Bannon's War Room - September 28, 2026


Episode 5694： Building The True Grassroots Network; Battleground States And Competitive House Seats

Topics
ravpool.org launch & mission ravpool.org
Hosted by
Steve Bannon
Mentioned
Steve Dace Trump Alex DeGrasse Charles C.W. Cook Philip Patrick Steve Stern Martha Raddatz Bobby Kennedy Charlie Kirk Pete Hegseth Benny Ray Harmony Stephen K. Mann Andrew Breitbart Taylor Mitchell Natalie Werners Jonathan Karl Candace Owens Allison Graff Caroline Wren Mike Lindell and 20 more
Episode 5692： President Trump Heads To Tennessee GameDay; RAV Takes Pool Feed Episode 5697： President Trump Unveils America.gov

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00:00:00 TV pool duty. The first day in living memory that there has not been television pool coverage of
00:00:05 the president. Real America's voice has stepped into the breach minute by minute, hour by hour,
00:00:13 day by day, week by week. We have this thing covered. We're on top of it. We're going to
00:00:17 continue to be on top of it. For the first time in modern press coverage, there is not a TV camera
00:00:23 traveling with the president today. Washington Post, Trump's ban triggers video coverage
00:00:29 halt. I was watching the pool feed last night as President Trump made his trial for return
00:00:33 to Washington, D.C., and I was watching that right on the pool feed, which was provided
00:00:37 by Real America's Voice. We do have the Real America's Voice pool feed, which is up right
00:00:44 now. The Washington Post is printing fake news on the cover this morning. Effective
00:00:51 immediately there will be no pool rotation. In effect, there was no TV pool coverage of the
00:00:58 president's trip to Tennessee this weekend. This has been a very big week for Rav as we've
00:01:06 covered the U.N. in New York and the president of China in Washington, D.C., and now the president
00:01:12 at a big college football game. We can do it all. We can continue to step into that responsibility
00:01:17 when no one else will the white house has replaced the network with two trump friendly outlets
00:01:24 lindell tv and real america's voice is lindell tv of mike lindell a former a very close ally of
00:01:33 the president and then also uh real america's voice are expected to be the secondary pool
00:01:39 for television the question now is are lindell tv and america's radios whatever are they paying
00:01:48 for those seats and if not who is we're not just doing this for rab we're doing it for everybody
00:01:54 we've created a media militia we're going to further expand our capabilities and the public's
00:01:59 access into this president minute by minute second by second updates and hey we can fully provide
00:02:05 24-7 coverage of this. This is such an important, pivotal moment in history. And Rav was built and
00:02:12 bred to fight this fight from day one. And I just have a message for the legacy media.
00:02:17 We are coming for you and we're not going to stop.
00:02:24 It's Monday, 28th, September, year of our Lord, 2026. Of course, over the weekend,
00:02:30 And you saw the mainstream media trying to cover themselves.
00:02:32 Lie. 1.00
00:02:34 Martha Raddatz, that old battle axe over at ABC. 1.00
00:02:39 I don't even know why she still does this Sunday show.
00:02:42 I ought to turn the whole thing, get rid of Stephanopoulos
00:02:44 and turn it all over to Jonathan Karl.
00:02:46 But she's sitting there lying. 0.60
00:02:48 No coverage.
00:02:50 We had a full team, full coverage from Tennessee.
00:02:55 Also, the MSNBC crowd.
00:02:57 Who is paying for this?
00:02:58 we'd like to know who's paying for this we're paying for this because we put up a great pool
00:03:06 feed real america's voice uh unbelievable we got more announcements today parker is parker with us
00:03:11 parker sig joins us parker big first off answer those two questions martha raddatz hey there's
00:03:19 not even coverage you turn it over these guys they don't have coverage in the tennessee trip
00:03:23 number two we'll deal with that one first then we'll get to uh oh who's paying for this we need
00:03:29 to know who's paying for this parker sig observations before we get into breaking news 0.91
00:03:35 about our coverage yeah no absolutely steve it's it's ridiculous it's ridiculous to see 0.85
00:03:42 how persistent and consistent the lies are coming out of the legacy media uh talking about
00:03:48 no media coverage, no TV coverage of the president throughout this duration of time.
00:03:55 Clearly, everybody was able to see we were there. We were covering it. We were providing live feeds
00:04:01 at every moment we could of the president and this trip in particular and the moments before
00:04:08 the trip. So it's just completely ridiculous. And I wonder sometimes they talk about 0.94
00:04:14 the lack of TV coverage of the president, I would have to imagine that they know this already and
00:04:22 they're just avoiding it. But we do also have standardized cable broadcasting with Real
00:04:27 America's Voice. We are up on Dish Network as well. So if they want to check the box for the
00:04:33 OTT platforms and say that's not TV coverage, so be it. But we have TV coverage of this as well.
00:04:40 And again, I think we did a bang up job getting this coverage out to everybody.
00:04:46 But hang on. Hang on. I want to folks, because this is where you really see they lie about everything.
00:04:52 And it's total Trump derangement syndrome. And they're so pissed that there's coverage and great coverage that they're beside themselves.
00:05:00 Now it's go, oh, they don't have coverage. They can't do it. Somebody else is paying for it. That's their new thing.
00:05:05 I want to go back just to the coverage itself. The other day, I think it was ABC or CNN.
00:05:10 step back in when they were allowed back in, had the feed. They put up tiny clips and they're hard
00:05:15 to get to. We have a totally different system. Our systems, you put it up and I want you explain
00:05:20 to people it's for the world. Right. And it's getting massive volume because this is not the
00:05:25 way they do a pool feed. Their pool feed is kind of these like little clips. Correct. I mean,
00:05:30 you're actually seeing the president and all the activity around the White House up close and
00:05:35 personal, sir? Yeah, no, absolutely. I mean, there is a clear and concise differentiator between
00:05:42 what we do and what they do. It's very, like you said, short clips that are a lot of times
00:05:47 delayed from going public. Again, a lot of it is restricted from the general public. Certain small
00:05:54 pockets of media outlets may potentially receive some of this footage on a delay, whereas what
00:06:02 we've gone and done is every moment that we can go provide in real time, we do that. Obviously,
00:06:08 there are certain windows of time where for security reasons, safety reasons, you do have
00:06:13 to put things on a delay. But it's not every single time. It's not every single time you have
00:06:19 a camera out with the president. There's certain windows of time with arrivals and departures that
00:06:24 the Secret Service wants you to be considerate of. And absolutely, we will continue to do that.
00:06:30 But it's a whole different ballgame, what we're doing versus what they're doing. And again, being able to provide it to everybody, right? The general public, even the legacy media, which is still, you know, not for nothing, has refused to reach out to us throughout that last week and going into the weekend.
00:06:49 And it's for big networks, small networks, independent journalists, the general public.
00:06:55 And it really is minute by minute coverage of this White House and of this administration.
00:07:01 Now, the reason I love you, see you got like Nick Sartor, who's fantastic and a guy that hustles nonstop, which I love about it.
00:07:08 He's putting up stuff all the time.
00:07:10 Now, we have additional announcements today that you're going to make to even make it because we want to like in the war.
00:07:18 I keep telling people, hey, for our sponsors or when we have guests, go immerse yourself in the information.
00:07:24 The War Room posse and the War Room audience is best in using their agency when they're fully armed and they want to drill down to the receipts.
00:07:33 Talk to me about what else Real America's Voice is providing.
00:07:36 We tested, we beta site tested over the weekend and we're launching it, I guess, this morning, sir.
00:07:42 Yeah, absolutely, Steve.
00:07:43 So big announcement this morning. What we're looking to go do and what we have done is we are launching ravpool.org. That's ravpool.org.
00:07:54 And so basically what this is, is this is a one-stop shop for not only the things that we've already been providing this last week and beyond,
00:08:03 But in addition, what's a unique component to this is on ravpool.org, there's a component that the general public may not be aware of called pooler notes.
00:08:14 And that is where the legacy media, when they go out and they do these trips, there is a member on that team who is sending out email updates throughout the day.
00:08:25 Because you can't always go live with a camera, whether there's security reasons or it's just quick movement.
00:08:32 so you can't always go live.
00:08:34 So the legacy media sends out these email updates
00:08:38 throughout the duration of these days.
00:08:41 And I will say, I mean, a lot of times those notes
00:08:45 do have the tendency or possibility to still be skewed
00:08:50 or objective to a certain degree.
00:08:52 And so what we've gone and done on ravpool.org
00:08:55 is we are providing you those same types of updates
00:08:59 textually through this site, through this website. It's mobile, it's iOS. And we're giving
00:09:06 updates throughout the day about the president, where he's at, what he's doing. And it's just
00:09:12 another step in the direction of making the legacy media and their chokehold on this system
00:09:18 obsolete. So people can go over to ravpool.org today. Like you said, we beta tested it over
00:09:24 the weekend, especially with the trip we did on Saturday, giving updates throughout the day,
00:09:30 being able to put up photos, videos, text-based information. And then in addition to that,
00:09:37 if you go onto the site there, you can actually sign up for email alerts. So every time our team
00:09:43 puts an update there on ravpool.org, that'll get an email straight to you. It'll notify you,
00:09:49 And you can really keep up to speed with everything going on with the president in a very, you know, unique and robust way that has not been available to the general public before.
00:10:04 So we've got cameras, we got audio, you've got the best engineers.
00:10:09 We're providing that so you can see it disintermediated from any mainstream media putting their thumb on it.
00:10:15 Like I said, they just put up clips, the whole thing.
00:10:18 Now you've got more information to do. We've got Benny Ray Harmony over there, Taylor Mitchell, Neil McCabe, Natalie Warner's doing all of our investigative reporting.
00:10:27 So you've got a big team, a huge commitment to following the president, making sure people can see it without the spin of the mainstream media.
00:10:35 Parker, the first week has just been extraordinary. How do you anticipate this rolling out?
00:10:39 Because now you've got the mainstream media being beyond snarky.
00:10:43 You saw right there who's by the way, who's paying for real America's voice has put their own capital into this, their own capital assets and the equipment, their own personnel.
00:10:53 We have a big team on this, but it shows you how desperate they are when MSNBC goes, oh, we don't even know who's paying for this.
00:11:01 And also they don't they don't have coverage. Just respond to the mainstream media.
00:11:05 Martha Raddatz and the team over at the team over at MSNBC, sir.
00:11:10 Yeah, no, absolutely, Steve. And like you said, I mean, we're paying for this out of pocket every day.
00:11:17 We've done that since day one, regardless of if it's a trip on Air Force One or just the general media coverage there at the White House.
00:11:25 As everybody knows, there is a cost for these these tickets for these plane seats.
00:11:31 We pay those out of pocket. We're going to continue to do that.
00:11:34 we're doing this because it's our mission and it's our duty to go make this feed available
00:11:42 and be able to provide this unadulterated coverage of the president. And we're prepared
00:11:49 to do that. We've been prepared from day one. We've had to be able to pour a lot of resources,
00:11:54 a lot of time, a lot of money into doing this. We're going to continue to do that.
00:11:59 And I just want to say, I mean, this is just such a testament to the dedication of our team across every aspect, whether it's our on-camera talent, whether it's our behind-the-scenes technical operators.
00:12:12 The dedication there is absolutely magnificent in the sense that everybody here cares so much about what they're doing in the cause at the end of the day.
00:12:24 For example, with Ravpool.org, we put together this fairly sophisticated system in a matter of 24 to 48 hours, went and did the beta testing all throughout the weekend with the goal, again, to make the legacy media and their pool coverage obsolete.
00:12:43 It is not a needed component to be able to provide the general public or other media outlets with wall-to-wall coverage of the president.
00:12:52 So they're going to keep lying.
00:12:54 Their heads are going to keep spinning.
00:12:56 I would be lying if I said I didn't find a little bit of joy in watching the legacy media squirm.
00:13:02 So we can come to expect that.
00:13:04 But every single time that they're going to go put out another blatant lie about us or about this administration,
00:13:11 we're going to be right there to stand up, to silence that lie and show them what the actual truth is.
00:13:17 hang on i want to hold you through the break just for for a minute or two alec degras is going to
00:13:24 join us because we're going to deal with the psyop of a lot of this polling and what they're trying
00:13:28 to do to depress the mega base and depress the vote uh in this midterm election we're starting
00:13:33 the house today caroline run is going to join us for the senate tomorrow but um the the mainstream
00:13:39 the legacy media made a bet when president trump said hey i'm going to ban these following they all
00:13:45 hung together including Fox because they did not they do not understand this is why their coverage
00:13:53 is so bad on the pool feed you know they got a bunch of some of these are union guys have been
00:13:57 around forever and it's not that they're not talented but they've just lost the intensity
00:14:02 and the urgency also the mainstream media only wants the legacy media only wants to show Trump
00:14:08 in the worst possible light they had no earthly idea that that's where that battle axe Martha 1.00
00:14:14 Raditz is throwing out lies. Oh, it's not even 1.00
00:14:16 coverage in Tennessee. Bald-faced lie.
00:14:19 We should get a retraction 0.96
00:14:20 from ABC. I think I'll call over the thing.
00:14:22 So we need a retraction from the battle axe
00:14:24 and an apology. How about that?
00:14:26 They didn't think anybody could step up
00:14:28 and do it. They just thought we were
00:14:30 some guys that cover rallies.
00:14:31 No. We're fully operational to
00:14:34 do it. What I love
00:14:36 so much to do it at an order of
00:14:38 magnitude better
00:14:39 than they do it. That's where they're shocked
00:14:42 and stunned right now. Short commercial break
00:14:44 Parker's going to stick around. We've got a few more questions. Alex DeGrasse in the war room next.
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00:16:19 The MSNBC guy, what they called us, Radio America or something.
00:16:23 They ain't laughing now because they had no earthy idea.
00:16:27 It's one of the reasons we partnered with Rav.
00:16:29 I think in the first week of the war, Rav had done, Rob Sig,
00:16:35 just a guy that knows cable better than anybody,
00:16:38 had come down to the We Build the Wall project.
00:16:39 We did those conferences down there.
00:16:41 In fact, we had Candace Owens in one, Don Jr.,
00:16:43 showing the magnificent wall we built down there
00:16:47 between Juarez and El Paso, Texas.
00:16:49 And the conferences, you remember, Parker, 0.83
00:16:51 you were just a grundoon then,
00:16:54 not the leader of the channel that you are now,
00:16:57 because that was, I don't know, six or seven years ago.
00:17:00 Rav picked up War Room in our first week.
00:17:04 Rob Seag reached out to me and said,
00:17:05 hey, I think this thing could be a big hit on streaming.
00:17:07 Let's go for it, man.
00:17:08 We love what you did with picking up our conferences.
00:17:11 And so you guys were scrappers. But I think they're totally caught by surprise about how big actually the RAV family of channels are on Saturday, because I thought this Northeaster was going to was going to, you know, become an event, you know, with football games and everything.
00:17:26 We had the Weather Nation, one of our affiliated channels, come on and did just an amazing job.
00:17:30 People loved it. But talk about they weren't prepared for a company that's actually more sophisticated in current technology.
00:17:38 the whole thing on cable and streaming it's changed so radically and every day i keep i mean
00:17:44 it's so complicated i just i just look to parker and rob sig to provide the answers to make sure
00:17:50 we get total distribution in a perfect show and and this is why you know i'm always saying hey
00:17:55 the guys in denver first off people thought for years when i was saying denver and yelling
00:17:59 screaming the microphone they thought it was a guy it's the technical headquarters talk to us
00:18:04 about how we could provide this service just with a snap of the fingers and catch the mainstream
00:18:09 legacy media by surprise, sir. Yeah, absolutely. And you're right. I mean, the surprise is one of
00:18:17 the biggest components. I don't think any of them were expecting us to be able to do this and step
00:18:22 up at the level we have. And what they don't realize and what probably a good amount of our
00:18:27 audience doesn't realize is we've been operating in this space for the better part of three decades.
00:18:33 Real America's Voice is an extremely, extremely robust infrastructure, and it spans well beyond RAV itself.
00:18:42 I mean, we've been doing this with Weather Nation. That's our 24 by 7 weather channel.
00:18:46 We've been doing that since early 2010s, and that is an extremely robust weather channel that you've had the folks on before to do storm coverage and other things like that.
00:18:57 That's part of my background. I spent about three to four years before RAV was around actually storm chasing with Weather Nation, going out into hurricanes, tornadoes, you name it.
00:19:08 We have the Pursuit Channel, hunting and fishing.
00:19:12 Obviously, as you know and we've talked about, we've expanded out into RAV Espanol and Real America's Music, and we're doing Real America's Faith and Family.
00:19:21 The ecosystem in which we operate is extremely robust.
00:19:27 We reach out into different areas of people's lives consistently.
00:19:32 The technology is a huge component of us being able to do that.
00:19:36 We operate off of our own proprietary technology that allows us to really distribute at the highest possible capacity throughout anywhere.
00:19:49 The OTT platform, social media, you name it.
00:19:53 So this ecosystem that we've been able to build over the last three decades, it's been like the sleeping giant, right?
00:20:02 We've been lying there and waiting, and we just do our business, and we grow, and we grow, and we grow for moments like this, right?
00:20:10 And the unsuspecting legacy media has gotten completely caught off guard by our capabilities and our abilities to step up and take control of this situation and go do what we have to do for this country, for the people of this country, and for this administration.
00:20:28 And like I've said the last couple times I've been on here, we're not going to stop here, right?
00:20:34 You have the legacy media.
00:20:36 They're starting to make their way back into the infrastructure there.
00:20:40 But that's not going to slow us down.
00:20:41 It's not going to stop us.
00:20:42 That's why we're launching things like ravpool.org.
00:20:45 And we're going to continue putting pressure there.
00:20:48 And before you let me go, I'll just tell everybody else in the audience again, ravpool.org.
00:20:54 That's ravpool.org.
00:20:56 Go check it out.
00:20:58 You go subscribe to it.
00:20:59 It's completely, let me just state this, it's completely free, just like our live feeds
00:21:03 on YouTube and our professional distribution of the feeds. It is completely free. You can sign up
00:21:08 for email updates. Every time we put an update up there, you'll get that email. It'll chime in your
00:21:14 inbox. Uh, the live feed is up there as well for you guys to view pictures, photos, uh, videos,
00:21:20 anything. Uh, all of that stuff is going to go up there. Uh, and we're making that fully available
00:21:26 to everybody for free. And so for independent journalists, everybody's out there scrapping
00:21:32 around you've got now have a major source for content that you can uh that you can use and
00:21:38 and stay on top of things but this this is going to take independent this is a rallying cry for
00:21:43 all the independent journalism look i've been doing this with andrew since 2009 2010 andrew
00:21:50 breitbart and over breitbart breitbart radio and now at war room with the rav folks but this is a
00:21:55 this is a this is a platform and content in a feed that independent journalists just sort of
00:22:00 be jumping all over because obviously you guys can't afford it's so expensive the the capital
00:22:05 cost the fixed cost is so prohibitive and that's what the mainstream media did not get that there
00:22:10 was an alternative out there an alternative media that could because of understanding the one thing
00:22:15 about the sigs they understand the modern distribution business they understand the
00:22:19 modern technology these legacy systems are not just legacy in the hatred of this populist
00:22:25 nationalist movement because they're the established order but they think in an old way
00:22:30 That's why the TV shows are so – that's why if you watch, like, you know, CBS or, you know, NBC or ABC News, it just feels so, you know, not up to date on what's happening.
00:22:40 You get – you can watch a week of that and get, you know, less than three minutes of what you get on The War Room in any segment.
00:22:47 It's just – it's a very antiquated way of looking at it.
00:22:50 When they had – the cartel had total control, but they ain't got control anymore, and they don't like it.
00:22:56 Parker Sig, we're closing in, I think, on 1,000 signups for the email already.
00:23:01 So, folks, get on there and get it right now.
00:23:04 One more time, where do they go to sign up for the email?
00:23:06 We want to get 10,000 or 25,000 people up today on this.
00:23:11 Yeah, Steve, they're going to go, whether it's on their phone, on their computer,
00:23:14 they're going to go to ravpool.org.
00:23:17 That's ravpool.org.
00:23:19 You'll pull right up to that page that you see there on the screen.
00:23:22 There's a little tab up at the top corner there.
00:23:24 sign up for email alerts again completely free easy to use it'll keep you up to date
00:23:31 moment by moment of everything going on with the rav pool team and look I'll just leave you with
00:23:38 one last statement we aren't replacing one gatekeeper with another gatekeeper we are
00:23:45 showing that the gate itself is no longer necessary and that's what we're going to continue to do
00:23:50 very powerful thank you parker sick appreciate you absolutely this is going to segue how long
00:23:58 what's the trt of my open for degrasse roughly okay i'll do that the next break i'm gonna bring
00:24:04 in degrasse i'm gonna do the open a minute here's here's how we're gonna connect the dots right here
00:24:09 alex uh why did war room partner with um with rav and what does rav stand for rav is a platform
00:24:18 As you know, our content is very different than Fox, right?
00:24:22 You can see that from Bowling and Stinch and Solomon and the War Room, Posovic, all of it.
00:24:31 This is a platform that was built really for the grassroots, to make sure the grassroots had a voice and the grassroots had a platform.
00:24:39 Because in a populist nationalist movement, the grassroots is everything.
00:24:43 In the history of this from 2020 and the stolen election and President Trump going into the years in the wilderness,
00:24:51 RAV and War Room being there, hammering every day, the 22 midterm, which, as Allison Graff was on here, did not turn.
00:24:59 We took the House in a monumental win.
00:25:02 We did not get the 35 or 40 seats that we hope, but there's a lesson there even for today.
00:25:08 then an amazing comeback of president trump in the primary and then the 2024 uh election just
00:25:15 incredible why because the grassroots had a platform they had a platform they could come on
00:25:20 and make their case to the public it helped them network uh behind the scenes where i've done so
00:25:25 much not just covering the rallies but more importantly giving a uh giving a means of
00:25:31 communications whether it's the coalition out in vegas whether it's steve stern whether it's the
00:25:37 precinct strategy, whether it's all the grassroots people we've had on here that are trying to take
00:25:41 over the state parties with all that. And now, Alex, I'm going to do the cold open and cook on
00:25:46 the other side. But that's where we are today. I want to make sure everybody understands that
00:25:52 our fate is still in our hands, no matter what the media is telling you, no matter what they're
00:25:56 saying about a blue tsunami, a blue wave. I mean, even Charlie Kirk's not saying that. He's calling
00:26:01 it a red undertow, but he's publicly not coming out and saying it's a blue wave yet or a blue
00:26:06 tsunami. But that PSYOP is out there pretty strongly, Alex DeGrasse. Yeah, I mean, it's all
00:26:12 probably the biggest PSYOP we've probably seen other than maybe the reemergence of Trump
00:26:17 politically as a candidate when they told us it wasn't possible. Now, you know, we do control
00:26:23 our own destiny. Of course, if the base comes out to vote, if you can put your shoulders to the
00:26:27 wheel, if you can man the ramparts, almost in a way, maybe one more time, at least in the Donald
00:26:34 trovera as president right steve but um nothing is decided yet i mean all of this is crazy talk
00:26:41 from people that are absolutely maniacally focused on suppressing the republican vote going into the
00:26:47 midterms because they know all of these races are extremely tight which is the main point i want to
00:26:51 say that i mean these are tight races across the board nothing's out of the game yet everything
00:26:56 will be decided on who gets out to vote and the posse and the grassroots will be the biggest
00:27:01 player in that game of course because no one is better at turning out the vote than us of course
00:27:06 and we just we have to get this done steve and we can we can't give up you know my phone's blown up
00:27:12 this is not hoping you saw this in the reverse in 22 exactly remember we thought we had 30 or 35
00:27:22 seats maybe more in play they were all tight as we expanded the map there you got the same tight
00:27:28 and the democrats did a good job at that time particularly on tiktok with these young women
00:27:34 that was all about the dobbs decision remember and they turned out
00:27:38 and bro v wade and we picked i know when he picked up what we picked up i think 12 15 we
00:27:44 got enough to take the house and make some monumental change first time a speaker was
00:27:48 ever removed in american history so this fights down we're not here to give you hopium hey
00:27:55 It is a struggle, and it's all going to come down to the base, the grassroots MAGA base plus, and that plus is low propensity voters and make America healthy again, which is going to have this huge conference anymore.
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00:29:44 You said you shifted 15 House races toward the Democrats with your prediction that the GOP will take the House.
00:29:50 Yes, my old newsletter did make those rating changes. 0.59
00:29:54 But I would agree.
00:29:55 I agree completely that the House has been kind of a done deal for a good while.
00:30:00 But the Senate a year ago, it wasn't realistic to think that the Senate might flip.
00:30:05 But now it's very realistic.
00:30:08 And where are you seeing them?
00:30:09 We were just in Michigan, obviously, in the Al-Sayed and Mike Rogers race.
00:30:16 Yes.
00:30:16 I think North Carolina, open seat there goes first.
00:30:20 And then you have a whole group of Republican seats, Alaska, Iowa, maybe Kansas.
00:30:28 But at the same time, Democrats are defending Michigan where you were and Wisconsin.
00:30:35 a little bit, and I'm sorry, Minnesota, a little bit, and New Hampshire.
00:30:40 But in Michigan, it's where the focus is on President Trump.
00:30:44 Boy, it's really hurting.
00:30:45 But when you have a Democrat nominee that's somewhat polarizing, controversial,
00:30:51 like you have in Michigan, that takes the attention away from Trump and goes on to the Democrat,
00:30:57 that's where Democrats are struggling some.
00:30:59 And you wrote that this is not a blue wave election, but it is a red undertow, that it won't be about Democrats winning voters as Republicans losing them.
00:31:10 Talk more about that.
00:31:11 Yeah.
00:31:12 I mean, a wave is sort of uniform, very visible, but this is more of an undertow, a root tide that's kind of pulling down, but it's not uniform.
00:31:21 It's hitting some places more than other places, but it isn't pro-Democrat.
00:31:26 It's anti-Trump, basically.
00:31:29 and Republicans that have been supportive of the president.
00:31:32 And what can Republicans do, do you think, to change that in very few weeks we have left here?
00:31:39 There's not a lot you can do.
00:31:40 I mean, the thing is, this is normal.
00:31:42 It's happened to every party in midterm elections where your people get disillusioned and turn out low levels.
00:31:52 The other side is energized, turning out big numbers.
00:31:55 And then those fickle, independent voters in the middle start breaking against you.
00:32:00 And it's just as natural as it could be.
00:32:04 And and we saw this same Obama.
00:32:08 It's actually normal, but this came together so quickly.
00:32:15 And it was almost like the president jumped the shark finally.
00:32:20 And things started coming home to roost that hadn't before.
00:32:24 So just as we sit here today, Charlie, your prediction?
00:32:29 Democrats pick up the House in the 20 seats, a little bit more than that.
00:32:35 And the Senate is probably four right on the nose, three, four, five.
00:32:40 But I'd say net loss of gain of four for Democrats.
00:32:44 So the Senate goes to 51-49.
00:32:47 That seems to be a good guess right this second.
00:32:49 But there's so many really close races that and tight ones really don't break down.
00:32:55 John Cornyn were the nominee. This race would be over.
00:32:58 Hang on one second. Hang on one second. I can't take Karl Rove on top of that.
00:33:06 Alex de Grasse, we certainly have headwinds.
00:33:09 We're not making any argument that the war is not having a massive impact and the prices are not having an impact particularly.
00:33:18 But this this issue is going to come down to the base voter. Right. The low propensity voters, which traditionally don't come out in mass in in midterm elections.
00:33:30 But it's also the Democrats. They're making a bet that independence, their central big bet is that independence and Democrats have supported Trump come out to vote against the Trump candidates.
00:33:44 That's why I think he's saying right now he doesn't see a blue wave or a blue tsunami, but a red undertow, because if they if they just decide to sit out, that's when you really have a fighting chance.
00:33:55 Degrass, walk us through this. Yeah, that's right.
00:33:58 And you haven't seen a lot of voters that are now saying, hey, I'm going to vote Democrat.
00:34:02 Maybe, you know, they voted for Trump in the past.
00:34:04 You know, that's why Democrats are running all these ads where they're finding, you know, maybe one person that they're claiming voted for Trump.
00:34:11 and now they're voting for Democrat
00:34:12 because they're trying to manufacture this narrative
00:34:14 that they're gaining support.
00:34:16 Their party actually has never had worse support
00:34:19 in modern history of polling.
00:34:22 And you look at some of these people they're running, 0.99
00:34:23 I mean, they're psychopaths. 0.94
00:34:25 And many of the other ones don't have anything to say 0.99
00:34:28 about the psychopaths.
00:34:29 And you've got, you know, candidates don't want AOC.
00:34:32 I mean, they're feeling the heat.
00:34:33 It's all about the money.
00:34:35 And you look at where the Democrats are spending money.
00:34:37 And I know I sent over charts and stuff,
00:34:39 but they're playing a ton of defense.
00:34:41 I mean, there's a ton of seats that Trump won that they hold that they need to try to ward off and challenge some of the redistricting, you know, will flip maybe somewhat slightly more competitive as things start to heat up.
00:34:54 But, you know, I agree with the premise that if people don't vote on our side, then, of course, you know, this thing gets a little bit hairy for us.
00:35:01 That's why we are the ones in control of our destiny as the Republican base.
00:35:06 And if we all show up to vote, they have literally no path to victory across the board.
00:35:11 Because they're not picking up any new votes. It's a matter of whether our people vote or don't vote. That's why everything that you're seeing is just a sort of misinformation campaign. I spoke about it at the convention and people went crazy after that segment. You know, it's the Chinese, Iran. I mean, all these people, even the freaking Canadians, Steve, are out there, you know, partying with the Democrats, pushing all this stuff to try to suppress voters and farmers.
00:35:35 we have to hold the line we have to unite and we have to get out to vote and we have to get everyone 0.86
00:35:40 else out to vote steve because if everyone votes they don't have a path to victory there has just
00:35:45 not been this change in you know opinion between the republican and democrat party just there's
00:35:51 no numbers that show that yeah well it look they're more distrusted than they've ever been
00:35:58 we're going to have uh someone from heritage on uh momentarily got a great piece up in the daily
00:36:03 signaled to talk about this this kind of red green alliance um and i realize that's not everything
00:36:08 but it's a good market it's one of the reasons people don't trust these people let's go i want
00:36:13 to work off of cook because that's publicly disclosed it's not the internal numbers but
00:36:19 publicly disclosed and it talks about if we can get that if denver can get that up you've put up
00:36:24 this chart the cook political report competitive house seats you've got toss-ups right now this is
00:36:31 Cook of 22. Those are six by Democrats, but 16 are held by Republicans in which Trump won the
00:36:38 district. Then you've got another lean Democrat of 11 and lean a Republican of 10. These are about
00:36:44 43 seats. This is kind of the this is the area of of fighting right now. Right. Speak to a second
00:36:52 of what Steve Deese, who I think was a pretty big supporter of the war, came out in a panic.
00:36:58 And he's a guy that does know Iowa. Steve's from Iowa radio, been a radio host out there forever. He made this kind of panic plea the other day. He had seen internal numbers in that things were collapsing, that even where you'd had Trump districts that were Trump plus 10, Trump plus 15.
00:37:15 he says hey if uh if you're at a 15 if you're a trump plus 15 we're probably in a dead heat if
00:37:23 you're a trump 10 uh you maybe you're a couple points underwater and you got to get up on your
00:37:28 horse and get the grassroots involved so walk me through the cook report just overall big picture
00:37:33 of these 43 that are in play and do you think it's expanded beyond that do you think there's
00:37:39 actually other lean republicans that are in trouble right now alex well i don't think anyone
00:37:44 should take anything for granted and that's my message to these members of congress which i
00:37:49 spent years working with some of these guys and ladies in safe seats you know quote unquote safe
00:37:54 seats i mean they just don't work it like some of the folks that are kind of more battle tested so
00:38:00 no one should take anything for granted because the democrats are certainly very energized and
00:38:04 that's why i'm saying things are a matter of whether our people get energized and match their
00:38:09 intensity and get out to vote because we learned in 2024, Steve, I mean, quite literally, there are
00:38:14 more of our people than there are their people. And I think even since then, you've seen the
00:38:19 voter registration numbers work in our favor since President Trump's reelection. And you've
00:38:24 seen even since 2024, the Democrat Party collapse as a brand on the issues and this rise of
00:38:31 socialism, which is really widely opposed to by independents and even a large swath of Democrats
00:38:37 That's outside of, you know, New York and California and these sort of urban centers in some of these red states. 1.00
00:38:44 So when you get into the suburbs, when you get into the working class areas, I mean, this stuff's totally toxic.
00:38:49 You know, people just don't support this anti-Americanism.
00:38:51 So, look, in 2020, Steve, I think we won every single toss up.
00:38:56 Nobody thought it was possible. And I think we picked up many of the lean Democrat seats.
00:39:00 And they do this every time. It's not just the public poll numbers that feed Cook.
00:39:05 because I worked in leadership, Steve, so we dealt with this in the past, is it's really the
00:39:10 two Democrat committees and the DNC and the RNC and the NRCC. I mean, they're both kind of like
00:39:16 debating with Cook's people, feeding information, internal numbers, and trying to make the case for
00:39:20 different rankings. So we've seen them heavily favor the Democrats in the past, and they use
00:39:27 that as a weapon to fundraise, Steve. That's what really this is all about, starting to feed this
00:39:33 democrat wave and inevitability so that they can get more money now this is their number one
00:39:38 talking point in the democrat ecosystem it's hey if we have 50 million more dollars if we
00:39:44 had 100 million more dollars we can target these 10 15 seats we don't have any cash that's what
00:39:48 they're out there complaining about but the money talks deep and look where they're spending money
00:39:52 they're dumping money protecting tom swasey they're dumping money into new york for these
00:39:56 are quote-unquote lean democrat seats yet they're spending tens of millions of dollars to prop up
00:40:01 these incumbents because the races are all tight they're all within the margin so the one thing
00:40:07 i'd say about cook is i don't buy much of it in that regard there's a ton of these a wide range
00:40:12 of tight races which i think can go either which way and i think it would be false to say otherwise
00:40:17 but that means they can all go our way i mean that world exists and so i think that people can put
00:40:22 their you know really get up there arm themselves to get out the vote and really drive through the
00:40:28 finish line. And we've seen in the last couple of months, sorry, weeks, Steve, Republicans are
00:40:33 starting to get energized. So we dealt with this in 22 in the inverse where we were kind of pumping
00:40:37 the red wave, red wave, red wave. I mean, that was literally being said everywhere. It scared
00:40:41 Democrats, not just were they able to use this sort of democracy at threat message, which juiced
00:40:46 their own people up. Of course, we thought that was insane. But as we did a look back, that was
00:40:50 very effective at turning out their base in the last minute. And that was a break in the last
00:40:54 two three weeks so there's a ton of time left to play out in the next three weeks you're going to
00:40:59 be critical setting the stage going into so just just just to compare just compare apples to apples
00:41:06 is that we say close races we mean house races that could be decided by a thousand votes or less
00:41:12 correct in 22 folks remember we expanded the map i think at one time to potentially 60 to 65 seats
00:41:20 and they were on the defense now they got they got on take this seven and and and we saw the
00:41:26 opportunity a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to grab those seats from you know these democratic
00:41:31 strongholds it didn't work but we still took the house this is the kind of reverse in that we um
00:41:38 in that right now when you say a tight race to find that for the audience yeah i think within
00:41:43 the margin of error, slightly outside, either which way. But that's great. I mean, Republicans
00:41:50 come online, you look at how they methodically ran the campaign to reelect President Trump,
00:41:56 and really you saw that late surge. There's usually always a Republican surge. Democrats
00:42:00 really like to kind of focus on the summer going in. And they've been shooting their shot in a lot
00:42:05 of these races to try to bring the race online so that they then can count on this dark money
00:42:11 super PACs that come in across the finish line. So we're waiting to see if there's some type of
00:42:15 massive Democrat deluge. But every day that goes by every week, Republicans are pounding them into
00:42:22 obliteration in some of these very tight seats. And that's why you're seeing the Democrats,
00:42:27 instead of dramatically expanding the map, you're certainly seeing some spending in Kansas,
00:42:31 you're certainly seeing some stuff on the peripherals. But on the House races, you're
00:42:35 just not seeing this type of, you know, if they thought there was a wave, they'd be spending in
00:42:39 50 seats steve i mean they would be trying to stretch republicans to defend these deeper seats
00:42:45 and it could change that could happen a week from now that could happen two weeks from now
00:42:48 we're just not seeing that so there's a lot of hysteria i think to try to demotivate republicans
00:42:54 make it seem like there's no chance make it seem like their vote doesn't count you know talking
00:42:58 about the gas the price that we have to just unite get your list get five people out to the polls
00:43:04 ideally 10 people out to the polls call your friends call your family get everyone out
00:43:08 because there's so many more Trump voters
00:43:10 than there are other people.
00:43:11 I mean, that's just a fact.
00:43:12 I mean, if every Trump voter
00:43:13 voted in New York State
00:43:14 for the midterms,
00:43:15 we would win in a landslide.
00:43:17 Win in a landslide.
00:43:18 If you get two-thirds of them, 0.96
00:43:21 we'd blow these people out
00:43:22 because midterm...
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00:45:32 okay so we got so much more to go through and we're kind of jammed up this morning we got
00:45:38 other stuff and raheem's going to join us um so degrasse you're going to be in studio with me
00:45:44 tomorrow uh to go through we're going to go through like pennsylvania we're take these in
00:45:48 blocks pennsylvania ohio florida texas of where these fights are going to be and and where people
00:45:55 need to get motivated correct me if i'm wrong one of the biggest arguments that we've had in um
00:46:01 in in in this 2020 big steals we picked up i think 14 seats a net 12 correct we picked up
00:46:09 seats in 22 and i think we picked up a couple seats in 24 the last three elections dealing
00:46:15 with house members we've picked up seats correct sir in 2044 that we lost one but yeah we've done
00:46:24 one but generally over the last couple cycles we've been able to pick up seats when the
00:46:29 Even margins are completely, totally. Yeah, completely. So there's maybe 40 or 50 in play here, right? Given what the polling is. We, you know, we just have to get maniacally focused on turning out the grassroots vote, even where people and there are a lot of people out there that, you know, you can't argue with them that they've got big issues with some of the stuff that either has happened or has not happened.
00:46:56 it's kind of beyond a debating society now if you want to hold serve because everything we've
00:47:03 worked for is going to become burning to the ground because jamie raskin i mean give people
00:47:07 just give people a minute or two of what raskin and these guys are going to do if they take the
00:47:13 house uh alex well i think they're going to go after everyone i think they'll go after companies
00:47:19 that made deals with president trump and i can't stress i mean this is stalinist i think they're
00:47:24 going to look at companies that worked with the administration. So they're going to go after
00:47:27 private business. They're going to try to send a message to the country and to the business class
00:47:34 that you can't make deals with populism. You can't make deals with Republicans. And because
00:47:39 what they're thinking about is the next time, Steve, the next President Trump, the next iteration
00:47:43 of MAGA, the next Republican president, they want these companies not to play ball
00:47:48 with Republicans. So I think they're going to drag in every company you can imagine that
00:47:52 worked with the administration and so forth, which is really chilling and really scary.
00:47:56 They've already sent documents to people, you know, preserving records and all types
00:48:00 of stuff.
00:48:01 Obviously, they're going to be impeaching not just the president, but everyone.
00:48:04 I mean, I think the impeachment is on the floor again.
00:48:07 Bob, I want people to understand we have this huge Maha conference we're covering tomorrow.
00:48:12 Bobby Kennedy is going to get impeached in the first week and Pete Hexeth, right?
00:48:16 They're going to start with Pete and Bobby.
00:48:17 You agree?
00:48:18 But everybody in his administration, they're going to come after.
00:48:20 It's just not the president.
00:48:21 And they're going to impeach him. They've said that now behind closed doors. We have that, correct?
00:48:26 Yeah. I mean, they're very clear about that and everything they're doing. And Hakeem,
00:48:30 they know it's ruling anything out. And, you know, we just can't afford as a country to put up with
00:48:35 that. It's going to really stop everything. We have one shot, I think, to really make this,
00:48:40 you know, continue making the progress. And of course, people will debate, you know, different
00:48:44 things. And none of that really matters, in my opinion. I'm sorry to say that. But we have to
00:48:49 get out to vote because we have no other option to surrender our country over to these psychopaths
00:48:54 would be the end of everything that we've worked so hard over the last four years and even before
00:49:00 for some people you know 12 years steve in some regards 10 years in some regards so we can't just
00:49:06 throw the towel in and give up we have to dig deep and get this done and get everyone out to vote
00:49:10 because we can't stop them victory is is in front of us there's no spin it's only not if we allow 0.99
00:49:17 it to be taken from us they're up front they want 60 million illegal aliens here
00:49:24 what they propose is absolutely outrageous in fact we're gonna have laura reese is going to
00:49:30 join us uh here in a moment to walk through it but uh and i realize changes have to be made people
00:49:35 are very upset about this war they're very upset about the entire national security policy that's
00:49:40 all got to be sorted out uh they're they want more focus on the economy there's certain things
00:49:45 the economy they want done the mass deportations i mean these were conscious decisions now you've
00:49:50 got dhs just last night comes out and says no we're actually going to sanctuary states and
00:49:56 sanctuary cities and we're going to increase deportation so i think people are hearing you
00:50:00 maybe not loudly enough but with that that is a conversation for a different day i i just don't
00:50:06 agree with people said hey oh we can just turn it over to the democrats because what they have
00:50:11 planned is uh is extraordinary and it's going to steal your country uh because if you lose the house
00:50:18 uh i i think it's it's it's going to be not all over but it's going to be a massive fight and the
00:50:24 white house is going to become fort apache so the things you've got now that are coming out
00:50:29 of there you like is all going to stop it's going to be the reverse of mass deportations they're
00:50:33 looking to import another 60 to 100 million here in the united states and so that's the fight
00:50:40 Alex DeGrasse, where do people get you in the interim?
00:50:42 You're putting up content all the time.
00:50:44 You're going to be in-house tomorrow.
00:50:45 We're going to go through state by state,
00:50:47 these congressional delegations of exactly where we stand
00:50:50 to look at Charlie Cook's and others,
00:50:53 this kind of red undertow,
00:50:55 and what can be done with your agency,
00:50:58 your human agency to stop a blue wave or a blue tsunami.
00:51:03 DeGrasse, where do people go?
00:51:05 I'm at DeGrasse81 on X, DeGrasse8120 on Instagram.
00:51:09 We'll post the updates, look at the Cook Report.
00:51:12 Maybe RAB can throw up the charts on maybe social media.
00:51:17 We'll get the share.
00:51:18 But lock in, take nothing for granted.
00:51:22 Let's get this done.
00:51:22 Thanks, Steve.
00:51:24 Nothing for granted.
00:51:25 The grass here tomorrow. 0.99
00:51:26 Caroline Ryan will talk about the Senate.
00:51:28 Senate's in play, too, definitely. 0.99
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