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Bannon's War Room
- July 28, 2022
WarRoom Battleground EP 104: NYT - Trump Turns AZ Republican Party To MAGA⧸Working Class; Baris OnThe Polling Around Biden's Economy; Kennedy Of The Trump Political Strategy
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this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
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people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the authoritarians
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get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just like in georgia
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it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations
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this is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is the fight
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all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your host
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stephen k bannon thursday 28 july the year of our lord 2022 you're in the battleground uh i've got
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my co-host for the hour is going to be brian kennedy one of the founders of the committee
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on the present danger china also a former head of claremont and which has been under the supposedly
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be under attack recently but the new york times article is kind of a paid advertisement
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in addition to the head of the american strategies group uh brian thank you very much uh for joining
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us today we're going to get we're going to go through a bunch of candidates talk to richard barris
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about polling he's doing but i hear i got a question what is your earlier today you know we
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had the we had the uh announcement of you know 0.9 growth in the second quarter and all day long
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it's been nothing but spin from the administration we're not in a recession this is just a slowing it
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may you know may be trending towards the recession i may uh fuel a recession like the negative what is
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your sense of one where the economy is and number two the messaging that the biden regime is putting
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out about it well the biden administration seems to be engaged in a massive effort to uh simply deceive
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the american people president trump the other day called it not misinformation but disinformation
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and i think these uh the way they're playing with numbers and playing with terms
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and when you actually have a recession saying it's not a recession they uh it's a kind of gaslighting
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that i think the american people are tired of and and any decent free person would want the straight
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story from his government and he's not getting it today i think the economy is in trouble today
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and i think people are very uncertain about what's going on and all this talk about workers
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and where they're where they are in the economy i think should be something that americans are very
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concerned about i'm not sure we really understand everything we have done to harm the u.s economy
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from two years of dealing with the china virus
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let me ask you i know you advise a lot of companies and corporations and heads of companies what is your
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sense when you talk to people making decisions capital investment expansion uh adding people because they
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keep falling back on hall everybody's got a job you got help wanting signs everywhere i don't i don't see
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it like that i think right now you've got a real tendency of big techs laying off a lot of people
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got consumers laying off people retail's laying off people uh i think they're wrestling past the
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graveyard in these employment numbers and what's your sense in talking to decision makers
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well a lot of folks i believe just simply see that uh they're going to wait and and not do
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anything they're not investing money right now they're not hiring people right now unless you're
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in the service parts of the economy which still need people but the bigger more more important more
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higher paying jobs i think people are stopping and they're not i think businesses right now are going
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to take a hard look on whether they're going to expand because they're not getting the straight
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story from the biden administration there's a great deal of uncertainty the biden administration's
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creating more uncertainty and that's not a great environment to try to run a business so i i do
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think that's real a real concern and those people who are working in the in the service parts of the
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economy one wonders how long they're going to do that for if the government's going to pay them to
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stay home you hear a lot i talk to a lot of entrepreneurs who they hire people they work for a few
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months and they go back on unemployment they're workers and that that's not a sound way of running any
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kind of economy but you see that throughout throughout the country today well let's go out
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let's go out to the hustings let's go to arizona eli crane eli just recently uh got the president
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trump's eli tell us how uh why did president trump endorse you what what's your feeling of why
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it's a very competitive race uh all throughout the country he doesn't really endorse that many
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people why did he why did he endorse eli crane well steve thanks for having me i appreciate it i think
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the reason he uh supported us and endorsed us was because we've shown uh not just in our military
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service but even in our business and now running this campaign that we are hardcore conservative
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america first and we are you know we we're fighters out here and i think that uh the trump administration
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is tired of the same old mod mod one politician with the blue suit and the you know the uh american flag
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you know uh pendant on his uh on his suit that says all the right talking points but at the
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end of the day is part of the uniparty and america last and not america first so we're honored to have
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his endorsement steve
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just talked to brian kennedy about this announcement day recession when you go throughout your district
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uh what are folks saying about the economy out there when you're going out meeting people because i know
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yours is a grassroots organization you're knocking on a lot of doors you're working phone banks
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what are folks telling the like brain their thoughts on the economy are they debating you
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on the uh esoteric nature of a recession is it two quarters of down or is it trending down what are the
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hard-working folks out in arizona saying about it no they know exactly what's going on they know that
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we're in a recession they know that this administration continues to lie about everything
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from what's really going on at the border you know to what's going on in our elections what's going
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on in the economy they don't trust um they don't trust this administration and that's why they want
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it that's why they want change talk to me about the district what what's your what's your sense of
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this district give me tell me how it's going out there how the economy is going out there
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you know this is an amazing district steve we uh have some of the most beautiful territory in
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arizona we've got flagstaff sedona prescott yavapai county pine top show low it's it's a beautiful
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area and even comes down south of phoenix um you know the folks out here are really concerned
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they're concerned about the border they're concerned about our elections they're tired of uh radical
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leftists destroying the country but there is equally as tired of rhinos that do nothing about it
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and that's why they're willing to uh you know look past the traditional looking sounding talking
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politicians and they're looking for real warriors and real fighters and that's why we're hoping to
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represent this district and that's why we're so proud to have the trump endorsement and just this
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week we actually got the jim jordan endorsement as well steve so we are we are doing really well
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and we're really proud of this campaign
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new york times had a big article the other day said that uh arizona these primaries are probably the
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most important that are going to come for the whole trump movement and for really the future direction of
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the republican party and what they said is that you're seeing a real class distinction that maga
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america first this trump movement and the candidates are coming up you know was it abe hamaday for for
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for attorney general carrie lake mark fincham for secretary of state yourself and congress race couple
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of the other folks running for congress really uh trump has galvanized a working class middle class
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movement that wants real action uh for the working class and middle class and no more nonsense and
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you've got also in arizona because of the history of the state very vested interest in real estate
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banking finance really from the mccain ducey uh you know establishment part of the the party uh what's
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your sense as a new york times right is that we actually have kind of a class thing going here between
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the maga movement your supporters and uh and the vested interest in in banking and real estate in uh
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in in arizona absolutely steve and i think that you know you could really see the difference this last
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week when pence had a rally and trump had a rally i believe there were only a couple hundred people
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that showed up for pence's rally um and that had more of your moderate establishment republicans show up
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for it and then up in uh you know the prescott valley area we had president trump show up i think
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we had about 5 000 people show up to that rally it was massive it was huge and to your point steve you
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always talk about arizona being at the railhead of the country it is we showed that with the audit i
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think you're going to see that again uh come up this next tuesday and you know the maga movement
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the america first movement is where the momentum of the republican party is thanks to president
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donald j trump eli people want to know uh find out more about you but they're specifically going
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to know because we're in the final hours final days of this race how they get to you where you're going
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to be speaking what you're going to be doing as far as events so where do people go to find out more
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as we grind through this over this weekend and then to tuesday next week yeah thanks steve uh
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if you want to find out more about us where we're going to be all they have to do is go for
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go to eli4arizona.com we appreciate all the support from this audience and we love what
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you're doing steve thank you so much for teaching us about action action action
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kyle uh eli thank you so much uh appreciate it we're going to have everybody look forward to
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having you back on this weekend i think there's going to be a big uh a big seminar and i think
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it's going to be out uh i thought it was going to be out in arizona on the voter integrity we're
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gonna laura logan's going to be out there we're going to hook into a lot of people so we'll make sure
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we'll get you over the weekend i know you're gonna be working hard eli crane out in arizona too
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remember eli is a trump endorsed candidate for the house of representatives for congress eli crane
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thank you very much brian kenny let me go back to you for a second uh before i go to my next guest
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you've spent more time in arizona really as a senior uh trump associate out there's the new york
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times right is this thing really galvanized i call i call arizona the railhead of the trump
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movement even given texas and florida and tennessee and all these great mega states we have
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arizona is the hardest core of the hardcore and the times has ascertained that there's a class
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thing going on that you have uh you have uh the uh worker-based molt a very diverse um you know
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inclusive nationalism participatory populism we got dan schultz out there you get all these people out
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there the precinct strategy it's really become from it's a bottoms-up grassroots movement that
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supports america first and trump and then you've got the vested interest of the people that have
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put the capital to work over many many decades uh in in arizona the banking establishment the financial
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establishment the real estate interest really personified by mccain and ducey and that crowd
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do you buy that assessment uh well i i i certainly agree that there's a divide the reason arizona is so
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important is because it was arizona that fox news called on election night for joe biden when everybody
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and i mean everybody in the arizona establishment that donald trump had won they were having they
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were having caravans go through arizona prior to november 8th november 3rd excuse me that were over a
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hundred miles long just the enthusiasm for president trump was off the charts so that when fox news called
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it for arizona people were outraged they thought something was wrong and they knew that they were
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going to have to get to the bottom of it the thing about arizona is you have working class hispanics you
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have white black brown it is not about race it's about america it's a very popular populist pro-american
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state and so you're seeing this big debate going on between that maga candidate the america first
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candidate and the more traditional insider republican like doug ducey and all the corporate supporters that he
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has and that divide i think is very very real the interesting part it seems to me is that it does come
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down to workers that will the republican party stand up for workers or just corporate interests
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donald trump showed how you could stand up for the american worker and defend corporations and american
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businesses so far these republican establishment types all they care about is whatever the corporations want
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and the workers be damned and the time has come to change all that and i think to the extent that that this
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tuesday you have a a big divide i think you're going to see
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real enthusiasm for the maga candidates whether it's cary lake mark fincham or whoever that these are the
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people that represent everyday arizonans i think they're also people who represent a new political
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establishment and it's not about republican democrat or independent it really is it's not a new party
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but it's a new representation of a political movement that frankly you've been leading here
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for the last two years here in the war room and that that's a very exciting thing i think for anybody
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who's watching american politics you can feel it it there's that much enthusiasm out there
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let's go to missouri let's go to missouri they got another huge primary on on tuesday this one's
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gotten really uh quite personal on a statewide level particularly in the senate race kyle labue
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is running for the house kyle tell folks about this primary that's coming up it's one of the most
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important primaries missouri is a hardcore trump state you got to come out of there with mega
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candidates we know you're the mega candidate out there walk us through what's happening in the state
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right now as far as uh the sense of of the what biden's done to the economy where people's heads
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are at and where the mega movement is so as we're out on the ground every day uh we are just knocking
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doors talking to people and they're all asking us the same question what are you going to do for us
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right away we're suffering from these gas prices it's getting crazy and you know it seems like we got a
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president that he doesn't only uh not ride a bike well he isn't a good president you know he goes over
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to foreign nations and begs them for 50 50 cents off a gallon and acts like he's he's really won uh
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the american people need relief right away and so what we need to do is we need to remove the red tape
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and help these people right away and uh what i'm seeing from people is they just they're tired of
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the same establishment as always you know i'm the only candidate in the race that is fully uh i i paid
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for this campaign out of my own pocket i'm fully funded i don't have any pack money or anything behind
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me and we're doing it the old-fashioned way we've knocked over 30 000 doors and uh people are recognizing
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that they're like you you actually are out here and you're actually trying you're looking us in the
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eyes and talking to us and asking us what what we want and uh you can see a difference in in our
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campaign versus other people's campaign and i think you're seeing that all over the country that the
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people that are true magna they put in the work you know you know we're we're talking about numbers
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whether we win eight seats 10 seats 25 seats 40 50 seats what do you get the sense of people in the
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district of they're tired of just talk for instance when you win what types of action do they want to
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see the leadership in the house and what type of actions do you believe they want to see you as
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your as their representative take on i'll tell you something that they love about me is i have a plan
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right away to introduce a bill called one thing at a time and it's really simple if we're talking
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about infrastructure that's all we're talking about we're not talking about infrastructure
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and a thousand things behind it all the way down to transgender reassignment all this crazy stuff that
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they tack on these bills if you're talking about uh helping veterans or you know funding schools
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whatever it be it's one thing at a time we're only talking about that because people want transparency
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they don't want the uh that you know these these special interest projects just flowing through on the
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backs of of what american people need and so that's something that i would try to push right away
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one thing at a time if we're debating a bill that's the only thing we're talking about so
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the american people know that we're not trying to slip anything past their eyes and i and i can tell you
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as i have i've put that out there it is really popular people say we are ready for a transparency
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right now we don't want we don't want our eyes covered and told to be set in the corner you know
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for instance there's a chips bill up that now the republicans are fighting but some it's got some good
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stuff in it about 50 billion dollars to actually bring the chip facilities back from taiwan and
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bring them here but the democrats and some republicans have put another 200 billion dollars
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of just corporate welfare on top of it uh also mansion drops this uh green new deal bill which
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i don't know is 400 billion in spending and they say it's going to save all this money but it looks
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like nonsense so you're talking about another seven or eight hundred billion dollars of spending just
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here in the last couple of hours the last 24 hours and the house leaves tomorrow and doesn't
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come back until september do your folks feel like they're dialed into that do they you feel like
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they in the district they understand of all the stuff that's going to wash it in the scale of the
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spending a tree in here a tree in there you got the federal reserve do they feel like anybody
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reaches out to them to say hey here's exactly what's going on not only that but they feel like
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they're not being heard you know we have career politicians that are bought up by corporations
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and foreign nations we have to get ahead of this fast people don't realize that maybe or maybe they
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do the danger that we have of foreign nations buying up supply chains and also family farms you
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know we got legacy farms here in missouri that uh foreign nations are trying to buy up constantly
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we've got to get in front of that and i wouldn't be opposed to not letting them buy any of our our
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our food production in this country we don't want to be relying on other on other countries like we
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are right now for oil we need to get back to america first we need to drill in america we need
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to produce food in america and we need we need to produce products in america and go back to what
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trump was talking about we need fair trade you know nobody would stay in business if every time you
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were in business with somebody you got ripped off and that's what's going on in american people right now
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kyle how do people particularly in the run-up to this is very intense fight out there in every
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level every primary and the statewide offices is brutal right now how do people find out more about
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you specifically where they can get you if you're going to be at events how they follow you and and
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get to meet you kylebrew.com um we're going to be in boliver tonight we're doing the old school we're
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going to be in the park come on out boliver missouri uh we'll be there uh there's an ice cream
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social we'll be talking about these things and more i want to hear your voice i want to hear what
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you guys need and because we're going to take it to washington i'm your uh america first i'm a
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not a career politician i'm a small business owner and i'm a small town guy and uh i'm tired of of
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us not being represented in the media
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kyle uh thank you very much say hi at the uh ice cream social tonight tell them the boardroom's
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thinking about them got their back and love them i will thank you steve for everything you're doing
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it's good to see you back on here thank you brother so brian let me come back to you for we
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get we got bearish with some some very important polling on on on the economy uh you hear something
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like that and people in dc would have all scoff we gotta do 50 things at one time but you're hearing
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the people say hey look and particularly i think this i think what's happened the last 24 hours is
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illustrative you've got a a 250 or 300 billion dollar chips bill that started with something i
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know you and i supported navara supported we got to get the chip plants from taiwan back here is going
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to take obviously some capital some underwriting i think it's 50 billion dollars that part of that
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the bill's 200 billion dollars 300 billion it's got everything in it okay they've dumped it's a
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crystal tree they've hung everything on it then mansion understands this the strongest signal out
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there i'll talk to barris about this when he's on the strongest signal that shows that they know
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that they're going to lose the senate is mansion has a revelation last night and they behind the
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closed doors they've been negotiating this they drop a i don't know 400 billion 500 billion so we got
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you know 750 800 billion dollars in spending and he they supposedly have some tax taxes but who knows that
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ever gets implemented and it's so convoluted and so dense i i've been talking to people since last
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night really smart people they can't make out some of these bills they don't know how they all function
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nobody's reviewing them so when the people missouri say hey how about this call you know calls a guy
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from a small town you know he's he's a little bit like mr smith goes to washington he says how about
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this how about we just do if we're going to do one let's do one at a time if it's going to be big we
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come back and explain to people we have hearings we come back to the community maybe have a couple
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of town halls is that can you govern like that in the modern world are the sophisticates in davos
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and new york and the city of london and and and uh and brussels and washington dc say that's the
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rubes the problem we got is that's how rubes think brian kennedy yeah isn't isn't that was very
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refreshing what kyle had to say he's a real guy and americans want real guys not to bring everything
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back to donald trump but trump was a real guy he tried to approach everything based on common sense
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just plain old american common sense that's what kyle is talking about washington today and the media
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you know enables all this tries to make everything sound way too complicated as if everyday people can't
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understand it when in fact you know they can understand it i swear the the democrats are
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really trying to take the country down in so many ways you you don't want to exaggerate and say this
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is a communist takeover but they are certainly motivated by the very worst intentions they think
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we can just keep on printing money this way and spending our way into some different position than we
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are today i mean the country is not doing better and yet they propose more spending as if that's
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going to make a difference the republicans though are the are the people who are disappointing me today
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where are they explaining what is going on they're all it's almost as if they think just by being quiet
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the biden administration is going to implode and they're going to win in the primaries and in november
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and that's not enough you've got to actually make a case to the american people and explain exactly
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what is going wrong with what the biden administration is doing and so the biden administration itself
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seems delusional that they're making a difference but the republicans unfortunately also seem delusional
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to me that just sitting there on the sidelines waiting for the biden administration to implode
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is going to be enough they've got to start fighting guys like kyle they're fighting trump is fighting
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you know blake masters in arizona is fighting you need these kind of guys out there getting into
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office and really making a difference you know i think that's a very wise because everybody in the
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republican side leadership they're just saying be quiet don't say anything uh it'll just uh it'll just all
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go away before we go to break we're gonna bring richard barris the great people's pundit uh the
00:24:52.920
pollster talk about the economy but i also want to talk to him about next tuesday is going to be
00:24:57.560
brutal it's a big day for maga it's a big day for america first big day for the republican party and
00:25:03.000
this country um let's go back to the chips bill for a second you and i have supported strategically we
00:25:09.240
got a massive problem with the chips we never should have let all the high-end chips go over to
00:25:13.240
overseas you know taiwan is silicon valley west you got to defend it it started as a 50 billion
00:25:18.200
dollars which is still a lot 30 to 50 billion dollars for the chips part alone it's huge but
00:25:21.960
it metastasized 250 billion dollars and nobody talked about it and now we're kind of presented
00:25:26.520
with oh we don't support it and you had these bills out of control we got about a minute brian how does
00:25:31.320
that happen without the republican party every day talking about something as important as bringing
00:25:36.040
chips back here to the united states well look our entire economy is based on these chips unfortunately
00:25:44.360
and the idea that we've let that be concentrated in taiwan and we love taiwan they're an ally
00:25:51.640
but the idea that we've let taiwan be the the main manufacturer of these so close to communist china so
00:25:59.000
vulnerable to communist china just means that american policy makers are not doing their jobs
00:26:05.880
we should have been incentivizing businesses decades ago to build these industries here in america and
00:26:13.480
if not mandating it really making it a very high priority of successive administrations to see this
00:26:20.520
happen president trump started it but didn't have any support because all the corporate types in the
00:26:27.480
republican party were simply fine leaving these things offshore when in fact you have to bring these
00:26:33.720
things back to this country it's a it's a really uh dire predicament we're in right now between the
00:26:40.520
chips and medicine uh we we've dropped the supply it's unbelievable okay hang on for a second brian
00:26:49.160
brian kennedy is my co-host for the hour we're going to bring in the uh richard barris i think if not the
00:26:54.760
best bolster one of the best bolsters out there he's going to talk about his polling on the economy we're also
00:26:58.840
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okay welcome back thursday 28 year of our lord 2022 brian kennedy formerly head of claremont and now
00:30:22.760
chairman of the community on present day danger china is my co-host i want to bring in richard
00:30:27.160
barris the people's pundit richard i know you want to talk we've got a lot of stuff to talk about in
00:30:30.520
economics and your polling but you've been out you you've polled air you've been all in these
00:30:34.840
battleground states you've been doing the polling the question i want to ask you the new york times
00:30:38.920
had this fascinating article where they said you're finally seeing it in high relief they it's been in
00:30:44.520
other states we've seen high relief that maga is a working class populist economic nationalist and
00:30:50.680
inclusive it's multi-racial multi-ethnic you've got a large hispanic working class middle class hispanic
00:30:56.920
component to it and in arizona it's coming down to very entrenched uh real estate banking uh the old
00:31:05.080
guard the old establishment of the republican a party out there uh kind of the mccain uh factor
00:31:11.720
now with doocy versus this uprising uh that's personified by people like mark fincham and and
00:31:18.840
eli crane and carrie lake and uh and and and galvanize a lot like like brian said by what happened
00:31:25.560
out there on three november when you were our pollster that night uh and we saw we were sitting
00:31:31.720
there going uh i don't really see why they called arizona so quickly as you know uh there's a there's
00:31:37.720
a memoir today says that uh are coming out in a couple weeks it says rupert murdoch told the trump
00:31:42.280
campaign all you lost by it's so the numbers are locked and i think now we're down to eight thousand
00:31:46.440
votes we know they're illegal too so trump actually won arizona what's your sense as you go around the
00:31:52.040
country in particular look for next tuesday has maga transformed the republican party and particularly
00:31:58.360
primary voters into a working class uh middle class really political force that will really uh
00:32:06.120
deliver uh come these primaries sir yeah this is why uh that new york times article is really
00:32:12.280
important and when we released the cd media big data poll steve i told people look at a few things in
00:32:17.320
those cross tabs look at age look at race and look at generation the fact is the pence wing of the
00:32:23.720
party the ducy wing of the party they're hoping that nothing but older white voters who are third
00:32:28.680
generation and more come out because if anybody uh below the age of 64 comes out in any meaningful
00:32:35.080
numbers they're going to get crushed not just beaten crushed look at the numbers that we released
00:32:40.920
carrie lake leads with 18 to 29 year olds by 20 points she leads 30 to 44 year olds by almost 20
00:32:48.360
points it only gets close when it's 65 plus and even that uh she's still up it's just a matter of
00:32:55.480
single digits as opposed to just a dominating win hispanic voters that are going to come out in the republican
00:33:01.480
primary they're going to vote uh for lake and masters by overwhelming margins so that new york times article steve
00:33:09.400
is lamenting uh the future that i've been trying to make this commentary for about a week now which
00:33:15.320
is it's not really commentary it's fact one wing of this party appeals to the demographics that are
00:33:21.480
the future not only of arizona but of this nation the other party is literally dying literally dying so
00:33:31.640
if you want to pray for low turnout every election vote for uh robeson and and mike pence's people you
00:33:38.120
know i mean that's that's the choice let me uh by the way i want to thank l todd wood and the team
00:33:45.000
over at cd media that's now your sponsor for these polls or you do a lot of these massive big data polls
00:33:50.040
it's been incredible they're such a great news operation but here but here's the question i'm
00:33:54.520
gonna get to brian kenneth saying you you were one of the first to ascertain that this is happening
00:33:59.880
this is why i kept saying arizona is the railhead of this because there you can see it in high relief
00:34:05.160
what is it about the trump message what is it about the maga message that's reaching working
00:34:13.080
class hispanics reaching african-american males reaching white uh white working class you know
00:34:19.320
workers reaching suburban moms what is it about this message that for all the time the republican
00:34:25.320
party has tried to do this and failed miserably that now here in 2022 right that we're seeing this
00:34:32.600
really start to take a real form of something to the fact that the new york times was not happy
00:34:37.240
writing this article you could tell they're saying hey this thing is this thing this thing is real
00:34:42.840
this thing is real and it's coming for you what is it about the message that attracts people to
00:34:48.200
volunteer and attracts people to go vote in primary you know i think it's a few things and i think we
00:34:53.480
just heard patrick say one of them donald trump even used the word common sense conservative you know
00:34:59.000
put that up against what bush said which was compassionate conservatism and then and ended
00:35:03.640
up not being very compassionate at all uh it led to a financial crisis or at least they did nothing
00:35:09.400
which hurt hispanic people badly disproportionately steve in places like nevada and arizona and south
00:35:15.640
uh texas south florida now so they they needed uh you know they needed some cajoling to bring back
00:35:21.000
around and donald trump he had something and then the movement itself you know new leaders like
00:35:26.040
carrie lake and blake masters they believe that they're going to fight it really is that simple
00:35:31.480
the working class in this country feel abandoned they feel like they have no voice and they feel
00:35:36.600
like you know voting is really a waste of time nothing will change what america first does for
00:35:42.680
them is make them think that their vote is worth it again and gives them a voice again it really is
00:35:47.640
that simple now i'm looking at carrie lake that is a tough woman she's gonna fight for me i'm looking
00:35:52.680
at donald trump he's not gonna back down that guy's gonna fight for me blake masters he's gonna
00:35:57.080
fight for me that's what it is they've always been there the republican party like a mit romney a
00:36:03.320
technocrat a plutocrat whatever you want to call them a kevin mccarthy look at these people they're
00:36:08.120
jokes they're jokes nobody in real america will think that somebody like them is going to fight for
00:36:15.160
them it really is that simple nobody steve you're a student of history nobody wants to follow people
00:36:21.320
who don't have the courage of their own convictions nobody follows cowards nobody
00:36:28.760
it's that simple it's not politics it's history let me bring let me bring in brian kennedy brian
00:36:35.240
you've been out there you've seen this you've seen the rise of this movement is uh his brother uh
00:36:39.880
richard barris correct in your opinion absolutely uh first of all richard is i think he said that
00:36:48.040
perfectly that was a perfect expression of what the electorate is thinking right now but remember
00:36:53.880
this this is not sort of a new problem for republicans i i recall abraham lincoln's speech
00:37:00.920
to the wisconsin wisconsin state fair when he was asked and this is of course you know 160 years ago
00:37:09.640
he was asked what you know they were pushing him on like whose side we were should we republicans be on
00:37:16.440
should we be on the side of labor or capital and business as if they're you know you had to be
00:37:21.400
both or excuse me one or the other and you you would think the modern republican would think well
00:37:29.720
we ought to be on the side of of labor or capital and that's how establishment republicans think today
00:37:35.880
but what did lincoln say he goes we should have we should have a very strong disposition toward
00:37:41.960
toward labor the working man this is lincoln talking about this in the 1850s the working man
00:37:49.400
because if the working man if we have laws that protect the working man's ability to make money
00:37:55.560
he can work hard he can make money he can save money and he can start his own business if we just
00:38:01.960
are on the side of of capital and business then the working man never has a place to go well again not
00:38:09.240
again not to keep pushing everything back to president trump but that was president trump's
00:38:13.400
bias let's see what we can do for the working man capital can take care of itself and always does
00:38:19.640
the working man what do we do to take care of him to make sure that he has a leg up that we're
00:38:25.320
watching out for his interests and to the extent that republicans today are talking about those issues
00:38:31.800
what's good for the working man they're going to win and if they don't don't follow that they simply
00:38:38.040
focus on what's good for corporate america i think they're not going to do as well they may still win
00:38:43.800
seats overall but they're not going to do as well and people will get disenchanted
00:38:50.840
richard barris you've done tremendous uh uh analysis and polling about the economy today you
00:38:56.520
and i've been following this about i think what's upset people today as i've gotten uh feedback is this
00:39:02.440
whole debate of whether how many angels are dancing on the head of the pin is the recession
00:39:06.840
not a recession biden regime is in full spin mode walk me through what what what what you know from
00:39:13.240
the from your polling and where the american people are about the economy and other aspects like that
00:39:19.640
versus just spin about nomenclature sir yeah this is why uh the spin won't work because uh the fact is
00:39:29.080
the registered voter economic confidence index when it first came out came on the show when i spoke to
00:39:34.200
you about it and i told you this index was designed to do a few things one be a little bit more predictive
00:39:40.040
than consumer indexes when it came to elections the impact on elections but also to to predict uh
00:39:45.640
recessionary periods growth periods the american people knew we were in a recession before lagging
00:39:51.160
indicators uh came out and confirmed it which is what the bea uh puts out uh you know we're looking
00:39:57.320
backward now what was growth in the last three months uh but the truth is the american people
00:40:02.120
knew and this is what happens when this index converges what it is telling you is that people
00:40:08.760
had a negative opinion of current economic conditions current business conditions the labor market and
00:40:14.360
general economics overall but over that six month outlook for many months they felt maybe the economy
00:40:20.520
will get better what happened in may uh which was so important was that those the present
00:40:26.440
situation and the current uh conditions index converged which told us uh in and in prior periods it signals
00:40:33.720
a recession because what it means is that people are in a malaise and they no longer feel that the
00:40:39.080
economy will improve over the next six months so that's why at that time we were you know waving the
00:40:45.400
red flag you know recession recession and and the data was always there to begin with um you know i think
00:40:51.800
people gave the biden administration a little bit of time steve but that final indicator which is the
00:40:57.720
inflation indicator about uh personal income total family income is it going to be enough and to cover
00:41:04.280
your expenses how do you feel about it once that went as negative as the rest of them that was it it pulled
00:41:09.640
the uh it pulled the that outlook that six months out outlook it pulled it on on par with the current
00:41:15.880
conditions and that was it i mean we tried telling people at the time so good news at least uh for
00:41:21.960
followers of the public polling project at least we did our job and the index worked but unfortunately
00:41:27.720
this is one of the times where you wish you were wrong no it's it's the reason that your guys your
00:41:33.320
analysis is so good um we're 100 starting on sunday we're 100 days out and i'm not asking you to
00:41:39.320
forecast but over the last 24 hours in this city because the chips bill but particularly because the
00:41:44.520
mansions changed your mind on the on the on the uh green new deal bill the the hammer down and they've
00:41:50.280
put the name to show you how how corrupt they are the name of the bill is the inflation fighting bill
00:41:56.680
or the inflation control act is in your opinion given your sense of the understanding of how the lived
00:42:03.320
experience of american citizens today in the economy uh how they're thinking about the economy and
00:42:10.360
coupled with your political polling do you believe there's anything the democrats can do
00:42:15.880
is there any bill or anything because this inflation control act will take years to implement
00:42:20.920
but is there anything they can do on messaging or whatever as you see it right now to turn around
00:42:26.840
the ship and avoid coming up on the rocks and actually getting blown out in november as you see it
00:42:32.840
100 days out i think the only ones who can screw this up are republicans themselves i do think there's
00:42:39.480
something going on right now steve where the leadership does not want an influx of mega freshmen
00:42:45.560
in the house in the senate because then god forbid they'll have to explain uh to the voters why
00:42:51.640
they can't get anything done or they can't block democrats but the bottom line is you know this is
00:42:56.760
the summer and there is always a severe non-response bias problem among republicans in the summer that's
00:43:03.800
why that labor day uh is really you know typical give or take a week or two is always the you know
00:43:09.240
the point when people really start to look at the polls in the summer democrats will edge a little
00:43:13.320
bit of an advantage because republicans participate less and that that tends to influence most of the
00:43:18.440
methodologies that most pollsters use in media and in university all of the uh all of the predictive
00:43:25.000
indicators are bad and with joe manchin doing what he did that should tell everybody that joe manchin
00:43:32.280
expects this will be the last year he will see in the senate majority for a long time plus joe manchin uh the
00:43:38.920
word is he he's done steve this is the last term so he he he knows it's up he knows the jig is up
00:43:45.720
that's why he did it he he won't he wanted to pay off real quickly i want to go back to it you're
00:43:50.840
you're you believe and you're a numbers guy but you believe now this talk that i'm hearing a lot
00:43:58.040
that the leadership in the republican party wants to take a powder they don't want 50 seats 60 seats 70
00:44:03.640
seats they don't they'd rather have it a tight so they can control it a tighter uh a majority to
00:44:09.720
obviously take control but to be tighter because what last thing they want is a bunch of donald trump
00:44:14.120
endorsed folks showing up there and raising holy hell are you a believer in that absolutely kevin
00:44:20.360
mccarthy does not want to end up like john bainer and remember what happened to kevin last time there
00:44:25.480
was a wave and influx of people that they didn't know didn't get a chance to vet he didn't get this the
00:44:30.760
gavel he couldn't make it he didn't have the votes paul ryan had to be the compromise candidate
00:44:35.800
there is no compromise candidate anymore so right now you have kevin mccarthy and mitch mcconnell
00:44:40.680
basically counting votes not counting seats i i mean i hate to be the breaker of bad news to everybody
00:44:46.120
now there's only so much they can do to control that steve um but they want a manageable establishment
00:44:52.520
majority that is why uh next tuesday it's not just arizona it's michigan it's missouri it's very
00:44:59.080
important the last of these primaries will will we'll do a lot to define who the republican party
00:45:03.960
is going into not just 2022 but the presidential election in 24. and and and washington with culp
00:45:12.280
and uh and joe kent i mean it's a next tuesday i cannot overemphasize how big how big uh you're
00:45:18.440
doing amazing work i want to thank your wife because i know she does the work you're just the good
00:45:21.880
looking guy they put on the camera uh the actor that she does uh how do people how do people by
00:45:30.280
the way and thank l todd wood and the team at cd media that's helping sponsor this now uh how do
00:45:35.400
people get to you both on your social media and how they get to the site again get her in truth at
00:45:41.000
people's pundit and uh they can follow me on locals with everything we're doing which is
00:45:45.080
peoplespundit.locals.com and arizona if you want to check that polling out i reference cdm.press
00:45:51.400
and you you'll see it all over the front page we just put out uh ballot initiatives too which ones
00:45:56.280
look like they're going to pass in arizona which ones look like they're going to fail in november so
00:46:00.120
that's also really interesting but yeah definitely go check out the cd media big data poll steve
00:46:06.360
uh richard thank you very much appreciate it all the best brian kennedy uh thank you brother brian
00:46:13.560
first off frank i gotta talk about china for a second but i gotta ask you are you do you buy
00:46:17.000
into rich i'm hearing this from a lot of smart people barris being the latest latest but i'm
00:46:22.040
hearing this from a lot are you buying into that theory that they're not fighting for a bigger
00:46:25.560
majority because they they want people they can control well look steve there's been a political
00:46:32.200
revolution in this country that trump started with the america first movement i guarantee you
00:46:39.400
establishment republicans like kevin mccarthy do want do not want a trump like majority they don't
00:46:46.680
like those kind of folks they want the corporatist types who are happy to go along and be controlled
00:46:53.400
opposition they don't want to they don't want fighters of the kind richard's talking about
00:46:58.840
and so you you will see i think on tuesday a war for the soul of the republican party i have a slight
00:47:04.760
confession to make too i was in aspen last week and i sat through part of the republican governor's
00:47:11.560
association so i was i was literally you know 10 feet from brian kemp at one point and to hear him
00:47:20.120
and doug ducey and the rest of these republicans the last thing they want is donald trump or anybody
00:47:26.760
like him back in office as i say i think they're delusional but they still are there they still are
00:47:34.280
powerful they still control a lot of money they're funding today opponents to the joe kent's and to
00:47:42.520
the blake masters and anybody who wants to stand for an america first agenda it really is disgusting
00:47:49.560
at some level because if you follow the track that they're on we're going to be slaves someday to
00:47:55.640
communist china we've got to get america back on track to the to the kind of programs that president
00:48:02.760
trump was talking about and i would say president trump would be well served to basically quit
00:48:09.800
praising kevin mccarthy and his leadership because that leadership is not supporting the trump agenda
00:48:18.440
i'm going to try to get you back on tomorrow or saturday to talk about this the chinese situation
00:48:22.520
about the bailout the 148 billion dollars is too big an issue to to jam in here i want to go back to the
00:48:28.040
republican governors were they in shock when hogan's uh proxy lost on tuesday night because
00:48:35.000
hogan's been very bitter there hasn't been coming together in in maryland my understanding that they
00:48:39.960
were all rooting for hogan uh because next stop is going to be new hampshire and hogan was going to
00:48:44.120
get this kind of never trump were they in a state of shock when when hogan's proxy lost to trump's
00:48:49.880
proxy in in maryland sir uh it it certainly seemed that way to me um that i i really do think they
00:49:00.200
just don't understand the american people they think that trump was a phenomenon that that was simply
00:49:06.840
going to go away and we were just going to get back to you know the jeb bushes and the doug ducys of
00:49:12.280
the world running for office but when you see this persistent move toward america first type candidates
00:49:20.440
these republican the establishment republican types simply don't get it they don't want to acknowledge
00:49:26.680
that this is a real thing that i mean they're doing but having said that they're doing their best to
00:49:33.240
make sure these folks lose and every time these folks win i think they're recalibrating how they think
00:49:39.480
about our politics which is all the more reason we have to double down on tuesday with all these
00:49:45.240
folks who do want to represent america first and actually take the fight to washington brian how do
00:49:52.760
people get to you on social media how do they get to the committee on the present danger all the great
00:49:56.200
work you and frank gaffney do every day over there uh thank you steve i'm brian t kennedy on getter
00:50:03.560
and on truth social uh mostly i'm on getter and then presentdanger china.org is our website uh we have
00:50:12.920
a very interesting new poll by john mclaughlin asking people about china and covet 19 the ccp virus
00:50:20.920
that i think your listeners would be interested in and uh and also a list of new webinars we're having
00:50:26.600
we're having one uh today in fact you'll have we'll have the video up in a day or so about russia and
00:50:32.840
china and the strategic threat that they pose to the united states but a lot of good stuff on
00:50:39.000
presentdanger china.org perfect you're one of the you're one of the smartest guys in the country that's
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why the chairman over the committee on the present danger china brian thank you so much taking an hour
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of your very busy schedule and co-hosting here we're in battleground tomorrow morning at 10 o'clock
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we're started all over again we want you to be there be strapped in when you'll be in the war room
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