Bannon's War Room - May 13, 2026


WarRoom Battleground EP 1009： Another Week, Another Long List Of Examples Of How Much “Pope Leo” Hates His Flock

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On today's show, Frank Walker and Ben Harnwell discuss a new report from the Lepanto Institute, a non-profit organization that investigates the Vatican's relationship with communist ideas and movements. They argue that Pope Leo X is a communist.

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00:00:44 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.
00:00:48 Wednesday, 13th of May, Anno Domini, 2026.
00:01:00 Harnwell here at the helm on Steve Bannon's War Room.
00:01:03 Good evening.
00:01:04 Well, we have tonight put together some stories
00:01:08 that we haven't been able to mention over the last couple of weeks.
00:01:13 But there's a narrative that ties them together,
00:01:16 and that's why we're going to go through them now
00:01:18 and explain exactly what that narrative is.
00:01:22 And, folks, it's basically the argument
00:01:24 that we've been pushing here on the war room
00:01:26 for about the very day that Pope Leo
00:01:31 stepped out onto the lodger at St. Peter's Basilica,
00:01:35 and that is going against the mainstream narrative,
00:01:40 the mainstream media narrative,
00:01:42 coupled along with Tfad Inc.
00:01:44 This Pope is not open to tradition, and he's not your friend.
00:01:50 In fact, my dear Warren Posse, the man that a lot of people acknowledge and recognize as Pope
00:01:58 is the enemy of everything that you hold of value and that you hold sacred.
00:02:05 Frank Walker, a regular analyst, is here with me this evening,
00:02:10 dear the Editor-in-Chief of Canon 212,
00:02:15 the Trad Catholic, Matt Drudge.
00:02:19 Frank, welcome on to the show, as ever.
00:02:21 Thank you. Thanks, Ben.
00:02:23 Well, let's do this in order, then.
00:02:27 So the Lepanto Foundation has just produced,
00:02:36 a couple of days ago, a 140-page report that details how, in inverted commas, Pope Leo
00:02:47 has used a number of meetings of engaged in inverted commas popular movements that have
00:02:55 been sponsored by the Vatican at various locations. And I say inverted commas popular movements
00:03:05 because on analysis, on investigation,
00:03:10 these are basically just fronts for what appears to be
00:03:15 little more than cultural Marxism,
00:03:20 dressed up, speaking the language of the church
00:03:23 to get a foot through the door,
00:03:26 but then to radically undermine the actual teachings of the church.
00:03:31 And Frank, just before we start breaking down what the Lepanto Institute has reported in this very in-depth document, I just want to ask Denver if you'd kindly put up the graphic I sent through from how, Frank, your very own website, Canon 212, pushed this.
00:03:53 because I think it was absolutely true.
00:03:56 It's basically Pope Leo telling the communists that he's there,
00:04:04 that he's listening to them, and that he's with them.
00:04:08 I think that graphic there that you can see on the screen,
00:04:11 that really does, I think, Frank, compliment it to you.
00:04:15 That really does bring out the sheer horror
00:04:17 of what faithful Catholics now have to deal with.
00:04:22 And again, whereas Pope Francis, inverted commas, of unhappy memory, was quite overt and blatant about his communist agitating,
00:04:37 it was easy in a political sense to oppose him.
00:04:40 It's far more difficult with Leo when we have key points of reference in the Catholic social media sphere, the trad Catholic social media sphere, telling their followers on social media not to be too aggressive with Leo because really he's one of us.
00:05:00 He's given time. He's looking for opportunities to open access back up to the traditional Latin mass.
00:05:11 Frank, tell me then about this report that was just produced a couple of days ago and about the popular movement that the Vatican has been hosting and what they stand for.
00:05:22 And why on earth is the Vatican, I ask a rhetorical question here, but why on earth is the Vatican giving a voice and credibility to these movements that, to the extent that we know what they stand for, it is the dissolution of the Catholic faith?
00:05:40 yes it's um it was quite a shock when this first happened uh with because it's happened five times
00:05:47 now that they've had this meeting uh with francis uh you might remember way back when we first got
00:05:54 francis he had a meeting and i think it was in ecuador and he got a uh he got a gifted uh cameron
00:06:01 sickle crucifix which put communism together with the cross of christ and they have a picture of
00:06:08 sort of liking it, and they have a picture of making a stern face at it, but it was such a shock
00:06:13 when it happened. That is the beginning of what we've had all this time, which is
00:06:21 a creation of sort of a communist church. Francis went on to say that communists stole the flag of
00:06:27 Christianity, because Christianity all of the poor mingling together, admitting that communism
00:06:34 was what his religion was and and this group the world the popular movements group uh you know 0.93
00:06:42 they're they're not like other communists other you know we live in sort of a communist world in
00:06:48 so many ways and so many people push the agenda of communism but they don't say it but these groups
00:06:55 this world meaning a popular movement it's just many many of a collection of them all together
00:06:59 They say it. They say it outright. They read Karl Marx at family gatherings. They say who they are.
00:07:07 And that's that's the difference. So it's such a shock that Leo actually addressed the latest one of these groups back in the fall when he was first made pope.
00:07:17 And, you know, I want you to know that there was a founder of modern communism was an Italian. 0.72
00:07:25 Italians can be very good at communism.
00:07:28 Antonio Gramsci, and the way he went about it was not through, like, violent revolution so much, 0.94
00:07:33 but through degrading the people morally, degrading the people,
00:07:38 turning them into sort of a depraved people in order to be able to conquer them that way,
00:07:43 because they would not be resistant that way.
00:07:46 And people have mentioned over and over, he's dead now.
00:07:48 Yuri Bezmenov from the KGB back in the 80s talked about how we were being targeted in the United States
00:07:55 for demoralization. And that's what is happening here. And that's why we have a linking with the
00:08:02 Catholic Church in the Francis and Leo era, openly with these groups. And so Leo gave a speech in
00:08:09 Rome to this group of popular movements at a venue that was an old communist venue that is also,
00:08:18 and if you look one by one through this enormous report by the wonderful Lepanto Institute,
00:08:23 You can see that all of these communist popular movement groups are also very pro-LGBT, very pro-feminist, very much the program that I just mentioned by Gramsci and Bezman of how to install communism.
00:08:38 and uh and uh well anyway he there are there are rude pictures in this in this venue so i don't
00:08:47 think leo actually was there but there were other like like the the vicar of rome was there
00:08:52 and and uh cardinal cerny was there and there's a new phase that this represents it's it's going
00:09:00 into just just like you saw with the in the synod document there's a synodal phase of unity of
00:09:06 integration happening now when with this latest meeting of the world uh popular movements
00:09:12 actually bringing communism into the church let's just look at this then in context because you
00:09:20 quite correctly mentioned antonio gramsci who's like the high priest of cultural marxism uh it's
00:09:27 often attributed to him the expression i don't know if he ever said it but he's definitely
00:09:31 attributed to him because it sort of it indicates his philosophy here I think it was the slow march
00:09:37 through the institutions right this is if you really want to get communism to take root you
00:09:43 have to capture the cultural institutions that people look towards and defer towards and
00:09:49 infiltrate them and being a slow march is something that is gradual and it will take time
00:09:56 But once you do that, you will then be able to move forward with the with the agenda of of of installing cultural communism, then to get to economic communism, though, Frank, you probably don't know if you'd agree with me, but I think cultural communism is even worse than than economic communism, which in itself is pretty bad.
00:10:18 Now, you also mentioned the strategy of demoralization. Say what that is in a bit, if you wouldn't mind, just break that down to perhaps the war impossible that might be new to the term.
00:10:31 Because I think, having said a bit about Antonio Gramsci, having said a bit then about these world meetings of popular movements, which are basically cultural Marxist fronts, and Leo basically gives them the full-throated endorsement beneath the radar, of course, but lets them know that he's there with them as a fellow traveller when he says, sort of, I am with you, which is very clear indicating. 0.96
00:10:59 It's the sort of thing that Bet Goliath would have said, assuming that people are too stupid to see what he's doing. 0.97
00:11:05 And even if they see what they're doing, they're too weak and cowardly to openly oppose him on it. 0.99
00:11:13 But I think it's quite clear that Leo is following the Francis agenda.
00:11:17 Tell us, however, because that's the missing link, I think, about the demoralization.
00:11:21 What is that?
00:11:23 Well, from what I understand, it's the same kind of thing as Gromsky.
00:11:26 even in the 80s, he said it was pretty much complete in the United States. And I know that
00:11:31 in that time period, you know, just in my lifetime, all the families began to dissolve
00:11:35 into divorce. But I think you can see why union with the church, and in fact, it was in the 70s,
00:11:45 the 60s and the 70s, that all these new immoral things became modern and believable and just okay.
00:11:52 and in fact and also dissolution of faith in christian faith so he uh um uh bezmanov said
00:12:00 that it would you get to such a point where they could even put us in the gulag and we still
00:12:06 wouldn't believe that we were there that we we could be faced with the injustice of communism
00:12:11 right in our face and not be able to do anything about it and that's kind of where we are now and
00:12:17 it's good to see things like this people actually naming themselves in communism linking with
00:12:22 what's supposed to be the catholic church to help us you know look at the way we think and say
00:12:26 have i been led into this is this um is this atheism is this anti-christian feeling that i
00:12:34 grew up in is this lousy fair attitude about morals is this some just my own idea are these
00:12:40 ideas been sort of given to me it's been built in the culture around me don't just accept
00:12:45 and but and and try to explore things that that are not you know handed to you through the media
00:12:51 I think that's what you, you have to resist that demoralization.
00:12:55 You have to undo it.
00:12:56 And I think the best way is to see this rebirth in the church that we're having today is rebirth in the church.
00:13:03 The sacraments, mass and prayer is how you undo that kind of thing, because that's just a miraculous effect on people.
00:13:12 Frank, you've got that absolutely correct.
00:13:15 And of course, as the revival is taking place, we know who's going to be in first position to try and kick in the back of the knees the Generation Z that is on fire for the faith, like nothing we've ever seen in my life.
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00:17:15 Frank Walker, the bishops then have put out this statement in the last couple of days, objecting to the Trump administration's tightening of asylum, especially with regards to federal housing assistance.
00:17:33 Tell us there, if you wouldn't mind, what exactly are the Catholic Church's bishops up to?
00:17:40 well they they um they're going to make it so that uh if you it used to be that if you had one
00:17:47 or two illegals aliens living in your house they kind of cut back your housing assistance 0.80
00:17:51 now they're just going to cut it back completely and also um they're going to cut back your 0.94
00:17:56 educational assistance the bishops have you know they've complained that they're they'll lose
00:18:02 federal housing cash and that there's uh there's a one-year waiting period for them to work for
00:18:07 employment. So this is against everything that Jesus taught, according to the bishops.
00:18:14 They're crying about family separations because some will have to just leave,
00:18:18 and some will have to split up about who's living in the house. Some people are going to get kicked
00:18:22 out because of the way they changed the policy. And it's a heartbreaking choice. It'll drive up
00:18:28 homelessness, they say. Some of them might not be able to find their paperwork. And all of that,
00:18:35 they're denying subsidies to people with mixed status is just morally wrong. Now, do you think
00:18:41 that, I mean, you know, so if you think that's wrong, I would have to differ with you on that.
00:18:48 They say that the employment rule is flat out illegal because sometimes people can't work,
00:18:53 but they're illegal aliens. The dignity of the human person and the right to have work, see,
00:18:58 that's what they're going against. And the Bible, the gospel says to welcome the stranger. How many
00:19:03 times they said that. It's not true. The gospel says to welcome the stranger. And what about the
00:19:09 preferential option for the poor, the bishops say? And that's in Vatican II. They say that all the
00:19:14 time. Where is that? That's not the gospel. And it's against the common good. And you're supposed
00:19:18 to be able to provide in a dignified way. That means that it's everybody's responsibility to
00:19:23 make sure that illegal aliens, not only that they have jobs, but it's dignified. I mean,
00:19:28 got to be really dignified. And they have to be able to use their God-given talents too.
00:19:33 What I like about these bishops, even though their knowledge of the gospel is scant, if not zero,
00:19:43 they're now setting themselves up as judges, basically, as experts in jurisprudence.
00:19:54 They're setting themselves up as the Supreme Court.
00:19:57 Because as you say, the Catholic bishops have come out and said that this proposed employment rule violates the law, which is wow.
00:20:07 I mean, I didn't know bishops had that charism in able to look at the law and see, look at the proposed law, excuse me, and say before it's even been written that it is against the Constitution.
00:20:23 That's a new one for me, right? Is that true?
00:20:25 Yeah. I mean, they don't know what's legal or what's moral. And they're proclaiming on both. And decent, regular people can understand that that's wrong. It's not fair. You don't have a right to housing, free housing. You don't have a right to jobs no matter what.
00:20:41 These are, like we were talking, these are aspects of the communist platform.
00:20:47 The platform that we discussed earlier is in all of the bishops' programs.
00:20:52 Everything that they point to in that popular movement when it comes to actual policy that they push is no different.
00:20:59 It's no different at all.
00:21:00 It's no different because exactly what we have seen since the Second Vatican Council, which I think finished in 1965, is the whole scale importation of communism, of masquerading as Catholic social teaching, right? 0.63
00:21:21 And that is the one thing that Catholics aren't allowed to speak out against.
00:21:27 you're allowed to speak out against the church's position on pro-life
00:21:33 or on the Catholic Church's traditional teaching on human sexuality.
00:21:38 Those things you have a free reign to speak out against if you don't like them.
00:21:45 The Marxism that has entered the church and the social Catholic teaching,
00:21:50 that's not questionable. You're not allowed to question that.
00:21:53 And the irony is Frank Walker. Tell me if I'm right or wrong on this. I thought, it was my understanding, that most of what pertains to such Catholic social teaching is really prudential judgment issues about which, on which, the Catholic layman is free to form his or her own opinion on how best to get to the common good.
00:22:21 Right. And communism itself is not a position. Communism is not a position. You should choose what you can choose. But the popes up to Pius XII condemned, excommunicated you for supporting communism.
00:22:36 That means that these bishops and Pope Leo are excommunicated by church teaching by previous popes. I mean, that's the kind of thing that we're up against now.
00:22:45 And at this Catholic World Report—and, you know, this is the Feast of Our Lady of Fatima who said that Russia will spread its communist errors throughout the world if you don't consecrate Russia to my Immaculate Heart.
00:23:00 And it was not done, and it wasn't really done, but even if it wasn't, it wasn't done in time. 0.55
00:23:06 And you can see they're spread well throughout the Church.
00:23:09 This Catholic World Report piece here on the bishops and the illegal aliens, which is also a part—there's a guy, Luca Casarelli.
00:23:22 You might know him, Ben.
00:23:23 Luca Casarelli was involved in that movement, popular movement.
00:23:26 He's also involved in illegal aliens.
00:23:29 He was also arrested for a communist protest that was violent, where somebody died against Berlusconi.
00:23:36 And he was the one that came up with that picture of Leo holding up a communist banner when he was younger during the Reagan administration.
00:23:43 And he was protesting missiles placed against Russia when they were fighting against communist Russia.
00:23:49 There's a picture of Leo. Leo is a communist going way back.
00:23:52 And this Luca Casarini has made that clear.
00:23:54 This Luca Casarini is a communist organizer in Italy and was at this world popular movements meeting.
00:24:01 um yeah he he uh he knows leo a long a long time and he and uh well anyway it's um he's also pushing
00:24:10 the illegal aliens agenda as well and there's at the catholic report there's a there's a comment
00:24:16 by a guy named oscar at the bottom of that that shows all the crimes of illegal aliens in the
00:24:20 united states one after another after another after another these are real lives these are
00:24:25 real violent things. These are the kind of things that make, you know, society impossible to live
00:24:32 in. You know, there was a piece yesterday by a guy in Germany. He said, I can't raise my kids.
00:24:37 He's a comedian in Germany with 2 million followers. I'm going to have to come out of
00:24:40 this country because it's not safe here anymore. And we don't even hear about where the bishop's
00:24:45 going to talk about that. What does that have to do with human dignity? So just before we go
00:24:51 to the commercial break just recap for this right uh because i think unless your sources of
00:24:58 information are the war room our wednesday show or canon 212 you probably aren't going to be aware
00:25:04 of this but in the last couple of weeks then so we've we've had emerged the photo of leo from the
00:25:10 80s holding up communist literature as a communist agitator but also in the last few weeks some
00:25:17 Photos of him prostrating himself down to the pagan idol, Pachamama, right?
00:25:26 Pachamama.
00:25:27 That's right.
00:25:29 And this is the guy that Trad Inc. would like us to give a little bit more time to
00:25:34 before we were wishing to judgment.
00:25:37 Is that right?
00:25:38 Have I synthesized that correctly, Frank Walker?
00:25:41 Exactly.
00:25:42 And with them, all the bad goes together. 0.95
00:25:44 That event he had just was so gay, and the organizer was a priest who's in this horrible event, this obscene event. 0.94
00:25:52 There's pictures of the organizer, priest, in that event. 1.00
00:25:55 All the gayness, all these bad policies, they all go together. 1.00
00:26:00 What's that expression from social media a few years ago that was pretty common? 1.00
00:26:04 Everything is fake and gay. 0.96
00:26:06 Not the war room, however. 1.00
00:26:09 But this is true.
00:26:11 we speak out again and again and again and all we are all that happens to us is that we are
00:26:16 ridiculed by fake catholic traditionalist catholics who say that we're extremists
00:26:22 and on this issue frank walker we have only ever been correct we've only ever been truthful
00:26:27 and we've only ever been correct right yes and and there's the tradink one of the leaders of
00:26:34 the tradink movement of the pelican paper has been caught it it hasn't been much news about
00:26:39 But just, you know, in shady, openly admitting shady dealings with money and all his charity.
00:26:46 So, you know, Tradink's all about the money.
00:26:49 And sometimes it's about the shady money, too, and the sleazy money.
00:26:53 We'll be digging down on that further after two minutes after this quick commercial break.
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00:32:14 welcome back well continuing this the the narrative then of some of the things that
00:32:22 we're hoovering up and putting together uh over the last month or so is this story a report in
00:32:28 the spanish newspaper el país the spanish national newspaper to a certain extent that the pope had
00:32:37 told the Spanish bishops when he was giving them their audience
00:32:43 just in November of last year that his biggest concern in Spain
00:32:47 right now was that of, in his words, far-right ideology.
00:32:53 He was warning the bishops about the rise of political groups
00:32:57 that, in his words, seek to win the Catholic vote
00:33:01 and instrumentalise the church, which Frank Walker,
00:33:05 That seems somewhat ironic to me, because that, I think, exactly what they're trying to do.
00:33:10 It's exactly what the Vatican is trying to do, is it not?
00:33:13 That's right. That's right.
00:33:15 And you even mentioned this weekend, you're talking to Steve, that he has nothing Catholic in his whole platform.
00:33:22 It's all political what he does.
00:33:25 And, you know, Francis was the same.
00:33:27 Francis always warned against ideologies.
00:33:29 But when Francis was warning against ideologies, it's so ironic, I always think,
00:33:33 because what he really means is he's warning against Catholicism and the political implementation
00:33:40 of Catholicism, not just the faith, but the faith actually lived and acted out in terms of laws and
00:33:48 society. That's what he calls ideology. His own communists, as we see today, on the Feast of Our
00:33:57 Lady of Fatima, ideology, he calls that Catholicism. Francis said that they stole the Catholic flag,
00:34:04 these communists. And so when Leo goes to the Spanish bishops and he warns against ideology,
00:34:09 it's kind of funny because, I mean, they're all liberal ideologues at this point. But it shows you,
00:34:15 you know, because Leo is from Peru. Peru is, you know, Latin America is a Spanish society,
00:34:21 But it's had liberation theology, which is communism called as, you know, pretending to be Catholicism for a long time.
00:34:29 So they've implemented it there for years and years, and it's well installed.
00:34:34 But in Spain, not so much.
00:34:35 So he's coming there, and he wants Spain to be more like Peru and Bolivia.
00:34:41 And so it was a shocker when this came out.
00:34:45 He wants Spain to be more like Latin America.
00:34:48 latin america he wants europe to be more like latin america as did his unlimited predecessor
00:34:54 pope francis of unhappy memory um economic basket cases right that that is that that is pretty
00:35:03 explicitly and i think you put that nicely just let me synthesize what you just said
00:35:07 the strategy now not only of the present pope but the the the immediate predecessor
00:35:13 is to take the traditional Catholic faith and reject it
00:35:18 and reject those who hold that, reject it as ideology,
00:35:24 and take cultural Marxism and say that is the Catholic faith,
00:35:29 that is what you have to believe and subscribe to.
00:35:33 I think you put that pretty well.
00:35:35 It's a bait and switch.
00:35:38 And I think it's spiritual abuse.
00:35:41 It's spiritual abuse because the Catholic Church teaches Catholics, drawing from its interpretation of the Ten Commandments, that if you miss Mass on a single Sunday, you are in a state of sin.
00:35:56 And if you don't go to confession, you will spend eternity in hell. 0.92
00:36:01 If you miss one Mass on Sunday, that is the perennial teaching of the Church, which I'm quite happy to say, that is the truth. 0.90
00:36:11 But what they're doing is they're using that discipline on faithful Catholics to make them subscribe to a philosophy which is of the world and not of Jesus Christ. 0.77
00:36:24 It's really quite satanic what they're doing. 0.93
00:36:27 Yes, I agree.
00:36:28 It's very much and it happened on day one when Francis showed up.
00:36:31 And so he comes to Spain and he's surprisingly strong.
00:36:35 And even though there was not a lot of hubbub about it, the people that did hear it said, wow, I can't believe he said that.
00:36:42 But he warned them not to let these ideologues instrumentalize the faith, like you say.
00:36:51 When he says the faith, he means communism.
00:36:55 And so this happened some months back, I think. 0.90
00:36:59 But in Spain, they've just legalized through fiat half a million Muslims, and they have many, many more there. 0.98
00:37:08 And people are up in arms and furious about it. 0.97
00:37:13 The Pope sees, in El Paz, they say, a prelate says, the Pope sees the extreme right uses believers for its purposes.
00:37:20 And Leo is getting ready to go to Spain, and he's going to visit the Canary Islands.
00:37:27 and he's going to do like a Lampedusa stunt there
00:37:29 where he waves illegal aliens in there.
00:37:31 I mean, how unpopular is that going to be?
00:37:33 That's going to be extremely unpopular,
00:37:34 but he's still fighting hard against it
00:37:36 and the bishops are all joining him.
00:37:38 They're saying, the bishops have said this before,
00:37:40 the same kind of thing.
00:37:41 You're instrumental, you're politicizing things 0.96
00:37:44 when they're Catholic. 1.00
00:37:46 You know, illegal aliens are a Catholic thing 0.74
00:37:49 and you're turning it into politics
00:37:51 because it's so politically unpopular.
00:37:53 But I mean, I can't believe that Leo
00:37:54 is going to be doing that stunt there,
00:37:55 But the Vox Party is what he's worried about.
00:37:58 The Vox Party are the conservative party in Spain, and they're very strong against the church.
00:38:03 In fact, they're an excellent example of how Leo and his bishops should be treated all around the world.
00:38:11 You know, the head of the Vox Party says right out, the Catholic bishops hate your guts.
00:38:16 He says that straight to the voters, and it's true that they do.
00:38:20 What does El Pais write?
00:38:23 it writes that the bishops received a papal directive
00:38:27 to watch the activities of, and I quote, the far right carefully.
00:38:34 That's their job.
00:38:35 That is the bishop's job in Spain.
00:38:37 It is to monitor Vox and report back to the Vatican.
00:38:42 It's not to promote the gospel, right?
00:38:44 It's not to promote the kingdom of Jesus Christ
00:38:47 or the teachings of Jesus Christ.
00:38:49 It's to monitor Spanish patriots who are supporting a party which is openly, part of its platform is open about protecting the Christian roots of Spanish society.
00:39:12 That is what this Vatican, the present Vatican and its immediate predecessor, it's what they cannot abide and what they cannot support.
00:39:21 And Frank Walker, the reason why we come on this show every Wednesday, we say the same thing again and again and again.
00:39:28 It's because Catholics need to be fully aware of this and to be able to use their agency to act in the best interest of preserving their faith for themselves, for their family.
00:39:40 there is nothing more essential for a lay Catholic than that
00:39:45 than the preservation of the true unchanging Catholic faith
00:39:48 and the people that Christ appointed and gave the charism
00:39:53 to safeguard the integrity of the Catholic faith
00:39:57 are now using that office to undermine the Catholic faith 0.80
00:40:02 and under obedience to get Catholics to believe
00:40:07 what is basically the gospel of this world
00:40:09 As I said before, it really is quite satanic in its subtlety.
00:40:14 I mean, it's only subtlety if you are badly, if you're not paying attention.
00:40:19 If this is the most important thing in your life and you're praying for this,
00:40:25 you're praying for the ability to remain true to the Catholic faith.
00:40:30 The wiles of the devil are extremely obvious to see, right?
00:40:35 They're not subtle.
00:40:35 They're only subtle to those who are spiritually asleep.
00:40:41 Let's put it like that.
00:40:43 And again, to come back to the point,
00:40:46 Catholic laity needs to rediscover its sense of agency
00:40:50 in exactly the same way that Republicans have done in the United States.
00:40:54 They rediscover their sense of agency
00:40:56 and they've taken control back over their party.
00:41:00 We need to do the same in the Catholic Church 0.99
00:41:03 and bring the Catholic Church out of the hands of the hireling shepherds 0.98
00:41:08 that are driving it into the ground to set it back on its true path. 0.85
00:41:12 And as you said, when we were discussing this very subject a couple of episodes ago,
00:41:17 Frank Walker, you said it is true that the traditional Catholic, of course,
00:41:23 view is as of the church as a hierarchy with a laity in its place
00:41:28 and bishops and cardinals and popes
00:41:30 appointed in a hierarchical order
00:41:33 in order to preserve that.
00:41:35 But that is not what we have at the moment
00:41:37 because the church has been hijacked 0.92
00:41:39 by a cabal of highling shepherds.
00:41:44 So the way around that is long-term.
00:41:49 I mean, I don't know what the long-term solution is.
00:41:51 You're absolutely correct
00:41:52 that the long-term solution will be
00:41:54 for the Catholic lady to obey faithful Catholic bishops.
00:41:58 But we're not there, and we have to get there, right? 0.92
00:42:01 Right. 0.97
00:42:02 We have to have sort of a re-revolution and take back our church from people who aren't 1.00
00:42:07 Catholic. 0.99
00:42:07 If you're not a faithful Catholic, you really have no right to any position in the clergy.
00:42:13 And so we're not obligated to obey people who are enemies of Christ and the teaching
00:42:19 of all the previous popes.
00:42:20 Like, Pius XII, as a recent pope, he excommunicated people like Leo and all of the freaks at this
00:42:27 event in Rome. You know, it's just amazing. And the Vox Party in Europe is a great example of
00:42:33 saying, we're representing Catholic teaching. We're representing the historical Christian
00:42:39 voice in the country. And you can see here that the bishops are not. And Trump has done that too.
00:42:46 You can see here that Leo is not representing what's actual Catholic teaching over peace.
00:42:52 and with this his pacifism is not peace and it's not catholic teaching and the and these uh these
00:42:58 bishops have done the same to the vox party here they say well you're not catholic you're anti-catholic
00:43:03 they call the conservatives anti-catholic fascists just like leo and all the bishops called trump
00:43:10 anti-catholic they've been putting up big uh you know um tv sets in the catholic masses in miami
00:43:17 and all around the country to have like a prayer against anti-Catholic Trump.
00:43:21 But the confrontation is important because every instance of defending the actual true faith,
00:43:27 which people know in their hearts, the true faith against these bishops and pointing them
00:43:31 out for where they are, like they have with this Vox, like they do their bishops, they target them
00:43:36 directly. You're just trying to cover up your pedophilia and you're just trying to get government 0.52
00:43:40 money. That's what they say all the time to the Spanish business. Leo is coming there and he's 0.54
00:43:44 going to pull an extremely unpopular stunt in that country that's only going to please
00:43:48 globalists.
00:43:49 So politically, it's just a, you know, it's nothing.
00:43:52 It's just a dead fish.
00:43:54 It's done.
00:43:55 You need people to actually fight for the church in the name of conservative politics.
00:44:01 Frank, they're highly shepherds, and they have already had their reward. 1.00
00:44:05 um the the thing the solution forward is to awaken catholics out of their sense of slumber 1.00
00:44:13 and so that as we do as you do canon 212 every day as we do on the womb awaken catholics out 0.89
00:44:20 of their sense of complacency rediscover their sense of agency um and put the church back on
00:44:28 the right path because christendom western civilization depends on it frank we've got
00:44:36 some good news today i think going back to the gospels a small town mentioned in in the gospels
00:44:43 where our blessed lord fulfilled a number of miracles has been rediscovered after 2000 years
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00:47:28 So Frank Walker, closing five minutes of the show.
00:47:31 So Bethsaida mentioned many times in the Gospels, if I'm not mistaken,
00:47:39 it's where the feeding of the 5,000 was reputed to have taken place.
00:47:45 Again, if I'm not mistaken, after the resurrection,
00:47:50 the feeding of the 5,000 is the only miracle in the New Testament
00:47:57 to be accounted, to be mentioned, and to be narrated in all four Gospels,
00:48:04 the three synoptics and John, the feeding of the 5,000.
00:48:07 Bethsaida, tell me what has been discovered on the north shore of the Sea of Galilee.
00:48:14 Well, I think it was in some area of brush that's nearby.
00:48:19 But they found an old Byzantine-era church, and underneath that a house.
00:48:24 And they're thinking that that could be the house of Peter because this was the town of Peter, Andrew, and Philip.
00:48:31 And so that's a big deal to find the first pope's actual house in the town where they had, where Jesus fed the 5,000 and where Jesus healed a blind man and where he walked on water nearby.
00:48:48 So it was, you know, and Jews yelled at the town of Bethsaida.
00:48:52 He said, woe to you if all the works performed and you were performed in other places, they would have put on sackcloth and ashes.
00:49:00 But you didn't, you know, you didn't repent and you should repent.
00:49:03 These are all the biblical references to this.
00:49:05 So if you've actually found a church that was over the house of Peter, that's a big deal.
00:49:11 They're not making it like it's definite.
00:49:12 They're saying that, but it's about as compelling as it gets in this talk that they gave in Washington, T.C.
00:49:17 I you know I think it's a very hopeful story because you know if we can find a house of 0.87
00:49:24 Peter again then maybe we can actually get a Catholic Pope again tell me I don't mean to be
00:49:31 cynical Frank Walker but why is this suddenly coming to note right now at this moment in time
00:49:38 seems a bit like an ace that's been up his sleeve and and somebody in Israel has thought now's a
00:49:44 great time to play this card am i being cynical i don't know and you you know you you you have a
00:49:50 you're insightful so if you think that that might be the case i don't know there were three towns
00:49:55 different towns that were vying for the place that it was that was actual ruin but now they
00:50:01 actually feel like they've discovered it i don't know do you see another other evidence than that
00:50:05 they said that they're now it's down to just two but they think this is like the key evidence but
00:50:09 But in the piece, it doesn't really say what exactly it was about it.
00:50:15 I need to brush up on the gospel, because I always thought St. Peter was from Capernaum.
00:50:22 And I've obviously got something in my head.
00:50:26 I need to go back and do a reference on that.
00:50:28 I thought Capernaum was where Christ, that was the headquarters of Christ's missionary work in and around Galilee.
00:50:37 well okay well i think you might be right here it says we have on the first century house wall
00:50:43 under the apps it doesn't have a plaque that says peter slept slept here but from perspective
00:50:48 archaeology it doesn't get much better than that no it may be right maybe they don't know
00:50:54 uh but i i find i find i don't want to be cynical but i found the the dropping of this particular
00:51:02 because of course it's going to get a lot of americans very interested right now wanting
00:51:07 pilgrimages to go over to the Holy Land. But I don't mean to be cynical. Perhaps it's totally
00:51:13 innocent. And it's the age of the Leo, so we have to hear about the first pope a lot.
00:51:19 That kind of thing, I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah, well, I always like to, yeah, of course.
00:51:25 I do insist, however, that unlike the mainstream media narrative, we don't consider, not on the
00:51:32 war room leo as being the first american pope um because i think his formation is totally latin
00:51:39 american folks that is it's amazing how quickly an hour goes that is all we have time for i do
00:51:45 want to give a shout out i mentioned at the beginning of the show i do want to give a shout
00:51:50 out to canon 212 i i check that website every day uh so i get a feeling for myself that i'm up to
00:51:59 date with all the
00:52:01 developments, especially in the Catholic faith,
00:52:03 especially trad-Catholic issues
00:52:05 that mean so much
00:52:07 to us. And Frank, I know you
00:52:08 update that site
00:52:10 24-7. It's
00:52:13 a full-time plus job for you.
00:52:15 Very quickly, where do people go for
00:52:17 Canon 212 and for Stumbling Block?
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00:52:23 is my daily update. That's also at Rumble
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00:52:27 Beautiful. Thanks very much
00:52:29 frank uh for staying with us for this whole hour folks steve will be back in the chair 10 a.m
00:52:34 tomorrow morning my thanks my very great thanks to spencer holding the fort a real america's voice
00:52:40 in denver and i would take the moment now to wish you god bless and a great evening this year marks
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