Bannon's War Room - August 24, 2026


Episode 5611: Trade War With Canada And Taking Out Iran's Economy


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00:00:00.000 Treasury Secretary Scott Besson is scheduled to announce new economic sanctions against Iran later today.
00:00:06.380 At a press conference, Besson will reveal what he calls VTOF sanctions in history.
00:00:13.580 The Trump administration plans to focus on isolating Iran, warning other countries to stop doing business with Tehran.
00:00:21.420 Besson previewed the plan in an opinion piece for the Financial Times yesterday,
00:00:26.860 where he called the sanctions economic D-Day for Iran.
00:00:31.780 Iran is dismissing the threat, saying it can counter and will maintain economic ties with other nations.
00:00:38.560 But that contradicts a push from some of Iran's top politicians
00:00:43.720 who are calling for an end to the war in hopes of stabilizing an economy in free fall.
00:00:52.240 He's expected to reveal the specific new measures that the Trump administration is expected to impose on Iran and really try to isolate it, particularly, of course, its economy from the rest of the world.
00:01:03.500 Now, the president and other top administration officials have described this new announcement as being the most comprehensive assault on Iran thus far, of course, on Iran's economy specifically.
00:01:15.720 Now, I will say that, and I mentioned this, but Besson and Trump, what they are describing is really this new coordination that the U.S. is hoping to have with allies to try and sever all economic ties with Iran, but also have allies sever those ties as well.
00:01:31.420 And you heard Besson explain a little more of this in that op-ed.
00:01:34.900 I want to read for you this quote.
00:01:36.040 He said, total financial isolation can obviate the need for American force while enlarging the sphere of freedom for our allies.
00:01:44.000 Later in the op-ed, he writes,
00:01:46.240 the world should understand that our objective is to sever every economic lifeline 0.51
00:01:50.640 that sustains the tyrannical regime until Iran stands alone. 0.81
00:01:55.280 Now, I do want to just give you a little bit of a picture of where Iran is at this point,
00:01:59.340 because, of course, we know the Trump administration has already been
00:02:01.660 trying to impose a lot of economic pain on the country over the last several months.
00:02:07.000 Iran's currency has now dropped to a record low against the dollar
00:02:10.940 as the U.S. continues to try and move and tighten their economy even further.
00:02:15.860 There are questions, though, about which allies, and specifically even some adversaries,
00:02:20.480 what the relationship with the U.S. and how they're going to respond to this.
00:02:24.840 And, of course, I think the big one is being China.
00:02:26.760 We know that China relies on Iran for its oil more than any other country in the world.
00:02:31.600 We heard Besson address this in recent days as well.
00:02:33.860 He essentially argued that China was aligned with the U.S.
00:02:37.540 when it came to finding a resolution to the Iran war and to reopening the Strait of Hormuz.
00:02:43.040 Besson said on CNBC last week that many conversations are best to have in private
00:02:47.360 and that they're confident that everyone wants the Strait reopened and for energy prices to come back down.
00:02:53.060 Look, I do think, though, some context here and kind of underscoring the bottom line
00:02:57.080 is that this war has turned from one that is being fought militarily,
00:03:00.840 a lot of those tit-for-tat strikes between the U.S. and Iran as negotiations have fallen apart,
00:03:05.680 to now being a full economic focus.
00:03:08.800 And this is something coming from the top.
00:03:10.640 The president has told his advisors in recent weeks
00:03:13.220 to seize negotiations as they turn to this new strategy.
00:03:16.700 So more details coming around this press conference this afternoon, John.
00:03:20.520 Who counts in Trump's America?
00:03:22.680 And you're right in part this.
00:03:25.140 On the afternoon of August 2nd, the Trump team delivered a bombshell
00:03:29.300 that is highly political ahead of this year's midterm elections
00:03:32.600 and amid wider fights about gerrymandering and Trump's insistence that the 2020 election was
00:03:39.540 rigged. They explained that when America holds its next census in 2030, technical reforms will
00:03:47.980 make it hard to publish the data about race and gender. These statisticians were shocked since
00:03:55.120 they, not politicians, usually handle technical reforms. Worrying about the state of America's
00:04:01.440 statistics might not seem that urgent, given all the other explosive political rows swirling in
00:04:07.560 Washington. But voters should pay attention. For at the heart of this story, there are
00:04:13.880 three key questions. Can anyone paint an accurate portrait of what America is today? If so,
00:04:21.980 how should this shape voting processes? And can this data be trusted in an era of manipulation,
00:04:29.580 cyber hacks, and artificial intelligence.
00:04:33.180 I mean, the census is a classic example of something linked to infrastructure,
00:04:38.580 which seems incredibly boring.
00:04:40.980 Everyone ignores most of the time because it's basically geeky and a bit nerdy.
00:04:45.280 But in reality, it's crucial because it doesn't just shape how we measure the economy,
00:04:50.620 which businesses and investors rely on.
00:04:53.540 It also has a huge impact on the political system
00:04:56.340 because it shapes how House seats are essentially allocated.
00:05:01.300 And what's fascinating is that although 99.9% of voters just ignore it,
00:05:07.620 Republicans have noticed that it's potentially got a lot of importance,
00:05:11.440 and they are essentially mounting a very quiet campaign to reshape how the census is done in two ways.
00:05:19.360 Firstly, to add a question about citizenship to the 2030 census,
00:05:26.340 which many people would argue is unconstitutional because the constitution says you have to count
00:05:31.700 everybody irrespective of status and secondly they're trying to change some of the technical
00:05:37.360 ways that privacy protections are put into the census that effectively mean it's going to be
00:05:43.580 almost impossible to publish detailed data on race or gender or even much detailed data on
00:05:51.280 minorities in small communities at all. Now, they're saying they're doing that to protect
00:05:56.220 people's privacy. But many of the community activist groups are really upset because they
00:06:03.280 argue essentially what's happening is you're blurring a picture of what America is. And that's
00:06:09.560 got all kinds of implications for how we imagine politics going forward. Most notably, that it'll
00:06:14.560 be harder to measure impacts of policies around things like race and gender and we don't know
00:06:21.500 we don't know if iran is going to emerge the most powerful country in the region
00:06:27.480 uh if we continue to put economic pressure on them if we give them the mou
00:06:32.860 or that that we had proposed over six months ago then yes they would have been the most powerful
00:06:39.420 country in the region if we took sanctions off of oil which we foolishly did for several weeks
00:06:46.200 then yes we would help them become the most powerful country in the region but if we continue
00:06:52.340 to grind them down economically not militarily economically then we don't know what i've been 0.76
00:06:59.020 saying from the very beginning if tomorrow we wake up and it looks like the soviet union's empire
00:07:04.480 in 1989. Listen, their economy was on the precipice before this war began. There were
00:07:12.620 riots in the streets. They were having to kill 20,000 people in the streets because the economy
00:07:19.140 was so bad in Iran before this war. In December, January, February, now from February 28th to today,
00:07:31.320 imagine how much worse that economy has gotten. If we can figure out, if Scott Besson can figure
00:07:39.580 out how to sanction China or how to cut off China from buying their oil, from cutting off their 0.82
00:07:47.900 supply that way, then yes, Iran can be isolated and Iran can be brought to the table and we can
00:07:54.680 have a deal to end this war in a way that doesn't make them more powerful than they were when the 0.54
00:08:00.620 war started but we're only going to get there economically we will not get there militarily 0.52
00:08:04.440 that's what they want they want us to keep firing missiles at them because that just strengthens
00:08:10.960 them it really does and they're standing with the people but economically it's a good lever for us
00:08:17.480 to use we'll see what scott besson has to say this afternoon and if he actually because as
00:08:22.620 katie said we've already maxed out in a lot of sanctions with iran we'll see though
00:08:27.600 how to turn the heat up even more on iran economically and if so maybe some more
00:08:35.640 politicians will come out and say hey it's time for us to sue for peace i wouldn't call it tearing
00:08:42.160 down the state so much as personalizing the state all elements of the state are being put in the
00:08:48.660 service of the person donald trump being pulled from their primary purposes being pulled from
00:08:54.180 their primary areas of competence being remade from the inside out to serve donald trump and
00:09:00.580 this is core to his authoritarian project i mean look we have to understand that he looks at a
00:09:06.260 xi jinping out there he looks at a vladimir putin out there and he sees peers with whom he envies
00:09:12.820 in some ways he envies their autonomy he envies their authority and as we've seen with the canadian
00:09:18.880 trade wars he envies their spheres of influence and so he is directing everything in on himself
00:09:25.580 and this is inherently corrupt people can see that it's an inherently corrupt and when they're
00:09:31.940 struggling economically or they're dissatisfied economically or they see all of these self-inflicted
00:09:36.780 wounds that are focused in on trump and not for their benefit they get angry and you're beginning
00:09:43.420 to see rumblings here in this country that remind me a bit of the popular revulsion ultimately in
00:09:50.140 Viktor Orban in Hungary. Authoritarianism does not sell, especially, especially when people
00:09:57.140 feel insecure financially. Yeah, I mean, Iran's economy is already a basket case. Their currency
00:10:02.740 is two million to the U.S. dollar. I mean, it can't get much worse beyond this. I mean, and
00:10:08.000 Obviously, the ruling regime in Iran doesn't really care that much about how much its people suffer.
00:10:14.700 We've seen that with the execution of 53,000 individuals.
00:10:18.200 So I'm not sure what levers they're going to pull.
00:10:20.640 And again, as was said in the prior segment, this is really about China.
00:10:24.200 China is Iran's benefactor to a certain extent.
00:10:26.840 And so unless this includes China and retaliatory sanctions against them for having dealt with Iran favorably, it's not that meaningful in a certain sense.
00:10:37.500 And so, again, it's something that I guess the Treasury Secretary will explain.
00:10:43.240 He may also talk about his plans to lower interest rates by buying bonds as a separate issue.
00:10:48.780 So there's a lot coming this afternoon that we have to listen to with respect to the Treasury Secretary.
00:10:53.120 But again, I'm not quite sure what kind of firepower they have against Iran economically, unless it includes China and Russia to a certain extent.
00:11:03.740 It's Monday, 24 August, Yorva Lord, 2026.
00:11:07.500 a pretty action-packed day in washington dc let's go to the white house and neil mccabe neil
00:11:14.600 i think it's interesting that the secretary of treasury scott besant our own scott besant is
00:11:22.400 going to announce d-day or the economic warfare proposal at 1 p.m it's been shifted because there's
00:11:29.680 going to be an event at the white house i think on school choice at about 230 but this is not
00:11:34.920 going to be done in the Oval Office. This is not going to be done in the Roosevelt Room. This is
00:11:38.480 not going to be done in the East Room. This is going to be done over at the Treasury Department
00:11:45.840 where he's going to declare economic war on the Persians. What do you know, sir? Tina's up. It's
00:11:52.460 going to be 1 p.m. Ravel. Cover it live. We're going to have commentary and observations on it
00:11:57.440 at 5 o'clock when we return. What do you know so far?
00:12:00.000 yeah so far uh secretary besant has really signaled his turn because his turn because he's
00:12:08.880 telling the financial markets this is coming so it's not going to be a shock but it is going to
00:12:14.920 be serious and it's going to be real and there's a lot of people who have great reputations in this
00:12:20.880 cabinet but no one has the reputation in the financial markets that scott besant has for what
00:12:26.980 he did to the bank of england and what he did in japan and so now he is engaged there was talk
00:12:33.620 earlier in this conflict that we wanted to preserve the iranian oil facilities and oil
00:12:40.240 refineries and storage because we wanted to help them finance their recovery from the conflict
00:12:46.660 and i think there was some hesitancy to to go full bore on economic sanctions because the idea was
00:12:54.120 hey, when this thing is over, we're going to have to rebuild this country or they're going to have to figure out how to recover from it.
00:13:00.500 That's all over now. And so they're going to find out they have a blockade with the U.S. Navy and they have to deal with Scott Besson.
00:13:09.240 Yeah. OK, hang on. I want to keep you there. We're going to get Navarro after the break to talk about this trade war.
00:13:15.460 That's kind of this brush fire war that's heated up over the weekend.
00:13:19.440 I'm going to come back to you because I want to get back into this economic war.
00:13:22.400 I mean, right now it's going to be a quarantine of all oil shipments.
00:13:27.460 They are letting out shipments.
00:13:29.920 They are letting out, or the Navy is letting out from Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, Qatar, a complete quarantine and blockade of Iranian oil.
00:13:41.720 Secondary sanctions, not just sanctions on the regime, but most importantly, secondary sanctions on European companies.
00:13:48.980 Most importantly, the Chinese Communist Party.
00:13:52.400 Banks, they're going to go after, supposedly go after banks of our quote-unquote allies in the Middle East, Dubai, which is a money laundering center for the regime.
00:14:02.100 Most importantly, is it going to include Chinese banks?
00:14:05.980 Because you could argue this is really economic warfare against the Chinese Communist Party. 0.87
00:14:09.780 The Iranians just have to be an intermediary. 0.90
00:14:12.880 Also, currency, they already talked about the real, which is the Persian currency, 2 million to 1 to a U.S. dollar.
00:14:20.000 Scott Besson crushed it in January.
00:14:21.740 That's what led to the revolt in the streets.
00:14:24.240 And last but not least, to cut off with our allies, any Overland approach through our ally Pakistan to rearm them, send component pieces and do trade. 0.87
00:14:35.160 A comprehensive economic D-Day supposedly announced at 1 p.m. 0.79
00:14:40.600 We'll get Neil back on to talk about, are we going to see this through to the bitter end?
00:14:44.900 Short commercial break. Dr. Peter Navarro, join us about a trade war with the gangsters up in Canada next in the war room.
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00:16:17.440 What a way to start off a week. We're about to declare a full-scale, comprehensive economic war against the Persians,
00:16:26.060 something we should have kept on in January.
00:16:28.980 if scott besson had been allowed to execute this plan in january we wouldn't be in this we wouldn't
00:16:34.640 be in the situation we are of course america's greatest ally tel aviv levin and those guys um
00:16:40.300 mike pence judas pence live from kiev over the weekend saying we got to finish militarily we
00:16:47.400 got to go in and take it all down and we'll get back we're gonna go back to the white house neil
00:16:51.100 mccabe we're gonna spend some time on this this morning also treat a parsi is going to join us
00:16:55.580 towards the end of the show talk uh we're going to talk through what the impact what the real
00:17:00.280 impact people believe this is going to have uh peter navarro's joining us let me play a short
00:17:04.940 clip from stephanie rule's show this morning then uh this is about a brush fire war on trade that
00:17:12.320 has really exploded over the last 72 hours the wall street journal who is peter navarro's biggest fan
00:17:19.340 says this is the dumbest trade war in human history let's go ahead and see stephanie rule 0.97
00:17:24.620 we're bringing Dr. Navarro. In Maine, but what do you think it means for the average American? 0.94
00:17:30.880 Initially, it's not that big. I mean, most of Canadian U.S. trade is still covered by the
00:17:35.280 USMCA, like more than 80 percent. I mean, this is this is hockey sticks. It's alcohol.
00:17:41.760 Ice skates. Ice skates. I mean, it's symbolic, I guess. So I think in and of itself, it's probably
00:17:47.560 not going to push our prices that much, but it certainly doesn't help. And it comes at a time
00:17:51.640 And when it's becoming more and more clear that tariffs do feed through to the ordinary consumer.
00:17:56.480 And this will just be another one.
00:17:57.940 Yeah, they feed through to the American consumer.
00:17:59.820 And when and if the Supreme Court shoots down the tariffs, businesses get that money back.
00:18:04.580 We're seeing it happens in the tunes of tens of millions of dollars.
00:18:07.360 But you and me, Target ain't giving us a refund.
00:18:12.560 OK, Dr. Peter Navarro joins us.
00:18:15.020 Doc, I'm kind of confused here.
00:18:18.000 So help me out.
00:18:18.840 In the first term, you and Lighthizer had the Chinese Communist Party up against the wall when they refused to sign the trade deal in May of 2019.
00:18:28.840 And ever since then, it's been full on unrestricted warfare by the Chinese Communist Party against President Trump, President Trump's administration and anything related to MAGA or standing up to him.
00:18:39.980 however the signature trade deal of the first term i would actually argue although i was not
00:18:47.480 a fan of all of it was the us mca which was the new deal i guess with mexico and and that replaced
00:18:54.980 uh nafta mexico and canada so where do we stand now why are we at a trade war as us mca been
00:19:02.300 thrown away is carny because people i also don't think realize canada is a collection of gangsters
00:19:08.820 when it comes to business, when it comes to tariffs, when it comes to who runs Western
00:19:13.800 Canada, which is really in the hands of the Chinese Communist Party.
00:19:17.720 Tell us what's going on here, because I think this has caught a lot of people by surprise,
00:19:20.880 given the fact that we had USMCA.
00:19:22.720 And I guess you guys are in the process of thinking through a renegotiation, sir.
00:19:28.680 Steve, let's start with USMCA.
00:19:30.900 The measure of any trade deal we have with any country in the world is whether it reduces significantly our trade deficit or gets a trade deficit down to zero.
00:19:45.600 And the problem we have with USMCA, particularly with Mexico, is the trade deficit has ballooned.
00:19:53.600 um canada it's it's a slightly different problem uh in that they severely discriminate against
00:20:03.860 in three major areas the alcohol beverage the dairy and the autos that's how this got started
00:20:11.440 we put out a 338 discrimination proclamation it basically says stop doing that um or we're
00:20:23.280 going to put these tariffs on. Just start with Steve. I want to echo something that Jameson
00:20:30.040 Greer said over the weekend on the Sunday shows. There's two countries in the world that have
00:20:35.680 responded with retaliation to the U.S. tariffs, the reciprocal fair tariffs. Communist China 0.57
00:20:43.560 and Canada. And dating back to the period of time, Steve, between the election of Donald
00:20:51.900 John Trump in 2016, and the inauguration, Wilbur Ross and I began negotiating with the Canadians
00:21:01.920 on what would become USMCA. And I can tell you that as much as I love my brothers and sisters
00:21:09.340 in Canada, and I think it's a great country, the people who guide their trade policy are some of
00:21:15.520 the sleaziest people, double dealing I've ever met.
00:21:19.680 And the problem, I think they have like an inflated sense of themselves
00:21:24.100 because when they originally created NAFTA, we were severely out-negotiated.
00:21:31.060 I mean, they were playing checkers, we were playing chess,
00:21:34.700 and part of the carnage of NAFTA was the result of very successful negotiations
00:21:40.980 by Canadians for a really skewed deal.
00:21:45.520 Where we stand now, and I want to speak directly now to the Canadian people, you have a leader in Carney who politically gets stronger by talking tough against Donald John Trump, but for every iota of strength politically Carney gets, your economy gets materially weaker.
00:22:11.460 And Carney is taking you, Canada, down a very dangerous road.
00:22:18.180 Now, with respect to what they do to us, Steve, I mean, let's take autos, for example.
00:22:24.480 I mean, they're screwing us now on autos.
00:22:27.120 The discrimination there is they're given more preferential treatment.
00:22:31.260 Think about this, Steve, to the Japanese, the Koreans, and the Germans than they are to the Americans.
00:22:37.640 That's like crazy stuff.
00:22:39.340 in terms of alcoholic beverages, they've basically banned everything. They're running
00:22:46.640 like an Iranian hate the Americans of death to American alcohol. They just keep it out of their 1.00
00:22:54.020 stores. And that's not right. And then the dairy tariffs have been a thorn in our side since the
00:23:01.360 first term um so this is this is a dangerous game i think canada's playing it's um it's it's the
00:23:09.540 smartest thing for the united states to do to hold them accountable on okay hang on hang on hang on
00:23:16.780 hang on a second just simply what outcome are we looking for you hit them with 50 tariffs they've
00:23:22.620 got a bunch of groups up there that i think run like gangsters i think carney's a gangster i think
00:23:27.780 all he gets is he gets he gets immediate political support by standing up to president trump but it's
00:23:33.640 not it's it's for the economic detriment of the canadian people but by doing this and initiating
00:23:39.740 this what is the outcome that the president hopes for well what we always want steve simply is is
00:23:49.720 fair and reciprocal trade i mean that's all we want we don't want the american people
00:23:54.140 to lose their jobs and lose their income, big countries cheat us. And I want to just emphasize
00:24:03.700 here, Canadians, they're big cheaters. And one of the dangers here over time is communist China, 0.99
00:24:12.240 as we put up our own tariffs, communist China is inundating the rest of the world with their 0.97
00:24:18.880 excess capacity, building essentially bridge heads and launch pads into Europe, into the United 0.96
00:24:27.920 States. And Canada, because it is so weak and woe politically, and because Carney seems to think
00:24:37.140 standing up to Trump is a good thing, the Chinese are basically having their way with Canada. It's 0.94
00:24:44.360 very dangerous i mean they're they're basically going to use or try to use canada uh as a as a
00:24:50.280 launch pad for the electric vehicles that they're just dumping on moss on the world markets i mean
00:24:57.400 it's it's like you know they got all their robots and their sweatshop labor and their government
00:25:02.460 subsidies and this that and the other thing building these electric vehicles at costs
00:25:08.340 Peter, hasn't the CCP so infiltrated Canada, Canadian business?
00:25:18.960 The western part, Vancouver, is really run as a colony of the CCP.
00:25:23.400 You've got the Huawei problem up there.
00:25:25.280 Hasn't Canada been so infiltrated by the Chinese Communist Party that this is really, we're dealing really with the CCP?
00:25:32.920 Carney and these guys are just spokesmodels for that.
00:25:35.860 This is really a CCP effort, and that's what you and President Trump are confronting?
00:25:41.920 Well, think of Canada as like three pieces, okay?
00:25:47.460 The MAGA piece, the sensible piece, the good conservative piece is the Edmonton area, where all the energy is, right?
00:26:00.100 Those folks, you know, the cowboys and their miners and their reptiles and this, that, and the other thing.
00:26:05.860 And they're just sensible folks. And they feel very, very, very punished by Ottawa, where all the liberals are, all the woke folks. And what Ottawa is not paying attention to is precisely what you raised.
00:26:22.080 I mean, Vancouver effectively is Hong Kong. I mean, it's crazy stuff what's going on
00:26:30.720 out there. And again, in Canada, it's just got so much territory, so sparsely populated. It's
00:26:39.980 a very easy target for the Chinese to come in and throw a bunch of money around. And rather than 1.00
00:26:48.020 And Carney trying to come up with a way to work with the Americans in a fair way, politically, again, I want to stress this trade-off, politically he wins.
00:26:59.820 When he goes up against Trump, economically, Canada loses. 0.99
00:27:03.580 And until the Canadian people themselves stop rewarding Carney in the polls, he's going to keep doing stupid stuff. 1.00
00:27:12.900 I mean, I'll be honest with you, Steve, that deal we gave them, that was a frigging. 1.00
00:27:24.900 We lost Dr. Navarro.
00:27:27.040 Anyway, I'll put up Dr. Navarro's everything, the go-to site for Dr. Mer, all his content.
00:27:32.840 A brush fire trade war. 0.62
00:27:34.640 Chinese Communist Party has completely, totally infiltrated Canada.
00:27:38.580 Like I said, like Navarro said, Vancouver is essentially Hong Kong. 0.98
00:27:43.540 And they've infiltrated every aspect of culture, business, economics, politics, all of it.
00:27:49.140 So you're really dealing with them.
00:27:50.280 President Trump throws down the gauntlet, 50 percent tariffs.
00:27:54.340 Carney tries to respond. We're going to cover this.
00:27:56.300 We're going to go back to the White House.
00:27:57.740 Also have Troy Myers from the Epoch Times.
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00:29:59.140 we got peter navarra back uh peter uh what are your coordinates uh by the way i realize you
00:30:07.860 think we gave him too good a deal the first time i take it we're not going to do that again uh
00:30:12.240 your thoughts and where do people go for your content particularly your new fauci book fauci's
00:30:17.060 got to rot in prison uh to be precise they got a really good deal this time around and particularly
00:30:25.160 on steel and aluminum and i'm they're not going to get that again uh i don't know what the heck
00:30:30.700 carney was thinking i he just he made a mistake uh fauci should rot why fauci should rot in prison
00:30:39.420 you got to go to amazon and get this forward by steve bannon this thing uh it's coming out get
00:30:45.840 one for your friends. I take him down, but most important, I show how this man can be prosecuted
00:30:52.840 despite the pardon and put him in bars, behind bars for the rest of his life, for where he
00:30:58.960 belongs. I'll tell you, Steve, reading that diary, his diary, and then you read mine, and it's like
00:31:06.280 he, it's worse than I ever imagined, and I always said he had blood on his hands,
00:31:11.600 And it's 10 times worse when you actually read behind the lines.
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00:31:37.040 The war room had a great response the last time you and I talked about this, but we've got to really get this out there so we can put Fauci behind bars.
00:31:48.620 Dr. Navarro, thank you for starting us off today.
00:31:50.660 I appreciate you.
00:31:51.720 All right, my brother.
00:31:53.000 Take care.
00:31:53.460 Dr. Peter Navarro from the White House.
00:31:56.320 I'm going to go back to Neil McCabe.
00:31:57.800 Neil, just hang on.
00:31:58.460 I'm going to go back to Neil McCabe at the White House to get more into this economic trade war.
00:32:02.780 We are going to cover the press conference live at 1 o'clock.
00:32:05.240 uh poso and others are going to join me back here at five to go through what this all means and
00:32:10.000 are we going to stick to it because a lot of it deals with the chinese communist party
00:32:14.440 troy myers joins us from the epoch times this morning a really amazing piece over the weekend
00:32:22.520 on temporary protective status i think i've had a thing or two to say about this let's play the
00:32:27.260 clip and i'll bring troy in either have a sovereign nation or we're not
00:32:32.100 let them go back to haiti give them a form they can fill it out to come back and if you
00:32:38.900 and if people need them they'll figure out a way to get them back here
00:32:42.100 let's fill those jobs up now with folks that are united states citizens
00:32:48.520 oh they won't work they won't work well i fail to believe that maybe you have to pay a different
00:32:54.700 wage oh yeah then i said it oh my gosh oh my gosh wall street journal the murdochs
00:33:01.460 Arthur Laffer, Steve Moore. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. Wages. I mean, I mean, American citizens
00:33:08.100 wouldn't have to compete with foreign labor, both legal and illegal. Yeah, that's what I mean. 0.98
00:33:14.040 They shouldn't have to.
00:33:18.580 The finest broadsheet in this country is the Epoch Times. And one of the reasons is
00:33:25.480 reporters and analysis like Troy Myers, who joins us on temporary protective status,
00:33:31.460 Sir, you're saying, and correct me if I'm wrong on your piece, and I want you to back it up now, there's actually, forget the Haitians, they're just part of the equation, there's one million temporary protective status individuals that are essentially ready for mass deportations. Is that how I'm supposed to read your piece, sir?
00:33:52.440 Yes, that is correct, from countries around the world.
00:33:55.140 so walk me through this how do we come to this because right now
00:34:01.560 they're out they're out in springfield the dogs are still upset they're out in springfield
00:34:07.140 putting ankle monitors on people i don't they had a plane leave the other day the first plane
00:34:13.280 i think it had 170 folks on it wasn't even full so what's going on how can we have a million just
00:34:20.400 walk me through the math of how we got here. And then we can try to talk about how the hell
00:34:26.280 we're going, because this is the lowest hanging fruit of the mass deportations, Troy Myers.
00:34:31.340 Yes. So yeah, this is an effort that started last in the first Trump administration, I should say.
00:34:37.460 President Trump tried to remove these protections from all these countries in his first term,
00:34:42.440 but he was unsuccessful. He started this effort up again in the second term.
00:34:47.440 He was met with lawsuits, like in the first term, but he's had a lot more success this time.
00:34:52.280 He had the Supreme Court hear his case regarding Syria and Haiti.
00:34:56.780 Obviously, the Supreme Court ruled in his favor.
00:34:59.800 And all these other countries, all the judicial rulings, all those blocks fell as a result of that Supreme Court ruling.
00:35:06.540 And I mean, there are tens of thousands of foreign nationals living in the United States under these protections.
00:35:12.200 and El Salvador, their protection statuses are expected to expire in September.
00:35:19.520 And I believe there's over 100,000 El Salvadorans that have been under protected status for
00:35:26.720 at least five years, I think.
00:35:30.100 So even more, there's going to be even more that are going to be up for deportations here
00:35:34.620 soon, just this next month.
00:35:36.080 troy if we've been doing this and focused on this from the first term and finally got
00:35:43.540 you know even more serious in the second and got ready for the court fights and won at the supreme
00:35:48.900 court and maybe i maybe we've just not seen the results here but it seems like the haitians the 0.78
00:35:56.820 syrians many more as you go into the other countries you lift them all the one million 0.98
00:36:01.560 we're not making a lot of progress we've we've made progress in taking away the legal right for
00:36:08.540 the temporary protective status but we really haven't been at least organized and i don't know
00:36:14.580 if it's logistics because we put in 170 billion dollars for mass deportations and in the big
00:36:21.080 beautiful bill or the supplement to it and it got passed so we got the cash is it a logistics
00:36:26.900 problem? Is it a money problem or is it a political will problem? It doesn't seem like
00:36:31.660 a lot of these folks are getting anything more than an ankle bracelet and a time to come and
00:36:36.880 argue some more, sir. Yeah, that's, that's a tough question because I mean, the, the Trump
00:36:42.860 administration, they ran on mass deportations and people voted the Trump administration in
00:36:48.420 for mass deportations. And, you know, you have over a million foreign nationals now up for
00:36:54.580 deportations? And have there been steps behind the scenes being taken to prepare for this mass,
00:37:02.120 you know, potentially a mass deportation effort? It's kind of, we haven't seen that play out yet,
00:37:08.120 unfortunately. We're still waiting. I'm still trying to talk to people from ICE, with DHS,
00:37:13.700 with CBP, and they can't really give out too much, which, you know, is understandable. They're not
00:37:20.580 going to hand out their information on operations they're going to carry out. But I think the main
00:37:27.660 worry that we have right now from legal experts I've talked to is that these people have been
00:37:33.480 warned that they can take a flight home, they can take a $2,600 check if they self-deport,
00:37:39.020 or they can be forcefully removed. But the worry is that these people, they've been living in the
00:37:45.180 United States for so long, they might just try to remain in the United States and live under the
00:37:49.780 radar. So now it's really up to DHS to find and locate these people and really enforce the end
00:37:55.640 of these, uh, deportation protections. But, but let's, okay. I can understand that, but let's
00:38:03.380 talk about, uh, like Springfield, Ohio or a certain place, these communities, because when
00:38:09.340 they came here, the government had them congregate. It's a little bit like that scene in the
00:38:14.300 untouchables. It's, we know where the whiskey is. You just have to have the political will to go
00:38:18.240 beat down the door and go arrest people particularly prominent at that time government officials and
00:38:23.880 others that were in with the Capone mob in uh in you know making sure whiskey was made and
00:38:28.880 distributed here's the same thing I mean there's not a lack of Haitians wandering around Springfield 0.97
00:38:34.460 like I said the dogs are still worried the dogs are saying hey guys what's what's going on here 0.92
00:38:39.740 right it's it's not like it's lost on them it's and you've got people going in and they're putting
00:38:45.320 like they're singling out one guy and putting an ankle monitor on and then the cameras are all over
00:38:49.340 him because he's crying and saying it's so terrible and he's been in the united states so
00:38:53.680 long he just wants to stay here so when you say people want to go underground right now they're
00:38:59.000 kind of up in our up in our face mocking us correct it does seem like that yes but you have
00:39:05.020 to understand i mean there's more than a million of these people out there like i know we have some
00:39:09.300 main sites, like in Michigan, like you mentioned, Dearborn. But these people have probably spread
00:39:17.180 throughout the United States. New York, the governor there, she said that these protection
00:39:22.860 statuses, the end of them, it's going to cripple, apparently she said it's going to cripple her 0.94
00:39:27.400 industries across the state. So it seems like these people have spread out across the United 0.58
00:39:32.680 States. It's not just while we do have some local, not local, but some main areas where these people
00:39:39.780 are, it seems like they've really infiltrated everywhere across the United States. And then
00:39:45.040 again, it also comes down to, I think you mentioned personnel. Well, we know for a fact that Border
00:39:50.080 Patrol has record high recruitment right now. So I think it also comes down to local coordination
00:39:57.720 because a lot of these states and cities, they do not coordinate with ICE and federal officials.
00:40:02.040 their lawmakers there in Democrat-run areas, they will prevent local law enforcement from
00:40:07.300 cooperating with federal officials. So I think that's also a worry, is having that backup,
00:40:12.820 that on-the-ground local backup is what federal officials really need. And I believe Democrat
00:40:20.000 lawmakers in some of these areas are preventing that from happening. I think this is kind of a
00:40:24.460 coordinated effort. Governor DeWine in Ohio has made the pitch that the Haitians
00:40:32.020 built Ohio, right? Not, not Ohioans. The Haitians built Ohio real quickly. When you try to do your 0.98
00:40:38.300 reporting over DHS and personnel, are people talking about plans actually do the mass
00:40:44.240 deportations? Are you kind of getting, it's tough to draw out like their plans haven't been formed
00:40:49.460 or they really don't have any interest in executing, sir. You know, it's tough. I will
00:40:54.520 say it's tough just being, you know, doing communications over the phone, um, through
00:40:59.040 emails, it's tough to get actual straight answers from these people. Meeting them face-to-face,
00:41:04.940 though. I've had meetings with them in San Diego with Border Patrol. I've met with people at ICE
00:41:09.320 in San Diego on the border. And they are much more open to conversations. They say that, yes,
00:41:14.220 we are all throughout the country. We're doing these operations. Secretly, people aren't recording
00:41:19.860 all the stuff you see on social media. That's just a drop in the bucket of what these agents
00:41:25.300 are doing throughout the country. So those face-to-face interactions I have with federal
00:41:30.220 officials, they reveal a lot more stuff about what they're doing throughout the country.
00:41:34.460 But yes, I run into a lot of roadblocks just, you know, trying to call people at DHS and emailing
00:41:39.960 them. It's kind of like pulling teeth, honestly. I've got to tell you, that's what I want everybody
00:41:46.180 if Elizabeth and Jojo and Mo and Grace and everybody can push this article out from Epoch
00:41:50.880 times just read it you'll see exactly what the the pool we have for mass deportations then we
00:41:57.220 start to put pressure on people to uh to focus on this troy where what's social media where are your
00:42:02.460 coordinates and where do people go to get all your great reporting in the epoch times since
00:42:06.220 you're a staff writer over there yes sir yeah i'm on uh x i'm on facebook i'm on linkedin you can uh
00:42:12.940 i'm more frequent on x yep there's my page right now i think my username is troy underscore myers
00:42:18.000 one and i'm posting pretty much every day stuff that i'm writing about um yeah you can check me
00:42:23.440 out there give me a follow troy thank you so much great reporting a great piece i think people will
00:42:31.100 uh after reading it going what in the hell is going on here we need action action action
00:42:36.420 they've done the hard first part the second part ought to be pretty straightforward thank you troy
00:42:40.060 appreciate you we're gonna go uh we'll take a short commercial break jason kilmeyer from
00:42:47.240 um the daily caller is going to be here remember he's doing a multi-part series and actually the
00:42:53.260 logistics of mass deportation he's going to get us up to speed on exactly what's going on because
00:42:58.180 now we know there's a pool of a million low-hanging fruit just sitting there and the dogs of
00:43:04.060 springfield are howling what are you guys up to why are you not doing this so we're gonna get the
00:43:09.860 straight answers uh next a lot of uh turmoil over the weekend in capital markets or discussion of
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00:45:59.060 recognition is two articles one the washington post had a great article about the issue with
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00:46:40.820 besant is going to give a press briefing or press conference make a statement about the economic war
00:46:45.820 so he calls it economic d-day against the persians but really against the chinese communist party and
00:46:51.740 a lot of these entities continue to trade with them and provide them cash money and buy their oil
00:46:57.160 also in a couple weeks we're supposed to get um what's called fiscal consolidation both on the
00:47:03.780 revenue side and the cost cutting side from russ vote and scott besant both of these will cause a
00:47:11.640 little turmoil that's why we're in a fourth turning and you folks have got the access to
00:47:16.700 the information and the access to the people that it can explain the information with philip patrick
00:47:22.320 and his team and philip's going to join us again tomorrow since there's so much going on in capital
00:47:26.240 markets really uh honored to have jason uh kilmeyer back from the daily caller we asked him he was on
00:47:33.480 a couple weeks ago for the initial part of a multi-part series called mass deportations after
00:47:40.080 the midterms today you've come up with the second piece i think late last week walk us through
00:47:45.360 particularly in in light of our previous guest troy myers from epoch times that tells us hey
00:47:51.900 because of the legal situation what president trump and the team have done you essentially
00:47:56.300 have a million temporary protective status people that are now kind of free and clear
00:48:02.400 to uh to be shipped back to their home country walk us through you you've got this part today
00:48:08.480 is about the machinery walk us through it and and if we're all ready to go the question is going to
00:48:14.100 be why ain't we going jason uh the floor is yours thanks steve yeah and if you remember in our first
00:48:20.440 conversation which i really enjoyed we talked about hey like understanding what mass deportation
00:48:25.160 is going to look like in 2027 2028 it is a new and a different skill set and so if it's a new
00:48:31.520 in a different skill set, and we have populations who are now legally cleared to go, we need a new
00:48:37.640 organization, a new type of way to accomplish this. And so my argument is not for another
00:48:43.100 permanent layer of bureaucracy, but instead what we do is we stand up what's called a temporary
00:48:48.420 service organization. It's the Title V, Section 3161. Americans are familiar with this because
00:48:55.140 it's the exact authority invoked to stand up DOGE in the first days of this administration.
00:49:00.000 So we stand up this organization with a Washington-based headquarter cell that has an interior enforcement czar as the lead and maybe eight to 10 other folks there at headquarters, Steve, to help with what we'll call the basic enterprise functions, right? Document issuance, major elements of contracting, legal, etc.
00:49:17.760 And then we devolve as much authority down to what I'm calling 10 regional commanders who are responsible for a specific region and their country, making the logistics work and answering one question back to Washington on a daily basis, which is, did you meet your removal quota or not?
00:49:39.160 And who do we need to bulldoze to make it happen tomorrow?
00:49:41.820 so walk me through this you've thought this through and said hey if we just put it into the
00:49:50.400 dhs bureaucratic um apparatus somehow it's going to deal with all the tribal fights they've got
00:49:58.700 and all the vendettas and all that you're saying use title five just like he did in doge set up a
00:50:04.160 totally separate entity uh that goes away after the job's done but very task oriented very focused
00:50:11.200 on uh the removal of people and they that czar reports either directly dhs or probably right
00:50:18.260 to the president and then the funding that we got they get as much funding as they need
00:50:22.620 to basically fulfill the obligation to remove uh to start the process of removing the 22 million
00:50:29.920 illegal aliens that came in under biden's regime and or holdovers like the tps people that are now
00:50:35.920 eligible to be removed sir is that is that your model yeah and and steve to your point there
00:50:42.240 this has got to be essentially run directly out of the white house and one it's where it's what
00:50:48.900 you need to do to bulldoze people to get the obstacles done everything we're talking about
00:50:53.840 is a function of political will and i'll walk you through that in a second so in my opinion right
00:50:58.640 this will probably formally from an administrative perspective have to be seated out of dhs but it
00:51:04.520 really needs to be run out of the White House. And we talked about, right, how do we bring these
00:51:10.240 logistics to bear? Let me break down some basic things. I started from a proposition that was a
00:51:14.960 very low-end estimate of just the people who came in through Biden. It was 10 million. And I just,
00:51:21.080 again, used that number for planning purposes. Well, two years left in the administration,
00:51:25.520 So let's say 730 days, that's 14,000 removals every day. About 30% of the illegal alien population
00:51:35.980 right now are Mexican. So let's say that we concentrate the vast majority of those removals 1.00
00:51:41.340 on the ground. That's 4,200 people a day that go out that mechanism. We have 49,500
00:51:50.020 charter or commercial buses around the country. This is not a capacity issue. This is a function
00:51:55.680 of political will. But when you start to look at that scale, 4,200 Mexicans a day, and then let's 0.99
00:52:00.840 say it's 9,800 people that need to leave by air to go everywhere else in the world. That is, let's 1.00
00:52:08.620 say an average airplane's 150 people, but that they'll be filled at 100 each. And you need
00:52:13.560 security guards, and they're not going to be maximally full, right? So that's about 100 flights
00:52:18.060 the day that the federal government needs to produce. When we're talking at that scale,
00:52:22.500 it cannot be a DHS alone effort. That money can be repurposed as needed through MOUs and other
00:52:29.280 mechanisms to pay back other departments as they help us. And President Trump knows this because
00:52:34.360 in the very first national emergency declared at the border, January 20, 2025, he explicitly
00:52:40.600 called upon other departments to include DOD to begin helping with those logistics. He used the
00:52:46.220 border wall authority, right, for construction, directed DOD to specifically help with transport.
00:52:52.900 People remember that from early in the administration. There were, I think,
00:52:55.720 some C-17s and other planes. This has got to be a function of broader national capacity.
00:53:02.320 Yeah. Jason, hang on one second. I'm going to take a short commercial. I'm going to hold you over.
00:53:08.060 A czar in the White House directly report to the president of these United States on a mass
00:53:14.320 deportation programs that gets them the hell out of the country short commercial break back in the
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