00:00:00.000Tim Walts has been to the People's Republic of China over 30 times, beginning first in September 1989, just after Tiananmen, when the People's Republic of China was very much a closed society.
00:00:23.080and but he was there and came back many times got married on the anniversary of the Tiananmen
00:00:30.640Square massacre when the Chinese Communist Party crushed a pro-democracy movement and he started
00:00:38.520a business Sam that's provided educational exchange between America and the and the People's
00:00:45.700Republic of China we don't know anything about his partners in the People's Republic of China
00:00:50.720for his business. But clearly the Chinese Communist Party gave it the green light or he
00:00:56.140wouldn't have been able to return and he would not have been able to have his business. So, Sam,
00:01:00.560what do you think of Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Waltz, who's going to be debating
00:01:05.320J.D. Vance on on October 1st? Sam, what do you think? Yeah, the great walls of China. That's
00:01:12.860what I call him. I think I stole that from somebody else, but I'll run with it. Look, I feel
00:01:19.380like so much of what goes on politically these days boils down to, I'm tempted to say that the0.99
00:01:27.300people who are talking to us are stupid, but I think that's actually not true. I think they think0.99
00:01:34.260we're stupid. So they say things that just defy common sense and logic. You don't have to be a1.00
00:01:43.340super spook or a guy with a background of intel to know that this whole business with walls just
00:01:49.140stinks, right? Here's a guy who has traveled to China over 30 times. And as you suggested,
00:01:57.900it's not just that he's gone there. He has taken groups of American students and been there for
00:02:03.560extended periods of time. And he taught there for a year. And as you noted, we still actually don't
00:02:12.180know really exactly what this arrangement was. I have, in my own digging, established, I think,
00:02:19.540conclusively that at least the initial trips that Walls made to China were paid for by the Chinese.
00:02:27.060And then it's unclear where the money came from these continuing trips. But now what we're told
00:02:32.260is, I mean, the line that's pushed from the Democrat side is he is a defender of the Chinese
00:02:38.240people. He loves the Chinese people, Chinese culture. He opposes communism. And he's been
00:02:44.020going there as like some sort of advocate defending them. Okay, this is ludicrous, right? You can't0.92
00:02:51.220travel to communist China and wander around and preach democracy and liberty and stay. And you0.80
00:03:00.580certainly don't get invited back. I mean, these people track down dissidents that are relatively
00:03:07.520obscure to the far ends of the earth, literally, including on U.S. soil, hunt them down, confront
00:03:14.800them, either kidnap them and drag them back to China, or do things like you're either getting0.80
00:03:20.740on the plane and coming home or grandma is going to pay the price. So they have this worldwide0.73
00:03:26.080dragnet to hunt down everybody that criticizes the Chinese Communist Party. And yet the line
00:03:33.640from the other side is this dude came going, kept going back over and over and over and over
00:03:40.260preaching democracy. That's garbage. But not to mention, there are a whole bunch of people that1.00
00:03:45.940have come out and talked about his behavior on the ground in China. The number of, you know,
00:03:51.880dozens of copies of Mao's little red book he would buy and bring back and how he,
00:03:57.640anybody who started criticizing the Chinese Communist Party on Chinese soil, he would jump
00:04:03.860on them. So to what extent this guy is co-opted, controlled, owned by the Chinese, that remains to0.92
00:04:14.300me a little bit unclear. I'm not necessarily saying that he's out in the dead of night passing
00:04:19.960classified information to them. But clearly he's chosen a side and it's not ours. And now this guy
00:04:28.700is supposed to be, you know, one heartbeat away from the presidency. So it's not a joke.
00:04:35.020This is really serious business. In baseball, they call it a five-tool player. Here's what
00:04:40.960made Faddis so extraordinary. He looks like a movie star. He's a man's man. He always came in
00:04:48.040perfectly ready to go, camera ready. You throw him questions, could be the most complicated.
00:04:54.220He could hit the beats, speak in paragraphs, well-formed, logical. A man of tremendous
00:05:00.040physical courage that had been in some of the tidiest situations of the world. Colonel
00:05:05.340Grant Newsham, one of our regulars, is going to be on Grant knowing him for 40 years and
00:05:10.580work with him. Just an extraordinary individual, plus had the savvy that a couple times was
00:05:18.000in the political process of running for office and was a great, great grassroots leader.
00:05:22.840First time he started coming to the show was a grassroots leader up in Pennsylvania, not
00:10:21.340So I met Sam back in the fall of 2022. I had started a parental rights organization with a group of impassioned parents here in Luzerne County, pushing back against the mask mandates, the business shutdowns.
00:10:38.840Uh, we started traveling across the state, um, teaching parents how to stand up for their
00:10:47.280first amendment rights and how to present themselves at school board meetings and, uh,
00:11:46.800Because his focus was on building a grassroots movement in the Commonwealth0.99
00:11:53.220that could take on the kind of rhino establishment
00:11:55.640that has essentially abandoned working class and middle class people.
00:11:59.280What was it about what you guys were doing that attracted Sam, as busy as he was, to say, hey, come on, I want to get to know your organization better and get other people to know it?
00:13:38.160what was it about um pennsylvania because remember he he very early on and it's also an ira i just
00:13:45.780want to get the audience out that we have you know zelinski today he was on the show so many times
00:13:51.140about ukraine then they had netanyahu in the white house then lindsey graham we had sam on so many
00:13:57.220times with the geopolitics and geostrategy but then to have it on the eve of fauci and fauci
00:14:03.540was a special project for sam faddis i mean he was outraged by the behavior of fauci and kind
00:14:09.960of fauci's dictates to have fauci tomorrow with that diary it's just it's unbelievable the timing
00:14:15.120of this what was it about covid and sam faddis that he wanted to know more about your organization
00:14:21.140because it was one of the what it did to the elections the big steal he kind of was one of
00:14:26.760those guys who were smart enough to kind of tie it all together and understand what it meant and
00:14:30.980what it meant for American liberty. Sam was a big believer in American freedom and American
00:14:35.720liberty, particularly among the working class and middle class, sir. Yeah, I would say this.
00:14:44.080COVID really brought a lot of like-minded people together. And I was just fortunate enough
00:14:50.060to have Sam in my backyard, pretty much. We didn't live very far from one another.
00:14:55.140And so, you know, when when you have grassroots leaders in a regional area, they tend to find out about one another.
00:15:04.780And, you know, somebody asked me yesterday, I was talking about Sam with someone and they said, you know, I never got a chance.
00:15:14.780This person I was speaking to said I never got a chance to meet him, but I watched some of his podcasts and I watched some of his or heard a lot about him and read some of his articles.
00:15:25.400And I said, Sam is a hard person to explain character-wise because he could be the kindest, most sincere person.
00:15:38.300But on the flip side of that coin, he could be the most determined and fierce person you would ever want to meet.
00:15:45.740And he could dismantle a leftist in a sentence, and they would never have a response for him.
00:15:51.920Uh, so I, I think that's what really brings, um, people together the, you know, you're either hiding in your house or fighting for your life during COVID. There was no in between. And he and I were both fighting for our lives and, and our country and our children. And, um, I think that's, that's how we found one another.
00:16:18.200Jamie let me ask you um now we're talking about another midterm coming up this one could determine
00:16:26.600the the direction of MAGA because if they take the house even by a vote it's going to be the
00:16:31.560White House going to be Fort Apache and it's not just about getting Trump it's not just about
00:16:35.140getting Trump's cabinet they want to store destroy Trumpism and MAGA and populist nationalism
00:16:40.500the lessons that we learned and drew the same fadises to say hey I'm going to focus also on
00:16:47.960domestic politics, and I'm going to focus on the grassroots effort. Those lessons that we learned
00:16:53.920and we used in the 22 midterms and the sweeping victory to take the House back in 22, the huge
00:16:59.480victory in 24 between make America healthy again, the surveillance issues, the government just
00:17:07.380becoming totally dictatorial, all those lessons that actually drew very kind of disparate groups
00:17:13.580together, to fight as one and say, hey, look, you know, Naomi Wolf, people that were formerly
00:17:19.100progressives that were now fighting, you know, with us, conservatives, libertarians, obviously
00:17:24.780populist nationalists, you know, Republicans, even a couple of three rhinos. Do you think we0.73
00:17:31.300still have that today? Do you think that can be rekindled in the drive in the last hundred days
00:17:37.320of what you and Sam and others worked on to make sure this grassroots effort moved forward and had
00:17:42.840motive for us or the lessons of COVID and the lessons of that dark time been just kind of buried
00:17:48.680by the mainstream media. And it's one of the reasons I keep saying this, this Fauci thing
00:17:53.320tomorrow is very, very important, particularly now the expose of the Fauci diaries, sir.
00:17:59.480Yeah, I, I believe this, the grassroots movement is still strong. We, we, we had a major loss
00:18:06.400to our grassroots movement with the passing of Sam.
00:18:10.460And obviously his family and his lovely wife Gina have a major loss.
00:25:44.960But if they ever had a chance to clean that place up, that was it.
00:25:49.240And I would say to the lasting discredit of whoever it was that made sure that he didn't get that job, that it has really hurt the country.
00:26:00.060He would have been just the right guy to fill that slot and actually clean it out with a flamethrower and get rid of the charlatans.
00:26:07.620And Sam, if you read, go back and read his writings.
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00:32:09.560Now this is going to take some work by you.
00:34:26.680You know, he probably used up, I should imagine, eight of his nine lives.
00:34:29.900already. It's ironic that the last one was taken by a Chinese bioweapon that was created with the1.00
00:34:37.500connivance of people like Tony Fauci and his crowd. But that's what killed him. That is the0.99
00:34:44.220irony, the people that he spent his life trying to defeat, well, Americans actually helped them
00:34:50.200get rid of him. But yeah, and the courage, when you think about it, it really requires a mental
00:34:56.980toughness that actually gets the body to move. You've really got no physical courage without the
00:35:02.340mental strength behind it. And he had that. The story about his experience with the Kurds in
00:35:08.480northern Iraq for nine months before the U.S. invasion tells you everything about him. And it
00:35:15.980also tells you a lot about the CIA as well. It's a fascinating story in its own right with all sorts
00:35:21.820of scoundrels showing up. I would suggest tracking that book down, and you will enjoy
00:35:27.200reading it. But in all of this, there's also a sense of humor. He had been there for nine months
00:35:32.760with his teams, and they had near misses, of course. And when the invasion was about to start,
00:35:41.780the US Army was planning a massive airdrop into the area to take the place. Well, Sam's crowd had
00:35:49.740already taken it. And he had to be talked out of not sitting on the drop zone in a beach chair,
00:35:57.480probably wearing an aloha shirt, when the army dropped on it. And it's a hilarious story.
00:36:03.480Another good one I just got to mention is one of the Turkish intelligence officer who'd been with
00:36:09.280in their place had done something he shouldn't have done. And Sam said, look, if I had done that
00:36:15.300to you in your place, you'd have shot me. And one of the Kurdish maids at their camp was listening1.00
00:36:21.380through the door, and she heard it as Sam telling the Turks that if they caused any trouble, he was0.91
00:36:26.340going to kill them. And from that point on, the Kurds really thought Sam was the best thing ever0.80
00:36:32.240to come along. But so track that book down. It deserves to be a classic. But he had just that
00:36:41.520magic, and you only come across it once in a very great while. There's a lot of people who are good
00:36:46.640and do a lot of good work. But he combined it all. And I say he had that sort of special sort of
00:36:53.380trait that you knew something good was going to happen. And as I mentioned earlier, you can't
00:37:01.040state this enough. It makes charlatans uncomfortable when he was around, sort of like Abraham Lincoln
00:37:07.220made Harry Flashman uncomfortable. But he was something that it only comes across once,
00:37:12.820and he knew what leadership was. His dad was a naval officer, and Sam internalized a lot of
00:37:20.180the lessons from that, and he never forgot about it as well. And his efforts to go after
00:37:26.580electoral integrity, the corruption in parts of our system, in Pennsylvania state government,
00:37:34.340You know, those are things that he didn't have to do, and he took it on after having done so much.
00:37:40.560And that was, you know, what he spent a lot of the last years doing.
00:37:44.640And once again, he must have made a lot of people uncomfortable about that.
00:37:48.300And I remember him the last couple of years talking about moving to sort of the Greek coast down with Gina and just hanging out there for a good long while and doing the Zorba the Greek sort of dancing, etc.
00:38:03.200And I always hoped he wouldn't quite do it because we needed him too much.
00:38:08.320But I think that it would have been nice if at some point he could have got down there and let other people do so much of the hard work.
00:38:17.880If we can put up that book about the Kurds, it's really he was kind of Lawrence of Arabia, at least at that time with the Kurds in northern Iraq.
00:43:01.660And he invariably found a way to, you know, spin something that would entertain you.
00:43:07.940And his war stories, I think you remember Debbie Georgiatis had a marvelous summit down in Texas back in February, I think it was.
00:43:19.180And Sam and I think Grant and Peter McElvena and Karen Sigamund and I were all sitting around a table for hours listening to Sam's war stories.
00:43:31.940And it was it was such a privilege to really be able to vicariously at least experience some of some of what he went through and his daring do.
00:43:42.860And I'll just leave it with this. One of the things that I found, and Tim Fennell said this on the show the other day, that Sam had a profoundly insightful understanding of the human condition.
00:43:57.920And I think that was in part because, you know, in the circumstances in which he dealt with a lot of people, you were down to, you know, live or die.
00:44:10.780And a mistaken move, a misunderstanding, a false expectation would get you killed.
00:44:19.400And Sam, infrequently, but on occasion, would talk about the tradecraft when he would be asked about some of the people that we're dealing with at this very moment around the world, notably in the Middle East, where, of course, he spent much of his time.
00:44:36.980And it was always a little jarring, but it was very impactful.
00:44:42.620He would talk about how you had to deal with people who made no secret of their desire and their intention to kill you if they got a chance.
00:44:58.500And, you know, how he worked his way through those kinds of moments.
00:45:02.020And that was the killer instinct he brought.
00:45:04.840Yeah, that's the killer instinct he brought to our movement.0.95
00:45:07.020both at the macro level with it with the committee on the present danger china and other big picture
00:45:12.520things he worked on all the way to working in the nuts and bolts in the trenches and the
00:45:17.400grassroots of pennsylvania and this is what sam would do both you don't get a lot of people going
00:45:23.520to do that trust me i know i'm not going to get a lot of people that can pull together the big
00:45:28.080picture but also have no qualm about rolling their sleeves up brian kennedy uh you were one
00:45:34.140the co-founders of the Committee on Present Danger China with Frank. You know about the
00:45:39.700great work Sam Faddis did and his great contributions to the country. Your thoughts, sir?
00:45:44.740Well, thanks, Steve. And I echo everything that Frank and Grant and others have said about
00:45:50.060Sam. He was, as you say, straight out of central casting, as President Trump would say. And I think
00:45:57.800he was a great admirer of President Trump. And he wanted very much to be supportive of what the
00:46:03.640president's agenda was i first knew uh sam from his books and you were mentioning uh beyond repair
00:46:11.680which i have a copy of here the decline and fall of the cia and i thought it was a remarkable book
00:46:19.300back then and i still do i opened it again the other day and it was it was really about and is
00:46:25.980really about how the CIA is a very dangerous organization, dangerous not to have one,
00:46:33.560and dangerous to have one that had become as bureaucratized and politicized as the current
00:46:39.720CIA. And he really believed in men and women who worked for the CIA, but he wanted to effectively
00:46:48.080eliminate it as we currently know it, and to recreate a new, what he called the new OSS.
00:46:55.980and to have it be a much smaller organization, much more nimble, much more effective
00:47:02.120and fully operational to defend the country.
00:47:06.040Because he believed, as he says throughout the book, that the goal of the CIA was to make sure
00:47:12.300that Americans could go to sleep at night knowing that there were men and women in the CIA
00:47:17.440making sure that the monsters around the world were not capable of taking away our freedom.
00:47:22.960That's how he wrote. That's how he spoke. I think his writing is among the most brilliant
00:47:30.220you're going to find from any national security practitioner. And even though he's gone,
00:47:36.640he lives on in his writings, and especially those books we've mentioned today. He wrote a great book
00:47:42.560called Willful Neglect about homeland security here in the United States. And those books really
00:47:51.400do form a very coherent national security policy and domestic policy that americans should be
00:47:58.840finding um useful today and so again thank you thank you for doing this steve no no no i mean
00:48:06.280look we've even got at least another hour because i gotta get more people on the grassroots
00:48:10.760we've got so many clips we went back i mean sam's been calling the show for six years
00:48:15.160and on a range of topics i mean i want to make sure the funeral right now and magazine which
00:48:21.720by the way frank i mean um sam had so many brilliant articles in that we were having
00:48:26.900one about in a range of topics and magazine has got up a really incredible succinct uh obituary
00:48:35.620uh that lays out kind of uh everything they had done about the family as his father's a naval
00:48:40.840officer i want to make sure you go to ann magazine and of course you've got all his writings the
00:48:45.900three books are fantastic i think it's decline and fall of the cia uh the whole thing with the
00:48:52.100kurds in northern iraq that kind of first person account it's like a james bond adventure of what
00:48:57.280happened in the early days of the um of the iraq war where sam was an active participant and you
00:49:03.920see the bravery and courage and then he wrote the book about national security which was like you
00:49:09.000said brilliantly written because he's that guy he's like a five tools player in baseball i want
00:49:14.040okay in lieu of flower so the funeral has been announced in the obituary is going to be 15
00:49:19.580august and we're going to actually work and hopefully have some specials around that
00:49:24.90015 august in lieu of flowers the family is asking in his honor that you send money to camp freedom
00:49:32.600in Carbondale, Pennsylvania, and that is CampFreedomPA.org.
00:49:39.860We'll get all this up in the war room so you can see it.
00:49:42.060But in lieu of flowers, send it to there or to the American Chestnut Foundation
00:49:45.840working to restore the American chestnut tree.
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