Bannon's War Room - August 22, 2026


Episode 5609: Is Our Economy A Runaway Train


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00:00:00.000 Now to the war with Iran. State media is reporting this morning that Iran will now allow Iraqi oil
00:00:06.120 tankers to travel through the Strait of Hormuz. The number of boats moving through the critical
00:00:11.720 waterway increased by 27 percent this past week. That's according to CNN analysis of information
00:00:17.620 from a UK marine trade agency. But shipping levels are still at just 20 percent of the
00:00:24.340 pre-war average. Meanwhile, China is rejecting President Trump's so-called economic D-Day
00:00:29.640 threat against Iran and is vowing now to economically punish countries who do business
00:00:36.140 with Tehran. China says it's not the solution. Secretary of State Marco Rubio is working on
00:00:42.740 diplomacy with Oman after the president threatened to bomb the country over its negotiations with
00:00:49.260 Iran. Seems to be a deal that's been struck between Baghdad and Tehran to allow Iranian oil
00:00:56.000 tankers to pass through the strait and then deliver their oil. It's obviously going to be
00:01:00.480 a huge economic benefit to Iran and supplies that are needed also to Iraq. It appears to be a deal 0.98
00:01:08.920 made between the chief negotiator in the Iran talks, Mohammed Ghalibaf, and the speaker of the
00:01:14.840 Iranian parliament between him and his counterpart in Baghdad. What I think interestingly for context
00:01:22.100 though here is that is obviously an economic benefit to Iran. But we are talking now about
00:01:28.680 an economic D-Day, which the president announced earlier this week, that is likely to include
00:01:34.660 sweeping sanctions on Iran and the Iranian economy. We're hearing now via Reuters that
00:01:42.900 Scott Besson, the Treasury Secretary, is likely to give a press conference on Monday around 2 p.m.
00:01:49.040 Eastern time. We're hearing that may well be the announcement of the sanctions or perhaps a timetable.
00:01:54.200 Details are not quite clear. And as you rightly said, these sanctions are now being criticized by China,
00:02:02.680 a huge ally of Iran who have said that they do not fit the interests of any party.
00:02:09.860 And Iran, for their part, too, Abbas Aragshi, the Iranian foreign minister, has said that any economic sanctions would be a doubling down, failed policy, and that the U.S. is facing surging interest costs.
00:02:23.600 All of that is obviously true when it comes to interest costs.
00:02:27.860 We've seen now that a gallon is now trading at a dollar higher than it was this time last year.
00:02:35.880 But I think, Victor, in the context of all of this, we need to remember that economic sanctions are not guaranteed to work.
00:02:44.140 The Iranian economy has been functioning and serving its 90 million populace for many years under heavy economic sanctions.
00:02:52.440 So the question remains, what will these new ones, this D-Day, really deliver both to the U.S. and on the Iranian people? 0.90
00:02:59.960 Did you direct Secretary Betten to intervene in the bond market? 0.57
00:03:04.380 No, not at all.
00:03:05.880 Now, he's a very capable man. He wanted to do it. He's very good at it.
00:03:09.780 He has a good touch, very good natural touch for the bonds and interest.
00:03:14.200 And he did that. Yeah.
00:03:15.740 The EELs have come back up since then. Have you talked to him about another type of intervention?
00:03:20.320 Is that something he will be doing?
00:03:21.480 We have many types of intervention. That's one.
00:03:24.140 The ultimate intervention is our military. And if we have to use that, we will. Yeah.
00:03:29.220 Will there be a sustained, comprehensive schedule of these sanctions to follow the bellicosity from the White House about this economic D-Day?
00:03:41.500 The conservative editorial board at The Wall Street Journal doesn't seem convinced.
00:03:45.120 Here's what they write.
00:03:46.140 After six months of war with Iran, President Trump has a credibility problem.
00:03:50.860 His blustering threats alternating with claims of imminent peace and victory are doubted by friends and foe.
00:03:57.620 By now, the world will have to see it to believe it.
00:04:01.740 Really, whether the tremendous economic consequences the president's promising,
00:04:07.800 that kind of starts and ends with what they do with China.
00:04:11.660 Outline that decision that's happening.
00:04:15.540 Well, Victor, good to be with you. 0.92
00:04:17.720 A few things that I think are moving here, and you identified the most important one, which is China.
00:04:23.920 Xi Jinping comes to Washington in just a month.
00:04:27.620 It's his first trip in more than a decade.
00:04:31.000 And the president wants this to be a very successful trip, building on his own trip in May to Beijing.
00:04:39.440 If that trip begins with secondary sanctions on the Chinese economy, because they are the single largest purchaser of Iranian oil, they're going to have a problem.
00:04:52.180 And I think the first question is, can the president enforce these new sanctions, whatever they look like, in a way that does not undermine the most important relationship he's got with the world's, between the world's largest and second largest economy?
00:05:09.200 I think the second problem he's got, and I think the Wall Street Journal editorial you quoted from there, Victor, gets at this, is that the president now has turned economic sanction timing on its head.
00:05:23.740 Usually you start with diplomacy, you ratchet up economic sanctions in order to reinforce that diplomacy, and you've got the ultimate threat that you might go to war if you felt that your interests so required it.
00:05:38.200 he's now in the position where he's already gone to war it hasn't worked and so the iranians have
00:05:45.780 every reason to try to sort of drag this out through the midterms and make the pain as high
00:05:52.480 as they can for the united states and for the president saturday 22 august in the year of our
00:06:00.640 lord 2026 our favorite show of the week um we're going to start with a very special guest so two
00:06:07.080 things going on in the world of economics and power and capital markets all that you have the
00:06:13.840 now proposed unrestricted economic warfare of uh the warlord over treasury scott beset
00:06:22.820 that is going to be addressed as we said the last couple days and supposedly at a press conference
00:06:28.540 sometime reuters reporting 2 p.m eastern daylight time sometime on tuesday of which he's going to
00:06:34.100 walk through economic d-day also two weeks basically i think from today or yesterday
00:06:42.960 you're going to have fiscal consolidation a report by russ vote and scott besant to the president
00:06:50.220 about both i guess they're talking about revenue enhancements and spending cuts a plan to
00:06:58.220 calm down the bond market and show that we're not going to be on a perpetual two trillion dollar a
00:07:03.480 year deficit has to be refinanced because the bond market is uh is not responding to the
00:07:11.280 intervention uh scott had this somewhat but remember the bond market's massive and a couple
00:07:16.480 of billion dollars saying hey we're gonna buy we're gonna do this in september i don't think
00:07:22.380 is going to uh is going to work over the long run the the problem we've got is that we have
00:07:27.480 too big of deficits we have too much spending too little revenue uh and you can't have 40 trillion
00:07:33.680 in debt and keep adding two trillion a year when you have to refinance because a lot of it's
00:07:37.800 short you have to refinance one third of it um and it just doesn't work crowds out capital
00:07:44.800 interest rates are exploding as we said the world is getting ready for it has 300 trillion dollars
00:07:50.800 in debt roughly everywhere getting ready for the world's largest margin call the united states the
00:07:56.560 business model of our country is a highly leveraged bet on top of a highly leveraged
00:08:01.460 bet on artificial intelligence at the hyperscaler or AI level, the corporate level, on massive
00:08:10.780 productivity increases, which gives you economic growth without the concomitant massive layoff
00:08:17.380 of STEM workers. So I've asked to join us this morning, kick things off. A gentleman that's
00:08:22.720 really taken this seriously since i first met him in fact i think of all the conservative sites
00:08:27.820 which are terrific and do a great job his uh maniacal focus on debt deficit spending you know
00:08:35.420 interest rates capital markets has been one of the things that sets set aside um citizens free
00:08:41.700 press kane joins us uh kane just your let's talk about the process and the path i'm gonna get to
00:08:48.040 some of the history of how you get involved here in a moment um but you've got scott besant coming
00:08:53.440 out with unrestricted economic warfare on monday an announcement obviously that that's different
00:08:59.240 than what we've done to date that will include massive secondary sanctions for quote-unquote
00:09:03.500 our native our nato allies uh also china um it has to be that all dealing with oil uh the trading
00:09:12.560 of oil the support for uh for iran there'll be i'm sure discussion about currency because he broke
00:09:18.280 he brought their currency to the knees in january also banks our other allies especially uae in
00:09:25.160 dubai um have been the money laundering center for the persian um the persian mullahs now that
00:09:32.740 they have a military junta in charge there's still the money laundering of that put in perspective
00:09:38.160 And what we got, we got two weeks from that, we're going to have fiscal consolidation, fiscal consolidation by Russ Vogt and Scott Besson is going to be spending cuts, all that.
00:09:47.400 Your your your thoughts that now we've pivoted to what makes the world work cash money, brother.
00:09:53.900 Yeah, it's about time, man. I can't. This is dangerous of you, by the way, to have me on the show.
00:09:58.760 You never know what I'm going to say about the debt and deficit. You're right, dude.
00:10:03.020 It's the only reason. I mean, I'm not going to say it's the only reason I launched Citizen Free Press,
00:10:07.320 But it's the only issue I've ever cared about in politics. I got radicalized on the national debt. You talk about how it took us 200 years to get to $1 trillion. I got radicalized right when we were at about $2 trillion. So that's well over 30-some years ago. No, hell, it's like 38 years ago. And that's the only issue because it's the only existential issue.
00:10:29.900 You've tried to make the point to people, look, we have the world's reserve currency, which sort of protects us from a total bond vigilante blow up.
00:10:37.240 But the point is, you know, the day is getting closer. And let me ask, you know, before I go too much further, would you have ever thought, brother, that we could make it to 40 trillion on the national debt and 1.2 trillion a year in interest without the bond blow up already having happened?
00:10:57.700 Like I tried to see this ahead of time, again, going back 30 years ago and 20 years ago in 10 and imagining, you know, when the sort of tipping point, the point of no return.
00:11:08.880 And I did not think we would make it all the way to 40 trillion and 1.2 trillion in interest before people are paying attention.
00:11:15.360 What about you on that?
00:11:17.360 Well, Bank of America just put out the report.
00:11:21.940 They're assuming it could be 50 trillion in three years.
00:11:24.520 I think this goes back to this discussion.
00:11:29.160 They brought up this thing from J.D. from a couple of years ago about having a discussion about being the prime reserve currency.
00:11:35.360 And we've always said, hey, maybe we have to eventually have a national debate about whether you want to be the prime reserve currency or not because it comes with tremendous benefits.
00:11:45.460 But it also has obligations, like in the Persian Gulf with the petrodollar.
00:11:49.660 Here's reality right now.
00:11:51.120 The reason we've made it and you haven't had an explosion, although that's starting, is that the world up till now has needed dollars, right?
00:12:01.560 Now that you're devaluing those dollars and the purchasing price of the dollar is dropping so precipitously, the BRICS nation started at saying, hey, maybe we got to come up with some alternative because the elites in the United States,
00:12:16.680 You know, the foreign devils in the United States are devaluing this, and we look at this, and we're giving them physical assets like copper and tin and oil, and they're giving us a greenback that gets devalued.
00:12:30.120 This is my point about the Los Angeles Lakers. 0.98
00:12:32.860 It didn't go – the Lakers did not increase intrinsically in value $2 billion in a year before the insurance guy got forced to sell it.
00:12:42.120 It's the dropping of the purchasing power.
00:12:46.000 kane your thoughts on that before we go to break yeah well so you know when you talk about reserve
00:12:52.540 currency you know what saved us for the last 20 years is what's the freaking alternative
00:12:57.660 there was a while i remember i was in grad school at at pepperdine and they were talking about the
00:13:02.760 euro it was right after the eu got put together and they thought that that currency could maybe
00:13:06.720 but it obviously it hasn't they were filled with deficits and that you know the entire continent's
00:13:11.580 joke and the world would never accept, you know. So in other words, and the Chinese yuan hasn't
00:13:17.340 come through. So there hasn't been an alternative to the dollar. And there still really isn't.
00:13:21.400 You talk about the BRICS. Obviously, that's been the most serious attempt at trying to create a
00:13:26.080 gold-backed currency or some other alternative currency. And there have been various contracts
00:13:30.300 between Iran and different countries in the Middle East that have been settled in
00:13:33.620 currencies other than the dollar. But for the most part, the dollar is still, what, 63% of
00:13:39.200 all global settlements and that's that stayed pretty much the same it's getting i'm watching
00:13:43.900 the clock i know i know i got a couple minutes so before i get into this and we talk about this
00:13:48.400 fiscal you know the fiscal consolidation let's remind people okay yes trump has had two trillion
00:13:54.460 deficits but there's a reason and let's not forget that democrats will spend us into oblivion they 0.98
00:14:00.280 believe in this aoc and these idiots believe in this concept called mmt modern monetary theory 0.87
00:14:05.900 They literally believe that because of this sort of global reserve currency stuff, that the deficits could be unlimited and the Fed could monetize an unlimited amount of our debt. 0.98
00:14:17.120 I don't want to get too much into the Fed monetization.
00:14:19.940 Hang on. Hang on. This hang on. This this is all great.
00:14:24.280 We're going to take a short break. Kane is with us. Modern monetary theory.
00:14:27.720 They're saying, hey, unlimited deficits, run it up.
00:14:30.360 And if it gets too high, you just raise taxes to accommodate it.
00:14:35.900 The reason you need to be the prime reserve currency now, if we took it away or if we dropped it, I don't know if we could drop it, we beat Argentina.
00:14:44.220 You couldn't finance the $40 trillion.
00:14:46.740 You couldn't finance the one-third and you have to refinance.
00:14:49.780 Interest rates would explode, ladies and gentlemen.
00:14:54.240 We kind of stuck with it, so we got to see it through.
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00:17:31.900 to philip patrick and the team kane you've come about this he said for the last 30 years let's
00:17:35.940 play a short clip people very few people realize that at one time citizen kane was actually a male
00:17:43.840 model anchorman for cnn let's go ahead and play it mining company says a mob of drugged black
00:17:50.260 miners under the influence of a witch doctor attacked fellow miners crossing the picket line
00:17:55.720 in an industry-wide strike in johannesburg one miner was reported killed in the attack
00:18:01.220 gary hart senior withdrawing from the 1988 presidential race refuses to comment today
00:18:09.180 on speculation he's rejoining it.
00:18:12.040 Hart cut his vacation short in Ireland this morning
00:18:14.520 and airline officials say he flew to London.
00:18:17.440 Reporters besieged Hart in Ireland
00:18:19.240 after his former campaign manager predicted
00:18:21.600 he would re-enter the Democratic presidential campaign
00:18:24.660 within two months.
00:18:27.780 That's enough.
00:18:29.000 Kane, hang on, far be it from me
00:18:32.160 for Stephen K. Bannon to say someone over time
00:18:35.140 looks like they've been rode hard
00:18:36.520 and laid up wet once too often.
00:18:38.340 but man talk to us about your cnn days you look like a male model right there which cnn
00:18:43.460 used to ted turner was like trump that guy's from central casting let's hire him talk to me about it
00:18:49.380 dude dude that was yeah that went on way too long that clip yeah man it was 1980
00:18:56.020 it was the summer of 87 that was the iran contra summer and ted turner was trying to save money
00:19:03.520 at every point so he used interns for all jobs that were union jobs at abc cbs and nbc if you
00:19:10.700 were a college kid trying to get an internship you couldn't touch the camera you couldn't touch
00:19:15.300 the teleprompter you couldn't write any stories but if you were if you were brash and aggressive
00:19:19.880 like me at age 20 you could go into so i was at cnn washington i got accepted i also applied for
00:19:26.540 the cnn sports internship in atlanta and i was doing all this while studying abroad in granada
00:19:31.860 spain my third year from uva so i'm like i'm applying for doing my first resume ever i ever
00:19:38.980 i applied to the to atlanta i got that was nick charles and lou i can't remember the who who did
00:19:44.880 it with nick charles but so i got accepted for atlanta accepted for dc and i accepted dc because
00:19:49.780 of a chick there was this girl that i loved from uva that i had just met like right before leaving
00:19:55.380 for Spain and she lived in Alexandria so that's how I ended up in DC instead of sports in Atlanta
00:20:01.940 and uh first day met I was in the studio with with Bernard Shaw so I worked with Bernard Shaw
00:20:07.820 that whole summer it was 10 weeks uh I I ran camera I ran teleprompter and and there was
00:20:14.100 like a 28 year old guy who who was one of the chief writers and he could tell that I could
00:20:19.080 write so he taught me how to write stories so I wrote a few stories that got on the air which
00:20:23.360 other interns didn't do. Anyway, so that was it. And then I went back to UVA to finish up for a
00:20:28.960 year and they offered me a job when I graduated. And that's when I started working for Lou Dobbs
00:20:33.060 at Moneyline. And that's the story, brother. And then let's talk about that. Yeah. One last bit,
00:20:40.160 as I say, meeting all the finance people working for Moneyline. That's how I got to Alex Brown and
00:20:45.720 Sons in Baltimore two years later. That was the shift. I planned to be a business reporter
00:20:50.700 and or whatever something in broadcasting and then it was like hey come come move to baltimore
00:20:56.380 from dc and instead go and so i became an oil and gas analyst under buzzy krone guard at alex
00:21:02.060 brown and son so anyway that's the story lou dobbs i want to go back to money line because
00:21:07.500 there was another individual became a devotee of money line at the exact same time and that
00:21:12.480 was a guy named donald trump talk to me about the the gospel according to lou dobbs sir
00:21:17.460 well it would before anyone else he was paying attention to deficits and especially the trade
00:21:23.640 deficit as you and i talked off camera i mean he was he was the only guy talking about that it was
00:21:28.500 sort of that was the beginning of kind of the tea party in the american first populism and
00:21:32.680 stuff that pat buchanan paid attention to and donald trump was paying attention to
00:21:36.600 like if you were following wall street you that's the only you know squawk box in those places
00:21:41.280 that's the only place you heard about the trade deficit or lou dobsha and it wasn't by the way
00:21:46.580 It wasn't just Lou. I love working. If you remember, he had a really attractive mid early 30s woman named Debbie Martini, Deborah Martini.
00:21:56.100 She was sort of his top reporter on that show. But anyway, yeah, it was it was a great two years of whatever.
00:22:03.000 I was booking guests. I was writing copy for Lou. But it was a really it was a really fun time to be in D.C.
00:22:09.240 And again, CNN was awesome at that point. Ted Turner had only launched it in the early 80s.
00:22:14.360 Like I said, my internship was 87 and then started there in 89 or 88.
00:22:19.840 And, uh, you know, it was like a tiny, we had one floor on in some office, but I don't
00:22:25.660 remember what street it was on, but it was just one floor.
00:22:28.420 Like that's coming, coming, coming, coming, coming from UVA.
00:22:32.780 I'm sure, uh, Bernard Sherrill and those guys seem like conservatives, but let's go back
00:22:38.160 to Dobbs.
00:22:38.820 You started getting, he was about trade deficits.
00:22:41.080 He's about debt.
00:22:42.060 He's about deficits, even for the explosion of the going from one trillion to three trillion.
00:22:47.000 The lessons today that Lou Dobbs taught and that Donald Trump embraced, what are we missing here?
00:22:53.800 Now, fiscal consolidation, you're going to have vote, invest, and come back with some plan.
00:22:59.680 But this runaway train, is anybody addressing this seriously in your mind?
00:23:05.220 No, no one really is.
00:23:06.340 And I want to talk about that, but I'll throw another history piece for the debt and deficit monkeys out there.
00:23:11.560 like you and me you remember the penny casick bill that was tim penny from minnesota and casick
00:23:17.480 from ohio and it was when people you talked about lou dobbs talking about the debt when it was just
00:23:22.200 three trillion we actually there was sort of warren rudman was involved the concord project
00:23:27.200 there was a national discussion actually about debt and deficit issues back when the number was
00:23:33.460 so tiny you know like you said less than three trillion and the penny casick bill which would
00:23:39.000 have required, it was going to be like a 5% cut in budgets until we reached the balance. And it
00:23:45.240 came within one vote of passing the House. And I believe Warren Rudman had already gotten it
00:23:49.820 through the Senate. That was early 90s, mid 90s. And so that's what's so amazing is we've had these
00:23:56.960 national conversations when the number was so much smaller, dude. I mean, we're 3 trillion and
00:24:02.380 we got Warren Rudman starting the Concord Coalition. And then let's even go back to
00:24:07.240 obama right go back to obama when fitch and the different rating agencies started to get involved
00:24:12.340 when obama for the first time we had trillion dollar deficits right what did we get we got the
00:24:17.320 simpson the alan simpson erskine bowls commission so so and and again that was how many that was so
00:24:24.720 that would have been like 2014 ish so 12 years ago that's minus 24 trillion on it so that would
00:24:32.280 have been national debt at around 15 trillion bucks and we and we were really looking at
00:24:37.360 solutions now we're at 40 trillion and nobody's freaking talking about it except you like you're
00:24:43.120 the you're the only voice that's out there it's been freaking amazing these past months you know
00:24:48.180 you know since this is the only thing i care about for me to be able to turn on a show and have
00:24:52.860 someone who has the sort of financial background you have because of your goldman sachs and harvard
00:24:57.400 business school days and you understand bond markets and you remember Robert Rubin and Bill
00:25:02.760 Clinton and sort of the first when when bond market vigilante first became a phrase. And it's
00:25:10.620 just been so amazing to have you talking about this. And you know that I put these freaking
00:25:14.680 headlines. I mean, how often do I put, you know, tick tock goes the debt clock and it links right
00:25:19.700 to the U.S. debt. You know, I put guess the U.S. national debt in 1990. These are all headlines
00:25:25.300 in the stack over and over and over again that i've been doing for nine years and dang it people
00:25:31.040 are finally paying attention so i'm happy i'm going to take a breath do you think do you think
00:25:36.640 they're finally paying attention kane because now with the 10-year treasury starting to explode
00:25:40.480 the the jumbos i think the on the it's over five percent on the uh on on the 34 mortgage but a
00:25:47.040 jumbos over six percent you've got now your credit card because you talk about affordability
00:25:51.940 affordability is going to explode when your credit card your student loan your home equity loan your
00:25:57.540 mortgage everything starts to explode along with it do you think this with five dollar diesel is
00:26:02.840 finally going to get people's attention that a lot of this is driven because we've overspent and by
00:26:08.120 the way what we're spending on is destroying the country this is how uh dsa has been able to even 0.99
00:26:14.140 get me momentum because we got all these foreigners here we're fully we're fully paying i think 55 0.92
00:26:18.880 percent of uh now i realize this probably state budget but 55 percent of foreign headed households 1.00
00:26:25.300 in los angeles county are on the dole uh we really haven't made significant cuts yet in spending and
00:26:31.780 we're going to have to have that uh come to a jesus uh meeting correct correct and you talked
00:26:38.400 about it look it's shocking to me that we only have to pay 5.3 percent on the 30 year can you
00:26:46.120 imagine $40 trillion in national debt, $1.2 trillion in interest payments, when you only pull
00:26:51.380 in $5.5 trillion in total tax revenues, and you're getting close to $2 trillion of that just going to
00:26:57.100 pay the interest, I would think that the bond market would be at 7% or 8%. And that's what you
00:27:01.940 hinted at. If the bond market decides to start paying attention as we head to $50 trillion in
00:27:07.460 these next three years, you're going to have long bond at 7%, 8%, even if inflation is at 1%. It's
00:27:13.860 going to be a long bond at that price because no one you know the dollar it's it's no longer money
00:27:18.660 good dude it's all about you know you can you can pay you can only take five points or only pay 5.2
00:27:24.580 percent when people believe your money good and that's on the backs of the american people in the
00:27:29.140 u.s tax base and we have been money good since world war ii but but the point is this this could
00:27:34.420 be way higher you uh and then yeah last quickly yes we haven't cut any part of spending dude
00:27:41.260 these numbers we need as you've said we need to get to pre-covid levels that's 6.5 trillion in
00:27:47.600 spending not 7.5 let's get this sucker back to 6.5 and then let's keep it at 6.5 until revenues
00:27:54.420 catch up boom hang on for one second kane i'm gonna keep you i know you gotta go to work over
00:28:00.500 citizens free press you're the founder head cook and bottle washer over citizens free press i'm
00:28:07.180 I'll hold you just for a minute because a few more things I want to discuss.
00:28:10.500 Hardwell from Rome.
00:28:11.600 Jack Posobiec is going to be with us.
00:28:15.140 Richard Barris, Wayne Allen Root.
00:28:18.080 We're packed here on a Saturday morning.
00:28:19.920 We're starting off with Citizen Kane, someone that's focused on this debt and deficit issue for, I don't know, 30 or 40 years.
00:28:29.260 Short commercial break.
00:28:30.160 Back in a moment.
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00:30:28.240 every month when you open up your credit card bill it's going to get up in your grill
00:30:32.980 about what's happening here when you apply for a jumbo or a 30-year mortgage you're going to sit
00:30:39.080 there and go oh my lord that house that we really want to get we can't do it because the the payment's 0.74
00:30:44.600 out of control the guardian which is the paper the global paper for the marxist jihadist revolution
00:30:51.920 the global paper out of um out of uh england had a headline the other day u.s passes 40 trillion
00:30:59.840 face amount of national debt democrats outraged uh talk to me about that uh the phoniness
00:31:08.720 By the way, they're going to hang it all on Trump.
00:31:11.740 They're going to hang it all on the Republicans.
00:31:13.980 They're going to hang it all on Besson.
00:31:15.820 So now's the time to move with alacrity.
00:31:18.420 The media is going to stick it with you.
00:31:20.160 For the last 72 hours, it's been nothing but Trump.
00:31:23.380 Trump did this.
00:31:24.460 Besson doesn't know what he did with the bond market.
00:31:27.460 The Republicans are out of control on spending.
00:31:29.740 The Republicans are out of control on spending.
00:31:31.560 So, Cain, what is your recommendation?
00:31:33.720 Since your moment is now, you've been working on this for 40 years,
00:31:37.120 And now this emergency has to be stopped now or it's going to roll into a debt crisis that's going to spiral out of control, sir.
00:31:47.720 Yeah, I won't repeat any of that last part because it's true.
00:31:50.980 That's what if we don't fix this, that is what is waiting for us.
00:31:54.100 A debt crisis that spirals out of control and you have the long bond at seven, eight percent and no one can afford anything.
00:32:01.240 And, you know, the dollars devalue the whole thing.
00:32:03.960 What's my recommendation?
00:32:05.200 Get back to pre-COVID level spending. 0.85
00:32:08.340 Get this sucker back to $6.5 trillion from $7.5 trillion. 0.74
00:32:11.780 That's a trillion bucks. 0.97
00:32:13.740 In order not to punish anybody or any particular department, I would hit every line item or
00:32:21.520 every sort of group item in that $7.5 trillion budget.
00:32:25.520 Everything gets hit the same.
00:32:27.080 And you tell the department to figure out how to make their budget work at 10% lower.
00:32:32.200 Get it to 6.5, and then wait for revenues to creep up.
00:32:36.480 Now, on the revenue side, I like the tariffs.
00:32:39.220 Not only does it bring manufacturing home, provide an incentive to bring manufacturing home, it also raises revenue, and it didn't really boost inflation.
00:32:46.240 So I like the revenue enhancements, but it's really going to have to come from spending cuts.
00:32:51.820 And then we all know the big budget items.
00:32:54.320 Look, I love, you know, I understand a strong defense, and I love, you know, I love what Pete Hegseth is doing.
00:33:00.140 but we can't afford $1.5 trillion, Mr. President. We can't even afford $1 trillion. I'd work that
00:33:05.060 sucker back to $800 billion, tell them to figure out how to save money. Social Security, Medicare, 0.98
00:33:12.940 Medicaid, Medicaid is the program that's really freaking exploded sort of in the last five to 10
00:33:18.860 years. Look, like I said, everybody gets a cutback. You make the cabinet chiefs figure out
00:33:25.160 how to do it you asked me about sort of like leading this effort dude i would get fired i
00:33:30.440 could never lead it because there aren't enough cuts i know hang on look i understand one of the
00:33:35.020 things hang on hang on hang on slow down slow down if beset would ask you to come over and be
00:33:42.800 his comms person just on the fiscal consolidation he's going to do and the economic warfare or if
00:33:49.780 the white house if jason miller's over there now he said hey kane come over like i am for a couple
00:33:54.380 of months and be in charge of the spokesman for fiscal consolidation for vote in Besson.
00:33:59.420 Would you take it, Cain?
00:34:01.540 Dude, I would consider it, but Besson is his best spokesman.
00:34:06.980 I mean, when he goes on Squatbox, it's stone cold killer.
00:34:12.580 Like same thing out in front of the White House.
00:34:14.260 Like I think Besson is, and he has a lot more gravitas than I've got.
00:34:19.300 I would just be a guy yelling and pissed off.
00:34:22.140 I could tame it.
00:34:23.620 you know i can tame it and and and come up with a coherent message but i'd get fired
00:34:28.580 you know they'd fire me because they'd be like oh kane went off script again
00:34:32.580 you know he's he's too radical for us look i understand besan's point you we went through
00:34:38.120 this with the big beautiful bill he's saying you can't cut government spending too quickly
00:34:42.420 because of its effect on gdp and they're trying to get the deficit down to three percent of gdp
00:34:48.120 and i and that's a great number and i understand that and i do agree you but look we should have
00:34:52.860 been having three, you know, 150 billion in year one, 150 billion more cuts and spending in year
00:34:58.580 two, 150 in year three, 150 in year four, or something like that. And that isn't really
00:35:03.500 happening. As we know, Doge didn't come through with their side of the leisure. And then the
00:35:08.020 economy hasn't really grown. And we got into this war and whatever. You talk about all this
00:35:12.200 stuff every day. But look, I'm just rambling at this point. I'm glad to have this opportunity.
00:35:16.440 Yeah. Every time vote went up with a rescission package or impoundment,
00:35:21.480 the senate threw up all over it this is why the senate has a tough time getting re-elected anyway
00:35:25.740 kane where do they go you're on point on this where do they go for citizens free press and your
00:35:30.960 uh and your coordinates on your social media yeah it's citizenfreepress.com i'm there like
00:35:37.420 whatever seven or eight in the morning until past midnight all the new headlines at the top you can
00:35:42.580 read the pain inside my my freaking head the suffering that i go through about this the
00:35:47.820 america's margin call that's coming which is the most by the way you know that's the greatest
00:35:52.980 you love this phraseology of fiscal consolidation you know the american margin call is really what's
00:35:58.820 coming so i appreciate this opportunity keep fighting brother and keep inspiring all of us
00:36:03.520 let's get this on thank you kane appreciate you brother citizens free press kane does the best
00:36:10.940 job for everybody there's so many great sites out there he does the best job on the fiscal part of
00:36:14.940 But Sobik joins us. Jack, I got so much to get into. I'm going to talk about Butler. We got Maloney. We're going to talk about global politics. But Scott Besson's coming out with a plan on unrestricted economic warfare, economic D-Day on Monday.
00:36:31.020 One of the central parts of that is going to be the Chinese Communist Party and their ally Pakistan in Iran.
00:36:38.360 What do you anticipate? How is that going to play?
00:36:40.500 Because secondary sanctions can work if you get the countries that are really dealing with the Iranians and the Persians 0.95
00:36:47.340 and rearming them, buying their oil, getting them cash money. 0.98
00:36:52.400 Xi has already said, they already came out yesterday and said, no, no, no, no, this is going to upset the global balance.
00:36:57.100 Your thoughts, sir?
00:36:57.800 Well, Steve, this is what we've been saying since day number one. We talked about Operation Economic Fury, that the Trump administration has so many tools at its disposal.
00:37:10.260 And Steve, let's let's talk about the Chinese Communist Party going back to what we learned about COVID recently, to what we learned about the lives of the Chinese Communist Party, to what we learned about the 2020 election.
00:37:23.060 President Trump, of course, giving that incredible primetime hearing that he did, that address with Bill the Bulldog, Pulte, and everyone else with him with the declassification of what China did in 2020.
00:37:36.340 So the obvious response is, where is the repercussions when it comes to China?
00:37:43.200 And yes, I understand that Xi Jinping is going to be coming in a month, but you know what?
00:37:46.860 That's exactly when you want to play hardball because he's still on his way.
00:37:51.460 And then if he's going to refuse, is he going to back out of the meeting?
00:37:54.700 Now the ball's in his court.
00:37:56.960 But this has always been the best way to put pressure on the Iranian regime. 0.93
00:38:01.740 If the president, if President Trump, the administration have determined this to be a national security threat, if they are not playing ball with the MOU, if they're shooting our ships or the shooting civilian vessels, sending drones, sending rockets, whatever it may be, then you go after the suppliers. 0.88
00:38:16.660 You go to the upstream or I should say the the the the customers, you go after the financiers. 0.54
00:38:23.640 And it's always been the Chinese Communist Party propping them up.
00:38:26.920 It's as simple as that.
00:38:29.060 And we know, Steve, that who are the people that are saying not to do this?
00:38:32.260 It's not within the administration.
00:38:33.820 It's the people on Wall Street.
00:38:35.860 It's the people at the United States Chamber of Commerce.
00:38:39.540 Those are the ones who have been making money over a barrel on the backs of who?
00:38:43.940 You, the little guy.
00:38:45.140 It's not just the Lao Bai Jing of China. It's the Lao Bai Jing of the United States. Vance was up there in Ohio yesterday at the steel mill. The steel mill his grandfather worked in. That's exactly the type of thing that we're talking about here. The manufacturing base of this country and the administration, the infrastructure of this country has been hollowed out. Why? Because all the investment went to Shanghai and Shenzhen and Chongqing.
00:39:08.500 where's your money right it's like the end of uh uh it's wonderful life where's your money 0.98
00:39:12.180 your money's sitting over there in the three gorges damn 0.62
00:39:15.260 if she comes over you like you said you've got the you've got the there's a lot to talk about 0.96
00:39:23.000 you got the pandemic is he bringing a 10 trillion dollar check or gonna wire the money
00:39:27.820 you got the pandemic well 10 minimum what we have to get back 10 minimum 10 minimum
00:39:34.740 reparations for that you got the fentanyl deaths which now i guess are a hundred thousand you've
00:39:41.240 got the stolen 2020 election and still they're all in the uh they're all in the the the systems
00:39:48.080 here this is one of the reasons that they're trying to drive the democratic socialists to
00:39:52.040 victory and now you got unrestricted economic warfare we're going to go and hit them as the
00:39:57.100 with their ally persia so there's a lot to talk about and if she brings a checkbook write some
00:40:02.480 checks if i if i may i'll even i'll even throw one out we still need an answer for all of the
00:40:09.300 psychological operations they're running on tiktok and i'm sorry i know that we had this this big
00:40:14.420 thing where they're changing the the algorithm and it's going to be uh the united states hasn't
00:40:19.520 worked it hasn't worked and you see it over and over and the stuff they're putting up there is
00:40:24.180 meant to divide americans and drive americans crazy it's just as bad as it ever was and honestly
00:40:29.500 I would I would I would go so far as to say is tick tock is worse now than it was prior to 2024.
00:40:38.060 Hold it. You're saying because one of the aspects of their unrestricted warfare is economic warfare, political warfare, cultural warfare, but also psychological warfare.
00:40:47.820 So a version specific is what I thought, Jeff. Yes. I thought Jeff. Yes. Owned it. So it was all cleaned up, sir.
00:40:54.760 Look, it might be passing through this new U.S. holding company, but the algorithm is as divisive and is and divisive as ever to Americans.
00:41:04.980 It pushes socialist narratives more than ever. It pushes cultural Marxist narratives more than ever.
00:41:10.140 It pushes toxic feminism more than ever. And you also see various other narratives against specifically, I'm going to say it, U.S. technologies and others that China, we know, has been directly targeting.
00:41:22.700 And when you sit there and you connect the dots and you say, who would benefit from America being divided? Who would benefit from the racial strife, the gender strife, and going after various technologies in the United States? Oh, that's right, the Chinese Communist Party, the people who built TikTok.
00:41:37.560 jack talk to me i want to get in here i've got a bunch i got to jam in but one we're going to do 0.82
00:41:45.980 a new update on your book on humans i don't know if we have the cover of the new one or if you've
00:41:51.200 released that yet but talk to me about what you're going to do here and calling out and look i don't 0.51
00:41:55.560 like calling dsa socialists because they're not socialists they're marxist jihadists give me the 0.81
00:42:00.360 update on the book socialism is a tool and steve look there's been so much unhuman activity in the 0.86
00:42:07.240 last two years that we were forced to put out this update and you see on the cover we've directly
00:42:12.140 depicted uh the new york city skyline the statue of liberty where of course the place the face has
00:42:18.780 been replaced with uh the eponymous skull of the original jack did you do jack very very very
00:42:26.620 subtle very subtle cover that you must have done that did you do that or jack jack it's a very
00:42:31.900 We did it together, actually.
00:42:37.780 Yeah, that was me and Jack.
00:42:39.160 So why are they?
00:42:40.360 No, Steve, this is, look, New York City has calling to a Marxist jihadist. 0.61
00:42:45.560 The Red Green Alliance is, and I'm just going to say it, Steve, they're winning.
00:42:50.020 They are winning in New York City.
00:42:52.020 They've got another one up in Florida. 0.63
00:42:53.880 They've got one who's running up in Michigan, another one of these Marxist jihadists with
00:42:58.460 the Red Green Alliance.
00:42:59.380 And people need to understand Marxism is a tactic.
00:43:02.180 Jihadism is a tactic.
00:43:03.540 Socialism is a tactic.
00:43:05.120 These are all tactics.
00:43:07.300 And if we don't address them head on, if we don't see this, then we and actually work
00:43:12.760 to stop it in its tracks completely, then we will lose our entire country.
00:43:19.040 That's why Joshua Lysak and myself, we sat down, we wrote 14 new chapters in the second
00:43:24.100 edition of Unhumans.
00:43:25.580 That's why we're putting it out.
00:43:26.860 It is the socialist revolution.
00:43:28.860 Last time we were warning about it.
00:43:30.600 This time it's here.
00:43:32.180 That's why we put it out.
00:43:33.280 That's why it's up.
00:43:33.960 It's Amazon.
00:43:34.620 Anyone can go get it because this explains not only what's happening, but also how we crush it.
00:43:39.700 And in fact, Steve, we even lay out Charlie Kirk's plan to crush socialism.
00:43:47.700 On the 25th anniversary, which is a disgrace, this happening in New York City and New York City haven't fallen, at least for now, on the 25th anniversary of the attack of 9-11.
00:43:58.580 Absolute, total disgrace.
00:44:00.100 Okay, Postal's going to stick with us.
00:44:01.360 Harnwell's going to join us.
00:44:02.400 We've got a lot to get through, and we're going to get through it all
00:44:05.640 after a short commercial break.
00:44:08.220 We will play till they're all gone.
00:44:10.800 We rejoice when there's no more.
00:44:12.720 Let's take down the CCP.
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00:46:42.840 big in vegas uh in september what are the dates what's going to happen why should people come
00:46:48.500 that you're you're you're blowing through the tickets so there's only a couple hundred tickets
00:46:53.180 left i want to make sure the war room posse gets a heads up on this because the topics you're
00:46:57.700 covering are the sweet spot of the war room what do you got sir you're starting off everything we
00:47:04.420 talked about today root cause analysis fraudulent elections enables all of this 10 through 13
00:47:10.040 September are the dates, Ahern Hotel, stormsummit.us for tickets. And Steve, we've got two
00:47:17.540 events kind of coming together. We've got Protect the Vote, that's a turning point action, Save
00:47:22.500 Our States, American Majority, Heritage Action, and others on the 12th, also in the Ahern that
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00:47:35.080 integrity and unveiling the deceptions of what we've seen and turning insights into action 10
00:47:41.540 through 13th september and of course you wayne allen root uh o'keefe and trentice evans some
00:47:47.800 of the rav hosts will be there at our event speaking amazing uh one more time matt where
00:47:55.920 do people go uh how they get to the site if they have questions how do they get to you
00:48:01.000 Walk us through it.
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00:48:14.000 They can get a hold of me there.
00:48:15.560 They can also contact me at matt at unauthorized.one.
00:48:21.600 But every point of contact there, Steve, at stormsummit.us to get a hold of me or the team.
00:48:28.560 Matt Mech, thank you and the coalition.
00:48:30.400 this is going to be a barn burner war room is going to be up there so more details to come
00:48:36.680 make sure you go and find out about your tickets today posobic um economic unrestricted economic
00:48:44.100 warfare starts on monday we've got a report coming back about how we get our arms around
00:48:49.320 uh the spending coming in from from best and vote people should understand what kane said
00:48:55.480 well they tried to push the euro as the prime reserve currency didn't work they tried to push
00:48:59.700 push the chinese currency didn't work here's why it didn't work the currency ain't backed by the
00:49:05.340 federal reserve or the sec or the treasury it's backed by the full faith and credit of the people
00:49:11.720 of the united states that would be the mega base you're the full faith and credit of this country
00:49:18.080 and you're decent people and the world's capital markets understand that the american if people
00:49:23.580 american people put up federal reserve notes or put out bonds at six and a half they're going to
00:49:27.900 eventually buying you know they're eventually gonna the money it's money good you're the full
00:49:32.380 faith and credit in butler the other day sir in this dogfight of elections we got coming up
00:49:37.840 maga did not show up the trump base did not show up we got smoked in a in in butler where president
00:49:44.300 trump's got almost got assassinated and is as strong a maga country as you've got cliff maloney
00:49:50.060 has been up on twitter going crazy about this i got barris coming in later this morning what do
00:49:55.740 you got to say in your beloved commonwealth of pennsylvania is the full faith and credit of the
00:50:00.680 folks in this country saying i don't know man i i let that let that let the socialists take over
00:50:06.240 let the marxist jihadists take over sir well steve i'll put it this way i'll say you know 0.59
00:50:11.920 they were going oh oh they flipped a house special in in in western pa and they said yeah i don't 0.66
00:50:17.320 like that that's a big problem that's trump country what's going i said that's butler i
00:50:20.700 said wait butler you mean you mean butler where the miracle and butler happened not that butler
00:50:25.100 And they said, yeah, I said, wait, what districts was it? They said the 12th. I said the 12th district, the 12th district flipped the 12th district used to be represented by Daryl Metcalf and Daryl Metcalf, by the way, Steve, no offense, but he's a guy that would make you look like the Easter bunny.
00:50:43.480 OK, this is a guy who is as hardcore as they come.
00:50:47.820 I'm dead serious.
00:50:48.920 I mean, just denounced by the SPLC, denounced by every single organization you can think of out there, denounced by all the, you know, stood up for same sex marriage, went after everything, went after everything you're not supposed to touch.
00:51:03.600 That was the 12th district.
00:51:05.060 And he was beloved in his district.
00:51:07.180 Why?
00:51:07.460 Because he fought for his people.
00:51:08.960 All right.
00:51:09.600 And this is your salt to earth.
00:51:11.680 This is Steeler country.
00:51:12.560 This is, again, western Pennsylvania.
00:51:14.800 It's right on the border with Youngstown, Ohio.
00:51:17.560 And so when I heard the 12th flip, I said, well, that's a big problem.
00:51:21.400 That's a big, big, big problem because those people are – they're as Trump as it gets.
00:51:28.060 They're as MAGA as it gets.
00:51:29.540 They're as America first as it gets.
00:51:31.260 So, Jack, the reports from the field, the reports from the field, there's no – hang on.
00:51:36.420 There's no canvassing.
00:51:37.520 There's no going door to door.
00:51:38.900 This was a stay home.
00:51:39.480 There's nothing.
00:51:40.000 well here's what it is Steve what do you mean this is this is the the faithful saying you know
00:51:45.600 what Achilles is in his tent remember Agamemnon's going where's Achilles we need to we need to
00:51:51.620 invade Troy we need to go up Achilles is in his tent Achilles is the greatest warrior in all of
00:51:56.140 history but Achilles wouldn't show up and he said why and he said because because the the mission
00:52:02.540 does not seem to be going the way achilles wanted and this is where or or what was promised in the
00:52:10.940 first place and that's where achilles went and stayed during the trojan war if you read your
00:52:15.000 i'd read your homer this is where achilles said you know what i'm going to be in my tent which
00:52:20.320 of course led to his cut is that you know his friend cousin taking the armor and the rest of
00:52:24.400 achilles said achilles hang on achilles had a comment agamemnon yo bro this is 10 years and
00:52:31.500 what we're doing is not working and you're not doing it with enough urgency you're worried about
00:52:35.700 doing rating parties and getting girls and and treasure and we're not there for that we're there
00:52:40.280 for victory if you're not going to fight to win then i'm gonna go to my boat i'm gonna go to my
00:52:45.400 tent and just uh sit down right i mean that's why achilles threw the towel in and said hey
00:52:50.060 if you're going to fight to win i'm all in i'm your greatest warrior if we're just going to do
00:52:53.880 this for another 10 years i'm not going to do it poso hang on for a second we always achilles
00:52:59.920 He's going to storm the walls and win.
00:53:05.700 Victory.
00:53:06.380 Victory at all costs.
00:53:07.980 Okay, Jack Basova.
00:53:08.820 We've got Taze Gill, Jack Basova, Ben Harnwell, Richard Barris.
00:53:12.860 Special appearance on a Saturday morning by Wayne Allen Root.
00:53:17.940 We're going to talk about the National Security Emergency Memo.
00:53:21.980 I think we've laid the predicate.
00:53:23.520 I'll talk to Wayne about that.
00:53:24.940 We had Tickton on yesterday. 0.99
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