00:00:29.000I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:34.660Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:38.420If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:44.740War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.
00:00:48.020Wednesday, 3rd of June, Anno Domini, 2026.
00:01:00.180Harnwell here at the helm on Steve Bannon's warm.
00:01:03.460Let's bring on Jenny and Frank right away.
00:01:06.340Jenny, great to have you back with us today.
00:01:11.780I know you've been off Skyrim for the last few weeks,
00:01:13.540but it is wonderful to have you back for your Gen Z.
00:01:18.020insights um did you did you have a nice break well it wasn't a break ben i will i will overlook
00:01:26.000the slander i was working very hard on other projects i'll have you know
00:01:29.500you were um you were on assignment as steve likes to say i was on assignment yes exactly
00:01:37.360well or skiving as we call it as you like to say as you like to say as we call it good old
00:01:45.560old-fashioned british english thank you i am i am delighted to be back yes i did thank you
00:01:51.540i hope you did too back i've uh have i been away i was in the uk i had a great week yeah thanks
00:01:59.080i had a fantastic week um okay so folks uh you might remember five years ago there was this
00:02:09.660This accusation led in Canada, in British Columbia, I think it was the First Nations Indigenous tribe, had announced with great fanfare that 215 bodies of presumed school children had been found on the property of a residential school,
00:02:33.320which was obligatory in Canada, I think, between 1870 and 1960 or something like that.
00:02:41.360Big fanfare. Justin Castro, the illegitimate offspring of Fidel, then Prime Minister of Canada,
00:02:54.340ordered all flags, I think, in Canada at half-mast for six months or so.
00:03:05.060This took place in April, I think it was, May, May 2021, five years ago.
00:03:12.800And to mark that anniversary, because nobody's, not a single body has been recovered in the last five years,
00:03:23.140Of all the world's press that were dumping on the Catholic Church because it was a Catholic-run school, only the Globe and Mail had the courage, or at least the journalistic integrity, to come out five years later, I think to the day, with a mea culpa, with an editorial saying, we might have got this one wrong.
00:03:50.440um it was so big a scandal that even um not my pope the first francis of unhappy memory
00:04:02.800uh went over to canada and apologized in the name of the church not in my name not in frank
00:04:10.900walker's name not in jenny holland's name in the name of the church in fact i want to
00:04:15.540line he did not do that in my name right not my pope did not apologize in my name he did that
00:04:20.580all by himself um frank this story i think the reason it was so um electrifying for the world's
00:04:31.060media was it really did confirm so many biases that the liberal progressive elites had around
00:04:38.900the world but also obviously especially in canada against the catholic church and against
00:05:07.920I think I'm going to try and reach out to him,
00:05:09.620see if we can get him on the Friday show
00:05:12.500to break this down because he's written an absolutely superb analysis of this and it is
00:05:18.080horrifying frank i'd forgotten just how bad this was how um how it allowed everyone who hated the
00:05:24.780catholic church to dump on the institutional catholic church um and it was invented apparently
00:05:31.860it would appear it was all invented out of um out of whole cloth tell us a bit about what has
00:05:38.520what has emerged then what has been admitted to over recent days on the fifth anniversary of the
00:05:45.520hoax well i remember when it happened i mean there were churches burning it seemed like every day
00:05:52.000in canada there was graffiti all over the place and and people knew immediately that it was a hoax
00:05:58.760because the press is so controlled in canada but the alternative press if you looked around
00:06:03.360People knew, but there was a sort of a silence about it. And they got hundreds of millions of dollars earmarked for indigenous out of this event. So, you know, there was a money factor that was involved. And, you know, it took quite a while for them to sort of die down.
00:06:22.900I remember seeing beautiful, historic churches, because a lot of these churches were in rural areas, burning to the ground.
00:06:30.880And you think, why? How could this happen?
00:06:33.220And it just seemed to me like over a hundred of them went down.
00:06:36.200But this article says there's just dozens, but there was maybe a hundred with graffiti.
00:06:41.120And then it's all capped off by Francis, who shows up, dresses up like an Indian and smokes a peace pipe and apologizes.0.66
00:06:49.180You know, I feel like where I'm helpless, you know, the actual indigenous people that a lot of the descendants of the children that went to these indigenous schools for generations are Catholics now.0.93
00:07:10.680Now, like you asked me, I was starting to apologize about this and back up a little bit.
00:07:15.620i'm glad you i'm glad you um i'm glad you underline underline this because in the uh
00:07:23.480in the blood in in the it was effectively a blood libel let's call it what it was
00:07:28.140against the institutional the pre-conciliate institutional catholic church
00:07:32.980in the the hatred that had been whipped up
00:07:37.560by the Canadian government at the time and the liberal media churches historic
00:07:46.180churches in Canada were burnt down this is the point that you're making I want
00:07:50.640to online is including in those churches as historic churches that were burnt
00:07:55.740down were indigenous churches that were basically used by indigenous indigenous
00:08:01.440communities themselves. This is the highlighting of the fact. I mean, I
00:08:10.120believe it's probably coordinated right from the get-going as a deliberate
00:08:14.460opportunity to damage the credit. I mean, look, let's be honest, if we're
00:08:19.020going to do the Globe and Mail newspaper in its editorial did a mea culpa.
00:08:24.060If we're going to talk about this, let's do a mea culpa on behalf of the
00:08:27.500Catholic Church there were things that took place in the last century that are
00:08:31.820scandalous even to this day with the clerical sex abuse scandal scandalous
00:08:38.060even to this day and people left the church I'm not condoning leaving the
00:08:44.240church because it is the instrument of salvation here on earth people left the
00:08:51.380church they fell away from frequenting the um the sacraments there there were things in the last
00:08:59.520century that are truly scandalous you know i think all catholics of good faith have wondered how they
00:09:05.320can continue um it was terrible the the as i say the the clerical sex abuse scandal really terrible
00:09:12.740it was it was a yeah there aren't words really i think suitable words to to describe just how
00:09:18.900horrific it was but on the back of that on the back of that it would appear that this whole hoax
00:09:25.520was invented in order to renew and keep the anti-catholic momentum going right yeah and uh
00:09:34.360you know they did a lot of good things these were catholic schools but if you said that
00:09:38.220if you said oh you know what they did some good things at these schools too
00:09:42.100it wasn't all terrible even though it's probably not terrible hardly at all um you say that frank
00:09:48.180Frank, you say that. Frank, you say that. There was actually a teacher that came out and tried to make that argument, and they were sacked from one day to the next. They were fired from one day to the next, because they tried to make exactly that argument.
00:10:03.740And in that climate, you couldn't do it.
00:10:06.240And a priest was sanctioned, not by the government, but by his own bishop for saying the same kind of thing, too. That's not mentioned in this article.
00:10:12.740There was 3,500 people on this reconciliation register now.
00:10:29.740We have better scanners now, but this is where they're moving with it now.
00:10:33.880They tried to do this scanner in Tulsa, in this Tulsa riots, which is more like a race war.
00:10:42.120in the United States 100 years ago, and they just found, like, you know, farm equipment.
00:10:46.480And they have a whole community built up against this, rallying against this whole
00:10:53.220Kamloops residential schools hoax that is finding things, you know, that this is, you know,
00:10:59.400they're finding old wires, but they're not finding anything in the ground.
00:11:04.360It's just, they're moving now into saying, well, you know, they have spent $10 million
00:11:10.720dollars of money and they spend it on they can spend it on whatever they want they can have like
00:11:14.400security guards they have a lot of money involved they have scanners they have community engagement
00:11:19.560people they have mental health people but when they're saying when we get to the excavation which
00:11:25.660is going to happen next year everything's going to be totally blocked off and you can't look and
00:11:29.560they have indian indigenous poets that say that when they were kids they went to that school
00:11:34.060And they found people hanging from the roof of a barn, dying in that everybody had to be quiet and they weren't allowed to go to the bathroom with one person.
00:11:44.180It was like a nightmare, Nazi nightmare.0.99
00:11:57.820It was Catholic churches against priests.0.97
00:12:00.300They're calling nuns killers and Nazis.0.97
00:12:02.940And now they're saying, well, you're a denier. You're just a denier. And these deniers, they're all over our excavation sites, and they're causing a lot of trouble. So this is going to disappear now. But Pope Leo is going to continue to be like Francis and use these kinds of things.0.98
00:12:23.480Just like in his encyclical the other day, he apologized for slavery, like Francis apologized.
00:12:29.300The apology and the scam, they must continue on behalf of attacking the Catholic Church.
00:12:34.580It was such a crime to see a pope actually join in an attack against the Catholic Church.
00:12:41.380I know you say it was somewhat deserved.
00:12:43.320Well, all human beings have things that are somewhat deserved.
00:12:46.280But as an institution to have, you know, these lies on top of lies, on top of lies and all the churches burning down and no defense from the Pope, joining in from the Pope, this is going to continue now with Pope Leo.
00:13:00.420But, you know, you're absolutely right. Francis and Leo, the tag team. It is a continuity of dumping on traditional faithful Catholics, ganging up, laughing at faithful Catholics along with the secular and unconverted world.
00:13:23.580That is absolute continuity. I just want to wheel back, however, one thing. I wasn't trying to suggest that the anti-Catholic bigotry was deserved. I was just, in referencing the, because this is important, in referencing the clerical sex abuse crisis, I was just admitting that some of what men inside the Catholic Church have done in recent living memory is scandalous.0.89
00:13:52.140So I'm not going to say these things, you know, they could never happen.
00:14:01.060The story five years ago was tantamount to suggesting that nuns were killing schoolchildren,
00:14:06.300indigenous schoolchildren, and burying them anonymously in the ground.
00:14:10.340No, my argument was that everyone who hated the Catholic Church simply piled in on the back of something
00:14:18.800which was pretty much obviously a hoax even at the get-go, using this as a pretext.
00:14:23.220And as you correctly say, even the Pope joined in on that.
00:14:27.880The point about denialism, and you know, we have to move on, I'll go over to Jenny on this point here.
00:14:34.220But the point about denialism, which is the term that they called the people who were saying this never happened,
00:14:41.300and that was sort of taking place right from day one onwards, this never happened, there's no evidence of here.
00:14:46.720Even the scientists who were wheeled out to suggest that the radar technology had discovered these 215 bodies came out and said, actually, look, let's not go beyond what the evidence is here.
00:15:02.020So you have this denialism. They actually introduced legislation in the Canadian Parliament to make denialism a hate crime.
00:15:12.020Folks, we can't dwell on this one argument for the whole show, but let that sink in.
00:15:18.960You come up with a hoax, and then you give the people who launched the hoax hundreds of millions of Canadian dollars of taxpayers' money to basically open-ended nonsense, most of which I think is unaccounted for to this day.
00:15:36.820Certainly none of it has actually demonstrated the original cause.
00:15:39.900and then you it didn't pass right this legislation didn't didn't pass but you
00:15:45.020introduced legislation to make debating a historical fact a crime right and then
00:15:51.520you do what the what the the Canadian government what the Trudeau government0.69
00:15:55.380excuse me the Castro government did with the truckers which is you you do the
00:16:00.140debanking you do the debanking not even to the tucker's truckers but to the
00:16:05.160people who are giving them donations. That is where our sociopathic overlords would like to
00:16:12.900take this agenda and it's replicating itself right around the world. Folks, beware. Total hoax.0.99
00:16:20.220And I give credit and tribute to the Globe and Mail here who said in their own words in their
00:16:28.460editorial uh that they did not and i quote did not initially scrutinize much less challenge
00:16:35.740the um the assertions and they said that that does not um erase the initial failure of journalism
00:16:43.100so you know they're putting their hand up the only newspaper that has done um credit to them
00:16:48.060but that just goes to show how far these how far these um anti-catholic pogroms can go jenny coming
00:16:55.900Coming to you in just a quick moment after I shout out to the first half of the show's
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00:19:42.200a development i thought of you when i saw this the uk police that aren't particularly interested
00:19:48.880in policing any actual crimes these days but are interested and invested in policing um on behalf
00:19:58.880of woke dumb have issued this is in Wales I think South Wales police have issued a order
00:20:08.560to Welsh police officers to log anti-Islamic conversations on behalf of Welshmen these0.98
00:20:19.560could either be private conversations public conversations public statements the police
00:20:24.760are instructed to open a file on this and then they created a new keyword for
00:20:31.720this that describes a file order which is not a as a non-crime hate incident is
00:20:42.100the technical name for this a non-crime hate incidents being called an
00:20:45.760antisocial behavior incident innocent enough innocuous enough sounding words
00:20:51.340But they're very dangerous in what these files can do, because they might actually turn up on reports that could affect you if you are looking for a job.
00:21:03.080These specific reports for many sector jobs, such as teachers, nurses, doctors, social workers, youth workers, charity workers, clergy and religious workers, taxi drivers, etc, etc, etc.
00:21:20.540They're called DBS checks, Enhanced Disclosure and Barring Service Checks. DBS is known in the trade in the UK. And these files, if you're heard saying anything hostile against Islam or Muslims, these things will be put on your file, your anti-social behaviour file.
00:21:44.740And that will come up if you go for a job when you have to go for an obligatory DBS check.
00:22:12.660This is simply a subjective judgment call, right, of a single police officer who decides for himself that something is now to be considered anti-Islam. Is that right?
00:22:24.400Yes. I mean, the news out of the UK just gets more and more dire with every passing week in terms of woke repression of free speech and all civil liberties that flow from free speech, which is the foundational one.
00:22:41.500Of course, all of these repressions are directed into one area, which is the white, indigenous, English, Welsh, Scottish population, and it is affected on behalf, well, really on behalf of this regime of, I would say, clueless, perhaps, somewhere between clueless and sinister elites and their pets,
00:23:05.980who are immigrants, newer British citizens, newer immigrant communities, gays and trans,
00:23:14.920and the usual parade of woke pet causes. Now, this is very interesting because South Wales
00:23:23.700essentially, like you said, has ordered its police force to record instances where any discussion
00:23:32.400of Islam goes beyond what they deem, so what individual officers will deem legitimate without
00:23:40.500any guidance that I can see in these pieces as to what legitimate is. Now, England, UK was just
00:23:48.260sort of convulsed, the political class was sort of convulsed by a recent long drawn out attempt
00:23:54.480on behalf of Labour to institute a Islamophobia definition. And it actually backed down because
00:24:04.100the pushback was fierce enough, because it was essentially a blasphemy law. And it came out
00:24:11.280instead with this rather sort of like, you know, general and still terrible, but not as terrible
00:24:18.040as people thought, definition of non-statutory definition of Islamophobia being anything that
00:24:27.140is prejudicially stereotypical about Muslims. Now, the South Wales police have taken the ball
00:24:33.920and run with it, essentially. And like you said, these conversations, as deemed and adjudicated
00:24:39.280judge, jury, and executioner by individual cops, will be recorded as antisocial behavior incidents.
00:24:48.040And like you said, those can turn up on background checks that you need for a variety of jobs.
00:24:54.000Now, the antisocial behavior incident seems to be the fig leaf cover-up new name for what was previously known as the non-crime hate incidents,
00:25:10.300which was this truly Orwellian concept that exists really in the dreamed up in the fevered imagination of these apparatchiks in the UK establishment saying that non crimes, non crimes based around hate.
00:25:28.540So, you know, the connotations are ripe here were to be recorded and were recorded in the thousands and thousands.
00:25:36.740um uh so this is just this is just the labor government who's just more and more shambolic
00:25:43.080but also repressive it's an odd combination has are trying to kind of do a bait and switch where
00:25:48.820they're like oh yes no it's not a non-hate non-crime hate incident it's an antisocial0.99
00:25:54.780incident now of course antisocial behavior is a big thing here asbo's are like a commonly0.64
00:26:00.520even joked about thing where kids behaving badly and you know committing minor crime and fighting0.93
00:26:06.620and graffitiing and littering fall into that category of antisocial behavior.
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00:26:21.080there on behalf of the South Wales police.
00:26:25.340South Wales is an overwhelmingly white, and as the name would suggest, Welsh place.
00:26:32.420Cardiff, the main city in South Wales, has a rapidly growing Muslim population, growing
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00:31:32.740welcome back jenny um sorry the the adverts interrupted you mid-flow there pick up if you
00:31:42.280wouldn't mind the what you were saying just before the break before you do that i just want to i just
00:31:47.080want to point out to people that the british police who are now going to be in charge and
00:31:52.580in your words jenny is going to be sort of prosecution judge jury uh over whether someone
00:31:58.440has gone beyond an undefined legitimate criticism of it and these are the very same people who
00:32:06.480as the whole world is watching the newspapers right now who handcuffed the uh the 21 year old
00:32:14.700excuse me the 18 year old henry novak right uh 18 year old um uh henry novak uh they hang
00:32:22.560as he was dying they as he was dying he'd been stabbed five times um said the immortal words
00:32:30.900i can't breathe though that didn't seem to help him whatsoever handcuffed i think he died handcuffed
00:32:37.840And the guy who stabbed him was a Sikh with a ceremonial sword.
00:32:43.900When they eventually got to him, because his brother had passed the murder weapon to his mother and the mother had shuffled it off the site.
00:32:53.760They came in, they were called in, the family, they cleaned it up and then they scarpered and then the police came in and found it.
00:33:02.380The guy who killed this Henry Novak accused Novak of of racism.
00:33:08.300So the police basically descended on him. Poor kid stabbed five times, I think, in the heart, in the legs, handcuffed him.
00:33:18.640These are the very people. Yes. Who are now expected to adjudicate your and my criticisms of Islam.
00:33:27.960Have I got that right? Yeah, that's correct. That is correct.1.00
00:33:31.420The Henry Novak case is one of the most disturbing and upsetting cases I have ever heard in my life.
00:33:37.800I'm actually writing my substack about it for this weekend.
00:33:43.040But the real heart of this problem, Ben, as much as I could spend hours talking about that poor boy who died in such an unmerciful and cruel and undignified way at the hands of state employees,
00:33:57.620The key here is that the United Kingdom's professional managerial class, all institutions, as far as I can see, from the police to the NHS to anti-terrorism programs, have all been infiltrated and unduly, in my opinion, influenced by these third sector advocacy groups that run the gamut of woke ideological touch points.0.56
00:34:25.360There was even a group called Tell Mama that operated throughout England, English police forces, that encouraged basically snitching, again, encouraged people to report incidents of Islamophobia to the police to be followed up on.
00:34:42.140Now, the thing is, Ben and War Room here, this is the building crisis of sectarianism in England and Wales and United Kingdom more generally.
00:34:55.820It is the increasing pressure on the white indigenous community to submit to outrageous unfairness and miscarriages of justice, and in the case of Henry Novak, an untimely and brutal death of an 18-year-old man.
00:35:14.340and you know the the English and Welsh and Scottish and Northern Irish populations are
00:35:19.440being asked to submit to this over and over and over again by their own leaders or as you call
00:35:25.620them their sociopathic overlords and that's it actually Ben might be too mild a description to
00:35:30.960call them sociopaths at this point it is so outrageous so that the South Wales police force0.92
00:37:38.300individuals are left unable to predict whether their lawful speech or beliefs
00:37:44.160will attract police recording or how any resulting record may be used, retained or relied on.
00:37:51.380The letter itself is superb I think and to date I don't believe that Welsh police have responded to that
00:37:58.600but full hat tip to Lord Young there, at least one person in the UK Parliament is giving these things
00:38:07.980the attention they deserve. General hat tip as well to the Free Speech Union.
00:38:11.960Frank Walker, I know that time is galloping away from us, but there is a story, I think, here that will be of vital interest, not just to traditional Catholics, but to all Catholics.0.59
00:38:25.980And that is the free fall taking place right now in atheistic France.
00:38:31.660Legislation introduced yesterday, 2nd of June, that will allow the state to break effectively the seal of confession.
00:38:45.060And I know there have been a number of attempts at this legislatively.
00:39:59.680A priest would have to go to court and break the law in order to keep church law.
00:40:05.300And that's what they're talking about here in France.
00:40:07.160They're trying to pass a law, making it so that when priests hear something, it has to
00:40:11.200do a student violence or violence in schools. And he's required to report it. There's mandatory
00:40:18.140reporting. They usually include these kinds of things in other bills that require reporting for
00:40:23.740all other type of employees. And then they include the priests reporting in the seal of confession
00:40:28.740along with it. And, you know, actually the news is now that they've dropped it. At the last minute,
00:40:35.620they cut the priests out of what they required everybody else to do. But there was a big
00:40:40.140complaint from the bishops there's always complaints from the bishops and they said
00:40:43.380we're going to have it's going to create oversight in our catholic schools that is
00:40:48.080not appropriate and and i'm like why are they so interested in in just the oversight in the schools
00:40:53.500and i thought you know i always thought that this kind of thing has never really i was always
00:40:57.440surprised that these kind of laws don't ever seem to really pass because they tried them in seattle
00:41:02.060and they tried them in australia like you mentioned ben but i just i just ai'd i hit google ai about
00:41:08.260it and those laws and and are on the books now in australia according to google ai and in seattle
00:41:14.240and and like six other states in the united states and in you and in the uk and in ireland
00:41:19.260there are laws on the books that require this the thing is that maybe that's wrong i don't know
00:41:24.360but if that's the case then the how are they going to prosecute that in a normal church
00:41:30.000environment but it's very difficult but at a school if they have monitoring programs it is
00:41:36.540much more easy for them to do it and so that's why the bishops are complaining about oversight and
00:41:41.280people being intrusive with the schools i can't believe it's gotten this far that they'd be able
00:41:46.420to do this to to the best of my knowledge those um the the state at least in australia and the uk
00:41:53.900the state has not thus far uh instructed priests to break uh under the under pain of law um if if
00:42:02.660If a crime has been confessed in the confessional, the priests aren't at this moment, as far as I'm aware, aren't obliged by law to report those crimes to the authorities.
00:42:14.260But you know what? I'll check up on that.
00:42:15.760They did that in Washington too. They did that. So you don't have to enforce it, right?
00:42:20.840I'll check up on that. But to the best of my knowledge, they've tried it in Australia. I knew they were talking about it in the UK.
00:42:27.660I wasn't aware that either of those had come to.
00:42:30.280Just before we move on, did you just tell me that this measure was,
00:42:34.060because this was only introduced yesterday, right, during the first, excuse me,
00:43:23.280you know just because it's your duty should you go to jail for it it becomes a slippery slope and
00:43:29.680i think we're seeing it happen here it's anti-catholic i'm glad that they dropped it
00:43:34.760it's good news then that they dropped this um it basically after i think that the legislation
00:43:40.680had been introduced that the that that that an amendment has been i i you know what let's um
00:43:47.020update ourselves on this and bring in a report when we do the show next wednesday because this
00:43:51.480is important um and by the way i didn't i didn't see anything from the vatican no intervention on
00:43:57.480this on behalf of um of of french catholics in order to protect the integrity of of um the
00:44:05.200sacrament of confession um all right look folks i i am we'll come back and report on on the progress
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00:45:13.640Okay. Jenny, in the closing moments of the show, here's a story that you picked yourself. This is that Swiss bishops have backed a ban on LGBT conversion measures, citing the risk of spiritual abuse.
00:45:36.200That was somewhat unusual, I thought, a position for them to take.
00:45:41.420So this basically means that anyone who is wrestling with unwanted same-sex attraction, SSA I think it's called, in the industry,
00:45:50.900and goes to, and wants to seek professional therapeutic advice, can no longer get it.
00:46:02.220Because it's now, well, there's not only the Switzerland outlawing it, but the full weight of the Catholic Church has fallen down against this as well, which is unusual.
00:46:17.000I'm not aware of any bishops conference around the world taking this step, presumably at the behest of the LGBT lobby.
00:46:25.860Yeah, I mean, the law has not been voted on. I don't know what its chances of being voted in are or anything like that. But it's really it is a very strange and confusing story. And the article, the way that it's presented in the article that we're going to discuss is even odder, even more odd.
00:46:47.840So, yeah, conversion therapy bans are something of another sort of distraction, ploy, fig leaf mechanism.0.61
00:46:58.880First of all, name me, Ben, anywhere in Western Europe today where conversion therapy, as traditionally understood, i.e., you know, kidnapping a sweet young gay child, boy child, and beating him until he promises that he's straight and won't have any more sinful gay thoughts.
00:47:17.200name me one place where that actually exists like it doesn't happen okay so we're they're engaging0.96
00:47:22.760in this sort of hyperbolic libtard fantasy of having to rescue gays from the evil clutches0.85
00:47:28.540of christians now i mean that that is obviously this law is very anodyne language it's all very0.92
00:47:35.120you know neatly done but this this is the motivation that drives this law is the same
00:47:40.740is also driven by this fake liberal dream of crusading against homophobia when basically
00:47:49.140no homophobia exists any longer in Western Europe and in the United States. But what it also does,
00:47:56.740handily for the woke zealots, is that it essentially puts the brakes on anyone trying to
00:48:05.400push back against the gender ideology, especially as it is inflicted upon children.
00:48:12.840Because what conversion therapy really means nowadays isn't protect the young gay kids0.99
00:48:18.180from the evil Christians. It means make sure that children who are targeted by perverted gender1.00
00:48:24.340ideology cannot be rescued either by their parents or by therapists. So a lot of kids are
00:48:32.140presenting with these genuinely distressing mental and emotional conditions, having essentially been
00:48:40.400in one way or another brainwashed into thinking that they are the opposite sex, and that only if
00:48:46.000they get gender affirming care, which is another fake misleading term, i.e. the medicalized
00:48:54.480sex change surgery pathway, will they be able to be happy? Will they be safe? Will they be,
00:49:01.760will they be their true selves? So parents who rightly say, absolutely not. A, you cannot be
00:49:08.680born in the wrong body. And B, you're just a kid. This isn't happening. In places in America and in
00:49:13.880Canada that have passed similar conversion therapy bans have had their parental rights terminated,
00:49:20.080have had their custodial rights terminated or greatly affected because of laws like this.
00:49:26.620It also has a very restrictive effect on therapists who are the remaining therapists who are sane and live in the reality-based community and try to get to the underlying motivations that is almost always there for children who are presenting as trans, whether it's sexual abuse trauma or even just porn trauma or autism or depression, a whole host of comorbidities.
00:49:55.900and of course you know these people these laws always say oh we we carve out this and that and
00:50:01.380safeties and protections overall the the the overall meaning and the overall direction of this
00:50:07.360is you must accept the new lgbt religion or we will see to it that you could lose your children0.93
00:50:13.320in and lose your job um so motion 22.3889 presently before the swiss parliament would
00:50:24.800prohibit and penalize the offering facilitating and advertising of conversion measures uh and
00:50:34.200that as jenny holland was just magnificently describing is is now a motion that is being
00:50:41.780supported by swiss catholic bishops i think that's a real betrayal actually to be honest with you i
00:50:48.720think it's a betrayal um and as always with these things a fish rots from the head down right that
00:50:56.640the lot is in rome i mean this article can i just quickly say ben can i just quickly say this article
00:51:02.960very mysteriously says that this is uh sort of grounded in church teaching somehow and i'm just
00:51:09.400really shocked at how catholic elites can just simply go along with these lies they're invoking
00:51:16.060human dignity um that's what we've got time for jenny you mentioned you're going to be writing
00:51:20.060about henry novak in this weekend substack where do people go now to get that as it comes out
00:51:25.06015 seconds uh jenny e holland.substack.com thank you ben you're welcome and we'll see if we can
00:51:33.820is trying some light on that ourselves frank walker where do people go for canon 212 the
00:51:39.340trad catholic answer to matt drudge and 212.com and the daily update is
00:51:45.240you can see it in the right hand column and that's uh you also get stumbling block as well
00:51:52.100where you do your daily video analysis folks that's all we have time for now steve we're back
00:51:56.660at 10 a.m tomorrow morning and i thank will at real america's voice for putting the show together
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