Bannon's War Room - Episode 5608： Mark Mitchell Breaks Out With Honest Polls; DSA Joins Forces With Communists

00:00:00.000 We know elections administrators and others who are in the world trying to watchdog our elections are doing these tabletop exercises right now, Katie, preparing for the eventuality of foreign misinformation on social media the day of the election.

00:00:12.200 You can bank on that being tried and for these disputes that arise after, including during the counts, during the sometimes sluggish counts in some states.

00:00:21.620 Local elections administrators are more prepared for this than many people think.

00:00:25.520 They have exercised on this. They are prepared for this. They've seen this in past elections.

00:00:29.420 they're more ready now than even they were in 2020.

00:00:32.280 I think a lot of this foreign interference that's being attempted, that's being studied,

00:00:37.280 even though the studies aren't being released, are things people are more on a war footing for now

00:00:42.380 than they were two years ago, four years ago and six years ago.

00:00:46.460 All right. So, James, war footing.

00:00:49.120 You have a number of officials who are prepared for this.

00:00:52.420 Can you prepare for whatever might come next, whatever Donald Trump and his allies might try to do,

00:00:58.760 either basing it on alleged voter fraud that they don't have the evidence for or stopping a count,

00:01:07.720 demanding a recount. Are they ready? I think they are. And you I'm normally the pessimist on your

00:01:13.440 panels. Look at you. But I'm with Scott here. I think that the the warning signs have been out

00:01:20.360 there for long enough. We've got a we've already been through the ultimate dry run. Right. I mean,

00:01:25.960 We experienced 2020. We experienced January 6th of 2021 and everything in between those two time periods.

00:01:32.760 And we have the same individual as president and all of the warning signs.

00:01:37.900 I mean, the bullhorn has been the megaphone has been used.

00:01:41.800 Nothing at this point can catch the election administration officials by surprise.

00:01:46.460 That doesn't mean that they won't try and it doesn't mean that it won't be difficult to keep up.

00:01:51.640 There is always the challenge that courts and officials can't keep pace with the executive branch.

00:01:57.320 Right. So tell me that how many lawsuits could be fired?

00:02:01.620 I mean, how much could happen all at once in order for courts not to keep up?

00:02:07.020 Well, in a particular jurisdiction and it couldn't.

00:02:10.420 And listen, we've seen there's plenty of evidence.

00:02:12.700 2000 in Florida and Georgia in 2020.

00:02:15.220 And if you end up in a situation where there is a state and the Senate or the House is hanging in the balance based on the results in that state, you are going to see every you are going to see the kitchen sink get thrown.

00:02:28.400 And that is going to be on the other hand. And because every all of the resources will go that direction for the individual trying to challenge.

00:02:35.600 On the other hand, the same, it's sports. The other side can play defense.

00:02:40.600 And I think that what will happen is that the system will hold in large part because of the people in it.

00:02:48.840 Just here's a question for you.

00:02:50.620 Could a state appeal to the Supreme Court ahead of time to say,

00:02:56.640 we want you to affirm that we have control of our elections,

00:03:01.020 That the federal government cannot walk in and try to seize ballots, cannot walk in to try to seize voting machines, cannot walk in and try to demand a vote be stopped or count be stopped.

00:03:14.640 Not to get professorial here.

00:03:16.860 Please do.

00:03:17.320 There is a ban in the federal system on what's in the courts on what's known as an advisory opinion, which is to say that when there is a lack of a case or controversy as defined under the Article three of the Constitution, federal courts lack jurisdiction and the Supreme Court in particular lacks jurisdiction to issue essentially what you're describing, an advisory opinion saying all of that.

00:03:39.340 That being said, there's plenty of precedent that already says that.

00:03:43.240 And there is a constitution which makes it abundantly clear that the executive has no rule.

00:03:48.600 So do you think that if an issue of whether the federal government can intervene in a state's election comes to the Supreme Court, which it could,

00:03:58.420 are you confident that the majority would rule in favor of the states?

00:04:04.820 Is the constitution so clear?

00:04:06.920 it would depend on the issue it would depend i mean this is not a dodge it's just an honest

00:04:13.300 answer it would depend on the nature of the issue and is there one that comes to mind that's

00:04:18.080 squishier than the rest well in bush v gore in 2000 you had a very conservative majority that

00:04:25.060 ruled essentially on equal protection grounds that the differential standards in the ballot

00:04:31.120 count right you can you can think back to looking through the magnifying glass and holding the

00:04:35.860 ballots up to the light and the different standards that were being used in different

00:04:39.360 jurisdictions, those different standards created in the in the eyes of the Supreme Court majority

00:04:44.200 an equal protection problem under the Constitution, which is federal and therefore created a federal

00:04:50.260 basis to intervene. But to your question, as to the general matter of whether the states are

00:04:55.500 and Congress are in control, as opposed to the executive, the Supreme Court is there.

00:04:59.780 It's Friday, 21 August, year of our 2026. We're going to get into we got Mark Mitchell. We're

00:05:04.840 trying to track down right now mark mitchell's going to join us got a new operation new polling

00:05:08.260 operation i'll talk about sophia karstens we had sophia on i think it was last saturday

00:05:13.560 and her piece got picked up it's amazing about the administrative state the intellectual roots

00:05:19.020 of it it got picked up by the grade zero hedge in its entirety we only got a chance to go through

00:05:23.780 one half of it so we're going to take some time at the bottom of the hour and have her do a reset

00:05:28.040 and go through the entire thing i want to start with i want to go back to trevor comps like here's

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00:10:36.320 Thank you, brother. Appreciate you for kicking us off. Thank you. I've got Mark Mitchell and

00:10:41.600 Sophie Carson's going to join us momentarily. I got Dr. Thayer. Good morning, Joe. Hardball

00:10:48.340 is commenting on some of the things we've been talking about. Let's hear it.

00:10:53.040 If they do that, they would have an effective counter to what Trump's probably going to be

00:10:57.380 up to, thanks to Steve Miller and that crowd, they're going to come up with something dirty.

00:11:01.860 They're going to try to make all Democrats into something like the Marxist wing of the

00:11:06.000 DSA.

00:11:06.700 They're going to try to make it really bad and they're going to make it nasty like they

00:11:10.140 did with the going after the trans kids in the last election.

00:11:13.540 Just remember, people on the sidelines of an NFL game, all of a sudden they're watching

00:11:17.500 this new ad in the third quarter of the game.

00:11:19.920 Where'd that ad come from?

00:11:21.280 What's all this about?

00:11:22.240 As Karl Rove told me, the Republicans are good at that last six weeks where they come up with something really nasty like Willie Horton.

00:11:30.520 By the way, his name was never Willie in his whole life.

00:11:33.200 They came up with the name Willie because they wanted to sound black.

00:11:36.220 Excuse me.

00:11:37.080 They are very good at confecting this stuff.

00:11:39.280 And I can see they can do something with the DSA and they're going to make them into real Marxists.

00:11:43.540 They're going to play the game.

00:11:45.100 Personally, I think AOC is as American as apple pie. 0.98

00:11:49.020 It won't work with her.

00:11:50.120 It may work with some others, but I think they're going to get nasty, and I think it's going to be a really great close. 0.93

00:11:59.000 Is Chris Matthews a dirty old man? 0.97

00:12:01.240 As American as apple pie. 0.99

00:12:04.220 Yo, Dr. Thayer, are you sitting there smearing the DSA as Marxists and communists, sir?

00:12:11.700 Hardly.

00:12:12.200 I think if the shoe fits where it, they're clearly Marxists.

00:12:16.460 They're Leninists at the end of the day, as is the inner party of the Democratic Party.

00:12:21.560 The DSA is a front organization.

00:12:23.600 It's not what's going on here.

00:12:26.100 It's the Democratic Party which is driving all of this and has been for decades.

00:12:32.260 So whatever, Chris Matthews can say what he wants, of course.

00:12:36.420 But at the end of the day, AOC is not as American as apple pie.

00:12:40.660 AOC is determined to replace the United States, to replace America with ultimately what's going

00:12:48.060 to be a communist tyranny, because we're in a revolutionary time in the United States,

00:12:52.740 which is very important, of course, for the War Room audience to recognize.

00:12:57.100 We are in a revolutionary time, and that's what's happening right now, today, which is why these

00:13:02.940 elections are so important. It's absolutely critical to turn out, to vote, to get involved

00:13:09.300 so that we're going to be able to defeat the communist revolution.

00:13:15.960 Where do they go?

00:13:16.860 Your new book kind of rips the veil off all this,

00:13:21.680 the 100-year war we've had against the Marxists and the communists.

00:13:25.740 Where do they go?

00:13:26.740 We've got about a minute.

00:13:27.800 Why do people need to read it now?

00:13:29.060 Where do they go to get it?

00:13:31.220 Steve, folks need to read it now because it explains what the threat is,

00:13:34.720 why we've gotten to this point.

00:13:36.700 Over 100 years, we fought communism better in the past.

00:13:40.360 When our identity was stronger, communists have gone sledgehammer blows against our identity to weaken it.

00:13:48.000 It also explains the solution, what Americans need to do, and that's to rediscover our national identity.

00:13:54.680 American identity is the antidote to communism, and it suggests ways people can get involved and books people can read,

00:14:02.940 including Whitaker Chambers' Witness and other books to really be involved in how this threat

00:14:09.280 developed and how Americans dealt with in the past and what they need to do in the future.

00:14:13.820 So folks can go to Amazon or to Barnes and Noble. And I'm Brad Theron X and Bradley Theron Getter

00:14:19.480 in Truth. Steve, thank you so much for writing the foreword to it. It's obviously very important

00:14:26.900 to really frame the book and to put it in context as you did yeah let's give chris matthew something

00:14:34.420 to really worry about dr bradley thayer thank you the hundred year war against communism thank you

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00:19:03.120 for strategic intelligence also understanding that is a man named mark mitchell now mark people a lot

00:19:10.180 of people just think you're some wild man on twitter you're actually a graduate of the united

00:19:14.680 states naval academy correct yeah everybody says look at mark he's upsetting me he must be taking

00:19:20.800 money from Qatar. And it's like, I was an Eagle scout in the church choir and youth group. I went

00:19:26.320 to the Naval Academy. It's like, what are we doing here, folks? No, I'm what, no, no, hang on, hang

00:19:33.060 on, hang on, hang on, hang on, stop. Don't, don't bury the lead. You were also a submarine or

00:19:37.120 correct. And Rick covers Navy. You were a submarine officer. Yeah. Strategic deterrence

00:19:43.260 was my field for five years. And you know, so when I talk about an Iranian nuke, I actually 0.99

00:19:49.180 know what i'm talking about okay hang on the elite of the elite in the navy i say the surface warfare 0.88

00:19:55.160 officer are not the navy seals there are great commandos okay the best of the best it's not the

00:20:01.420 it's not our pilots my kid brother's a navy pilot it's not even the jet not even top gun

00:20:05.200 it's it's not the in nelson's navy tradition the surface warfare officers of the great fleet the

00:20:11.400 destroyers and frigates you see in the persian gulf right now it is rickovers i made a film

00:20:17.240 with Michael Pack on Admiral Rickover.

00:20:19.660 I think the only real docudrama ever made with him.

00:20:23.220 I'm very proud of this because of what he did.

00:20:25.360 And I was actually in the Pentagon when he was forced to retire.

00:20:29.180 I don't know, at the age of like 98.

00:20:31.240 Rickover's Navy was special.

00:20:32.720 You had to be the elite of the elite of the elite.

00:20:37.700 So Mark Mitchell's not some wild man just wandering off the prairie.

00:20:40.800 He comes with a, you come with a tradition of excellence

00:20:44.000 in everything you've done, correct?

00:20:45.260 I mean, I don't want to beat my chest, but you might like this, Steve. Look, in my new studio, I got a B cam. Hold on. Can I switch to this? Oh, it's not. Let me do it. Well, I'll have to do it some other time. I got my I got my naval sword up there. I have my plebe summer hat. I got my mug from the USS Nebraska.

00:21:03.420 wow and uh you know what's cool about rickover is i worked in corporate america too if this guy was

00:21:08.600 running mckinsey this would be a very different country we would be a lot more productive we

00:21:12.720 would have a lot more corporate profits uh there would be a lot more objective decision making and

00:21:17.100 you can guarantee we would not be seeing woke dei stuff emma rickover was really one of the most

00:21:25.080 important one the giants of the 20th century that's where i made a film about him mark you

00:21:28.920 should know michael pack came to me and they did a a poll of americans i think back in the 90s or

00:21:33.980 2000s and only like two percent of the people even remembered who he was i go ricker was a giant so

00:21:39.500 that's where he did it why have you then with that tradition and that background of naval academy

00:21:46.080 eagle scout submarine or nuclear navy all of it why are you so controversial as a uh as a pollster

00:21:53.580 why do people come to me all the time and say mitchell's he's he's a wild man he's out of

00:21:57.600 control. Look what he's saying. Why did they say that Mark Mitchell? Well, you know, I've been

00:22:02.360 exposed to this industry and you obviously know the hijinks that go on and believe it or not,

00:22:06.420 they go on on both the left and the right. They generally go on for different reasons. The left

00:22:10.360 does it for the love of the game or for ideological reasons or because of their corporate advertisers.

00:22:14.880 The right, there's a lot more lobbying going on, a lot more money changing hands behind the scenes.

00:22:20.180 But over, over the break, while I was silenced, I read this book here,

00:22:23.440 uh, George Gallup's 1940 pulse of democracy. And he basically popularized the polling industry in

00:22:28.600 the United States. And he did it for a very clear reason. He wanted a referee for the American

00:22:33.340 citizen. He thought that democracy is going to be very hard and a big disparate, uh, Republic.

00:22:38.620 And he specifically called out all the deal-making that happens behind the scenes in smoke-filled

00:22:43.460 rooms. And you know what? I think he's right. In fact, I think it's even worse than when he wrote

00:22:47.720 this whole thing in 1940, because they had a lot of respect and went out and talked to people in

00:22:52.200 the field face to face and wrote down their words. And now there's basically people turning tricks

00:22:56.840 in order to get political action committee money. And I won't be a part of it. I'm in this for the

00:23:01.160 American people. And as far as I can tell you, based on the people I know in the industry,

00:23:04.740 it's really just me and rich bears that believe this. And it's like, I want to put out public

00:23:09.040 sentiment work that is not beholden to political parties or corporate interests, or is afraid of

00:23:13.880 pharmaceutical advertising or whatever. And if that's got uncomfortable information, like I'm

00:23:19.120 sorry, but it's not my job to shill for your political party. It's my job to get Americans

00:23:23.860 what they want. And what do they want right now? They basically want an economy that works for them

00:23:27.420 and they want a federal government that's been reformed. And they actually want like the runaway

00:23:32.240 spending to be reined in and they want to be put first for once. They want a domestic policy agenda.

00:23:36.640 And obviously we know this as I've talked about on your show, because that's why Donald Trump got

00:23:41.160 a mandate in 2024, an economic populist government reform, restore order mandate. And it was a big

00:23:47.860 coalition that came together in order to give us that people say today i'm gonna get back to

00:23:54.500 the second people say today that polling's basically turned into a psyop you saw the

00:23:58.520 situation with the on the democrat side they admitted afterwards hey we just made it up

00:24:03.280 and the media bought into it on the dsa candidates running away by 20 points in wisconsin and

00:24:08.340 michigan is polling deteriorated now in your eyes to basically most of it's just a psyop

00:24:14.960 polling is hard, but polling is also valuable and polling is not all knowing it's just data,

00:24:21.920 right? It's like if the election were held today and you have a lot of people on the right who

00:24:26.460 will selectively choose when to believe polling, some of them are pulling troglodytes and hate it

00:24:30.140 all. And it's like, okay, like fine be like that. That's it's not for everybody, but at the same

00:24:36.140 time, we can't not have polling because we would have like South American banana Republic

00:24:40.140 elections where you just absolutely have no idea if things are stolen or not.

00:24:44.980 Now, also, it's harder to pull in this day and age because there's a political realignment

00:24:48.500 happening.

00:24:48.960 A lot of people are upset with the political parties and the younger people are a lot less

00:24:53.060 ideological.

00:24:54.300 They shift with the wind.

00:24:57.840 And then at the same time, let's not forget that we still have problems with complete

00:25:01.920 mismatches and fundraising on different sides of the aisle on some of these races.

00:25:05.560 And we still have election integrity issues.

00:25:07.460 We still have massive runaway mail-in ballots.

00:25:09.420 And so I look at something like what happened in the Michigan Democrat primary and I say, okay, first it's a primary race, harder to pull. And, uh, you know, some good people went in there like Emerson and tried to predict it. And the DSA candidate underperformed Emerson polling by like 13 or 14 points. Well, it's like, show me what happened in Detroit. And I'll tell you like what I think happened in that race. And obviously he was also outspent 10 to one.

00:25:31.380 So there's some of this. Right. But it's at the end of the day, like you're going to get a pretty good look at what the national popular vote is going to be nationwide, like polling, like kind of works and continues to work.

00:25:42.800 And people who don't like the narrative will go out and cherry pick whatever data point they want to use to undermine their particular pollster.

00:25:49.960 Because, again, Emerson's a good pollster. But, yeah, they missed in the Michigan primary by like 14 points.

00:25:55.100 It happens. And, uh, you know, there's always surprises. Like nobody predicted that Collins

00:26:00.060 was going to get as many votes as he did in Florida. But at the end of the day, I come back

00:26:05.140 to the sentiment work, like the why. And it's like, okay, yes. Like I've, I've shown on your

00:26:10.660 show examples of how we know the left wing polling industry will fudge the numbers and try and create

00:26:16.060 some fake momentum for the Democrat establishment candidate, like Kamala Harris, or how they'll try

00:26:20.920 and do ops to undermine the anti-establishment candidate, spring of 2025 Trump and the 100-day

00:26:26.120 worst polling in history. But we can't also not acknowledge that if you look at any pollster,

00:26:31.180 apples to apples, if you go in to look at New York Times right now, compare Trump's current

00:26:36.900 approval rating today with where George W. Bush was exactly at this point in 2006, and you're

00:26:42.100 going to be surprised because they're basically going to track. And that's just the reality. I'm

00:26:47.000 not going to like lie or put a like sugarcoat that for people. What I want to tell you is why

00:26:52.360 and why that is, is because people wanted economic populism and there was a mandate to reform the

00:26:58.680 government. And that's why Trump got elected. And I got a chance to meet him as we've talked about

00:27:03.240 in November, almost a year ago. And I sat in that, uh, in the, in the, he was having lunch.

00:27:08.700 I sat in that room and I told him, you are going to lose the midterms in the fall, unless you can

00:27:13.560 refocus on single-minded laser focus on economic populism and visible brutal reform of the federal

00:27:21.940 government and if you stray from that it's not going to work and i think i was right

00:27:27.000 and i was very open about thinking the iran strike would be a bad idea yeah

00:27:32.600 you're good i'm gonna hold you through the break sophie carson's gonna dress also um

00:27:38.760 When President Trump says that or Besson says that they've been mandated now on fiscal consolidation and you got vote and Besson in two weeks going to present a plan to the president that has both revenue issues, have both revenue changes and cost changes.

00:27:55.320 That is what Mark Mitchell was talking about. A brutal, you know, restructuring of the U.S. government to get spending under control so we don't implode with republic ending debt.

00:28:05.100 Short commercial break

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00:31:07.940 overall theme a couple minutes of why you stepped away you've now got the honest poll your answer

00:31:12.920 to yourself you're going to be on a lot uh we love you for the fact you're brutally honest

00:31:19.000 uh you never pull your punches and you're a naval academy grad and a former naval officer i'll throw

00:31:23.780 that in too so give us the overarching thesis the theory of the case of why you did this and what

00:31:29.860 you're going to be presenting and then we'll have you on hopefully maybe tomorrow or over early next

00:31:35.520 week to go through some details of where we stand right now sir i really appreciate it and thank you

00:31:41.460 for having me back on. You didn't have to do this and very helpful. And I believe in independent

00:31:47.120 polling. And I think it's under attack. I think independence in many forms under attack. So much

00:31:52.000 money in politics. It's so easy to sell your integrity and the American people deserve better.

00:31:57.380 And so my goal is to pull the American people, ask the questions behind the politics. What do

00:32:02.720 Americans want? How can we get them more of that? How can the country move in the right direction?

00:32:07.560 And if it's uncomfortable, that's fine. I can be the whipping boy because I don't have to take money from a political action committee.

00:32:13.580 So I've worked for Rasmussen for five years. I think I did a lot of things to improve that business.

00:32:18.640 Our credibility increased quite a bit.

00:32:22.160 And also, at the same time, I was critical of the Trump administration because, in my opinion, in order for this coalition to stay together, Trump has to remember why he got elected and talk about that every day.

00:32:32.980 And that means not necessarily taking sides against some of these people that are part of that coalition.

00:32:38.240 Like, for instance, you have a median first time homebuyer age of 42 right now.

00:32:43.020 And so the house values are a real problem to people.

00:32:46.000 And so that should inform how you talk about people because it's a core part of economic populism.

00:32:51.140 People not even be able to afford the American dream.

00:32:54.320 And so I'll say that and I've been critical and I've said that.

00:32:57.020 And in my opinion, that's a valuable feedback loop that the right could use to get its messaging better.

00:33:03.660 And what unfortunately I think you're seeing right now is this expedient dog ate your homework kind of rush to slap something together for the midterms when they were warned almost a year ago that this was coming.

00:33:15.280 And not just that, some of the pollsters gave false information.

00:33:18.540 We're getting all that next week.

00:33:19.880 Where do they go?

00:33:20.400 honest poll where do they where do they go right now to find your channel your social media all of

00:33:26.980 it sir where they go on twitter i'm at honest pollster but i just started a new youtube channel

00:33:31.860 and i have a 24 minute video that's my story about why i left for ass muscle reports long story short

00:33:37.940 i was told that my criticism of the trump administration was potentially unhelpful to

00:33:42.180 the business because it was going to endanger the opportunity of collecting money from a trump

00:33:46.520 line political action committee and i don't play like that i will be funded by the american people

00:33:51.240 advertisers subscribers so go to at honest poll on youtube please join uh sink or swim time and

00:33:58.060 we're going to put the american people first thank you brother appreciate you appreciate

00:34:04.860 everybody go over there it's totally free sign up thanks sophia carston i'm always so proud when we

00:34:12.380 find something in our we're going around looking for the news and we see somebody we've known for

00:34:16.200 a long time and they've written a piece we go wow this thing's amazing and brownstone's got it

00:34:20.280 we have you on and then the great zero hedge which i think is one of the best sites in the world

00:34:26.640 puts it up in its entirety and puts it as a feature story and that's what happened deep

00:34:31.520 capture the administrative state's intellectual organs hit uh origins excuse me hit reset let's

00:34:38.200 talk we got time enough now to go through the whole thing uh what inspired you to write this

00:34:43.280 And what are the takeaways people should understand today in the fight that we've got for this republic-ending debt, the Marxist-Jihadist coalition that's coming after us?

00:34:54.260 Why is this article, what does it tell us, and why is it going to help us in this fight, ma'am?

00:34:59.140 Right.

00:34:59.740 Well, you actually just said it out loud.

00:35:02.540 So we are in the last mile of the long march that I describe in the article.

00:35:08.120 And the point being, really, they're already at the helm of our institutions, which have quietly shifted to become the ruling entities, not our elected officials.

00:35:19.680 And it's no longer just institutional.

00:35:23.120 So candidates and elected officials at the state and federal levels have provable links to the CCP and terrorist organizations and CARE and DSA, especially in certain key states.

00:35:35.080 So what they've done is they have already laid the pipe. All they have to do is turn on the water.

00:35:41.860 So I'm going to kind of skip to the last chapter in this choose your own adventure. And I'm going

00:35:47.080 to go ahead and say the quiet part out loud here because this is a hostile takeover. And the problem

00:35:51.880 that people are afraid to talk about is the communists, not Democrat socialists, call them

00:35:57.780 what they are, have linked arms in the foxhole with the jihadists because the end of me of my

00:36:03.540 enemy is my friend. And this is where this leads. The Islamification and communist takeover of this

00:36:10.200 country and the obliteration of our way of life. All the details right now in the zeitgeist are 0.98

00:36:16.420 noise. Everything besides this issue is deck chairs on the Titanic. And that's not speculation.

00:36:22.000 It's historical precedent. Look at the UK. In fact, look at Dearborn, Michigan. The Cuban

00:36:27.420 missile crisis never ended. It only changed form. And before you say all these countries aren't

00:36:32.640 allies, it doesn't matter. These entities might spit at each other politically, but global politics

00:36:38.940 is just a game of monopoly to them. Above all that, it's a business and they all want a seat

00:36:45.300 at the table. So they will play nice in the sandbox to get a piece of that pie. And, you know,

00:36:51.540 funding wise, by a various conduits, all roads of this arm of the octopus lead to the CCP in Iran. 1.00

00:36:59.620 And this is not all Muslims. I want to be very clear. This is the jihadists. In fact, they're brutally slaughtering other Muslims who are not jihadists. But they are pushing a psyop designed for poor Soviets. And the embarrassing part is that so many educated Americans are falling for it. 0.99

00:37:17.920 and the problem is and it's very difficult this is not an org chart with one guy at the top twirling

00:37:25.260 his mustache in the mirror every morning this is a net around the globe it's a system and we have

00:37:31.340 to be strategic if we're going to carver matrix our way out of this because arguing over the deck

00:37:38.420 chairs will spell the end of our way of life this is not friendly this is a hostile takeover

00:37:44.140 And the problem is that people are believing the lie.

00:37:50.540 You know, during the Holocaust, there was a core tenet that was printed on the materials and disseminated among the participants.

00:37:58.200 And it's actually it's on the wall at Yad Vashem.

00:38:00.800 The people going to their deaths must be deceived until the very end.

00:38:05.480 They built fake railway platforms, ticket windows, clocks, even flowers and orchestras to trick arriving prisoners into thinking it was a train station.

00:38:15.800 Victims were told they needed to hand over valuables for safekeeping, and then they were given receipts.

00:38:22.240 The primary goal was to maintain the illusion right up until the doors of the gas chambers were locked in order to avoid costly uprisings and to keep the killing process orderly and efficient.

00:38:33.560 it's a trick and it's a trap and we're being led as americans that mask will come off when the

00:38:42.080 deception part is over once the doors are locked that's where we're standing right now in this

00:38:49.700 country and the reason i wrote the piece long short way of answering your question is because

00:38:56.440 Because my data suggests that if we can get 35% of Americans to understand this, really understand this, where we were 100 years ago, where we are now, why, and who's at the helm, we have a shot at turning the ship around.

00:39:21.240 Why 35%?

00:39:23.140 What, what, what, what leads you to that mathematical number that if we have a hardcore base of 35%, why is that, why, why can that lead us to victory?

00:39:33.560 There's a lot of data that shows that smaller numbers, you know, there's three to 7% in some way, in some cases, there's other polling and other data that shows that 25%.

00:39:50.260 but it's missing pieces. So you have to sort of overlap to cover the holes. And if you overlap

00:39:59.340 all the data that exists, that shows that over 33%, which I pushed the needle a little bit more

00:40:08.740 at 35, if you can get that number of people to link arms in the foxhole, and we have to do what

00:40:15.720 they're doing. Everybody right now in this country is trying to find their team instead of trying to

00:40:20.960 find their village. We have to stop being one issue voters. We have to stop caring that somebody

00:40:26.240 doesn't wear the full uniform of crazy on either side or whatever full uniform we think they should

00:40:32.440 wear on every single issue. And we need to link arms with people who are value driven, not issue

00:40:41.320 driven. And the data that I have suggests that 35% of the population is enough of a tipping point

00:40:52.040 to where it's not scary for the remaining percentage that you're never going to reach

00:41:00.180 the fringe on either side, but the movable middle, it's scary for the movable middle because there's

00:41:07.680 so much propaganda and there's so much pushback and it's costly that we, we just watched during

00:41:13.020 the pandemic, how costly it is to stand up, uh, when the majority has different ideas. So I, it's

00:41:21.640 my, it's my strong opinion that if we can get 35% of the population to stand strong, Lawrence of

00:41:29.760 Arabia style. I do think that we have a shot at that movable middle linking arms with us in the

00:41:37.580 foxhole because the enemy that we're facing is very powerful. It is unlimited resourced and it

00:41:45.600 is already in our institution. Can you reverse? This is Roger Kimball and the book he wrote,

00:41:52.780 The Long March, that often cloured Piven and what they've, at Linsky, what they've tried to done.

00:41:58.140 The 100th year or ever since the Frankfurt School came here, I guess, in the 20s and 30s from Germany, basically, from Europe, that long march, you said we're in the last mile of that.

00:42:10.380 Can 35% of the population stop that long march and begin to reverse it?

00:42:16.480 Is that what you're saying?

00:42:18.160 I think that that is the number that is needed.

00:42:21.920 And yes, I'm not saying it's a foregone conclusion that we're going to win this one.

00:42:27.380 But what I am saying is that if we do nothing, it's a foregone conclusion that we will lose.

00:42:33.460 And I do think that if we have enough people, what it does is it shines a light.

00:42:39.500 I don't think I'm not delusional.

00:42:41.940 I don't think we're going to sink their ship.

00:42:44.540 But if we can shine a bright enough light on enough of it at key opportunities and times,

00:42:52.720 opportune times, like elections, if we can shine lights, the cockroaches will scatter to avoid

00:42:59.480 having the light shown on them. And that is an opportunity. Those moments are an opportunity.

00:43:04.720 So between now and the midterms is an opportunity. If people are aware and they know what to look for

00:43:11.380 and they know what they're looking at and they know what they're seeing, you know, who's not

00:43:15.080 confused about what's happening in this country, anyone from Eastern Europe, anyone from China,

00:43:21.300 Anyone from any South American country who remembers our military industrial complex steaming in there to exploit resources by enslaving people in debt.

00:43:29.680 So they're not confused at all because they know what they're seeing.

00:43:33.320 They know what they're looking at. 0.99

00:43:34.500 It's Americans who they're not stupid. 1.00

00:43:37.440 They don't know what they're seeing. 1.00

00:43:41.080 Sophia, hang on for one second.

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00:47:22.240 So let's go and play it.

00:47:22.980 I think if they do that, they would have an effective counter to what Trump's probably

00:47:27.180 going to be up to, thanks to Steve Miller and that crowd, they're going to come up with

00:47:31.020 something dirty. They're going to try to make all Democrats into something like the Marxist

00:47:35.620 wing of the DSA. They're going to try to make it really bad, and they're going to make it nasty

00:47:39.980 like they did going after the trans kids in the last election. Just remember, people on the

00:47:45.400 sidelines of an NFL game, all of a sudden they're watching this new ad in the third quarter of the

00:47:49.840 game. Where'd that ad come from? What's all this about? As Karl Rove told me, the Republicans are

00:47:55.500 good at that last six weeks, where they come up with something really nasty, like Willie Horton.

00:48:00.740 By the way, his name was never Willie in his whole life. They came up with the name Willie

00:48:04.480 because they wanted to sound black. Excuse me. They are very good at confecting this stuff.

00:48:09.220 And I can see they can do something with the DSA, and they're going to make them into real

00:48:13.180 Marxists. They're going to play the game. Personally, I think AOC is as American as

00:48:18.460 apple pie. It won't work with her. It may work with some others, but I think they're going to 1.00

00:48:22.620 get nasty and I think it's going to be a really great close. Sophia Carson, there you are. You're

00:48:31.560 calling all this Marxist, all this deep communist. And you're saying that, that, uh, AOC and all

00:48:35.940 these all American as apple pie people are, you know, you're smearing them. You are the, you're 0.72

00:48:41.500 the weapon for the last six weeks. In fact, that's why zero hedge, uh, promoted your piece,

00:48:46.340 Your response, ma'am. These aren't the droids you're looking for. I do think that nobody has 0.93

00:48:54.760 to make anything up. They're doing a very good job of proving our point for us. I don't I don't

00:49:02.880 really know what that was. It was a lot of emotional anecdotal speculation. I didn't hear

00:49:08.480 any any. It was calling. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. They're very. Hang on. They're very

00:49:14.040 sophisticated morning joe they were all over now trump the whole debt you know the guardian says

00:49:18.840 uh debt reaches 40 trains democrats outraged right now they're trying to get ahead of you

00:49:24.700 they see exactly what you're doing and explain to people the long march explain what these people

00:49:29.200 are not just your father's progressives or your father's democrats that these guys are actually

00:49:34.940 marxists and they come from a long lineage of 100 years ago and that chain of being that chain of

00:49:40.660 title goes down to the current period. And this is what happened. They're smart. They understand

00:49:45.280 what Sophia Carson's is doing to expose this. And they're right now saying, she says there's 35%.

00:49:51.380 We want to make sure there's under 10% that buy this. And that's the way, not just when we win

00:49:56.160 elections, but that's the way we continue to control. So your response to that, ma'am?

00:50:01.500 Let's ask the wolf where to keep the sheep safe for the night. I mean, it's ridiculous. And I feel 0.99

00:50:08.160 like it's very transparent and I don't feel like Americans are falling for it. I really don't. I

00:50:12.460 think people are smarter than that. I mean, I understand that we certainly need to hold the

00:50:17.100 line, but I don't think people are that dumb where we just believe the wolf telling us where 0.93

00:50:23.440 everyone's safe for the night. That's ridiculous. So Sophia, where do people go to get more of your 1.00

00:50:29.480 writings? Where can they, if you're going to give speaking engagements, where do they go to see you

00:50:34.320 in person uh i believe you're you're headquartered out in california the people i am in california

00:50:39.880 where do people get your writings i am on twitter at at sophia my name s-o-f-i-a j london like the

00:50:50.100 city at sophia j london i am on sub stack at sophia karstens my name and my organization is

00:50:57.980 It's Spirit of 1776, and that is thespiritof1776.net.

00:51:05.780 Thank you.

00:51:06.420 So fantastic.

00:51:07.160 Get all your writings.

00:51:07.840 Thank you for joining us again.

00:51:08.920 And congratulations that the great Zero Hedge profiled your piece in its entirety.

00:51:15.600 Excellent.

00:51:16.520 And I'm apparently an enemy of the DSA badge of honor.

00:51:23.160 I think they get that.

00:51:25.420 Thank you, ma'am.

00:51:26.720 Also, Dr. Jeffrey Tucker and all the folks over at Brownstone.

00:51:31.800 What a great group.

00:51:33.300 Okay, Ben Harnwell is going to pick it up from here.

00:51:36.380 I'm going to be back tomorrow morning, 10 a.m.

00:51:38.500 The Saturday show is going to be quite special.

00:51:40.580 Make sure you don't miss it.

00:51:41.960 So much going on.

00:51:43.060 I want to thank the Real America's Voice team that always pitches in and helps us with the Saturday show.

00:51:50.460 Wow, what a week.

00:51:52.240 Every week going forward is going to be more and more intense.

00:51:54.280 You understand that, right? With this massive fight we're going to have at the midterms and beyond.

00:52:01.140 Because remember, we're fighting to hold serve by a couple of seats in the House and maybe, I don't know, a tie in the Senate, maybe one seat in the Senate or a tie so J.D. can break the ties.

00:52:12.620 What does that mean? It's a long fight after that.

00:52:16.700 And that's if we hold serve. If you don't hold serve, Fort Apache, the White House, not so sure they're ready for that over there. I don't think so. That's why this fight's got to go on now.

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