the greatest athlete in the world, but you're going to wash out.

00:39:50.160 In fact, if you go and –

00:39:51.160 It's just like these wars that are going on right now between the United States and Iran and Russia and Ukraine.

00:39:59.280 It's a test of time.

00:40:00.780 It's a wherewithal.

00:40:01.900 It's a grind.

00:40:02.840 You have to be able to withstand the grind if you want to win.

00:40:06.200 If you can't withstand the grind, then don't get into the game.

00:40:12.060 So it's a war of attrition.

00:40:14.520 And that's what the selection program is all.

00:40:17.140 Sorry.

00:40:18.600 The president sent over notification to the House and Senate, I think last night, that we're officially back at war.

00:40:26.660 I guess the MOU is gone now and we're back at war to start the 60 day clock.

00:40:31.000 Your thoughts about that, sir?

00:40:35.240 Unfortunately, that's the case.

00:40:37.680 I think Trump wants to get out of this war.

00:40:40.360 He was looking for a quick, decisive victory like Venezuela.

00:40:45.320 He did not want this long, drawn-out war that it's turning into.

00:40:50.140 My take on it is I think he's trying to bomb them into submission or bomb them back to the table. 1.00

00:40:56.000 But the problem is the Iranians, they're tough hombres, like you would say.

00:41:00.780 And they've been living under sanctions, embargoes, and everything since the early 80s. 0.99

00:41:06.340 So bringing them back to the table is going to be difficult because we killed all the moderates.

00:41:12.600 So now the hardliners are running the country and Iran has created a decentralized command structure.

00:41:19.740 So it's difficult to get all these decentralized commands and bring them back to the negotiating table.

00:41:27.940 So the question is, who is really in charge of Iran right now?

00:41:32.160 But we'll see. 0.98

00:41:34.420 Hopefully it ends quick. 0.81

00:41:36.340 But this is what you brought decentralized command.

00:41:38.960 The president just said yesterday, he was talking to somebody.

00:41:41.360 He said they had spent 11 hours or 12 hours in a continuous negotiation with this group, and they were told they had a deal.

00:41:52.480 And then when they get back a couple hours later, this is what the president said.

00:41:56.120 Well, there was one group or some group they had to run it by in which they didn't know.

00:42:00.380 They hadn't been upfront about that, and that group didn't like a certain aspect of it.

00:42:04.980 Next thing you know, they're lobbing drones and missiles into Qatar, into the field over there, and they're hitting a couple of these tankers in the Persian Gulf.

00:42:17.880 And this gets to me, when you've devastated their command structure as much as we have, you've gone down to sometimes almost a brigade level.

00:42:26.820 Well, what you're finding out in this Darwinian system, the deeper you go down, you don't meet a lot of moderates.

00:42:32.780 You meet people that aspire to the top, and they're even harder at the bottom than the heart at the top because they're true believers, and they feel they've got to show they're true believers all the time.

00:42:42.940 And so you don't have, and this is one of the things I've argued from the beginning, who do you even negotiate with?

00:42:47.840 I mean, Trita Parsi said it, I think, the best.

00:42:50.200 He says, look, I don't think you're ever going to get to a signed deal.

00:42:53.360 It's too complicated.

00:42:54.420 There's too many voices over there, and there's too many people looking to take advantage.

00:42:58.900 Oh, they're selling you out to Trump.

00:43:00.860 They're selling you out to the Americans.

00:43:02.080 follow us. And that's what's going to be very tough. And President Trump, as of I think we've 0.89

00:43:07.980 had three waves of attacks now in three nights, he said, hey, he's going to keep the pressure up,

00:43:12.620 at least keep it up kinetically. Now, economically, he also put up and said, hey, oh, by the way,

00:43:17.840 it's going to be a 20 percent service fee, not a toll, a service fee on everything coming in and

00:43:24.160 out. Anyway, that's a forcing function. Taze Gill's with us. We're going to take a short

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00:45:12.000 Okay, Tej, decentralized command structure,

00:45:16.700 and then I got to talk about the greatest coffee in the world

00:45:18.980 because i need a big pot and we're going to need big pots through thursday night by the way thursday

00:45:25.220 we're going to do wall-to-wall coverage don't read the axios is saying it's going to be a put

00:45:30.180 was it potpourri it's a potpourri of a speech that is not a phrase that i've ever heard donald

00:45:37.240 john trump i've never heard i've never i think it means a bouquet of many different flavors i don't

00:45:42.820 know i just know that's not a that's not a this is the guy that said uh locker room it's not

00:45:49.320 locker room banter it's locker room talk so i don't he's not a he's not a potpourri guy uh

00:45:56.100 decentralized command structure sir yeah i just want to also touch on um the hardliners that are

00:46:03.620 now running iran they're they're not just hardliner iranian nationalists so it's not just

00:46:09.720 about the fight for iran these guys are religious extremists so they they they believe islam should

00:46:16.580 control the entire middle east in the world so that so we took out the moderates and now now

00:46:23.400 we're dealing with religious extremists and iranian nationalists so they want to control

00:46:29.300 the entire middle east and then on the other side you have israel and they want to control the

00:46:34.520 Middle East and then on our side we want denuclearization and we want freedom of navigation 0.96

00:46:40.360 in the Strait of Hormuz so it's it's tough to bring this thing to an end that's at this point 0.80

00:46:48.520 so we'll see what happens uh stand by that's what I think the president's done the forcing

00:46:54.300 function of the 20 percent that would get everybody's attention in that region including

00:46:59.060 the into rural navy everybody talk to me about i need a big pot of warpath coffee right now

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00:49:48.860 I want to get to the greatest sale in 250 years.

00:49:52.500 It took us 250 years to get here.

00:49:54.980 But in Thursday night, because now they're spinning, MSNBC's got it. 0.99

00:50:00.240 They're telling us it's just all this crap. 0.99

00:50:02.180 It's all the wing nuts like Tina Peters and Mike Lindell. 1.00

00:50:05.900 I know you're looking forward to seeing this because a lot of it, I think,

00:50:09.160 is going to be about the machines.

00:50:11.240 There's going to be mail-in ballots too, I'm sure,

00:50:13.020 but it's also in a whole process, but a lot of it's about machines.

00:50:16.780 Do you feel vindicated? Are you going to feel vindicated on Thursday night, sir, given you've spent, I don't know, 60, 70, 80 million dollars of your own money?

00:50:24.960 They tried to bankrupt you. The FBI tried to put you in prison. All of it, sir.

00:50:29.580 I just want I'm not worried about really feeling vindicated.

00:50:33.040 I just want the whole country to know the urgency of this that we've been that's been going on for five years here since we found all this stuff that happened in 2020.

00:50:42.580 has revealed all this information over the last five years. These are facts. I want the whole

00:50:48.300 country to be on board. I don't care what party you're in, to know that when Obama said our

00:50:53.200 elections are critical infrastructure, he deemed them as such. We've got to do something right now

00:50:58.720 so foreign countries can't interfere in our elections and we have citizens voting in our

00:51:03.880 elections. It's pretty common sense. So I'm really looking forward to coming out. It'll

00:51:12.160 be amazing if Fox actually reports on this and says everything that comes out of this report.

00:51:17.460 That's what I'm looking forward to. I guess I'll feel a little vindicated going, hey, I was right

00:51:22.520 the whole time. But for Fox or Newsmax to actually report that, hey, look at these problems. Mike was

00:51:28.840 right. That would be kind of cool. That would be nice. Okay. Talk to me about the, it took 250

00:51:34.280 years to get to the sale. What is it? Why is it so special? This is the last day of that sale.

00:51:40.880 it's where two sales collide you guys we actually now have a bundle pack we put together with the

00:51:46.480 sale that comes once every 250 years it's a four pack special that we have on our pillows there

00:51:53.520 and 49.98 you guys if i can see yeah 49.98 four pillows you get two two of our classic bed pillows

00:52:01.440 and then two of our go anywhere pillows for 49.98 we bundled a special there and then our it collides

00:52:07.680 also with our mega two sail that's our giza dream sheets our my pillow giza dream sheets as low as

00:52:14.640 29.98 our towels uh 39.98 six piece towel sets and then our mattress toppers and our pillows the

00:52:23.280 mattress toppers low as 99.98 but these sales colliding now the remember of the ones ending

00:52:29.280 today we ran it over till this morning it comes once every 250 years and this is it everybody so

00:52:36.080 right now go to the website mypillow.com forward slash war room check it all out there right now

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Bannon's War Room - July 14, 2026

Episode 5515： China Is Manipulating American Trade

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