Bannon's War Room - July 28, 2026


Episode 5550 cont. Memorial Special: Honoring The Life Legacy And Service Of Sam Fadis


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00:00:00.000 Tim Walts has been to the People's Republic of China over 30 times, beginning first in September 1989, just after Tiananmen, when the People's Republic of China was very much a closed society.
00:00:23.080 and but he was there and came back many times got married on the anniversary of the Tiananmen
00:00:30.640 Square massacre when the Chinese Communist Party crushed a pro-democracy movement and he started
00:00:38.520 a business Sam that's provided educational exchange between America and the and the People's
00:00:45.700 Republic of China we don't know anything about his partners in the People's Republic of China
00:00:50.720 for his business. But clearly the Chinese Communist Party gave it the green light or he
00:00:56.140 wouldn't have been able to return and he would not have been able to have his business. So, Sam,
00:01:00.560 what do you think of Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Waltz, who's going to be debating
00:01:05.320 J.D. Vance on on October 1st? Sam, what do you think? Yeah, the great walls of China. That's
00:01:12.860 what I call him. I think I stole that from somebody else, but I'll run with it. Look, I feel
00:01:19.380 like so much of what goes on politically these days boils down to, I'm tempted to say that the 0.99
00:01:27.300 people who are talking to us are stupid, but I think that's actually not true. I think they think 0.99
00:01:34.260 we're stupid. So they say things that just defy common sense and logic. You don't have to be a 1.00
00:01:43.340 super spook or a guy with a background of intel to know that this whole business with walls just
00:01:49.140 stinks, right? Here's a guy who has traveled to China over 30 times. And as you suggested,
00:01:57.900 it's not just that he's gone there. He has taken groups of American students and been there for
00:02:03.560 extended periods of time. And he taught there for a year. And as you noted, we still actually don't
00:02:12.180 know really exactly what this arrangement was. I have, in my own digging, established, I think,
00:02:19.540 conclusively that at least the initial trips that Walls made to China were paid for by the Chinese.
00:02:27.060 And then it's unclear where the money came from these continuing trips. But now what we're told
00:02:32.260 is, I mean, the line that's pushed from the Democrat side is he is a defender of the Chinese
00:02:38.240 people. He loves the Chinese people, Chinese culture. He opposes communism. And he's been
00:02:44.020 going there as like some sort of advocate defending them. Okay, this is ludicrous, right? You can't 0.92
00:02:51.220 travel to communist China and wander around and preach democracy and liberty and stay. And you 0.80
00:03:00.580 certainly don't get invited back. I mean, these people track down dissidents that are relatively
00:03:07.520 obscure to the far ends of the earth, literally, including on U.S. soil, hunt them down, confront
00:03:14.800 them, either kidnap them and drag them back to China, or do things like you're either getting 0.80
00:03:20.740 on the plane and coming home or grandma is going to pay the price. So they have this worldwide 0.73
00:03:26.080 dragnet to hunt down everybody that criticizes the Chinese Communist Party. And yet the line
00:03:33.640 from the other side is this dude came going, kept going back over and over and over and over
00:03:40.260 preaching democracy. That's garbage. But not to mention, there are a whole bunch of people that 1.00
00:03:45.940 have come out and talked about his behavior on the ground in China. The number of, you know,
00:03:51.880 dozens of copies of Mao's little red book he would buy and bring back and how he,
00:03:57.640 anybody who started criticizing the Chinese Communist Party on Chinese soil, he would jump
00:04:03.860 on them. So to what extent this guy is co-opted, controlled, owned by the Chinese, that remains to 0.92
00:04:14.300 me a little bit unclear. I'm not necessarily saying that he's out in the dead of night passing
00:04:19.960 classified information to them. But clearly he's chosen a side and it's not ours. And now this guy
00:04:28.700 is supposed to be, you know, one heartbeat away from the presidency. So it's not a joke.
00:04:35.020 This is really serious business. In baseball, they call it a five-tool player. Here's what
00:04:40.960 made Faddis so extraordinary. He looks like a movie star. He's a man's man. He always came in
00:04:48.040 perfectly ready to go, camera ready. You throw him questions, could be the most complicated.
00:04:54.220 He could hit the beats, speak in paragraphs, well-formed, logical. A man of tremendous
00:05:00.040 physical courage that had been in some of the tidiest situations of the world. Colonel
00:05:05.340 Grant Newsham, one of our regulars, is going to be on Grant knowing him for 40 years and
00:05:10.580 work with him. Just an extraordinary individual, plus had the savvy that a couple times was
00:05:18.000 in the political process of running for office and was a great, great grassroots leader.
00:05:22.840 First time he started coming to the show was a grassroots leader up in Pennsylvania, not
00:05:25.920 as a former CIA.
00:05:27.320 Dr. Thayer, you knew him well.
00:05:28.940 You spent a lot of time with him on the show.
00:05:30.960 Your thoughts, sir?
00:05:33.180 Steve, he was the best of America, simply put, in every respect.
00:05:38.520 You could see Sam standing at Bunker Hill or charging up San Juan Hill or fighting at
00:05:45.280 Bastogne, or fighting the KGB on the streets of Moscow. He was an exceptional individual.
00:05:55.440 Natalie, of course, Jack, and you have touched on his many virtues and his history as an armor
00:06:02.120 officer, of course, and the CIA then as a great commentator, as a brilliant writer,
00:06:09.600 and simply an incredible activist at the local level, at the state level, in Pennsylvania at
00:06:17.720 the federal level. I would only add that Sam was a great American because, to my mind,
00:06:24.960 he loved Americans. He understood them. He worked with them. He told the stories of people in
00:06:34.120 northeastern Pennsylvania where he lived who were struggling and he wanted to help them
00:06:40.020 as Americans want to do want to help other Americans and he labored to do that effectively
00:06:49.080 and so when we reflect on him we understand the humanity of the man the brilliance of it of the
00:06:57.380 of course, his patriotism, his stoicism, really his brilliance. But he really, truly was a great
00:07:08.500 American in the sense that the patriots identified. We're talking a lot about, of course, due to Eric
00:07:15.940 Metaxas' great book on revolution, the spirit of 1776. Sam embodied that spirit. As no other
00:07:25.440 individual I've known embodies it. He worked to facilitate the movement of making America great
00:07:32.480 again at every level. And he did great things and was going to continue to do great things
00:07:42.980 as well. So it's a tremendous loss for our movement. It's a tremendous loss for America,
00:07:48.960 for his family of course and of course we say uh god rest his soul and rest in peace sam
00:07:55.500 uh at this point uh a great friend had great advice always uh natalie stressed and jack did
00:08:04.800 of course and you have he was a great guest always well prepared ready to go but um above all i see
00:08:12.480 him as a great american who embodied the spirit of 1776 and goodness knows uh we've got few we need
00:08:21.280 individuals like that and particularly this fight we've got with coming i mean he knew marxist
00:08:26.240 jihadist as well as anybody a man of tremendous physical courage that's what's incredible
00:08:30.880 i know you got to bounce you got by the way you finally i can't believe bradley thayer
00:08:35.600 finally got the background look at that book background i could give you a hug right now
00:08:40.000 thayer for years this is another one for years i've tried to work on it's great content we got
00:08:44.680 to pass as it up and now you've got the cover of the book right in the background sam faddis would
00:08:49.960 be very proud of you dr thayer the book is amazing and you and you got that cover i'm so pleased he
00:08:57.920 read the book and endorsed it uh he he he was a fan of the book uh but steve it was your dulcet
00:09:03.580 tones that really uh moved me in that right direction no no sam sam got it because sam
00:09:10.840 you know being a man's man he would sit there he'd always be ready to go with the jacket or
00:09:15.940 the turtleneck and the beard the whole you know the complete package and he'd have that like
00:09:20.280 library most of the time he was doing the shot if he wasn't on the road from the library it just
00:09:24.800 looks so amazing i kept telling people hey if you want to look how to present yourself
00:09:28.500 look at faddis faddis brings every tool and the and the tool and this is why so so he's so powerful
00:09:36.160 and this is why the message gets across i'd love the cover real quickly when's the book coming out
00:09:40.300 where do people go uh order it folks can get it amazon or barnes and noble the official release
00:09:46.140 date is august 18th steve and thank you so much for writing the forward and and to sam for endorsing
00:09:52.340 Sam endorsed it.
00:09:53.720 Sam would even more endorse the fact that it doesn't look like a hostage video anymore.
00:09:58.740 We finally got a background for you.
00:10:00.160 Sam was a master at that.
00:10:01.300 Thank you, sir.
00:10:02.000 Thank you, Dr. Thayer.
00:10:04.100 Love it.
00:10:05.100 Love it.
00:10:06.680 Jamie Walsh, representative of the 117th District of Luzerne.
00:10:11.340 Sir, you knew Sam Fettis very well in an aspect that a lot of the audience didn't get to see him in,
00:10:16.320 in the active kind of grind of politics in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
00:10:20.460 Tell us about him.
00:10:21.340 So I met Sam back in the fall of 2022. I had started a parental rights organization with a group of impassioned parents here in Luzerne County, pushing back against the mask mandates, the business shutdowns.
00:10:38.840 Uh, we started traveling across the state, um, teaching parents how to stand up for their
00:10:47.280 first amendment rights and how to present themselves at school board meetings and, uh,
00:10:52.800 basically any public meeting.
00:10:54.800 And one day I got a phone call from Sam Fadison and I had never met him before.
00:11:00.680 And he asked me if I would come up and talk about our organization and what we were doing
00:11:06.320 in Luzerne County to teach parents how to stand up for themselves and for their children.
00:11:12.540 And he asked me to speak at this church up in Clark Summit in the middle of winter.
00:11:18.060 It's about an hour, maybe an hour and 10 minutes from my house.
00:11:22.020 And I said, I'd be honored to do that.
00:11:24.680 And I went up and spoke in front of a group of maybe 75 to 80 people that were at the
00:11:30.820 church that day.
00:11:31.660 and we became fast friends from that point moving forward.
00:11:39.380 Talk to me about with everything else he had going on,
00:11:42.280 what was it about your organization?
00:11:44.720 What did he see?
00:11:45.540 Why did he want you to come up there?
00:11:46.800 Because his focus was on building a grassroots movement in the Commonwealth 0.99
00:11:53.220 that could take on the kind of rhino establishment
00:11:55.640 that has essentially abandoned working class and middle class people.
00:11:59.280 What was it about what you guys were doing that attracted Sam, as busy as he was, to say, hey, come on, I want to get to know your organization better and get other people to know it?
00:12:08.740 What was it?
00:12:10.400 Well, Sam, that was really his mission here in the grassroots movement.
00:12:16.140 There were many grassroots organizations all across Pennsylvania.
00:12:21.620 and Sam started Unite PA to unite them all together so we're all having the same type of
00:12:29.400 message. We were really fully focused on school boards. I was a small business owner at the time.
00:12:38.020 I had absolutely no ambition to run for any type of politics and this was not on my bingo card,
00:12:47.960 Let's put it that way. In my life, I was happy. I walked out my back door to work every day.
00:12:54.140 I saw my kids every night. And COVID changed me. It started a fire in me that brought me and Sam
00:13:04.120 together. And I think COVID did that to a lot of patriots, eventually America First people.
00:13:11.700 And so that's why Sam heard about our organization and the impact that we were having in Luzerne County, and he wanted to get to know us.
00:13:22.160 And it wasn't just me.
00:13:24.680 We had some great parents from all over Luzerne County that were a part of this organization that really built it from the ground up.
00:13:36.820 What did Sam see?
00:13:38.160 what was it about um pennsylvania because remember he he very early on and it's also an ira i just
00:13:45.780 want to get the audience out that we have you know zelinski today he was on the show so many times
00:13:51.140 about ukraine then they had netanyahu in the white house then lindsey graham we had sam on so many
00:13:57.220 times with the geopolitics and geostrategy but then to have it on the eve of fauci and fauci
00:14:03.540 was a special project for sam faddis i mean he was outraged by the behavior of fauci and kind
00:14:09.960 of fauci's dictates to have fauci tomorrow with that diary it's just it's unbelievable the timing
00:14:15.120 of this what was it about covid and sam faddis that he wanted to know more about your organization
00:14:21.140 because it was one of the what it did to the elections the big steal he kind of was one of
00:14:26.760 those guys who were smart enough to kind of tie it all together and understand what it meant and
00:14:30.980 what it meant for American liberty. Sam was a big believer in American freedom and American
00:14:35.720 liberty, particularly among the working class and middle class, sir. Yeah, I would say this.
00:14:44.080 COVID really brought a lot of like-minded people together. And I was just fortunate enough
00:14:50.060 to have Sam in my backyard, pretty much. We didn't live very far from one another.
00:14:55.140 And so, you know, when when you have grassroots leaders in a regional area, they tend to find out about one another.
00:15:04.780 And, you know, somebody asked me yesterday, I was talking about Sam with someone and they said, you know, I never got a chance.
00:15:14.780 This person I was speaking to said I never got a chance to meet him, but I watched some of his podcasts and I watched some of his or heard a lot about him and read some of his articles.
00:15:25.400 And I said, Sam is a hard person to explain character-wise because he could be the kindest, most sincere person.
00:15:38.300 But on the flip side of that coin, he could be the most determined and fierce person you would ever want to meet.
00:15:45.740 And he could dismantle a leftist in a sentence, and they would never have a response for him.
00:15:51.920 Uh, so I, I think that's what really brings, um, people together the, you know, you're either hiding in your house or fighting for your life during COVID. There was no in between. And he and I were both fighting for our lives and, and our country and our children. And, um, I think that's, that's how we found one another.
00:16:18.200 Jamie let me ask you um now we're talking about another midterm coming up this one could determine
00:16:26.600 the the direction of MAGA because if they take the house even by a vote it's going to be the
00:16:31.560 White House going to be Fort Apache and it's not just about getting Trump it's not just about
00:16:35.140 getting Trump's cabinet they want to store destroy Trumpism and MAGA and populist nationalism
00:16:40.500 the lessons that we learned and drew the same fadises to say hey I'm going to focus also on
00:16:47.960 domestic politics, and I'm going to focus on the grassroots effort. Those lessons that we learned
00:16:53.920 and we used in the 22 midterms and the sweeping victory to take the House back in 22, the huge
00:16:59.480 victory in 24 between make America healthy again, the surveillance issues, the government just
00:17:07.380 becoming totally dictatorial, all those lessons that actually drew very kind of disparate groups
00:17:13.580 together, to fight as one and say, hey, look, you know, Naomi Wolf, people that were formerly
00:17:19.100 progressives that were now fighting, you know, with us, conservatives, libertarians, obviously
00:17:24.780 populist nationalists, you know, Republicans, even a couple of three rhinos. Do you think we 0.73
00:17:31.300 still have that today? Do you think that can be rekindled in the drive in the last hundred days
00:17:37.320 of what you and Sam and others worked on to make sure this grassroots effort moved forward and had
00:17:42.840 motive for us or the lessons of COVID and the lessons of that dark time been just kind of buried
00:17:48.680 by the mainstream media. And it's one of the reasons I keep saying this, this Fauci thing
00:17:53.320 tomorrow is very, very important, particularly now the expose of the Fauci diaries, sir.
00:17:59.480 Yeah, I, I believe this, the grassroots movement is still strong. We, we, we had a major loss
00:18:06.400 to our grassroots movement with the passing of Sam.
00:18:10.460 And obviously his family and his lovely wife Gina have a major loss.
00:18:17.760 And, you know, in my estimation,
00:18:21.420 God must need some help in heaven with another warrior up there.
00:18:24.760 And we are going to continue Sam's work down here.
00:18:28.900 We are not going to back down.
00:18:31.360 We're growing.
00:18:32.780 Our grassroots movement in Luzerne County is growing.
00:18:36.400 exponentially right now, because we have some local things going on. But I can tell you across
00:18:43.200 the Commonwealth, I have a lot of faith and a lot of hope for Pennsylvania. I see what's going on
00:18:50.980 in Harrisburg. I see the direction that it's headed with the Democrats that are in charge.
00:18:56.660 You know, they have, you know, they have the governorship and they have the House by one
00:19:01.400 vote in the House. But I see the spirit in our Republican Party in Harrisburg. I do see it.
00:19:13.680 I know no one down there has forgot about COVID. And I feel like the grassroots movement,
00:19:20.100 you know, I never planned to run for office. Sam was at the meeting the day that I decided I was
00:19:28.200 going to run it was uh he and i and there was five other people in the room and um i i said to sam i
00:19:36.300 said i i said my daughter's young and my my son is young at the time like my son was still in high
00:19:42.660 school my daughter was was very young and um he said jamie if not you then who who do we have here
00:19:50.400 that can do what you're doing and get momentum behind them to run a race against a rhino republican
00:19:57.580 And I ended up, I wouldn't say he talked me into it, but he was very influential in getting me to run. 0.63
00:20:09.160 And after my race, I ended up beating a rhino incumbent by four votes for the state house race. 0.96
00:20:17.980 Incredible. 0.96
00:20:19.200 Jamie, where do people go to find out more about the group, find out more about you, your social media?
00:20:24.100 uh citizens advisory of pennsylvania on facebook and twitter actually it's citizens advisory of pa
00:20:34.320 and you can find me at walsh for pa on facebook walsh for pa on facebook okay we'll make sure
00:20:43.460 so it was four votes right i take it they had a recount no recount um there was actually 30
00:20:51.180 there was actually 31 provisional ballots. 17 of them were Republican. And Steve, I was leading by
00:20:58.720 a landslide on election night. I was up by eight votes. But after five months of counting and court
00:21:06.800 cases, I ended up prevailing with a four-vote win. So the establishment recruited someone to
00:21:14.960 run against me this primary. And I had many calls to Sam during that time asking him, you know,
00:21:22.520 what should I do here? What should I do there? I said, you know, they're after me. They're coming
00:21:27.240 hard at me. They're spending so much money against me. And he said, just keep doing what you're
00:21:32.420 doing. You're doing the right things. And we ended up beating the establishment. We got 72% of the
00:21:40.380 vote so god what a great what a great lesson unbelievable jamie honored to have you on here
00:21:47.220 sir that's why we keep fighting amen incredible thank you sir appreciate you look forward to
00:21:55.100 having you back wow win by four lead by eight on election day cut it in half by four you still win
00:22:04.540 then you come back a couple years later and the rhinos are trying to take you out you win with 0.79
00:22:08.900 somebody signed the vote. That's an American story. That's what Sam Faddis meant. Let me get,
00:22:15.380 I got Colonel Grant Newsham. Colonel, you knew, in fact, you were going to do a panel tonight
00:22:20.340 with Sam. Talk to me, you knew him for 40 years. Talk to me about Sam Faddis.
00:22:28.560 Following up on Brad Thayer's comment, if Sam had been at the Alamo, the Texans probably would
00:22:33.240 one. He was a guy that made charlatans uncomfortable. I remember him telling me
00:22:41.160 when Hunter Biden's laptop came out that, besides it being sickening, that it was
00:22:47.460 the real thing. And he was right. And you remember that there were 51 sort of intelligence luminaries
00:22:56.300 who signed this letter or this statement saying that this was Russian disinformation
00:23:00.800 to make sure that President Trump didn't win the election.
00:23:05.880 Those 51 people were very uncomfortable around a guy like Sam.
00:23:11.360 As I said, he made the charlatans uncomfortable.
00:23:14.920 Someone you would always want in a tight spot.
00:23:18.500 And he also, he actually came from southwest Pennsylvania.
00:23:22.580 It's where he grew up, a place called Green County, which is next to Fayette County,
00:23:27.380 which is my mother's home turf.
00:23:29.400 And this place just bore the brunt of deindustrialization.
00:23:34.440 The mines closed, the mills closed, and those people were all left behind.
00:23:38.860 Nobody gave two hoots.
00:23:40.640 And Sam knew where he came from, and he knew those people very well.
00:23:44.340 And I think that shaped a lot of his ideas, of course.
00:23:47.680 And he was fighting for them, quite literally.
00:23:50.360 But he was sort of a scholar, a warrior.
00:23:55.740 He reminds me a bit of, there's a fellow named Patrick Lee Farmore, who was an Englishman.
00:24:01.380 He was the guy who captured and kidnapped a German general on Crete and then spirited him off to England.
00:24:07.740 And he was like, he was like an English version of Sam, where Sam was an American version of him.
00:24:14.180 And he was, I would say, tough.
00:24:17.380 He knew how to write.
00:24:18.380 He could talk.
00:24:20.240 He was a lawyer.
00:24:21.360 Not many people knew that.
00:24:22.620 went to Johns Hopkins. So he combined all of these things and he had a good sense of humor
00:24:29.000 in addition to being a tough customer. So they don't come along like him. He's
00:24:36.540 going to leave a void that is not easily filled. He was right on the front lines, taking on China,
00:24:44.920 and taking on the Iranian regime as well, really taking on bad people.
00:24:52.680 And he did it genuinely out of patriotism, love of country, love of fellow Americans.
00:24:59.860 There's people they don't come across.
00:25:02.280 They don't come along very often.
00:25:04.240 He was just something really different in CIA terms.
00:25:09.540 He was a guy that wouldn't be caught dead at headquarters if he could help it,
00:25:13.100 where sort of backstabbing is practically a moral imperative, and just scheming to get ahead.
00:25:21.060 No interest in actually recruiting people to give you information, intelligence the country needs.
00:25:27.020 But Sam was a field officer if there ever was one.
00:25:30.040 And that is one of the reasons why he made those people so uncomfortable.
00:25:33.840 You know, I would suggest there was even talk that he was going to be the new director of operations in the new Trump administration.
00:25:43.100 That didn't come to pass.
00:25:44.960 But if they ever had a chance to clean that place up, that was it.
00:25:49.240 And I would say to the lasting discredit of whoever it was that made sure that he didn't get that job, that it has really hurt the country.
00:26:00.060 He would have been just the right guy to fill that slot and actually clean it out with a flamethrower and get rid of the charlatans.
00:26:07.620 And Sam, if you read, go back and read his writings.
00:26:10.080 and it's
00:26:11.620 he calls spades spades
00:26:14.000 and I would not have wanted to be on the
00:26:16.220 receiving end
00:26:16.980 sort of of his commentary
00:26:19.140 he was really as good as it comes
00:26:22.140 you know so he will be
00:26:24.120 just sorely missed
00:26:25.440 in all of this
00:26:26.860 Colonel just hang on we're going to take a short commercial break
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00:27:01.880 We're going to talk about Sam Faddis and courage when we return. Short commercial break,
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00:32:55.440 Colonel Newsham, one of the things about Sam, you know,
00:32:58.320 I say it was from Central Casting, but it's when you got to know him
00:33:03.000 and read the books and spent some time with him,
00:33:06.300 the physical courage of the guy.
00:33:07.920 A lot of people talk about it.
00:33:09.260 I mean, and you see these people that all want to be, and I see them all the time.
00:33:12.400 They all want to be James Bond.
00:33:13.880 They all want to do this.
00:33:15.420 Sam Faddis did that. 0.96
00:33:16.940 His time with the Kurds, his time in Tehran with the Persians.
00:33:21.960 This guy went to some of the other places of South Asia.
00:33:25.700 He went to some of the darkest corners of the world in defense of his country and his country's ideals.
00:33:32.880 And he dealt with some of the baddest hombres out there.
00:33:36.080 And he just had what we say in the war room all the time with, I think, from Shaw and from Churchill.
00:33:43.300 Courage is the most important of all the virtues because it's upon courage that all the other virtues rest.
00:33:49.900 And this is why Sam had this, you can't describe it, this leadership quality.
00:33:55.740 Like they are said, if he was at the Alamo, the Texans might have won.
00:34:00.540 He had that kind of man's man, just gravitas and, you know, seriousness that you knew.
00:34:06.780 If you were in a tight spot, it's a guy like Sam Faddis that you want with you.
00:34:11.540 Your thoughts, sir?
00:34:13.760 Definitely.
00:34:14.820 You know, if Sam was around somewhere, good things were going to happen.
00:34:19.160 You'd almost instinctively sort of breathe a sigh of relief and almost leave it up to him.
00:34:25.080 And you mentioned the courage.
00:34:26.680 You know, he probably used up, I should imagine, eight of his nine lives.
00:34:29.900 already. It's ironic that the last one was taken by a Chinese bioweapon that was created with the 1.00
00:34:37.500 connivance of people like Tony Fauci and his crowd. But that's what killed him. That is the 0.99
00:34:44.220 irony, the people that he spent his life trying to defeat, well, Americans actually helped them
00:34:50.200 get rid of him. But yeah, and the courage, when you think about it, it really requires a mental
00:34:56.980 toughness that actually gets the body to move. You've really got no physical courage without the
00:35:02.340 mental strength behind it. And he had that. The story about his experience with the Kurds in
00:35:08.480 northern Iraq for nine months before the U.S. invasion tells you everything about him. And it
00:35:15.980 also tells you a lot about the CIA as well. It's a fascinating story in its own right with all sorts
00:35:21.820 of scoundrels showing up. I would suggest tracking that book down, and you will enjoy
00:35:27.200 reading it. But in all of this, there's also a sense of humor. He had been there for nine months
00:35:32.760 with his teams, and they had near misses, of course. And when the invasion was about to start,
00:35:41.780 the US Army was planning a massive airdrop into the area to take the place. Well, Sam's crowd had
00:35:49.740 already taken it. And he had to be talked out of not sitting on the drop zone in a beach chair,
00:35:57.480 probably wearing an aloha shirt, when the army dropped on it. And it's a hilarious story.
00:36:03.480 Another good one I just got to mention is one of the Turkish intelligence officer who'd been with
00:36:09.280 in their place had done something he shouldn't have done. And Sam said, look, if I had done that
00:36:15.300 to you in your place, you'd have shot me. And one of the Kurdish maids at their camp was listening 1.00
00:36:21.380 through the door, and she heard it as Sam telling the Turks that if they caused any trouble, he was 0.91
00:36:26.340 going to kill them. And from that point on, the Kurds really thought Sam was the best thing ever 0.80
00:36:32.240 to come along. But so track that book down. It deserves to be a classic. But he had just that
00:36:41.520 magic, and you only come across it once in a very great while. There's a lot of people who are good
00:36:46.640 and do a lot of good work. But he combined it all. And I say he had that sort of special sort of
00:36:53.380 trait that you knew something good was going to happen. And as I mentioned earlier, you can't
00:37:01.040 state this enough. It makes charlatans uncomfortable when he was around, sort of like Abraham Lincoln
00:37:07.220 made Harry Flashman uncomfortable. But he was something that it only comes across once,
00:37:12.820 and he knew what leadership was. His dad was a naval officer, and Sam internalized a lot of
00:37:20.180 the lessons from that, and he never forgot about it as well. And his efforts to go after
00:37:26.580 electoral integrity, the corruption in parts of our system, in Pennsylvania state government,
00:37:34.340 You know, those are things that he didn't have to do, and he took it on after having done so much.
00:37:40.560 And that was, you know, what he spent a lot of the last years doing.
00:37:44.640 And once again, he must have made a lot of people uncomfortable about that.
00:37:48.300 And I remember him the last couple of years talking about moving to sort of the Greek coast down with Gina and just hanging out there for a good long while and doing the Zorba the Greek sort of dancing, etc.
00:38:03.200 And I always hoped he wouldn't quite do it because we needed him too much.
00:38:08.320 But I think that it would have been nice if at some point he could have got down there and let other people do so much of the hard work.
00:38:17.880 If we can put up that book about the Kurds, it's really he was kind of Lawrence of Arabia, at least at that time with the Kurds in northern Iraq.
00:38:24.420 And it's amazing.
00:38:25.700 Also wrote the book on the decline and fall of the CIA.
00:38:28.540 Hang on one second.
00:38:29.600 There's the book right there.
00:38:30.760 incredible adventure story from a great patron, a great American, and it reads like a novel
00:38:36.720 with all the amazing anecdotes of Sam Faddis. Frank Gaffney, the great fight, the main thing,
00:38:45.680 the great fight against the Chinese Communist Party. Sam was with us shoulder to shoulder
00:38:50.420 on the Committee for the Present Danger, China, all of it, sir, your thoughts.
00:38:55.380 well first of all steve thanks so much for dedicating this time to him um there there's
00:39:02.040 a hole in our line as a result of sam's departure um untimely departure uh and i just want to pick
00:39:09.980 up on one or two things that colonel newsham just said um for one thing i keep thinking
00:39:18.380 every time that grant is talking about something good was going to happen something bad was going
00:39:23.740 to happen to bad guys, I think. That's Grant's idea of a good time, and ours too, of course.
00:39:30.400 Also, noting that Sam perished at the hands of the Chinese Communist Party, effectively,
00:39:38.540 is really important, because he was one of the people who really knew his stuff
00:39:46.680 about biological warfare. In fact, it's not generally known about him, I think. Everybody's
00:39:53.260 focused on his time, you know, undercover and behind enemy lines and so on. Though he might
00:40:00.020 have said he was behind enemy lines at Langley, but in his last duty station before he left the
00:40:04.860 agency, he was responsible for protecting this country against weapons of mass destruction
00:40:11.700 terrorism. And so he contributed to this book, which you may remember, Steve.
00:40:17.600 it was put together by a team Dr. Stephen Hatfield was one of the principal authors
00:40:23.260 entitled the CCP is at war with America and it was a sort of an alternative view an exercise in
00:40:31.280 competitive analysis as the old team B team said this was team B3 by my count and it basically
00:40:38.940 said wait a minute all this stuff about the idea that Fauci was promoting and the rest that we just
00:40:45.360 couldn't figure out where this thing came from. It was rubbish. Of course, it came out of that 0.99
00:40:50.300 biowarfare lab. We couldn't tell for sure whether it was deliberately leaked or not.
00:40:55.780 But once it was out, we know they deliberately sent it here, which is a biological warfare 0.54
00:41:01.060 attack. And Sam completely got that. There's so many things to be said about him. I had the
00:41:09.460 privilege of really becoming, I think, a friend as well as a colleague. And his work on the
00:41:16.920 Committee on the Present Danger China was indispensable. I had him on our program each
00:41:23.080 week, as you did, I think. And inevitably, he would shed light on stuff that the Chinese were
00:41:30.200 doing. And also, by the way, what their old friends were doing in the United States. And
00:41:39.280 he spoke as powerfully in indicting the latter as he did about the former. I mean, everybody's
00:41:46.700 noted that he spoke truth to power. The single most extraordinary example of which I personally
00:41:53.500 believe and experienced firsthand, because I think he first said it on our show, Securing America,
00:42:00.200 And I was talking to him about Joe Biden, the president of the United States.
00:42:06.800 And I'll never forget it.
00:42:08.280 Sam said in the professional lingo of his trade, Joe Biden was, quote, a controlled asset of the Chinese Communist Party, unquote.
00:42:23.660 Now, that guy happened to be a pretty powerful dude.
00:42:27.220 I mean, he wasn't altogether there, as we all know, but the people around him were.
00:42:32.160 And I'm sure they didn't take kindly to that.
00:42:34.800 And not only did Sam say it once, but I got him to say it a lot.
00:42:38.480 And it was so true and it was so important for the country to understand.
00:42:42.820 We were actually in the hands of a guy who was working for the other team and being paid handsomely for it as well.
00:42:52.040 I just also wanted to say one of the things I revered about him was indeed his sense of humor.
00:42:58.040 It was very dry. It was very quick.
00:43:01.660 And he invariably found a way to, you know, spin something that would entertain you.
00:43:07.940 And his war stories, I think you remember Debbie Georgiatis had a marvelous summit down in Texas back in February, I think it was.
00:43:19.180 And Sam and I think Grant and Peter McElvena and Karen Sigamund and I were all sitting around a table for hours listening to Sam's war stories.
00:43:31.940 And it was it was such a privilege to really be able to vicariously at least experience some of some of what he went through and his daring do.
00:43:42.860 And I'll just leave it with this. One of the things that I found, and Tim Fennell said this on the show the other day, that Sam had a profoundly insightful understanding of the human condition.
00:43:57.920 And I think that was in part because, you know, in the circumstances in which he dealt with a lot of people, you were down to, you know, live or die.
00:44:10.780 And a mistaken move, a misunderstanding, a false expectation would get you killed.
00:44:19.400 And Sam, infrequently, but on occasion, would talk about the tradecraft when he would be asked about some of the people that we're dealing with at this very moment around the world, notably in the Middle East, where, of course, he spent much of his time.
00:44:36.980 And it was always a little jarring, but it was very impactful.
00:44:42.620 He would talk about how you had to deal with people who made no secret of their desire and their intention to kill you if they got a chance.
00:44:58.500 And, you know, how he worked his way through those kinds of moments.
00:45:02.020 And that was the killer instinct he brought.
00:45:04.840 Yeah, that's the killer instinct he brought to our movement. 0.95
00:45:07.020 both at the macro level with it with the committee on the present danger china and other big picture
00:45:12.520 things he worked on all the way to working in the nuts and bolts in the trenches and the
00:45:17.400 grassroots of pennsylvania and this is what sam would do both you don't get a lot of people going
00:45:23.520 to do that trust me i know i'm not going to get a lot of people that can pull together the big
00:45:28.080 picture but also have no qualm about rolling their sleeves up brian kennedy uh you were one
00:45:34.140 the co-founders of the Committee on Present Danger China with Frank. You know about the
00:45:39.700 great work Sam Faddis did and his great contributions to the country. Your thoughts, sir?
00:45:44.740 Well, thanks, Steve. And I echo everything that Frank and Grant and others have said about
00:45:50.060 Sam. He was, as you say, straight out of central casting, as President Trump would say. And I think
00:45:57.800 he was a great admirer of President Trump. And he wanted very much to be supportive of what the
00:46:03.640 president's agenda was i first knew uh sam from his books and you were mentioning uh beyond repair
00:46:11.680 which i have a copy of here the decline and fall of the cia and i thought it was a remarkable book
00:46:19.300 back then and i still do i opened it again the other day and it was it was really about and is
00:46:25.980 really about how the CIA is a very dangerous organization, dangerous not to have one,
00:46:33.560 and dangerous to have one that had become as bureaucratized and politicized as the current
00:46:39.720 CIA. And he really believed in men and women who worked for the CIA, but he wanted to effectively
00:46:48.080 eliminate it as we currently know it, and to recreate a new, what he called the new OSS.
00:46:55.980 and to have it be a much smaller organization, much more nimble, much more effective
00:47:02.120 and fully operational to defend the country.
00:47:06.040 Because he believed, as he says throughout the book, that the goal of the CIA was to make sure
00:47:12.300 that Americans could go to sleep at night knowing that there were men and women in the CIA
00:47:17.440 making sure that the monsters around the world were not capable of taking away our freedom.
00:47:22.960 That's how he wrote. That's how he spoke. I think his writing is among the most brilliant
00:47:30.220 you're going to find from any national security practitioner. And even though he's gone,
00:47:36.640 he lives on in his writings, and especially those books we've mentioned today. He wrote a great book
00:47:42.560 called Willful Neglect about homeland security here in the United States. And those books really
00:47:51.400 do form a very coherent national security policy and domestic policy that americans should be
00:47:58.840 finding um useful today and so again thank you thank you for doing this steve no no no i mean
00:48:06.280 look we've even got at least another hour because i gotta get more people on the grassroots
00:48:10.760 we've got so many clips we went back i mean sam's been calling the show for six years
00:48:15.160 and on a range of topics i mean i want to make sure the funeral right now and magazine which
00:48:21.720 by the way frank i mean um sam had so many brilliant articles in that we were having
00:48:26.900 one about in a range of topics and magazine has got up a really incredible succinct uh obituary
00:48:35.620 uh that lays out kind of uh everything they had done about the family as his father's a naval
00:48:40.840 officer i want to make sure you go to ann magazine and of course you've got all his writings the
00:48:45.900 three books are fantastic i think it's decline and fall of the cia uh the whole thing with the
00:48:52.100 kurds in northern iraq that kind of first person account it's like a james bond adventure of what
00:48:57.280 happened in the early days of the um of the iraq war where sam was an active participant and you
00:49:03.920 see the bravery and courage and then he wrote the book about national security which was like you
00:49:09.000 said brilliantly written because he's that guy he's like a five tools player in baseball i want
00:49:14.040 okay in lieu of flower so the funeral has been announced in the obituary is going to be 15
00:49:19.580 august and we're going to actually work and hopefully have some specials around that
00:49:24.900 15 august in lieu of flowers the family is asking in his honor that you send money to camp freedom
00:49:32.600 in Carbondale, Pennsylvania, and that is CampFreedomPA.org.
00:49:39.860 We'll get all this up in the war room so you can see it.
00:49:42.060 But in lieu of flowers, send it to there or to the American Chestnut Foundation
00:49:45.840 working to restore the American chestnut tree.
00:49:49.100 I mean, is that classic Sam Faddis?
00:49:52.540 Hey, I'm working on the chestnut trees.
00:49:54.880 I got Camp Freedom here.
00:49:56.040 I mean, this guy, the range of his interest and the range of where he put his shoulder to the wheel
00:50:02.140 is absolutely amazing the obituary we're going to push out overnight uh 15 august is going to be
00:50:09.100 the uh the funeral of the memorial service uh and we'll have more on that later you've got where to
00:50:14.420 go in lieu of flowers uh brian where do people go to get your content and thank you so much for
00:50:19.960 for joining us tonight where do folks go um the website is presentdangerchina.org
00:50:28.120 That's the work of the Committee on the Present Danger of China.
00:50:30.640 You will find literally dozens and dozens of webinars that featured Sam Faddis on that website.
00:50:38.420 We were very proud to have him.
00:50:39.660 He was always the MVP of all that.
00:50:42.600 And personally, I'm at Brian T. Kennedy on Getter and Brian T. Kennedy 1 on X.
00:50:48.660 Thank you, Steve.
00:50:50.160 Colonel Neusham, we've got about 30 seconds.
00:50:52.520 What's your handle?
00:50:53.260 Where do people go and get your content?
00:50:54.500 at x at newsham grant and center for security policy newsham and all my stuff will come up
00:51:02.300 and the book which you can see in the back uh sam wrote the one of the endorsement the top
00:51:07.880 endorsement uh that's available on amazon as well that book is a uh you read that and you will stay
00:51:14.960 up all night uh quite a shocker about the early days of the war the coming war with china when
00:51:20.960 China attacks. Frank Gaffney, social media, sir, where do you go? Yes, sir. Well, as long as we're
00:51:27.780 flogging books, let me introduce the first of the War Room series, and that is the indictment. Sam
00:51:35.520 Thaddeus' insights were all through it. And as Brian says, he was a great contributor to the
00:51:41.660 webinars from which it was drawn. Frank Gaffney, at Frank Gaffney on X and securingamerica.substack.com
00:51:49.980 or places you can find all about our program, the work we do.
00:51:53.560 And we thank you, Steve, for your leadership in all of these spaces.
00:51:57.300 Thank you.
00:51:57.900 Okay, we're going to have at least another hour of this.
00:51:59.920 I'm going to get everybody the time we're going to do it.
00:52:01.940 We're going to have more voices, the grassroots in Pennsylvania.
00:52:05.300 Why are we doing that?
00:52:06.300 Because Sam Faddis was the best of us, the best of this movement,
00:52:10.200 both as a patriot, a hero, and a grassroots leader.
00:52:14.600 We'll leave you until tomorrow morning at 10 a.m.
00:52:17.280 when you will be back in the Warburg.
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