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- December 14, 2023
WaRoom Battleground EP 435: Most Insufferable Woman Of The Year
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Word Count
10,050
Sentence Count
22
Misogynist Sentences
65
Hate Speech Sentences
12
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this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
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people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the
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authoritarians get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just
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like in georgia it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and
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misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is
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the fight all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's
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your host stephen k bannon just from a security point taylor swift comes out against trump i don't
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care if they write that i'm sad that i didn't two years ago but i can't change that i'm saying
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right now that this is something that i know is right and you guys i need to be on the right
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side of history and if he doesn't win that at least i i at least i tried here's the here's the problem
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i just want to read you what i wrote and i'm going to try to start i just really want you to know that
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this is important to me i totally agree with the issue have you heard yes i've read the entire thing
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and the bottom line right now i'm terrified i'm the guy that went out and bought armored cars i worry
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for her safety as much as anybody does maybe more it really is a big deal she votes against
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against fair pay for women she votes against the reauthorization of the of the violence against
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women act which is just basically protecting us from domestic abuse and stalking stalking
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she votes she thinks that that if you're a gay couple or even if you look like a gay couple you
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should be allowed to be kicked out of a restaurant it's really basic human rights and it's right and
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wrong at this point and i can't see another commercial and see her disguising these policies
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behind the words tennessee christian values those aren't tennessee christian values i live in tennessee
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i am christian that's not what we stand for i need to do this i need you to just
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dad need you to forgive me for doing it because i'm doing it
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welcome to the war room it's wednesday december 13th in the year of our lord 2023 now you guys know
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the old saying used to be no women in the war room i think there was probably a subcategory under that
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there was no taylor swift in the war room but today we are breaking barriers and we have a special
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at steve's request believe it or not focusing on taylor swift not her music not any of the pop
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culture stuff but her potential impact probably rather nefarious impact for those of you who are
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watching this show on the 2024 election i was going to go into a long rant a long riff to give you my
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thoughts on the issue but we have so many wonderful guests for the show we're going to have to table that
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for another time so without further ado i want to get into our first guest right off the bat who's going
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to sort of set the stage i would say substantively uh we got jack was so big joining us now jack you
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know the refrain with taylor swift is and always has been that she's apolitical right she doesn't
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get into this she doesn't talk about trump she doesn't talk about politics but you have gone
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through chapter and verse on your twitter account bringing the receipts like you always do showing us
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that empirically that's not true so can can you once and for all dispel the myth that taylor swift
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is an apolitical figure well natalie thanks so much for having me on i love the fact that you're
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doing this on taylor swift's birthday by the way that's just a little bit of perfection right there
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and when when they named her the and i and i could kind of see this psyop forming over the past year or
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so because you could see so much investment so much uh of the machinery of really the state getting
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behind taylor swift pushing her to a higher level than she's ever been before and and i'm sorry folks
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but i just have to say this like her career peaked like almost a decade ago um naturally naturally peaked
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about a decade ago um she hasn't had any song that's gone organically you know viral or been a big hit
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organically since then now suddenly she's feeded everywhere we're faced with her everywhere um
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it's not a young person that we're talking about so she turns 34 today um and in that clip that you
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shared back there you know she describes herself as as the um you know the arbiter of tennessee
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christian values well actually taylor swift you're not a tennessee christian you're not even from
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tennessee you're from pennsylvania just literally a couple of miles up the road from where i'm from
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uh people say taylor swift's a young girl no you're about the same age as me so no um i can come in
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and i can come on this now the media has been losing their minds because after time mag rolled
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her out as the person of the year something that which by the way she had also been the co-winner of
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the co-aworthy of in 2017 for her work in the me too movement which was the first time that she was
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used as an instrument of statecraft which of course the me too movement was generally a purge of
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conservatives a purge of white christian males and then eventually a purge within their own movement
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now with her becoming the the full-on person of the year and i i tweeted this i guess it's been
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almost two weeks since i tweeted this the media is still losing their minds at me on this regime
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media at least that is i tweeted the taylor swift girl boss psyop has been fully activated
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from her hand-selected vaccine shill boyfriend to her dink lifestyle to her upcoming 2024 voter
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operation for democrats on abortion rights it's all coming that's look travis kelsey was paid 20
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million dollars by pfizer this came out before right so the 20 million dollars came out before the fact
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that um it came out that she was dating him but then they announced that they were dating before
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right before we knew that he had already signed a deal with pfizer he also signed an agreement with
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caa caa what is that that is one of the most powerful hollywood talent agencies in the entire
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country really the entire world uh ari emmanuel's got one the other one of course is this caa this was
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harvey weinstein's power network travis kelsey's in that taylor swift is in that and so what i'm
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explaining to people is that everything you're seeing right now is manufactured it's completely
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manufactured uh the same way that bernays would manufacture propaganda came up with the phrase
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propaganda changed it to public relations he said we can't talk about propaganda anymore
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ever bernays we have to turn it to uh public relations bernays of course being the nephew of none
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other than sigmund freud one of the fathers of modern psychology and so you put all these things
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together and you understand the people the power of the people who are behind the media and the power
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of the machinery of statecraft that's getting behind taylor swift now they've rolled this out a couple of
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times and i as you say i provided the receipts on my twitter account i was very clear about this we
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went on the thought crime podcast with charlie kirk and the guys and i said look she comes out against
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trump right pretty much day one of 2020 with this documentary miss americana she gives one of the
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worst acting performances i've ever seen in my life you can basically see the cue cards off the screen
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that she's reading from oh he thinks gay people shouldn't allow to be eating in restaurants and
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marcia blackburn is trump she said marcia marcia blackburn is trump in a wig and she's going after
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her in tennessee um she's reading through a litany of these things she's saying that donald trump
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doesn't stand for equality for women for equal pay it's just straight up like left-wing tumblr reddit
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talking points and they're using taylor swift as the vehicle to do this now they also ran a proof
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of concept for her number one when she endorsed joe biden with a plate of cookies that she made
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biden harris 22 released we're told that she made the cookies i mean if anybody actually thinks
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that taylor swift uh made those cookies you probably also think that russia and uh russia made
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uh an agent of theirs in donald trump put him in the white house and that's how they won 2016
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um then of course she also conducted as a show of force really a proof of concept how many times and
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i believe this in 2022 how many people she could get to register to vote with just one instagram post
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and they track this with the just one instagram post taylor swift put up i want people i want all my
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to register to vote today almost 50 000 people registered to vote within her uh within one day
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of her tweet or you know posting that up on instagram and so they're slowly and very obviously
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building taylor swift into the ultimate left-wing influencer in the way look look dylan mulvaney's
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tiktoks are only going to go so far okay and harry sisson and these people they're bringing to the
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white house they want to bring the big guns online for 2024 and it is going to be taylor swift weaponizing
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the swifties into an anti-trump army through the power of tiktok through the power of ballot harvesting
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these direct actions are going to be called for for her and of course they're going to use those lines
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of lgbt of equal rights and of course we've already seen them roll this out on abortion rights so
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you look at it right you're going to see the abortion rights uh which we know of course are
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predominantly upheld by what single liberal women so single liberal women who vote predominantly
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democrats i think something like 70 percent of single women vote democrat will be weaponized by
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taylor swift herself a single woman who does as i said before promotes this dink lifestyle even though
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she's never married herself um and you could plug her directly into the abortion rights tiktok ballot
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harvesting operation that we can already see and this will prove to be extremely serious for
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republicans and for donald trump who will of course be our nominee as we go into the general election
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in november of 2024 of course jack i wish i could keep you longer there's so much i want to get into
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maybe we'll have to do another episode where we discuss the term girl boss because it's not often that
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you hear that in the war room but unfortunately i have to let you go like i said we have a bunch of
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other guests that are coming on some girls you're the token man for this episode so thank you for
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playing uh that part but jack if you want to follow you stay up to date with all your receipts not just
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on taylor swift where can they go to do that well if you want to be if you want to take it from the
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man boss then you can go and follow me at humanevents.com of course watching human events every single
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day 2 p.m minister and if you want to read about me you can follow msnbc you can follow uh rolling
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stone you can follow newsweek because they've all been absolutely losing their ever loving minds
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at me ever since i made this tweet thank you jack for joining us have a good one god bless natalie
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i think they're republicans should stay the hell away from taylor for their own good i think taylor's
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going to do what taylor's going to do this is someone who put out a post on social media saying
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register the vote and she got 50 000 people to do that uh the connection that she has with her fans
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particularly with young women and young girls and teenage girls is incredibly strong and it is
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moving and it is bigger than politics it is about community it is about autonomy it is about
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independence it is about power just as she did with her own masters re-recording her masters after
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they were sold out from under her by her former music label and creating this new art from her old
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music and making it incredibly successful on the charts and profitable she is and she is the blueprint
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for the modern day woman coming of age of how to take the power back from male dominated power
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structures taylor's going to do what she's going to do and i think that if democrats are smart they
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won't lean into it they will let her just do the work for them and then sit back and reap the benefits
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when msnbc tells you not to follow or cover a story that's almost a telltale sign that we most
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definitely should i think that's an axiom here in the war room and i would say taylor swift is probably
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not a blueprint uh for young women to follow and i think our next guest the wonderful evita duffy who
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is a fellow university of chicago graduate will also have darren beady joining us later in the show
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so it's a it's a u chicago trifecta um has a wonderful piece in the federalist the most
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inseparable woman in america wins times person of the year taylor swift isn't a thought leader or an
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artistic genius she's a girl boss cat lady whose narcissism narcissism has made her a toxic
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romantic partner avita i'm so glad you could join us if you want to walk us through the piece a
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little bit and then we can get into some more of the the cultural ramifications of taylor swift i'd
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love to do that too yeah of course i think that the crux of my piece really is that taylor swift is the
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perfect controllable woman right this is somebody who's she's when the cdc say everybody wear masks
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she's a mask wearer right if they say you know vote for joe biden taylor swift is all in for joe biden
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she's influencing young people to vote for joe biden taylor swift is not somebody who's a
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a political genius right she's not somebody who who uh you know is is is super involved in politics
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you can tell she doesn't really know what she's talking about she takes cues from other leftists
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and sort of says what she thinks people want her to say which makes her really really useful for the
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left because if they say we need to do something she does it she will she will regurgitate whatever
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talking points they want her to do um no questions asked which i like i said makes her the perfect
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controllable woman easily influenced just like so many of the young women who she has such a hold
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over yeah she's essentially an empty vessel and i think it's interesting to sort of extrapolate that
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original clip that we opened the show with where you see her talking about how she has these political
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views that she's hidden but sort of subversively right indirectly pushed on her audience and i think
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you can make the same case that she's done that on the cultural side of things too right she's not
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going to come out and say i embrace that as jack said the dink lifestyle the cat lady the narcissism
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but it's sort of i think subtly ingrained in a lot of the music she puts out and the social media
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content she puts out so i'd love if you could sort of walk the audience through again our audience
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may be skews a little older than the typical taylor swift fan but you know what is the lifestyle
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that you think she's selling and really duping women into believing will make them happy
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yeah so if you don't taylor swift is known in her music for just harping on all of her ex-boyfriends
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right it's i know frankly i feel bad for a lot of her ex-boyfriends she has horrible songs written
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about them about how terrible they are and the message is really clear right taylor swift uh is
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has not found love uh she's not she's not happy with with the patriarchy and with men in general and
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so she kind of says screw all men uh and that's sort of the general message of her of her music and
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then if you look at her lifestyle right she's somebody who who you know is very wealthy she
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lives on her own she loves her cats she's a cat mom right she pushes a lifestyle on women that is
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be single don't get married uh be you know be be be true to yourself right that's a phrase that we
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always hear from them and ultimately what's really sad about it is that a lot of young women aren't
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going to be as happy even as taylor swift is because taylor swift when she goes home from her concert
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after singing negatively about all of her ex-boyfriends right she goes home to a mansion but a lot of young
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women they they go home to a little apartment by themselves um with with with nobody and that's
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a really sad lifestyle to have i think telling young women not to look for love not to look for
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for a spouse or care about having children uh is a is a really negative thing to be pushing on young
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women but like jack said in the last segment it's actually really advantageous for democrats because
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if you have young women not wanting to start families and get married uh they they actually become
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much more dependable democrat voters single young women are the most one of the most dependable
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voting blocks democrats have ever had uh so to keep them in that stage of their life for as long as
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possible and and perhaps forever is so important for them and that's why i think they love taylor swift
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they love the lifestyle that she promotes uh in addition to her like you said being just an empty
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vessel for their politics yeah i mean the studies show that you know female happiness particularly
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among our generation has just dropped off precipitously and i think it's because they bought in
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to that fake narrative that fake fake mindset that taylor swift and of course there's a bunch of other
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people who do it too but i think right now she's made person of the year it's where all of our attention
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is focusing but you bring up an interesting point point the sort of political underbelly i think to her
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cultural message which is it's great for the democratic party to have single women to have
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frankly unhappy single women right i think those people tend to vote democrat more than maybe a hot
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take but i stand by it so i'm just curious from your perspective you know do you think because we've
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been getting a lot of pushback i'm sure you've seen the news cycle they've been attacking jack
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posobiec saying that we're crazy for insinuating that there are some political agenda behind this whole
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kind of taylor swift push i'm just curious your thoughts on on if you think there is really a
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political element to this sort of new campaign to make her not just person of the year but really
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really have a profound impact i think on the 2024 election cycle yeah there is nothing that the
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corporate media does that isn't intentional right this is this is gaslighting 101 from the media to say
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oh we're we just made her person of the year because she had great ticket sales and she's just
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really an awesome person this is silliness right and they and actually they've been priming us for
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this person of the year announcement for a really long time there's been article after article after
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article in the corporate media about how great she is fawning over her and her new relationship which
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i'll just say uh travis kelsey i i don't think it's gonna last because none of her relationships do
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i think that that's another indication really that she's a bad example for young women if you have
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relationship after relationship ending up in flames uh and you write really awful negative songs about
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them perhaps that means taylor swift is the problem side note there but yeah i think it's very
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intentional they they were priming us for it they made her person of the year now she's in a perfect
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position with even more media attention and clout around her to shill for joe biden once again because
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what's really important to note about this election cycle is with the with the with the
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controversy with with the war on hamas and and israel you have a lot of young people really angry at
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democrats and really angry at joe biden taylor swift has an incredible amount of influence over this
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group of young people that democrats are really concerned about nobody has the nobody in that
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demographic people really has the motivation to say yes i'm excited to get out and vote for joe biden
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so if they have taylor swift uh in waiting in the wings ready to come out and say we all got to come
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for joe biden that is going to be huge for democrats uh and and make no mistake it is so intentional
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that they are hyping her up making her person of the year talking about her constantly because they
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are going to need her come 2024 i think you you bring up an interesting point and sort of the tell at
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least to me that none of this is organic is if she really wanted to get political right now it would
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make sense that she'd be talking about what's going on in the middle east either from a you know
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bizarrely pro-palestine stance or from a from a pro-israel stance but it's sort of like the issues
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that she's choosing right to get involved in right basically pre-gaming the 2024 election it's so obvious
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that it's so not rooted in reality right it doesn't have anything to do with the current news cycle but
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should maybe to make this episode not totally negative should we sort of take this in some ways
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as a little bit of a victory in other words you know democrats are so scared uh of what's going
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to happen in 2024 whether it's inflation immigration you name it uh the pushback to that that they are
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rolling out the big guns right taylor swift in probably the most i think directly political way
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that someone whose career for the most part has been more subversively political but it's so bad right
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that she has to be explicitly political do you think we should sort of take this
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as a good sign in a way yeah i i definitely would take it as a good sign i think democrats
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are scared out of their minds um the just being a young person right being around a lot of young
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people many of them democrats it's obvious that the the the oomph isn't behind joe biden but if you
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look at the polling as well uh his approval ratings with young people are tanking and it's not just about
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the the conflict in the middle east it also has to do with the economy right young people are
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going off into the world trying to start lives they can't afford their groceries they can't buy a
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house uh they you know they can't even afford to get married or to have a first child these are
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important integral things in their lives and what they know is that things were looking a lot better
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when trump was in office joe biden's been in office for you know four years now and it's it's it's not
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going very well for us so i think definitely young people are are are losing support for joe biden on all
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sides and democrats are scared out of their minds about it they're going to pull out the big guns for
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taylor with taylor swift uh and that is a really good sign for republicans now obviously what we
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have to be really cautious about election integrity um what democrats have done in key swing states to
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change election to change election laws and procedures mass mail and balloting these are all
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things that will have an impact on our election that we have to care about uh irrespective of whether
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taylor swift is involved uh but yes it is one thing that we can be optimistic about
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evita thank you so much for joining us i know the audience loves a new command if people want to
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follow you stay up to date with everything you're working on not just wonderful op-eds going after
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taylor swift where can they go to do all that yeah evita duffy underscore one on twitter and instagram
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and then you can always read what i'm writing at thefederalist.com thank you evita thank you for
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joining us of course we're in posse you guys know going into 2024 the economy is probably going to
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get a little wild or should i should say wilder inflation and immigration the invasion that's going
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on in the southern border that's why you got to go to birchgold.com slash bannon to get the latest
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installment of the end of the dollar empire to try to make sense of all the craziness that is
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happening navita really nailed it right there i think it's fair to say that taylor swift is sort of
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the uh the opium of the masses particularly the female masses in other words this you know wef
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inspired you will own nothing and be happy just focus on yourself narcissism self-care rejecting
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religion people who buy into that mindset they're not actually happy the statistics the studies show it
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but when they buy into the narrative the lifestyles the lies of people like taylor swift yeah it might
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give them a fleeting sense of happiness to stick it to the guy that they think wronged them make no mistake
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guys can wrong you but there's just a systemic approach i think to taylor swift the way she
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dates her lifestyle that is just always victimized or i was villainizing rather the man and i don't
00:23:11.140
think that you can find fundamental true happiness if you live your life like that and someone who i
00:23:16.900
think has really through her work with turning point usa but also is a member i think we're probably
00:23:22.220
around the same age um i know you're always going out to speak at campuses to talk to people our age you
00:23:27.720
really kind of have you know your finger on the pulse of of the nation for lack of a better word
00:23:32.260
uh i'd love for you to explain to the audience like i said they skew maybe a little older than the
00:23:37.300
typical taylor swift fan the type of hold that taylor swift unfortunately has over so many young women
00:23:44.760
taylor swift definitely has a huge grasp on american young women along with i mean worldwide she is the top
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artist of the year on every single platform top streaming artist highest grossing world tour ever
00:24:00.840
just beat the guinness world record and now a billionaire and i have listened to a couple of
00:24:05.460
your other guests and i think i might offer a little bit different perspective i myself do love taylor swift
00:24:10.900
i am a taylor swift fan obviously i hate her politics i am a conservative but i think that there's
00:24:16.320
something else to look at the story because if you look at her power since about the 2016 election
00:24:21.820
she has not really been pushing politics as hard as she could be and really rather in the past
00:24:28.220
election cycle right now in the last year has just encouraged people to go out and vote and hasn't used
00:24:33.400
her platform as villainized as she could um but she definitely has a huge hold on her fans and i will
00:24:40.560
have a huge different perspective if she ever decided to come out and say 100 biden 2024 or endorse a more
00:24:47.660
democratic candidate i would have different thoughts but given kind of the past year of the political
00:24:52.120
landscape of a lot of things that have happened the overturning of roe v wade hamas and israel going on
00:24:57.080
right now along with the transgender agenda taylor swift has not come out in support or in decline of
00:25:03.660
any of these issues which i actually applaud her because i think she's working to try and not alienate
00:25:08.820
her conservative or more moderate audience being the highest roasting artist of the time she has to be
00:25:14.600
really careful on what she does and doesn't say about certain issues so i will applaud her for
00:25:19.360
you know encouraging people to go out and vote educate themselves on what to vote for in their
00:25:23.880
in their uh states and she's not telling people who to vote for or what to vote for just simply
00:25:28.520
going out and voting and impacting the um economy that way in our election
00:25:33.680
i love that perspective and i want you to hang with us through the break we've got to jump to uh i don't
00:25:39.360
even know how long the breaks are when we do war room battleground but we got a break on the other side
00:25:42.860
got about a minute but in the meantime war room posse you can also go to jace medical.com you
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mcmichael joining us after the break to drill down on taylor swift i also want to get into what
00:26:24.360
warfare against really women looks like today information warfare cultural warfare political
00:26:30.560
warfare maybe taylor swift people like her been used as a vessel to wage that and of course we got
00:26:35.940
dr darren jbd joining us after her to give his tape which i'm sure he would only describe as coming in
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as white hot warren posse we'll be right back
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war room battleground with stephen k bannon
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welcome back to the war room it's still natalie winters filling in for stephen k bannon but don't
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worry he will be back tomorrow we still got morgan mcmichael with us we've got darren jbd joining us
00:32:07.100
later now some of you may know but morgan is an ambassador for turning point usa i'm sure she'll be
00:32:11.860
at amfest so make sure to go and say hi if you see her of course war room will be doing live shows
00:32:17.140
there as well but you know through your your work with turning point like i said you speak at a lot
00:32:21.900
of college campuses you kind of get to interact with younger people and and i don't know necessarily
00:32:26.840
where your answer this question question is i don't know if it'll give the audience hope or make them
00:32:30.800
even more depressed but i think if you sort of look at taylor swift uh really as an example i think
00:32:37.560
of a lifestyle that maybe you or i personally disagree with in other words you know not necessarily
00:32:42.820
pushing marriage she says she's a tennessee christian but it doesn't really seem like a lot
00:32:47.000
of the values that she upholds necessarily comport with that there's a sort of i think promotion of
00:32:52.980
you know self-love and self-care almost to a narcissistic extent as opposed to finding a meaning
00:32:58.540
to life that's that's bigger than yourself right bigger than just chasing relationships with guys that
00:33:04.180
seem to always end in flames but generally you know the the sense that you get when you talk to
00:33:10.280
to other young people you know do they buy into that or there is is there sort of a resurgent for
00:33:16.180
lack of a better word counterculture where young girls are sort of saying no to that lifestyle and
00:33:21.440
embracing maybe more traditional approaches to relationships and religion and sort of rejecting
00:33:26.780
the you know dink lifestyle that i think taylor swift promotes pretty heavily
00:33:31.100
gen z loves taylor swift especially women on college campuses and i have seen a huge amount of
00:33:39.340
gen z women are resisting you know the hookup culture that's very prevalent in our generation
00:33:44.760
and instead wants to have relationships want to sit down they're really starting to become tired of
00:33:50.160
feminism and the lives that have just been shoved down women's throats for decades which i think is
00:33:54.720
something really hopeful and i know you and i may disagree on taylor swift with her music you know
00:33:59.380
she has a lot of songs that tell stories it's not always about ex-boyfriends she has love songs she has
00:34:04.940
songs that have really helped people through hard times or to feel different emotions wherever that
00:34:09.940
may look like so i think like this has really helped a lot of women too and i don't think that she promotes
00:34:14.940
the dink lifestyle as much as people think she does and i want to touch on even like her being person on
00:34:21.000
the of the year for a second because if you look at that you know she has made such an enormous amount
00:34:26.940
of impact not just in america but worldwide she was a household name everybody who was anybody in the
00:34:32.820
u.s was talking about taylor swift at least one time within the last year so even if it was a good
00:34:38.340
conversation or a bad conversation she was making the headlines and made an impact in our country
00:34:43.200
which is why i personally do think she deserved time person of the year because look last year was
00:34:47.420
zelinski don't like zelinski don't love what's going on in ukraine and you know i don't like him as
00:34:52.640
person of the year but it made sense for the time with b with that being a hot topic so you know
00:34:57.920
looking at gen z women who you know may have never read time magazine looking at the headlines looking
00:35:03.380
at you know women are statistically right now starting to move in a more i think conservative
00:35:08.340
way because they're starting to be fed up just with feminism and the wokeness of what's going on
00:35:13.100
not just in colleges but just everywhere around them because it's gotten so radicalized and even
00:35:18.020
taylor swift now you know she's in a relationship and a lot of women have attached onto that relationship
00:35:23.040
being obsessed with it and looking at how her and travis kelsey together you know it's like oh
00:35:27.540
i think she really is going to get married and have children now i mean today is actually her 34th
00:35:31.980
birthday which is pretty funny um so i think women are starting to like look up to her in a different
00:35:36.640
way as she has matured throughout the past decade go back you know to 2018 miss americana she was
00:35:42.680
talking a lot more about politics back then when she was talking about blackburn and pro-life and pro-choice
00:35:48.080
issues going back then now she hasn't really been making any of those political statements overtly
00:35:53.180
um and i think she just doesn't want to alienate her conservative audience that she does have which
00:35:58.820
i think is really really smart of her i definitely think you bring up some good points and we always
00:36:04.240
we always love diversity of opinions here in the war room it's fun to get to talk to people who maybe
00:36:10.020
we have subtle disagreements on the taylor swift stuff but i know we agree on on seed oils and all of
00:36:14.500
those things and our love for uh oh yeah for air one but uh i'm just i'm just curious before i let
00:36:21.180
you go um you know you you bring up the person of the year award right i think that was sort of
00:36:26.320
the the impetus for this you know it's taylor swift is it a new psyop for the 2024 election if you sort
00:36:32.460
of track the way that it got filtered through the media so some of the other kind of rationale that i saw
00:36:37.900
to her being selected if you if you set aside the conspiratorial you know taylor swift is set to
00:36:43.280
you know destroyed to the 2024 election for donald trump it's just that she's sort of as you have
00:36:48.660
outlined maybe one of the least offensive public figures right and she had a great year career wise
00:36:55.100
and she's not explicitly political as some might say so they sort of chose her because she's a great
00:37:01.640
distraction with all the chaos that's going on in this country thanks to joe biden i'm just curious
00:37:07.560
why why you think they they chose her do you think it was sort of a distraction play because to go from
00:37:12.180
zelensky to taylor swift is is i think two different ways of weaponizing for lack of a better word times
00:37:18.560
person of the year to achieve an agenda absolutely is she being weaponized against the american people
00:37:25.460
i mean it could be true do i know explicitly no i don't know and i do think you know given her track
00:37:32.020
record she back in 2020 endorsed biden with the famous cookie photo so you know she may be being
00:37:37.440
utilized in all of this but i think conservatives need to take a step back and maybe try and get
00:37:42.240
swifties on their side economically look at taylor swift she has made enormous economic impact across
00:37:48.060
the world five billion dollars just in the u.s because of her tour and actually going to those
00:37:53.440
different cities uh created an economic boom for them helping you know the inflation is going up and
00:37:58.940
that's thanks to the biden administration so she's kind of been helping out there but then also take
00:38:03.440
a look at when george soros purchased her masters to her music and in 2020 she spoke out against the
00:38:09.200
soros family so i think if conservatives just maybe put on a little bit of a different thinking cap
00:38:14.580
and go to swifties and be like hey we hate george soros just as much as you hey we hate the world
00:38:20.460
economic forum because of these reasons or hey you know what taylor swift is actually a capitalist and
00:38:26.160
an entrepreneur and you could actually make a lot of money if you think like taylor swift i think
00:38:30.880
socially she 100 is definitely more liberal is definitely pro-choice you know has more of a
00:38:36.820
liberal social issues but economically i personally see no reason that taylor swift could ever be a
00:38:42.480
democrat especially when she's making the amount of money she is is she being paid off i don't know
00:38:47.200
she's a billionaire now so i mean what political or what monetary gain does taylor swift have if she's
00:38:53.860
making money i really don't think she is i think she you know is just using her platform to elevate and
00:38:58.700
you know what she believes but overall i don't think she's as crazy of a leftist as people think
00:39:04.940
morgan thank you so much for joining us if people want to follow you i know you come in hot on
00:39:11.420
instagram you have a video that i think you had a million views on which is very exciting organically
00:39:16.380
no time person of the year psyop involved there but if people want to follow you where are you on all
00:39:21.580
platforms you're going to be at amfest is there are you speaking can they come see you
00:39:25.980
absolutely i encourage all of you guys to go to america fest this coming weekend and if you use my
00:39:32.880
name code morgan m-o-r-g-o-n-n you do get 25 off ba i will be there if you see me come say hi i'll be
00:39:39.040
filming i will not be speaking this year but i will be filming a lot of fun things and be on the media
00:39:43.480
row maybe i'll be with natalie on war room again this weekend but you can find me on all tpsa channels
00:39:48.560
impersonal m-o-r-g-o-n-n morgan thank you so much for joining us thank you natalie
00:39:56.680
now our next guest is someone who when steve first called me i think it was like 12 at night
00:40:04.200
a week ago i did i didn't know why he was calling and he goes natalie we need to do a special edition
00:40:10.540
of war room and i said on what you know i was gonna think oh it was the chinese communist party
00:40:15.440
something more in my wheelhouse he goes taylor swift and i started laughing i said okay and the
00:40:22.300
first person that came to my mind that i wanted to have on was darren beattie darren j beattie i
00:40:27.360
should say because i know he would have some wonderful takes on the issue from really a
00:40:33.100
perspective that only darren j beattie could have which could probably only be described as
00:40:37.540
white hot so darren we'll start easy your analysis on everything taylor swift do you think she is you
00:40:45.400
know a psyop being rolled out to influence the 2024 election do you think we're being overdramatic
00:40:49.740
where do you stand well i mean i think she's a psyop to the extent that any major celebrity who
00:40:58.060
mobilizes politically is a psyop you know you could say that the function of celebrity
00:41:04.260
um in the united states is sort of an instrument of soft power to a degree and that is really
00:41:11.760
nothing new but i have to concur with a little bit of what i heard earlier that um you know in the
00:41:18.980
grand scheme of um uh cultural representatives i think you could do a lot worse than taylor swift at
00:41:29.240
least by what little i know about her you know she's not i don't know i'm not the expert on this
00:41:35.720
but i don't think she is a twerker i don't think she twerks okay so she needs credit for that you know
00:41:42.640
given that you know what other videos there have been um that ben shapiro so elegantly um read out
00:41:50.040
the lyrics to the wop song compared to things like this you know tell taylor swift by pop icon
00:41:58.440
celebrity standards in the united states is wholesome i think we have to acknowledge that
00:42:04.900
that graded on the curve she's pretty wholesome and you know represents more or less uh uh not the worst
00:42:12.920
that you can be which is not a ringing endorsement but it's not a condemnation either as for the role
00:42:19.620
of these types of celebrities in politically mobilizing the young i mean that gets down to i mean
00:42:25.420
this might be the most controversial thing i say in this segment but this gets down to the real
00:42:30.380
essence of voter fraud which is how expansive the franchise has become if you have people who are
00:42:38.240
so easily manipulated and so easily corralled that they can be just registered and deployed at a
00:42:45.380
concert or you know there are many other mechanisms think about what they've done with the mail-in and the
00:42:51.020
you know um that isn't really democracy in any way resembling what the founders envisaged into how
00:42:59.300
you know informed citizens deliberate on who their rulers should be so there's so much talk about stolen
00:43:07.840
election and voter fraud but i guess the spiciest take i'll have of the segment is that expand the more
00:43:15.480
the franchise is expanded the more the voter fraud you have and that's the fraud of having people who
00:43:21.860
aren't informed who aren't capable of making deliberative decisions on things and you don't
00:43:26.740
have real skin in the game in the political community these people shouldn't be voting anyway
00:43:31.400
and if they weren't allowed to vote it would be a moot issue as to what taylor swift was telling
00:43:37.120
them to do in the ballot box what's far more impactful is her cultural significance and there like i said you
00:43:44.480
know just to put it in a very short version taylor swift doesn't twerk and so that puts her in
00:43:49.700
thinking the 99th percentile of you know wholesomeness in terms of um in terms of celebrities and also
00:43:56.820
we have to acknowledge she's tremendously successful um she's far superior to beyonce i think she beats
00:44:03.100
beyonce on basically every single metric imaginable beyonce who incidentally does twerk she famously
00:44:09.600
twerked uh in multiple songs uh in multiple songs so she surpasses beyonce along every category um she's
00:44:19.120
tremendously successful um she's surpassed whitney houston in multiple categories and she's even
00:44:27.640
surpassed barbara streisand actually she's uh barbara streisand used to have the record for the most
00:44:35.680
billboard 100 albums for a woman taylor swift unseated barbara streisand which i'm told is more
00:44:43.740
troubling to the jewish community than anything kanye west ever said so this is actually uh she has
00:44:52.720
she has a host of remarkable she has a host of remarkable achievements and um you know it's
00:45:00.420
i guess you could say she represents capitalism but she represents success she's not you know she
00:45:06.880
fits in this pop star category i have to be happen to be partial to michael jackson who basically invented
00:45:12.720
the nature what a modern pop star is um but she fills that category um as well as anyone in the
00:45:21.520
contemporary age could be expected to so i can't really lean into the condemnation i can't really
00:45:29.200
marshal any genuine negative energy about her uh she seems more or less okay rated on the curve
00:45:37.460
that we're given never did i ever think i i'd see the day where we have darren j beady on war room
00:45:45.820
saying the word twerk multiple times in one segment but but here we are you know no but but you you are
00:45:53.000
right graded on a curve which is more of an indictment of american pop culture she's not the worst but i think
00:45:58.280
that if you take it back to the clip that we opened the show with right she basically says i've never
00:46:03.460
become explicitly political because of fear of blowback from from fans right whether it's the
00:46:08.940
safety or just from a financial perspective but i think ingrained in that is that there's sort of this
00:46:14.920
more subversive push of politics right just because she doesn't it's like the mainstream media right when
00:46:20.940
you see people on cnn they don't tell you that they're democrats but they're talking points even
00:46:24.920
though they pretend to be neutral they're all driven by their own personal beliefs and i think
00:46:28.660
with taylor swift politically you see that going on but i think more so on the cultural side of things
00:46:33.900
i think you see that with the music she pushes out not just the you know banal critique of oh she hates
00:46:38.800
men and she's in all these relationships but i think that there's something almost more nefarious
00:46:44.420
or or more effective about her kind of approach to life being so subtle right as opposed to lizzo
00:46:52.260
or beyonce twerking on stage it's so repulsive that girls like you know me would never be into
00:46:57.160
that whereas with taylor swift it's sort of this like oh is she okay is she a good role model right
00:47:02.560
it's a little harder to parse through i'm just curious though we got we got a few minutes left i won't
00:47:07.680
make you talk about taylor swift even more but just if you want to expand a little bit i'm curious
00:47:12.880
going into the 2024 election you know how celebrities how these pop stars have just always
00:47:18.200
been used to push an agenda um who you think they're going to roll out ahead of the 2024 election
00:47:23.440
if you think that's going to be their their new approach just how you think it's going to unfold
00:47:27.740
yeah i mean it it from what i've seen it seems like she's been tapped to some degree to serve as a
00:47:35.920
political representative or a kind of mega surrogate for um for biden which you know could be interesting
00:47:44.580
because we don't even know if biden's going to be the guy so it could be a lot of wasted capital there
00:47:49.300
but she's definitely been tapped in as a surrogate but you know this is nothing new this is how
00:47:54.820
celebrities have been used um for a long time and you know with varying degrees of success you know i
00:48:03.240
think that's the other thing is yeah she can register some people at a concert and this or
00:48:07.960
that and it might have some impact but i think it's it's a drop in the bucket compared to other
00:48:15.220
factors like the mail-in voting issue and these kinds of things are just massive you know busing
00:48:22.320
operations and machine politics that have been set up in a variety of cities and um those are i think
00:48:29.800
far more consequential factors electorally speaking um than taylor swift's uh participation
00:48:37.980
so do you think that this could potentially be another one of these stories not that there's that
00:48:44.840
level of calculation behind it but i think republicans are sometimes really great at focusing on stories
00:48:50.340
that don't matter i say this on the heels of a one hour long special taylor swift but ignoring the
00:48:54.580
actual substantive issues right talking about how we're going to secure the 2024 election i'm just
00:48:59.500
curious from your perspective i know you've covered the government censorship complex stuff very
00:49:03.400
closely obviously january 6th but have you seen any movement ahead of the 2024 election that gives you
00:49:10.140
confidence that we are taking election security seriously
00:49:14.620
well there's a lot of talk about it but i haven't seen any kind of serious attempt at implementation
00:49:24.540
and we don't know what tricks uh the democrats have up their sleeves this time i don't think they could
00:49:32.320
pull off another covid at least not in the same way but i'm sure they have some other tricks and
00:49:38.480
keep in mind that with the criminal indictments of trump where they're effectively trying to make it
00:49:44.720
illegal for the for what president trump did on the basis of his belief that 2020 was stolen
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that sort of sets the precedent that any serious questioning of future elections uh could uh could be
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criminal so i think it's very dangerous what they seem to be setting up in that respect um i think
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that principally the democrats are focused now on what the heck they're going to do with biden because
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they need to come to some decision pretty soon and it doesn't look like he's viable but there are no
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easy alternatives and no easy way to get rid of him especially when his heir apparent or would-be heir
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kamala harris is such a non-starter and pretty universally acknowledged to be um repulsive to wide swaths of the
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electorate darren if you're working on anything feel free to tease it real quickly but if not if people
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want to follow you actually wait real quick who would you have chosen for times person of the year
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if you had to choose well you know that's a great question um i don't think taylor swift was a bad
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choice if they were going for a pop icon because she's had a tremendous year obviously you know elon would
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be the boring but eminently reasonable choice but then also given the significance of all of the
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ai stuff i could make a decent case for sam altman as well
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i would throw stephen k bannon in the ring and not just because i'm paid and not just because i'm paid
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to say that darren if people want to follow you that goes without saying where can they where can
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they go to do all that that's revolver.news revolver.news we're white hot today and we have
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big stuff coming up i'm on twitter at darren jbd and we are the whitest and the hottest on getter
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as always revolver news no twerking on revolver news no twerking in the war room no twerking on
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revolver news i think that's a that's a fitting end to the taylor swift special though you do
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depress me when you talk about grading american pop culture on a curve if taylor swift is in the
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hundredth percentile or 99th percentile that's uh pretty dark i would say darren thank you so much
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for joining us thank you natalie and war and posse thank you so much for hanging with me uh we'll be
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