00:00:01.000Time is a very interesting thing, and if you meticulously plan out your day, there's so much waste in people's schedule, right?
00:00:07.840How much time do things actually take?
00:00:10.000Do you really need two hours for a meeting?
00:00:12.100Do you really need an hour and a half for that?
00:00:14.220And so I'm like a time efficiency maximalist, and I still get nine to ten hours of sleep at night amazingly.
00:00:20.400I didn't realize that motivation and drive and grit and hustle was actually an exceptional quality.
00:00:27.980and so then quickly I realized like whoa I'm just gonna outwork everybody like I'm not the most
00:00:34.200charismatic person you know I can speak I got a good thing going but I'm not the most I'm not the
00:00:39.840smartest person and go to Harvard Law right um I don't have the highest IQ but I I can compete
00:00:46.300with the best of them but I am gonna outwork you like I'll put in more hours I'll read more books
00:00:50.320I'll listen to more podcasts like I will do more meetings we'll travel to more cities like that I
00:00:55.500can do um a more personal question on the idea of like christian newton you being a very devout
00:01:00.500christian um i remember speaking to your assistant during the vacation and he's saying you don't
00:01:04.940respond on a sunday because you participate saturday actually yes yeah that's right yeah
00:01:09.520that's very astute yeah so kind of like more why do you kind of like is that something you've taken
00:01:14.580from the jewish tradition now i really like you uh now you ask the best question anyone's ever
00:01:18.360i could talk about the sabbath all day long um i don't know if anyone is interested in this so
00:01:22.700you could roll your eyes, but I, I am, I'm a Christian. So whether or not we're bound to the
00:01:27.000Jewish Sabbath is hotly debated. There's great arguments for great arguments against. I'm
00:01:30.140actually writing a book right now on why I honor the Sabbath. It's very simple. It's called stop
00:01:33.960in the name of God. Why honoring the Sabbath will change the world basically. And it is an argument
00:01:38.300that in this hyper materialistic, very fast, digitally frenzied world, that there is this,
00:01:44.980there is this gift that I believe the Lord gave the Hebrews that we have decided to just gloss
00:01:50.420sober. And it's very simple. It's that for one day you will stop, that it will be holy, that it
00:01:56.360will be different. For those of you that are agnostic or not Christian, I still encourage you
00:02:00.040to do this. People that honor the Sabbath live longer. We know this with the Seventh-day Adventists.
00:02:04.860They actually are happier. They have better health outcomes. Everything about disconnecting
00:02:09.640from modernity is good for you. It isn't arguable. This is a material fact, but why is it that we
00:02:14.160have forgotten it? Well, for me personally, I worked like crazy for six days. On Friday night,
00:02:18.760even Sunday morning, I turn my phone off and I try to stop. I try to make it distinct. I try to
00:02:22.560make it different. It's where I do my best thinking. It's where I do my best time with my
00:02:25.640family. Um, and again, this kind of goes back to, okay, we're trying to create all this new stuff
00:02:30.240like, wow, we're gonna have this new technological intervention, innovation. We're gonna have this
00:02:33.340vaccine and we're going to be a solve this with quantum mechanics and quantum computing. And I'm
00:02:37.960kind of like, honestly, something was told to us on Sinai that we shouldn't forget that like you
00:02:43.680shouldn't work for seven days in the retelling of the 10 commandments in the book of Deuteronomy.
00:02:48.040The only difference of the retelling of the Ten Commandments is when Moses says, hey, you shouldn't work seven days because you're no longer a slave.
00:02:56.820What Moses is saying is like only slaves work for seven days, actually.
00:03:00.240And we in the West have kind of been slaves to our work.
00:03:02.120And I say this as a free market capitalist.
00:08:04.1007th September, the year of our Lord, 2026. I want to welcome you for our special,
00:08:09.560our Labor Day special. I thought it'd be very important on Labor Day to talk about work.
00:08:15.120And most importantly, to honor one of the greatest Americans of the 21st century, Charlie Kirk, to talk about Charlie Kirk and his work ethic.
00:08:25.420Because of everything else that Charlie manifested in Charlie's life and his endeavors, the basics and core of it, obviously, besides his faith and his faith in God, it was predicated upon that good old Protestant work ethic.
00:09:07.000And I want to make sure everybody knows
00:09:08.660which way to go and how to get the real one right that we're coming out with talk to me about charlie
00:09:14.080kirk how many years you knew him and about the work of charlie kirk i mean from breitbart to
00:09:20.340going on to be the body man for for don jr and eric in the trump 2016 campaign to uh everything
00:09:27.720during the start of turning point and going with donors and everything in the early years then
00:09:32.260the Real America, his podcast, Real America's Voice, to lead up to the 2024 election. Then
00:09:38.540his time in the White House, people don't know, the transition team, and then his time in the
00:09:42.340White House with Sergio, making sure all the personnel was taken care of, and that the MAGA
00:09:48.160cause, and particularly the America First cause, was always at the forefront. When you look at
00:09:53.100everything with Charlie, it's all about work. I mean, because every endeavor he had never started
00:10:00.020off with a bang it started off with a grind and he would grind until he would make it perfect jack
00:10:05.580basobic dots and observations steve kirk the workout you know steve it's it's it's uh i love
00:10:12.840the fact that war room is doing this i love the fact that war room is is putting on focus on the
00:10:17.040work ethic of charlie kirk because you would never meet anyone in this world that could outwork
00:10:22.880charlie it's not possible that don't they don't exist they're not on this planet uh i think i
00:10:29.520think the only people who who might come close are uh are Donald Trump and Stephen K. Bannon
00:10:34.760and you know the idea is no no no hang on I want to say I want to say something I want to say
00:10:40.360something hang on that's yeah I've met I've had a chance of working with him at three people
00:10:44.400and Andrew Breitbart Charlie Kirk and Donald Trump all of them the foundational element was
00:10:52.660work and I mean grinding work because people see him you know Andrew Breitbart with all all the
00:10:57.360pizzazz Breitbart and he just took over a room. Donald Trump, obviously on a stage, Charlie Kirk
00:11:02.720out the returning point. They see the surface. They don't understand that underneath is grinding
00:11:08.800every minute of everyday work. Jack Posobiec. So Charlie was highly regimented, and this is how
00:11:15.240he was able to do everything he did. Every event, every meeting, every phone call, every minute of
00:11:20.980his day would be scheduled out and grinding. And of course, for folks who know the, you know,
00:11:26.180of course he would take the saturdays it's okay so saturday because he would do you know the
00:11:30.580sabbath and he would turn the phone off and i remember i got to spend one of those saturdays
00:11:34.380with him and i said i said you know so charlie because we're at this we're at this thing and i
00:11:38.200was like so what do you do on these saturdays with the phone off you know and you know because
00:11:41.160usually he would take that and be with family but we happen to be away and he goes he goes oh i'm
00:11:46.100working on other stuff he would still be so the one day that he would take off he wouldn't actually
00:11:51.680take off he would just be taking off the communications but you'd see what the guy
00:11:56.300I remember I you know during that transition period when I went down with him Mar-a-Lago
00:12:00.580and the Trump transition office with Sergio and everything and I remember seeing with him because
00:12:05.700we were doing the shows back to back in West Palm and then you know we'd be working to the
00:12:12.000wee hours every morning and then you go back and I would say I remember I seen his texting and
00:12:17.280because he would you know he'd be texting just constantly all always always I remember I asked
00:12:21.200someone say, Charlie, how many text messages do you send in a daily basis, a 24-hour period?
00:12:27.780Looked at me without hesitation. He said 3,000. I said, it's about 3,000. And because of course,
00:12:34.780Charlie, because he would always quantify things. He was very big on numbers. He was very big on
00:12:38.480understanding metrics and all of his social media followers. He'd tell you every single one,
00:12:42.840exactly how many followers on each platform. And it was all quantifiable. It was all down
00:12:48.100to numbers, it was all down to metrics down to the way that he ate, the way that he would be
00:12:52.880biohacking. And so all of it was meant for a purpose. There, everything was purposeful,
00:12:58.640everything was deliberate, there was no, you know, wasted time, there's no wasted effort,
00:13:02.700there's no wasted energy. Like if he was going to be with family, I'm going to be with family,
00:13:06.820and I'm not going to work for, you know, two hours or whatever it is, whatever set aside for
00:13:10.800family, because this is family time, and he would be poor himself 100% into that. So whatever he
00:13:17.180was focused on, he would put 100% of his focus on it. And that's something that you would never see
00:13:23.660Charlie have an issue with. Also, I will, I will, I will add this in that Charlie, even in terms of
00:13:30.940his work ethic, would also use sleep as part of his work ethic. And let me explain why that is.
00:13:37.300Charlie wasn't on caffeine for I want to say about an entire year for about that year or so.
00:13:43.020All those cups, you know, it was tea. That wasn't coffee. And Charlie was big on sleep, and he understood the importance of sleep, how it made you healthier, how it helped rejuvenate you. And, you know, not to let too much out of the bag, but, you know, he would be known to take power naps from time to time.
00:14:01.920But here's the way he looked at it. He said, this is going to be healthier than slamming energy drink after energy drink, drinking all the coffee. It would actually make him be able to work better and to work longer. And that's exactly what he did.
00:14:17.080So he would say, okay, I'm going to close my eyes for 15 minutes, and then boom, would be right back at it.
00:14:21.940So people need to understand, it was a 24-7 operation, 24-7.
00:14:27.040And from the minute he woke up, he's firing off Bible quotes to people on those days that he would take the day off his phone.
00:14:33.500He'd be sitting, he'd be reading the Bible, he'd be studying Deuteronomy, he'd be listening to a three-hour Hillsdale, you know, course on the Old Testament or something.
00:14:43.240And he'd pass it over and say, oh, Jack, you got to you got to listen to this entire thing by Monday and then come on the show and talk about it.
00:14:49.220I said, oh, yeah, Charlie, I'll get right on that.
00:14:51.200You know, we'll we'll be right on there.
00:14:53.800Or he'd pass me this, you know, darkness at noon and say, Jack, have this whole book read by by tomorrow because we've got to do it.
00:14:59.800You don't wait until your house is on fire to install a smoke detector.
00:15:03.300And you don't wait until the wind and rain hammer your windows and the power goes out to prepare for a hurricane.
00:15:10.780And you don't reach for your seatbelt after the impact because after the crash, the hurricane, or the house fire, it's too late.
00:15:19.760Similarly, you don't wait until the dollar goes to zero before you buy gold.
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00:17:23.420uh jack basobic charlie because you saw it and you saw the pressure and the tension particularly
00:17:31.060as Charlie and the work of all these years start to manifest itself and him becoming essentially
00:17:36.300not just an American figure, but a global figure, the pressure that comes with that,
00:17:40.020the attacks on him, but underneath it, this work ethic, and he made it look effortless.
00:17:47.680It was just kind of like, almost like Zen com. It was very hard to rattle Charlie. At least it
00:17:52.920looked from the outside, you being the wingman, you and Andrew and Tyler and the other team may
00:17:57.660have seen it differently but tell me about that tell the audience about it uh well well steve yeah
00:18:03.040i i could think of a few moments uh like i could for example i could think of when the biden regime
00:18:07.660would um you know we'd be holding a turning point event down in in west palm beach and and in the
00:18:14.740middle of summer because of course you go to west palm in the middle of summer that's what charlie
00:18:17.680would do he say oh it's cheaper then you know so and uh to get the uh the convention center
00:18:22.720and it's it's it's so oppressively hot and i remember when the biden regime did that
00:18:28.840we uh we had i think it was the president coming in and so we had secret service but they only
00:18:34.400afforded us one set of magnetometers for the entire event for the entire west palm convention
00:18:41.120center oh my god i remember i remember that oh my lord i remember this hold on hold on go back to
00:18:47.320Go back to the dude. Go back to that story. It's amazing. This was this was Biden putting into Charlie Kirk.
00:18:55.000Right. So Biden was putting it, putting it in. And so I'm sitting there going out and I said, what's what's the deal with this line out here?
00:19:02.480He goes, what line is it? There's this there's the whole line of people.
00:19:05.360They can't get in. And, you know, they're all outside and it's oppressively hot.
00:19:09.760Plus, you got people dressed very nicely. They always dress nice for turning point events.
00:19:13.340You got got women in dresses. You got guys in suits. And we find out what happened is that there's only one set of magnetometers, the metal detectors for the entire convention center.
00:19:23.940So you got hundreds of people just waiting outside in this oppressive, incredible humidity, this heat.
00:19:30.880And so Charlie and a boy, I let me let me just say Charlie was, you know, he was he was calm a lot of the time.
00:19:37.720But this, this, this one almost got, it got to him a little bit. He, uh, he almost, almost came a little uncommon this one, but he said, all right, here's what we're going to do. He goes, he goes, Jack, could you, you know, could you just go and like maybe talk to them? I said, what do you mean talk to them? He said, just, you know, go. Cause there was this one spot where you could, it was like above the escalator where you could sort of look down as they came into the atrium. And I said, sure, I'll, I'll, I'll go up and I'll make some kind of address.
00:20:02.980So I go up and I'm trying to explain what's going on to everybody.
00:20:05.960And I remember I had Jack-Jack with me and we were sort of just getting people to cheer,
00:20:30.420every single person in the line i have no idea what was on his schedule what he had you know
00:20:36.240originally because because during these events people understand backstage charlie would be it
00:20:40.240was podcast after podcast interview after interview he'd have donor meetings he'd have you know you
00:20:45.820know phone call with the white house whatever it is or not not white house during this time but
00:20:49.700you know phone call with president trump or or whoever and and it was boom boom boom so there
00:20:54.520was no moment where he was just sort of hanging back plus you're running the event too so if
00:20:58.820something goes on on stage he's got to put out a fire or someone doesn't show up or somebody says
00:21:03.000something crazy you get a guy like uh poso goes up start throwing out white boy summer hats you
00:21:07.780know and and but hang on i want everybody to understand yeah particularly amfet you look at
00:21:13.260the scale amfest and yeah but the am yeah he goes out and shakes i mean this is charlie is best
00:21:20.620you look at amfest and if you're on stage amfest the thing is massive it's it's it's so coordinated
00:21:27.240but the pressure just to do that right and he's kind of like the master of ceremonies for
00:21:32.040all three four days behind the scenes he's always first and last on charlie because he
00:21:37.620he he would not he and i would do a one hour like podcast but also for uh for some of the big donors
00:21:45.080that actually help amfest go on we do an hour but it was like an assembly line he's so i said people
00:21:51.060don't understand he's overseeing this thing he's running it right he's doing the mc and coordinating
00:21:56.660all of it but behind the scenes he's eight hours nine hours a day either in meetings
00:22:01.900with the young people or doing donor meetings or or doing podcasts sir
00:22:06.940right and then and then he'll he would get off that or he'd get off stage or or walk back out
00:22:12.820and now he's boom he's got an hour-long line of people that want to do a meet and greet and he's
00:22:17.980he's snapping selfies and he's signing books and uh you know whatever else he is during that then
00:22:22.860he's boom. Now he's on stage. Now, a lot of the time he'd be conducting an interview or he would
00:22:27.340be conducting a, you know, a panel moderating something and keep in mind that he's got to be,
00:22:32.220you know, obviously abreast of all these issues. And this, this is a key thing that people,
00:22:36.280you know, you want to go behind the scenes a little bit is whenever he wasn't directly
00:22:41.600focused on creating some piece of content or meeting with somebody, whether it be from,
00:22:47.600from, you know, the richest man in the world to, to, to a student volunteer that just showed up
00:22:52.360from high school, you know, Charlie would be reading, he'd be reading news, he'd be reading
00:22:56.360books, he'd be learning statistics, he'd be learning facts. And when he would go out on these
00:23:00.800tours, of course, you know, he would, you know, they would kind of have in the Navy, we used to
00:23:06.900call it murder boarding, right? We would say, it would say you're getting ready for, you know,
00:23:10.880your big briefing to the Admiral or for the CEO. And so you'd have to get up there and, you know,
00:23:16.540give your briefing and someone's firing as many questions as they can, making it as hard as
00:23:20.160possible for you to get through your presentation. And that's what Charlie would be doing. He'd be
00:23:24.160getting ready for these by arguing with people, debating with people, sparring with folks,
00:23:30.700perhaps yours truly here and there, and going through what potential arguments is he going to
00:23:37.140face on campus, and then coming up with those responses. And abortion, on race relations, on
00:23:44.560d-e-i okay okay hang on hang on i want people to understand this this is my point about it
00:23:50.520seemed it seemed effortless he he's he's in there with these kids and he always put the toughest
00:23:56.760questions people disagreeing the upfront and the way he respond and the charm that was hours and
00:24:04.880hours and hours of work yes to be prepared and be able to handle that particularly in these tough
00:24:10.480environments tell me about that the murder boarding the process you guys would go through
00:24:13.740Yeah, well, he would have, he would have this giant, his work, he was prepared, like he was prepared, go ahead. And, yeah, he would have binders, he would have notebooks that would be set up when he would go on these tours. And, and each of those, you know, he'd be sort of going through drilling himself over and over and over as he's on his way to get to, to an event as his way to get to one of these things just drill, you know, and, and if something had been, you know, kind of in the news or something, let's say if something had been, you know, debated and raging online,
00:24:43.080And the idea being that, you know, hey, you're probably going to get a couple of questions about that.
00:24:46.900So he would say, hey, what are the best arguments for this? What are the best arguments for that?
00:24:50.240And I remember Blake and Andrew, he was asking them on on 910.
00:24:55.340He was one of the last conversations they had. He said he was saying, give me some of the good arguments for marriage.
00:25:00.140You know, what's a good argument for marriage? What should I say when you're, you know, someone saying marriage is good?
00:25:05.060Why? Give me all give me stats, give me details. And he would have them memorized.
00:25:09.420And so the idea that you're seeing it effortless is because you're looking at a guy who would put 10,000 hours a year into just every piece of what he's doing.
00:25:22.700And so he's putting so much work into it that when you see him up there, he doesn't look like he's flustered.
00:25:29.840He's not worried about any of the questions he's going to be receiving because he's already heard that behind the scenes in preparation for these debates.
00:25:37.660And, you know, Steve, actually, it's, you know, it goes without saying that, obviously, you know, when we did lose him the way that we did during the assassination, obviously, as horrific as it was, one of the big pieces that I always come back to is, man, he had just finished preparing for that tour, right?
00:25:56.280So he had just finished preparing for all those debates that he was going to have going forward.
00:26:00.280He had a debate with Hassan Piker that he had planned for that was going to be in a couple of weeks from when it happened.
00:26:05.860And so he had prepared so much for that.
00:26:08.960He had some international trips to Korea and Japan.
00:26:11.820So he was using that flight time to prepare for it as well.
00:26:14.780And so he was totally and fully prepped.
00:26:17.540It was like he was battle ready when he went out there.
00:26:23.740And we all know the rest of the story.
00:26:25.540But the point is, is that he had done so much work in preparation for that tour and his next series of debates.
00:26:32.460And it always sticks in my craw that, you know, the world will never get to see all of that, which he had done so much work to prepare for.
00:26:43.600Jack, give me a minute here on the book.
00:26:46.040I'm going to hold you through next just for a couple of minutes.
00:26:49.520I know you've got to bounce, but just talk to me about the new Unhumans book and how do people go and make sure they get this one because it's going to be a blockbuster.
00:26:58.340And this is the type of thing Charlie loves.
00:27:01.980Well, thank you, Stephen. And you're right. Charlie loved the first version of this. And he said it was our favorite conversation ever that he had with me talking about the Russian Revolution, because I think a lot of people just don't realize that when you're faced with a socialist revolution, it's something that's different.
00:27:16.820It's something that hasn't occurred before in the United States of America.
00:27:20.980And people want to go back to 1930s Germany and they say, oh, this is like everything.
00:27:25.160But actually, there are things throughout our history that directly parallel what we're seeing now.
00:27:32.340So I mean the Spanish Revolution, the Chinese Revolution, the Chinese Communist Party, the French Revolution, and of course the Bolshevik Revolution in Spain,
00:27:41.200where you see the marxists making their targets subverting society taking over the institutions
00:27:48.340this is exactly what we're seeing now and now the new version which is socialist revolution it has
00:27:54.080the uh i call it the statue of unhumanity on the cover this is the one that you want to get because
00:28:00.360now the update of course the the moral core the central fiber of all of it is the murder of charlie
00:28:06.520Yeah. Hey, hang on one second. You're going to stick with us after the break.
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00:32:01.180And by the way, not just on on nutrition and that element of Maha, but also on vaccines.
00:32:06.940And he was very, very into this new understanding that I think, you know, at the time had just been coming around, that people were saying, you know what, perhaps we have been having this blind faith in the vaccine process for so long.
00:32:21.240And it's it's something that he was very, very delved deep into to the point where this is where, of course, you know, he started getting dinged, of course, on his social media platforms because Facebook and YouTube and all the rest, they did not like what he was saying publicly on vaccines.
00:32:38.780But what I'm trying to say is that behind the scenes, he was he was spending time going study after study.
00:32:44.440He was reading the literature. He was reading the pro, the con.
00:32:47.880He was finding out everything he possibly could on all sides of the argument.
00:32:51.140So so when you would see him say something publicly, when you would see him take a position, he's drilled down so deep on these things that, you know, if you ask him more about it, he's going to already know about this stuff.
00:33:04.820And the courses, he would take these online courses, Hillsdale, Aristotle, Machiavelli with Claremont, I believe he did an online course with that.
00:33:14.920And so he was doing all of these classes and, you know, extra readings and extra work just on the side.
00:33:22.940It wasn't even stuff for public consumption, but it all added to what you saw in public because what you saw in public, it's, you know, to use a cliche, but it was the tip of the iceberg.
00:33:32.400It was just the tip of the iceberg of the depth of knowledge.
00:33:35.860And for people who thought he was was glib, you just I mean, you would see what happens when people try to try to push him on a piece of information and what he was able to do.
00:33:46.040Now, it's one of the reasons he loved your book, The First Unhumans.
00:33:49.980He would love this about the depth of knowledge you tie together.
00:33:53.440That's the Charlie love that type of stuff.
00:33:55.080And we always ask a million questions.
00:33:56.840I want to end with this because I know you get a bounce.
00:33:59.420it's kind of like the duck and underneath that they're paddling like crazy but he had he had a
00:34:05.920calmness about him and particularly going into the cauldron the crucible of these college campus
00:34:11.640folks i can't tell you how tough that is particularly how tough it is to keep your
00:34:16.920calm and have a sense of graciousness i mean charlie was a throwback to another time about
00:34:22.360being a gentleman right for even those people that disagreed with him the most that work on
00:34:26.920himself talk talk about how did charlie get to that place of discipline and self-control that
00:34:32.920takes work to sit there in the crucible of particularly modern marxist uh you know neo
00:34:40.540bolshevik uh college campuses and just be the charlie kirk that everybody knew and loved sir
00:34:47.560well yeah i mean look this was this was uh uh certainly like charlie and i had had certain
00:34:53.220things in common, but this was definitely not one of them. So Charlie is, you know, he was,
00:34:58.240he was, he was a Midwesterner, right? He had this, this Midwest, nice sort of, sort of genteel
00:35:04.260attitude, this idea that, you know, you should always, you know, it's your conflict averse,
00:35:10.760right? You're almost conflict averse. And, and I don't mean to say, obviously he was willing to
00:35:14.760engage a debate, but you know, you didn't want to have these, these conflicts the way that,
00:35:18.760you know, you, you'd see a lot with the Midwest. They call it Midwest. No, he, he was, he was a
00:35:22.940warrior he was a warrior without he was a warrior without turning people off that were just tuning
00:35:28.280in and didn't really know yeah that was and that takes enormous strength and discipline which is a
00:35:33.160totally different kind of thing than you usually see online uh or usually see in a place where i'm
00:35:39.540from which is the philadelphia area where i you know we don't we don't we're we're a little bit
00:35:43.880known for being slightly different than the midwest nice if you're if you're familiar with
00:35:48.080the Eagles fans that raised me. That, you know, we have a slightly different style, especially
00:35:53.860being Slavic. And, you know, it was amazing to see because, you know, there would be times where,
00:35:59.620you know, I've even kind of considered that, you know, I could see how being that happy warrior,
00:36:06.500actually, it was something that he taught me, that you can reach more people this way,
00:36:10.860you can reach more people with being not just not just honest and truthful, but also with having a
00:36:16.400smile on your face by going out there and showing the warmth and showing the love and understanding
00:36:21.640that this is what animates us. It's the love of family. It's the love of our faith, which of
00:36:26.900course, Charlie always put front and center. And that was obviously something that we bonded on
00:36:30.500very quickly. And the love of country and the love of understanding that if we know where we came
00:36:37.600from, what our founding was, how truly, truly extraordinary the founding of the United States
00:36:44.440of America was by the men who did it, why the way and and why they did it in the way that they did
00:36:50.580to understand those, those pieces of it. I mean, we'd be quoting the Federalist papers back to back
00:36:56.440and forth to one another. And then we would switch to the Bible. And then you switch to something
00:37:00.120else. And if you hadn't done the reading, you know, Charlie was quick, he would be very, he's
00:37:03.820very quick, very sharp. And he could tell that if he was talking to someone who didn't understand
00:37:08.100where he was going, he would, you know, he'd say, Okay, and now you're in a new category,
00:37:11.800Right. You know, because you can't hang. And and he would size people up very, very quickly in terms of that.
00:37:17.640And I've always said that, you know, if you go back and watch some some of our thought crime episodes on the times where we would disagree, I say, man, I I miss my miss my sparring partner a lot.
00:37:30.980Big time. It's seems like it was decades ago and then it seems like it just happened yesterday on the one coming up on the one year anniversary.
00:37:39.640Closing thoughts, Jack, before we let you go, sir.
00:37:44.060Look, this is only the only way that we're going to get out of the situation is through working like Charlie and having the Charlie Kirk work ethic.
00:37:53.240And in fact, I think that's what we should just start calling it, the Charlie Kirk work ethic, because it's so phenomenal.
00:37:58.940It was incredible to see. It was incredible to just be a witness to that, to be able to see how he did it every day.
00:38:05.420You know, I remember I mentioned I remember one time, Steve, actually, you were in this and Charlie had he had sent me on this this foreign trip.
00:38:12.240And he said, I want you to go on this thing. You're going to check this thing out.
00:38:14.700And some, you know, Eastern Mediterranean, Eastern Europe kind of whole thing.
00:38:19.800And I'm over there. And then he goes, oh, Jack, now we got to have this great reset conference.
00:38:23.320You got to fly all the way back. I said, Charlie, you want me to fly halfway around the world just so I can get to this conference?
00:38:28.540And then I have to go back. And that's that's what prompted him to say, Jack, how do you think I built Turning Point?
00:38:32.860All right. Get on the plane. And sure, I did.
00:38:35.420And sure I did, because it's it's just that willingness to forego or and by the way, he did the exact.
00:38:42.160I'll tell you another example where he said that was when in the Carrie Lake election, when on her when they stole the election from Carrie Lake.
00:38:49.240And I was like, you know, Charlie, I got this flight to D.C.
00:38:52.300I'm supposed to be back. And we're no, Jack, we're going to recount.
00:38:54.860You got to get up, get on the flight back. Come right back here.
00:38:57.620We got to come in. We got to keep working.
00:38:59.300We got to go and get our nose to the ground, nose to the mat for Carrie Lake.
00:39:03.700And that's exactly right here in Arizona.
00:39:05.420And that's exactly what we did. And so he would, you know, as as a couple of guys tend to do, we would sort of we would sort of push each other to be able to, you know, to to to go harder, to do more.
00:39:17.820And some of the marathon live streams that we would do 12 hours, 13 hours, 14 hours on election days, it's it's something that I don't think people realize that, look, I'm not saying it's as hard as as manual labor or anything like that.
00:39:29.540But that's a lot of time. And Charlie would sit there and he would do it with grace and he would smile and he'd be happy, even his sleep deprived and everything else as he was.
00:39:38.360And the goal, right? Why was he able to do this? And it's very simple. Because he had a purpose. Because he had a why. Because he understood what he was fighting for.
00:39:48.600If you're fighting for Western civilization, if you're in that fight, if you're fighting for your children, if you've got something to lose, and believe me, I saw Charlie absolutely found the new gear when he met Erica, when they had the kids together.
00:40:00.680He was becoming this just incredible version of himself that we're all very, obviously, very sorely missed that we'll not be able to have that guy in our lives and in our country.
00:40:14.560the charlie kirk work ethic i like that hangs together where they get the book jack
00:40:22.020well thanks so much steve it's it's up at amazon it is up at unhumansbook.com if people want to
00:40:29.120get the special edition president trump came out and endorsed the book recently and of course we're
00:40:33.060very honored to have that the media very very upset that the president has done so but that's
00:40:38.540because we talk about how we're going to win.
00:40:44.060Jack Posobiec, thank you for taking time on this Labor Day
00:40:47.340to join us in commemoration of the Charlie Kirk, the work ethic.
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