Bannon's War Room - Episode 5551： The Hearing Of Anthony Fauci

00:00:00.880 Did Dave Moran ever bring documents to your house?

00:00:05.280 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

00:00:12.300 Did you ever receive a text about your work at NIAID to your personal cell phone?

00:00:17.860 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

00:00:25.420 Did any text about your work at NID that went to your personal cell phone ever become part of federal records?

00:00:32.840 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

00:00:40.020 Did you maintain a personal email account while serving as director?

00:00:44.300 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

00:00:50.660 Did you ever receive work-related communications on that Gmail account from David Morinz?

00:00:56.520 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

00:01:04.020 Did you preserve any work-related communications on that Gmail account from David Morinz?

00:01:09.560 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

00:01:15.660 Did Dave Morantz ever provide you with documents outside of those two ways that would violate NIH policy for four-year compliance?

00:01:23.940 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

00:01:32.880 Now let's look at two other communications.

00:01:35.400 You emailed Dave Morantz on January 26, 2020, quote,

00:01:39.220 It is important that I speak with you tonight. Please call me at home.

00:01:43.220 This is part of Exhibit 2 that you have in front of you.

00:01:45.660 This email is sent the same day, the exact same day you write in an internal document, quote, now we know the market was not the source. It was the amplifier, unquote.

00:01:59.220 Would you call the origins of COVID-19 a substantive issue?

00:02:04.060 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

00:02:11.380 Did you discuss COVID-19 origins with Dan Morantz on this phone call?

00:02:17.800 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

00:02:26.140 Now, let's take a closer look at the last time you testified before Congress.

00:02:30.480 This is part of what you have in front of you is Exhibit 4, which is part of the record.

00:02:33.860 In June 2024, you testified to Dr. Morant's quote, was not an advisor to me on institute

00:02:40.400 policy or other substantive issues.

00:02:43.080 Furthermore, his office is located in a different building from that of the NIAID director,

00:02:48.360 unquote.

00:02:49.060 Is that still your testimony today?

00:02:51.900 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth

00:02:57.020 Amendment to the Constitution.

00:02:59.040 So today under oath, your testimony remains that Dr. Morant's was not an advisor to you

00:03:03.100 on institute policy or substantive matters.

00:03:07.220 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

00:03:14.440 I've got Exhibit 5, which you have in front of you.

00:03:16.800 On October 24, 2021, David Morant texted you to provide information about and advocate for the controversial EcoHealth Alliance grant.

00:03:25.440 You thank him and tell him you will check the information.

00:03:28.300 Would you agree that this shows an advisory relationship between David Morant and yourself?

00:03:33.100 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

00:03:41.680 Do you agree that you two were discussing a substantive issue?

00:03:46.340 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

00:03:53.100 If documentary evidence establishes that Dr. Morans advised you regarding EcoHealth Alliance, COVID origins, or grant policy, then your June 2024 testimony would have been inaccurate, correct?

00:04:04.780 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

00:04:11.300 Is there any document in your possession today that would contradict your prior congressional testimony?

00:04:15.540 on the advice of counsel i respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the fifth

00:04:21.840 amendment of the constitution have you deleted destroyed or instructed anyone to destroy records

00:04:26.620 after learning congress and investigating these matters on the advice of counsel i respectfully

00:04:32.880 decline to answer based upon my rights under the fifth amendment of the constitution are you aware

00:04:37.920 of anyone who did on the advice of counsel i respectfully decline to answer based upon my

00:04:45.160 rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. As you know, Dr. Marantz,

00:04:49.300 don't face his charges related to destroying records while you distance yourself from him.

00:04:53.020 Is that fair to a decades-long friend? On the advice of counsel, I respectfully

00:04:58.700 decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

00:05:03.600 When is the last time you spoke to him?

00:05:07.360 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth

00:05:12.580 Amendment to the Constitution. In hindsight, are you disappointed how you handle COVID? Do you have

00:05:17.840 any regrets? On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my

00:05:24.140 rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. Dr. Fauci, I want to close with this.

00:05:29.740 Here's how you impacted my family and people close to me. I have daughters with children.

00:05:34.280 You can't imagine the questions they had around vaccines for their kids and themselves,

00:05:38.000 and the pressure, the unbelievable pressure to make the right decision for their health.

00:05:43.360 I can tell you pregnant women who worked with me were so scared because every time they went

00:05:47.760 to the doctor, they were told something different about taking the vaccine. And you caused this.

00:05:53.100 Imagine being a mom trying to protect their kids or an expectant mother trying to figure out what

00:05:57.320 to do. Every three weeks, a doctor tells you a new set of guidance on a vaccine. The haphazard

00:06:02.760 information you released and pushed on the American people with little research is appalling.

00:06:08.000 and why there is so much distrust in our institutions today.

00:06:12.980 That trust is crucial to public health,

00:06:15.200 and you, more than any person or event in my lifetime,

00:06:18.540 have destroyed that trust for millions of Americans.

00:06:21.400 You lied to hundreds of millions of people

00:06:23.320 amid the worst public health crisis in its century.

00:06:26.760 You failed to follow your own guidance.

00:06:29.220 You forced people to watch their loved ones die alone over the phone. 0.99

00:06:32.480 It's disgusting.

00:06:33.200 You destroyed the federal government's credibility when it comes to public health. 0.82

00:06:36.460 We have entire generations of Americans who rightfully so do not trust our institution to keep people safe because of you.

00:06:44.120 This has destroyed decades of progress and lifetimes of work because you want to fuel your own ego and be the center of attention.

00:06:51.340 What would you do differently knowing what you know today, Dr. Fauci?

00:06:55.820 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

00:07:02.780 All the evidence is right here, and you still can't bring yourself to tell the truth or apologize

00:07:06.960 because you received an auto-pinned pardon from a staffer in the Biden White House.

00:07:11.120 If we have another pandemic tomorrow, millions could die because of what you did,

00:07:15.280 what you did to make Americans lose trust in their government when it comes to medicine and health care.

00:07:20.480 How many families have you apologized to had to watch their loved ones die alone?

00:07:25.200 You breached public trust, and now you're hiding behind a fraudulent pardon.

00:07:29.220 Your legacy will not be as a man that saved America from COVID, but as a man who destroyed the public trust in America's public health institutions in exchange for five minutes of fame.

00:07:38.380 This is how history will remember you. I yield back.

00:07:42.100 Senator Kim.

00:07:49.520 Thank you, Dr. Fauci, for coming on out in front of this committee.

00:07:53.500 I know it's not what you would want.

00:07:57.580 it's not what you deserve. I just want to say and start by just saying thank you to you for

00:08:06.040 your service to this nation. I didn't know much about you prior to the pandemic. I came to learn

00:08:16.800 about you from how many Americans did, but I also had the opportunity to talk to you and engage with

00:08:21.840 you as someone who is a member of the select committee on the coronavirus crisis over in the

00:08:26.340 House of Representatives. When I learned about your background, 38 years as the director of the

00:08:33.340 National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease, appointed by President Reagan, served

00:08:40.220 under seven presidents, four Republicans and three Democrats. I admire that greatly. I myself had a

00:08:49.840 chance to serve in the executive branch serving government under both a Republican president and

00:08:56.060 Democratic president. And I believe that we need more of that, more of that type of work,

00:09:03.380 a place where we can understand our jobs not as coming from a place of partisanship and politics,

00:09:09.900 but that of just public service. And right now, I feel the hyper-partisanship growing in this

00:09:17.900 country in dangerous ways. I feel it much more present here on the Hill than I did back when I

00:09:23.780 served as a nonpartisan career public servant at the State Department and I

00:09:28.700 worry about it. I worry about what kind of trajectory we're on as a country and

00:09:33.560 what this causes when it comes next for public service and those willing to step

00:09:40.220 up for our nation. And it's not just in the attacks but we see it brought out

00:09:46.160 with the cuts to funding to the firing of federal workers to the demonization of

00:09:52.780 their motivations people calling our public servants criminals thinking that they are there

00:10:00.780 solely to undermine others that are trying to engage i look at it right now you know it's not

00:10:09.740 just that the people are being attacked our public servants being attacked but that it's undermining

00:10:15.900 the very nature of the work of governance you know these cuts cuts to hhs funding to nih funding

00:10:23.880 to the grants cuts to the researchers doing the critical work to find cures and medicines

00:10:29.800 these firing these cuts they're creating a chilling effect honestly a chilling effect for

00:10:37.040 the next generation of people who might consider stepping up to serve our nation to be the next

00:10:43.740 OK, upon further further review, I can't stand. Listen, these Democrats, I can't stand. I'm listening to glazing this murderer, Fauci.

00:10:50.960 Just to put this in context, the folks we're going to cut back as soon as you get to a Republican, because I got to hear Fauci.

00:10:58.420 I got to hear Fauci taking the Fifth Amendment. He's a monster. He's a monster. 0.97

00:11:03.420 And I'm asking the FBI and whatever. Why is why? When Fauci walks off of there today, is he not cuffed? 0.98

00:11:09.520 This is the problem. This is why we this is why we have a lack of urgency and lack of intensity, the grassroots in the base.

00:11:17.980 People are furious today to cut on this and see Fauci hiding behind the Fifth Amendment because he's a murdering monster and he should die in prison. 0.99

00:11:30.200 He should be in prison for the rest of his life. Where are we on this? 0.98

00:11:34.780 Where's the Justice Department? Where's the FBI? Where are we on this?

00:11:39.100 We've had now a year and a half to plan.

00:11:41.380 This monster comes up and on very straightforward questions.

00:11:45.320 And I really want to give a hat tip to Senator Rand Paul and to the Republicans for just really straightforward, great questions.

00:11:52.140 And he takes a fifth. He's a monster. 0.97

00:11:54.940 Please remember, we were banned on everywhere to YouTube, Facebook, all of it for advocacy of the stolen about the stolen election being stolen, which it was. 0.95

00:12:05.660 Now, we know that. And also about going after Fauci. And look who was right and look who was wrong.

00:12:13.100 This guy's a monster. Let's go to Neil McCabe. We're on Neil McCabe. It's not the White Hill State. He's up on Capitol Hill. 0.98

00:12:18.720 Neil, put us in the room. What's it been like?

00:12:22.580 Yeah, it was very, very tense in the beginning because everyone was waiting to see how Dr. Fauci would react.

00:12:29.540 And of course, he's taken the I don't know. I lost track. Maybe a thousand times he's invoked the Fifth Amendment.

00:12:34.980 Of course, he has been auto-penned pardoned.

00:12:39.780 Senator Johnson in the hallway told me that he sees no way of undoing or challenging the auto-penned pardon.

00:12:47.220 But if you have immunity, like he does—

00:12:50.120 I think Senator Johnson's wrong.

00:12:51.640 This is why the guy's taking the fifth.

00:12:53.860 Trust me, his lawyers are concerned about it.

00:12:55.880 That's why he's taking the fifth.

00:12:56.900 Go ahead.

00:12:58.840 Two U.S. Code 192 basically makes it a misdemeanor failing to testify before Congress.

00:13:04.700 He has he has no legal jeopardy. And so, in effect, he's obstructing a congressional investigation, which is the point that Chairman Rand Paul made.

00:13:14.280 And of course, the great drama is when Fauci's attorney, who Chairman Paul said could not sit at the table and would not be recognized to speak.

00:13:24.640 David Shirtler, Fauci's attorney, continued to protest, object, say the hearing was bogus.

00:13:32.780 He wanted to be recognized, and he was warned at least three times to be quiet and respect the proceedings because he wasn't recognized, and he was escorted out of the room.

00:13:43.900 The Democrats have all asked – they haven't asked any questions.

00:13:48.440 They've all just sort of given speeches because if Fauci actually answers one of their questions – go ahead.

00:13:53.960 OK, hang on one second.

00:13:55.060 You stay right there.

00:13:56.060 I'm going to cut into it and go back.

00:13:57.240 I think Josh Hawley is going to speak.

00:13:59.220 Let's go back to the hearing.

00:14:00.820 Let's try something.

00:14:02.780 What day of the week is it today?

00:14:07.800 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

00:14:14.900 What color tie are you wearing?

00:14:17.720 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

00:14:24.720 What color is the carpet in front of you?

00:14:26.400 on the advice of counsel i respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the fifth

00:14:35.220 amendment to the constitution let's just get one thing straight you don't have any rights under

00:14:38.740 the fifth amendment because you've been pardoned as you very well know as the supreme court has

00:14:43.560 been clear for a century and more brown versus walker 1896 when he has been pardoned he may not

00:14:49.620 stand upon his privilege you know that your lawyer is sitting behind you now shifting nervously in

00:14:55.300 their chairs. They know it. This isn't about the Constitution. This isn't about the law. This is

00:14:59.380 about contempt, contempt for this body and contempt for the American people. But I think I know why

00:15:05.420 you're doing it. It's because you don't want to answer questions. It's because you did all kinds

00:15:11.660 of terrible things. It's because during the pandemic, you got rich, didn't you? You got rich

00:15:17.000 while people were dying, hundreds of thousands of Americans, over a million in the end, and you were

00:15:22.680 getting rich and not only were you doing that you were using federal employees with taxpayer money

00:15:28.600 to apply for and solicit cash prizes for you personally cash prizes totaling over a million

00:15:37.060 dollars you did all of that during the pandemic didn't you that's a question on the advice of

00:15:45.320 counsel i respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the fifth amendment to the

00:15:49.880 Constitution. You remember Greg Fulkers? Who was that? On the advice of counsel, I respectfully

00:15:56.900 declined to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. Your

00:16:01.160 chief of staff is the answer. Do you remember Patricia Conrad? Who was that? On the advice of

00:16:07.260 counsel, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the

00:16:11.660 Constitution. She was your personal assistant. And what were these individuals doing in the

00:16:16.300 depth of the pandemic. In November of 2020, when millions of Americans were suffering from COVID,

00:16:22.100 what were they doing? I'll tell you what they're doing. Folkers was on your behalf

00:16:26.640 soliciting and gathering information for a cash award. Let's look at it. We've got his email right

00:16:32.740 here, right over my shoulder. Folkers says, I'm working on this nomination for the Dan David

00:16:38.420 Award for Fauci. We need to beef up the COVID part. Do you have language in the can that you

00:16:43.320 could share that delineates how we responded in new ways to COVID. He sends this to multiple

00:16:48.280 federal employees. What was the Dan David award? Do you remember, Doc?

00:16:53.860 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth

00:16:59.000 Amendment to the Constitution. It was a $900,000 cash award. $900,000 cash award. And he got it

00:17:10.240 because he used federal employees to get it.

00:17:13.780 And this wasn't the only award, was it, Dr. Fauci?

00:17:16.840 In fact, you applied for and received at least eight other federal cash prizes

00:17:22.580 on federal time using federal employees and federal resources.

00:17:26.800 Here they are over my shoulder.

00:17:28.800 Besides the Dan David Award, you've got the Partnership for Public Service.

00:17:31.580 You've got the Adelson Prize.

00:17:32.880 You've got the Smithsonian Award.

00:17:34.260 You've got the National Academy of Medicines Award.

00:17:36.140 You've got the CDC Foundation.

00:17:37.380 In fact, you turned your staff into a full-time application machine.

00:17:42.260 You actually wrote to people and said, do you think maybe I'd qualify?

00:17:46.860 And you got cash for all of this.

00:17:49.200 And it wasn't just one or two employees, was it?

00:17:51.440 In fact, you used eight separate federal employees on federal time using federal resources to solicit cash awards.

00:18:00.200 Isn't that true?

00:18:00.860 on the advice of counsel i respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the fifth

00:18:07.660 amendment to the constitution here they are right over my shoulder here's all of them the people

00:18:11.520 that you use federal employees so that you could go and get cash money and the most hilarious part

00:18:19.400 is that you weren't content to even dragoon them into applying for all of these cash awards

00:18:24.180 you then had them go out to the ethics agencies and ethics watchdogs and demand that you be able

00:18:30.180 to get the money that's right we've got it in your emails your staff and employees on federal time

00:18:39.220 using federal resources being paid with federal dollars are soliciting cash for you and then

00:18:44.500 they're turning around and saying to the agency we don't want just an answer we want to get to yes

00:18:49.280 because Fauci wants the money he wants it we want to get to yes and yes takes time this is your

00:18:57.760 chief of staff again using federal email to pressure the agency's own ethics people so that

00:19:04.900 you could get money, so that you could get rich. And it violated the law, didn't it, Dr. Fauci?

00:19:13.100 Didn't it? It violated the law, didn't it?

00:19:17.880 Is that a question? It is a question. You can answer. Go ahead.

00:19:21.600 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth

00:19:26.280 Amendment to the Constitution. Federal law, as you very well know, prohibits the solicitation

00:19:31.960 of cash awards or other personal benefits for federal employees. And it certainly prohibits

00:19:37.980 using your own employees to do this. 5 CFR section 2635-205B, it says it right there in black and

00:19:48.220 white. You cannot use federal resources, federal dollars, federal employees, federal offices,

00:19:55.260 federal email federal time to solicit cash awards and you did all of it and the worst part is

00:20:01.540 thousands of people were dying while you were doing it you were supposed to be the nation's

00:20:05.560 doctor and you're playing one on tv but this is what you were doing with your time isn't that true

00:20:11.300 on the advice of counsel i respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the fifth

00:20:19.360 Amendment to the Constitution. Yeah. Yeah, I can see why. I can certainly see why. You know what

00:20:26.060 I can't quite figure out is that why you were so obsessed with it, because you're already rich.

00:20:30.560 I mean, and your scheme worked here. I mean, your net worth now is north of $12 million.

00:20:37.100 You got over a million dollars in cash awards during COVID, during a 12-month, 24-month span

00:20:44.300 during COVID. A million bucks you knocked down in cash money using federal resources. Now you're

00:20:50.820 worth more than $12 million. You've got a pension that in its first year paid out north of $400,000

00:20:57.480 a year. A million people dead, you're getting rich. A million people dead, you're using federal

00:21:03.960 employees to get cash awards for you. A million people dead, and you're here taking the fifth

00:21:09.640 because you don't want to admit that what really happened in all that time

00:21:13.520 was a multi-month, multi-year course of self-dealing.

00:21:17.760 Isn't that true, Dr. Fauci?

00:21:21.480 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer

00:21:24.640 based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

00:21:28.580 Yeah, we'll silence this admission.

00:21:30.900 And here's the real thing.

00:21:32.520 At the end of the day, it wasn't just about the money, really, was it?

00:21:35.460 It was really about a power trip.

00:21:37.860 I mean, through all of this, you want to be the most famous scientist in the world.

00:21:41.560 You were so focused on getting every award and every drop of cash that you could,

00:21:45.880 all because you wanted to be on TV.

00:21:48.560 You wanted to be the sun god of science.

00:21:50.960 You wanted to be the guy who was in charge of it all.

00:21:53.260 You wanted to blambass Trump.

00:21:54.780 You wanted to make sure that nobody else stole your spotlight.

00:21:58.220 You wanted to be the guy.

00:22:00.800 You had time to sit for InStyle magazine.

00:22:04.460 Here's what you were doing with your time.

00:22:05.860 You could sit for InStyle Magazine, but you can't answer questions for the American people.

00:22:11.740 You could sit for InStyle Magazine, but you're here taking the fifth.

00:22:15.060 You could sit for InStyle Magazine and get a million bucks in cash awards, but now the

00:22:20.260 cat's got your tongue.

00:22:22.120 I bet he does.

00:22:24.000 I tell you what, here's my conclusion from all of this.

00:22:27.080 This was really all about you the whole time.

00:22:29.120 Somewhere along the way, you lost your way.

00:22:32.540 You may have been a good public servant at one time.

00:22:34.640 I don't know. But I can tell you from reading your emails now, from looking at what you did,

00:22:38.940 how you used your employees, somewhere along the line, it became all about you. You became a

00:22:44.800 narcissist and a megalomaniac and a liar. And you've lied to the American people and you've 1.00

00:22:50.260 lied to this body. And you've disgraced your profession by doing it. You called yourself

00:22:54.600 the most famous scientist in the world. You've done more to harm science than anybody in my

00:22:59.400 lifetime. And I hope you'll go home and write that in your diary. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

00:23:05.940 Senator Fetterman.

00:23:09.080 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Dr. Fauci, I'm not here to perhaps attack you or defend or anything.

00:23:16.860 It's really just more honestly, I just want to acknowledge I have had members of my family die

00:23:23.980 from covid and now i also grieve for people that i've met that have lost their business through the

00:23:33.260 the pandemic and they'll never been the same now as during the pandemic i was the lieutenant

00:23:40.500 governor so we were in the middle of of all of that maelstrom trying to find the right balance

00:23:46.000 between protect life and protect the economics and for all of it and i'm not sure if we got it

00:23:53.560 all right or wrong um but without a doubt i can continue to question myself but one that i it's

00:24:01.820 not about much more your regrets but i have one and and that is early on that there was the theory

00:24:10.620 that the virus could have emerged from the lab and early on that became like a right wing kinds

00:24:19.660 a theory and i thought it seemed to make sense now there was a really advanced lab that was close by

00:24:25.980 and then you have this unknown virus uh out so uh but that became a very partisan thing and now

00:24:35.620 uh it seems now it's more and more emerging theory that that would have come from from the lab now

00:24:41.820 you know i hope i think that the next time our nation's facing something like this we are not

00:24:48.520 become, you know, as I might have been blinded by the partisan idea that maybe the truth might

00:24:54.240 come from a side that's different than than you are. But I think we should really be willing to

00:25:00.180 pursue truth no matter where that may have emerged after for all of that. So and I now

00:25:08.440 cede the remain back to the chair. Thank you. Senator Moreno. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And

00:25:15.340 I will echo Senator Johnson's comments about your opening statement, Mr. Chairman.

00:25:19.660 I think it was dead on.

00:25:21.180 Very, very well done.

00:25:23.200 Mr. Fauci, do you know who David Shurtler is?

00:25:28.460 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

00:25:36.960 Fifth Amendment of the Constitution.

00:25:39.680 What does the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution say?

00:25:45.340 on the advice of counsel i respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights

00:25:54.680 on the fifth amendment of the constitution no i'm just asking you what it says

00:25:58.940 on the advice of counsel i respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the fifth

00:26:04.740 amendment to the constitution i'm going to give um the constitution to my aid he'll bring it over

00:26:09.880 to you so you can have it for future reference i think it's something that every american should

00:26:14.560 know what the Constitution says. Do you know who wrote the Fifth Amendment? On the advice of

00:26:19.740 counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment of the

00:26:24.200 Constitution. So you're invoking a right that you don't know who wrote it or what it says. Is that

00:26:28.760 correct? On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the

00:26:34.500 Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. Wow. Well, let me tell you who David Shirtler is for the

00:26:39.880 audience because he was ejected by the chairman. He's a high-profile criminal attorney. He's

00:26:46.440 represented some really great people like Senator Bob Menendez. Maybe that's somebody who my

00:26:52.780 Democrat colleagues may remember took gold bars as bribes from the Egyptians. And there's an 0.96

00:27:01.320 article here in the Washington Free Beacon that talks about why you would hire Guy Lake Dever

00:27:07.040 Schertler and the comment is if you're in deep that's who you call. Do you feel like you're in

00:27:11.840 deep? On the advice of counsel I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the

00:27:18.700 fifth amendment to the constitution. Clearly what you think today is that somehow you're above

00:27:28.360 reproach. Somehow you feel like you don't need to be treated like a normal American.

00:27:39.720 Can you do me a favor in the audience and stand up if during the time of the COVID pandemic,

00:27:47.380 you were called a racist for calling the virus a Wuhan virus or the China virus. 0.89

00:27:52.800 If you thought the six foot rule was total crap, if you thought the vaccine wasn't something that you should take, if you thought it was outrageous the way the mass policy was rolled out, if you were fired from your job for not taking that vaccine, including members of the military, if you thought closing schools was catastrophically stupid and that you thought that during these times saying these things made you somehow a lesser human being. 0.93

00:28:22.800 you're not willing to do that is not a question it's not a question to your lawyer is not a 0.97

00:28:38.060 question it's a request all you have to do is look up from your lawyers and look at the people

00:28:45.820 who were absolutely shamed for saying what we know now to be the truth.

00:28:53.240 You can't even look at them?

00:28:56.100 That's a question.

00:28:57.480 Are you able to look at them?

00:28:59.440 You can sit down in the audience.

00:29:00.860 There was a mom in Ohio during the depth of the coronavirus pandemic.

00:29:15.820 decided to go to her high school football game for her son.

00:29:21.200 They hadn't been out much.

00:29:23.880 The kids had been learning at school.

00:29:26.980 And then the school got shut down.

00:29:30.400 They hadn't really gotten much out of that education.

00:29:33.780 As any parent knew, that remote learning was no learning at all.

00:29:37.980 But it was a Friday night.

00:29:40.060 Her son wanted to go watch her buddy go play football.

00:29:45.820 So they went to the stadium. They sat alone, far from everybody else, just a mom, a dad, a few kids.

00:29:54.480 They didn't feel they needed to wear masks because it was stupid, because they were outside. 0.97

00:30:01.800 They all lived together. They're not near anybody. 0.97

00:30:08.200 Dr. Fauci, do you know what happened to that mom and that family?

00:30:12.620 That's a question.

00:30:13.380 on the advice of counsel i respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the fifth

00:30:19.560 amendment to the constitution they were dragged out of that stadium and arrested 0.98

00:30:27.140 those policies were put in place because you had moronic politicians that listened 0.99

00:30:39.420 to the words of a megalomaniac who was more interested in having met a Kardashian 1.00

00:30:46.840 than the suffering of the American people. And that is you. Your advice to communities like that,

00:30:57.840 to idiotic politicians who enforce those rules, arrested that mom for watching a football game 1.00

00:31:06.760 with her own family outside when that story broke i said to myself 1.00

00:31:15.420 i cannot stand i lee on the side and watch this happen it was about six years ago today

00:31:23.200 that i decided i'm going to give up my businesses sell them all run for office run for the united

00:31:30.380 states senate here i am sitting in front of you six years later saying who the do you think you

00:31:35.660 were for doing that. It is a total disgrace what you did to this country. And if my Democrat

00:31:44.100 colleagues are standing there defending you, I hope the voters of the United States of America

00:31:48.620 watch the clips of every one of you doting on a guy who was more interested in being a celebrity

00:31:55.980 than saving American people. I will make it my mission to make certain that every single one

00:32:04.580 of those republic democrats who did that will see that clip over and over and over again

00:32:12.320 because defending there is no defense of what you did

00:32:17.600 you may have had a 50 plus year legacy of public service but it ends in total and complete

00:32:28.600 disgrace so let me ask you an opportunity to answer one question will you apologize just

00:32:38.160 apologize to the people who you harmed through your actions will you say um do you have the

00:32:46.560 dignity to just say you're sorry on the advice of counsel i respectfully decline to answer based

00:32:57.200 upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. So you won't apologize to the

00:33:02.320 military members who Joe Biden is summerly dismissed from the military for not taking the vaccine?

00:33:09.160 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth

00:33:13.760 Amendment to the Constitution. Will you apologize to the business owners that lost their business,

00:33:18.300 shattered their lives, and they'll never recover? On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline

00:33:25.000 to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

00:33:28.900 Will you apologize to the moms who had to force their infant children,

00:33:33.700 two, three, four-year-olds, to put masks on,

00:33:36.200 and what that did and how that traumatized those kids?

00:33:41.080 Under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

00:33:46.740 Will you apologize to the family members or the people who died

00:33:51.520 because they took your advice and not only got the first vaccine but the five six other boosters

00:33:56.520 that they did not need to answer based upon my rights under the fifth amendment to the

00:34:06.500 constitution will you apologize to that mom from ohio for being arrested

00:34:10.360 for watching a football game with her family

00:34:13.920 on the advice of counsel

00:34:18.520 I respect you

00:34:19.320 if the amendment

00:34:22.040 to the constitution

00:34:23.060 so you didn't know

00:34:25.420 who wrote the fifth amendment

00:34:26.360 it's James Madison

00:34:27.340 lived in this town

00:34:30.780 I can only wonder

00:34:34.060 what he would think

00:34:35.840 of somebody like you

00:34:38.060 invoking his writings

00:34:39.880 to shield culpability

00:34:42.080 for the actions that you took.

00:34:47.460 It's no secret why you have to hire 0.50

00:34:49.720 the biggest dirtbag attorney on the planet 0.94

00:34:52.420 because of what you did.

00:34:55.600 I hope you're paying him well.

00:34:57.160 And I hope that one way or the other,

00:35:01.900 somewhere, sometime, you answer for your crimes.

00:35:07.300 Senator Ernst.

00:35:08.420 Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for holding this important hearing today.

00:35:14.800 Dr. Fauci, Americans haven't forgotten the tragic stories of people who lost loved ones during COVID

00:35:24.580 and those that were denied a chance to say goodbye to their family members that were in hospitals

00:35:33.520 or residing in nursing homes because of the COVID-19 protocols.

00:35:39.440 Americans haven't forgotten the mandates, the adverse reactions to vaccines,

00:35:44.640 the government misinformation, social media censorship, hotlines to tattle on their neighbors,

00:35:54.180 the forced school closures the tragic rise in suicides or those businesses that were forced to

00:36:07.460 close during lockdowns. Americans haven't forgotten the hundreds of billions of dollars

00:36:16.020 spent by taxpayers for COVID relief stolen by fraudsters who bought Royals, excuse me, Rolls,

00:36:27.160 Royces and yachts. These were taxpayer dollars. Americans have lost trust in science and government

00:36:37.060 after the COVID response. Trust which will be incredibly difficult for us to gain back.

00:36:44.840 Dr. Fauci, you said that the science was evolving and that your recommendations evolved with it.

00:36:52.180 But Americans remember you as the public face of the coronavirus response.

00:37:02.380 As one of the nation's most trusted voices, you urged policies you said were absolutely necessary,

00:37:10.440 even when those policies came at an enormous human and economic cost.

00:37:19.360 And Americans deserve answers about reports that you may have worked with others

00:37:25.900 to pressure the president into adopting the slow the spread strategy

00:37:34.000 and why you later sought an unconditional pardon for crimes

00:37:38.680 you may have committed dating back to 2014.

00:37:44.840 Dr. Fauci, in 2022, you had a taxpayer-funded salary of $480,000 a year.

00:37:52.500 You were, in fact, the highest-paid federal employee in the entire federal government,

00:37:59.540 even making more than the NIH director and the president of the United States.

00:38:05.680 According to now public documents, that was due in large part to your work on biodefense.

00:38:15.560 Unreported is how NIAID spent over $1 billion from 2009 to 2026 in biodefense and influenza federal contracts and subcontracts.

00:38:29.660 My office uncovered records on usaspending.gov that show from 2015 to 2020, NIAID paid out $515,418 in subcontracts to Harbin Veterinary Institute in Harbin, China, including $100,000 a few days after it opened a BSL-4 biolab in 2018.

00:38:58.360 That very same institute was criticized for doing gain-of-function bird flu research in 2013.

00:39:08.880 And yet you were funding them for years after that, sending U.S. taxpayer dollars to China.

00:39:16.700 These contracts, which we also traced to NIAID, show U.S. taxpayers funded gain-of-function researchers

00:39:23.820 in the Netherlands and in Wisconsin, funding the same folks whose controversial work led

00:39:30.620 President Obama to pause this exact type of dangerous pandemic research.

00:39:38.160 Dr. Fauci, did you know that the NIH's billion-dollar Sears contract programs were funding

00:39:46.420 gain-of-function researchers in China, the U.S., and in the Netherlands?

00:39:53.820 on the advice of counsel i respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the fifth

00:40:00.880 amendment to the constitution dr fauci dr deborah burks wrote in her book that you and president

00:40:09.980 obama's former cdc director were at a saturday march 14th were at a saturday march 14th yes

00:40:19.220 2020 meeting at her home two days before the president announced his 15 days to slow the

00:40:26.480 spread effort. Your now-released diaries said the meeting was a week before that. Dr. Birx said you

00:40:33.840 all were trying to trap the president into having no other options. She wrote, your plan was to

00:40:42.280 quote, block any of the president's escape routes. So, quote, he'd have no choice but to agree to

00:40:50.360 our flatten the curve measures. Yes or no, Dr. Fauci, did you try to block or trap President

00:40:58.380 Trump into the slow the spread, flatten the curve measures in March 2020? On the advice of counsel,

00:41:06.380 I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

00:41:11.200 When the COVID-19 virus broke out in Wuhan, China, you, Dr. Fauci, knew pretty much right away that NIH had funded Chinese labs, including those doing coronavirus research.

00:41:24.260 There's email traffic from early January 2020 where your staff was flagging for you that NIH funded coronavirus research at the Wuhan lab through EcoHealth Alliance.

00:41:35.600 Yet few Americans knew we funded the Wuhan lab because the funding went through a sub-award and was not reported to the public database like usaspending.gov as it should have been.

00:41:50.120 Also, EcoHealth violated federal law by failing to report in its research papers how much taxpayer funding it spent on that research.

00:41:59.760 At my request, the Government Accountability Office helped track down that $1.4 million of U.S. taxpayer money that was sent to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, both by you, Dr. Fauci, and through USAID.

00:42:15.680 But first, it passed through EcoHealth Alliance, which I helped to get defunded through the NDAA.

00:42:21.440 Dr. Fauci, did you intentionally use subaward funding to obscure NIH funding of Chinese

00:42:29.880 bio labs and coronavirus research?

00:42:34.620 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth

00:42:39.440 Amendment to the Constitution.

00:42:41.440 NIAID awarded multi-million dollar grants to a number of scientists shortly after they

00:42:47.760 they wrote publicly in the Proximal Origins paper that the COVID virus likely came from nature.

00:42:55.260 Though documents Chairman Paul released last week show in private,

00:42:59.480 those same scientists were much more open to the virus being from a lab.

00:43:05.200 In 2023, Representative Jordan insinuated that you basically gave a $9 million bribe

00:43:13.080 in the form of an NIH grant to NIH-funded virologists to say the virus likely was from

00:43:21.620 nature? Dr. Fauci, yes or no, did you reward the proximal origin authors by giving them

00:43:27.880 NIAID grants or contracts? I completely declined to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth

00:43:37.960 amendment to the constitution. Dr. Fauci, we have learned that U.S. coronavirus researchers at UNC

00:43:46.180 shipped, quote, humanized or transgenic mice to China by around 2017 for use in their dangerous

00:43:54.320 coronavirus work. Under your NIAID coronavirus, researchers also used aborted baby body parts 0.68

00:44:05.020 in mice research, and taxpayers paid for them to do that. NIH-funded coronavirus researcher

00:44:13.660 Dr. Ralph Baric and his colleagues at UNC put parts of livers, thymuses, and chunks of human

00:44:22.460 fetal lung that they got from aborted, almost five-month-old human babies. They put those

00:44:29.320 parts in their research mice.

00:44:32.920 They disgustingly named them BLTL mice and wrote they had created a, quote, sandwich

00:44:42.080 of aborted body parts in the mice.

00:44:45.300 Get it, folks, BLT, a BLT sandwich.

00:44:51.000 Your RML lab employees in Montana also ordered and used aborted baby body parts in their

00:44:57.680 taxpayer-funded research and emails show how they plan to use those mice for

00:45:03.680 post-COVID work. NIH funded putting aborted babies fingers and scalps off

00:45:12.020 the heads of aborted babies and putting them into the backs of research mice.

00:45:17.560 The scalps later grew fine baby hair in the mice. They even included those

00:45:24.300 disgusting photos in their research paper that you funded. Not all of those were research

00:45:31.160 on coronaviruses, but some were. Thankfully, the current NIH director has said no more

00:45:37.960 of this. Dr. Fauci, yes or no, do you think that human aborted parts should be put into

00:45:46.900 mice for coronavirus research. The advice of counsel I respectfully decline to answer based

00:45:55.700 upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. Mr. Chairman, would you direct the

00:46:01.420 witness to answer the questions that we have been asking? You probably would if he was here, but

00:46:06.580 I can direct it. But I think we understand his answer. We do understand that. Americans are

00:46:14.780 asking for accountability, Dr. Fauci, and your silence is very telling. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

00:46:21.240 Senator Moody. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. You know, I'm the most junior member of the Senate here,

00:46:30.940 showing from where I sit. I just got here last year. Many of you may remember I was the attorney

00:46:36.240 general in Florida who fought back against the lockdowns, the school closures, the church closures,

00:46:43.960 the everything to embrace sanity and science.

00:46:50.580 We fought back.

00:46:51.820 We got ridiculed for it.

00:46:53.940 And we didn't just call people names.

00:46:57.080 We actually impaneled a grand jury of people of all walks of life, all political persuasions.

00:47:08.840 So that's how I came here.

00:47:10.600 fighting for a free state amongst states that had locked their own people down.

00:47:19.220 We are now called the free state of Florida.

00:47:21.360 And I believe our responsibility here is to make sure that government remembers the people are our bosses.

00:47:30.840 That we report to them, that we're accountable to them.

00:47:35.400 Government shouldn't operate for itself.

00:47:37.180 government operates on behalf of and for the American people.

00:47:43.060 And anytime we get close to reporting back to our bosses about what government has done or how it's

00:47:49.180 been abused or how individuals that are employed by the government had acted in their own self

00:47:54.360 interest or against the interest of the American people, every time we get close, if we start

00:47:59.480 uncovering outrageous fraud, we'll have a hearing, and the tactics have been to not show up.

00:48:07.920 So you'll have all of us over here trying to drill down on why we've been giving money

00:48:11.920 that actually works against American citizens, and no one shows up. Today there's, well,

00:48:19.300 nobody's here at the moment. Today there seems to be a difficult, a different tactic. Today

00:48:23.760 we have Democrats showing up and trying to spin why we shouldn't even be having this hearing

00:48:30.600 to report back to our bosses. One said today's hearing does damage. It will deter others from

00:48:36.420 public service. Another said this hearing is designed to entrap you. Another said one fell

00:48:44.000 all over himself flattering you, thanking you for your service multiple times, quoting man in the

00:48:49.840 arena, another said that we are demeaning first responders, and today is a sad play

00:48:58.200 in a repeated playbook, or we're going after one man. I mean, all of their time was used on why

00:49:08.480 we should not be having the hearing to report back to our bosses and give the people accountability.

00:49:14.160 So I would like to talk about that because I believe that trust, the trust the American

00:49:23.700 people place in our public health institutions and what happened to that trust during COVID

00:49:28.300 is important because in a public health emergency, they are asked to make extraordinary sacrifices

00:49:33.960 based on advice given to them by the government that is supposed to be working for them.

00:49:40.160 And for that system to work, the public has to be able to trust the people giving them instructions.

00:49:48.160 That trust depends on candor.

00:49:50.720 Would you agree with that, Dr. Fauci?

00:49:55.500 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

00:50:02.600 And when the evidence is uncertain, officials need to say so.

00:50:05.460 when recommendations are based on assumptions rather than hard data, they need to say so.

00:50:11.300 And when they get something wrong, they need to own it. And when the trust is lost and the

00:50:16.520 consequences extend far beyond any single pandemic, the next time public health officials

00:50:23.060 genuinely need Americans to listen, millions of people may simply ignore them or not believe them.

00:50:29.560 And Dr. Fauci, you were undeniably the face of the federal government's COVID response.

00:50:34.200 You said so yourself in your diary. You said it's not hyperbole to say I've become the most famous

00:50:40.780 and talked about person in the country. So I want to understand how we got here.

00:50:50.260 Let's start at the beginning. On March 8th, 2020, you appeared on 60 Minutes to discuss the spread

00:50:55.540 of COVID-19. You were specifically asked to clear up the confusion and misinformation surrounding

00:51:00.360 masks. You told the American people, right now in the United States, people should not be walking

00:51:05.220 around with a mask. The interviewer immediately stopped you and said, are you sure of it? Because

00:51:10.620 people are listening really closely to this. And instead of walking back or qualifying your

00:51:16.000 statement in any way, you doubled down. There's no reason to be walking around with a mask. When

00:51:20.620 you're in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little better. It

00:51:23.960 might even block a droplet, but it's not providing the perfect protection that people think it is.

00:51:29.020 and often there are unintended consequences, people keep fiddling with their masks, they keep

00:51:33.380 touching their face. Just a few weeks later, the CDC released its guidance recommending that

00:51:38.680 Americans wear masks in public. You were asked to explain your original recommendation. You

00:51:44.180 emphasized a very different consideration. You said, well, back then the critical issue was to

00:51:49.760 save the masks for the people who really needed them because it was felt there was a shortage of

00:51:54.800 masks. So I want everybody to sit with that. The critical issue driving your initial recommendation

00:52:02.020 to the American public was scarcity, logistics, not medical evidence. So when you told the American

00:52:09.880 people there was no reason to wear a mask, what was your principal objective? Giving them an

00:52:15.800 honest assessment of the medical evidence or discouraging them from consuming a scarce supply

00:52:20.160 of masks. On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the

00:52:29.020 Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. Well, unfortunately, that was just the beginning

00:52:33.240 of a broader pattern. Let's talk about the six-foot distancing rule. In April 5th, 2020,

00:52:39.660 interview on CBS said, every time I get to that podium in the White House briefing room, I always

00:52:44.280 essentially plead with people, please take a look at those very simple guidelines of physical

00:52:48.640 separation, and they're very, very clear, physically separate six feet away. Yet when

00:52:54.540 Congress finally asked you in 2024 what science supported that evidence, six-foot distance rule

00:52:59.260 for COVID, you admitted you were not aware of any studies supporting it. Incredibly, you said the

00:53:04.900 six-foot rule sort of just appeared and described it as an empiric decision that wasn't based on

00:53:10.800 data. That rule had real consequences. Schools didn't open back up. Businesses didn't open back

00:53:20.440 up. Churches didn't open back up. I could go on and on and on. And Americans were kept physically

00:53:29.360 separated from one another during the most difficult moments of their lives. Many lost

00:53:33.760 loved ones during that time. So, Dr. Fauci, did you have any evidence to support a six-foot

00:53:41.960 separation rule when you gave that advice to Americans? On the advice of counsel, I respectfully

00:53:50.100 declined to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. All right,

00:53:54.700 well, let's look at the lockdowns then. By 2022, the consequences of prolonged COVID lockdowns on

00:53:59.260 our children were clear from delayed development to social isolation, which is probably why you

00:54:04.620 were asked in July, 2022, whether you would recommend locking down schools again. And you

00:54:09.240 said, first of all, I didn't recommend locking anything down, but now we have your diary and it

00:54:17.420 tells a very different story from the one you told the public. And I will quote, I spoke with

00:54:23.540 Bill de Blasio, the mayor of NYC and convinced him based on what I was saying publicly in my

00:54:27.860 conversation tonight to close the NYC schools, he had already decided based on what I was saying

00:54:32.460 on TV. I went on to tell him he should close the bars and restaurants in NYC, and he said he would

00:54:37.560 do this based on my recommendation. You even said that you told the president we should shut the

00:54:43.160 whole country down. So Dr. Fauci, how do you square telling the American people publicly

00:54:48.160 that you didn't recommend locking anything down with your own diary entry kept on federal

00:54:55.120 government equipment saying that your recommendation is what convinced the mayor and the president

00:55:00.720 to lock things down. On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my

00:55:09.740 rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. Now, I just want to make clear

00:55:14.520 that when in Florida, we were pleading with people to give us advice based on scientific evidence.

00:55:25.120 that we were getting these conflicting statements by you that didn't match scientific data.

00:55:32.360 And in fact, when we impaneled a grand jury, the grand jury's conclusion, not surprising to anyone,

00:55:40.240 and by the way, we're still the only state to have impaneled a grand jury.

00:55:44.400 I was the only attorney general to do this. We did this in 2023.

00:55:48.820 That conclusion was the lockdown mask and social distancing advice ministered by federal agencies

00:55:54.200 and implemented by certain local, state, and federal agencies

00:55:57.000 was not based on the best available scientific data.

00:56:00.760 In fact, many recommendations and their accompanying mandates

00:56:03.480 departed significantly from available research.

00:56:08.980 Again, people from all walks of life, all political persuasions,

00:56:14.520 that is what they found.

00:56:16.340 And yet, during that time, while you were giving those statements

00:56:19.080 knowing there was no scientific basis for it,

00:56:21.860 and we know now you knew it because we have your diary entries you called the governor that i worked

00:56:29.200 with to to fight to keep washington and dc out of our state so that we could indeed respect the

00:56:37.980 rights of our citizens you called our governor governor de santis and i'm going to quote this 1.00

00:56:45.100 so I get it right, right out of your journals, a total jerk, that he is a complete disgrace, 0.99

00:56:53.560 that he is blocking local authorities from mandating masks in various locations, including 0.99

00:56:58.360 schools. And you were very concerned and upset that we were actively, and I'm going to quote,

00:57:05.500 criticizing you, and we talked to her virtually every day about being wrong on everything.

00:57:11.100 and what is astounding is that you wrote you feared because of that because we were questioning

00:57:19.660 our government because we were fighting back for the truth from our government from scientifically

00:57:25.400 based recommendations because we were pushing for that you said you feared that our democracy

00:57:32.080 is in dire danger. Thank goodness we have people up here that I work with that understand

00:57:41.540 our role, which is to report to our bosses, the people, because they are in charge. Calling

00:57:51.420 for our government to be honest with us and transparent with us and accountable to us,

00:57:57.300 that is a democracy

00:58:00.600 what you did is the opposite

00:58:05.620 and I cannot believe I have to explain this to someone

00:58:09.880 who represented our government and some of the most important issues for so long

00:58:14.260 and before I conclude if I can just put up our pardon

00:58:16.980 this is the pardon you have heard so much about

00:58:22.520 and Dr. Fauci

00:58:23.680 The only other person that got a pardon like this, I believe, had a last name of Biden.

00:58:31.040 This pardon goes back to, and if you'll see, January 1st of 2014.

00:58:36.020 Did you talk to President Biden and ask for this pardon?

00:58:42.040 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

00:58:48.520 Who did you talk to in the White House about this pardon?

00:58:50.580 on the advice of counsel i respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the fifth

00:58:57.120 amendment to the constitution did you specifically ask that it be dated back to the beginning of 2014

00:59:02.900 on the advice of counsel i respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the fifth

00:59:09.140 amendment to the constitution did you do that so that you would be given immunity going back

00:59:16.620 the beginning of 2014? On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my

00:59:23.840 rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. I'm just very interested why it

00:59:27.680 was this date. Did it have anything to do with the fact that 2014 was also the year that the

00:59:33.080 NIAID or NIH began funding eco-health alliances, understanding the risk of bat coronavirus

00:59:40.140 emergence grant? On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my

00:59:47.180 rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. And this is the same grant that

00:59:50.580 funded the work on bat coronaviruses at the Wuhan Institute on Virology.

00:59:59.100 Millions of Americans are questioning what happened during COVID, why we were getting

01:00:05.140 given misleading information, misleading advice, why you gave conflicting statements based on,

01:00:12.420 I guess, how you were feeling that day. And Americans, rightfully, we lost over a million

01:00:18.560 Americans. They should be insulted when the Democrats insult our chair that he's doing this

01:00:25.680 because he's on an obsessive mission to go after one man. Could his obsessive mission be to find

01:00:32.040 out why American, a million Americans died and who might be responsible for that and where that

01:00:38.300 started? Could that be his mission, Dr. Fauci? On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline

01:00:47.920 to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. And after everything

01:00:52.420 we have just walked through, can you sit here today and tell the American people, our bosses,

01:00:57.140 that you bear no responsibility for their collapse in trust of their government.

01:01:04.920 The advice of counsel, I respectfully do the contract.

01:01:07.820 It's based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

01:01:11.020 Time has expired. 0.55

01:01:12.980 We're going to do another quick round for those who remain.

01:01:16.120 About five minutes.

01:01:17.260 Any questions that haven't come up that are pressing,

01:01:20.760 let's try not to re-go over territory that's already been done.

01:01:24.420 I'll begin by asking unanimous consent to insert into the record

01:01:27.060 documents show that the CIA transferred funds to NIAID through interagency agreement. Hearing

01:01:34.240 no objection, so ordered. We had hoped to hear testimony from Anthony Fauci today. We haven't,

01:01:41.240 but I think it's important that we do hear from him. So we will have a video we'll play in a moment.

01:01:48.100 For years, Anthony Fauci has been the public face of saying this in all likelihood came from nature.

01:01:54.660 He kept saying, it's the marketplace, it's the marketplace, it's the marketplace.

01:01:57.880 He's been saying that on television up until recently.

01:02:01.600 But what we find is that what he was saying in public is different than what he was saying in private.

01:02:06.420 In January, in private, he wrote that it looks like the wet market was a super spreader event.

01:02:12.880 It didn't originate there.

01:02:13.900 We know that some of the earliest deaths and sickness came from somewhere else.

01:02:18.000 But then for years and years, we got dishonesty.

01:02:21.480 So let's play the video so we can see a little juxtaposition of the problem we're dealing with.

01:02:30.000 Fauci's journal entries contradict what he said publicly about the origins of COVID-19.

01:02:35.740 Fauci admitted in January 2020 that the initial outbreak of COVID did not occur at a wet market.

01:02:42.720 Take a really good look at the animal-human interface and the fact that animals from the wild are being brought into wet markets.

01:02:51.080 You have animals that come out of the wild that are sold at these open, what they call them, wet markets.

01:02:57.600 Wet markets where you bring animals in from the wild who have these viruses.

01:03:03.240 The wet markets in Asia where people bring animals from the forest into a market.

01:03:10.220 There are wet markets in Wuhan that are ample opportunity for a virus to jump from an animal.

01:03:17.300 The origin was from a bat to an intermediate host to a human, very likely in a wet market. 0.93

01:03:23.480 And those animals should not have been in the Wuhan market.

01:03:27.160 They knew that those animals should not have been in the market, and they immediately cleaned out the market,

01:03:33.320 put restrictions on the kinds of animals that come into these wet markets.

01:03:38.600 I think they should shut down those things right away.

01:03:41.500 I mean, it just boggles my mind.

01:03:44.220 so repeatedly saying in public different something different than what he believed in private

01:03:51.880 now this is interesting because you know the first SARS outbreak in 2000 2003 was traced to a wet

01:03:58.120 market to animals there but interestingly they had evidence they had evidence that the animals

01:04:02.380 had the disease they also had evidence that the handlers had a disproportionately high

01:04:06.600 number of antibodies to the disease so there was evidence and the evidence was presented

01:04:11.940 So when this came out, the same thing happened again.

01:04:14.100 They did look at the web market.

01:04:15.720 They looked at the web market and tested, I think, 80,000 animals and didn't find any

01:04:19.320 animals that had COVID-19.

01:04:21.880 When they did find COVID-19 and trace samples there, they found that the DNA or the RNA

01:04:26.920 was consistent with human spread.

01:04:30.880 This was known not later on, didn't take years to develop, was known in January of 2020.

01:04:36.000 And so Dr. Fauci says privately he knows it didn't come from the web market.

01:04:40.400 but as you saw, those were over a multi-year period. One of the other discussions I've had

01:04:45.320 with Dr. Fauci over the years about natural immunity. So most infections, you get a degree

01:04:50.900 of immunity, not perfect, some fairly perfect. Smallpox, you just don't get again. George

01:04:55.560 Washington knew this. He had his wife get vaccinated, but he didn't because he'd already

01:04:58.880 had smallpox. But there's one particular story that a man came up to me and lost his wife to

01:05:04.940 COVID. He said, we all got it. We all got sick. And my wife ended up getting sick enough to the

01:05:10.700 hospital, but they, we'd recovered two weeks. She was still alive. Two to three weeks later,

01:05:15.780 we'd all recovered and they wouldn't let us be with her. And to this day, it's one of the

01:05:19.820 saddest things. And it just, you know, I think all of us should think about this.

01:05:24.100 They were not allowed to visit their mom. He wasn't allowed to visit his wife in the hospital,

01:05:27.580 but based on this misunderstanding of natural immunity that for some reason,

01:05:31.820 two weeks later, they were a problem. But this was all promulgated by you. We had the workers

01:05:37.960 in the meat factories. They were essential. They had to keep working. Most of them got COVID. They

01:05:43.380 got it in the first couple of weeks. Most of them were younger. The reassurance should have come

01:05:47.120 from public health. The reassurance should have said, congratulations, you've recovered.

01:05:52.000 It also should be acknowledged. What's the number one thing we can do if we get another pandemic

01:05:56.220 before we have a vaccine, before we have monoclonal antibodies? It would be to utilize

01:06:00.860 natural immunity. So instead of the advice you were giving to Cuomo and others in New York

01:06:06.160 that led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people or tens of thousands of people,

01:06:11.000 you could have been saying, well, maybe the nurses taking care of the elderly should be people who

01:06:15.080 are two weeks out from COVID infection. We could have used natural immunity as somewhat of a block

01:06:20.480 of protection. Imperfect, but the only protection we had and the only thing we could have done.

01:06:25.680 Instead, the nursing homes were seeded, seeded with people who had COVID.

01:06:30.560 So I think the discussion of natural immunity is one where there wasn't sufficient honesty,

01:06:35.920 humility.

01:06:36.580 There wasn't enough presentation to encourage people.

01:06:39.180 That was the only encouraging thing we had for a while is you've got it.

01:06:42.580 You're very, very, if not impossible, close to impossible chance that you'll die if you

01:06:47.960 get it again.

01:06:48.900 Everybody could have been reassured.

01:06:49.980 Nobody was reassured.

01:06:50.840 It's like, well, we don't know.

01:06:52.160 We just don't quite understand natural immunity.

01:06:54.320 My favorite quote from that is from Martin Koldorf from Harvard.

01:06:59.100 You called him one of the people he had to take down, the fringe epidemiologist, which I've never, ever heard a scientist call another scientist that.

01:07:06.400 But he jokingly said on Twitter, he said, yeah, we knew about natural immunity from 486 B.C., from the time of the Athenian plague.

01:07:16.040 We lost all knowledge of it in 2020.

01:07:19.240 The good news is it's slowly coming back, 24 to 2025.

01:07:22.760 25, we're beginning to understand what natural immunity is again. Not something perfect,

01:07:27.380 but a useful tool that could have been used, but also something that could have helped people by

01:07:31.500 telling the public, my goodness, you're not going to die now. You have a chance. If you've already

01:07:36.060 had it and you're 85 years old and you're at risk for it and you're wanting to feed your wife and

01:07:39.580 they're telling you to wear four masks and not be around your wife when you've already had it,

01:07:43.180 it made no sense. I visited with a man whose mom was 83 and she was dying from COVID. They go to

01:07:51.540 the hospital in Orange County. They won't admit her to the hospital till she's vaccinated because

01:07:56.400 we have a policy that everybody in the hospital must be vaccinated. She's got COVID and they

01:08:00.920 wanted to vaccinate her again. At one point in time, the CDC understood this. They told people

01:08:06.200 don't get vaccinated if you've had COVID within three months. Why? Because it may give you a

01:08:11.580 heightened immune response when you've already got a heightened immune response. But giving a person

01:08:15.480 very sick and many of the people who died from COVID died from this storm of response, this

01:08:23.300 immune storm, the answer wouldn't be try to stir up their immune response more by giving them a

01:08:28.260 vaccine. The answer was actually steroids and good old fashioned steroids, 37% reduction in

01:08:34.000 death. It turned out to be way more valuable than remdesivir, way more valuable than any of the

01:08:38.440 other treatments. But I don't remember ever hearing a complimentary word on natural immunity

01:08:42.960 or steroids or anything else. And, you know, I wish we could have done more today. I would have

01:08:47.880 been willing to accept an apology today. I'm sorry I made mistakes. We all made mistakes. And,

01:08:53.480 you know, at the time I thought the gain of function research was, you know, the risks of

01:08:56.980 it were worth the benefits. But I've reassessed since 15 million people died. People say, well,

01:09:03.340 gosh, these things never happen. We know it happened in 1977. We know with 100% certainty

01:09:08.680 a virus rescaped. In 1977, there's something called the Russian flu. Nobody's exactly positive

01:09:14.100 how it got out. But when they sequenced it, they found out that a flu in 1977 had exactly the same

01:09:20.540 RNA as a 1954 one that they had in the lab and they had created a vaccine for. In fact, turns out

01:09:26.680 anybody born before 1954 was immune. And the only people who got it were people who had been born

01:09:32.440 between 1954 and 1977, but it was identical. The genetic sequence was identical to this vaccine or

01:09:39.680 the virus from 1954, and that doesn't happen because these respiratory viruses are always

01:09:44.640 mutating. To be identical means it had to have leaked from the lab, proof positive that it had.

01:09:49.540 So we know this happens. An author by the name of Young wrote a book and said there was 1,200 cases

01:09:56.560 of significant accidents that have occurred. We knew all of this, and yet it was completely

01:10:01.420 discounted because I think you were worried that if it was seen that you funded dangerous research

01:10:07.960 to start the pandemic, you'd get blamed. And it was a concerted effort. It wasn't just you.

01:10:12.680 Anybody associated with the funding decided we needed to protect ourselves. Senator Johnson.

01:10:19.000 Hey, Mr. Chairman, you mentioned that we lost knowledge of natural immunity. I didn't.

01:10:24.060 Dr. Fauci did. I suppose I had an asymptomatic case of COVID because of the very faulty PCR

01:10:29.840 tests. I never got vaccinated or injected. There's no way I would have done that because I

01:10:34.440 found out enough about the mRNA gene therapy. But you also brought up the issue of hospital

01:10:41.180 protocols. I'm going to be holding a public event on hospital protocols. We've already received a

01:10:46.780 couple of hundred testimonies. They are heart-wrenching. They are heart-wrenching. Here's

01:10:52.720 an excerpt from the testimony of a staff surgeon, very experienced, you know, doctor for decades

01:10:58.460 at Providence Regional Medical Center, Everett, Washington.

01:11:01.620 Quote, after our hospital was given remdesivir by the CDC,

01:11:05.500 we were provided misleading slash inaccurate information

01:11:08.100 about the drug biomedical leadership.

01:11:10.620 When I had a young trauma patient who was a perfect candidate for remdesivir,

01:11:14.940 the infectious disease doctor on call told me to not give it to her

01:11:19.160 because, quote, she seemed like a nice girl.

01:11:24.180 He concludes it was known early that remdesivir kills.

01:11:27.580 I said nurses referred to it as run, death is near.

01:11:32.860 So, again, I've always been, you know, because it never made sense to me that we put all of our eggs in the experimental gene therapy.

01:11:40.500 If you knew anything about it, you would have avoided it like a plague.

01:11:45.180 And we sabotaged early treatment.

01:11:48.520 But the only treatment we really approved, monoclonal antibodies, which I think basically worked pretty well, but those weren't particularly available.

01:11:55.240 They were denied an awful lot of patients.

01:11:56.720 it was all remdesivir based on a study that the NIH changed the endpoint from mortality because

01:12:03.900 it had no impact on mortality today's recovery a drug that the WHO recommended against its use

01:12:09.560 in COVID in November of 2020 but a drug that cost over three thousand dollars for a course of

01:12:16.300 treatment versus things like ivermectin hydroxychloroquine who even Dr. Fauci and I should

01:12:23.960 have got that one out because I want to take this time to enter things in the record said you know

01:12:27.700 we need to have a very tight protocol on remdesivir because it's unknown but hydroxychloroquine I mean

01:12:32.060 that's approved some side effects but we have a long history of it let's put up my my latest chart

01:12:37.140 again I was tracking adverse events on on the experimental injection but I use this chart as

01:12:45.780 a comparison so you've got ivermectin hydroxychloroquine these are average again

01:12:51.160 evaders doesn't prove causation, but you know, there's correlation. It's there for safety

01:12:57.360 signals. So ivermectin, over 30 years of FDA reports, 17 deaths per year. Hydroxychloroquine,

01:13:03.940 over 38 years of reporting, 142 deaths per year. Remdesivir, over five and a half years,

01:13:13.100 546 deaths per year. The COVID injection, almost 7,000 deaths per year. Which is safest? What

01:13:20.640 what did the FDA freak us out about ivermectin hydroxychloroquine when they turn a complete

01:13:26.200 blinds eye toward the injections injury so i want to enter the quote from the surgeon by the way

01:13:32.220 here's here's the answer uh cheryl atkinson in an interview said that when it comes to money we

01:13:37.440 check financial ties among experts on the government panel devising coronavirus treatment

01:13:41.980 guidelines which had the effect of dialing back hydroxychloroquine use and giving an edge to

01:13:46.660 remdesivir we found the 11 members reporting links to a drug company nine of them named

01:13:51.420 relationships to remdesivir's maker gilead seven more including two of the committee leaders have

01:13:56.100 ties to gilead beyond the 11 months they had to disclose two were on gilead's advisory board

01:14:02.060 others were paid consultants who received research support and honoraria by the way within the study

01:14:07.000 i think one of the study participants was employee of gilead bunch also had conflicts with gilead so

01:14:13.520 gee, I wonder why. You know, there are conflicts of interest. Gilead made billions of dollars off

01:14:18.180 remdesivir and people died. In terms of ignoring safety signals, you can probably put that down now.

01:14:26.100 This has come to light. This is Dr. Drew Weissman, who got the Nobel Prize for the mRNA

01:14:31.680 platform. He wrote to Dr. Fauci on February 8th of 2020. Tony, I wanted to alert you to some new

01:14:38.400 data we generated with our mRNA LNP vaccine. Now, it was a higher fold dose, but that mRNA LNP

01:14:46.960 go to the placenta and fetus measured by translation of the mRNA and cause of immune

01:14:52.440 response in an amniotic fluid. So that same day, Dr. Fauci responds, it'd be interesting to see

01:15:00.640 what human dose levels given intramuscular do so about a month later dr weisman replies he said we

01:15:10.680 still have some concerns over the data after they tested it im now again there's more documentation

01:15:16.740 in terms of the fda blew it off it's like i don't worry about that there was a whole thing that's

01:15:22.180 that's what peter marx did when he was said shown that his algorithm was going to mass safety

01:15:27.440 signals the last thing i want to enter in the record here is and i want to make the point you

01:15:33.860 know why is this important that they buried the treatment of severely injection injured

01:15:41.240 the fact that we haven't acknowledged these injection injuries these people can't get

01:15:45.120 treatment they're being gaslit by their doctors so it's all in your head the rate of the injection

01:15:51.460 injured of suicides is increasing because they've given up hope because our medical establishment

01:15:56.540 federal health agencies completely failed him failing to acknowledge it so again

01:16:00.060 dr nath was treating diagnosing and treating injection injured in march of 2021

01:16:04.960 this concerned people so you had dr walter koroshetz writes dr fauci one of the points

01:16:15.300 he made there's been a steady slow stream of reports to me of post-vaccination neurological

01:16:19.680 conditions dr nath has been collecting a bunch he has reports sent out to publish

01:16:25.340 well that alarmed everybody boy you can't let the public know what's actually happening you can't

01:16:31.320 actually let the public know what the science is showing so on april 29th a email from francis

01:16:40.640 collins head of nih2 that to dr korshets says i find this approach troubling and will have the

01:16:47.940 main consequence of feeding vaccine hesitancy and social media over overreaction then dr lawrence

01:16:55.160 Tabak writes to Francis Collins, I don't understand what Walter, why Walter does not

01:17:02.360 shut this thing down. Why don't you shut down that Dr. Nath who's actually treating injection

01:17:08.260 injured? Why? Because of vaccine hesitancy. And because we haven't acknowledged that. And the

01:17:14.880 reason I've been advocating for this is because I know the injection injured. I know people who

01:17:21.100 have lost loved ones within days of the injection. And we've turned our backs on them.

01:17:28.720 They deserve acknowledgement. They deserve to be heard, seen, and believed so they can get

01:17:34.080 treatment. I also know the doctors whose careers were destroyed because you denigrated things like

01:17:41.180 ivermectin and denied ivermectin to people in hospitals who got their kidneys knocked out by

01:17:46.820 randesivir but got put on ventilators never got to hug their loved ones goodbye because those

01:17:53.200 hospital protocols that's what your science did to people so dr. Fauci my only question is

01:17:59.660 based on your lack of testimony here today uh based quite honestly on our our investigation

01:18:06.440 into the cover-up of safety signals and injection injuries we have issued letters to a number of

01:18:13.080 former FDA officials to come in for transcribed interviews, you'll be getting a letter today

01:18:18.180 asking for a volunteer transcribed interview. So I'd be asking, will you comply or will I have

01:18:25.320 to subpoena you? On the advice of counsel, I respectfully

01:18:29.220 decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

01:18:32.820 Expecting subpoena. Thank you. Senator Scott.

01:18:37.640 Dr. Fauci, did you personally receive any royalty payments connected to COVID-related

01:18:41.760 intellectual property? On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my

01:18:48.140 rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. Given that NIH receives royalty

01:18:51.940 payments from certain pharmaceutical companies, why would any American believe these financial

01:18:55.880 ties did not influence decisions about which treatments were promoted or restricted?

01:19:01.020 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth

01:19:05.760 Amendment to the Constitution. Why doesn't NIAID publicly disclose these payments?

01:19:12.640 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

01:19:19.080 Did you partner with Bill Gates on global health initiatives or vaccines?

01:19:24.300 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

01:19:30.920 How much did Bill Gates entities provide in funding to NIAID collectively since 2005?

01:19:36.140 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

01:19:42.380 To your knowledge, did Bill Gates partner with China on sensitive research?

01:19:46.720 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

01:19:53.280 Specifically, dual-use research such as countermeasures or gain-of-function?

01:19:57.760 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

01:20:04.500 Do you know if Bill Gates entities partnered with U.S. government classified programs?

01:20:09.020 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer, based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

01:20:14.540 Do you know if Bill Gates maintains an active national security clearance?

01:20:18.640 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer, based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

01:20:24.200 Did you advocate a request for Bill Gates to receive a security clearance?

01:20:28.220 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer, based upon my rights, under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

01:20:33.740 Do you have any knowledge that NIAID or NIH through HHS sponsored or requested a security clearance for Bill Gates?

01:20:41.500 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

01:20:47.220 Around 2010, my understanding is that the government shifted its approach to biodefense countermeasure research.

01:20:52.420 Did NIAID, under your leadership, partner with the Obama White House or any other U.S. government classified entities on sensitive countermeasures research?

01:21:00.900 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

01:21:06.920 Did your office take steps to drive biological research investments?

01:21:11.760 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

01:21:17.480 What was private industry's take on the type of research in the 2010 time frame and before?

01:21:22.400 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

01:21:27.900 Was it considered too dangerous to conduct an industry that was hesitant to take this on and invest in?

01:21:33.640 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

01:21:39.860 Why did you take steps to mature the government's approach to biodefense?

01:21:44.040 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

01:21:49.980 Were there any specific lines of effort or actions you felt were needed during this time to improve the research development and fielding model?

01:21:57.900 on the advice of counsel i respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the fifth

01:22:01.820 amendment to the constitution how was dual use in gain and function incorporated are accounted

01:22:05.980 for in maturing biodefense countermeasures on the advice of counsel i respectfully decline to answer

01:22:12.060 based upon my rights under the fifth amendment to the constitution did you ever discuss moving

01:22:15.900 gain of function countermeasures research out of government space to private industry space

01:22:21.820 on the advice of counsel i respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the fifth

01:22:26.140 amendment to the constitution how were these private organizations regulated through government

01:22:30.220 oversight while conducting risky research including gain of function or gene editing technology

01:22:35.340 on the advice of counsel i respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the fifth

01:22:39.740 amendment to the constitution did the obama white house or any government entities take steps to

01:22:43.660 inject funding into private industry on the advice of counsel i respectfully decline to answer based

01:22:49.260 upon my rights under the fifth amendment to the constitution how do you ensure that our national

01:22:53.740 security and public health is protected when private organizations work with foreign countries

01:22:57.560 of concern and have the no government oversight such as the eco health alliance research grant

01:23:03.280 you funded in a CCP military lab. On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer

01:23:10.520 based upon my rights under the fifth amendment to the constitution. Given the culture of the

01:23:16.420 pay to play at NIAID, did you or anyone acting on your behalf make any payment or injure any

01:23:23.260 arrangement in any way or fashion of secure influence the broad pardon you receive from

01:23:28.460 President Biden? On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my

01:23:33.480 rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'd like to ask unanimous

01:23:38.680 consent to enter into the record a letter from the Department of Energy that confirms during

01:23:44.100 Anthony Fauci's tenure that Bill Gates was given Q security clearance from 2014 to 2021 without

01:23:52.800 objection that will be entered into the record. I'd also ask you to ask consent to enter into the

01:23:57.160 record the contents of the folder of authorities provided to Dr. Fauci, including the pardon.

01:24:09.260 Let's be clear today, you know, what we've seen. I really did want to hear from Dr. Fauci. I wanted

01:24:16.960 to hear perhaps an apology, perhaps some semblance of being sorry for what happened or that judgment

01:24:26.320 errors were made. We didn't hear any of that. But he was subpoenaed here to testify, refused to

01:24:31.720 answer any questions, even after being directed by the chair and being advised of the law requiring

01:24:36.720 him to do so. He has cited a privilege that is unsupported because of his blanket pardon and

01:24:42.720 because he waived the privilege by testifying at the start.

01:24:46.280 I'm going to give you one more opportunity

01:24:48.000 to comply with the law.

01:24:49.980 Limited to the period of your pardon,

01:24:52.260 at any point between January 1st, 2014,

01:24:56.180 and January 19th, 2025,

01:24:59.600 did you destroy any federal record or tell anyone else to?

01:25:08.280 Under the advice of counsel,

01:25:09.600 I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights

01:25:12.260 under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

01:25:14.660 Given that you have a unlimited presidential pardon,

01:25:18.900 what is your specific objection that you are making?

01:25:23.040 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer

01:25:25.680 based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment

01:25:27.580 to the Constitution.

01:25:28.640 My question was limited to the period of your pardon only.

01:25:30.980 I find your objection unsupported

01:25:33.440 and direct you to answer the question.

01:25:36.420 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline

01:25:38.660 to answer based upon my rights

01:25:40.160 under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

01:25:42.260 Because you refuse to answer, citing a privilege that is unsupported because of your pardon,

01:25:47.960 and after being denied to do so, this committee is scheduled to vote next week on a resolution certifying your contempt.

01:25:55.660 I think we have another question or two from Senator Langford.

01:26:01.140 Mr. Chairman, really this is a question for you, and it's a question to try to figure out how do we get a good answer on this.

01:26:08.180 because clearly Dr. Fauci's attorneys were saying that he has a Fifth Amendment right.

01:26:14.400 We've also subpoenaed him to be able to compel his testimony to be able to be here.

01:26:18.780 I happen to be in the committee. We're also dealing with Lois Lerner.

01:26:22.860 Lois Lerner came and testified, gave an opening statement, and then took the Fifth Amendment.

01:26:30.060 The committee then held her in contempt for that, saying you can't do both.

01:26:34.100 You can't both testify and say I'm not going to answer questions.

01:26:38.180 So the parliamentary question that I think we've got to be able to deal with is, is this consistent with Lois Lerner?

01:26:43.560 What she also did when she came before Congress, gave an opening statement testimony, so made a statement and then refused to answer questions.

01:26:51.960 Are we dealing with the same issue here where someone is making you can't make a statement and say, I'm not going to make statements at the same time?

01:26:59.300 I think it's a very good question. I think that's something all of us will examine over the next week.

01:27:03.640 We're going to have a vote next week on contempt.

01:27:06.240 I think there's another legal question that the courts may have to decide upon, and that

01:27:12.180 is whether or not a presidential pardon that offers you complete immunity, that you can

01:27:18.020 still claim that you need protection from immunity when you've been protected.

01:27:22.360 Because Dr. Fauci isn't liable for anything, as long as he tells the truth.

01:27:25.740 Even if he admits that he destroyed records on a routine basis, his assistant said she

01:27:30.900 destroyed a ton of emails.

01:27:32.400 I think it was a routine thing.

01:27:33.700 I think he destroyed throughout his career, there are probably thousands of emails.

01:27:38.560 Even if he did that, as long as he answered truthfully, yes, I did, I didn't think that

01:27:43.140 was important, I made a mistake, you can't be prosecuted for it.

01:27:47.560 Many of the things are outside the statute of limitations as well.

01:27:51.140 All he had to do today if he wanted to testify was be honest.

01:27:53.420 As long as he was honest, even about committing a crime, he would have no jeopardy.

01:27:57.220 But I think the pardon has given him more immunity than most people would ever get.

01:28:03.140 Like if you offer a witness immunity in exchange for testimony, he has blanket immunity.

01:28:08.180 The president gave him blanket immunity for virtually anything he could have possibly done while at NIH.

01:28:14.140 So I think we all have to individually answer this question.

01:28:18.200 We welcome you to be part of helping us figure out the question.

01:28:21.440 But there will be a vote, at least right now, that will be planned to be a vote next week on contempt.

01:28:25.900 OK.

01:28:26.900 Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

01:28:28.900 Today will be the capstone to Anthony Fauci's 40 years of abuse of power at NIH.

01:28:33.900 In the end, you must imagine Fauci believes he got away with it.

01:28:38.600 But still, late at night, even the guilty must become anxious, rerunning the scenarios

01:28:43.220 through his mind, wondering, latching on to lingering doubts, and worrying, did his actions

01:28:48.800 lead to the largest man-made plague in human history?

01:28:52.340 Are the millions dead the result of his experiments or experiments that he approved that increased

01:28:57.320 the pathogenicity of deadly viruses?

01:29:00.340 History will judge, but the facts as we now know them paint a sordid tale of dishonesty,

01:29:05.740 misjudgment, and ultimately the hubris the likes of which the world has rarely seen.

01:29:11.500 If everyone will remain seated for a few minutes, we're going to let Dr. Fauci exit.

01:29:15.180 Thank you.

01:29:16.180 Without you, say hi to Vincent Huntsville for me.

01:29:29.660 Okay.

01:29:31.140 Historic hearing.

01:29:34.060 Kind of asked the question, why wasn't this done a while ago?

01:29:37.460 But, hey, it's done.

01:29:39.700 And we got Neil McCabe there.

01:29:41.520 They killed it for dramatic purposes.

01:29:47.660 Senate, maybe we should have kept it, but I'm sure the deep state's in session.

01:29:55.600 Okay.

01:29:56.560 Let me go to Neil McCabe that is there.

01:29:58.620 First off, jaw-dropping.

01:30:01.840 And Davis is going to come up.

01:30:02.980 He's either got a pardon or he doesn't.

01:30:05.840 And they compel testimony.

01:30:07.280 I don't know.

01:30:07.780 I went to Danbury for this issue. 1.00

01:30:11.520 But Fauci ought to burn in the deepest pit of hell. 0.99

01:30:17.600 We've got to be very smart about this. 0.98

01:30:20.720 I think people, too, and I hope this rejuvenates some urgency.

01:30:27.920 What do you think Mandani and this crowd or Ossoff or Newsom or any of these nutcases on the left

01:30:34.260 or what happens when Jamie Raskin takes charge here?

01:30:38.720 I understand things are not perfect. I understand there's a lot of things that people are not happy with.

01:30:45.460 I understand that we're not happy here. But if you didn't have Trump, you wouldn't have a country.

01:30:50.880 And right now you got to go back to that and you can see what's going to happen.

01:30:56.220 The Fauci's of the world are going to be in charge. And I realized they were, you know, oftentimes empowered by those around us. 0.99

01:31:06.200 But you've got to cut to the heart of it. We can never allow those people to be back in charge.

01:31:11.620 Also, we haven't eviscerated enough the guilty over in the deep state medical and scientific apparatus.

01:31:19.720 Neil McCabe, you were in the room from the beginning, and we're going to try to do it in this evening.

01:31:24.000 And tomorrow we're going to try to mash some of this together for the dramatic context of it, because it's quite dramatic and very important and must be remembered.

01:31:31.980 It must be acted on. I was actually talking to people.

01:31:38.120 Maybe let's say some in some levels of authority, like, why are we not in paneling a ground?

01:31:42.340 First off, why is this guy not in handcuffs being perp walked out after this?

01:31:46.720 Number two, why are we not in paneling a grand jury this afternoon in maybe one of these cities that he destroyed, which is like a lot of them?

01:31:57.120 Neil McCabe, you were there. Thoughts?

01:31:58.640 well you know we've talked about the fact that jay clayton was fast-tracked for confirmation

01:32:04.680 he was confirmed by the senate yesterday and uh you know a lot of times there's problems with

01:32:10.860 nominations but not for jay clayton i'll tell you someone else who was fast-tracked and that was

01:32:15.720 judge janine pierro because my boss ed martin was unacceptable to the republican leadership

01:32:22.540 I'll tell you, if Ed Martin was the U.S. attorney in D.C., people would be in cuffs.

01:32:28.140 But that's neither here nor there.

01:32:29.720 He's in another business now.

01:32:30.520 No, no, no, no, no.

01:32:31.220 No, no, no.

01:32:31.700 It's not here.

01:32:32.300 No, no, no.

01:32:32.740 Hang on.

01:32:33.060 It's the heart of it.

01:32:33.780 Ed Martin was getting stuff done.

01:32:35.140 Bill Pulte.

01:32:35.740 These are heroes.

01:32:37.480 Are they they got some rough edges?

01:32:40.040 Yes.

01:32:41.040 Is a little unvarnished?

01:32:42.660 Yes.

01:32:43.820 Is it always played by the marquee of Queensbury's rules?

01:32:46.820 I don't know.

01:32:47.640 Most of the time.

01:32:49.460 But that's what we're in.

01:32:50.260 We're in a revolutionary time.

01:32:51.540 These people are radicals. Look at Fauci. Look at what you just heard.

01:32:55.180 He's the greatest we ever had. He and Collins, he's a flat out stone cold murderer. 0.99

01:33:03.140 And yet we play all these games. Hang over a second. You stay right there. 0.99

01:33:06.000 I just want to get Mike Davis in here for a second.

01:33:07.700 Neil McCabe is outside the Capitol. He was there for this historic hearing.

01:33:11.700 Mike Davis. Mike, I'm totally confused here, Viceroy.

01:33:14.600 If he's got an auto-pin pardon from a guy that's senile, and Jeff Clark, we're going to get Jeff Clark up.

01:33:22.800 Jeff Clark has got the most unbelievable analysis of this interview, as only Clark can do, because you know how smart Clark is, Davis.

01:33:31.140 Viceroy, please help me out here.

01:33:33.020 How can he take the Fifth Amendment if he's got a pardon?

01:33:35.180 He's either got one or the other.

01:33:36.500 Either got a pardon, or you can take the Fifth Amendment.

01:33:39.000 Help me.

01:33:39.280 I'm just a simple mick.

01:33:41.180 Help me out here, sir.

01:33:42.740 You're exactly right, Steve.

01:33:44.140 Remember this, Tony Fauci funded COVID's birth in the Wuhan lab.

01:33:50.640 He lied about it.

01:33:51.800 He covered it up.

01:33:53.280 COVID caused millions of deaths, trillions in lost treasure.

01:33:58.800 Years of our lives were lost to misery.

01:34:03.380 Kids learning will suffer tremendously, particularly poor minority kids who don't have the resources like others to weather the COVID storm.

01:34:13.140 They were abused. They were neglected. I mean, they're already behind in life. And then you have this monster, Tony Fauci, lying about this, lying about how lethal COVID is. So we have our world shut down, making up the six foot rule, making up the mask mandate.

01:34:31.980 He was just pulling this so-called science out of thin air.

01:34:36.400 And when any of the scientists or others questioned him, he had them censored.

01:34:42.040 He had them fired. He had them canceled.

01:34:44.460 This guy is a monster. Right. And that's why he had to get his Biden part. 0.97

01:34:49.980 So we come to today. He either has that Biden pardon and he's not subject to criminal liability for truthfully testifying today.

01:35:01.440 and he refused. He pled the fifth illegally. So therefore, Rand Paul should hold him in contempt

01:35:07.740 of Congress. They should refer him to the Trump Justice Department. He should face

01:35:13.880 criminal contempt charges. He should face obstruction charges, obstruction of a

01:35:20.060 congressional proceeding. Alternatively, if he didn't take that pardon, if he didn't accept

01:35:26.120 the pardon from biden he should face charges for his crimes against humanity including mass murder

01:35:33.120 of millions of people this guy i we there are very few people in the history of this world

01:35:40.920 who are as evil as tony fauci i a thousand percent agree with you uh we're gonna go to

01:35:48.840 the gagland for a moment i want to go to that i'm gonna get you back on about this i got to

01:35:52.580 ask you, though, real quickly. Todd Blanche, you got President Trump's best friend. Remember,

01:35:57.700 we spent three months down in Texas on this thing and with Paxton. President Trump's best friend,

01:36:02.860 John Cornyn, remember that? His best friend is now holding up, even coming to a committee for a vote

01:36:09.780 unless he sees full documentation and he signs off on the contract about the weaponization just up

01:36:16.440 in President Trump's face. Is there an alternative? I mean, why are we acting like a supplicant to

01:36:21.480 john cornyn right we ought to be stripping him of everything why are we acting as a supplicant

01:36:25.900 as hard as everything is is there an alternative for todd blanchett say screw it right now and he

01:36:31.300 goes back as a special government whatever and we get through the midterms and then we come back

01:36:35.420 after we hold the senate and get rid of cornyn and crush these guys and just confirm him then sir

01:36:40.320 look i would say this i i worked on the senate judiciary committee i handled nominations as

01:36:45.760 the Cheek House for nominations. I worked with Cornyn. I would say to John Cornyn, I don't think

01:36:51.300 that he is going to tank a president's attorney general pick, including an attorney general pick

01:36:59.720 of a president of his own party. I think they're going to get this resolved. I think cooler heads

01:37:05.080 are going to prevail between now and the committee vote on Thursday, and Todd Blanche will be

01:37:12.180 confirmed by August honor before August 5th. And so John Cornyn will come to the right result here

01:37:21.200 because he knows that Todd Blanche is extremely qualified. John Cornyn voted for Todd Blanche to

01:37:27.940 be the deputy attorney general. By statute, the deputy attorney general has all of the powers,

01:37:33.100 almost all of the powers as the attorney general. Todd Blanche has been a federal prosecutor. He's

01:37:37.560 been a big law partner. He put that all on the line to defend President Krupp against the

01:37:43.880 unprecedented Republican in lawfare. Todd Blanche has done a great job as the Deputy Attorney

01:37:48.560 General and the Acting Attorney General. I think that we're going to let cooler heads prevail here

01:37:53.560 and Todd will get confirmed. As you know, we're not cooler heads here in the war room. That's

01:37:58.220 where we bring you in, Vice Roy. Vice Roy, where do people go to Article 3? Thank you for jumping

01:38:02.100 in. I'm going to have you back on about Fauci. Where do they go? Article3project.org, Article

01:38:06.980 number three project dot or donate follow us on social action items let's go get todd blanche

01:38:11.960 confirmed right now call contact both of your home state senators patch through phone calls

01:38:17.180 emails social media post democrat and republican home state senators help republicans find and

01:38:23.520 keep their backbones and rattle the democrats yeah thank you you know fauci had a big-time

01:38:28.920 criminal lawyer when he's got a big-time criminal lawyer i think fauci and the lawyer are telling us

01:38:33.220 The auto pen pardons are no good. I'll take I'll take Fauci's fifth today calling back for something.

01:38:38.480 But this pardon is no good and none of them are good. So, Junior, Joe Biden's a perverted, demented son ought to think about running his mouth. 0.94

01:38:48.680 Because I think we ought to go after all of them and indict them all. Mike Davis, thank you so much. 0.89

01:38:52.960 Starting with when you hear Jeff Clark, we're going to indict frickin Biden for giving away highly classified information.

01:39:00.060 OK, they're doing a gaggle right now with Rand Paul. Let's hit it.

01:39:03.220 He advocated for monetary awards, and when there was a question for monetary awards,

01:39:07.520 he was responding, you know, do we have to get the yes on this?

01:39:10.940 And it's not an insignificant amount of money.

01:39:12.880 We're talking about an award in a dinner certificate.

01:39:15.140 It took about a million dollars, and not only was he advocating for himself,

01:39:18.840 he was asking others to fill out applications for him to get the million-dollar prize.

01:39:23.540 He specifically wanted the money and wanted the waiver.

01:39:26.420 I think it is the only way to use your employees to try to get monetary awards.

01:39:29.520 So yes on that.

01:39:30.320 The other most important thing that came from the diaries is that privately in January 2020, he was already acknowledging that he didn't come to the wet market.

01:39:39.480 That's just dishonest. It may not be a crime, but he knew in January 2020 that the earliest cases did not come from the wet market.

01:39:46.140 They came from somewhere else.

01:39:47.600 If you saw the clips, that was just what we found in about 24 hours.

01:39:51.540 We found maybe 10 different clips of him saying, hey, the wet market, the wet market.

01:39:56.760 Why is he doing that?

01:39:57.840 It's not just an innocent argument.

01:39:59.520 The wet market poised to it being of nature.

01:40:02.240 If it's not the wet market, it might be from the lab.

01:40:04.620 Who funded the lab?

01:40:05.800 You see, he's been self-interested.

01:40:08.100 You know, people, and many of you won't say who they are,

01:40:11.340 but many of the media treated everything he said as disinterested.

01:40:15.220 He was self-interested from the very beginning.

01:40:17.460 He was self-interested in making sure that nobody completely came from the lab.

01:40:23.120 We're also going to go back.

01:40:24.460 I'm going to tell a story since the war room was on top of it

01:40:26.300 about Barrick at University of North Carolina,

01:40:28.120 And particularly, how did Fauci get reversed Obama's policy and gain of function in December of 2017?

01:40:36.800 Oh, yes. We'll go back to the old war and pandemic days and I will tell you how he did it.

01:40:42.740 This got a rot in prison. Actually, he should be executed, but he should rot in prison. 0.99

01:40:48.840 Neil McCabe, you were there. It's so revolting and disgusting to look at that worm and how many people he murdered, 1.00

01:40:54.460 How many people died at his hands 0.99

01:40:57.080 The economic destruction

01:40:59.300 The kids that didn't have junior and senior years of high school

01:41:02.040 The kids that didn't have junior and senior years of college

01:41:04.260 All of it

01:41:05.300 It's absolutely revolting 0.97

01:41:06.820 And to see that worm there trying to hide behind the Fifth Amendment 0.99

01:41:09.480 Is disgusting 0.99

01:41:10.920 Your thoughts, Neal McCabe

01:41:12.300 Yeah, this isn't something that happened 100 years ago, right?

01:41:16.960 We all lived it, right?

01:41:18.360 It was something that was part of our business, our education

01:41:21.720 I know people who basically had to drop out of college because they refused to get the

01:41:27.080 vax.

01:41:27.920 In the room, there was tremendous applause when David Shertler, Fauci's attorney, was

01:41:34.840 escorted out.

01:41:36.300 And to his credit, Chairman Rand Paul, he tried to get the guy to just sort of accept

01:41:42.180 that he wasn't recognized and he could not speak.

01:41:45.580 The guy kept going.

01:41:47.000 Rand Paul said, you're not allowed to sit at the table with Fauci.

01:41:50.860 but he sat there anyway.

01:41:53.060 Rand Paul was ready to roll with that.

01:41:55.240 But the guy almost like,

01:41:56.640 it's almost like he intended to get thrown out.

01:41:59.760 You know, like Roger Clemens,

01:42:01.360 when he didn't have a curve ball

01:42:02.480 would get himself thrown out of a game.

01:42:04.180 That's another story.

01:42:05.420 I thought that the Republicans were very good

01:42:07.880 at hitting Fauci from different angles

01:42:10.800 and laying out a roadmap

01:42:12.700 because each question is something people

01:42:15.780 can now crowdsource and look up on their own.

01:42:19.120 And these are all of the things

01:42:20.720 of people have questions about and now what's going to happen is people can now follow this map

01:42:25.360 to sort of dig in themselves into what happened i thought josh holly was great talking about

01:42:31.260 the money that fauci made and how fauci used his on the federal payroll we're searching for awards

01:42:39.980 strong arming the ethics yeah even some of the stiffs were great they were great today um

01:42:46.420 Neil also I want some inside baseball like Fetterman but when the a lot of Democrats you

01:42:52.940 know size it up and said I don't want anyone to be on I don't want to be on camera I don't want

01:42:56.860 to cut a 30 second spot with me defending Fauci or anything Democrats at the at one point just

01:43:02.240 headed for the hills emptied out and never going to defend him why is that important Fauci's got

01:43:07.320 no air cover even mainstream media because they're going to watch their culpability in this

01:43:12.060 And quite frankly, their liability. So you're going to see, by the way, some of the some of the MSNBC crowd is going to come in hard.

01:43:18.960 But today, the big tell for me is that a lot of the Democrats would not even run cover for him, sir.

01:43:24.860 Well, Gary Peters used his opening statement, the vice chairman, the Democrat from Michigan, who is returning to private life.

01:43:33.260 Peters took his opportunity in his opening statement to basically go after Rand Paul, saying that he was pursuing a personal vendetta.

01:43:40.780 But all the other Democrats refused to ask Fauci any questions because they didn't want to risk him answering a question, which would set up perhaps a legal jeopardy.

01:43:52.200 But of course, John Fetterman, the Democrat from Pennsylvania, he was very tough. He was very honest and sincere. He had a gaggle in the hallway.

01:44:00.860 and as he was talking about his concerns and his disappointment that Dr. Fauci wouldn't answer the

01:44:07.720 questions so we could just find out what happened two mainstream media reporters tapped their

01:44:13.960 videographers and said we're out of here Fetterman's not giving us anything we can use

01:44:18.820 and so that's where we're at Steve uh Neil uh social media where do you go to track you down

01:44:24.980 great job today you can find me on all the socials at reporter McCabe Steve

01:44:30.300 thank you neil appreciate you

01:44:33.100 boy let's go back and pick that scab think of the fights we've had here for the audience have

01:44:41.660 been with us through war room impeachment pandemic um and and you know this is going 0.99

01:44:49.260 after fauci and and the work that natalie g winters if i got natalie doing some clips right

01:44:54.680 now some of the work she did on investigating this the weakness of the whole thing the weakness

01:44:59.080 to 60 minutes that just is disgraceful. And after he was shown as a total fraud to have Biden in

01:45:05.800 that crowd, just double and triple down, this ought to get your sense of urgency up. And I

01:45:09.820 realized, oh, people had it and should have done more investigations. I got it. I got it. It's not

01:45:14.180 perfect. But the reality is this is going to come back triple if they ever take charge again. This

01:45:22.940 why they can never be in charge. They can never be in charge. They are Marxist fascist, right?

01:45:32.400 They run like fascists. It's despicable. Also, hey, I'm a simple mick, but as we explore this 0.99

01:45:40.460 the next couple of days and go back and bring up the old evidence, I don't know how, if she's

01:45:45.020 coming over in late September, maybe he brings a checkbook and he's prepared to write a 12 or 15

01:45:51.440 trillion dollar check of what they owe us. Because now you see the culpability of what

01:45:58.740 happened in Wuhan, the lying about it. Why were they actually working on these gain of functions

01:46:03.900 to basically weaponize? It was not about making vaccines. It's about taking out Trump and the

01:46:10.360 Trump administration, because Trump is the first time that he'd gotten hammered. And remember,

01:46:14.500 in 2019, after two years of diplomacy and negotiations, they ripped up and spat in our

01:46:22.340 face. They ripped up the Lighthizer-Peter Navarro deal that covered their seven deadly sins and

01:46:28.420 actually started to work them into the global economy. They ripped it up, spit in our face,

01:46:33.980 and then declared a people's war in 19. Oh, and that summer, you started to see the beginnings 0.58

01:46:40.440 of the military weapon they had, the bioweapon they had.

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01:52:51.520 You've got a bombshell for me this morning.

01:52:53.200 You told me about it.

01:52:53.880 My head is still spinning.

01:52:55.540 What do you got for us, ma'am?

01:52:57.600 So we have an update for the story out of Allegheny County in Pennsylvania.

01:53:01.920 What started off, we thought about two weeks ago, was 30 properties that they were looking at.

01:53:06.940 And now we know the count is up to 43.

01:53:09.860 The investigation is still ongoing.

01:53:11.420 Um, but investigators were looking into these properties that were being transferred, um,

01:53:17.780 after a, a, the first person that discovered it were going to try to refinance their home.

01:53:24.140 And then the company found out that it was no longer in his name and someone else somewhere

01:53:28.600 else, uh, we're doing a, uh, county property records search and revealed that the deed

01:53:34.600 had been transferred out of their name because they were trying to transfer it to their grandchild,

01:53:38.560 their son or grandson. And all of these things kind of came up in different areas. They had no

01:53:44.320 clue that this was all connected. And they found out by looking at each of these items that someone

01:53:50.000 had taken the information from real notaries, altered the stamps, ordered them on the big

01:53:57.100 online retailer whose name that I can't really say, but it's orange and black lettering,

01:54:02.620 and just changed the information and went and filed these with the county. And so they started

01:54:06.700 finding, um, transfer document after transfer document. And they found out that they were

01:54:11.520 slow down, slow down, slow down. Cause I'm, they didn't, they went online, did what? Explain,

01:54:19.060 explain that to me again, folks, if you don't think in this rudimentary system, you don't think,

01:54:24.580 okay, let me be very simple about this. Uh, in modern America, if you're lucky enough to own a

01:54:31.200 home. And if you're under 40, you probably don't. But if you own a home, that home is obviously

01:54:38.220 your castle. It's every dream you've had is in there. However, it also happens to be essentially

01:54:44.500 your retirement program. That is the basic savings of the American people. Social Security,

01:54:50.040 even if it sticks around, is not going to cover you. You know that. It's that net worth. It's the

01:54:55.700 It's the net worth, your equity in that home, which is, I think, on average, 80% or 90% of American people's net worth if you're lucky enough to own a home.

01:55:04.020 The system that protects this is rudimentary.

01:55:07.600 You need tough people, smart people on your side.

01:55:10.500 That's what $1 million triple lock protection gets.

01:55:12.880 But it also gets you in the game for pennies a day to avoid what happened here.

01:55:17.980 What did they do when they went online?

01:55:19.620 Because these people are, first off, with AI and cyber, I don't know how you're going to stop it, right?

01:55:24.420 This is why you need a home title lock.

01:55:27.240 But even without using that, these people are so crafty, so cunning, and so smart.

01:55:33.160 What did they go online and do?

01:55:35.300 They took real notary stamps that they found of notaries in the area and then had them altered, probably using AI.

01:55:42.600 We don't really know.

01:55:43.900 Had them altered and then just ordered.

01:55:45.960 You can order these notary stamps online.

01:55:47.800 That's how notaries get their stamps.

01:55:49.620 And there's no authentication process when you go in to file these at the county.

01:55:53.440 They just make sure it's stamped, it's filled out properly, and it's signed.

01:55:57.140 And so that's how all of this is going through.

01:55:59.160 You mentioned rudimentary protections.

01:56:01.020 The bottom line is there really is no protection.

01:56:04.060 This article, it came out through CBS with all these updates.

01:56:08.500 And the article even says the thing is the homeowners that are going through this already, I think one of them, his name is Richard Self.

01:56:16.240 They've been going through this for like a year.

01:56:18.560 And he finally got his property restored to his name despite the ongoing investigation.

01:56:22.260 but it's a completely separate process it's all a civil issue that you have to go through

01:56:26.860 he spent thousands of dollars and it took months and months and months to get this switched around

01:56:31.400 in his name so despite this person being found out yeah for the penny penalties you remember

01:56:36.420 the criminal and the civil are two different things yep for the pennies and dikes a day

01:56:41.580 to get you peace of mind remember if this happens to you your total life changes everything that

01:56:49.460 you're focused on right and i think it actually ends up killing people because the rise of blood

01:56:53.680 pressure and just angst and worry your entire life focuses on how do i stop this how do i get my home

01:56:59.460 back and the money you have to spend but the opportunity cost nothing is the same that once

01:57:04.180 that happens that's why for pennies a day and and don't take it from me i need you to contact the

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01:57:13.780 triple lock protection it goes now we have the special you get two weeks to try it but natalie

01:57:19.220 where do people go right now to talk to you and the team?

01:57:21.860 Cause the best way the posse does this,

01:57:23.480 they want to immerse themselves is to contact you guys,

01:57:26.200 go online,

01:57:26.800 get the information of any additional questions,

01:57:29.280 Natalie Dominguez and her team are there to answer where they go.

01:57:32.660 Yeah.

01:57:33.020 You're going to go to home title lock.com.

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01:57:58.220 None of these people knew this was going on.

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01:58:01.660 Don't let yourself fall into that category

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Bannon's War Room - July 29, 2026

Episode 5551： The Hearing Of Anthony Fauci

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