Bannon's War Room - WaRoom Battleground EP 435： Most Insufferable Woman Of The Year

00:00:00.000 this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing

00:00:13.460 people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the

00:00:20.460 authoritarians get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just

00:00:26.360 like in georgia it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and

00:00:31.120 misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is

00:00:35.380 the fight all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's

00:00:42.440 your host stephen k bannon just from a security point taylor swift comes out against trump i don't

00:00:48.960 care if they write that i'm sad that i didn't two years ago but i can't change that i'm saying

00:00:56.340 right now that this is something that i know is right and you guys i need to be on the right

00:01:01.220 side of history and if he doesn't win that at least i i at least i tried here's the here's the problem

00:01:06.100 i just want to read you what i wrote and i'm going to try to start i just really want you to know that

00:01:09.820 this is important to me i totally agree with the issue have you heard yes i've read the entire thing

00:01:15.900 and the bottom line right now i'm terrified i'm the guy that went out and bought armored cars i worry

00:01:20.840 for her safety as much as anybody does maybe more it really is a big deal she votes against

00:01:28.460 against fair pay for women she votes against the reauthorization of the of the violence against

00:01:33.520 women act which is just basically protecting us from domestic abuse and stalking stalking 1.00

00:01:37.940 she votes she thinks that that if you're a gay couple or even if you look like a gay couple you

00:01:42.960 should be allowed to be kicked out of a restaurant it's really basic human rights and it's right and

00:01:48.360 wrong at this point and i can't see another commercial and see her disguising these policies 0.97

00:01:56.600 behind the words tennessee christian values those aren't tennessee christian values i live in tennessee

00:02:02.560 i am christian that's not what we stand for i need to do this i need you to just

00:02:07.980 dad need you to forgive me for doing it because i'm doing it

00:02:11.740 welcome to the war room it's wednesday december 13th in the year of our lord 2023 now you guys know

00:02:20.240 the old saying used to be no women in the war room i think there was probably a subcategory under that 0.77

00:02:25.760 there was no taylor swift in the war room but today we are breaking barriers and we have a special

00:02:31.180 at steve's request believe it or not focusing on taylor swift not her music not any of the pop

00:02:37.360 culture stuff but her potential impact probably rather nefarious impact for those of you who are

00:02:43.060 watching this show on the 2024 election i was going to go into a long rant a long riff to give you my

00:02:48.300 thoughts on the issue but we have so many wonderful guests for the show we're going to have to table that

00:02:53.500 for another time so without further ado i want to get into our first guest right off the bat who's going

00:02:58.640 to sort of set the stage i would say substantively uh we got jack was so big joining us now jack you

00:03:04.760 know the refrain with taylor swift is and always has been that she's apolitical right she doesn't

00:03:10.000 get into this she doesn't talk about trump she doesn't talk about politics but you have gone

00:03:14.740 through chapter and verse on your twitter account bringing the receipts like you always do showing us

00:03:20.240 that empirically that's not true so can can you once and for all dispel the myth that taylor swift

00:03:26.660 is an apolitical figure well natalie thanks so much for having me on i love the fact that you're

00:03:31.620 doing this on taylor swift's birthday by the way that's just a little bit of perfection right there

00:03:37.460 and when when they named her the and i and i could kind of see this psyop forming over the past year or

00:03:45.540 so because you could see so much investment so much uh of the machinery of really the state getting

00:03:53.320 behind taylor swift pushing her to a higher level than she's ever been before and and i'm sorry folks

00:04:00.360 but i just have to say this like her career peaked like almost a decade ago um naturally naturally peaked

00:04:07.120 about a decade ago um she hasn't had any song that's gone organically you know viral or been a big hit

00:04:15.160 organically since then now suddenly she's feeded everywhere we're faced with her everywhere um 1.00

00:04:22.120 it's not a young person that we're talking about so she turns 34 today um and in that clip that you

00:04:27.640 shared back there you know she describes herself as as the um you know the arbiter of tennessee

00:04:33.320 christian values well actually taylor swift you're not a tennessee christian you're not even from

00:04:38.520 tennessee you're from pennsylvania just literally a couple of miles up the road from where i'm from

00:04:44.360 uh people say taylor swift's a young girl no you're about the same age as me so no um i can come in

00:04:50.820 and i can come on this now the media has been losing their minds because after time mag rolled

00:04:55.980 her out as the person of the year something that which by the way she had also been the co-winner of

00:05:01.460 the co-aworthy of in 2017 for her work in the me too movement which was the first time that she was

00:05:06.740 used as an instrument of statecraft which of course the me too movement was generally a purge of

00:05:11.640 conservatives a purge of white christian males and then eventually a purge within their own movement

00:05:17.300 now with her becoming the the full-on person of the year and i i tweeted this i guess it's been

00:05:23.680 almost two weeks since i tweeted this the media is still losing their minds at me on this regime

00:05:29.500 media at least that is i tweeted the taylor swift girl boss psyop has been fully activated

00:05:35.060 from her hand-selected vaccine shill boyfriend to her dink lifestyle to her upcoming 2024 voter 0.83

00:05:43.020 operation for democrats on abortion rights it's all coming that's look travis kelsey was paid 20

00:05:50.300 million dollars by pfizer this came out before right so the 20 million dollars came out before the fact

00:05:57.720 that um it came out that she was dating him but then they announced that they were dating before

00:06:05.220 right before we knew that he had already signed a deal with pfizer he also signed an agreement with

00:06:12.620 caa caa what is that that is one of the most powerful hollywood talent agencies in the entire

00:06:19.880 country really the entire world uh ari emmanuel's got one the other one of course is this caa this was

00:06:26.340 harvey weinstein's power network travis kelsey's in that taylor swift is in that and so what i'm

00:06:32.420 explaining to people is that everything you're seeing right now is manufactured it's completely

00:06:37.720 manufactured uh the same way that bernays would manufacture propaganda came up with the phrase

00:06:43.040 propaganda changed it to public relations he said we can't talk about propaganda anymore

00:06:48.640 ever bernays we have to turn it to uh public relations bernays of course being the nephew of none

00:06:54.320 other than sigmund freud one of the fathers of modern psychology and so you put all these things

00:06:59.480 together and you understand the people the power of the people who are behind the media and the power

00:07:04.780 of the machinery of statecraft that's getting behind taylor swift now they've rolled this out a couple of

00:07:08.880 times and i as you say i provided the receipts on my twitter account i was very clear about this we

00:07:14.260 went on the thought crime podcast with charlie kirk and the guys and i said look she comes out against

00:07:19.480 trump right pretty much day one of 2020 with this documentary miss americana she gives one of the

00:07:25.380 worst acting performances i've ever seen in my life you can basically see the cue cards off the screen

00:07:30.060 that she's reading from oh he thinks gay people shouldn't allow to be eating in restaurants and

00:07:35.100 marcia blackburn is trump she said marcia marcia blackburn is trump in a wig and she's going after 0.95

00:07:39.880 her in tennessee um she's reading through a litany of these things she's saying that donald trump

00:07:44.180 doesn't stand for equality for women for equal pay it's just straight up like left-wing tumblr reddit

00:07:51.460 talking points and they're using taylor swift as the vehicle to do this now they also ran a proof

00:07:58.760 of concept for her number one when she endorsed joe biden with a plate of cookies that she made

00:08:04.200 biden harris 22 released we're told that she made the cookies i mean if anybody actually thinks

00:08:08.980 that taylor swift uh made those cookies you probably also think that russia and uh russia made

00:08:15.120 uh an agent of theirs in donald trump put him in the white house and that's how they won 2016

00:08:19.820 um then of course she also conducted as a show of force really a proof of concept how many times and

00:08:27.200 i believe this in 2022 how many people she could get to register to vote with just one instagram post

00:08:32.160 and they track this with the just one instagram post taylor swift put up i want people i want all my

00:08:38.140 to register to vote today almost 50 000 people registered to vote within her uh within one day

00:08:45.560 of her tweet or you know posting that up on instagram and so they're slowly and very obviously

00:08:51.660 building taylor swift into the ultimate left-wing influencer in the way look look dylan mulvaney's

00:08:58.460 tiktoks are only going to go so far okay and harry sisson and these people they're bringing to the

00:09:02.900 white house they want to bring the big guns online for 2024 and it is going to be taylor swift weaponizing

00:09:09.560 the swifties into an anti-trump army through the power of tiktok through the power of ballot harvesting

00:09:15.600 these direct actions are going to be called for for her and of course they're going to use those lines 0.95

00:09:21.340 of lgbt of equal rights and of course we've already seen them roll this out on abortion rights so 0.79

00:09:28.520 you look at it right you're going to see the abortion rights uh which we know of course are

00:09:33.660 predominantly upheld by what single liberal women so single liberal women who vote predominantly 1.00

00:09:40.500 democrats i think something like 70 percent of single women vote democrat will be weaponized by 1.00

00:09:46.140 taylor swift herself a single woman who does as i said before promotes this dink lifestyle even though 0.99

00:09:50.600 she's never married herself um and you could plug her directly into the abortion rights tiktok ballot 0.96

00:09:57.020 harvesting operation that we can already see and this will prove to be extremely serious for

00:10:03.300 republicans and for donald trump who will of course be our nominee as we go into the general election

00:10:09.940 in november of 2024 of course jack i wish i could keep you longer there's so much i want to get into

00:10:15.880 maybe we'll have to do another episode where we discuss the term girl boss because it's not often that 0.97

00:10:20.280 you hear that in the war room but unfortunately i have to let you go like i said we have a bunch of

00:10:24.620 other guests that are coming on some girls you're the token man for this episode so thank you for

00:10:29.880 playing uh that part but jack if you want to follow you stay up to date with all your receipts not just

00:10:34.740 on taylor swift where can they go to do that well if you want to be if you want to take it from the

00:10:39.460 man boss then you can go and follow me at humanevents.com of course watching human events every single

00:10:45.360 day 2 p.m minister and if you want to read about me you can follow msnbc you can follow uh rolling

00:10:51.480 stone you can follow newsweek because they've all been absolutely losing their ever loving minds

00:10:56.740 at me ever since i made this tweet thank you jack for joining us have a good one god bless natalie

00:11:04.040 i think they're republicans should stay the hell away from taylor for their own good i think taylor's

00:11:07.900 going to do what taylor's going to do this is someone who put out a post on social media saying

00:11:11.560 register the vote and she got 50 000 people to do that uh the connection that she has with her fans

00:11:16.420 particularly with young women and young girls and teenage girls is incredibly strong and it is

00:11:22.100 moving and it is bigger than politics it is about community it is about autonomy it is about

00:11:26.340 independence it is about power just as she did with her own masters re-recording her masters after

00:11:32.600 they were sold out from under her by her former music label and creating this new art from her old

00:11:38.340 music and making it incredibly successful on the charts and profitable she is and she is the blueprint 0.99

00:11:44.400 for the modern day woman coming of age of how to take the power back from male dominated power 1.00

00:11:49.420 structures taylor's going to do what she's going to do and i think that if democrats are smart they 0.92

00:11:52.980 won't lean into it they will let her just do the work for them and then sit back and reap the benefits 1.00

00:11:57.360 when msnbc tells you not to follow or cover a story that's almost a telltale sign that we most

00:12:04.400 definitely should i think that's an axiom here in the war room and i would say taylor swift is probably

00:12:09.240 not a blueprint uh for young women to follow and i think our next guest the wonderful evita duffy who

00:12:14.760 is a fellow university of chicago graduate will also have darren beady joining us later in the show

00:12:20.220 so it's a it's a u chicago trifecta um has a wonderful piece in the federalist the most

00:12:25.220 inseparable woman in america wins times person of the year taylor swift isn't a thought leader or an

00:12:29.960 artistic genius she's a girl boss cat lady whose narcissism narcissism has made her a toxic 1.00

00:12:35.380 romantic partner avita i'm so glad you could join us if you want to walk us through the piece a

00:12:40.960 little bit and then we can get into some more of the the cultural ramifications of taylor swift i'd

00:12:45.040 love to do that too yeah of course i think that the crux of my piece really is that taylor swift is the

00:12:51.300 perfect controllable woman right this is somebody who's she's when the cdc say everybody wear masks 0.99

00:12:57.960 she's a mask wearer right if they say you know vote for joe biden taylor swift is all in for joe biden

00:13:03.740 she's influencing young people to vote for joe biden taylor swift is not somebody who's a

00:13:08.180 a political genius right she's not somebody who who uh you know is is is super involved in politics 0.89

00:13:14.880 you can tell she doesn't really know what she's talking about she takes cues from other leftists

00:13:19.020 and sort of says what she thinks people want her to say which makes her really really useful for the

00:13:24.400 left because if they say we need to do something she does it she will she will regurgitate whatever 1.00

00:13:30.120 talking points they want her to do um no questions asked which i like i said makes her the perfect 0.76

00:13:35.860 controllable woman easily influenced just like so many of the young women who she has such a hold 0.95

00:13:41.500 over yeah she's essentially an empty vessel and i think it's interesting to sort of extrapolate that

00:13:48.240 original clip that we opened the show with where you see her talking about how she has these political 0.53

00:13:52.260 views that she's hidden but sort of subversively right indirectly pushed on her audience and i think

00:13:58.440 you can make the same case that she's done that on the cultural side of things too right she's not

00:14:02.560 going to come out and say i embrace that as jack said the dink lifestyle the cat lady the narcissism 0.71

00:14:08.460 but it's sort of i think subtly ingrained in a lot of the music she puts out and the social media

00:14:13.420 content she puts out so i'd love if you could sort of walk the audience through again our audience

00:14:17.660 may be skews a little older than the typical taylor swift fan but you know what is the lifestyle

00:14:22.400 that you think she's selling and really duping women into believing will make them happy

00:14:26.820 yeah so if you don't taylor swift is known in her music for just harping on all of her ex-boyfriends 0.99

00:14:34.420 right it's i know frankly i feel bad for a lot of her ex-boyfriends she has horrible songs written

00:14:39.120 about them about how terrible they are and the message is really clear right taylor swift uh is

00:14:44.340 has not found love uh she's not she's not happy with with the patriarchy and with men in general and

00:14:50.200 so she kind of says screw all men uh and that's sort of the general message of her of her music and

00:14:55.500 then if you look at her lifestyle right she's somebody who who you know is very wealthy she 0.83

00:14:59.220 lives on her own she loves her cats she's a cat mom right she pushes a lifestyle on women that is 1.00

00:15:04.440 be single don't get married uh be you know be be be true to yourself right that's a phrase that we

00:15:10.960 always hear from them and ultimately what's really sad about it is that a lot of young women aren't

00:15:15.980 going to be as happy even as taylor swift is because taylor swift when she goes home from her concert

00:15:20.000 after singing negatively about all of her ex-boyfriends right she goes home to a mansion but a lot of young

00:15:24.940 women they they go home to a little apartment by themselves um with with with nobody and that's 1.00

00:15:30.940 a really sad lifestyle to have i think telling young women not to look for love not to look for

00:15:35.240 for a spouse or care about having children uh is a is a really negative thing to be pushing on young

00:15:41.440 women but like jack said in the last segment it's actually really advantageous for democrats because 1.00

00:15:46.280 if you have young women not wanting to start families and get married uh they they actually become

00:15:51.460 much more dependable democrat voters single young women are the most one of the most dependable 1.00

00:15:57.860 voting blocks democrats have ever had uh so to keep them in that stage of their life for as long as

00:16:03.520 possible and and perhaps forever is so important for them and that's why i think they love taylor swift

00:16:09.360 they love the lifestyle that she promotes uh in addition to her like you said being just an empty 1.00

00:16:13.540 vessel for their politics yeah i mean the studies show that you know female happiness particularly 1.00

00:16:19.640 among our generation has just dropped off precipitously and i think it's because they bought in

00:16:25.080 to that fake narrative that fake fake mindset that taylor swift and of course there's a bunch of other

00:16:30.140 people who do it too but i think right now she's made person of the year it's where all of our attention

00:16:34.800 is focusing but you bring up an interesting point point the sort of political underbelly i think to her

00:16:41.000 cultural message which is it's great for the democratic party to have single women to have 0.98

00:16:46.920 frankly unhappy single women right i think those people tend to vote democrat more than maybe a hot 1.00

00:16:52.700 take but i stand by it so i'm just curious from your perspective you know do you think because we've

00:16:58.880 been getting a lot of pushback i'm sure you've seen the news cycle they've been attacking jack

00:17:02.260 posobiec saying that we're crazy for insinuating that there are some political agenda behind this whole

00:17:08.440 kind of taylor swift push i'm just curious your thoughts on on if you think there is really a

00:17:14.060 political element to this sort of new campaign to make her not just person of the year but really

00:17:20.360 really have a profound impact i think on the 2024 election cycle yeah there is nothing that the

00:17:26.420 corporate media does that isn't intentional right this is this is gaslighting 101 from the media to say

00:17:33.100 oh we're we just made her person of the year because she had great ticket sales and she's just

00:17:37.820 really an awesome person this is silliness right and they and actually they've been priming us for

00:17:42.480 this person of the year announcement for a really long time there's been article after article after

00:17:47.200 article in the corporate media about how great she is fawning over her and her new relationship which 0.98

00:17:52.180 i'll just say uh travis kelsey i i don't think it's gonna last because none of her relationships do

00:17:57.180 i think that that's another indication really that she's a bad example for young women if you have 0.96

00:18:02.180 relationship after relationship ending up in flames uh and you write really awful negative songs about

00:18:08.300 them perhaps that means taylor swift is the problem side note there but yeah i think it's very

00:18:13.280 intentional they they were priming us for it they made her person of the year now she's in a perfect

00:18:18.240 position with even more media attention and clout around her to shill for joe biden once again because

00:18:24.880 what's really important to note about this election cycle is with the with the with the

00:18:28.480 controversy with with the war on hamas and and israel you have a lot of young people really angry at

00:18:34.780 democrats and really angry at joe biden taylor swift has an incredible amount of influence over this

00:18:41.580 group of young people that democrats are really concerned about nobody has the nobody in that

00:18:45.740 demographic people really has the motivation to say yes i'm excited to get out and vote for joe biden

00:18:50.740 so if they have taylor swift uh in waiting in the wings ready to come out and say we all got to come

00:18:56.540 for joe biden that is going to be huge for democrats uh and and make no mistake it is so intentional

00:19:02.520 that they are hyping her up making her person of the year talking about her constantly because they

00:19:07.440 are going to need her come 2024 i think you you bring up an interesting point and sort of the tell at

00:19:14.180 least to me that none of this is organic is if she really wanted to get political right now it would 1.00

00:19:19.200 make sense that she'd be talking about what's going on in the middle east either from a you know

00:19:23.740 bizarrely pro-palestine stance or from a from a pro-israel stance but it's sort of like the issues

00:19:29.300 that she's choosing right to get involved in right basically pre-gaming the 2024 election it's so obvious

00:19:35.360 that it's so not rooted in reality right it doesn't have anything to do with the current news cycle but

00:19:40.860 should maybe to make this episode not totally negative should we sort of take this in some ways

00:19:47.120 as a little bit of a victory in other words you know democrats are so scared uh of what's going

00:19:53.080 to happen in 2024 whether it's inflation immigration you name it uh the pushback to that that they are

00:19:58.940 rolling out the big guns right taylor swift in probably the most i think directly political way

00:20:05.600 that someone whose career for the most part has been more subversively political but it's so bad right

00:20:11.900 that she has to be explicitly political do you think we should sort of take this

00:20:15.660 as a good sign in a way yeah i i definitely would take it as a good sign i think democrats

00:20:21.980 are scared out of their minds um the just being a young person right being around a lot of young

00:20:27.780 people many of them democrats it's obvious that the the the oomph isn't behind joe biden but if you

00:20:33.700 look at the polling as well uh his approval ratings with young people are tanking and it's not just about

00:20:38.760 the the conflict in the middle east it also has to do with the economy right young people are

00:20:42.940 going off into the world trying to start lives they can't afford their groceries they can't buy a

00:20:46.940 house uh they you know they can't even afford to get married or to have a first child these are

00:20:51.760 important integral things in their lives and what they know is that things were looking a lot better

00:20:56.060 when trump was in office joe biden's been in office for you know four years now and it's it's it's not

00:21:01.700 going very well for us so i think definitely young people are are are losing support for joe biden on all

00:21:08.300 sides and democrats are scared out of their minds about it they're going to pull out the big guns for

00:21:12.260 taylor with taylor swift uh and that is a really good sign for republicans now obviously what we

00:21:16.840 have to be really cautious about election integrity um what democrats have done in key swing states to

00:21:21.540 change election to change election laws and procedures mass mail and balloting these are all

00:21:26.620 things that will have an impact on our election that we have to care about uh irrespective of whether

00:21:32.140 taylor swift is involved uh but yes it is one thing that we can be optimistic about

00:21:37.060 evita thank you so much for joining us i know the audience loves a new command if people want to

00:21:42.620 follow you stay up to date with everything you're working on not just wonderful op-eds going after

00:21:47.280 taylor swift where can they go to do all that yeah evita duffy underscore one on twitter and instagram

00:21:54.140 and then you can always read what i'm writing at thefederalist.com thank you evita thank you for

00:21:59.280 joining us of course we're in posse you guys know going into 2024 the economy is probably going to

00:22:06.860 get a little wild or should i should say wilder inflation and immigration the invasion that's going

00:22:12.800 on in the southern border that's why you got to go to birchgold.com slash bannon to get the latest

00:22:17.000 installment of the end of the dollar empire to try to make sense of all the craziness that is

00:22:23.380 happening navita really nailed it right there i think it's fair to say that taylor swift is sort of

00:22:28.940 the uh the opium of the masses particularly the female masses in other words this you know wef 0.80

00:22:35.080 inspired you will own nothing and be happy just focus on yourself narcissism self-care rejecting

00:22:40.600 religion people who buy into that mindset they're not actually happy the statistics the studies show it

00:22:47.900 but when they buy into the narrative the lifestyles the lies of people like taylor swift yeah it might

00:22:53.440 give them a fleeting sense of happiness to stick it to the guy that they think wronged them make no mistake

00:22:58.280 guys can wrong you but there's just a systemic approach i think to taylor swift the way she 0.98

00:23:04.540 dates her lifestyle that is just always victimized or i was villainizing rather the man and i don't

00:23:11.140 think that you can find fundamental true happiness if you live your life like that and someone who i

00:23:16.900 think has really through her work with turning point usa but also is a member i think we're probably

00:23:22.220 around the same age um i know you're always going out to speak at campuses to talk to people our age you

00:23:27.720 really kind of have you know your finger on the pulse of of the nation for lack of a better word

00:23:32.260 uh i'd love for you to explain to the audience like i said they skew maybe a little older than the

00:23:37.300 typical taylor swift fan the type of hold that taylor swift unfortunately has over so many young women 0.98

00:23:44.760 taylor swift definitely has a huge grasp on american young women along with i mean worldwide she is the top 0.94

00:23:55.020 artist of the year on every single platform top streaming artist highest grossing world tour ever

00:24:00.840 just beat the guinness world record and now a billionaire and i have listened to a couple of

00:24:05.460 your other guests and i think i might offer a little bit different perspective i myself do love taylor swift

00:24:10.900 i am a taylor swift fan obviously i hate her politics i am a conservative but i think that there's

00:24:16.320 something else to look at the story because if you look at her power since about the 2016 election

00:24:21.820 she has not really been pushing politics as hard as she could be and really rather in the past

00:24:28.220 election cycle right now in the last year has just encouraged people to go out and vote and hasn't used

00:24:33.400 her platform as villainized as she could um but she definitely has a huge hold on her fans and i will

00:24:40.560 have a huge different perspective if she ever decided to come out and say 100 biden 2024 or endorse a more

00:24:47.660 democratic candidate i would have different thoughts but given kind of the past year of the political

00:24:52.120 landscape of a lot of things that have happened the overturning of roe v wade hamas and israel going on

00:24:57.080 right now along with the transgender agenda taylor swift has not come out in support or in decline of

00:25:03.660 any of these issues which i actually applaud her because i think she's working to try and not alienate

00:25:08.820 her conservative or more moderate audience being the highest roasting artist of the time she has to be

00:25:14.600 really careful on what she does and doesn't say about certain issues so i will applaud her for

00:25:19.360 you know encouraging people to go out and vote educate themselves on what to vote for in their

00:25:23.880 in their uh states and she's not telling people who to vote for or what to vote for just simply

00:25:28.520 going out and voting and impacting the um economy that way in our election

00:25:33.680 i love that perspective and i want you to hang with us through the break we've got to jump to uh i don't

00:25:39.360 even know how long the breaks are when we do war room battleground but we got a break on the other side

00:25:42.860 got about a minute but in the meantime war room posse you can also go to jace medical.com you

00:25:47.380 know we shouldn't be reliant on the chinese communist party for anything let alone drugs

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00:26:20.040 mcmichael joining us after the break to drill down on taylor swift i also want to get into what

00:26:24.360 warfare against really women looks like today information warfare cultural warfare political 0.55

00:26:30.560 warfare maybe taylor swift people like her been used as a vessel to wage that and of course we got 1.00

00:26:35.940 dr darren jbd joining us after her to give his tape which i'm sure he would only describe as coming in

00:26:43.500 as white hot warren posse we'll be right back

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00:31:44.880 war room battleground with stephen k bannon

00:31:52.840 welcome back to the war room it's still natalie winters filling in for stephen k bannon but don't

00:32:00.960 worry he will be back tomorrow we still got morgan mcmichael with us we've got darren jbd joining us

00:32:07.100 later now some of you may know but morgan is an ambassador for turning point usa i'm sure she'll be

00:32:11.860 at amfest so make sure to go and say hi if you see her of course war room will be doing live shows

00:32:17.140 there as well but you know through your your work with turning point like i said you speak at a lot

00:32:21.900 of college campuses you kind of get to interact with younger people and and i don't know necessarily

00:32:26.840 where your answer this question question is i don't know if it'll give the audience hope or make them

00:32:30.800 even more depressed but i think if you sort of look at taylor swift uh really as an example i think

00:32:37.560 of a lifestyle that maybe you or i personally disagree with in other words you know not necessarily

00:32:42.820 pushing marriage she says she's a tennessee christian but it doesn't really seem like a lot

00:32:47.000 of the values that she upholds necessarily comport with that there's a sort of i think promotion of

00:32:52.980 you know self-love and self-care almost to a narcissistic extent as opposed to finding a meaning

00:32:58.540 to life that's that's bigger than yourself right bigger than just chasing relationships with guys that

00:33:04.180 seem to always end in flames but generally you know the the sense that you get when you talk to

00:33:10.280 to other young people you know do they buy into that or there is is there sort of a resurgent for

00:33:16.180 lack of a better word counterculture where young girls are sort of saying no to that lifestyle and 1.00

00:33:21.440 embracing maybe more traditional approaches to relationships and religion and sort of rejecting

00:33:26.780 the you know dink lifestyle that i think taylor swift promotes pretty heavily

00:33:31.100 gen z loves taylor swift especially women on college campuses and i have seen a huge amount of

00:33:39.340 gen z women are resisting you know the hookup culture that's very prevalent in our generation 1.00

00:33:44.760 and instead wants to have relationships want to sit down they're really starting to become tired of

00:33:50.160 feminism and the lives that have just been shoved down women's throats for decades which i think is 1.00

00:33:54.720 something really hopeful and i know you and i may disagree on taylor swift with her music you know

00:33:59.380 she has a lot of songs that tell stories it's not always about ex-boyfriends she has love songs she has

00:34:04.940 songs that have really helped people through hard times or to feel different emotions wherever that

00:34:09.940 may look like so i think like this has really helped a lot of women too and i don't think that she promotes 0.95

00:34:14.940 the dink lifestyle as much as people think she does and i want to touch on even like her being person on

00:34:21.000 the of the year for a second because if you look at that you know she has made such an enormous amount

00:34:26.940 of impact not just in america but worldwide she was a household name everybody who was anybody in the

00:34:32.820 u.s was talking about taylor swift at least one time within the last year so even if it was a good

00:34:38.340 conversation or a bad conversation she was making the headlines and made an impact in our country

00:34:43.200 which is why i personally do think she deserved time person of the year because look last year was

00:34:47.420 zelinski don't like zelinski don't love what's going on in ukraine and you know i don't like him as 0.72

00:34:52.640 person of the year but it made sense for the time with b with that being a hot topic so you know

00:34:57.920 looking at gen z women who you know may have never read time magazine looking at the headlines looking

00:35:03.380 at you know women are statistically right now starting to move in a more i think conservative 1.00

00:35:08.340 way because they're starting to be fed up just with feminism and the wokeness of what's going on 0.99

00:35:13.100 not just in colleges but just everywhere around them because it's gotten so radicalized and even

00:35:18.020 taylor swift now you know she's in a relationship and a lot of women have attached onto that relationship 1.00

00:35:23.040 being obsessed with it and looking at how her and travis kelsey together you know it's like oh

00:35:27.540 i think she really is going to get married and have children now i mean today is actually her 34th

00:35:31.980 birthday which is pretty funny um so i think women are starting to like look up to her in a different 0.88

00:35:36.640 way as she has matured throughout the past decade go back you know to 2018 miss americana she was

00:35:42.680 talking a lot more about politics back then when she was talking about blackburn and pro-life and pro-choice

00:35:48.080 issues going back then now she hasn't really been making any of those political statements overtly

00:35:53.180 um and i think she just doesn't want to alienate her conservative audience that she does have which 0.99

00:35:58.820 i think is really really smart of her i definitely think you bring up some good points and we always

00:36:04.240 we always love diversity of opinions here in the war room it's fun to get to talk to people who maybe

00:36:10.020 we have subtle disagreements on the taylor swift stuff but i know we agree on on seed oils and all of

00:36:14.500 those things and our love for uh oh yeah for air one but uh i'm just i'm just curious before i let

00:36:21.180 you go um you know you you bring up the person of the year award right i think that was sort of

00:36:26.320 the the impetus for this you know it's taylor swift is it a new psyop for the 2024 election if you sort

00:36:32.460 of track the way that it got filtered through the media so some of the other kind of rationale that i saw

00:36:37.900 to her being selected if you if you set aside the conspiratorial you know taylor swift is set to

00:36:43.280 you know destroyed to the 2024 election for donald trump it's just that she's sort of as you have

00:36:48.660 outlined maybe one of the least offensive public figures right and she had a great year career wise

00:36:55.100 and she's not explicitly political as some might say so they sort of chose her because she's a great

00:37:01.640 distraction with all the chaos that's going on in this country thanks to joe biden i'm just curious

00:37:07.560 why why you think they they chose her do you think it was sort of a distraction play because to go from

00:37:12.180 zelensky to taylor swift is is i think two different ways of weaponizing for lack of a better word times

00:37:18.560 person of the year to achieve an agenda absolutely is she being weaponized against the american people 1.00

00:37:25.460 i mean it could be true do i know explicitly no i don't know and i do think you know given her track

00:37:32.020 record she back in 2020 endorsed biden with the famous cookie photo so you know she may be being

00:37:37.440 utilized in all of this but i think conservatives need to take a step back and maybe try and get

00:37:42.240 swifties on their side economically look at taylor swift she has made enormous economic impact across 0.94

00:37:48.060 the world five billion dollars just in the u.s because of her tour and actually going to those

00:37:53.440 different cities uh created an economic boom for them helping you know the inflation is going up and

00:37:58.940 that's thanks to the biden administration so she's kind of been helping out there but then also take

00:38:03.440 a look at when george soros purchased her masters to her music and in 2020 she spoke out against the

00:38:09.200 soros family so i think if conservatives just maybe put on a little bit of a different thinking cap

00:38:14.580 and go to swifties and be like hey we hate george soros just as much as you hey we hate the world

00:38:20.460 economic forum because of these reasons or hey you know what taylor swift is actually a capitalist and

00:38:26.160 an entrepreneur and you could actually make a lot of money if you think like taylor swift i think

00:38:30.880 socially she 100 is definitely more liberal is definitely pro-choice you know has more of a 0.99

00:38:36.820 liberal social issues but economically i personally see no reason that taylor swift could ever be a

00:38:42.480 democrat especially when she's making the amount of money she is is she being paid off i don't know 1.00

00:38:47.200 she's a billionaire now so i mean what political or what monetary gain does taylor swift have if she's 1.00

00:38:53.860 making money i really don't think she is i think she you know is just using her platform to elevate and 0.88

00:38:58.700 you know what she believes but overall i don't think she's as crazy of a leftist as people think

00:39:04.940 morgan thank you so much for joining us if people want to follow you i know you come in hot on

00:39:11.420 instagram you have a video that i think you had a million views on which is very exciting organically

00:39:16.380 no time person of the year psyop involved there but if people want to follow you where are you on all

00:39:21.580 platforms you're going to be at amfest is there are you speaking can they come see you

00:39:25.980 absolutely i encourage all of you guys to go to america fest this coming weekend and if you use my

00:39:32.880 name code morgan m-o-r-g-o-n-n you do get 25 off ba i will be there if you see me come say hi i'll be

00:39:39.040 filming i will not be speaking this year but i will be filming a lot of fun things and be on the media

00:39:43.480 row maybe i'll be with natalie on war room again this weekend but you can find me on all tpsa channels

00:39:48.560 impersonal m-o-r-g-o-n-n morgan thank you so much for joining us thank you natalie

00:39:56.680 now our next guest is someone who when steve first called me i think it was like 12 at night

00:40:04.200 a week ago i did i didn't know why he was calling and he goes natalie we need to do a special edition

00:40:10.540 of war room and i said on what you know i was gonna think oh it was the chinese communist party

00:40:15.440 something more in my wheelhouse he goes taylor swift and i started laughing i said okay and the

00:40:22.300 first person that came to my mind that i wanted to have on was darren beattie darren j beattie i

00:40:27.360 should say because i know he would have some wonderful takes on the issue from really a

00:40:33.100 perspective that only darren j beattie could have which could probably only be described as

00:40:37.540 white hot so darren we'll start easy your analysis on everything taylor swift do you think she is you

00:40:45.400 know a psyop being rolled out to influence the 2024 election do you think we're being overdramatic

00:40:49.740 where do you stand well i mean i think she's a psyop to the extent that any major celebrity who

00:40:58.060 mobilizes politically is a psyop you know you could say that the function of celebrity

00:41:04.260 um in the united states is sort of an instrument of soft power to a degree and that is really

00:41:11.760 nothing new but i have to concur with a little bit of what i heard earlier that um you know in the

00:41:18.980 grand scheme of um uh cultural representatives i think you could do a lot worse than taylor swift at

00:41:29.240 least by what little i know about her you know she's not i don't know i'm not the expert on this

00:41:35.720 but i don't think she is a twerker i don't think she twerks okay so she needs credit for that you know

00:41:42.640 given that you know what other videos there have been um that ben shapiro so elegantly um read out

00:41:50.040 the lyrics to the wop song compared to things like this you know tell taylor swift by pop icon

00:41:58.440 celebrity standards in the united states is wholesome i think we have to acknowledge that

00:42:04.900 that graded on the curve she's pretty wholesome and you know represents more or less uh uh not the worst 1.00

00:42:12.920 that you can be which is not a ringing endorsement but it's not a condemnation either as for the role

00:42:19.620 of these types of celebrities in politically mobilizing the young i mean that gets down to i mean

00:42:25.420 this might be the most controversial thing i say in this segment but this gets down to the real

00:42:30.380 essence of voter fraud which is how expansive the franchise has become if you have people who are

00:42:38.240 so easily manipulated and so easily corralled that they can be just registered and deployed at a

00:42:45.380 concert or you know there are many other mechanisms think about what they've done with the mail-in and the

00:42:51.020 you know um that isn't really democracy in any way resembling what the founders envisaged into how

00:42:59.300 you know informed citizens deliberate on who their rulers should be so there's so much talk about stolen

00:43:07.840 election and voter fraud but i guess the spiciest take i'll have of the segment is that expand the more

00:43:15.480 the franchise is expanded the more the voter fraud you have and that's the fraud of having people who

00:43:21.860 aren't informed who aren't capable of making deliberative decisions on things and you don't

00:43:26.740 have real skin in the game in the political community these people shouldn't be voting anyway

00:43:31.400 and if they weren't allowed to vote it would be a moot issue as to what taylor swift was telling

00:43:37.120 them to do in the ballot box what's far more impactful is her cultural significance and there like i said you

00:43:44.480 know just to put it in a very short version taylor swift doesn't twerk and so that puts her in 0.89

00:43:49.700 thinking the 99th percentile of you know wholesomeness in terms of um in terms of celebrities and also

00:43:56.820 we have to acknowledge she's tremendously successful um she's far superior to beyonce i think she beats 0.99

00:44:03.100 beyonce on basically every single metric imaginable beyonce who incidentally does twerk she famously 1.00

00:44:09.600 twerked uh in multiple songs uh in multiple songs so she surpasses beyonce along every category um she's

00:44:19.120 tremendously successful um she's surpassed whitney houston in multiple categories and she's even 0.96

00:44:27.640 surpassed barbara streisand actually she's uh barbara streisand used to have the record for the most 0.83

00:44:35.680 billboard 100 albums for a woman taylor swift unseated barbara streisand which i'm told is more

00:44:43.740 troubling to the jewish community than anything kanye west ever said so this is actually uh she has

00:44:52.720 she has a host of remarkable she has a host of remarkable achievements and um you know it's

00:45:00.420 i guess you could say she represents capitalism but she represents success she's not you know she

00:45:06.880 fits in this pop star category i have to be happen to be partial to michael jackson who basically invented

00:45:12.720 the nature what a modern pop star is um but she fills that category um as well as anyone in the 0.99

00:45:21.520 contemporary age could be expected to so i can't really lean into the condemnation i can't really

00:45:29.200 marshal any genuine negative energy about her uh she seems more or less okay rated on the curve

00:45:37.460 that we're given never did i ever think i i'd see the day where we have darren j beady on war room

00:45:45.820 saying the word twerk multiple times in one segment but but here we are you know no but but you you are

00:45:53.000 right graded on a curve which is more of an indictment of american pop culture she's not the worst but i think

00:45:58.280 that if you take it back to the clip that we opened the show with right she basically says i've never

00:46:03.460 become explicitly political because of fear of blowback from from fans right whether it's the

00:46:08.940 safety or just from a financial perspective but i think ingrained in that is that there's sort of this

00:46:14.920 more subversive push of politics right just because she doesn't it's like the mainstream media right when 1.00

00:46:20.940 you see people on cnn they don't tell you that they're democrats but they're talking points even

00:46:24.920 though they pretend to be neutral they're all driven by their own personal beliefs and i think

00:46:28.660 with taylor swift politically you see that going on but i think more so on the cultural side of things

00:46:33.900 i think you see that with the music she pushes out not just the you know banal critique of oh she hates

00:46:38.800 men and she's in all these relationships but i think that there's something almost more nefarious

00:46:44.420 or or more effective about her kind of approach to life being so subtle right as opposed to lizzo 1.00

00:46:52.260 or beyonce twerking on stage it's so repulsive that girls like you know me would never be into

00:46:57.160 that whereas with taylor swift it's sort of this like oh is she okay is she a good role model right

00:47:02.560 it's a little harder to parse through i'm just curious though we got we got a few minutes left i won't

00:47:07.680 make you talk about taylor swift even more but just if you want to expand a little bit i'm curious

00:47:12.880 going into the 2024 election you know how celebrities how these pop stars have just always

00:47:18.200 been used to push an agenda um who you think they're going to roll out ahead of the 2024 election

00:47:23.440 if you think that's going to be their their new approach just how you think it's going to unfold

00:47:27.740 yeah i mean it it from what i've seen it seems like she's been tapped to some degree to serve as a

00:47:35.920 political representative or a kind of mega surrogate for um for biden which you know could be interesting

00:47:44.580 because we don't even know if biden's going to be the guy so it could be a lot of wasted capital there

00:47:49.300 but she's definitely been tapped in as a surrogate but you know this is nothing new this is how

00:47:54.820 celebrities have been used um for a long time and you know with varying degrees of success you know i

00:48:03.240 think that's the other thing is yeah she can register some people at a concert and this or 0.66

00:48:07.960 that and it might have some impact but i think it's it's a drop in the bucket compared to other

00:48:15.220 factors like the mail-in voting issue and these kinds of things are just massive you know busing

00:48:22.320 operations and machine politics that have been set up in a variety of cities and um those are i think

00:48:29.800 far more consequential factors electorally speaking um than taylor swift's uh participation

00:48:37.980 so do you think that this could potentially be another one of these stories not that there's that

00:48:44.840 level of calculation behind it but i think republicans are sometimes really great at focusing on stories

00:48:50.340 that don't matter i say this on the heels of a one hour long special taylor swift but ignoring the

00:48:54.580 actual substantive issues right talking about how we're going to secure the 2024 election i'm just

00:48:59.500 curious from your perspective i know you've covered the government censorship complex stuff very

00:49:03.400 closely obviously january 6th but have you seen any movement ahead of the 2024 election that gives you

00:49:10.140 confidence that we are taking election security seriously

00:49:14.620 well there's a lot of talk about it but i haven't seen any kind of serious attempt at implementation

00:49:24.540 and we don't know what tricks uh the democrats have up their sleeves this time i don't think they could

00:49:32.320 pull off another covid at least not in the same way but i'm sure they have some other tricks and

00:49:38.480 keep in mind that with the criminal indictments of trump where they're effectively trying to make it

00:49:44.720 illegal for the for what president trump did on the basis of his belief that 2020 was stolen

00:49:51.640 that sort of sets the precedent that any serious questioning of future elections uh could uh could be

00:50:01.780 criminal so i think it's very dangerous what they seem to be setting up in that respect um i think

00:50:10.340 that principally the democrats are focused now on what the heck they're going to do with biden because

00:50:17.220 they need to come to some decision pretty soon and it doesn't look like he's viable but there are no

00:50:24.260 easy alternatives and no easy way to get rid of him especially when his heir apparent or would-be heir

00:50:31.980 kamala harris is such a non-starter and pretty universally acknowledged to be um repulsive to wide swaths of the 1.00

00:50:41.800 electorate darren if you're working on anything feel free to tease it real quickly but if not if people

00:50:48.280 want to follow you actually wait real quick who would you have chosen for times person of the year

00:50:53.700 if you had to choose well you know that's a great question um i don't think taylor swift was a bad

00:51:01.200 choice if they were going for a pop icon because she's had a tremendous year obviously you know elon would

00:51:07.800 be the boring but eminently reasonable choice but then also given the significance of all of the

00:51:14.680 ai stuff i could make a decent case for sam altman as well

00:51:19.820 i would throw stephen k bannon in the ring and not just because i'm paid and not just because i'm paid

00:51:27.800 to say that darren if people want to follow you that goes without saying where can they where can

00:51:35.680 they go to do all that that's revolver.news revolver.news we're white hot today and we have

00:51:42.460 big stuff coming up i'm on twitter at darren jbd and we are the whitest and the hottest on getter

00:51:52.080 as always revolver news no twerking on revolver news no twerking in the war room no twerking on

00:52:02.200 revolver news i think that's a that's a fitting end to the taylor swift special though you do

00:52:07.340 depress me when you talk about grading american pop culture on a curve if taylor swift is in the

00:52:12.460 hundredth percentile or 99th percentile that's uh pretty dark i would say darren thank you so much

00:52:19.060 for joining us thank you natalie and war and posse thank you so much for hanging with me uh we'll be

00:52:26.180 live starting i believe saturday morning at amfest at least i'll be there with mo i think steve will

00:52:32.400 be sunday when he speaks so make sure you go to amfest.com to get your tickets phoenix arizona

00:52:39.020 you gotta be there it's gonna be a blast you're gonna get to meet everyone for the war room team

00:52:44.140 see you guys there have a wonderful evening

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Bannon's War Room - December 14, 2023

WaRoom Battleground EP 435： Most Insufferable Woman Of The Year

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