00:00:29.000I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:34.500Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:38.260If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:44.460War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.
00:00:53.580It's Monday, 24 August, Year of the Lord, 2026.
00:00:57.240thanks uh jason kilmeyer from uh daily caller is our guest uh jason want to continue on by the way
00:01:03.360steven miller's really been the chief architect under president trump for a decade now almost
00:01:10.060for uh immigration policy sealing the border uh internal enforcement it's would he be the czar
00:01:18.300or be somebody named a czar that reports to steven and then steven will report to the president on
00:01:24.260this is that the because you're making a pretty definitive decision in your analysis to say look
00:01:30.860if you want to get serious about this you got to take it out of the department of DHS which is
00:01:36.380massive and has so many mandates you've got to prioritize this by putting it in the west wing
00:01:41.680naming a czar and of course you're you're in the west wing you're cheek by jowl with the oval office
00:01:48.720so you can go down there every day because president trump's going to be calling you to
00:01:51.880say, hey, give me the numbers, how many flights are leaving, et cetera. Is that why you're calling
00:01:56.140it to be shifted over to the White House under some czar? And would that be Stephen Miller or
00:02:00.880somebody that will report to Stephen Miller? I think very likely Mr. Miller will be in another
00:02:07.760even higher position here in a few months. So the way that I look at it is it's someone who
00:02:12.700would report to him. And DHS right now has grown capacity exponentially in the first year and a
00:02:20.700half, two years of the administration. There are people working like maniacs at ICE seven days a
00:02:26.160week to try to build this thing. My argument is a DHS alone approach will not be sufficient for
00:02:32.340the scale. So for that to happen, and us not to get bogged down in like the interagency stuff,
00:02:39.700this has to go all the way to the top. So that's why one, it needs to sit at the White House
00:02:43.660from a practical perspective, but two, because this is a function of political will. And let
00:02:49.120to give you an example, Steve, like, you know, you mentioned the TPS folks, right? There's another
00:02:54.000population that you may remember the Biden administration invented called CHNV, and where
00:02:59.620they just decided that they could, quote unquote, mass parole people into the country, and we flew
00:03:03.680them in ourselves. We own Venezuela right now, and yet we're still bargaining with Venezuela
00:03:09.960over how many people they will take back of their own citizens, right? That's one phone call or one
00:03:17.060tweet from the president to get that done so this is that's why this needs to be run out of the
00:03:21.260white house jason let me ask you before i let you go uh and i want if uh mo and grace already can
00:03:29.680push out and everybody be a force multiplier in fact go back to the first piece because both of
00:03:34.460them are great and they're even better when read into kind of conjunction with each other about
00:03:39.740but even in the headlines because correct me if i'm wrong we could get the title five very quickly
00:03:45.300from the white house executive ward you could call for it you could get you've got the money
00:03:49.580money's already been uh allocated already been authorized you've got steven miller in the west
00:03:56.160wing prior to any kind of new job he would take you've got uh i i know this from internal
00:04:03.200enforcement at ice you literally have hundreds if not thousands of people of internal enforcement
00:04:09.920that would gladly sign up and love to be the regional commanders and and would know the
00:04:14.500logistics why do you say after the midterms all this is available now and it's a number one we're
00:04:21.480going to talk over the next couple days about some of the potential lack of urgency the left
00:04:27.020has urgency because they see that president trump they believe he's vulnerable they see the
00:04:31.420possibility of impeaching him if they win uh of thwarting his entire program of stopping maga
00:04:37.860of destroying uh president trump and his associates everything we go back to even worse
00:04:42.800than the Pelosi Biden regime since this is and every time you talk this is a number one priority
00:04:49.580only now being tracked with data centers and flock cameras why would you wait or maybe I'm wrong
00:04:58.560is everything in place if we wanted to do it now and the White House cleared out some time
00:05:03.580to brief the president could you do everything you're talking about today before the midterms
00:05:10.040or just logistically does it have to wait to afterwards or is that a political call on your
00:05:15.320part yeah and not even a political call Steve it's more I'm conceding to what I'm presuming
00:05:21.300the political call is baked in between now and then and so to then to your point right
00:05:26.100how do we then start to build the logistics so that we could hit go if the you know let's say
00:05:32.220it's a couple days after the midterms or the next week and the president says okay let's do this
00:05:36.280thing for real. My goal is much more simple, which is this is existential. And yet what I'm
00:05:44.420trying to do is shift the Overton window towards a discussion of the actual logistics at scale that
00:05:51.480will be required. And so if I can have that impact on the debate so that when the president does
00:05:56.560snap his fingers and say go, there are good answers available to him.
00:06:01.720jason i want everybody to read these uh what is your coordinates because i know a lot of people
00:06:08.780are probably going to have other following questions and we'd love to have you back in
00:06:12.020a couple of days after this has gotten out and been disseminated because i think you're doing
00:06:16.140a great public service here so where do people go to the daily caller get your writings what's
00:06:21.080your coordinates for social media and how do you have dms or something people can if they've got
00:06:25.820questions besides just put it into your twitter feed they can come to you sir yeah the best way
00:06:31.880to get a hold of me anybody and appreciate the follow is just twitter at jason kilmeyer and by
00:06:36.160the way i do read the i'm one of those people who does read the comments i always want the feedback
00:06:39.620and uh so would love to hear from folks okay war room posse he just told you reads the comments so
00:06:47.020let's load it up jason great second piece appreciate all the uh all the hard work you've
00:06:52.420putting and thinking this through. And yes, you are definitely getting a conversation going about
00:06:57.500how do you do mass deportations and where are the logistics at scale to actually accomplish it? So
00:07:02.500thank you so much for coming on this morning. Appreciate you. Thank you, Steve.
00:07:10.000Make sure you read Troy Myers on the TPS, the 1 million that are available now
00:07:15.000over the epoch times get that then daily caller jason kilmeyer um amazing piece second part of
00:07:23.040the series these are you're seeing a lot of young people get very focused very serious about some of
00:07:30.380the most basic uh controversies and crises facing the country and so we want to make sure we platform
00:07:37.600people and that their material is read and shared most importantly uh one thing i want to go make
00:07:45.400sure a chapter gotten tremendous feedback on this particularly with all the changes that are
00:07:50.720occurring in medicare and with the fiscal fiscal consolidation and i'm not saying or touch medicare
00:07:59.020or or uh or social security because i don't think that's in this first tranche now maybe medicaid
00:08:04.840But there are changes going on. Part of that's driven by going back to this kind of COVID era funding that was done and getting rid of it.
00:08:13.720Chapter 845 War Room. You have your own hotline. This is free, no obligation.
00:08:20.120You get to talk to a consultant on the always confusing and complicated issue of your Medicare plan.
00:08:27.280So the chapter people, a database company, go check it out and take care of that today.
00:08:31.700we've gotten tremendous feedback i think they've already saved the war and posse over a million
00:08:35.160dollars but most importantly they've gotten into optimum plans which is absolutely essential and
00:08:39.580key patrick k o'donnell the reason we're doing this and and fighting to keep this project
00:08:47.520going forward in the 250th and i think it's ironic in the 250th in the basically oldest republic
00:08:55.340known to man and and i think getting very close to i guess depending on how long you said they
00:09:02.660were actually a republic probably longer than even the roman republic um the commemorating
00:09:09.720the birth of this nation and at least the initial throwdown that we're going to be independent now
00:09:14.400we got to fight for it people don't really have the details of the fight for it but you're an
00:09:20.440expert august the 1776 i would argue maybe one of the most important months maybe even more
00:09:29.540important than july of 1776 or june in the fight for this nation tell me about it and what are you
00:09:36.320doing since you're the greatest combat historian of his generation what are you doing to commemorate
00:09:40.980it sir thank you for your kind words steve um i'm going to be joining the brooklyn gop
00:09:48.140for a barbecue on a commemoration of one of the most important small unit actions in American
00:09:57.100history. And this is where the Marylanders made a series of bayonet charges against a fixed position
00:10:03.400with General Cornwallis that allowed the bulk of Washington's army to escape
00:10:11.400to entrenchments in Brooklyn Heights, it was, as one contemporary historian would put it,
00:10:17.840it was an hour more precious in our history than any other, because it was a distraction
00:10:22.220that prevented the major wings, which were thousands strong, of the Hessian forces,
00:10:28.960as well as the crown forces, from uniting, and then therefore crushing Washington's defenses
00:10:35.640at brooklyn and had they done that the revolution would have probably ended that day because
00:10:43.960washington would have been captured and then there would have been about 10 000 americans
00:10:48.280that were captured as well so this series of bayonet charges against a stone near a stone house
00:10:55.580is really one of the great until i wrote the book washington's immortals which is on the
00:11:04.060Maryland line was really a truly an untold story and we're going there on on on Thursday night
00:11:12.400nearly to the hour Steve where these men make this bayonet charges and it's also a very special
00:11:19.180place because it's near where they fought but it's also the suspected mass grave of where many of
00:11:25.960these men still the remains of some of these men the some of the great families of the south from
00:11:33.000maryland um wouldn't had never come home and it's their final resting place
00:11:37.700so hold it so hold it 250 years ago we have 32 000 combat troops basically today still on staten
00:11:47.260island including 8 000 mercenaries hessians renowned global badasses right they're hired
00:11:53.440to come over because one the saxony i think is broke they need the cash and they're farming
00:11:58.800these guys out and the brits realize there's going to be some heavy lifting here so they're0.84
00:12:02.520going to get the germans to help them although their army is pound for pound as nasty as you can0.83
00:12:07.340get they're about to embark to go to sheepshead bay in brooklyn and start a massive maneuver0.99
00:12:13.680warfare to swing around long island and then to cut roll up the army and then get to really i guess
00:12:21.200through jamaica and these other uh these other thoroughfares get up to essentially brooklyn
00:12:28.400heights or where washington's guys have backed up to which is against the east river the thing
00:12:34.420that stops them and slows them down long enough is the american thermopoly and just like the greeks
00:12:40.240did against the wait for it persians you hear about that at one o'clock today just like they
00:12:46.340did at the original thermopoly a handful of spartans i think uh go in and slow stop and slow
00:12:54.040them down that's what these marylanders were basically it's kind of go tell the spartans
00:12:59.380right these guys gave their lives for essentially a holding action that they realized was a suicide
00:13:05.000mission of time and time again charging to stop these british regulars from advancing sir
00:13:10.700well it's it's it's that as well as also uh let me just sort of back up slightly that you know
00:13:18.920So this is a situation where you have the largest naval armada in history up until this point, as well as almost over half the British Army, as well as this massive Hessian force of over 10,000 men descend upon North America to crush the rebellion, which is only less than a year old at this, more than a year old at this point.
00:13:42.760and they're going to crush it militarily and they descend upon as you mentioned gravesend bay
00:13:48.540they land at long island or and they begin to mass where washington divides his army half of it is
00:13:56.300is in brooklyn or long island the other half is in man and he doesn't know where the british are
00:14:01.000going to land and it's here that they position um about a 3 000 men um on this rocky spur called
00:14:09.280the heights of guanus and today's this is today's greenwood cemetery and uh greenwood cemetery is
00:14:16.960kind of the who's who that's buried in new york city uh boss tweet etc and the battle opens up
00:14:24.060with a an action near greenwood and it's it begins on the night of august 26th at the red lion inn
00:14:32.440and it's this is the western gate of greenwood cemetery where there's a mark for the devil
00:14:38.660hang on one second i want to make sure you get lots of runway to do this
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00:18:09.880o'donnell when we get to the punchline sir you're going to have this event on thursday we're going
00:18:16.360to cover it because it's that important on the very night of the 250th it's not simply a mass
00:18:22.700grave that they're buried in it's a mass unmarked grave how did they end up there after the american
00:18:29.660thermopoly sir that's one of the enduring mysteries in american history steve we do not know there
00:18:38.000were 256 continental soldiers that were missing after this charge. Many of them were killed.
00:18:47.380Many of them were captured. And those that were captured would be placed on floating concentration
00:18:52.900camps in New York Harbor. And most of them would never be seen again. But those that fell nearby,
00:19:00.920near the Stone House and also near the Michael Raleigh American Legion post,
00:19:05.780they're suspected of being buried nearby there's a lot of archaeological digs that were conducted
00:19:14.100you know decades ago there's evidence that have been gathered where the mass grave of these men
00:19:19.760are somewhere and it's probably multiple mass graves within you know the underneath the sidewalk
00:19:27.900or underneath the you know some of the you know the urban area in the park slope area in brooklyn
00:19:34.320and there's also the guanus canal which is nearby which was at the time it was a it was a mill pond
00:19:42.020um and a swampy area and many of these men would have to when they made the charge uh portions of
00:19:49.980the army also escaped through that and uh you know it was a extremely treacherous position
00:19:55.880and many drowned from the water itself.
00:20:03.820How did we, by the way, make the case that this is what,
00:20:06.900if it had not been for these 256 heroes
00:20:10.520that willingly gave their lives to stop this,
00:20:16.860to stop this onslaught by this incredibly professional
00:20:20.500British regulars, why did this save the Republic?
00:20:25.640Because if this hadn't happened and we'd gotten rolled up, the republic or the independence of the United States would have gone for about less than 60 days, sir.
00:20:36.080History and battles often turn on small events, Steve.
00:20:40.220And this is certainly one of those situations where the actions of a small number of individuals can change history.
00:20:47.660And this event, like, for instance, at Gettysburg, where you have the first U.S. sharpshooters make a delaying action before, you know, the ground at Little Round Top, minutes more important than any other there.
00:21:03.160It's very similar here where a historian at the time would say, this is an hour more precious in our history than any other because it's a delaying action.
00:21:13.120It prevents not only the – the most important part is it prevents the massive wings of this army from uniting and then going after the British – the American entrenchments at Brooklyn Heights.
00:21:27.680And had they done that, it would have been the end of the war.
00:21:31.020And I mean, then it links up to the great American, the American escape, the American Dunkirk, where the Indispensables and Glover's men will ferry the army across the East River.
00:21:46.060But it's here that the, in Brooklyn, that the army is concentrated and trapped. And if they're able to deliver that crushing blow, it will end the War of Independence.
00:21:56.740and you know this this story is is so so precious and important and you know i think it's it's i
00:22:05.640have an article out in breitbart on wednesday august 26th is the beginning of the battle
00:22:11.080and it begins in the most you know unique place it begins in a watermelon patch at the gates
00:22:17.860of today's greenwood cemetery at the red line in where there's these sort of there's a watermelon
00:22:24.120patch the the owner of the the red line implants them for tourists there's a a rock with the hoof
00:22:31.140of a devil that's what they say is a local lore but british scouts are probing that night on the
00:22:37.34026th and they find the watermelons they try to seize them but what they do they end up is they
00:22:42.780run up they end up running into the revolutionary snipers of edward hans pennsylvanians were armed
00:22:49.520with the widow makers of the Pennsylvania long rifles. And these men repel the scouts.
00:22:56.020It's the first shots of this battle. And then the entire thing unfolds. And what you have is a
00:23:03.360massive flanking maneuver. As you mentioned earlier, the British, nearly 10,000 strong,
00:23:09.480are going through the Jamaica Pass, which is largely unguarded by American forces.
00:23:14.040They move through after seizing several men on horseback that are there to watch the past, and then they move around the heights of Iguanas, where the Greenwood Cemetery is located, and they come in from behind.
00:23:28.720And they are surrounding thousands of Americans in this massive planking maneuver.
00:23:33.200And these men first repel the British at Greenwood Cemetery, and then they are fighting for their lives to break out.0.58
00:23:43.680But it's here near the Stone House, near the Michael Raleigh American Legion Post in Park Slope, that they make the American Thermopylae.
00:23:53.440this is several companies of marylanders the maryland 400 it's called that are under uh a
00:24:01.340lord sterling who's a an american uh general and they are directed to make the charge against the
00:24:08.440stone house and they allow a large portion of the army to escape but they also prevent these
00:24:14.600wings from uniting and in there was as a result they you had uh many of them are 300 spartans
00:24:20.700never seen again yes you had 300 spartans and you had 400 marylanders real quickly on thursday
00:24:29.140can the public attend this where is it going to be absolutely and what kind of access do we have
00:24:33.920if war and posse wants to show up it's it's at the michael raleigh american legion post you can uh
00:24:40.460everybody just go on the brooklyn gop website you can get tickets to go and uh yeah we'd love to
00:24:47.540have the the war room and uh we start at 5 30 and um i'll be speaking at six and just in there
00:24:57.560there'll be a few other speakers i believe but i'll be the keynote sort of laying out what what1.00
00:25:02.980happened that that uh historic day and how the country was saved by these uh intrepid marylanders
00:25:10.600amazing uh can we get the poster up and let's make sure we circulate it anybody yeah my1.00
00:25:17.460My ticket's going to be the American Legion Post.
00:25:20.320My stuff, it's also on my Twitter handle, at Combat Historian.
00:25:25.980All the books are up there, as well as information on this signing.
00:25:29.940I also have one at the Society of Cincinnati,
00:25:32.360which is the oldest patriotic association in D.C. the night before,
00:25:37.660at the Anderson House Mansion downtown near DuPont Circle.
00:30:01.920Okay, a little over an hour at 1 p.m., about 90 minutes around, 1 p.m. from the Treasury Department.
00:30:07.120Scott Besson is going to have a briefing and then take, I think, take questions from the press about this economic D-Day, full-scale economic war against the Persians.
00:30:18.820Let's play a clip. There was kind of a summary of what Scott wrote in the Financial Times over the weekend.
00:30:25.560He said, total financial isolation can obviate the need for American force while enlarging the sphere of freedom for our allies.0.71
00:30:33.500Later in the op-ed, he writes, the world should understand that our objective is to sever every economic lifeline that sustains the tyrannical regime until Iran stands alone.
00:30:47.860OK, Neil McCabe at the White House, your understanding of what's going to be laid out today in about 90 minutes at the Treasury Department, it should be noted it's not the White House, it's not in the Oval Office, it's not in the Roosevelt Room, it's not in the East Room.
00:31:03.500It's over at Treasury with Scott Besson, not Scott Besson, and the President of the United States.
00:35:39.600So this just ends up becoming a part of the escalatory spiral rather than something that ends this conflict.
00:35:48.620Talk to me for a second about the, because you've often talked about the folks in charge.
00:35:54.240It appears to an outsider that you now have a hardened, tough, younger kind of military junta that's running the deal.
00:36:04.800It seems like maybe the Ayatollah and the mullahs are not as directly involved in things as the post-decapitation Revolutionary Guard with younger, tougher commanders.
00:36:17.140Is that essentially what we're dealing with?
00:36:18.920We're dealing now with essentially a militarized state.
00:36:22.120This is a military junta, and these guys are going to fight it out to the end?
00:36:27.380It is, in many ways, an increasingly militarized state, yes.
00:36:31.620I wouldn't call them a junta, though, because junta kind of gives the impression that there's some sort of a clique of people that are kind of completely disconnected from the rest of society.
00:36:40.880If there's anything we should have learned out of these last six or so months is that this is a system that they have there.
00:36:47.420And you can actually take out one third of their top leaders and the system remains.
00:36:52.560If it was a junta, it would have collapsed by now.
00:36:55.500So I think that simplifies it in a way that make this sound much easier than it actually is.
00:37:00.660I think we also have to be very humble in the fact that we just don't know exactly how decisions are being made.
00:37:06.540Several of the people that are now have been put into key positions are actually of the older guard.
00:37:12.200They're not, not to say that they're not tough, et cetera, but they're actually of the older guard, not the younger set of officers that had risen up during the war itself.
00:37:22.160So it's not entirely clear to me whether this is a policy indication or it was just politics that was being played out here in terms of these different designations.
00:37:32.760But I think the overall picture, I think, is very clear, which is that this is currently a system that has decided that it had played too much of a restrained and passive role in the past.
00:37:46.020And now it's going to be much more aggressive, much more risk taking.
00:37:49.600We saw them even attack American bases in Jordan, not in retaliation of an American attack, which had been the pattern up until that point, but now themselves actually taking the initiative.0.84
00:38:00.740And all of this, I think, adds to a picture, completes a picture that says if these sanctions actually are effective in squeezing the Iranians, the most likely response is a counter-escalation by them, which most likely will bring us back into a third round of the war.0.64
00:38:19.600Number one, I thought the Pentagon, the Department of War has been telling us that their offensive capabilities have been eviscerated.0.90
00:38:26.920Are you saying that in this militarized state, either through reinforcement through Pakistan, the Chinese Communist Party, whatever,
00:38:34.600are you saying as we sit here in late August that their offensive capability, whether drones, missiles, combat troops, ability to project power has not been eviscerated?
00:38:45.760not in the slightest i mean okay perhaps slightest is too strong of a word there have been some
00:38:52.320reductions but just take a look what happened in the second round of the war you know one of the
00:38:57.900key things with that attack in jordan was not that they could hit jordan we knew that they've
00:39:03.980been hitting israel you reported yourself how effective they have been there but what was
00:39:08.420really i think shocking to the u.s side on this was that something was going on at that base
00:39:15.160something very sensitive, and the Iranians found out right away. They had real-time intelligence,
00:39:22.320and then they struck the base, effectively getting through all of the layers of air defense systems,
00:39:27.460and did a significant amount of damage. I suspect, I don't have data on this, but I suspect that it
00:39:32.440was part of the success the Iranians had, but they've destroyed about one-third of the arsenal0.78
00:39:37.700of the US's MP3, MQ3 Reapers, these drones, very expensive drones, at the cost of $1.5 billion.
00:39:45.160But the issue was that unlike before, when they had satellite images that they probably purchased from the Chinese that gave an idea of what was going on at a base 10 days ago, seven days ago, and then they used that to strike, now they were using intelligence that was raw, which means it was real-time intelligence.
00:40:05.180They knew exactly what was going on in the American base at the time that it was going on, and they struck them.
00:40:11.060So, you know, when you take a look at the larger picture, we're not seeing a situation in which their capabilities have been, you know, completely destroyed.
00:40:19.380And as a result, they don't have any choice but to capitulate or surrender.
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00:45:26.520so trita you've had a pretty good track record here in the war room of having a pretty deep
00:45:33.740understanding of what's going on number one given that this is going to happen in about
00:45:39.300an hour from treasury or neil mccabe who's at the white house is going to be there do it live
00:45:43.320um how do you think this part of it plays out and what would be your recommendation of both sides
00:45:49.000and a lot of people in the united states saying it's time to wrap this thing up uh particularly
00:45:54.020if we can guarantee they're not going to have a nuclear weapon uh how does this how does this play
00:45:59.180out and what's your recommendations look if uh some of these things end up becoming effective
00:46:05.420So, for instance, the administration feels very confident that they have managed to restore a lot of traffic in the Persian Gulf right now by using these VLCCs that can take up to 2 million barrels of oil a day.
00:46:18.960With that, you only need to get about five of them out in a day.
00:46:22.360And then you've covered half of the previous traffic.
00:46:24.940You have another 5 million barrels going through land pipelines through Saudi Arabia, a little bit out of Emirates.
00:46:30.420Emirates, and then you're kind of back to roughly where it was before the war. And as a result,
00:46:37.040this leverage of closing the strait is largely taken away from the Iran. Let's assume that that0.99
00:46:41.360is correct. I'm not entirely convinced that it is or that it's sustainable, but let's assume
00:46:45.200that that is correct. If that is the case, that means the US is now in a stronger position of
00:46:50.240leverage. But what do you do with that leverage? If you're not using it by going back to the
00:46:55.340negotiations and actually try to get a deal that you're happy with, then all you're doing is just
00:47:00.660playing another role, another cycle in this escalatory cycle between the two sides. And this
00:47:05.840is what I'm particularly worried about because the Trump administration has not said what it is that
00:47:09.580they actually want at this point. And if they don't make that clear, the assumption on the Iranian
00:47:13.440side is going to be, OK, they just want complete capitulation. They're never going to agree to
00:47:17.140that. So their response then will be counter escalation. And then we'll go through yet another
00:47:21.640one of these cycles and before you know it we're already at the midterms so i think the thing is
00:47:26.660if you have leverage cash it in at the negotiations okay let me ask you before i know you got to
00:47:33.400bounce if you've had a this kind of combat hardened younger guys and they got some older guys too but
00:47:39.340it's really in your words a militarized state are we talking to the right people are we meeting with
00:47:46.020the right people or who are the right people in your mind that are the people that, as I say,
00:47:51.420not just can make a deal, but can execute and deliver on that deal, sir?
00:47:57.440Look, this is a problem that both sides have with each other. I think we are talking to right people
00:48:02.560because we're talking to the negotiators. Do the negotiators make the final decisions? No,
00:48:08.340they do not. It's a larger system. And within that system, the IRGC is dominant. The Ibanez
00:48:14.040are saying the same thing. They're talking to their negotiators on this side, Kushner and
00:48:18.360Witkoff. Part of the reason why they wanted someone else involved is because they saw that
00:48:23.000Witkoff and Kushner could not deliver Trump, who was the ultimate decision maker. When there were
00:48:27.980negotiations back in February, in which there was a deal on the table that I think actually would
00:48:32.460have been a huge victory for the United States, Kushner and Witkoff told the Iranians that they
00:48:37.340think Trump is going to accept this and that they're going to work on convincing him. But they
00:48:40.640failed. Instead, there was war. So the Iranians are asking themselves the exact same question.
00:48:45.220The issue is there's no other option. You're going to have to deal with the people that comes1.00
00:48:49.440to the negotiating table, but knowing very well they're not the ultimate decision makers,
00:48:53.480and that there's a system on the other side that we don't have full insight into in which the
00:48:57.760decisions are being made. But the only ones you can negotiate are the negotiators. There's been
00:49:02.660attempts by the US to reach out directly to the IRGC. Apparently, that has not been something
00:49:07.500that the RGC agreed to because their system doesn't allow it. Their system says the negotiators
00:49:12.680have to deal with the negotiations. So I think we're getting stuck on these questions too often
00:49:17.480instead of realizing this is what it is. Let's just make sure that the negotiations are successful
00:49:22.940without having any naive beliefs that the foreign minister, for instance,
00:49:26.380would be the ultimate decision making. That is almost never the case in a negotiation.
00:49:30.320treat up where do people uh get your information where they go for your writings uh your twitter
00:49:38.980feed all of it particularly as this thing after this afternoon i'm sure is going to heat up sir
00:49:44.460yes they can go to the quincy institute's website which is quincy inst.org i write a lot about this
00:49:51.480just in the last week on my sub stack which is very simple treat up rc.substack.com
00:49:56.380and then they can also follow me on twitter which is tparsy
00:50:00.320trita thanks uh for carving out time thanks so much really appreciate today really appreciate
00:51:15.040They had a five month supply, but they've been sharing it with their neighbors.
00:51:19.940And so that that five month supply is dwindling.
00:51:22.620And so we'll see how the Chinese respond to Treasury Secretary Scott Besson today.
00:51:28.740But the Iranians have already sort of pre-buddled the announcement.0.85
00:51:33.300And they're saying that there will be seismic consequences for those people who cooperate with the United States in this return of economic fury, Steve.
00:52:22.000We're going to have a response on what's happening on the second number, plus so much more data centers, flock cameras, surveillance, intensity of support from President Trump in the MAGA movement throughout the country.