Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 1039： RYAN BRIDGE Gives First-Hand Witness Testimony： These Ain’t Women And Children Coming Across

00:00:00.000 I'm reading this statement on behalf of Ryan Bridge. I've raised the colours.

00:00:05.280 Today I attended the High Court in relation to proceedings brought by

00:00:08.940 Oxfordshire County Council. I want to make it clear that I respect the court

00:00:12.840 process and will comply fully with any order made by the court. I have chosen

00:00:17.580 not to oppose an injunction preventing me from attaching flags to highway

00:00:21.240 structures in Oxfordshire because I do not intend to continue doing so. Most

00:00:25.800 people recognise that in situations such as this the process often becomes the

00:00:29.980 punishment. Defending this injunction at significant personal cost would achieve little and would

00:00:35.580 not benefit our nation in the slightest. Ryan at razorcolours.org.uk. We're absolutely,

00:00:43.100 I can't believe what we're witnessing. We're out here over a mile off the shore over this bank.

00:00:50.540 We've got to these migrants on the boat and we've chased quite a few off. These aren't, 0.97

00:00:55.820 these aren't um women and children these are these are fighting men

00:01:03.420 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going

00:01:10.940 medieval on these people here's i got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the

00:01:17.740 people have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do

00:01:21.740 everything in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where

00:01:25.260 Where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:01:28.460 MAGA Media.

00:01:29.800 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:01:35.220 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:01:38.980 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:01:45.180 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

00:01:55.260 Friday, 26th of June, Anno Domini, 2026.

00:02:00.860 Harnwell here at the helm on Steve Bannon's Warren.

00:02:03.900 Folks, don't know how we did it.

00:02:05.600 We made it yet again to the end of the week.

00:02:09.120 What a week it's been.

00:02:10.120 I'll tell you who almost didn't quite make it,

00:02:12.200 and that's Ryan Bridge, great beloved figure

00:02:16.020 in the English nationalist patriotic movement.

00:02:20.620 The opening statement there, I think, was that read by your lawyer?

00:02:25.260 outside London's High Court,

00:02:29.320 the UK press right now dominated by the fact

00:02:32.880 that Oxfordshire County Council,

00:02:35.900 the council that had prohibited raise the colours

00:02:39.060 from putting up the St. George's flag,

00:02:43.800 had successfully sought and obtained

00:02:47.480 a High Court injunction blocking you.

00:02:50.260 And there's more to develop here on what actually happened

00:02:54.160 because it's not quite as media is spinning it.

00:02:57.680 It's far more of a blanket ban

00:03:00.340 and a hat tip to the British judiciary.

00:03:05.360 I think that the judge himself,

00:03:07.240 from everything I can gather, Ryan,

00:03:09.320 was actually sort of went out of his way

00:03:11.960 to be seen to be treating you fairly.

00:03:14.760 And I think he did that as far as he could.

00:03:17.780 Tell us what happened in the British High Court

00:03:21.160 then this week regarding you.

00:03:24.160 Raise the Colours, and Oxfordshire County Council?

00:03:28.420 So obviously we had the issues in Oxfordshire

00:03:30.920 where we were raising our beautiful flags

00:03:33.320 and the Liberal Democrats who were in power there,

00:03:37.980 they decided that they didn't like what we were doing.

00:03:40.500 The Green Party are also there.

00:03:42.340 They decided they didn't like it

00:03:43.920 in different districts of the councils

00:03:45.840 and they put this injunction against...

00:03:48.540 Well, they opposed to put an injunction against us.

00:03:50.640 We opposed the injunction

00:03:52.040 and we just left the area, didn't think no more of it.

00:03:56.220 I'd been to Oxford twice and erected flags on lampposts

00:04:01.380 to show patriotism after the horrible atrocities 0.97

00:04:04.740 of what's happening in the UK with the illegal boat crossings

00:04:07.500 to show people's support.

00:04:09.180 And these people decided to take it on themselves

00:04:12.420 to use the council funding, all voted 311 statements

00:04:16.080 to take us to the Royal High Court of Justice in London,

00:04:20.200 which is the highest court in the land,

00:04:22.040 This blows your magistrates, your Crown Courts out the window.

00:04:25.880 It was with a High Court judge who actually said,

00:04:29.220 what the hell is this case being brought before me for to them?

00:04:31.940 So we sat there and I represented myself because of funding.

00:04:37.160 The guy that was there with me, he did look like a legal guy,

00:04:40.140 but he's actually just a father, a brother, a dad.

00:04:44.180 He's one of the guys that foots the ladders when we put the flags up.

00:04:48.220 And we sort of all put our suits on and went down there.

00:04:50.940 and opposed what's going on.

00:04:54.400 And they said, like, this could be very, very costly for you.

00:04:58.400 And we just decided to ourselves that we're going to have to accept

00:05:02.660 that we can't erect flags on lampposts in the county of Oxfordshire.

00:05:07.340 But the result that we got was that we also then,

00:05:12.120 I also put to them, because obviously I represented myself

00:05:14.980 and you've got all the big wigs there and, you know,

00:05:16.620 the British justice system, it's, you know,

00:05:18.980 it's old-fashioned British values, which I respect.

00:05:21.960 And they just commended me on that.

00:05:24.240 And he said, so, have you got anything else to say?

00:05:26.600 I said, well, it's not just the flag of the UK,

00:05:29.420 but hopefully this is going to be the rainbow flag.

00:05:33.660 It's also going to be the Palestinian flag.

00:05:35.940 And any of the flags of any of the conflicts that are going on

00:05:39.420 is, you know, in sort of the Gaza-Israeli thing,

00:05:44.820 the Ukraine-Russia thing.

00:05:46.740 And I said, well, it's got to be across the board

00:05:48.420 and we actually got that imposed.

00:05:49.780 So at least, you know, it's not one rule for one.

00:05:53.960 Like, we know Britain is two-tier.

00:05:56.760 Now, for sure, the police are two-tier.

00:06:03.140 Great to see that the magistracy isn't,

00:06:07.000 at least not on this case.

00:06:09.060 Now, what you're saying here is very different

00:06:11.700 from how the British press is spinning this,

00:06:15.520 Because if you're reading The Guardian or the BBC's articles reporting this, it sounds like the High Court, in granting the injunction to Oxfordshire County Council, prohibited you guys from raising the St. George's flag.

00:06:36.760 But in fact, it's an across-the-board prohibition now.

00:06:40.500 tell me the first thing that i say so no so no so no palestinian flags no rainbow flags nothing

00:06:46.720 no flags whatsoever tell me now a couple of things here uh because i've been wading through some of

00:06:52.860 your own um releases here um and that's really where the information is it's not in the press

00:06:58.340 articles it's in some of the things you did a very good interview i think with a colleague of yours

00:07:03.100 inside the court itself a lot of details emerged from that for example the judge who held this

00:07:10.100 he was called in that day simply to hear this case that was the only case in his agenda for

00:07:16.820 this day secondly the injunction only applies to council property right it's not a prohibition

00:07:24.260 it applies only to the council's property what would happen if the council on its own authority

00:07:32.040 wanted to be able to raise a gay pride flag or a palestinian solidarity flag would they be able

00:07:39.660 to do that well it looks like they can sort of do what they like because when you're in the county 0.84

00:07:45.480 of oxfordshire um obviously the zebra crossings that are there and it's you know it's black white

00:07:51.220 black white zebra crossing and you know the crossings for pedestrians they've actually

00:07:56.140 changed them now to rainbow crossings so and the council have actually stopped traffic

00:08:01.800 got these painted and i think how are they spending the public's money on things like this

00:08:07.680 and we're putting a flag up to show a bit of patriotism,

00:08:10.800 a bit of old traditional British values,

00:08:13.360 yet they are spending council tax money on rainbow flags,

00:08:19.400 rainbow, you know, painting zebra-plossings.

00:08:24.020 And I just think it's just completely,

00:08:26.920 I just think it's completely wrong.

00:08:29.300 I think it's a completely shame,

00:08:30.620 a shame for the British public in Oxfordshire

00:08:33.380 that do like the flag and do know why we're there

00:08:35.720 and did support us.

00:08:36.940 and i i just think that these people tried to get a legal injunction against me so that i would get

00:08:42.260 arrested so that i would get fined so that i would get possibly imprisonment and these and i said to

00:08:48.520 the judge is it death if i say to you now it's not law if i say to you know i will not put flags up

00:08:54.020 in oxfordshire and i'll make a promise to that to this court is that going to be enough and he went

00:08:58.460 oh yes so i haven't physically got an injunction but the thing that upsets me is is that these

00:09:04.700 people in the in the news agencies wouldn't report that birmingham live and companies like

00:09:10.920 and news outlets like that that are against me 24 7 they won't report on that at all yet they'll

00:09:16.940 report uh bridge raised the colors stopped from flagging in oxford and it's just not true because

00:09:23.920 the truth is is that we come to an agreement and i said okay we won't put no more flags up

00:09:29.500 in Oxford I said but that's got to be you know across the board for all flags um it ended up

00:09:35.720 the judge was quite nice he commended us on how he was and he was a real nice guy in the end

00:09:39.300 and and I think even the way they got this judge in he only had one case for the day which was us

00:09:44.380 um they I don't know if they picked them I don't know how it works at the Royal High Court of

00:09:48.560 Justice but he was a human rights um specialist judge so I think that sort of I think they

00:09:56.020 favoured that and the courtroom was packed full of journalists yet it's had hardly any coverage

00:10:00.720 of the truth because of the outcome incredible um but it is great to hear that the british court

00:10:09.740 system um i do particularly enjoy hearing when the british court system works well living in

00:10:16.340 another european country where we where we don't even have i mean i i guess this wasn't a trial

00:10:21.520 with the jury but where in italy here whether where it's very unusual to have a jury trial

00:10:26.760 um it's it's a it's an ongoing horror story um let me ask you because you talk about the money here

00:10:32.240 um and you mentioned in your opening statement uh your press statement in front of the the court

00:10:38.680 that um it was just basically not worth the resources fighting this um but let me ask you

00:10:45.280 are you able via freedom of information request to find out how much oxfordshire county council

00:10:54.340 spent in legal fees in taking you to court a very very good question now i'm back in court

00:11:02.980 for that very answer on the 9th of july so you guys will get this story first we will find out

00:11:08.860 how much money they've wasted of um taxpayers and council taxpayers money in oxfordshire

00:11:14.340 on taking me to court when I simply complied and said,

00:11:18.920 no problem, we won't put flags up on landposts in Oxfordshire.

00:11:21.940 So I don't want this to set precedence across the country

00:11:25.180 because we will take this to a fight.

00:11:27.820 But people that go to the Royal High Courts of Justice,

00:11:31.860 you're talking superstar celebrities, Jamie Vardy, Rebecca Vardy,

00:11:36.900 the Rooney family, Wayne Rooney's wife, you know, Katie Vardy,

00:11:40.760 even Princess Diana was there.

00:11:42.160 and I don't think any of these people have come out with results from there.

00:11:46.460 So for me to go there, it was a scare tactic, I believe,

00:11:51.140 and I think it was to scare myself,

00:11:53.260 but I think mainly it was to scare the public in the UK

00:11:55.800 to say, stop putting flags up on lampposts

00:11:58.460 because this is snowballing through communities

00:12:01.420 and it's absolutely beautiful to see what everyone's doing

00:12:04.760 around the country off the back of Raise the Colours.

00:12:09.400 I'm looking now at the calendar head.

00:12:11.120 9th of July is a Thursday.

00:12:14.040 I wonder if we can sort of start seeing

00:12:15.940 if we can get you on the show on Thursday itself

00:12:18.760 to talk about that, book that straight away.

00:12:23.260 I wonder whether I would be particularly interested

00:12:26.780 to find out in the event

00:12:28.700 whether the judge offered you that sort of compromise

00:12:31.820 where you just agree not to do it anymore

00:12:34.660 to raise flags in Oxfordshire

00:12:36.140 specifically so that you won't therefore be liable

00:12:38.940 if there's no injunction granted against you formally,

00:12:42.360 to see whether that would free you from having to cough up these,

00:12:47.220 what are going to be substantial, presumably, legal fees?

00:12:50.960 Obviously, because there's no legal aid,

00:12:55.120 so this is all funded by the defendant,

00:12:57.740 and then I would then inherit the costs of the council.

00:13:01.460 So in doing so, we was getting quotations,

00:13:04.160 and that was like if you know starting was a hundred thousand pounds sterling and to win it

00:13:12.560 they were saying it's up to like 180 000 and i'm just thinking i just don't you know it's i haven't

00:13:18.860 got the resources for that um we need to carry on doing um the good work in other areas and i think

00:13:25.860 we just unfortunately there's there's battles and wars and um i think that it's all about managing

00:13:33.320 resources it's all about it's all success is all about um the prudentially deciding where to direct

00:13:40.880 limited resources listen i'm going to go give a quick shout out to our sponsor of the first half

00:13:47.560 of the show but before i do that let me just ask you a question um because you said that you

00:13:53.580 represented yourself something that i i don't have the guts to do here in italy in my own legal

00:13:59.180 things how easy was that for you to find out what to brief yourselves on the technicalities

00:14:05.640 and to go in there i guess they had the horsehair wigs right um yeah how easy was it yeah for you to

00:14:12.020 do that technically yeah so yeah you know it's gowns and horsehairs wigs and and and all of that

00:14:17.780 it was actually one of the hottest days in the year so i relaxed it um but i researched it i've

00:14:25.220 got a great team behind me in the background and and the unfortunate and the real sad thing is that

00:14:30.440 raised the colors is there's so many people behind the scenes that sadly i can't name them to give

00:14:35.680 them reconciliation um reconciliation of how good they are and what a valid what what valid people

00:14:41.180 they are for the country and behind the scenes what they're doing and it's because they're scared

00:14:45.500 of losing their jobs because they will be called far-right fascist nazi all these horrible things

00:14:52.200 and they will lose their jobs because that's how this country is going

00:14:55.860 if you love the flag of your country.

00:14:57.900 So off the backing of the people in the background behind me,

00:15:02.260 we got some prepared stuff done.

00:15:05.340 We've done a lot of stuff through Google and chat and things like that.

00:15:10.800 And we got to where we need to be.

00:15:12.460 But I've got some very clever people in the background behind me

00:15:15.480 and we had a good down course.

00:15:19.100 It wasn't all bad. 0.98

00:15:20.300 But these people, to take me, you know, little old me to the High Court in London is ridiculous.

00:15:27.680 And the folders that they had from Oxford, the council team, the council were there.

00:15:32.720 Their team of lawyers were there.

00:15:34.320 Their barristers were there.

00:15:35.880 They had boxes and boxes and files.

00:15:38.160 And I thought, these guys really want to fight.

00:15:41.100 And it didn't go that way for them.

00:15:42.820 It didn't go that way for the press because the courthouse was packed.

00:15:46.960 And I didn't give them the fight they wanted.

00:15:50.060 hang on hang on it's not that these guys really want to fight it's that these guys really want to

00:15:56.360 bankrupt you because they all these lawyers these top lawyers they're all on billable hours right

00:16:01.900 and so you give them all these shoe boxes full of full of papers they're hoping their great

00:16:07.440 anticipation was whether they'd be able to finish you off financially they couldn't put you in prison

00:16:12.060 right um if they couldn't suppress you they they would they would bankrupt you i i'm fairly 100%

00:16:18.820 sure that that was their strategy. Ryan, stay with me. Back with you in just 60 seconds.

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00:18:49.820 Then they get given their bags with a life vest on

00:18:53.000 and it's too emotional

00:19:02.160 great okay so there you are where were you where particularly was that beach that you were

00:19:13.300 this week um coughing up seawater for the sake of your country yes that was a previous video that

00:19:20.160 was in um a place called gravel lines which is in between calais and dunkirk um and we we put that

00:19:27.580 out there this week so that people know that the reason we're doing the flags isn't to upset people

00:19:32.180 from other communities it's to show that the people are going on these small boat dinghies

00:19:38.180 in shallow water and getting tugged out to the 12 mile line and handed over to our

00:19:45.780 authorities and they are shipping them in and these people are illegal and they're a danger

00:19:51.560 and they're a threat we don't know who they are what they've got where they're from these people

00:19:55.900 aren't fleeing war-torn countries so france isn't at war france is safe germany's safe but these

00:20:03.340 people want to get to england for the end goal and that is to get the fruits of our country

00:20:07.900 and we believe that completely british values are being lost and that's why we're flying the flag

00:20:12.880 so we just had to remind people

00:20:14.660 that this can be stopped

00:20:16.600 and I was there to prove it

00:20:18.000 and there you go

00:20:20.460 it's an upsetting video

00:20:21.880 you see this is why Raise the Colours

00:20:24.960 it has become

00:20:26.240 especially since I've had the honour

00:20:28.920 of talking to you

00:20:30.180 every other week here on the war

00:20:32.020 it's probably become my favourite activist

00:20:34.920 organisation anywhere in the world

00:20:37.120 certainly in the UK

00:20:37.960 because no no it's absolutely remarkable

00:20:40.700 what did you just say

00:20:42.400 you have literally been stopping yourselves right yourselves private individuals spending

00:20:48.420 your own resources going there you yourselves with the cameras phones videoing have literally

00:20:56.060 stopped people invading this country um and i think that represents the very best of the anglo-american

00:21:04.040 ideal actually of taking matters into your own hands and not waiting for government or the

00:21:09.320 authorities, inverted commas, to deal with something, but to go out there and do it yourself

00:21:13.280 as rational, empowered individuals. And I'll tell you what else I like about Raise the Colors is

00:21:20.800 that you're not just content with promoting warm and fuzzy feelings of patriotism. You're out there

00:21:28.700 doing the gritty work in the opposition. And you would ordinarily think, knowing something about

00:21:35.660 rtc and the legal problems that that that that the effort in raising the flags on street posts

00:21:44.660 was the hard work it's not the hard work um that that comes out of your patriotism is is there what

00:21:52.040 we just saw in that footage it's you going out to the beach saying here are the people we're going

00:21:57.240 to physically stop you ourselves and then they turn back right that is those two things i think

00:22:03.480 It's the patriotism, the symbolism of the patriotism flying St. George's flag, but the actual raw, hard work of putting that patriotism in practice.

00:22:18.860 I can't think of any other organisation that does both of these things. And they absolutely do belong together.

00:22:25.560 Well, thank you for your kind words.

00:22:28.380 I mean, and off the back of that, I mean, you've got to think,

00:22:31.060 for me to get to that beach, for me to know where the beach is,

00:22:34.180 what time those boats are leaving, when the camps are emptying, 1.00

00:22:37.220 there's people in this background behind this, and they are women. 0.95

00:22:42.000 They are people that are not probably physically able to come 0.99

00:22:44.740 and do these things, but they're all doing their bits in the background.

00:22:48.120 And this is like, we are at, I don't want to say the word war,

00:22:52.080 but it's like in the old days in the 1940s where the women are at home you know looking after the 0.71

00:23:00.880 rations and looking after the ammunition and sorting things out for the men while the men go

00:23:04.800 out on on the field and that's how i feel that that raise the colors was up until the french

00:23:11.760 and british governments decided to ban me and nine other members of raise the colors from going to

00:23:18.000 france yet we haven't been convicted we haven't been arrested yet they've just said you've got a

00:23:24.460 blanket ban on traveling to france and it's because they know that we're uncovering the truth

00:23:28.480 they know that we're we're uncovering the truth of what's happening in northern france they know

00:23:32.800 that we know exactly what's going on they know that we know it's orchestrated these camps have 0.64

00:23:38.300 got people from a third world in them now raise the colors is humane so if these people are women

00:23:46.160 children fleeing war-torn countries we are we are great britain and we want to help them okay but

00:23:52.540 if these people are economic migrants traveling across near around 17 countries to get to our

00:23:57.660 country to come in here illegally we don't know who you are and what you've got and where you're 0.99

00:24:00.980 from and you don't want to integrate with us and go through the right channels then you're not 1.00

00:24:05.340 welcome uh and we're going to stick by that and we're not going to stop and they can ban me they

00:24:11.060 can take me to the high court wherever they like and i will not stop and i will not give up and

00:24:16.360 nor will my team in in the background so that's where we're at with it and it's a real um

00:24:22.080 it's a real heartwarming thing that we're doing and not a lot of us need to do it but this is

00:24:27.480 our country and we haven't got another country we can't go anywhere else this is home um and we

00:24:33.760 can't go anywhere else so um this is this is us for now and we're gonna we're gonna go through

00:24:39.200 the government loopholes we're going to go through these hurdles um yet these illegal invaders will

00:24:46.380 break in and get everything on a plate a three-course meal and um a nice warm hotel to

00:24:52.160 sleep in while our elderly and veterans are perhaps on the streets and going cold at night

00:24:56.180 and things like that and i just think it's not right and it's not fair and it's not what

00:24:59.160 britain britain and british values are about so we're at raise the colors we're going to try and

00:25:02.940 change that Ryan just before we go to the commercial break can you give me 30 seconds

00:25:10.420 and tell me what the reaction has been towards you over um over the past week uh when you

00:25:17.900 appeared at the high court from the British public I mean I'm a listen it's it's when I go

00:25:25.340 to fill up with fuel at the petrol station people have come up to me today took my hand and said

00:25:30.880 thank you for what you're doing thank you so much i can't i can't openly follow you but i follow you

00:25:36.500 in discreet on another profile at raise the colors and and they'll say thank you so much um you're

00:25:42.880 saving that you're doing this for the women and children in this country and i'm like you know

00:25:47.380 it's just unbelievable i mean 30 seconds i've got crobra you look at crobra in the they've just

00:25:52.320 arrested someone tonight in crobra that has been um that has been convicted accused of rape in

00:25:59.840 germany why aren't we vetting these people on the borders that's all we want we want people vetted 0.73

00:26:04.380 backed and traced 0.53

00:26:05.740 if if if that is ever going to happen in the uk it will be down to raise the colors and ryan bridge

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00:32:25.100 Yesterday it blew up in the English speaking press

00:32:30.920 Hat tip here to remix news that we often have here on The War Room

00:32:35.800 I think pushing this out in the English speaking world

00:32:40.260 It's been also quite big the day before in the German speaking world

00:32:45.240 This is a report, a 1,500 page report that has come out in Germany

00:32:50.320 effectively saying that it would be legitimate for the federal constitutional court to suppress

00:32:59.440 the AFD, the Alternative for Deutschland, which is now running about on 30% in the polls. It's

00:33:07.380 10% ahead of the governing Christian Democratic Union, the CDU, and Chancellor Friedrich Metz.

00:33:15.640 And there's obviously, therefore, because the drumbeat about this is starting to pick up a little bit of acceleration, there's a lot of concern that this report by the Society for Civil Rights or Gesellschaft für Freiheit, rechter, in Germany, the GFF is preparing the ground.

00:33:39.380 The point about this report, which doesn't call it outright for the suppression of the AFD, but the idea is, the fear is, is that this is a report that has been 13 months in the making precisely to lay the juridical and political and media ground for the full-on legal suppression of the AFD.

00:34:01.160 With me to join me now to talk about this Arian Agashahi, regular guest here on the Warren Arian.

00:34:09.660 I know you're following this, as I think everybody in Germany quite closely right now.

00:34:14.620 Tell me, when you saw this report drop, tell me first of all, before you go into it,

00:34:19.740 what was your first instinct that this is a totally innocent report, speculative,

00:34:24.340 or that it's actually been written in order to be instrumentalized for the suppression of the AFD?

00:34:31.160 So we are currently witnessing the last moments, the last episode of a political chapter in Germany, which started probably after the reunification 1989-1990, where we had certain rules and certain ideas about the political system, which we considered as normal.

00:34:59.780 and we are now experiencing the last moment of this.

00:35:04.940 I would compare it probably to the time when the Republican Party

00:35:10.040 took a major change during the Tea Party movement

00:35:13.620 and this movement then turned into the Republican Party

00:35:20.040 was somehow absorbed and transformed the political debate totally.

00:35:25.680 And the same process was going on or is still going on in Germany

00:35:29.740 And we are now experiencing the end of the chapter and a new chapter beginning on the horizon, which will be the moment when the AFD is finally taking over political responsibility in Germany, which will happen.

00:35:45.300 So this report is a hopeless attempt by people from the current political system who hold power and who benefit in the current status quo, and it will definitely not be successful.

00:36:03.500 We will see over the course of this year huge electoral wins by the AFD in the state elections upcoming in the fall.

00:36:15.300 So what is important is we can talk about this report, which won't be meaningful, but we should, in my opinion, much more to talk about what is really substantively the political situation in Germany and the possible dangers which we really have as conservatives.

00:36:36.580 Because the danger will not be that the AFD could be banned, because this is definitely not a likely scenario.

00:36:43.640 However, the danger I see is that we are currently developing a very big conservative and right-leaning coalition, which is actually very fragmented under the umbrella of the AFD.

00:37:00.520 and since we are having momentum we are not focusing on the internal issues we see this

00:37:08.960 report and say this is a hostile report and then we know that in four months we have elections

00:37:14.540 which we will win and then what happens is that the moment we take power we start to realize

00:37:22.240 that we now have responsibility however we are not able to assume this responsibility

00:37:28.400 because we didn't focus on the actual tasks which we have,

00:37:33.760 which are definitely not to fight against this report,

00:37:37.500 which are much deeper and hidden behind, you know, the scene.

00:37:43.680 Okay, let me break this down then.

00:37:45.500 So you're suggesting, if I've got this right,

00:37:48.380 that because there are a lot of people who are taking this seriously,

00:37:50.960 but I think that's what you're warning against.

00:37:53.160 You're suggesting that firstly, as a manoeuvre, it's not going to work.

00:37:58.220 the idea that the federal constitutional court will suppress the AFD on constitutional grounds.

00:38:06.380 You're suggesting that's not going to happen. 0.70

00:38:08.660 If there is a legitimate attempt behind this, that's going to fail, that attempt, on behalf of the German elites.

00:38:15.120 What you're cautioning against, if I've got this correctly, is that you don't think four months before an election,

00:38:20.780 The AFD should be wasting its political, financial, legal resources in fighting something that's not going to achieve its fundamental purpose and will therefore be a substantial distraction in these crucial months.

00:38:36.600 Is that what you're suggesting? Is that your warning?

00:38:39.560 Yes, Ben, generally speaking, you know, the authority which published this report is actually not even an authority.

00:38:48.940 It is not a court. It is not a state authority. This was published by a civil society NGO that conducts strategic litigation and constitutional law projects. These kind of reports are frequently published in all Western countries.

00:39:06.600 You just remember you have so many left-leaning and progressive-leaning NGOs and think tanks on the Hill who publish all sorts of reports.

00:39:18.340 Of course, it is in the light of the current debate something which on X and on social media is discussed because, you know, you can frame it very dramatically.

00:39:30.060 But we have a constitutional court in Germany, and we have a legal system, and our constitutional court is the authority which decides whether a party is banned or not, and not a privately financed NGO which is publishing a 1,500-page report, which probably was primarily generated through AI.

00:39:57.080 so this is not really a big issue for either the afd or the conservatives generally because it will

00:40:07.280 fail but if you like we can you know focus and speak about what i consider as a strategic and

00:40:15.620 structural problem of the afd and the conservatives generally in germany right now

00:40:21.480 which is the real danger which we face in the future sure go ahead you've got two minutes

00:40:27.680 okay so you know just remember the last american election when you had a huge win

00:40:36.160 and trump won the election now what you see in the u.s is that the foundation of this coalition

00:40:45.780 which brought Trump and the Republicans into power

00:40:49.260 is very fragmented.

00:40:52.000 For instance, you see the situation which is going on,

00:40:54.780 Tucker Carlson actively fighting the administration.

00:40:58.800 You have a very similar situation in Germany right now

00:41:01.740 within the AFD.

00:41:03.320 The AFD is an umbrella.

00:41:06.080 This umbrella is holding very different groups

00:41:11.120 with different interests.

00:41:13.520 They are united by the fact that there is a system and an establishment which is fighting them.

00:41:24.640 This report is representing this establishment.

00:41:29.280 However, since we are not abandoning democracy, at least so far in Germany,

00:41:35.540 there will come a moment in the near future where the AfD will assume real power.

00:41:41.060 At that moment, the AFD must work professionally and must be able to function within the system of government.

00:41:51.260 And since we are right now only fighting against outside enemies, we are not really focusing on what needs to be done for a relatively young party, which does not have any experience in real governments internally, speaking about having the right teams, the right real policy, which can be implemented at the moment when you assume power.

00:42:14.740 and then what happens is that you could have a bounce back

00:42:18.380 because the AFD could take power, could have some sort of control

00:42:22.680 then you see that you have different groups, you have conflict of

00:42:26.580 interests, you have orientation crisis and then

00:42:30.580 the 30% right-wing coalition which we have right now

00:42:34.260 could be more fragmented. So what I'm

00:42:38.900 urging is don't focus on a threat

00:42:42.620 which is just an artificial threat, which can be very nicely used, you know, in media and to get votes,

00:42:50.480 focus on the real issues which we have, which are internally and which are really significantly.

00:42:58.660 So you're saying don't be distracted by this report.

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00:43:05.340 Don't be distracted by the report.

00:43:06.980 What you, Arian Agashahi, would be more urging as a political consultant is to prepare the party effectively for the transition from being an opposition party-stroke movement into a governing power.

00:43:22.320 Absolutely.

00:43:24.040 All right, stay with me. I'll be back to you in 60 seconds, Arian.

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00:45:09.980 Now, back to Erin.

00:45:11.640 There are a couple of things that you mentioned in the first half, and I really must be devil's advocate here and push back.

00:45:20.240 And one of these things is because you mentioned the situation in other Western countries.

00:45:24.640 I'll cite the case in the UK, but certainly it's the case in America that when NGOs that push out policy papers like this, it's not an innocent exercise.

00:45:37.620 It is, you know, you say that you have the federal constitutional court at one level and the decision with them, but certainly in the United States, but also to the UK, there is a preparing of the ground that takes place years in advance with documents exactly like this one.

00:45:58.520 That's the purpose. And it helps to prepare people for the judicial activism at the end of it.

00:46:05.740 That's the goal.

00:46:07.060 On that point, I want to ask you here,

00:46:09.280 because looking into the funding of this organisation,

00:46:14.760 it would appear that George Soros is behind it

00:46:19.280 because one of his organisations,

00:46:24.740 and of course the Ford Foundation as well,

00:46:27.220 they are funding the organisations which are funding in turn

00:46:31.440 and the Gesellschaft für Freiheitsrechte,

00:46:36.440 the German Society for Civil Rights itself.

00:46:40.680 So knowing how these guys operate,

00:46:43.280 I wouldn't suggest it was a fair totally out of place

00:46:46.920 to suggest that this whole thing is a pretext

00:46:50.100 in order to suppress the AFD at the end of the line.

00:46:57.440 That said, in favour of what your argument is, and you'll forgive me for making the point, right? You can easily swat it aside. But in favour of what your argument is, is that the President Chancellor himself, Friedrich Merz, has said he doesn't believe that the AFD should be suppressed.

00:47:15.800 It would be an undemocratic manoeuvre, smacking of the suppression of political opposition.

00:47:22.340 And it's pretty clear that if the CDU isn't supporting this, it's probably not going to go anywhere because there are only three bodies.

00:47:28.820 If I understood this correctly, Erin, there are only three bodies that can actually petition the suppression of a political party from the German federal constitution court.

00:47:39.060 And that's the lower chamber, the Bundesrat, the upper chamber, the Bundestag and the federal government itself.

00:47:47.940 And if the CDU isn't going to play ball on that, it's probably not going to go anywhere.

00:47:52.460 But I put the point to you that that one can't necessarily be too innocent about these kind of manoeuvres,

00:48:00.200 because the whole point about this is to set up that pretext for an eventual manoeuvre by the court.

00:48:07.500 let me let me just put that point to you once again yeah yeah you know our political system

00:48:15.900 in germany was established after the second world war heavily influenced by the allies

00:48:22.900 and germany was needed as a front state because if there would have been a warm war and not just

00:48:32.120 a Cold War, Germany would be the front line. And therefore, West Germany was a very significantly

00:48:40.160 important part of the strategic consideration of the Allies after the Second World War,

00:48:46.700 during the Cold War. Therefore, instruments were established which could prevent that a political

00:48:54.240 force could take over the German government, which would be against the Western interest.

00:49:02.120 What we have today is a total...

00:49:04.520 Can I just interrupt you there?

00:49:06.640 What you're basically suggesting is that when the Allies set up

00:49:09.780 the contemporary structure of post-war Germany,

00:49:13.780 the fear was that there'd be some kind of fifth-column movement

00:49:17.440 funded by the USSR that would undermine the West German government

00:49:26.580 And so that these measures here were really around that particular historical fear, which wasn't, which in the time of the Cold War was not by any means a paranoid response on behalf of the United States, right?

00:49:45.520 No, at all. As somebody who strongly believes in the Western civilization and who is influenced by the Christian and also the Greek philosophical and religious values, I strongly appreciate this approach.

00:50:01.860 However, what I want to underline is that we have aspects in the political system of Germany which are the result of this very specific situation historically, the Cold War, and the instrument of banning a party, which is generally a very unique instrument if you compare it to, you know, Western states.

00:50:26.140 This is not something which often is even possible, which is even in the toolkit of a constitutional court, just to ban a party.

00:50:34.460 It is in the toolkit of the constitutional court because of the unique circumstances of our past.

00:50:42.520 And as somebody who has a legal background, I don't think that there is a realistic opportunity for the constitutional court to ban a party which, if you judge it based on objective measures, which German courts still do,

00:51:04.960 has a more moderate manifesto than, you know, Rassemblement National

00:51:11.240 or many other European parties.

00:51:13.520 Because if you just take the manifesto and the program of the AFD by its words,

00:51:20.860 and, you know, also what is frequently shared by almost all representatives,

00:51:26.580 this is something which is shared by millions, not only in Germany, but in Europe.

00:51:31.560 So I don't want to excuse, you know, the Soros-funded paper.

00:51:39.240 Of course, I subjectively strongly disagree with the paper.

00:51:44.380 However, what I'm urging is that right now, if you are in Germany or if you are an ally of the AFD,

00:51:52.960 this is not the biggest issue which you have.

00:51:55.840 we must focus on the internal and strategic problems of the party in order to be able to 0.89

00:52:02.760 assume power soon i mean that that is um you're absolutely right there it's it's pretty ridiculous

00:52:09.960 because they're talking what their main justification is the fact that they're saying

00:52:13.680 the afd doesn't have any political momentum to suppress its own extreme elements well that's not

00:52:19.840 a legal term arian there's 10 seconds where do people go on social media to keep up with your

00:52:24.660 analysis uh you can find me on x arian underscore germany or on linkedin i frequently publish on

00:52:33.560 hungarian conservative and other publications and um i'm happy to share with you guys

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