Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 1034： Leading German AfD-Adjacent Youth Newspaper Suppressed By WhatsApp 24 Hours After Coming On WarRoom

00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:00:07.000 Pray for our enemies.

00:00:09.000 Because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:12.000 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:17.000 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:19.000 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:20.000 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:00:22.000 but you're not going to stop it.

00:00:23.000 It's going to happen.

00:00:24.000 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:00:27.000 MAGA Media.

00:00:29.000 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:34.660 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:38.420 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:00:44.620 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.

00:00:48.020 Thursday 18th of June Anno Domini, 2026, Harnwell here at the helm on Steve Bannon's

00:01:03.520 Warren Mobile. Before we start the show proper today I have somewhat of a public service

00:01:10.760 announcement let's call it like that. For those of you active on Polymarket, over the

00:01:16.020 last 24 hours there's been an absolute scandal breaking out on one of the

00:01:22.140 trades, one of the markets. It was to do with permanent peace in between the

00:01:27.540 United States and Iran before a series of dates. For those of you who don't know

00:01:32.060 Polymarket, you're not interested in it, just stay with me for two minutes. And for

00:01:37.380 those of you however who are interested in this, and I know a lot of people sort

00:01:41.340 of do follow the show and take pointers off some of the analysis that comes out

00:01:45.420 there has been this is one of the pony market's largest trades actually in

00:01:53.460 terms of volume in the geopolitical sector for sure little less than half a

00:01:59.400 billion dollars have been traded on this and the scandal is effectively this I

00:02:04.440 mean that the criteria of resolution is what they called for an event contract

00:02:11.600 were quite specific. No permanent peace that explicitly ruled out by

00:02:17.660 definition temporary ceasefire extensions. Okay it was a permanent peace

00:02:26.060 fire. Now this is a message that I would like to get out to all the folks on

00:02:32.660 Polymarket. I'd be grateful for those who are active there if they clipped this

00:02:36.640 posted it and put it out on discord and wherever that it seems to be the case and this is the

00:02:45.740 suggestion is literally one person commenting after another on this talking about class action

00:02:51.400 lawsuits it seems to be the case that the adjudicating authority that polymarket uses to

00:02:59.140 decide whether an event contract has been resolved or not, called UMA, U-M-A, was

00:03:07.240 that the nine anonymous crypto wallets that had that vote were large holders

00:03:13.580 in the yes position. What I'd like, everybody I would like who has, who's

00:03:18.640 perhaps lost money on this, perhaps interested in getting together for class

00:03:22.720 action lawsuit contact me send an email to Ben at Harnwell dot IT for Italy

00:03:31.700 Ben at Harnwell dot IT get that message out and let's say I want to know I want

00:03:37.660 to hear from you do you think that the that the that the resolution criteria

00:03:43.660 were resolved and an underhand fashion perhaps you're concerned that the 98 or

00:03:50.620 99.8% of those votes from UMA came in before the text of the Memorandum of Understanding had even been released.

00:04:00.360 All these sorts of things. People are extremely agitated.

00:04:03.160 I'd like you to come here onto the war room, share that information with me, ben.harnwell.it.

00:04:10.040 A lot of anger there. I've been noticing this myself.

00:04:13.280 Some people have lost millions of dollars over this.

00:04:16.160 It would appear to be the case that on some of the larger markets,

00:04:21.720 polymarket isn't so much as a predictions market on specific events happening or not.

00:04:27.400 It's a prediction market is how will the adjudicating authority of URMA resolve?

00:04:34.120 Are they invested in one side of the position or not?

00:04:36.680 Big, big things, considering that a lot of newspapers these days

00:04:40.040 are going to the predictions markets for source material.

00:04:44.880 Okay, thanks for that. As I say, ben.harnwell.it for Italy. Please do get this clip out, get this message out to everyone who needs to see it. Invite them to contact me.

00:04:57.100 So on with the show. First guest of today is Vadim Dirksen, the senior editor of Junger Freiheit, who has been on the show many, many times before.

00:05:08.840 Vadim, thanks for coming on. We're going to be discussing two things today really related to the suppression of free speech in Germany.

00:05:18.820 Let's talk off. First of all, I gather that that your superb newspaper has been suppressed by Mark Zuckerberg's meta, specifically your channel on WhatsApp.

00:05:33.760 Is that correct? That's correct. Yes. I was the admin of this channel.

00:05:39.300 we we um established it was started the channel uh three years ago uh when the function was rolled

00:05:47.380 out and we gathered lots of people already and we were posting on a regular basis just our articles

00:05:54.500 and the last time i was here in the show i think i talked about a subject um where i have to be

00:06:02.680 very careful about the words i'm using i don't know where you're going to post all these videos

00:06:06.740 except x and other platforms uh but if i'm gonna talk about some or use some words they might be

00:06:15.380 blocked on meta anytime so it was the subject was uh we we just um reported uh some some outraged

00:06:25.860 parents came to us and they said the there's some dudes at our school funded by the government and 0.77

00:06:32.760 they show gay porn to our kids and uh we were reporting that we we we just uh 0.55

00:06:39.880 uh wrote an article about that and i posted this link onto our channel 0.93

00:06:47.720 uh the next morning i'm waking up uh uh usually what i do i check my whatsapp and i

00:06:53.720 i didn't get in it said it was blocked and then um i understood why immediately because that was

00:07:03.640 i saw the channel was deleted also i tried to get access from the different number i have a second

00:07:11.860 one and i was just dead so they not only deleted the whatsapp channel our official channel they

00:07:21.660 also deleted my private number where i was admin with so um all my contacts were now dead i could

00:07:30.980 not usually if you change your number you know how it works you get a new number you it automatically

00:07:37.360 notifies every uh contact of you that uh you have now a new whatsapp number and they can save it

00:07:44.400 i wasn't able to do that so this number belongs to me like 15 years i have good dear friends from

00:07:51.540 old times there and i cannot write them and tell them hey guys you can't reach out to me on this

00:07:58.220 other number or telegram or whatever this is dead

00:08:01.760 let me just let me just make sure i understand that are you drawing apart are you drawing are

00:08:13.000 you connecting dots here are you suggesting it was the fact that you came on the wall i remember

00:08:18.360 this it was it was like a month or so ago you were talking about the the the the the porn and

00:08:23.540 the lgbt uh indoctrination in schools i i remember it we had to we had to tone down the photos you

00:08:30.380 um you yourself if i remember correctly you you shaded over some the photos that they're showing

00:08:36.060 to kids in schools would were too graphic for us to be able to show on the war room are you telling

00:08:41.440 me that as a consequence of your appearance on the war room you believe your channel on whatsapp

00:08:48.840 younger freiheit's channel on whatsapp and your own personal uh profile were both cancelled within

00:08:55.020 24 hours of you appearing here on this show not about specifically that moment but we uh this

00:09:03.760 article this link which you uh from our website i posted it on the channel and it had all these

00:09:12.220 uh these these words and the buzzwords in there like pornography uh homosexual children and

00:09:22.040 everything like that so i think the the the algorithm snapped in the and they they deleted

00:09:31.220 it so the funny thing is hang on vadim yeah let me get this right let me get this right

00:09:37.520 so you posted to your channel on whatsapp your appearance on the war room that presumably it

00:09:45.720 was that it was either the x the clip for x or on twitter or the rumble or the other clip on rumble

00:09:51.820 one of those two clips you put out posted that on your channel and you think as a consequence

00:09:56.460 of that either innocently because of the words that were in the the the film or because of

00:10:03.360 political suppression your um your your channel uh was suppressed so the funny thing is we we get

00:10:11.960 lost i mean uh it might be zuckerberg but i also think it's more the eu who is blocking it under

00:10:19.440 So the appearance of child safety on the Internet, they block and delete sensitive information and they try to push the censorship on the social media networks.

00:10:41.020 So, just imagine, the government implements a law against child pornography.

00:10:50.540 This leads to the deletion and cancel of our news channel.

00:10:56.840 At the same time, they fund guys who go into the schools and show them the porn stuff, let's say, offline, just print it out and they hand about them and tell them and show them just pure, uncensored pictures.

00:11:15.580 So this is so absurd. I don't believe the government is really interested in healthy kids and sexual relationships, that they grow up in a healthy environment.

00:11:28.680 All they are about is just to censor all the alternative media and the social media, where we can, let's say, more or less speak freely about our issues in our countries.

00:11:43.320 and and this is what they try to block using children as their shield

00:11:49.000 um i couldn't agree with you more um and i'm glad you said this this is a point i make

00:11:57.160 repeatedly on the war room the the the half of these people right the global elites are

00:12:04.120 pedophiles anyway right that the last thing they are interested in doing is protecting

00:12:09.400 children that i think is pretty obvious it's a pretext they've been hammering on at apple

00:12:16.620 right it's a pretext they're using the protection of children as a pretext to diminish and dilute

00:12:27.040 privacy controls on people's phones because they want to know what we're saying and who we're

00:12:32.680 saying it to they want to monitor it they want to trace it our politicians they are childless

00:12:39.420 they don't have any children how do they know how to care about children how do they know how to

00:12:45.760 take care of to grow children if they are all childless it it's a the the the the it's a

00:12:53.180 pretext they are trying it's a backdoor pseudo innocuous pretext for them to take what few

00:13:02.000 genuine privacy protections that we have left because who's going to see who's going to come

00:13:07.480 out and say oh you know i'm for the the trafficking of photos of kiddie fiddlers um uh on uh on

00:13:15.520 smartphones no one's going to make that argument um because no one will make that argument because

00:13:20.280 you know it's about 0.00001 percent of the population that are interested in that

00:13:25.980 Everyone will be bullied into silence and they will therefore have full access to our phones.

00:13:31.820 It is so bad in the UK that the government can put a court order down and get backdoor entries via social media platforms to your private messages like on Twitter.

00:13:46.240 and when I say it's so bad

00:13:48.760 the court order will

00:13:50.840 prohibit you, the user, from ever

00:13:52.980 finding out that

00:13:54.720 there's been a court order

00:13:56.500 a snooping order against you

00:13:58.700 that's how bad it is in the UK

00:14:00.560 unfortunately people like Elon Musk

00:14:03.200 in the United States are saying I'm not in the UK

00:14:04.880 I don't have to obey this

00:14:05.780 if we get a court order insisting

00:14:08.960 access to people's DMs

00:14:10.720 I reserve full freedom

00:14:13.160 to talk about it

00:14:14.480 So you've got that aspect. You've got the case up in Massachusetts. No, where was it? Minnesota, excuse me. The state of Minnesota, a couple of weeks ago, under the pretext of wanting to clamp down on the prediction market platforms.

00:14:35.200 we were talking about that just a moment or so ago in a different context in the introduction,

00:14:39.760 have now effectively set up the legislation at the state level to prohibit the use of VPNs, right?

00:14:48.000 Good luck with that. 0.72

00:14:48.920 I mean, even China, unless you're going to follow the route of China and check people's phones

00:14:54.000 to see that they don't have VPN apps on, again, that's the pretext that they're using.

00:15:00.260 It's about protecting you, so therefore you won't be able to use a VPN, and they'll make that illegal, and they want access to DMs, and it's really a very subtle and perfidious way of the state realizing that it's losing political control, that the power is slipping away from them.

00:15:23.920 It gives them the instruments, all the instruments they need to persecute people who don't go along with their officially sanctioned thought.

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00:17:34.800 Well, continuing then the theme with Vadim Dirksen, senior editor of Jünger Freiheit, which is, I think, youth freedom in English.

00:17:45.640 Young freedom.

00:17:46.200 Young freedom. Thank you. I need to polish up on my German.

00:17:52.180 The state of Lower Saxony, which is basically, I think, the state in Germany where the AFD has its strongest showing in the polls.

00:18:01.880 if i'm if i'm not mistaken am i mistaken on that it's we have many uh states with with the name

00:18:09.540 saxony this is the lower saxony we have saxony anhalt and so on so and then we have only saxony

00:18:16.960 so yeah it's kind of confusing but the afd is also strong with 20 percent there in this

00:18:23.180 state so it's all beautiful all right all right okay i i need to brush up on my on my teutonic

00:18:30.300 geography um the state however and this is why it's going to be interesting i think for our

00:18:36.440 largely american audience on this one the state in lower saxony via its ministry for justice

00:18:42.880 um has set up this system which to me it sounds pretty much from the southern poverty law center

00:18:50.560 copy book which is basically you you get an article planted by a compliant left-wing journalist

00:18:58.460 And then you get an organ of the state to cite that article as an authoritative source as to why such and such an organization needs to be suppressed via the suggestion that it's really some kind of super right-wing agitating outfit.

00:19:21.800 And then you get, via more of these articles, which are then sourced and cited and directed to, you then start picking off those organizations that aren't necessarily in the same field as the populist, nationalist, right-wing organization, but perhaps in the conservative right-wing sphere.

00:19:43.800 For example, the guest that we're going to have on just after the break, and you say, look, this guy here, who's just like a moderate centre-right Christian Democrat or Conservative, that guy is beyond the pale because he's guilty by association with younger Freiheit.

00:20:06.800 And it's the whole infrastructure, the instruments of actually suppressing the free exchange of ideas and the free exchange of thought.

00:20:16.400 Vadim Dirksen, what exactly have you uncovered here with the Ministry of Justice in Lower Saxony?

00:20:22.980 What are they doing and how are they trying to clamp down on you and those who aren't necessarily fellow ideologues with you, but just willing to talk to you or be associated with you in public?

00:20:33.700 so the the problem is even deeper than uh you just mentioned what happened in the united states i

00:20:40.760 think uh this is a direct program of the ministry of justice so it's not just an ngo who is working

00:20:50.940 and then the the they use this information in the in the social uh or in the justice department

00:20:58.220 or whatever no it's a direct government program and it was originally the idea behind it was a

00:21:05.720 direct radicalization program um to support potentially violent extremists in avoiding

00:21:13.000 criminal activity and ruining their lives you know young guys uh raising on the streets becoming

00:21:20.100 neo-nazis you know and there's a wheel they they cannot get out so there's a program which tried

00:21:27.380 to help them but not only for them they're also more in extremes we know we have them also in the

00:21:34.080 muslim communities but also on the left side interestingly we don't have any program for 0.93

00:21:40.020 these groups just for the right wings um and um but but this program it's it's they they perverted 0.51

00:21:48.400 it into something where they try to control the minds of the people they now uh try to

00:21:56.020 teach the people or to explain

00:21:58.440 them how to find out

00:22:00.540 who is a right-wing extremist

00:22:02.620 and that's by

00:22:04.120 using some

00:22:06.160 emojis

00:22:07.620 wrongly. Have you ever used an

00:22:10.560 eagle as an emoji? That's

00:22:12.420 dangerous.

00:22:14.420 If you combine this eagle with the

00:22:16.380 German flag, that's just

00:22:18.060 oh, you're just

00:22:20.300 on the tip to become very extremist.

00:22:23.060 So, yeah, this is

00:22:24.460 the case what we are talking about and and the newspaper our newspaper but yeah the the only

00:22:31.260 emojis i use are the smiley face with the tears for something slightly amusing if it's really

00:22:37.740 amusing with a stream of tears running down um but i'm sure people want to say you know i need

00:22:42.240 i need to combine it with an eagle in the future vadim what i want to ask you about is this federal

00:22:48.280 agency for civic education right i mean that the the scare i mean that that seems to me i i think

00:22:56.380 very much as i was saying like the the the copy book of the southern poverty law center because

00:23:02.340 that's the website that is taking these left-wing articles as if they are objective i mean even if

00:23:09.740 they were objective journalistic um coverage you can't use that surely a government agency

00:23:15.920 cannot use that as justification for smearing things like Jünger Freiheit and I quote as right-wing extremists.

00:23:29.520 And the next trick that they do is they say, oh, well, here's how you know these guys are subversive

00:23:34.840 because they're also interviewing moderate politicians and SPD politicians who are on the left,

00:23:42.480 the social democrat party politicians on the left not according to the thesis because they're

00:23:49.820 interested in hearing alternative points of view it's just to confuse people and to hide the fact

00:23:55.240 behind a superficial moderacy of their nefarious right-wing agenda so i don't understand how do

00:24:01.560 you win according to these people if all you did was interview people on the right you'd be

00:24:07.040 suppressed because you're right-wing agitators if you also interview people on the left for the

00:24:13.120 contrary point of view that makes you even more dangerous because you're masking your crypto

00:24:19.180 pseudo-fascist exactly um agitation way out there's no way out there's no there's no way

00:24:26.520 you have no chance no you have no chance if you're a right-wing and they tell you that you're right

00:24:31.580 wing that's it anything you do now to justify yourself is just to hide that you're an actual

00:24:39.560 right wing so this is it's a pure it's pure catch-22 and here's the point okay here's the

00:24:48.140 point in um i mean i used to think that progressives strategizing on this was because

00:24:55.340 they genuinely believed that their political opponents wanted to overthrow the state and

00:25:01.400 impose some pseudo military dictatorship i no longer think i can't even give them the benefit

00:25:10.260 on the data this is a class of people that knows this time is up it knows that the people are

00:25:15.860 turning against them because they've been facilitating the third world illegal invasion

00:25:20.380 and they are now clamping they are now using the democratic norms that exist to protect the state

00:25:25.740 to suppress political opposition.

00:25:27.880 It is progressive fascism, plain and simple.

00:25:31.100 Vadim Dirksen, grateful as always for you to come on The War Room 0.52

00:25:34.820 and let us know what's happening in Germany.

00:25:37.600 Where do people go on social media whilst they still can

00:25:42.320 to read your output and perhaps give you some support?

00:25:48.820 You can find us at Junge Freiheit or Real Dirksen.

00:25:53.360 these are my two

00:25:55.300 OR

00:25:56.480 on X

00:25:58.240 so you can find us there

00:26:00.100 we're glad to have you there

00:26:02.280 join us

00:26:03.120 and yeah

00:26:04.740 thank you for having me

00:26:06.240 and what you might want to do

00:26:08.900 and it's what I do

00:26:09.740 whenever I go

00:26:10.380 go on to Younger Freiheit

00:26:11.500 is I just

00:26:12.140 in my browser

00:26:12.960 I click my

00:26:13.860 translate button

00:26:15.040 to flick it from

00:26:16.100 the whole page

00:26:17.140 from German

00:26:17.840 to English

00:26:18.580 and it's all there

00:26:19.500 absolutely free

00:26:20.720 and it's

00:26:22.220 really sort of

00:26:23.240 I think one of the great organisations that are there in Germany

00:26:26.580 telling people what's actually happening.

00:26:28.460 And it is terrifying.

00:26:30.060 It's progressive fascism that is building up

00:26:33.520 in the name of suppressing fascism.

00:26:37.100 Ironic but true.

00:26:38.500 Folks, don't go away.

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00:31:46.600 Hello, America's Voice family.

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00:32:24.180 interviewing people on the war room a lot of times i'm learning things from people i have a natural

00:32:31.820 inclination to share certain points of width sometimes it's more robust in in terms of well

00:32:39.020 know there isn't a natural framework of agreement. I remember that last time I

00:32:45.860 guessed Gunther Ferlinger-Jahn came on the show, a lot of engagement on social

00:32:52.100 media there. Gunther's been good enough sport to come back on the show. You'll

00:32:56.420 remember Gunther as the long-standing Secretary General of the Association of

00:33:02.360 small and medium sized enterprises for the European People's Party which is

00:33:09.240 the supranational organization across the European Union that the largest

00:33:15.720 party in the European Parliament representing the Christian Democratic

00:33:22.100 iterations which is not our group by the way

00:33:27.340 warming policy just to remind you um we're very much the next stage along from that we large we

00:33:33.940 like to blame christian democracy traditional long-standing christian democracy for a lot of

00:33:39.480 the problems that we're facing with the european union today but you're speaking your own

00:33:45.220 excuse me 20 years ago we were close friends remember that the conservatives from america

00:33:53.380 and from Europe we're united

00:33:54.760 in the IDU, in the International Democratic

00:33:57.560 Alliance, we are still actually

00:33:59.100 and we should be

00:34:00.340 and we are friends

00:34:02.740 I was working

00:34:05.100 in the European Parliament 20 years

00:34:07.460 ago

00:34:07.800 it was somewhat

00:34:09.800 a marriage of convenience

00:34:13.260 the British Conservatives with the 0.81

00:34:15.520 European People's

00:34:17.860 Party, however, that's just to say

00:34:19.620 Gunther's here in his own personal

00:34:21.620 capacity this evening

00:34:23.100 um to to share some of his his provocations with us but let's get first of all i'm going to be

00:34:31.300 picking through your through this very provocative article that you've put out um uh on substack i'm

00:34:39.200 not sure i mean you are the chairman of the austrian committee for nato enlargement and i

00:34:43.640 think that gives you a certain position there we go uh in in your thesis here in austria must join

00:34:50.780 NATO. Great, we'll give the details out in a quarter of an hour's time just

00:34:58.160 after the show. So obviously you're quite passionate about Austrian entry,

00:35:07.560 eventual entry into NATO. I'm not sure it's going to happen but there is a

00:35:11.780 consistent, that is a very strong position, you know, that is a position

00:35:15.800 the British Conservatives, like yourself, absolutely believe that NATO is the instrument

00:35:22.920 that has secured peace in Europe following the Second World War. I'm one of these people

00:35:29.280 that thinks NATO, following the fall of the Berlin War, NATO is really more of a threat

00:35:37.660 to world peace than a guarantor of world peace, but we can have that conversation. Perhaps

00:35:42.960 we'll get into it a little later. What I want to get here with you is that you have, putting the

00:35:50.780 Austrian issue to one side for a moment, you have got your teeth into poor old tiny neutral Ireland

00:35:58.720 and you have suggested that unless Ireland joins NATO, it's currently outside of NATO, it's never

00:36:07.800 been in, unless Ireland joins NATO, it needs to be expelled from the European Union. That's a very

00:36:15.080 provocative thesis and you've listed, I think, seven points here on precisely what your opposition

00:36:22.040 is. But tell me, why Ireland? Poor little Ireland, neutral Ireland. What is your, in your own words,

00:36:31.560 You seem to be suggesting that not being a member of NATO,

00:36:35.920 but implicitly staying under the umbrella of the surrounding nations who are members,

00:36:42.840 that NATO, presumably by extension Switzerland as well, you could make that argument,

00:36:48.600 Austria perhaps as well, you'd make that argument, I'm sure,

00:36:51.280 they're somewhat freeloading off the other European nations that are paying members of NATO.

00:36:57.500 Yeah, Ireland is not able to defend itself at all.

00:37:03.300 Ireland is spending a minimum, a half of a percentage only on defense.

00:37:08.200 And what they are doing is grandstanding on the global stage. 0.74

00:37:12.320 Look at the Palestinian issue. 0.86

00:37:14.600 Ireland is like a step back stepping America and Britain on all the global issues.

00:37:21.080 And when it comes to Ukraine, for example, and they have this aluminum factory, which

00:37:25.380 It was recently discovered supplying Russia in the war.

00:37:29.520 So what they are doing is extremely immoral, receiving subsidies from us Europeans while

00:37:36.140 freeloading on all aspects and being protected by the Americans and the British while working 0.92

00:37:41.660 behind our backs with the Palestinians, the Arabs, and with the Russians.

00:37:47.080 And you know, this might be nice guys when you meet them personally.

00:37:51.780 But as a nation, Ireland is the perfidious, immoral, anti-solidarity backstepper you really don't want to have as a friend.

00:38:00.760 And you don't want to have them in the European Union because such people we don't need.

00:38:05.320 We don't need Ireland. Goodbye. 0.99

00:38:07.700 Well, well, first of all, you talk about the freeloading aspect.

00:38:12.680 But of course, the War Room's audience is mostly American.

00:38:18.060 It is an international audience, but it is also mostly lion's share of our audience is American.

00:38:23.720 They'll be listening to you talk, Gunther, and they'll be thinking, well, hang on a minute.

00:38:27.520 It's us. It's us, American taxpayers, that's subsidizing all of European defense, NATO and otherwise.

00:38:36.760 you know so isn't that also the case that we europeans here in continental europe are freeloading

00:38:45.200 off the back of um of american taxpayers whether we're in nato or not whether we're contributing

00:38:51.300 but we europeans also spend 400 billions it's not as much as you do but we also take it very

00:38:59.320 seriously look at poland for example poland is almost spending five percent of its gdp not even

00:39:04.820 america does that and when you look they have just now relaunched the procurement program of 33

00:39:10.020 billion this is enormous and that's very effective look at the ukraine it's taking defense extremely

00:39:15.780 seriously and they are very capable and look at the germans they just raised 500 billion

00:39:21.140 additional debt in order to rearm their country and it's a powerful army they are building and so 1.00

00:39:27.220 you know you really should go to the ones which are the problem like the austrians like the irish

00:39:32.580 like the spanish as well they are also backstabbing socialists but not europeans yeah all europeans

00:39:40.740 is simply not correct because we have many good europeans who are standing with america

00:39:46.100 who are supporting you who are hoping for american leadership and also defeating the russians and

00:39:51.860 they're doing a lot on that one and you should look case by case country by country which is a

00:39:57.380 a good country doing their share and which is a bad country like the irish or the multis and the

00:40:04.100 spanish socialists um i think you see you're one of the few people that will actually engage with

00:40:14.360 me on the whole of the nato issue here you're what you just said about poland is exactly the point

00:40:22.120 It is good and necessary that they're spending so much on their national defense, 5% of their GDP, because they are living next door to Russia. 0.69

00:40:32.020 The problem is, the reality is, post fall of the Berlin Wall and the dissolution of the USSR, the reality is this. The risk is asymmetric across the Western nations, across the Western NATO nations. 0.90

00:40:52.860 The risk is asymmetric. I mean, I don't consider it particularly high probability, but there's a non-zero risk that Russia might invade Poland.

00:41:05.620 There is a statistical zero risk that Russia will invade the United States. 0.65

00:41:11.540 So it's wise for Russia and the Eastern Europeans to be spending a little bit more.

00:41:17.160 So the risk is asymmetric. But if you contrast that Gunther Ferlinger yarn, not only is the risk asymmetric, but the financial contributions are asymmetric as well.

00:41:30.740 Because as we were just saying a moment or so ago, America is paying by far the largest share of proportion and contributions into NATO. An analogous situation would be like me being a drinker and a smoker, I don't know, a drug addict, going to next door where they're teetotal fitness freaks and saying that they've got to pay for my health insurance.

00:41:56.380 Well, they say, well, of course, Hanwell, why should we pay for your health insurance?

00:42:00.200 Because the risk is asymmetric.

00:42:02.160 And I say, because you're a lot richer.

00:42:03.700 And they say, well, that doesn't make any sense.

00:42:05.860 I really think that the argument for the existence of NATO, its moment has passed.

00:42:12.240 And your argument to say that, well, you know, it's all fair because Poland is paying 5%.

00:42:16.580 Good. I'm glad Poland is paying 5%. 0.99

00:42:19.500 I think the UK should be paying zero and it should leave. 0.97

00:42:23.120 I think America should be paying zero and it should leave.

00:42:25.900 And I think Austria, your beloved homeland, actually has the right position, which is neutrality.

00:42:34.120 You say here in your article that neutrality is not a virtue.

00:42:41.920 You said it's opportunism.

00:42:44.240 I couldn't disagree more.

00:42:45.820 I think neutrality is the virtue.

00:42:49.260 It's the warmongering which is the opportunism.

00:42:53.740 let me put that to you neutrality is a parasite island ireland yes i totally agree with my own

00:43:02.500 and it should be punished i hope that the listeners you know there were many americans

00:43:09.860 were in solidarity with ireland because of the past but today it's absolutely just unjustified

00:43:15.980 please yeah this is totally immoral what they are doing and i want the americans to know that

00:43:21.780 To know that, you know, there's a big difference between Ireland, which spends basically nothing on defense, and Poland, Estonia, Lettland and other countries, which are taking the defense and the time of war very seriously and are also very grateful to America.

00:43:37.960 And we believe in NATO. We believe in American leadership in NATO.

00:43:42.600 We want a strong America. We want a strong America as the city on the hill, the defender of freedom in the world.

00:43:49.340 And we will win and we will defeat our enemies.

00:43:52.640 You will see Ukraine is winning now and you can be part of this story.

00:43:56.760 Ukraine will also join NATO. So will Bosnia, Kosovo and many other countries.

00:44:01.100 And it will be the greatest alliance of the free world ever.

00:44:04.020 and America can be proud to have it, to let it, and you will be very successful in it.

00:44:10.320 And this is also the cornerstone of our whole global system of the freedom and prosperity of America

00:44:16.380 is the security created and stabilized by NATO, and it will be lasting forever.

00:44:22.160 This is the greatest alliance in history, and we can all be proud, and it will be enlarged.

00:44:27.780 There will be Israel member of NATO.

00:44:30.100 There will be many, many more countries member of NATO.

00:44:33.080 Have at it, have at it, have at it, all the countries that feel that there is a risk, have at it, pool your resources and stand forward proudly providing for your own defence.

00:44:50.000 But NATO, its moment, I'm so sorry to tell you this, my dear chap, NATO's moment has passed, right?

00:44:57.480 30 years ago, we had the dissolution of the Warsaw Pact, and now it is time for NATO to go in the same direction.

00:45:06.080 Folks, back with Gunther Ferlinger-Yuan in two minutes after this quick ad break.

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00:47:43.540 All right, we've got five minutes on the show left with Gunther Ferlingate-Yarn.

00:47:49.340 gunter um you know sadly we've got no left time time left for your um for your outrageous nature

00:47:57.360 agitations and provocations what we do want to hear is you were quite strong against the irish

00:48:06.980 um listen when i put out something on x i'm lucky if i get five ten thousand people i saw you got a

00:48:13.260 tweet that you got like two million hits for this you have been really quite impolite to our 0.86

00:48:22.480 neighbors the irish i think you called them a disgusting people and you've also got it in 0.94

00:48:28.220 for um for spain slovakia tell us uh what what did the poor irish ever do to austria 0.66

00:48:37.860 look i'm a conservative activist and i hate socialists in spain who are stepping us in back 0.51

00:48:46.000 and our allies israel they are stepping them in the back daily with all their palestinian policy

00:48:51.920 and also they are not really supportive of ukraine and they have not recognized kosovo

00:48:56.940 so the spanish i'm finished with them and also the irish are a similar chapter they are selling

00:49:02.420 their products of the aluminum to the Russians in the time of war.

00:49:06.340 This is high treason.

00:49:07.840 And then they are behaving very racistly and negatively. 0.80

00:49:11.740 And they are neutrals, they are not spending money on their defense, and they are insisting

00:49:16.020 on their neutrality.

00:49:17.480 So I have no patience left for people who are in wartime acting as traitors.

00:49:23.100 And this may be Americans, it may be Spanish, it may be Irish, who is a traitor and who

00:49:29.320 is not supporting ukraine must be punished and at least on my twitter account i make it very clear

00:49:34.760 we have enemies in iran we have enemies in russia we have enemies in china and we as the west as 0.56

00:49:41.160 the free world must stand together and we must win these wars it's a triple war we are in against 0.89

00:49:46.920 russia china and iran we must win and if we don't win our enemies will win so we have to also fight

00:49:55.640 the enemy within the socialists and neutralists the immorals the protectionist the isolationist

00:50:01.640 in america the ones who are stepping us in the back in america the anti-semites and the people

00:50:08.200 who are against the pre-world in the maga movement the people who sign mous with iran and the people

00:50:15.960 who are basically like gd vans yeah basically against ukraine and in favor of iran there's

00:50:22.680 something fundamentally wrong with these people in their brains and unfortunately some of them

00:50:27.320 have managed because of the lack of ideological debate even in the highest positions of power

00:50:32.280 they came in america again to fight all our enemies internally and externally and we will win

00:50:39.640 our wars against russia iran and china victory is us wrong again join us again there's hope for you

00:50:48.440 Wrong again. You see, this is why Christian democracy in the European Union is failing, right? 0.99

00:50:55.660 For this, for this reason. You can stand by with your beloved Christian Democratic Party as you sit there in Vienna 0.98

00:51:03.360 and just watch the Freedom Party just take all your votes and all the positions, all the electoral positions.

00:51:10.640 This is why, right? This is why. The argument has moved on.

00:51:13.940 and you throw in some anti the only the the only thing i liked about what you said was the

00:51:19.700 anti-socialism because that's really sort of all you guys have left look you've got that book

00:51:25.700 over your over your shoulder i'm sure you want to mention it thanks a lot it's my new book about

00:51:32.540 austria joining nato and i really recommend everybody who speaks german to buy it because

00:51:38.360 austria should join nato all countries should join nato and america must return fully in the spirit

00:51:44.920 of nato we are together and we can defeat our enemies and if it's necessary push these books

00:51:51.960 on our enemies folks if you want to if you want to read a catalog of everything you vehemently

00:52:00.120 disagree with by the book right it's by the brain in everything in that

00:52:06.240 ireland in nato dipros in nato none of this none of this is going to happen

00:52:13.240 none of this is going to happen nato's job is done thank you so

00:52:18.040 gunter ferlinger yarn that's your email address that's your your presence there

00:52:22.940 on x gunter ferlinger at x outrageous gratuitous trawling and

00:52:28.040 provocations you'll find them there at the top of your feed but you're a good sport you're willing

00:52:32.380 to come on the war room and for that i thank you that's it all we've got time for steve back in

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