WarRoom Battleground EP 101： CPAC Texas; A Few Bad Men： A Story Of The Marines In Afghanistan; WAPO Comes After Clermont Institute; Did The Machines Cheat Tina Peters
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On this episode of Live From the Middle East, we are joined by U.S. Ambassador to Israel, Umm Malki Schlapp, who talks about his time in the Trump administration and his trip to the middle east.
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this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
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people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the authoritarians
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get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just like in georgia
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it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations
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is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is the fight
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all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your host
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stephen k bannon it's monday the 25th of july year of our lord 2022 you're in war room battleground
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thank you very much for joining us for live i want to go to uh matt schlapp matt schlapp's the
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head of the american conservative union that puts on cpac just back from israel matt before we talk
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about cpac dallas uh give me a i think one of the most powerful things cpac's done over the last
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couple of years and we were honored i think to be in your first one in japan i think it was in 2017
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over christmas or right before you've really taken cpac out throughout the world it's pretty amazing
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talk to me about cpac israel yeah it was pretty amazing we've been talking about it for a long
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time for since before the uh chinese corona and uh and we hit the ground uh in jerusalem uh we spent
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a full week with an american delegation and went to tel aviv 2500 israelis in a country that doesn't
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tend to really do rallies around their politics i'm told that it's a bigger crowd than netanyahu
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would get uh at the height of his popularity and as you know he's trying to wage a comeback
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in november and that important race in israel and you know we brought a couple of american ambassadors
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who were part of the abraham accords and we brought matt whitaker and rick grinnell and others who worked
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in the trump administration and it was just a buffo uh night it was a great event and i cannot tell you
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how many uh people we ran into who were in shock that we actually pulled it off and we pulled it off
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with some great partners on the ground and for me steve it's always really cool you know this
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i remember walking behind you uh in tokyo at that first uh cpac on the ground in japan and you know
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there's nothing like an american hitting the ground in a strong allied country the outpouring of love
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and affection you didn't even get that many tough questions from reporters and we had a similar
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experience in israel and these kids would come up to me on the street we had one thing we captured in
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video they were kids who lost their parents or their brothers or sisters to terrorism and they
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came up to me we spoke with a bullhorn and you know just uh uh told them we're we're we're in
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solidarity with them in this fight against radical islamic terror so it's a pretty special trip
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talk to me about given president trump's you know moving the embassy the abraham accords his focus the
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first trip we took was obviously going to riad first jerusalem second rome third what is your sense
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uh from the israelis right now of of what's their sense of of the middle east we're gonna have a
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major galvin on here in a second but his book a few bad men about this horrific incident in afghanistan
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back during the war but what is since we're not actively engaged in afghanistan we're somewhat in
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in iraq but it's a whole different you know it's all it's a whole different not just mindset with this
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regime with the bidens but it's just a different feels like things are very different over the
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middle east right now they're talking about iran on the on the final stages of a nuclear weapon
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what's your sense from the israelis of what that what do they feel about american leadership right
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now yeah look there was a hit and run in israel joe biden had to go to israel because he wanted
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to go to saudi arabia to beg for oil an american president going to any regime and begging for fossil
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fuels we want to allow our people to drill for fossil fuels here is really has the israeli people in a
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state of shock um when donald trump went to the region you remember that famous sword dance in
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saudi arabia you were there and you know the the point wasn't wasn't wasn't that everything the
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saudis do is right but there was a respect for the trump administration for donald trump which they do
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not have for joe biden even the fist bumps seem to have gotten joe biden he caught a flu and you know
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and and he goes to israel he does a few things that were more obligatory in nature and from my
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conversations with people on the on in the know on the ground there is people left very worried that
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the american president is just out to lunch they just didn't feel like he was very engaged and with
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it and that's quite a statement because joe biden actually has really never been too with it
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yeah no talk to us about you're you've done these regionals i know you're going to go back to the
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since uh the ccp virus is abated we're going to go back to the regular cpacs in washington dc starting in
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23 um but talk to me about cpac dallas cpac texas uh is this is this now where texas gets to compete
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with what happened in florida the one in florida is so intense and so big talk to us about what's
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coming up august 4th through 7th because we want everybody want all the war room posse in the region
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to show up for this tell talk to us about it you got to go and if you use code word war room
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and go to our website at conservative.org uh you're going to get invited to a special uh event
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with uh the host of war room steve bannon who's going to be one of our featured speakers at the
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cattleman's ball and look we went to florida the first year because remember steve they blamed us
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for spreading coronavirus they spread me personally because we had one victim uh who uh turned out to
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be just fine but they blamed us for an international spread and then they canceled us the next year they
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didn't want us to even have cpac in dc they said we would kill people so we said not on our watch i
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mean not since uh if ronald reagan can come 13 times to cpac and we've been through wars and we've
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been through recessions we can have cpac so we had to go to florida we had a great event even though
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the mayor there was pretty rough in orlando and then we decided look there's two mega red states that
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are driving the economy and driving politics and it's florida and texas that's where the center of
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gravity is it's no longer washington dc it's moved south and really there's almost like a red capital
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and a blue capital you can name your pick for these big blue broken bankrupt blue cities uh that
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that is the kind of the center of gravity for the left but for us you know the only big cities that
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are functioning in this country are in red states and so you know people on our side have to start to
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ask themselves are they going to continue to grovel at the feet of these big blue city mayors who
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literally want to shut them down on a moment's notice and that's what we fear doing anything in
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a blue state tell me about for our our audience or memory go to concert i think it's conservative.org
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and you put in the promo code war room you can invite to a special event we want everybody in
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the texas in the dallas area in north texas and the surrounding areas to come it's going to be very
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special we're in there be there for the couple days and we're going to be broadcasting doing special
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events we want everybody in the posse to show up you've got victor orban which i think is blockbuster
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you did already did a cpac hungry that they're still they're still they're still shaking about
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in europe you're bringing orban to texas which is going to be amazing who else is going to be there
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matt oh yeah it's a who's who obviously president trump will be uh our final speaker we got sean
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hannity coming who hasn't been at cpac for a number of years we got i think everyone's favorite
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member of congress jim jordan uh is going to be there with us at ted cruz this new myra flores
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we're going to have a lot of these candidates jd vance a lot of these republican candidates are
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going to help us take back uh the majority so uh you don't want to miss it go onto the website get
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your tickets but more than anything else send the message to the national media that there is a
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conservative uprising an american uprising going on across this country i think cpac is the beginning
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of the big red wave it's in august we're just months away from that big election in november if
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we don't have a big win in november all the socialism just gets bigger and nancy pelosi feels emboldened
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so let's push back and let's prevent it from happening this is the first step of two
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get back these majorities and then take back that white house
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i think that the evening that you close president trump's speech i think is 90 and a wake up to the
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election day i think this sunday's 100 and i think when trump speaks on the 7th
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it's 90 and a wake up so that's how intense this is cpac would be the springboard matt your social
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media how do people get the book it's still a must read uh how do people get the book and how do
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people track you on social media thank you steve they can uh unfortunately all i ever remember is
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my twitter account which is at m schlapp uh and they can go to desecrators.com to get all my other
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handles uh for all the other platforms although i spend most of my time on twitter because i seem to
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annoy people the most you can go to the desecrators.com you you you you you come in a little
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hot on twitter your twitter account's one to follow you come in a little steve and i'm a little hot
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just a tad just a just a tad hot on twitter not quite a little just a tad hot my wife says i should
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say a hail mary before i send every tweet and i have to say i haven't always followed that advice
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well you should matt thank you so much look forward to having you back on show one everybody
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go to conservative.org put in promo code worm i need you everybody to show up at cpac cpac texas
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matt thank you so much for joining us thanks for joining us in uh dallas steve it's just around the
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corner really excited thank you sir uh i'm gonna bring in major fred galvin for this amazing book i
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want to bring in my co-host for this hour uh brian kennedy brian thank you so much for joining us i
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couldn't think of a better guy to ride shotgun with me on this i've got here very specially because
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the new york times i i think in their mind they were going after claremont yesterday in the sunday
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paper but uh it's an extraordinary article i want to get into more detail later but thank you so much
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for joining us here uh brian kennedy from american strategy group one of the smartest guys around we've
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got i had to have here for galvin and then later we're going to have this tina peter situation out in
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colorado to really get down to about this what's happening with the machines and kennedy you're
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you're the smartest guy about this so sir thank you so much for uh so honored to join us in the day
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we're going to deconstruct the new york times and claremont institute sir well thank you steve and
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and uh i just got to tell you with all due respect to the co-host last week there's only one steve
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bannon and i'm so glad you're back i had people calling me from all over the country ready to chopper in
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to wherever you were to rescue you so it's just great to see you back in the war room
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thank you thank you thank you so much thank you so much and that is the guys did a great job but it's
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of course we add our own special spin and this is why i got kennedy to be my co-host today to shout
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that out okay uh uh i want to bring in major fred galvin united states marine corps retired uh major
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galvin i was able to start for the war in posse today and and i gotta tell you i'll be honest
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when i first got this book and people had told me about it and i saw zero hedge and i and i got a
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copy and went through it or before i got it i said is this a work of fiction is this like a hollywood
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you know someone's going to be in a major film as a work of fiction said no all this happened
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and i said how did i not know that given we stay pretty close to this and i asked a bunch of people
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and they go wow we didn't hear about that this is an amazing story the book is a a few bad men
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it's an extraordinary work about the way the system works it's got the obviously the courage
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and the valor of our troops but it is a kafka-esque nightmare i mean your hands will break out in a
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sweat when you see what goes on so just take us back walk through what happened here and and then i
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want to get into why it was suppressed but but just tell us who you are what was this unit your deployment
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to afghanistan what happened and just walks and i i don't want to give the outcome right the decent
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because i want people to buy the book and actually read it major galvin yes steve thank you and uh i
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hear you've got questions i know you want answers and you and your listeners can handle the truth
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so the reason i wrote the book on a few bad men uh it is a non-fiction story uh unlike a few good
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men this is something that you don't want it to be true as you had described this is not just about
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the combat action that our marine commandos in the very first marine special operations task force
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deployed into afghanistan and conducted we were blown up shot at uh then they started the taliban
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launching an information warfare campaign against us that took uh the role immediately 20 minutes after
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the ambush and the bbc um saying that we killed women and children we expected all of that we expected
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the enemy to fight us in a complex ambush with sniper fire creating obstacles that was what we
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rehearsed and we conducted a very violent counter-attack and killed the enemy we also expected
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them to spin the truth that's what terrorists do what we did not expect is as you had described in
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your prior session that the marine corps we knew realized they did not ever want to have an elite
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an elite but we did not expect them to dogpile us with 45 criminal investigators four prosecuting
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attorneys that came in and they had a written operation order this was written down that they would
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go to both objectives the one in afghanistan and interview the afghans as well as where we were
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located where when they kicked us out of country and put us in a q8 that was what they were going to do
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instead of doing what they said in their order they went entirely to kuwait and interrogated dogpiled
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all of us for two months and then they got on the scene in afghanistan two months after the crime scene
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and took the afghan's word at face value so at that point uh i was relieved of command i've sent home
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there was a total of seven of us who were falsely accused of mass murder they said we killed 19 and
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wounded 50 this was the largest number of alleged afghan civilians killed throughout the entire war
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in afghanistan by machine gun fire and i was the commanding officer of this marine special operations
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task force so the convening authority at that time was then lieutenant general jim mattis who was in
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charge of all the marines in the middle east uh he had all the sworn statements of the 30 of us who
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were on the patrol he had my polygraph uh that stated that i didn't see any civilians killed we didn't fire
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any civilians so all this did was continue to antagonize general mattis as a convening authority
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to use even further extreme sanctions against us to include a gag order they called it a protection order
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steve so this was basically a shut us up and not just myself and they eventually named myself and one
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other marine officer is the two co-defendants in the trial but uh they even said the two of us if we said
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anything or our defense attorney said anything that they would be disbarred and we were we would be
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punished so this is what happens in places like tehran when they want to uh use censure which is not
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i mean thank god we have a first amendment that applies to all americans but this type of
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information warfare is allowed against our enemies when it's approved we can do this type of information
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operations but we are it's prohibited to do against american military personnel by our by our own military
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personnel it's prohibited strictly forbidden to be used against the people of the united states but then
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when we went into this courtroom go ahead see no no okay i just i want to make sure we set the stage here
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properly you you um this is not a bunch of reservists or national guards you guys were kind of hand
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selected the marines have this history of marine raiders and and marine force recon that are kind of the
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elite inside the marine corps and the marine corps has always had this mentality we don't have a special we don't
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have green berets we don't have special operators we don't have navy seals because every million every
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marine is elite they start a special operations group under you these are hand-picked uh operators
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that know what they're doing correct i mean they're they're they're they didn't pick any anybody that
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just came off the uh the bus out of uh out of paris island that's correct these are experienced warriors
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these weren't just the best of the best from force recon these were marines who since the war had
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started in 2001 had been deploying in combat in force reconnaissance units to iraq and to afghanistan
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i had previously done a tour as a force recon platoon commander across the pacific prior to the war
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starting i was an instructor at the marine corps version of top gun at the time that when we entered
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this ambush i was just a few months shy of my 19th year in the marine corps and the majority of those who
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were in in that ambush that we were in were the most experienced not just in our in our unit but
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from across the marine corps we did hand select and that's similar to what the common on the marine
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corps back in 1944 with a stroke of a pen who disbanded the marine raiders said it's not in the best
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interest of the marine corps having elite within an elite he said hand-picked units are bad for morale
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and they disbanded the marines that went back in the marine raiders they sent back to the marine
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infantry to go on and fight in okinawa but in our case you also saw this data point from what i just
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described in world war ii it was repeated in 1987 when they formed the u.s special operations command
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we were the only just as you had described steve we were the only service in the marine corps that did
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not provide forces to the special operations command where all the u.s army rangers green berets navy seals
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air force special operations they all assembled into one unit marine corps said we'll well abstain
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we are an elite with an elite donald rumsfeld on his second tour is a secretary of defense in 2001
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right after we were attacked ordered all the services to increase the capacity of special operations forces
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they all did except for the marine corps marine corps tried to appease it by sending a few
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officers down to the special operations command uh rumsfeld got further angered then the marine
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corps started to slow roll it with an official proof of concept for two years to even see if we could
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compete with the green berets and seals that dragged on for three years then guess what uh the
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pentagon was wrong when they thought bush 43 would not get re-elected they thought he'd be like his
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father one term president he got re-elected rumsfeld was kept on as the secretary of defense and ordered
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the marine corps to activate a component within the marine within the u.s special operations command
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so that let's just call it what it is steve it was basically an arranged marriage by the godfather
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rumsfeld himself between the marine corps and special operations command uh that was actually on the 24th
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of february 2006 that was officiated by rumsfeld who was there at the activation ceremony and we were
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basically the love child we were the very first special operations task force to be selected
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trained formed deployed and engage in combat against the enemy in afghanistan and uh and what's but what's
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what's bizarre logically you would have gone to iraq because we're doing the surge at the time and this
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unit was absolutely perfect for what the surge was doing but they divert you and send you to
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afghanistan once in afghanistan they've got the coin you know this is a portray us this thing of coin
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this counterinsurgency which is you know it's winning hearts and minds and you've got commanders there
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and i'm not criticizing them but they're they they're not looking for guys to engage in in combat right
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they're looking for essentially people that are essentially diplomats with rifles is that the way
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to say it yes and to even show another data point before we go that they're in afghanistan the marine
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corps's intention was what they actually did they they had us do an entire pre-deployment uh workup
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for six months before we deployed with the regular conventional marine corps and under the leadership of
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colonel sturdeman the marine expedition unit commander and redeployed on the uss baton on
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the ships that's a that was their goal to keep us again under the marine corps wing don't let us slip
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out like the navy seals that eventually broke loose and got off the ships uh the marine corps wanted us
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working for the conventional forces and as as you well know the defense military industrial complex
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all these generals the no the no general left behind program involves generals like you've all seen
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general mattis uh general uh austin where they all go austin came from raytheon mattis went to general
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dynamics so they all want to appease and they they realized like i better do what the secretary of
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defense says to some degree and that's why the general brown in charge of the special operations
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command did pull us off those ships and he sent us into afghanistan right there in the torpor mountains
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at the base of the mountains uh right of afghan pakistan water and that's where we uh conducted
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30 patrols and on the 30th patrol uh our mission steve was to conduct aggressive combat operations
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across regional command east and that's exactly what i set out to do with our marine special operators
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uh and on this mission on the 4th of march we were blown up and then we received fire from both
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sides of the road it was nine o'clock in the morning well hang on hang on i just want to make sure i just
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want to make sure people understand the afghans these guys been fighting this war a long time the
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taliban this was a comp what would you call a complex ambush ieds crossfire uh defense in depth i mean
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they had had this plot do you think they had a leak on intelligence and know that you guys were coming
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to set the ambush yes you're uh teasing the book there steve and i appreciate that so we had made
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for coordination earlier that morning with the an army unit right assigned immediately on the afghan
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pakistan border this was an army military police unit and they were out there in their vehicles doing
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rehearsals and some people think well that's good that's what you're supposed to do before you go out
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on patrol but they were doing it in broad daylight in the valley right at the base of these mountains
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surrounding there in the khyber pass which in all honesty is was stupid to do it in broad daylight
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telegraphing that you're about ready to go on patrols their immediate action drills consisted of
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when they'd say contact right they announced what the drill was to the enemy that's guess what is up in
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those mountains observers uh observing the military camp uh so they'd see them do these drills and the army
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soldiers would duck down inside the turret and yell run drive drive so they were basically rehearsing
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that if they got attacked they would duck and run that patrol was heading out that morning uh we headed
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out before them and we went further south up into the torbora mountains to do a visual amount of
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reconnaissance of routes that we could later conduct uh reconnaissance patrols in the in the mountains where we
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were assigned to conduct our patrols uh eventually the the army did take a additional time to leave the
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base and that allowed us to finish our reconnaissance of the mountains and then we entered the road
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heading into this village this first village on the afghan side of the uh the border there the afghan
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and pakistan border let's have your audience consider uh this is basically uh can be compared
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to an amazon fulfillment center so at that time we could not go into pakistan so they would get foreign
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fighters and they'd fully radicalize them in pakistan and then they'd move them across the border because
00:24:50.440
we americans just paid for this the first paved road in afghanistan so they they weren't coming across
00:24:55.500
the mountains where we were told to conduct reconnaissance they just bribed the the border guard
00:25:00.120
they came right across and then they'd end up at this basic logistics note think amazon fulfillment
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like i said so they would link up there with their handlers and the taliban would protect that with
00:25:11.240
suicide bombers and on that morning we knew we had the information that there was four suicide bombers
00:25:17.440
we even knew where they were located so but this uh counterinsurgency strategy that both petraeus and
00:25:25.260
general mattis both authored and came out in a joint doctrine that was implemented in late 2006 in october
00:25:32.440
2006 when we fell under the nato rules of engagement and uh so instead of using information to go and
00:25:38.480
target the enemy like we had done for years in combat operations in iraq no now we had to go actually
00:25:44.260
conduct a tribal leader engagement sit down have chai discuss this over hopefully this taliban controlled
00:25:51.880
village would give us some intelligence but uh that was it's kind of ridiculous uh but that is what
00:25:57.780
these leaders they didn't ever want to go and win the war they just all they wanted to do is go
00:26:03.500
fight the war spend money spend lives but then all these weapon systems that are sold by the military
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industrial complex to the military well those generals who are on those boards make lavish
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salaries get flown in on the lear jet right into reagan national international airport and and they
00:26:23.580
got their return on investment let's keep this war going forever we had won it up until 2005 now they
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okay welcome back when you read this book by major galvin just out from adam bellow and the team
00:30:13.500
at post hill press a few bad men um you are haunted by the question how does this country find men like
00:30:22.280
this it is unbelievable the the the the valor the courage but also the strength of character to go
00:30:28.780
through this kafka-esque nightmare where you know what you did was right you know what you did
00:30:34.380
was for the good of your country for the good of your men for the good of your unit for the good of the
00:30:39.960
pride of one of the most famous uh fighting um uh groups in world history the united states marine corps
00:30:47.800
uh and you just see what's going on and i don't want to i don't want to give that part away
00:30:51.720
uh this is a book and when i say you must read it particularly everybody that's interested in national
00:30:57.100
security affairs or interested in the military and everybody's very concerned the america first
00:31:01.260
part of our audience is very concerned about these constant deployments look
00:31:04.700
major i gotta bring you in here because my daughter was 101st airborne uh and deployed to
00:31:09.780
iraq and i gotta tell you that when she was gone you you you sit there and you understand you pray
00:31:15.620
every night you just understand it is in god's hands you absolutely have particularly a control
00:31:20.200
freak like me you have absolutely no control whatsoever but then you read what happened to you
00:31:25.800
and i gotta sit there i just sat there and go my god for the grace of god this does not happen to
00:31:30.520
maureen or her unit or something like this because it's absolutely it's almost like a hitchcock thriller
00:31:36.280
that's why i don't want to give away the end the twist and turns of this thing are amazing the
00:31:40.880
question i have for you do you feel that your country or parts of the defense department stole
00:31:48.660
a big number of years of your life because i don't know how you went through this and and and
00:31:53.280
finally to be well i don't want to say what happened i'm not going to say what happened but
00:31:56.900
do you think that you got that you had uh that you had part of your life stolen
00:32:00.860
yes so the seven of us who were falsely accused it did destroy portions of our lives the the health
00:32:09.760
we had a the co-defendant that went went on trial with me ended up getting cancer uh he survived but
00:32:17.020
had to have severe surgery radiation his senior enlisted was a complete physical stud ended up
00:32:23.700
uh getting diabetes and nearly passing from that but the divorce the financial ruin uh this is
00:32:32.540
something that is i wish was never something that could happen even to our worst enemies uh when you
00:32:39.840
have your own government put a gag war on you and use this information warfare to paint a picture that
00:32:46.820
you murdered mass murdered civilians uh because they kept moving i don't want to give everything out
00:32:53.800
uh in the book but they continued to move the media out of the courtroom during all not just defense
00:33:00.880
witnesses with exculpatory evidence but uh the character witnesses so all the media heard was this
00:33:08.020
one-sided false narrative that we mass murdered these individuals now the jury heard everything
00:33:13.460
and they acquitted us but what happened in the press for seven more years that i continued to serve
00:33:18.900
and you can you made a nice statement about us that uh you know we were this elite band of warriors but
00:33:24.740
some people probably question our judgment because the request that myself and the rest of us was to go
00:33:29.940
right back overseas and fight and that's what we did uh and i continued to serve for seven more years
00:33:35.700
until i hit service limitations but then they continued to attack us even the day i retired
00:33:41.820
so the press just okay um i'm gonna have it's i'm gonna have you back on later in the week to go
00:33:50.480
through it more do you have any media or speaking engagements that people can can know of the book
00:33:55.480
is a few bad men you can get on amazon right now in fact if you order it'll be there the next day
00:34:00.060
a few bad men if you love the military uh and particularly if you're america first because we cannot
00:34:06.060
allow this to ever happen again what what happened to these uh these heroes uh major are there any book
00:34:13.060
signings or is there any do you have a book tour coming up what is going on with the rolling the book out
00:34:17.400
yes we have a few uh when i attended the university of texas at dallas i'll have a upcoming uh
00:34:25.060
one to the uh nba students and uh the alumni there at dallas on the 8th of october uh we also have
00:34:33.500
one at the marine memorial hotel on the 13th of october and then we have uh two of them in
00:34:39.600
oceanside california just south of camp penulton where i've stationed for 12 years and that will be
00:34:44.920
at the barnes and noble and oceanside as well as the brown theater on september 11th 2022
00:34:50.960
i'm talking to my i'm talking to my producer i think we got to figure out how to get you to cpac
00:34:55.360
and come and join us to cpac because you need to do a book signing there uh major galvin what is also
00:35:00.140
your social media how do people how do people how do people find uh find you on social media
00:35:04.780
on twitter and facebook they can find it at fc galvin i'm also on linkedin fred galvin and they
00:35:12.880
can look at the website at uh www commandoshow.com we're going to have uh major galvin on a subject
00:35:21.620
of his schedule later in the week because i want to talk about the senior command and the rot
00:35:24.900
that's at the pentagon right now uh which comes through in this book a few bad men by major fred
00:35:30.900
galvin united states marine court retired major thank you very much for joining us honored thank you very
00:35:36.380
much sir pleasure thank you sir okay i want to bring in brian kennedy brian you're the you're
00:35:43.380
the founding chairman or the the one of the founders of the committee on the present danger china
00:35:47.400
it's mind-boggling how this happened but since i'm crammed for time uh tell me about the claremont
00:35:53.440
institute the great claremont issues has been so much of the intellectual thought leader and really
00:35:57.700
you've been one of the great guiding lights there the new york times went after it hard over the
00:36:02.900
weekend but i when i read it i called you i said brother this is like a paid advertisement tell me
00:36:07.680
tell me about the tell me about the claremont institute in the new york times coming after you
00:36:11.760
guys hard yeah well it was actually the washington post just a slight correction there oh it was the
00:36:18.180
post was that the post okay fine yeah yeah mark fisher and isaac uh stanley becker and these are two
00:36:24.680
two you know wow left-wing journalists who hate trump they hate the trump movement they don't like
00:36:32.260
the idea of conservative intellectuals fighting back against uh you know all the political forces
00:36:40.020
and all the establishment it's one of the reasons they're going after you so hard steve it's not just
00:36:45.300
that it that you helped win the election in 2016 you continue to fight and the the media simply despises
00:36:53.820
that as does the left in this piece in the washington post to go after the claremont institute
00:36:59.420
which was really at the forefront of making the argument that president trump's victory was
00:37:06.420
important and it was important because politically he was realigning the country behind the principles
00:37:14.220
of the american founding limited constitutional government and the idea that america is a good
00:37:20.520
country that's one of the things the media really despises about both president trump and the claremont
00:37:28.240
institute in this article and so in it they go after our colleague who's been on the war room many
00:37:34.620
times john eastman and john of course as we know had come up with the strategy for dealing with
00:37:40.320
the theft of the election on january 6th and so they're they're trying to use the piece to discredit
00:37:46.660
john to discredit president trump to discredit the claremont institute but they simply it simply
00:37:52.980
doesn't work in a way because the claremont institute stands for american freedom american liberty
00:38:00.100
and a defense of that and the one thing i think they don't like about the claremont institute the most
00:38:05.720
is that when you talk about conservatives i know cpac is coming up but when you talk about conservatism
00:38:13.300
what are we conserving these days well at claremont they're they're conserving if anything the american
00:38:20.440
revolution and the principles of the american revolution and the principles of american liberty
00:38:26.020
and those are the things that are just so powerful so much of conservatism today is just about
00:38:32.580
you know working the washington process and proposing these laws and that laws and cutting taxes and
00:38:40.060
it's been dubbed conservatism inc the thing about claremont it really was a revolutionary and is a
00:38:46.440
revolutionary organization and that's one of the reasons that so many claremont folks went into
00:38:52.020
the trump administration with the ambition of dismantling the administrative state that you
00:38:57.820
yourself have talked about now i tell you what the what you can tell the anger of the post of the
00:39:05.720
writers is how could intellectuals be attracted to donald trump and what he stands for i mean because
00:39:11.980
they've always made trump is just this barbarian right how could they have these really smart guys
00:39:16.820
so they have to be corrupt they have to be on the payroll there has to be something twisted about them
00:39:22.020
but that's what's amazing hang over a second brian i want to i want to do this with you here because
00:39:25.940
you've been so great and as an intellectual leader about stop the steal and by the way the new york
00:39:30.820
times i got that one right the new york times uh over the weekend had the the new york times
00:39:35.740
magazine was stop the steal right on the cover with a beautiful beautiful black and white photography
00:39:40.580
it's all throughout there's a cover story uh you've got tina peters you got everybody
00:39:44.840
in fact tina peters is profile mastriana tina peters a big part of this story i want to bring
00:39:49.980
in now jeff o'donnell and deraza smith so jeff explain to our audience take like five minutes
00:39:56.100
and make the best case because it's kind of confusing you put up any chart you want i think
00:39:59.900
memphis has got your stuff make a case here so people can understand why tina just didn't get
00:40:06.420
beaten because they had somebody that faked it like that she was maga but she wasn't and and why
00:40:12.720
do you say it's the machine so make the case make the case for tina peters uh thank you thank you very
00:40:19.200
much uh in looking at the data that came out of the primary and i want to point out that it took us
00:40:24.820
months to figure out what data came out of the uh the originally of the 2020 election and what it meant
00:40:30.700
and now we're basically able to see that it's real time now in the primaries and from now on
00:40:35.040
uh the the data that we had to work with which is largely the data that was in the election night
00:40:39.520
reporting it it shows a very unnatural pattern of voting and what i mean by that is that if you look
00:40:46.680
at the uh the election by what was reported on election night the the rate the gap between the
00:40:52.800
the uh candidates in other words the number of votes between candidate one and candidate two between
00:40:57.060
uh anderson and tina peters for instance in her race it was fixed uh within the first couple of
00:41:03.860
updates during the night and then remained remarkably the same the rest of the night uh these are mail-in
00:41:09.620
votes they should be arriving fairly randomly when they're brought in uh and and not the only race
00:41:15.460
other races uh in the state show that that same thing there's a good example uh you can see that the
00:41:21.160
the difference between the blue and the red line the blue is uh anderson and uh the red is tina peters
00:41:27.000
uh the the number of vote difference between them was established within the first two or three
00:41:32.540
updates and it maintained in lockstep uh the rest of the way and the fact that that happens isn't isn't
00:41:38.660
natural and it was the first thing that uh that i spotted that led me to believe that there was there
00:41:43.600
was something wrong especially since it happened in many races now if you could bring up the uh the
00:41:49.620
lauren bobert race i'll show you what is a more natural something that we look for
00:41:54.040
uh you'll see when that comes up that uh in that race you see a more uh you know you see the blue
00:42:02.080
which is lauren bobert and the the red which was uh her uh the other candidate uh it sort of increases
00:42:08.480
over time as you would expect in a in a not close election uh like that you know the the ratio between
00:42:16.240
them changes or the the number of votes between the candidates you know it changes during the night
00:42:21.380
uh and that is what you expect to see the fact that we don't see that in uh the senate race and
00:42:28.000
tina's secretary of state race and also the uh governor primary race uh is is definitely something
00:42:34.160
that that is is alarming and needs explained uh deraza you want to you want to jump in here and give
00:42:41.420
your perspective on it before i go back to uh jeff sure thanks so i've been looking at a little um
00:42:47.680
a deep more detailed at the county level and when we look at the county level we've been able to get
00:42:53.040
the cast vote records which is how the votes are counted ballot by ballot over time and um when we when
00:43:02.680
we look at that i send in some uh some graphs about that and um you can see as the as the votes uh come
00:43:11.280
in some things that are really interesting with uh the ratio between hanks so we can talk about that
00:43:20.080
but there's a there's a vote between hanks and um and uh oh oh um hanks and o'day for the senate
00:43:30.560
and tina peters and pam anderson for the secretary of state and then um lopez and ganal for the
00:43:38.400
governor and when you plot out the ratio of votes you would expect that the people that were supporting
00:43:44.680
the america first candidates in one race would support the american first candidates in another
00:43:49.040
race but we see an extreme uh delta between those two so some people are coming in and voting for the
00:43:55.840
america first candidates at the beginning of the race and then not at the end of the race and vice
00:44:02.560
versa for the other uh races so that they end at the very same ratio and it looks like the candidates
00:44:08.200
had the same amount of support when in fact when you look at how it accumulated over time it's not the
00:44:14.240
case let me go back to uh to jeff for a second jeff is if this is uh the um if uh if uh this is
00:44:24.720
uh the is this your pattern recognition if this is the best you've got or this information you got
00:44:30.620
why can't you go into court with that and and force some judge or go to court and make a case with
00:44:36.820
lawyers that this should give you some sort of injunction or tr or something to stop the process
00:44:42.480
so you then have some time to try to get organized to go back and have a hand ballot count i mean what
00:44:47.900
what evidence besides these graphs and the and the and obviously the anomalies as it looks like in the
00:44:54.840
in the patterns of how the votes came in i mean what more do you have than that or is that basically it
00:45:00.460
well in my opinion what you just heard is is two different ways of describing uh the things that
00:45:07.680
weren't right uh that don't look right in that election one through the election night reporting and
00:45:11.860
one through the cast vote record that comes right from the county itself in my opinion this should be
00:45:16.720
enough information to get a temporary restraining order uh to give people time it's only been a few
00:45:21.780
weeks now since that election uh and there's a very short window that they give you to to try to
00:45:28.600
uh come up with with proof and uh we of course we can't make up data as much as we'd like to
00:45:34.340
uh we have to use what we have and what is available and getting this data takes time but hang
00:45:39.900
but hold up but hold but hang on this what i'm saying with what deraza has at the county level
00:45:45.220
and what you've shown do the lawyers not think that's enough to go in and make a presentation
00:45:50.880
and say hey all we want to do is slow things down here so we can get into it and actually take a
00:45:55.460
look at i understand that tina's trying to raise money to i think the deadlines tomorrow as she said
00:46:00.560
on the morning show to be able to raise two hundred thirty six thousand dollars in order to get and it's
00:46:05.220
got to come in donors and uh twelve uh twelve hundred twelve hundred fifty dollar increments
00:46:09.640
which is tough that you have to uh that if she doesn't do it tomorrow it goes away so so why
00:46:16.560
wasn't the information you had enough to go into court and try to get a judge at least to get some
00:46:20.960
media exposure and get a judge to focus on particularly what deraza has i'm not privy to all of the uh the
00:46:28.940
machinations legally now in my opinion it should have been done i thought that uh i i actually in my
00:46:37.320
opinion i thought that it was happening and it may still be happening uh uh it that would be you
00:46:42.680
know i i would approach it both ways uh simply because you never know what sort of a judge you're
00:46:48.880
going to run into and what other problems you have hang hang hang hang hold it hold it let's say you
00:46:53.500
walk in and i'm gonna get to deraza a second let's say you walk in we're in court today you're in front
00:46:57.960
of a judge and it's one of these hurried things you got to get in you're trying to get just a
00:47:01.220
restraining order or tro or an injunction to stop everything in place give me your best argument
00:47:07.420
without pointing to any grass you're just sitting there in the docket what's your best argument to
00:47:11.480
the judge the judge we need to look at what because of these anomalies what's your what's your best case
00:47:16.960
my best case is well you have to say though you have to admit that there are these anomalies
00:47:22.920
uh that occurred uh there are other anomalies in that the uh the you know some internal polling
00:47:29.200
that they have was was very very different than the result that happened but also i i think that
00:47:34.960
what you have to say is but hold it hold it but hold it but hold it hang on hang on hang on but the
00:47:41.960
internal polling is not going to count particularly i understand internal polling on a on a primary for
00:47:47.440
a secretary of state in a state could be so far off as to be things so that's what but tell me the
00:47:54.100
evidence i understand there's a crisis of confidence but what's the evidence you're going to tell the
00:47:58.540
judge that we need an injunction to stop so that we can get in there and spend days weeks or months
00:48:03.780
however it's going to take to get to the bottom of what are you going to tell the judge is it the
00:48:07.160
pattern recognition you've got in the uh in these charts if i could talk to the judge i would tell him
00:48:13.160
it is the patterns in this chart and i would relate those back to patterns in the 2020 election
00:48:17.800
which are similar which which showed fraud then to me that's enough of a probable cause to to
00:48:23.720
to push the brakes on this thing and make sure they get it right uh daraza you you've got 60 seconds
00:48:32.200
make your case to the judge ma'am we are seeing the exact same things that we saw in the 2020 election
00:48:39.100
when we look at the cast vote records from the machines we see that the initial votes start with
00:48:45.500
the very heavy preference for the one for the candidate that was um not not the pref not not
00:48:52.840
expected to win and then we see it rise in ratio over time towards the candidate that would have been
00:49:02.460
the uh expected to win but they never they never do win but there's never any step back for preference
00:49:09.400
for that candidate that started out with such a heavy ratio even though the votes are are the majority
00:49:15.320
of the votes are mail-in which should be a random opinion of the entire county so that kind of uh
00:49:21.240
statistical segregation is very odd and when you get the same shape in a democrat to republican
00:49:26.560
that you get in a republican to republican primary very okay uh daraza give real quickly give your
00:49:34.540
social media how do people find out more about what you're doing and to get to the bottom of this
00:49:38.220
where they go hi you can find me on telegram and truth social at lady draaza and uh
00:49:45.300
i am posting the majority of my research and studies there okay we're gonna get that uh jeff o'donnell
00:49:55.060
how do people get to you i'm gonna have you back later in the week but how do people get to you sir
00:49:58.060
uh i've all of my research is usually out on uh mega raccoon.com m-a-g-a raccoon.com and i'm also
00:50:07.600
on telegram under a lone raccoon a lone raccoon okay we're gonna get this all up on the social
00:50:14.460
media right now uh brian kennedy thank you brian kennedy your social media how do people track you sir
00:50:19.280
uh brian t kennedy on getter and uh and on truth social
00:50:25.760
brian kennedy uh you and claremont came out pretty well wapo jeff bezos amazon wapo didn't lay a glove on
00:50:34.480
in fact i think it's a uh a paid advertising you ought to put that up on your website sir so honored
00:50:38.920
that you came on and helped me out this hour appreciate it tomorrow morning at 10 o'clock
00:50:43.260
we're gonna light it thanks brother we're gonna light it back up in the war and we'll see you back