00:10:52.880Just explain to the audience what's going on with kind of these,
00:10:56.060visa debacle, I would call it. Yeah, this is one of these visa programs that was created with all
00:11:05.300the best intentions to allow for foreign exchange programs, study abroad, having government visitors
00:11:14.760from other countries come and study how we do things here. But like every visa program we have,
00:11:21.540eventually it gets taken over by employers and staffing companies to be a cheap labor program.
00:11:31.320So if you've been to the beach this year, if you've been to your local pool or any resort,
00:11:36.840you've probably noticed that there are young, smiley, happy people from other countries working
00:11:43.400at these places. They're here on an exchange visitor visa, more than likely, a J-1 visa.
00:11:51.540And this program that was started to do Fulbrights and high school exchanges, now more than 75% of the people coming on these quote unquote exchange visas are actually cheap labor for employers.
00:12:07.320And that's because at some point, more than 20 years ago, somebody realized that you could start up a staffing company with a name like Save the World or, you know, Cultural Understanding and bring in workers from other countries to work at low rates, long hours and replace American teenagers doing those jobs.
00:12:31.280and they make a lot of money at it and the State Department basically outsources all the oversight
00:12:38.340of these programs to the middlemen, to the staffing companies that are recruiting and
00:12:46.140placing these workers all over the country. More than, like I said, about three quarters of these
00:12:52.560cultural exchanges are just workers. We have people who come in as nannies, people who come
00:12:59.700is camp counselors. There used to be a lot of postdocs working on university campuses. That
00:13:06.520has been cut way back. Not as many Chinese research scholars coming anymore, thank goodness,
00:13:13.120because it was discovered that they were doing things like bringing in monkey brains and viruses
00:13:17.700and all kinds of stuff on these exchange visas. So the numbers have gone down a little bit,
00:13:23.720But it's still very, very high. You know, we need to get job opportunities for American teenagers.
00:13:31.560Lots of research shows that when young people start working as teenagers, that has benefits that carry through their adulthood and make them more self-sufficient and, you know, ready for a career.
00:13:45.880but a lot of these opportunities now are filled by cheap labor coming in from abroad through this
00:13:52.820exchange program which the state department should just um take yeah take a hatchet hang on
00:14:01.540i'm gonna hold you through the break i'm gonna get to the solution taking a hatchet to and shut
00:14:04.840this down my mother if you if you talk to her starting work as a teenager was like late
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00:14:37.700we're taking that away from the opportunity as we bring in cheap foreign labor you ever heard
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00:19:39.720If they ride hard on those sponsors who are making money off this program, then we can start to have some discipline if they actually did some oversight on it.
00:19:50.660But there's no reason the State Department should be running a nanny placement service or a lifeguard placement service.
00:19:58.580Just get rid of them completely, and this will open up great opportunities.
00:20:04.840If these staffing companies want to recruit people, they should be casting down their bucket where they are and working hard to find American teenagers to take these jobs, not people coming from China, Mexico, and Jamaica.
00:20:18.560No, 32,000 camps counselors, 10,000 babysitters or au pairs, whatever you want to call them, nannies, 100,000 others.
00:20:26.540Jessica, where do people go to get your content over at CIS and what's your social media, ma'am?
00:20:31.840everything we do is at cis.org and we're active on twitter i'm at at jessica v underline cis
00:20:42.580jessica amazing piece thank you we're going to push it out today make sure everybody reads it
00:20:49.020appreciate great thank you save american marriages ban foreign au pairs how about that we'll start
00:20:58.800there natalie g winters the floor is your you've got so many investigations going on so much
00:21:03.940research i'm gonna toss it to you because it's all inextricably linked ma'am the floor is yours
00:21:09.200i guess that save american marriages ban fang fang maybe that's the policy we need uh to adopt
00:21:15.800but this the swalwell story is explosive but i want the audience to remember that the buried
00:21:21.920lead of both the axios reporting on this and also in the chinese state media after she went back and
00:21:28.220became a hero over there, was that she was not an isolated incident. She bragged about getting a
00:21:33.600bunch of other congressional interns in various offices. So we need to get those names. We need
00:21:39.020to continue seeing how far this network went. And Steve, I would bring this back to a story that we
00:21:44.040broke just last week, which is that the U.S. Midwest China Association, I know that's a mouthful,
00:21:51.080which was the progenitor to a group now called the U.S. Heartland China Association, which is the
00:21:56.960kind of tip-of-the-spear MSS United Front Group that's lobbying these officials on the local
00:22:02.460level, too, to get China to be able to buy American farmland, they were running a congressional
00:22:07.280internship program through 2020. And you could see the kids that were involved. They were doing
00:22:12.060this in partnership with these Chinese spy organizations, putting them in these offices.
00:22:17.020Now, of course, some of the kids bragged. They claimed they were answering constituent phone
00:22:20.320calls. They were even talking about how they were writing speeches for the members. But they were
00:22:24.220in these buildings, right? They had access. This was a program, like I said, that ran
00:22:27.680through 2020. Now, I think the other interesting thing about the Swalwell stuff is that, you know,
00:22:33.840whether he wants to say he was a witting or an unwitting asset, it's almost more interesting
00:22:38.480if he were unwitting in the sense that the Chinese Communist Party, though having complete and utter
00:22:43.800control over this man, thought that it was in line with their strategic priorities to have him just
00:22:49.280be a bulldozer against Trump, right? If there's any better proof or confirmation that the Chinese
00:22:54.080communist party just wants to be an attack dog against president trump the fact that they didn't
00:22:58.880do anything to influence swallow they just spun him up right got him compromised and they didn't
00:23:03.220even necessarily need to leverage him i think is quite telling though obviously we know he uh he
00:23:08.200certainly would have would have collaborated but i want to link this to the sort of broader why
00:23:13.200two breaking stories on my sub stack today which you got to make sure you're subscribed to um the
00:23:18.780one that i put out earlier today you know we love to make these people famous um talking about
00:23:24.040the rise of China, certainly from a kinetic perspective. Obviously, we've seen military
00:23:30.200funded research, Harvard, that huge report came out just last week. But in this case,
00:23:35.180we're singling out someone whose name probably never should have been mentioned in the news.
00:23:38.920I didn't see him post or Stanford post any of this information. But Brian Cantwell, who was
00:23:45.000Stanford's aerospace chairman for years, he actually helped oversee the kind of review
00:23:51.900process for F-22s and F-35s, you know, government grants, that whole kind of thing, a key fixture
00:23:57.380in American defense development world. Well, he secretly has been lecturing multiple times at a
00:24:05.100blacklisted Chinese university. They've been blacklisted since 2001 for helping build up
00:24:10.120China's missile arsenal, but also their drones, their UAV technology. The Chinese write-up shows
00:24:17.540that he was bragging about quote the latest research has not yet yet been published that
00:24:21.720he was talking about if denver wants to put up the chinese language thing you can see brian
00:24:25.880cantwell there this chinese university um is bragging like i said a sanctioned university
00:24:31.460about how they have this man over multiple times to lecture to essentially well they should hang
00:24:36.100on hang on hang on i just i just want to they should brag this is equivalent to your four stars
00:24:42.000in your in fact this may be even higher than the four stars this guy is a major major major player
00:24:48.780uh natalie i mean this your story on this is shocking this is every bit as shocking
00:24:54.300as the flag officers because this guy is setting defense policy uh material acquisition in the
00:25:00.780highest and most sophisticated programs we have ma'am well exactly and i think there's kind of
00:25:05.900two main silos. One is you have the American researchers, American federal grant recipients,
00:25:13.020people working, in some cases, at the Pentagon going over for these weird professorships or
00:25:18.720limited lecture series, which in this case, it was part of a, quote, expertise introduction
00:25:23.080program. So it's part of these foreign talent programs. So that's part of it. And shout out
00:25:27.860to the Department of War. Just about an hour after I put my story out, they actually announced that
00:25:32.520they have issued formal notifications to 30 domestic academic institutions to initiate a
00:25:37.880comprehensive review of a lot of these foreign partnerships but then the other side of this
00:25:42.320steve which i could probably come on your show for like the rest of the year and just rattle off
00:25:46.660names um they'd be hard to pronounce but is these non-american citizens so they're chinese nationals
00:25:53.060who come over here get posted up with these universities get foreign grant money your tax
00:25:57.720dollars, not to like do research on fun things, literally to do military funded research. And
00:26:04.140then shortly after, or sometimes concurrently, we'll go back to China and literally do the same
00:26:09.300exact thing. I have a forthcoming story about someone who was a DARPA, Army and Air Force
00:26:13.480funded researcher, who concurrently then later went back to China, is now exclusively working
00:26:18.580for the Chinese Communist Party. And on his resume, literally brags about how he's now using
00:26:22.460that technology and expertise to, quote, break the American blockade on technological dominance.
00:26:29.360So this is like, again, like Swalwell. It's one small example, part of a broader thing. But the
00:26:34.280bigger thing here, and if we have time, we'll get into it after the break, is how this all converges,
00:26:39.920which is a forthcoming exclusive that Chinese state researchers are mapping how to target,
00:26:45.820quote, susceptible Americans and influence their votes. They're using these LLMs and these AI
00:26:51.980models to get all this public source information about Americans, particularly from social media
00:26:56.260posts and the voter files, right? All the publicly available information creating mock Americans and
00:27:03.320then figuring out the best way to literally change their votes. We'll get into the quotes. This is
00:27:07.520actual Chinese state funded research and improve their opinions of China. This is like how it all
00:27:13.480converges and what the point of what all this comes to it's further underscores what president
00:27:18.040trump was talking about in the white house and similarly other side of the coin they're building
00:27:22.800these extremely advanced ai models to run mock u.s elections creating basically fake americans
00:27:29.080in swing states doing presidential elections uh they would say to better understand democracy i
00:27:34.200don't think they give a you know what about democracy it's all about influencing elections
00:34:02.220Jeff Stein, we've had you on. You're one of my go-to guys about debt, deficits, the financial catastrophe that awaits us over at the Washington Post.
00:34:13.620You're now at Notice. Explain to the audience real quickly, what is Notice and why did Jeff Stein, such a prominent writer at one of the most powerful institutions in Washington, why did you shift over?
00:34:24.820Hi, you're giving me too much credit, Steve.
00:34:28.360Notice is a relatively new nonprofit newsroom, independent journalists, nonpartisan journalists,
00:34:35.980and they've hired really an incredible team, sort of as the Post has pulled back from local coverage.
00:34:43.360They've, I think, hired, you know, the best local team for covering Washington anywhere in the country
00:34:49.520and have supplemented it with a really great national White House congressional team.
00:34:56.940But for people who are in D.C. looking for Nats coverage, commanders coverage, mystics,
00:35:04.200we're really leading the field, and I'm really happy to be part of this team.
00:35:11.100Jeff, like I said, I think you're one of the most sophisticated guys on finance and on the debt.
00:35:19.520But your piece the other day that grabbed me, and I think a lot of it is that maybe this is not your beat all the time, and it took somebody from the outside to kind of rattle people about really what's going on.
00:35:31.020But I want you to talk to, you call it a vibe shift.
00:35:34.260You're actually out interviewing people at the Frontier Labs out in the Bay Area, and you've noticed a vibe shift.
00:35:39.540And this is about the situation with containment and exactly what's going on.
00:35:44.180As I say, this has now gone from a commercial issue to a national security issue.
00:35:48.600Just can you walk us through reporting on this and what you found?
00:35:52.440Yeah, one, you know, upside to not being at the Washington Post is there aren't, you know, 30 other tech reporters that are also competing on this story.
00:36:00.660And so it was relatively easy for me to perk up here and say, I want to look into this.
00:36:05.620And I think what I found pretty quickly, and we discussed this a little bit, but there's sort of a gap between what people who are seeing this every day have gotten accustomed to and what someone who has the benefit of fresh eyes like I do in this field sort of are being told.
00:36:25.360And it's, it's, the gap is, is enormous. And, you know, I started doing one conversation with one guy, he seemed like a little hysterical. And I thought, okay, well, maybe that's just one guy, you know, and then I talked to another guy, and another guy and sort of across the labs, and also, you know, people who are in academia and close to the labs and follow this stuff.
00:36:48.320well, you really get a sense of the sort of sense of shock and really hysteria that I think is not
00:36:58.820being sort of well communicated from the media to the public. The degree to which the people in the
00:37:06.380labs and really in just the last month or two have said the capacities of these things, the
00:37:11.940capabilities, and people have been understandably skeptical for a long time. But your audience,
00:37:16.780If you guys are interested and you don't believe me, Google the black hat hugging face report by OpenAI and just watch it.
00:37:24.180And you watch that report and that will really, really open your eyes to the extent to which these companies do not have a handle on the things that they are creating.
00:37:36.080And in this case, we can get into sort of exactly what happened.
00:37:39.620But the upshot was the security team at OpenAI had a situation that they were not aware of,
00:37:46.820where the agents that they created were talking to each other,
00:37:50.260basically hatching a plan to break out of the sandbox they were in
00:37:54.120and start messing around in other parts of the internet.
00:37:57.840And there wasn't even anything nefarious and intent about that.
00:38:00.560So it raised the question of like, when someone's actually trying to use this to hurt someone else,
00:38:09.620here's what's here's what's so disturbing is i want to go back to your beginning you were
00:38:17.420talking to people that work this problem every day the word you use is hysterical and these are
00:38:23.820people that don't have their hair on fire they these are professionals at the highest level
00:38:27.540been working this problem for years but over the last month or two something has changed you call
00:38:33.680it a vibe shift but when you're talking to people and interviewing once hysterical i go well hey
00:38:37.940maybe that's just one person i don't know none of the same level of hysteria what are they what
00:38:43.080are these professionals kind of hardened professionals in this industry what are they
00:38:48.300specifically hysterical about they are concerned i mean if you if you read the the hugging face
00:38:56.320report or watch it they are particularly concerned that these agents have figured out how to talk to
00:39:02.960each other and work together without the awareness and knowledge of the security team.
00:39:09.320And that doesn't mean, you know, my understanding is no matter what happens right now at this
00:39:15.400moment and this capability of the AI systems, they do not think that this is something that
00:39:21.000we cannot shut down and regain control of it if we figure out what's going on.
00:39:25.620But we are still so early in this process.
00:39:28.160This technology has only really recently been around.
00:39:32.560And the potential is for that capability to expand at really prodigious levels.
00:39:37.880In the last four years, we've gone from these tests scoring at maybe 50 or 40 percent of human capability to now being above human capability.
00:39:46.520Many of the sort of aptitude tests that they design, you know, can it do an LSAT?
00:39:50.980Can it do a, you know, take the bar exam?
00:39:53.020And so if that's the progress that's made in four years and it's already causing security incidents at least five in the last month where it's broken out of its sandbox and started interfacing with the outside Internet despite explicit instructions not to, then when that capability continues to massively expand, what happens to the ability to constrain it?
00:40:21.200So my understanding is, and from talking to these people, they are, the degree to which people are now identifying as preppers has had a massive, as you say, vibe shift in the last month.
00:40:33.120People who were formerly accelerationists, meaning they thought we should just make sure this technology goes as fast as possible, have moved in large but unquantifiable ways to being concerned about the technology and are moving into the prepper category.
00:40:49.680this is like a term of art in industry that's like someone who is building their
00:40:53.680hold it hold it hold it full stop full stop this is the power of the piece
00:40:59.940stein is one of the most respected writers about finance capital markets the the where the big
00:41:07.600boys play i mean the most important fundamental decisions you've now shifted you're into ai
00:41:12.820my patron supply is a huge sponsor of the worm they kind of were the people that invented the
00:41:18.960whole prepper category when you say in your reporting that and we've been called part of
00:41:24.900the modern luddites i've been called a decelerationist because we've asked a modicum of you
00:41:29.600know maybe a new atomic energy commission just basic stuff of fighting david sachs and getting
00:41:35.280out this you know the bills that give them total no guardrails all of we fight it every day and
00:41:39.600we're called every name in the book i just want you to repeat what you said about people who were
00:41:45.220accelerationist are now actually in their private lives becoming preppers, sir.
00:41:51.440And honestly, I spent a lot of time talking to people who were at the companies, but also people
00:41:56.860who have been warning about this technology for a long time. And they are saying, we are trying
00:42:02.420hard not to gloat, not to do too much I told you so, which you are free to follow or not follow
00:42:11.260as as as you want they are saying we are having more people coming to our perspective than we've
00:42:18.300ever had before just in the last month and a half um and and that is part of why the story is is
00:42:26.220really exciting to cover because there's there's so much movement in a story that has felt for a
00:42:30.780long time i think that people like people have been warning people have been warning people have
00:42:34.740been warning and nothing's really happening just in the last six weeks basically every single major
00:42:39.640lab has had a major security incident.
00:43:06.920We're into warning that if this has happened in the major labs with the best people in security, their top people, then we shouldn't be working on executive orders that give them more freedom.
00:43:21.860We now have to and we shouldn't be accelerating the Chinese Communist Party's involvement in any of this.
00:43:28.820We're coming quickly to a decision node in this entire issue.
00:43:33.560Short commercial break. Jeff Stein on the other side.
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00:49:08.240So we've been fighting communism for 100 years since the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917.
00:49:15.220Presently, modern Bolsheviks, the neo-Leninists, are coming very close to realizing their objective of a successful revolution in the United States.
00:49:26.120If things do not go our way in this November 26, and certainly if they don't go our way in 2028, we are on the realization of a communist revolution in the United States where they're going to be bringing in tens of millions of individuals, not just the 20 million plus of Biden, but they're going to be bringing in 60, 80 million people.
00:49:52.680Because what the communists have lacked, what they've lacked is mass.
00:49:57.280They've lacked numbers on the ground because their ideas are so bad, they have to, in essence, import populations that are going to give them the leverage they need.
00:50:08.740So the book goes through the explanation of why this is happening and what Americans need to do about it.
00:50:15.640and it's going to be great americans like natalie john assenton of course uh jessica vaughn yeah
00:50:22.240the audience everything uh of of your your show who are going to be able to ensure that this
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00:50:33.720and what's your social medium we're going to have you on every day to push this yeah amazon
00:50:38.540Barnes & Noble, where folks buy books and folks can, or Sky Horse Press, or folks can look me up
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