On today's show, Frank Walker and Ben Harnwell discuss a new report from the Lepanto Institute, a non-profit organization that investigates the Vatican's relationship with communist ideas and movements. They argue that Pope Leo X is a communist.
00:03:26.240but then to radically undermine the actual teachings of the church.
00:03:31.220And Frank, just before we start breaking down what the Lepanto Institute has reported in this very in-depth document, I just want to ask Denver if you'd kindly put up the graphic I sent through from how, Frank, your very own website, Canon 212, pushed this.
00:03:53.700because I think it was absolutely true.
00:03:56.740It's basically Pope Leo telling the communists that he's there,
00:04:04.900that he's listening to them, and that he's with them.
00:04:08.840I think that graphic there that you can see on the screen,
00:04:11.000that really does, I think, Frank, compliment it to you.
00:04:15.340That really does bring out the sheer horror
00:04:17.920of what faithful Catholics now have to deal with.
00:04:22.740And again, whereas Pope Francis, inverted commas, of unhappy memory, was quite overt and blatant about his communist agitating,
00:04:37.420it was easy in a political sense to oppose him.
00:04:40.620It's far more difficult with Leo when we have key points of reference in the Catholic social media sphere, the trad Catholic social media sphere, telling their followers on social media not to be too aggressive with Leo because really he's one of us.
00:05:00.760He's given time. He's looking for opportunities to open access back up to the traditional Latin mass.
00:05:11.340Frank, tell me then about this report that was just produced a couple of days ago and about the popular movement that the Vatican has been hosting and what they stand for.
00:05:22.960And why on earth is the Vatican, I ask a rhetorical question here, but why on earth is the Vatican giving a voice and credibility to these movements that, to the extent that we know what they stand for, it is the dissolution of the Catholic faith?
00:05:40.160yes it's um it was quite a shock when this first happened uh with because it's happened five times
00:05:47.520now that they've had this meeting uh with francis uh you might remember way back when we first got
00:05:54.080francis he had a meeting and i think it was in ecuador and he got a uh he got a gifted uh cameron
00:06:01.160sickle crucifix which put communism together with the cross of christ and they have a picture of
00:06:08.740sort of liking it, and they have a picture of making a stern face at it, but it was such a shock
00:06:13.240when it happened. That is the beginning of what we've had all this time, which is
00:06:21.300a creation of sort of a communist church. Francis went on to say that communists stole the flag of
00:06:27.980Christianity, because Christianity all of the poor mingling together, admitting that communism
00:06:34.600was what his religion was and and this group the world the popular movements group uh you know0.93
00:06:42.400they're they're not like other communists other you know we live in sort of a communist world in
00:06:48.080so many ways and so many people push the agenda of communism but they don't say it but these groups
00:06:55.480this world meaning a popular movement it's just many many of a collection of them all together
00:06:59.520They say it. They say it outright. They read Karl Marx at family gatherings. They say who they are.
00:07:07.740And that's that's the difference. So it's such a shock that Leo actually addressed the latest one of these groups back in the fall when he was first made pope.
00:07:17.540And, you know, I want you to know that there was a founder of modern communism was an Italian.0.72
00:07:25.920Italians can be very good at communism.
00:07:28.700Antonio Gramsci, and the way he went about it was not through, like, violent revolution so much,0.94
00:07:33.960but through degrading the people morally, degrading the people,
00:07:38.740turning them into sort of a depraved people in order to be able to conquer them that way,
00:07:43.860because they would not be resistant that way.
00:07:46.060And people have mentioned over and over, he's dead now.
00:07:48.820Yuri Bezmenov from the KGB back in the 80s talked about how we were being targeted in the United States
00:07:55.180for demoralization. And that's what is happening here. And that's why we have a linking with the
00:08:02.940Catholic Church in the Francis and Leo era, openly with these groups. And so Leo gave a speech in
00:08:09.900Rome to this group of popular movements at a venue that was an old communist venue that is also,
00:08:18.900and if you look one by one through this enormous report by the wonderful Lepanto Institute,
00:08:23.540You can see that all of these communist popular movement groups are also very pro-LGBT, very pro-feminist, very much the program that I just mentioned by Gramsci and Bezman of how to install communism.
00:08:38.720and uh and uh well anyway he there are there are rude pictures in this in this venue so i don't
00:08:47.020think leo actually was there but there were other like like the the vicar of rome was there
00:08:52.540and and uh cardinal cerny was there and there's a new phase that this represents it's it's going
00:09:00.320into just just like you saw with the in the synod document there's a synodal phase of unity of
00:09:06.900integration happening now when with this latest meeting of the world uh popular movements
00:09:12.860actually bringing communism into the church let's just look at this then in context because you
00:09:20.580quite correctly mentioned antonio gramsci who's like the high priest of cultural marxism uh it's
00:09:27.060often attributed to him the expression i don't know if he ever said it but he's definitely
00:09:31.140attributed to him because it sort of it indicates his philosophy here I think it was the slow march
00:09:37.620through the institutions right this is if you really want to get communism to take root you
00:09:43.460have to capture the cultural institutions that people look towards and defer towards and
00:09:49.920infiltrate them and being a slow march is something that is gradual and it will take time
00:09:56.240But once you do that, you will then be able to move forward with the with the agenda of of of installing cultural communism, then to get to economic communism, though, Frank, you probably don't know if you'd agree with me, but I think cultural communism is even worse than than economic communism, which in itself is pretty bad.
00:10:18.160Now, you also mentioned the strategy of demoralization. Say what that is in a bit, if you wouldn't mind, just break that down to perhaps the war impossible that might be new to the term.
00:10:31.260Because I think, having said a bit about Antonio Gramsci, having said a bit then about these world meetings of popular movements, which are basically cultural Marxist fronts, and Leo basically gives them the full-throated endorsement beneath the radar, of course, but lets them know that he's there with them as a fellow traveller when he says, sort of, I am with you, which is very clear indicating.0.96
00:10:59.560It's the sort of thing that Bet Goliath would have said, assuming that people are too stupid to see what he's doing.0.97
00:11:05.280And even if they see what they're doing, they're too weak and cowardly to openly oppose him on it.0.99
00:11:13.080But I think it's quite clear that Leo is following the Francis agenda.
00:11:17.080Tell us, however, because that's the missing link, I think, about the demoralization.
00:12:56.840And I think the best way is to see this rebirth in the church that we're having today is rebirth in the church.
00:13:03.120The sacraments, mass and prayer is how you undo that kind of thing, because that's just a miraculous effect on people.
00:13:12.840Frank, you've got that absolutely correct.
00:13:15.600And of course, as the revival is taking place, we know who's going to be in first position to try and kick in the back of the knees the Generation Z that is on fire for the faith, like nothing we've ever seen in my life.
00:13:36.740So I'm just going to give a quick shout out to one of our show sponsors to see what the U.S. Catholic bishops are doing, my dear war room posse, in your face, in the face of the Catholic faithful, the Catholic bishops do not have the, to use again Francis's term, the smell, the pastors of the Catholic church do not have the smell of the sheep, not mostly.
00:14:03.540Well, Fortune magazine carried a headline a couple of days ago saying that as the U.S. debt nears $39 trillion, you, American taxpayers, are now paying $3 billion in interest payments to service that debt per day.
00:14:28.760three billion dollars per day simply servicing the national debt now you have to ask yourselves
00:14:37.020what is congress going to do long term is it going to present itself to the american people
00:14:43.520and say we've been living beyond our means and therefore we're going to trim back on spending
00:14:50.460on defense we're going to trim back uh spending on social security we're going to balance the
00:14:56.700We're not only going to balance the budget, but we're also going to start paying off the national debt.
00:15:04.080Do you think it's either going to do that, which is A, or do you think Congress will, B, kick the can down the road by printing more dollars?
00:15:13.560Well, if your inclination is B, that that will be the solution, then obviously you will want a hedge for your savings that is not dollar denominated.
00:15:26.660And that's why gold is constantly nudging up in terms of its commodity value.
00:15:34.440So, therefore, you will ask yourselves not only about that, but also the general situation of the economy over the next six months to do with the Strait of Hormuz being blockaded.
00:15:45.720Of course, the true costs of that haven't yet been felt.
00:15:51.680And you will want to take into consideration in terms of your portfolio, your savings, your pension funds, possibly having a component in gold.
00:16:03.080That is where Birch Gold Group come in. That's where Philip Patrick and his team will come in.
00:16:09.700And if you're thinking about doing this, but still haven't got round to buying actual preserves of the yellow metal,
00:16:19.320then now is the time to call Philip Patrick.
00:16:22.000because between now and the 29th of May,
00:16:27.060Birch Gold Group is giving a first-time gold buyers
00:16:31.020rebate of up to $10,000 on qualifying purchases.
00:16:36.160So if you want more details about that
00:16:49.580to the number 989898 and Birch Gold Group can help you convert an existing IRA or 401k into a
00:17:00.280tax-sheltered IRA in physical gold. Text Bannon once again to 989898 to see if you qualify
00:17:08.320for a first-time gold buyer rebate of up to $10,000. Again, text Bannon to 989898.
00:17:15.980Frank Walker, the bishops then have put out this statement in the last couple of days, objecting to the Trump administration's tightening of asylum, especially with regards to federal housing assistance.
00:17:33.500Tell us there, if you wouldn't mind, what exactly are the Catholic Church's bishops up to?
00:17:40.640well they they um they're going to make it so that uh if you it used to be that if you had one
00:17:47.860or two illegals aliens living in your house they kind of cut back your housing assistance0.80
00:17:51.940now they're just going to cut it back completely and also um they're going to cut back your0.94
00:17:56.780educational assistance the bishops have you know they've complained that they're they'll lose
00:18:02.320federal housing cash and that there's uh there's a one-year waiting period for them to work for
00:18:07.700employment. So this is against everything that Jesus taught, according to the bishops.
00:18:14.140They're crying about family separations because some will have to just leave,
00:18:18.500and some will have to split up about who's living in the house. Some people are going to get kicked
00:18:22.340out because of the way they changed the policy. And it's a heartbreaking choice. It'll drive up
00:18:28.580homelessness, they say. Some of them might not be able to find their paperwork. And all of that,
00:18:35.420they're denying subsidies to people with mixed status is just morally wrong. Now, do you think
00:18:41.580that, I mean, you know, so if you think that's wrong, I would have to differ with you on that.
00:18:48.060They say that the employment rule is flat out illegal because sometimes people can't work,
00:18:53.400but they're illegal aliens. The dignity of the human person and the right to have work, see,
00:18:58.620that's what they're going against. And the Bible, the gospel says to welcome the stranger. How many
00:19:03.900times they said that. It's not true. The gospel says to welcome the stranger. And what about the
00:19:09.200preferential option for the poor, the bishops say? And that's in Vatican II. They say that all the
00:19:14.080time. Where is that? That's not the gospel. And it's against the common good. And you're supposed
00:19:18.260to be able to provide in a dignified way. That means that it's everybody's responsibility to
00:19:23.140make sure that illegal aliens, not only that they have jobs, but it's dignified. I mean,
00:19:28.500got to be really dignified. And they have to be able to use their God-given talents too.
00:19:33.900What I like about these bishops, even though their knowledge of the gospel is scant, if not zero,
00:19:43.860they're now setting themselves up as judges, basically, as experts in jurisprudence.
00:19:54.520They're setting themselves up as the Supreme Court.
00:19:57.540Because as you say, the Catholic bishops have come out and said that this proposed employment rule violates the law, which is wow.
00:20:07.420I mean, I didn't know bishops had that charism in able to look at the law and see, look at the proposed law, excuse me, and say before it's even been written that it is against the Constitution.
00:20:23.560That's a new one for me, right? Is that true?
00:20:25.860Yeah. I mean, they don't know what's legal or what's moral. And they're proclaiming on both. And decent, regular people can understand that that's wrong. It's not fair. You don't have a right to housing, free housing. You don't have a right to jobs no matter what.
00:20:41.900These are, like we were talking, these are aspects of the communist platform.
00:20:47.160The platform that we discussed earlier is in all of the bishops' programs.
00:20:52.640Everything that they point to in that popular movement when it comes to actual policy that they push is no different.
00:21:00.200It's no different because exactly what we have seen since the Second Vatican Council, which I think finished in 1965, is the whole scale importation of communism, of masquerading as Catholic social teaching, right?0.63
00:21:21.380And that is the one thing that Catholics aren't allowed to speak out against.
00:21:27.620you're allowed to speak out against the church's position on pro-life
00:21:33.240or on the Catholic Church's traditional teaching on human sexuality.
00:21:38.240Those things you have a free reign to speak out against if you don't like them.
00:21:45.320The Marxism that has entered the church and the social Catholic teaching,
00:21:50.120that's not questionable. You're not allowed to question that.
00:21:53.580And the irony is Frank Walker. Tell me if I'm right or wrong on this. I thought, it was my understanding, that most of what pertains to such Catholic social teaching is really prudential judgment issues about which, on which, the Catholic layman is free to form his or her own opinion on how best to get to the common good.
00:22:21.580Right. And communism itself is not a position. Communism is not a position. You should choose what you can choose. But the popes up to Pius XII condemned, excommunicated you for supporting communism.
00:22:36.500That means that these bishops and Pope Leo are excommunicated by church teaching by previous popes. I mean, that's the kind of thing that we're up against now.
00:22:45.020And at this Catholic World Report—and, you know, this is the Feast of Our Lady of Fatima who said that Russia will spread its communist errors throughout the world if you don't consecrate Russia to my Immaculate Heart.
00:23:00.940And it was not done, and it wasn't really done, but even if it wasn't, it wasn't done in time.0.55
00:23:06.060And you can see they're spread well throughout the Church.
00:23:09.140This Catholic World Report piece here on the bishops and the illegal aliens, which is also a part—there's a guy, Luca Casarelli.
00:23:29.680He was also arrested for a communist protest that was violent, where somebody died against Berlusconi.
00:23:36.260And he was the one that came up with that picture of Leo holding up a communist banner when he was younger during the Reagan administration.
00:23:43.040And he was protesting missiles placed against Russia when they were fighting against communist Russia.
00:23:49.140There's a picture of Leo. Leo is a communist going way back.
00:23:52.420And this Luca Casarini has made that clear.
00:23:54.860This Luca Casarini is a communist organizer in Italy and was at this world popular movements meeting.
00:24:01.040um yeah he he uh he knows leo a long a long time and he and uh well anyway it's um he's also pushing
00:24:10.820the illegal aliens agenda as well and there's at the catholic report there's a there's a comment
00:24:16.300by a guy named oscar at the bottom of that that shows all the crimes of illegal aliens in the
00:24:20.960united states one after another after another after another these are real lives these are
00:24:25.280real violent things. These are the kind of things that make, you know, society impossible to live
00:24:32.540in. You know, there was a piece yesterday by a guy in Germany. He said, I can't raise my kids.
00:24:37.040He's a comedian in Germany with 2 million followers. I'm going to have to come out of
00:24:40.780this country because it's not safe here anymore. And we don't even hear about where the bishop's
00:24:45.520going to talk about that. What does that have to do with human dignity? So just before we go
00:24:51.920to the commercial break just recap for this right uh because i think unless your sources of
00:24:58.240information are the war room our wednesday show or canon 212 you probably aren't going to be aware
00:25:04.340of this but in the last couple of weeks then so we've we've had emerged the photo of leo from the
00:25:10.66080s holding up communist literature as a communist agitator but also in the last few weeks some
00:25:17.080Photos of him prostrating himself down to the pagan idol, Pachamama, right?
00:35:41.120It's spiritual abuse because the Catholic Church teaches Catholics, drawing from its interpretation of the Ten Commandments, that if you miss Mass on a single Sunday, you are in a state of sin.
00:35:56.620And if you don't go to confession, you will spend eternity in hell.0.92
00:36:01.220If you miss one Mass on Sunday, that is the perennial teaching of the Church, which I'm quite happy to say, that is the truth.0.90
00:36:11.120But what they're doing is they're using that discipline on faithful Catholics to make them subscribe to a philosophy which is of the world and not of Jesus Christ.0.77
00:36:24.180It's really quite satanic what they're doing.0.93
00:38:49.620It's to monitor Spanish patriots who are supporting a party which is openly, part of its platform is open about protecting the Christian roots of Spanish society.
00:39:12.920That is what this Vatican, the present Vatican and its immediate predecessor, it's what they cannot abide and what they cannot support.
00:39:21.440And Frank Walker, the reason why we come on this show every Wednesday, we say the same thing again and again and again.
00:39:28.820It's because Catholics need to be fully aware of this and to be able to use their agency to act in the best interest of preserving their faith for themselves, for their family.
00:39:40.760there is nothing more essential for a lay Catholic than that
00:39:45.380than the preservation of the true unchanging Catholic faith
00:39:48.780and the people that Christ appointed and gave the charism
00:39:53.800to safeguard the integrity of the Catholic faith
00:39:57.700are now using that office to undermine the Catholic faith0.80
00:40:02.560and under obedience to get Catholics to believe
00:40:07.500what is basically the gospel of this world
00:40:09.700As I said before, it really is quite satanic in its subtlety.
00:40:14.820I mean, it's only subtlety if you are badly, if you're not paying attention.
00:40:19.320If this is the most important thing in your life and you're praying for this,
00:40:25.240you're praying for the ability to remain true to the Catholic faith.
00:40:30.220The wiles of the devil are extremely obvious to see, right?
00:43:55.260You need people to actually fight for the church in the name of conservative politics.
00:44:01.840Frank, they're highly shepherds, and they have already had their reward.1.00
00:44:05.900um the the thing the solution forward is to awaken catholics out of their sense of slumber1.00
00:44:13.420and so that as we do as you do canon 212 every day as we do on the womb awaken catholics out0.89
00:44:20.640of their sense of complacency rediscover their sense of agency um and put the church back on
00:44:28.480the right path because christendom western civilization depends on it frank we've got
00:44:36.180some good news today i think going back to the gospels a small town mentioned in in the gospels
00:44:43.300where our blessed lord fulfilled a number of miracles has been rediscovered after 2000 years
00:44:52.040Stay with this. I just want to give a quick shout out to two more of our sponsors on today's show.
00:44:59.120Let's start with HTL, Home Title Lock. If you are a home owner, listen to this, folks,
00:45:06.140because in today's AI and cyber world, scammers are stealing home titles with more ease than ever before.
00:45:14.580And your equity is the target. You know how it works by now.
00:45:18.860The criminals forge signatures, stick them on one document, they use fake notary stamps, they pay a tiny fee with the county, and that's it.
00:45:28.940Your home title has been transferred out of your name, and it is as simple as that.
00:45:34.660And then they take out loans using your equity or even sell your property outright.
00:45:39.480You won't even know it's happened until you start to get those collection notices or the foreclosures.
00:45:45.440so let me ask you when was the last time you checked your home title probably like me never
00:45:51.680and that's exactly what the scammers are counting on and that's why we at the war room trust home
00:45:58.880title lock use promo code steve at home title lock.com to make sure your title is still in
00:46:05.780your name you'll also get a free title history report plus a free 14-day trial of their million
00:46:11.740triple lock protection that's 24 7 monitoring on your title urgent alerts to any changes and fraud
00:46:19.200if it should happen then they're going to spend up to 1 million dollars fixing it so go to home
00:46:23.700title lock dot com now use promo code steve and i'll give a quick shout out as well to chapter
00:46:33.580If you're 65 or already on Medicare, then grab your pen and write down this number, 845-Wallroom, call it.
00:46:45.020The guys there, unlike most of the health sector, aren't paid off by the health lobby, the multi-billion dollar a year health lobby.
00:46:54.540They will give you at chapter impartial advice and tell you how you might be able to lower premiums because they, of course, read the fine print that nobody but a lobbyist would understand.
00:47:11.440And millions of American seniors are paying way too much.
00:47:15.500So call once again 845-WALL-ROOM right now and tell them when they answer the phone that Steve Bannon sent you.
00:47:28.380So Frank Walker, closing five minutes of the show.
00:47:31.580So Bethsaida mentioned many times in the Gospels, if I'm not mistaken,
00:47:39.100it's where the feeding of the 5,000 was reputed to have taken place.
00:47:45.760Again, if I'm not mistaken, after the resurrection,
00:47:50.940the feeding of the 5,000 is the only miracle in the New Testament
00:47:57.320to be accounted, to be mentioned, and to be narrated in all four Gospels,
00:48:04.500the three synoptics and John, the feeding of the 5,000.
00:48:07.960Bethsaida, tell me what has been discovered on the north shore of the Sea of Galilee.
00:48:14.600Well, I think it was in some area of brush that's nearby.
00:48:19.080But they found an old Byzantine-era church, and underneath that a house.
00:48:24.380And they're thinking that that could be the house of Peter because this was the town of Peter, Andrew, and Philip.
00:48:31.900And so that's a big deal to find the first pope's actual house in the town where they had, where Jesus fed the 5,000 and where Jesus healed a blind man and where he walked on water nearby.
00:48:48.780So it was, you know, and Jews yelled at the town of Bethsaida.
00:48:52.880He said, woe to you if all the works performed and you were performed in other places, they would have put on sackcloth and ashes.
00:49:00.000But you didn't, you know, you didn't repent and you should repent.
00:49:03.120These are all the biblical references to this.
00:49:05.080So if you've actually found a church that was over the house of Peter, that's a big deal.
00:49:11.200They're not making it like it's definite.
00:49:12.940They're saying that, but it's about as compelling as it gets in this talk that they gave in Washington, T.C.
00:49:17.860I you know I think it's a very hopeful story because you know if we can find a house of0.87
00:49:24.780Peter again then maybe we can actually get a Catholic Pope again tell me I don't mean to be
00:49:31.620cynical Frank Walker but why is this suddenly coming to note right now at this moment in time
00:49:38.420seems a bit like an ace that's been up his sleeve and and somebody in Israel has thought now's a
00:49:44.460great time to play this card am i being cynical i don't know and you you know you you you have a
00:49:50.380you're insightful so if you think that that might be the case i don't know there were three towns
00:49:55.740different towns that were vying for the place that it was that was actual ruin but now they
00:50:01.980actually feel like they've discovered it i don't know do you see another other evidence than that
00:50:05.680they said that they're now it's down to just two but they think this is like the key evidence but
00:50:09.940But in the piece, it doesn't really say what exactly it was about it.
00:50:15.200I need to brush up on the gospel, because I always thought St. Peter was from Capernaum.
00:50:22.800And I've obviously got something in my head.
00:50:26.080I need to go back and do a reference on that.
00:50:28.580I thought Capernaum was where Christ, that was the headquarters of Christ's missionary work in and around Galilee.
00:50:37.520well okay well i think you might be right here it says we have on the first century house wall
00:50:43.040under the apps it doesn't have a plaque that says peter slept slept here but from perspective
00:50:48.100archaeology it doesn't get much better than that no it may be right maybe they don't know
00:50:54.680uh but i i find i find i don't want to be cynical but i found the the dropping of this particular
00:51:02.260because of course it's going to get a lot of americans very interested right now wanting
00:51:07.140pilgrimages to go over to the Holy Land. But I don't mean to be cynical. Perhaps it's totally
00:51:13.720innocent. And it's the age of the Leo, so we have to hear about the first pope a lot.
00:51:19.260That kind of thing, I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah, well, I always like to, yeah, of course.
00:51:25.880I do insist, however, that unlike the mainstream media narrative, we don't consider, not on the
00:51:32.220war room leo as being the first american pope um because i think his formation is totally latin
00:51:39.800american folks that is it's amazing how quickly an hour goes that is all we have time for i do
00:51:45.620want to give a shout out i mentioned at the beginning of the show i do want to give a shout
00:51:50.060out to canon 212 i i check that website every day uh so i get a feeling for myself that i'm up to