Bannon's War Room - June 17, 2026


WarRoom Battleground EP 1033: SCANDAL IN DEARBORN: ā€œCatholicā€ Archbishop Blesses Mosque And Simpers About The ā€œDivine Presenceā€


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00:00:01.000 There is nowhere that I feel greater honor, fraternity, and kindness, and from the moment I drove on to this beautiful property today, I very fully felt the sense of the divine presence.
00:00:15.960 As our wonderful imam spoke so beautifully, we are members of the same human family.
00:00:23.460 All churches, all mosques, all synagogues, all places where God reaches out and touches with his finger are sacred.
00:00:33.980 This is a truly wonderful and sacred place.
00:00:38.400 A place that will bring all of humanity, I believe, into deeper communion with our one God.
00:00:45.300 My prayers are that you will know great, great successes here, great blessings here,
00:00:52.360 and that together we will come to love our one God all the more.
00:00:57.420 I will be brief because I also know we have prayer at 1.30.
00:01:01.840 But again, I'm deeply, deeply grateful for the welcome.
00:01:07.160 I'm deeply grateful to be in the presence of other religious leaders in our community.
00:01:12.500 and there is no place, I think, that I feel more at home.
00:01:17.260 May God bless you.
00:01:18.840 May God bless this place.
00:01:20.840 May God keep you always safe, productive,
00:01:23.940 and filled with joy and blessings.
00:01:26.100 Thank you.
00:01:29.660 Now, after losing members during the clergy sex abuse scandal
00:01:33.280 and during COVID, is the Catholic Church making a comeback?
00:01:37.000 Parishes here and across the country
00:01:38.540 are reporting a significant increase in new members,
00:01:41.660 And much of that resurgence is being driven by Gen Z, people in their 20s.
00:01:45.880 Some tell KDK lead investigator Andy Sheehan they're looking for deeper meaning in life.
00:01:52.920 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:01:57.820 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:02:03.120 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:02:07.380 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:02:09.280 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:02:10.460 I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
00:02:13.420 It's going to happen.
00:02:14.700 And where do people like that go to share the big line?
00:02:18.080 Mega Media.
00:02:19.420 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:02:24.840 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:02:28.640 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:02:34.800 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.
00:02:40.460 Wednesday 17th of June
00:02:46.420 Anno Domini
00:02:47.340 2026
00:02:49.140 Harnwell here at the helm
00:02:50.900 on Steve Bannon's War Room
00:02:52.480 a regular time on Wednesday evening
00:02:54.760 when we delve in
00:02:56.460 to the rot 0.78
00:02:58.840 inside the institutional Catholic Church 0.69
00:03:01.500 and correspond that
00:03:03.380 to the revival
00:03:04.920 what we're calling the revival
00:03:06.740 Gen Z
00:03:09.340 led 1.00
00:03:09.900 war room where we've got our very own gen z jenny holland who's going to be coming on shortly just 1.00
00:03:17.300 to break down what we saw in the second part of the cold open just before the opening titles in
00:03:23.300 fact i have to say the cold open day sets up the whole show perfectly because you have the church
00:03:29.940 in growth um amongst the youth amongst gen z youth we're going to dive down specifically where
00:03:37.800 that's taking place. The statistics will show that it's taking place amongst the converts to
00:03:43.780 Catholicism. And the first part of the cold open in the video, we just had Archbishop Edward
00:03:53.080 Weisenberger at the grand opening of the new mosque in Dearborn. And you heard him waffling
00:04:03.200 on about how moved he was by the sense of the divine you heard him waffling on about
00:04:11.760 we're all worshiping the same god um that i why do i say that teases up for the show because we're
00:04:17.920 actually going to be talking about exactly what the catholic church the institutional catholic
00:04:23.760 church which i would like to gently suggest is not the mystical body of jesus christ but the
00:04:29.920 institutional Catholic Church the Vatican actually does how it actually reacts
00:04:35.200 when there is something that departs from what it insists is the truth and
00:04:41.500 you won't see that with regards to the relationship with Islam because quite
00:04:49.040 frankly the institutional Catholic Church the post concilia Institute
00:04:53.380 institutional Catholic Church really doesn't care that much about the gospel
00:04:58.000 of Jesus Christ or conversion to the Gospel of Jesus Christ. That is just the veneer that it
00:05:06.440 uses to push an aggressively pro-invasion, pro-Marxist position. And it's also very convenient
00:05:14.700 as a veneer in clamping down on that segment of the church, which is in growth, which never
00:05:22.140 really bought into the compromises of modernism that was ushered into the church, imposed on
00:05:27.960 the church by Pope John XXIII and Pope Paul VI. Which brings us, Frank Walker, on to your
00:05:39.660 weekly update for us today, which is the news that Pope Dialogue with the 7th, that is to
00:05:50.540 say the 7th Pope of Dialogue from the death of Pius XII onwards, perhaps in a future show,
00:05:58.620 Frank, I'll dive in why I'm picking that watermark specifically, but we'll just take it as read
00:06:05.620 at the moment, 7 Popes of Dialogue, 7 Popes, don't forget the inverted commas here, 7th
00:06:16.620 Pope of Dialogue in succession, John XXIII, Paul VI, John Paul I, John Paul II, Benedict
00:06:24.360 XVI, Francis, and the actual pretender, Bob Prevost, more commonly known by his stage
00:06:33.920 name, Pope Leo XIV, and Pope Anti-Pope, Pope Leo, Pope Dialogue VII, came out and ruled
00:06:44.460 this is where this is where we won't see the dialogue we'll see the dialogue to
00:06:48.840 the Muslims we'll see the dialogue to the Freemasons which you see the one
00:06:54.600 place where the one corner of the church where there's no dialogue is the SSPX
00:06:59.160 he's come out today Frank Walker and said yesterday no dialogue he's gonna
00:07:03.900 receive the SSPX he's not gonna negotiate with the SSPX they can take it
00:07:10.140 or leave it basically and he he's he's talking about he might do a final appeal um talking about
00:07:18.480 the the sorrow that all christians feel the separation and splits in the church he might do
00:07:23.320 a final appeal before was it the the july the first consecrations from the sspx tell me uh
00:07:32.980 your because this is i think front and foremost on canon 212 you've obviously been pushing this
00:07:40.120 quite hard and I know why you're pushing this quite hard because this is one of
00:07:44.320 those opportunities that really forces Catholics to choose which mental
00:07:52.340 narrative they are going to allow themselves to be aligned with. So break 0.80
00:07:58.660 it down, what did he say? It's short remarks, no dialogue, Pope Dialogue the
00:08:04.340 7th no dialogue to the sspx he did say why in his remarks what the fundamental disagreement was
00:08:12.900 um the second vatican council of course of course it's going to be the second vatican council he
00:08:19.800 said no no because they reject certain fundamentals and he went out of his way to name what those
00:08:25.740 fundamentals were it was the council which john the 23rd said wasn't going to be a dogmatic council
00:08:32.380 when he called it, and which Paul VI said wasn't a dogmatic council after it concluded.
00:08:37.680 That is the council, which, according to both popes that bookended it,
00:08:43.540 said wasn't a dogmatic council.
00:08:44.780 That's the council, which is the dividing line for the post-conciliar church.
00:08:51.760 Break it down for us, Frank, as we go towards July the 1st.
00:08:55.120 Perhaps start with this.
00:08:56.280 What is, because people are asking me, and my response to this question is,
00:09:00.760 i don't believe so okay but let me hear your take do you think that leo the 14th will formally
00:09:11.860 excommunicate the sspx should it go through with these four uh consecrations and then put it on
00:09:21.020 the back of uh his comments that uh that yesterday uh where he said no to negotiation
00:09:27.740 yeah you so you're saying that you don't think he probably won't is that what you said i i i
00:09:34.520 i would say that that is what i that and i'll tell you why right i tell you why that's correct
00:09:41.600 i i don't think he will but that said that wasn't that that wasn't the the vibes he was giving off
00:09:48.720 his uh his remarks um not at all i tell you why because what he's been incredibly intelligent
00:09:56.640 i think since he uh stepped out onto the loja uh and took the name paul uh leo the 14th he's been
00:10:07.240 very intelligent to give trad inc all the wiggle room it needs to play along without opposing him
00:10:16.240 um if he if he comes out and says either they've been formed that if there's a formal excommunication
00:10:22.780 or simply just says it's latte sentencia that they are they have excommunicated themselves
00:10:28.680 that really does i think well perhaps i'm overestimating their integrity that really does
00:10:35.280 i think put trad ink in the position where they're going to have to take a position with regards to
00:10:40.480 this papacy and it will break the spell that they've conjured for themselves of give leo some
00:10:46.520 chance let's wait and see he's still settling in they're gonna they're gonna have to stop that
00:10:51.280 particular grift uh and i think that you're right about that you're right about that ben because uh
00:10:59.660 that line needs to be drawn i'm so glad that you put up that uh archbishop weisenberger at the
00:11:05.980 beginning. I mean, I've been doing this for almost 20 years and I'm shocked by that. I'm really
00:11:11.100 shocked by that. I can't believe that he said that, that he made that speech. And, you know,
00:11:16.220 I would, I would say to any Catholic in Detroit, why not just join up, you know, become a Muslim, 0.94
00:11:22.820 you know, just go ahead, you know, because, because there's no, there's no longer the 0.93
00:11:27.340 Father, Son, Holy Spirit, there's no Holy Trinity anymore. And that is so upsetting. I mean,
00:11:33.360 you cannot give money to an organization like that it's just a pretense to pretend that that
00:11:39.520 operation is a catholic church and so when leo if he were to draw a line against the traditional
00:11:46.900 catholics then that would be the beginning of a catholic church that was distinct and and you're
00:11:54.620 saying that he does not want that to happen he certainly sounds like he wants it to happen though
00:11:59.200 he's really you know he's really going all in here he's saying that you i'm not going to make
00:12:04.860 any more appeals you need to think about what you're considering you're causing a division
00:12:09.260 among christians on the fundamental elements which is vatican ii i mean they're vatican ii
00:12:14.760 does not declare any doctrines like you said and even benedict said that you know you need to look
00:12:20.600 at the things that vatican ii says in light of the past and whatever is continuous with the with
00:12:26.140 the teaching of the church then that's what's what you should believe so that nobody but the
00:12:31.760 sspx has ever been required to do this but if they draw this line then people are going to start to
00:12:37.020 have to move over with this um with this with this young people that are coming into the church and
00:12:43.480 growing they're going to have to find this place to go because this green shoots are coming up
00:12:47.920 even though no matter how hard bishop weisenberger is trying to squash them down again it would be a
00:12:53.900 sin for the faithful Catholics to accept what they call the teachings of Vatican II that nobody
00:12:58.760 else is required to accept. It'd be a sin. And if we're all together in unity, and he wants to be 0.70
00:13:05.320 in union, we're all union, we're all doomed sheep. The only family of God are the people
00:13:11.120 that are united with Christ in his teaching. You can't bless anybody unless it's in the name of
00:13:16.880 the Holy Trinity. And if you're not united in those things, you can't get to heaven that way.
00:13:21.380 And if that's not what you're all about, then what's the point? What's the point of anything? So I think that this line should be drawn by at least by the trad side. If Leo's not going to draw it, the trad side, someone's got to draw it so that the future can happen.
00:13:37.600 i i have to say the um the archbishop weisenberg thing there was a moment towards the end of his
00:13:45.760 minute and a half betrayal of the catholic church his betrayal is a minute and a half
00:13:52.760 of jesus christ i should say um yes well i actually thought i actually thought he was
00:13:58.200 going to to give a trinitarian blessing at the end um his hands because he because because he
00:14:04.740 says i know i bless you know i bless you and everything i thought oh my god he's actually
00:14:09.200 he's actually going to go all the way um but he didn't and because i think that you know that
00:14:15.980 would have been but if the whole minute and a half wasn't too much anyway and as you say after 20
00:14:21.180 years in in this particular game that was probably one of us you say one of us outrageous things you
00:14:26.680 ever seen to have done the trinitarian blessing um would have would have been the icing on the 0.98
00:14:31.660 But I think everything that had preceded the end was basically just as bad in form, right? 0.99
00:14:40.940 It's all been set up in advance.
00:14:43.800 That's right.
00:14:44.260 Leo's, I mean, Francis Abu Dhabi's statement, it's all set up in advance.
00:14:47.680 It's all in Vatican II.
00:14:48.760 It's just, it's bearing fruit for you to see right there.
00:14:52.240 And Leo, when he says to the SSPX, I'm sorry, but we need to move forward.
00:14:57.620 he doesn't mean move forward in terms of a church that's going to grow like all the hype is saying
00:15:03.480 that there's so much growth there's green shoots coming up but those are catholic shoots he's not
00:15:08.640 saying move forward in the mouth of the church the church is going to be destroyed according to leo
00:15:13.600 and you will go along with that he's saying move forward into you will own nothing and be happy
00:15:18.780 into the globalism into the un into the digital idea and the digital currency and all this other
00:15:25.480 stuff that is leo's real religion and and like weisenberger shows into the islamization of what
00:15:32.140 was formerly christian society that's what leo means when he tells the catholics to move forward
00:15:36.960 we have to move forward i'm sorry but we're not you we're not going to be a part affiliated with
00:15:42.380 you anymore over here we're moving forward francis said the same thing canon he did and we'll come
00:15:51.000 back onto this later on. This is Bergoglio II, this papacy. All right, we've got to wrap
00:15:58.680 it up now because we've got to go over it. You mentioned the green shoots. We're going
00:16:01.400 to have to go over to Jenny and break those green shoots down. I just want to read out
00:16:06.040 what he said, though, what translated from Italian into English. He said, I am considering
00:16:10.760 making another appeal and saying, do not do this. Let us try to live the communion of
00:16:16.920 the church but it's their choice we must realize what it means for them and for the church certainly
00:16:22.100 division among christians is a painful point however they refuse to accept some fundamental
00:16:28.060 elements of the church beginning with several points of the second vatican council if they
00:16:33.120 make that decision i'm sorry but we must move forward um i'll close with this and then frank
00:16:38.940 no doubt we will pick these themes up on the sspx episcopal consecrations next week as well
00:16:45.740 with the developments as they roll out but i make this point there has been this is why you know
00:16:50.920 that these guys are usurpers and full of cant right there has been no statement like this
00:16:57.460 with regards to the equally illegitimate episcopal consecrations ordered by the ccp 0.92
00:17:06.780 in china that's how you know these guys are fakes right and they do not speak for me frank walker 0.97
00:17:13.100 they don't speak for you and they don't speak for for believing Catholics who are trying the 0.64
00:17:18.560 difficult job of fighting for their faith in daily life these guys are um are absolute usurpers
00:17:26.480 okay uh over to Jenny in just one moment because she does have some some good news I think it's
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00:19:58.620 Jenny Holland. The results, I think, that I think that the Pew, the good folks at the Pew Research have come up with, seem to be suggesting Catholics are more likely than cradle Catholics to vote Republican.
00:20:19.680 Could you break it down for us? Tell us what's there in the statistics?
00:20:24.600 Yeah, the study found I think it was 60% of converts to Catholicism were considered themselves to be Republican in orientation and something like low 50s of cradle Catholics considered themselves, I think, Democrats.
00:20:48.760 And, you know, I think this is very interesting because it absolutely aligns with what we talk about regularly on the show, which is, well, apart from the use turning towards the Catholic Church,
00:21:02.700 The other factor that's driving people to God is the increasingly demented reality of secular liberalism and the sort of rotten fruits of decades of very atheistic, shall we say, secular policies that are harming people all the time.
00:21:30.540 You know, the migrant crisis is one of them that, you know, we'll come back to later.
00:21:36.700 So people who are horrified by the new state religion, which is woke, at least according to some governments in Europe, like the United Kingdom, and certainly according to a lot of policy class professionals in the United States,
00:21:52.940 their new woke religion has so horrified ordinary people, people who are just decent people trying
00:22:00.540 to go about their lives and are still in possession of a thing we call common sense,
00:22:06.920 that that has driven people back to the church. It's also interesting that the numbers of cradle
00:22:13.620 Catholics are still sort of, you know, a mix, still quite centrist, I would say, to characterize
00:22:21.700 the numbers. And I forget what the exact numbers were. But that makes sense as well, because,
00:22:26.900 you know, certainly the Catholics I knew growing up in America, you know, some of them were quite
00:22:33.240 liberal, some of them were more traditional, but there was always this strain of sort of social
00:22:37.840 justice within the church. And I think a lot of sort of like the intellectuals and things like
00:22:45.340 that were quite open-minded and supported the Democrats, obviously, as a party. So this sea
00:22:57.960 change is directly attributable, in my opinion anyway, to the rise of the new state religion
00:23:05.780 of woke ideology and the horrors it has meted out on communities and certainly families and
00:23:12.940 children and young people with the utter degraded morality that is pushed on
00:23:18.500 young people in schools and on social media. And do you have any specific
00:23:27.280 conclusion to, and let me quote the statistic here from Pew Research, because they're talking
00:23:36.640 to the Catholic registered voters, they're saying 60% of converts are identifying as Republican,
00:23:43.360 whereas lifelong cradle Catholics, that's only 52%. That's not a statistical error,
00:23:50.060 that that's a that's a real difference there and likewise cradle or 35% of
00:23:58.560 converts are registered Democrat compared to 43% of cradle Catholics
00:24:07.280 again that's not that's not a statistical error that's that's a real
00:24:10.580 phenomenon are you drawing anything out of why converts would be more likely to
00:24:18.920 to be republican than cradled catholics and less likely to be democrat than cradled catholics
00:24:25.280 yeah if this was a sort of if these were normal times you could probably just attribute it to the
00:24:30.960 fervor of the convert right um you know a newly discovered passion for uh this worldview in terms
00:24:39.140 of the catholic church but i think it's deeper than that i think um people are seeking solace
00:24:45.020 And people are seeking sort of a timeless truth that can counterbalance this debased, materialistic, modernistic, or postmodernistic, dystopian, really, world.
00:25:01.860 We have this large cadre of young people, and I don't know if they're the majority, but they're very vocal and they're very influential because they're upper middle class children coming out of these woke madrasa universities who embrace abortion up until birth, who embrace sterilization, who embrace terrorist organizations like Hamas.
00:25:25.740 And the more demented the policies of what used to be just the normal liberals become, the more radicalizing, literally radicalizing that is to people who are still, like I said before, in possession of common sense.
00:25:43.420 One of the few places to go if you are in that position, which is the position I have found myself in since the rise of woke in particular, has been in the sort of older traditions of the Catholic Church, where you find a deep intellectual history.
00:26:03.180 You find a beautiful liturgy and ritual, and you find a community of people who are in touch with an older spiritual reality.
00:26:13.980 And it's really like a solve on a very tormented mind, which I think we are experiencing a mass derangement in the liberal world.
00:26:26.540 And that is why people are turning towards the Catholic Church.
00:26:29.500 that the we've got a video which we'll play just um after the break that summarizes what you're
00:26:37.200 saying jenny i just want to quickly call out the the independent article that was just being
00:26:41.680 flashed up on the screen as you were talking because that talks about this as a gallup poll
00:26:46.460 which talks about the sharp rise in religiosity amongst young men and that's exactly i think that
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00:31:47.900 They're returning to the faith. They're joining the church for the first time.
00:31:52.140 St. Paul Cathedral saw overflow crowds on Easter this year,
00:31:56.040 A weekend in which the Pittsburgh Diocese baptized 800 new Catholics, more than double from the year before, a trend that delights the newly installed Bishop Mark Ekman.
00:32:07.940 Very significant. And that's not just in Pittsburgh. That's across the country.
00:32:12.040 Every diocese is reporting a surge, more than double than what they've ever seen before.
00:32:17.380 After decades of church closures accelerated by COVID and the clergy sex abuse scandal, the Catholic Church is seeing a resurgence across the country.
00:32:28.040 And while new members are of all ages, the movement is being driven by college students and young people in their 20s who say they're looking for something more meaningful than the pursuit of money, power and prestige, what society calls success.
00:32:43.680 that was a quite
00:32:46.300 I recommend this
00:32:47.920 I think we'll see if we'll push that out
00:32:49.460 on our own social media
00:32:50.740 the whole segment there
00:32:51.980 the whole film
00:32:52.600 certainly a few minutes long
00:32:54.460 we just took out
00:32:55.660 a minute of that
00:32:57.140 I think the whole thing
00:32:58.380 was very sensitively
00:32:59.400 and intelligently done
00:33:01.460 Jenny Holland
00:33:02.080 the themes in that segment
00:33:04.700 on the revival
00:33:05.720 which specifically mention
00:33:07.460 what's going on in Gen Z
00:33:09.360 this is what you've been talking about
00:33:11.780 here on this show
00:33:12.520 for the past year isn't it exactly what you've been saying yeah it's like the the mainstream
00:33:18.440 media is catching up to our wednesday warm room show ben which is nice to see uh yeah very
00:33:24.020 interesting i mean that 800 new um uh converts on easter is a huge number because remember when
00:33:32.920 we're seeing these numbers come through um they're they're large increases but they're still
00:33:37.460 small numbers i think 800 is the most we've seen yet in in the year that we've been doing this
00:33:41.740 Also note that the within the last month or so, 60 Minutes did a segment, a similar segment about young Gen Z converts to Catholicism, as did the German state broadcaster.
00:33:54.900 I believe it's called DW. So the mainstream media is catching up to us here.
00:34:00.260 I think they're they're treating it with kid gloves because, you know, being corporate media, you know, they have they still have their biases and they're not addressing head on the crisis that liberalism has brought about.
00:34:16.400 um it would be too triggering for their for their audiences probably but as you know as you we
00:34:21.980 started out the show with that in shocking uh video of the dearborn mosque and the archbishop
00:34:29.440 saying that we all prayed under the same god i mean these are this is this these two forces uh
00:34:35.520 seem to be to me to be on a unavoidable collision course because i can i would bet my farm on the
00:34:44.200 fact that the 800 people who were baptized over Easter weekend in Pittsburgh alone were not
00:34:51.840 joining the Catholic Church so that they could play happy, clappy hugs and kisses with local
00:34:58.760 mosques. I think that kind of rhetoric is for peacetime. And I can't believe that I am in a 0.89
00:35:06.400 position to say this and correct an archbishop, you know, far be it for me to do that. But someone
00:35:11.400 needs to tell that man that we are in a spiritual war a full-on spiritual crisis and if he paid
00:35:17.980 attention to what was happening in uh amongst the youth that would be very obvious and to run
00:35:25.000 to the arms of the historical foe of the catholic church the most powerful foe of the catholic
00:35:32.240 church not to mention you know let's not mention what dante had to say about this um there is you
00:35:38.820 know there is a huge disconnect between these boomer elites who are essentially in indistinguishable
00:35:45.760 from the sort of libtard boomer elites um in secular world and the liberal boomers in elites 0.93
00:35:53.480 in the catholic church in the catholic hierarchy war impossibly folks at home generally holland 0.94
00:36:00.480 has just absolutely nailed it we are in the middle of a spiritual war that's why i think it is more
00:36:06.360 it's it's of supernatural importance that the faithful are um courageous and inflexible when
00:36:14.000 it comes to holding to the faith and you're right jenny you're jenny you're absolutely right it's a
00:36:18.660 spiritual war and it is not the moment to retread 1960s 1970s come by our ism yes um i want to love
00:36:26.740 my neighbor absolutely with the spiritual enemy right okay yep one quick thing i'm very glad you
00:36:33.860 said the word supernatural because that is coming up again and again it's not just that young men
00:36:38.900 and and former former lefties and former liberals want to have a nice thing to do on a sunday
00:36:44.180 morning and enjoy the church coffee and cookies after mass it is not that it is a drive to accept
00:36:50.920 and to embrace the mystical body of christ as you say this all the supernatural elements that is
00:36:56.500 driving people back into the church all right okay frank walker frank walker jenny holland is
00:37:04.460 absolutely right about this right and there is going to be a tension as these two spiritual
00:37:10.300 forces come into conflict this is the the the the people coming into the church now on fire
00:37:18.640 with faith are going to be met and we've been pointing this out for several months on the war
00:37:23.640 They're going to be met when they cross over the threshold of the church for the first time with priests, bishops, cardinals and popes who will make it absolutely clear to them they're not really actually wanted unless they're going to convert to conciliar come by ourism.
00:37:40.300 They're not actually going to be wanted to be taking seats on the pews.
00:37:46.060 Evidence number one, okay, evidence number one, and you were saying this from day one of the so-called pontificate, the present pontificate onwards.
00:37:55.980 The job of Leo, the reason why he was elected on the fourth scrutiny of the ballots was because he was the Dauphin selected by Francis to continue the Bergoglian recreation of the Catholic Church. 0.81
00:38:13.900 And nowhere is this more obvious and more in your face than where it comes to the area that affects the cash in the Vatican's pocket, which is the money that's coming into the church through the welcoming accoglienza, as we call it here in Italy, of illegal third world invaders.
00:38:36.920 and therefore Frank Walker drawing together everything we discussed in the
00:38:42.760 first half of the show and everything that Jenny's just been talking about the
00:38:46.520 revival, therefore what conclusion did you form when Pope Usurper VII went to
00:38:54.740 the Canary Islands in his visit to Spain last week and chastise basically Europe
00:39:03.260 continental Europe for being, and I quote, indifferent to migrants. My response to
00:39:12.780 the unholy father would be this. My dear chap, you can say many things about the
00:39:18.320 war room posse and our response to the illegal third world invasion, but
00:39:24.100 indifference is not one of them. We are absolutely not indifferent to this. He
00:39:29.700 called it the dock of shame he called it the dock of shame because of all the of all the uh invaders 1.00
00:39:37.420 that came in such huge numbers the spanish authorities couldn't put them all in tents 0.99
00:39:43.100 so some of them were left uh on the docks without free meals without hotel beds without showers
00:39:49.460 so um so so pope usurper the seventh said let's call it the dock of hope now rather than the
00:39:57.340 dock of shame it absolutely was a dock of shame but not in the way he thinks tell me what did he
00:40:02.660 say and what was your reaction to it well he said dignity dignity dignity the whole time and uh
00:40:09.000 and uh he threw a bouquet of flowers he yelled at everybody for not welcoming them he said we need
00:40:15.920 to spend money in in their home country so they're not forced to come here but if they're forced to
00:40:21.140 come here then why don't their brothers their parents why doesn't everybody come over here
00:40:25.180 And nobody is forced. They blamed us for that. You know, he repeated what Francis did in Lampedusa.
00:40:31.900 He sat in the shade. They all sat in the hot sun and they said, now we have hope because of Leo.
00:40:37.240 He listened to stories of migrants. He did something that's not reflected in this AP article here that we're discussing.
00:40:43.040 But he also shamed the human traffickers out there. And he even like condemned them as if they were going to go to hell.
00:40:50.200 He also condemned people that don't welcome migrants as if they're going to go to hell.
00:40:54.080 And they said, you're going to got someone will find out who you are, because that's not life.
00:40:59.120 As if abortion, the mass abortion is the same thing as not getting Muslims off a dock and putting them in a hotel.
00:41:08.460 You know, people are not forced to do these things. 0.88
00:41:11.880 And they also have a thing here.
00:41:13.180 It reminds me of the in the Canadian schools thing.
00:41:17.040 And they talk about all these unmarked graves out there in the ocean where all of these poor invaders have died, but they have different organizations that count the number.
00:41:27.760 I mean, there's even like invisible boats that have sunk that nobody knows about.
00:41:31.080 You know, it's all a big stunt.
00:41:33.880 And the Leo of hope, he will bring the hope because he brings the money.
00:41:37.500 You see, it's all about us paying for them, paying for them here, paying for them there, paying for them with our lives, paying for them with our neighborhoods.
00:41:45.840 That's what Leo is all about.
00:41:46.880 and it's got to be extremely unpopular i mean the religion of this is a religion that archbishop
00:41:52.360 weisenberger just uh you know displayed for everybody to see this has to be extremely
00:41:57.880 unpopular and like you're saying here that line has to be drawn and the media has to come and
00:42:03.520 reach all these shoots of people where that amount to maybe a couple per per mass you know they need 0.67
00:42:09.120 and frankly and that's not really yeah and frankly 99 of catholics that are standing by 0.74
00:42:17.580 and doing not very much need to need need to see that line drawn and they need to pick a side
00:42:23.380 just definitively for themselves to pick a side you bizarrely you know he he indicates that people
00:42:30.340 who aren't welcome who aren't compliantly accepting the dictates of the third world
00:42:38.780 illegal invasion um that as you point out people who aren't welcoming um are going to go to hell
00:42:46.200 you know he should say that how dare he frankly she should say that to jenny holland um who's
00:42:53.320 just who's last week was broadcasting live from the streets of belfast whose own community jenny
00:42:59.760 holland's own community is being turned into a hellscape hitting the here and now forget forget
00:43:06.660 judgment forget it the the invasion is turning all of our communities into hellscapes and he
00:43:13.540 all he's going to do is oh it's just crazy he's eating the church ben he's eating the church with
00:43:19.480 all these these these things that even you know jd van said i went to talk to the secretary of
00:43:24.140 state and all i did was you know just level these these banalities at me the whole time i couldn't
00:43:29.060 even get through to him there's like this wall you know and people do not respond well he was
00:43:33.560 he was offended he was offended and everybody's offended by what they're doing here this leo
00:43:38.480 religion is highly offensive and i i like what he said to the catholics if he means that they're
00:43:44.920 going to go after all the catholics not just the bishops you know because bring it on bring it on 0.98
00:43:49.940 bring it on everybody who excuse me bring it on let them come bring it on you see i'd rather go
00:43:59.880 to confession to father james martin than somebody in the sspx you know that says it right there and 0.82
00:44:05.540 if that's coming out of the chatting press they're going to go after actual catholics
00:44:10.000 if they go through with this and that's great i agree with you ben bring it on because look at
00:44:14.680 what we have here we have a we have a real mess and it doesn't represent people at all 0.98
00:44:18.740 not catholics and not normal people not green suits not anybody i mean we are already in the
00:44:24.300 middle of this right and what we're seeing coming out of northern ireland last week is only the
00:44:29.360 appetizer but when this really when this really kicks off i'll just throw this out now you go to
00:44:35.800 canon 212 every day come to the war room and if you're struggling to make sense of it i'm not
00:44:42.340 going to say we're right or we're infallible but we will at least give you a narrative that is
00:44:47.700 coherent and internally consistent
00:44:49.940 unlike
00:44:50.880 there is an underground catholic church
00:44:55.440 there is an underground catholic church
00:45:00.860 that's right
00:45:02.640 in China and here in the west
00:45:07.420 and the SSPX is probably going to go back to being underground
00:45:11.880 as well
00:45:12.760 now you mentioned JD Vance
00:45:15.300 mentioning in his new book
00:45:19.080 about his conversation
00:45:20.960 with the Cardinal Secretary of State
00:45:23.220 Pietro Parolin
00:45:24.960 and he said that that was
00:45:26.880 he said it was
00:45:29.040 platitudes. We'll go to
00:45:30.960 Jenny just for the last
00:45:32.520 couple of five minutes of the show. She's got the
00:45:34.740 background on that. First
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00:47:15.740 Vice President Vance does seem to be finding his
00:47:20.360 feet, at least on some of these issues. I was a little hesitant before
00:47:24.480 especially on the Catholic question because it seemed like he'd converted
00:47:28.240 straight into the concilia blancmange but
00:47:32.120 But in this new book that he's called out, he says when he famously went to go and see the late, unlamented Francis Pope, anti-Pope Francis Pope Usurper VI of unhappy memory, the day before he died, he said at least he was able.
00:47:55.800 He said in his very sick condition, at least he respected the Pope speaking in clear terms.
00:48:04.560 Unlike what he had the day before when he went to see the Cardinal Secretary of State, which is the Vatican's Prime Minister.
00:48:12.140 And he said he found it so unsettling that all Cardinal Parolin was doing seemed unwilling.
00:48:19.800 And I quote from the Vice President in his book.
00:48:23.420 He says, the Vatican seemed unwilling to move its moral guidance past the point of trite platitudes.
00:48:33.080 Well, anyone who's had any lifetime experience in the Catholic Church watching how it conducts politics
00:48:40.200 will be well familiar with the scandalously shameful trite platitudes which are coming out at every level of the Vatican hierarchy.
00:48:50.060 okay um jd vance is the u.s administration's highest profile catholic as he points out in
00:48:59.120 his book and he was surprised at the low level of engagement from the vatican what was your
00:49:04.320 you you've seen the excerpts now that are being picked up i think in the washington post
00:49:08.380 um what did you just we've got like three minutes left before we hit the end of the show just give
00:49:13.180 me 60 seconds what did you make of what jd vance said in his his new book were you
00:49:19.180 impressed surprised disappointed yes no i was i was very impressed i was very heartened actually
00:49:24.420 um if there's one word that i use more than elites it's platitudes when i when we were discussing
00:49:29.320 the uh catholic church position on things um yeah this is very interesting to me
00:49:35.120 what were we just saying moments ago converts are in are joining the catholic church for the full
00:49:43.100 fat version. We are not looking for skim milk. We don't want these platitudes. He actually says
00:49:51.840 something like, they're missing an opportunity to offer moral guidance and instead they are
00:50:00.500 turning out platitudes. That just absolutely hits the nail on the head. That's exactly what we talk
00:50:05.740 about almost every show and what we've been talking about all day today. The church, in my
00:50:13.360 understanding, is supposed to offer strong moral guidance. And what they're doing instead is they're
00:50:21.380 disappearing into the woodwork in a way so that they don't rock the boat, so that they don't
00:50:27.900 upset or annoy these powers that be, these globalist forces that want to impose an entirely
00:50:39.240 new moral and political structure on all of us that us hobbits don't want and have never wanted
00:50:47.160 and continually reject every time we're given the chance to. So, I mean, good for J.D. Vance
00:50:52.800 for saying this so clearly. And what is he? He is a young man. He's not Gen Z, but he's
00:50:57.520 millennial and he is a convert and he grew up in a hardscrabble town that has directly experienced
00:51:03.540 the industrialization so he is just the pinnacle of of all of the examples we talk about in terms
00:51:09.340 of the the new arrivals to the church um the book is communion communion finding my way back to the
00:51:18.700 faith that's it hit the end of the show now frank walker where do people go to keep up with you on
00:51:26.580 canon 212 and stumbling block and 212 and it's spelled out on twitter and also you can see the
00:51:33.200 daily update in the right column at rumble and aquaria tv and jenny holland where do people
00:51:39.020 come out to your increasingly where do they get to your increasingly viral
00:51:43.540 analysis on social media um twitter i am at semper femina 21 my sub stack is jenny e holland
00:51:53.240 dot substack dot com and on youtube i'm at at saving culture from itself we'll be back same
00:52:01.400 time next week steve back in the chair 10 a.m tomorrow as jenny holland said our plea to the
00:52:07.060 catholic hierarchy as reagan would have put it give us the bold primary colors not the pale
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