Bannon's War Room - July 01, 2026


WarRoom Battleground EP 1041: Heroic Catholic Priest Defrocked By Vatican For Stating Obvious Truth: “Francis Taught Heresies”


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00:00:00.000 The church of God is on mission.
00:00:03.040 And maybe tonight this has been for you a refueling of your dedication
00:00:10.480 to take what the Lord has given us to the lost.
00:00:14.180 And I want to know how many of you would say,
00:00:17.120 I need to be a better witness for Christ.
00:00:21.200 I need to love him more and in that let people know.
00:00:25.120 And so hopefully you'd come to this altar at several times tonight
00:00:29.540 because here is the most important point
00:00:35.680 that I have tried to tell you every day for 96 hours.
00:00:43.020 Yes, the word of God is true.
00:00:45.840 And yes, the spirit of God is inviting.
00:00:48.640 And yes, the church of God is on mission.
00:00:52.680 Jesus
00:00:57.740 is
00:01:00.080 worthy
00:01:02.160 this is the primal scream
00:01:18.640 of a dying regime
00:01:19.920 pray for our enemies
00:01:22.300 because we're going medieval on these people.
00:01:26.320 Here's the time I got a free shot
00:01:27.500 at all these networks lying about the people.
00:01:30.580 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:01:32.500 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:01:33.920 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,
00:01:35.680 but you're not going to stop it.
00:01:36.600 It's going to happen.
00:01:37.880 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:01:41.280 Mega media.
00:01:42.620 I wish in my soul,
00:01:44.260 I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:01:48.060 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:01:51.200 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:01:58.100 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:02:07.620 Conroy here at the helm on Steve Bannon's War Room.
00:02:11.880 Good evening.
00:02:12.960 Just going to bring in straight away, well, just in one quick moment,
00:02:16.360 our regular commentator, Frank Walker.
00:02:19.760 OK, first, however, I'm just going to say you might be wondering why we started off the show with Pastor Matt Olson from the First Baptist Church of Sharon down in Mississippi.
00:02:32.200 And the reason is, well, wait until the end of the show.
00:02:36.700 You're going to have to wait to the whole end of the show and I'll tell you why we played that.
00:02:40.060 Quite remarkable.
00:02:42.060 And if I might say beautiful sermon, quite remarkable story behind it.
00:02:48.300 That should keep you interested and I hope viewing until the end of the show.
00:02:53.260 Frank Walker, good evening. As always, welcome on to the show.
00:02:57.560 Let's start off with, let's get back onto our regular theme of meltdown in the Catholic Church.
00:03:04.540 Let's go straight on opening with this story then about the Vatican,
00:03:09.280 which was dominated, I think, the coverage last week.
00:03:13.320 in that the Vatican has ruled out the laity, men and women, from reading the sermon, the homily, in the Mass.
00:03:27.820 And of course, Frank, we've had the unedifying sight, which we might have expected,
00:03:36.180 but Trad Inc. was coming out in full force, saying, here it is, right, this is Pope Leo.
00:03:42.380 we gave him time and look we were right he's defending orthodoxy as we
00:03:49.400 confidently predicted he would Frank Walker I personally think nothing could
00:03:54.740 be further from the truth but why don't you just sort of break down that the
00:03:58.520 developments on on this story why exactly do you think the Vatican clamps
00:04:03.380 down on allowing the laity for reading the the the homily the sermon in the
00:04:11.560 mask because i personally i think it was a power play uh but i want to hear your thoughts first
00:04:16.460 well i i'm not i'm not sure what you mean by a power play but i know this is an old um thing
00:04:23.340 that they do over and over and it always seems to be germany that comes out in front people uh guess
00:04:28.840 maybe it's because germany has that german church tax where they get tons of money from the
00:04:35.220 government uh whether or not they have anybody in the pews or not and um so they feel like they can
00:04:40.620 do whatever they want but it's been going on for years that in germany comes up with a thing that
00:04:46.400 they want that they want to do it's not really a catholic thing and then the church says no don't
00:04:52.320 do that and then they do it anyway so um yeah they came out the vatican just reaffirmed no
00:04:59.120 you can't have a lay people preaching homilies in the catholic church a priest the priest has
00:05:05.380 to preach the homily used to be that the priest priest did the readings too but now they preached
00:05:10.220 the homily. And they said, we can't dispense from that, even though the German conference asked for
00:05:15.900 it. And they said, you know, lay people are capable of preaching even better than priests
00:05:21.140 can. And people want to hear sermons from women. And at first, the Vatican just gave them a press
00:05:29.160 release, but now they've responded. And they said that the very Catholic things back to the German
00:05:35.560 bishops. The priest acts in persona Christi. And people can still give sermons outside of Mass.
00:05:43.760 They can do prayer services. They can do a lot of things that aren't Mass, but Mass is special.
00:05:49.140 And the priest is really united, inseparable from the mission of Mass. You see, in the Catholic
00:05:55.520 Church, Mass is not just a prayer meeting. It's a sacrament. And then the priest, and it's being
00:06:03.620 there with Christ on the cross. Christ is present in the Eucharist that comes down on the altar.
00:06:11.380 And that priest, when he gives that homily, he's an ordained person. He has a special character
00:06:17.320 to his nature that's through the sacrament of his ordination and the sacrifice that he's made of
00:06:23.660 his life and his celibacy and his daily office. He reads so many prayers all throughout the day,
00:06:29.640 every day and he studies his whole life is focused on these things so when you get a homily from a
00:06:34.900 priest it's very different from just a lay person so there's a lot there's a lot of meaning behind
00:06:39.940 it so anyway they went to the german church and they said no but this lady blessed i call her the
00:06:45.880 blessed steder carp erm her name's erm steder carp she's the head of the the laity organization
00:06:52.460 that's attached to the bishop's conference and she gave away the game of what's going to happen
00:06:57.000 And she said, the synodal way has already voted in favor of this and with strong support from our bishops who are going to continue to strengthen their arguments and under no circumstances read Cardinal Roach's letter.
00:07:12.080 He's in charge of the liturgy from the Vatican.
00:07:15.040 Read his letter as a cause for discouragement.
00:07:18.080 And so that's the whole game right there.
00:07:20.180 Don't worry about it.
00:07:21.360 It doesn't really matter what the Vatican says.
00:07:23.140 You've mentioned a number of things here
00:07:27.600 Let's break them down
00:07:28.360 First of all, in Catholic theology, two Latin terms
00:07:30.860 That are pretty relevant to the present discussion
00:07:34.480 I think you might have mentioned the second one
00:07:37.080 The first one is Alta Christus
00:07:39.760 Which means another Christ
00:07:41.660 Which is what the Catholics believe the priest is
00:07:45.100 especially when doing one of the the sacraments that's a confession but also
00:07:56.020 obviously the mass Alta Christus another Christ the other one is in persona
00:08:02.380 Christi which is the fact that when certain times in the words of the
00:08:07.860 consecration of the mass or in the words of the absolution the priest is acting
00:08:12.980 in the person of Christ
00:08:15.460 it's Christ who's saying the words
00:08:18.660 the priest says the words
00:08:20.500 but it's sort of Christ saying the words through him
00:08:22.600 which is why we are opening up this second road
00:08:25.940 but there is some confusion amongst Protestants
00:08:29.440 about the Catholic sacrament of confession
00:08:33.920 and they say well of course you know
00:08:34.860 you just confess your sins
00:08:37.460 to a priest, to a man
00:08:40.320 a man can't forgive your sins well that's absolutely true um and it's christ who's who's 0.99
00:08:46.580 who's basically hearing the confession through the priest and it's christ who's saying the words of 0.92
00:08:51.840 the absolution through the priest um if that if that weren't the case it would be borderline
00:08:56.640 blasphemous um but that but in sometimes i think the catholic church explains that quite badly
00:09:02.500 or frankly frank doesn't bother explaining it at all these days so that's the concept so that's
00:09:08.640 the concept and that's what frank's just just saying there um about the mass and and of course
00:09:14.260 christ was male uh and that's one of the reasons the christ says that the church says it has no
00:09:20.660 authority to ordain women um and it's the protecting the whole point behind that which
00:09:25.080 is why they're saying no to women reading the homily uh because it's a it's a liturgical act
00:09:31.120 okay so put all that aside you also you know you also have the possible i mean obviously the press
00:09:37.080 last week was focusing in on this idea of women especially reading the homily um in mass and i
00:09:46.640 think that's dominated the attention but obviously laymen uh can't are unable to do that as well now
00:09:52.600 so why did i say at the beginning frank walker i think this is a power play because as we know
00:09:57.800 from the way watching the vatican and the hierarchs the leaders of the the cardinals
00:10:04.060 out in the country and the bishops the way they run the church we know these
00:10:09.280 people are usurpers we know Cardinal Roach that you just mentioned these
00:10:17.080 people are all usurpers and they are you know I would put all of my entire salary
00:10:23.800 down on a polymarket bet that these people will never allow themselves to
00:10:27.580 be motivated by a genuinely Catholic principle so what is going on here and
00:10:32.740 Well, it's about a power play. If you think about it, everything that the Catholic Church does, both within the religious sphere, Frank, but also especially in the political sphere, it's about a power play and it's trying to protect its prerogatives.
00:10:45.740 Priests, your priest who reads, who will celebrate Mass, who will offer, if you want to use the more preconciliar verb, your parish priest who will offer Holy Mass on Sunday.
00:10:59.740 And the priests in religious communities, you might know Franciscans, Dominicans, what have you, whatever they are,
00:11:07.740 they are all in one way or another under a vow of obedience.
00:11:11.960 And that vow of obedience goes all the way up to the top, to the Pope, right?
00:11:17.140 So your parish priest, your bishop, they're going to be under vows of obedience to the Pope.
00:11:22.500 And that is how the Catholic Church exercises its discipline, frankly.
00:11:29.740 And if you get rejected from that, don't forget, look, if you joined the priesthood when you were 21, if you were ordained when you were 21, and you've been in the priesthood for 20 years, 30 years, 40 years, and you are kicked out of the priesthood, you are kicked out.
00:11:44.420 No salary, pension's always going to be minimal, because, of course, people don't join the priesthood for the cash.
00:11:53.460 People join the priesthood for very good motives, they just get corrupted once they're in that system.
00:11:59.740 So you're kicked out and that's how the church sadly maintains its discipline and I'd suggest Frank Walker that is the reason why the church won't allow the laity or specifically males, male men from reading the homily or the sermon in mass.
00:12:17.940 i will add that for the laity if it's that important um then organize a prayer group in
00:12:24.680 your church the church is largely abandoned and empty midweek organize it if you feel
00:12:29.160 the the holy spirit forcing that women as well right organize your friends together organize
00:12:35.060 a rosary or prayer session or padre peer group in your local church and go and talk off the off the
00:12:41.560 back of say whatever the holy spirit indicates you to say uh on that on that day's um readings
00:12:48.560 but the mass it is uh has a purpose and i always find eventually when people try to modernize it
00:12:55.360 or introduce innovations it's always to the detriment of the of the mass and its important
00:13:00.680 importance in life so in fact that's why i say it's a power play they don't want because look
00:13:05.660 you hear the nonsense that parish priests and bishops are coming out with anyway
00:13:12.080 i would suggest and this is part of something that that i push constantly on this show the 0.63
00:13:18.640 laity need to take back from these hireling shepherds who are running the church into the
00:13:23.860 ground on a provisional basis the the the the strings of the church the levers of the church
00:13:31.800 to right its journey right there the bark of saint peter and then perhaps once the stables have been
00:13:39.040 cleaned and purified to hand it back to holy priests but at the moment as i say these usurpers
00:13:44.920 are intent on running the church into the ground frank walker i think if um i think if you're in
00:13:52.080 your local church if you were able to read the homily on a mass in sunday i think within a couple
00:13:59.700 of months you would have you would double the congregation i don't know what your priest is
00:14:03.380 like your priest might be very good i'm talking sort of generically on what most people will find
00:14:08.660 my priest my parish priest is excellent but most uh you know having some experience in the catholic
00:14:14.100 church most parish priests it's really deeply uninspiring and depressing this is sort of
00:14:20.340 nonsense they can come up come out with on sunday that's why i'm going to come back to the protestant
00:14:24.580 pastor that that we opened with that was my point frank i think the church i think i don't because
00:14:28.820 Look, don't forget, before we move on now, don't forget that the Catholic Church of the Vatican, General Sosa, the head of the Jesuit order, still is, if I'm not mistaken, the Jesuit order of which the late, unlamented Francis of Unhappy Memory was a member of.
00:14:49.440 that guy said in the marriage debates what five ten years ago when people were trying to go back
00:14:55.440 to the words of christ in the gospel he said folks he said it's not as if we had a tape recorder
00:15:00.640 back in those days and could record exactly the very word that christ said right that's that's 0.97
00:15:07.720 these these are these are the modernist scumbags the usurpers who are who are running the church 0.82
00:15:14.020 right now these people are not motivated by any catholic principle so if they're pushing out 0.91
00:15:19.720 something which is pseudo catholic it's a pretext for for something else and that's what i say i
00:15:27.940 think it's it's a straight up power play frank i'm going to come back to you as we move on because
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00:18:36.440 All right, Frank Walker, let's go back on with the show.
00:18:39.540 So the other story then, before we go to the commercial break, I wanted to run past you, was this analysis.
00:18:49.440 And I have to say, even with my own beady, cynical eyes, this was a shock to me.
00:18:56.480 The Vatican, I was talking about laicization earlier, when a priest is ejected by the Catholic Church from the priesthood.
00:19:03.840 The Catholic Church has exercised that function last week.
00:19:09.540 Father, forgive my Spanish pronunciation, Francisco José Vergara Cesarro was great holy priest.
00:19:21.320 And I'm not saying it again, Frank.
00:19:23.300 And that's it.
00:19:24.080 That's my one attempt at saying he will henceforth he will be the he will be for the Francisco for the for the for the rest of this segment.
00:19:32.760 And I'm not saying his surname again.
00:19:34.660 Good holy priest was laicized.
00:19:37.600 He was kicked out of the priest.
00:19:39.080 So this is something his diocese did in 2024, down in Alicante,
00:19:45.820 and that was confirmed by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith,
00:19:51.480 or whatever its new title is, post-Francis.
00:19:55.040 And Frank, my reading on this was,
00:19:58.920 so now at least we've found out what the Vatican won't tolerate from its priests,
00:20:05.860 And what was this guy's sin? What did he do that was so bad? He questioned Pope Francis's legitimacy as Pope, quite strongly questioned.
00:20:16.840 He said the guy wasn't a pope. He wasn't validly elected. Benedict never legitimately resigned. And for that, they have kicked him out.
00:20:24.320 Frank, give me your analysis and thoughts on this holy priest and what the Catholic Church has done to him.
00:20:29.220 that's that's the thing that will do it to you these days you say if you doubt the pope is
00:20:35.140 actually pope then they kick you right out it doesn't really matter what the other things are
00:20:39.260 they find a bunch of excuses so this guy he accused francis of heresy i don't think that's
00:20:43.880 especially what he got kicked out for except for the fact the fact is that you can't be a heretic
00:20:48.440 and be a pope that's just the way it is that's when you finally get down to saying he's not pope
00:20:53.520 that they they really they really they kick you right out and this guy didn't do anything except
00:20:57.980 be Catholic. You can't get away with that now. You know, there's so many thousands of priests, 0.93
00:21:04.100 but if you mention the fact that the Pope is not Catholic and he's preaching things that are
00:21:08.700 against the teaching of the church, so many people don't understand. The church can't change
00:21:13.580 its fundamental teachings. It can change things on the side, but it can't change what it believes
00:21:19.080 is the truth and what it believes is right and wrong, ever, because God's the same God. It's
00:21:24.880 always been. And so when you have a pope that comes around and starts teaching crazy things,
00:21:29.260 and this guy went there and he enlisted, he denied that the new covenant is necessary so that
00:21:36.500 the people who live the old covenant, like Jews, can get to heaven. He denied that adultery is a
00:21:42.460 mortal sin. Now, everybody understands that adultery is a mortal sin, a grave sin. Francis
00:21:49.220 has denied that in moris sotitia and he uh he said that remarried and people living in adultery
00:21:56.060 can go to holy communion the church teaches that you cannot go to holy communion unless you're in
00:22:00.440 a state of grace if you're not in a state of grace for mortal sin you meant to go to confession
00:22:04.940 and repent your sin then you can go to holy communion not according to francis so these
00:22:10.600 the kinds of things he went through let's um let's um let's clarify that you must go to you
00:22:20.100 must go to matt you no no you're absolutely correct but i just wanted to hoover up something
00:22:23.920 here if you are not in a state of grace if you have committed a mortal sin and it's pretty easy
00:22:29.160 to commit a mortal sin if you're going to be scrupulous um and judge yourself objectively
00:22:36.280 if you're in a state of of objective mortal sin you must still go to mass on sunday right that
00:22:44.960 doesn't say you can't just say i'm not going to mass you know i'm in a state of sin i haven't
00:22:49.340 been to confession and therefore i i won't go to mass you are obliged to go and hear mass said
00:22:54.240 on sunday and holy days of obligation what you cannot do as you say frank is go up go and present
00:23:01.060 yourself to receive communion that's what you need to be in a state of grace for that's why
00:23:05.440 to go and and and confess first yeah you don't have to go to communion all the time you have to
00:23:12.820 go to mass but you don't you you're you're not obligated to receive communion yeah and and he
00:23:19.780 also mentioned that god uh francis said that you that god wills all religions that all religions
00:23:25.200 are okay with god now imagine the repercussions of saying that i mean why are we catholic why do
00:23:30.140 go through the the uh the life of being a catholic the the persecutions of it that the the things you
00:23:37.100 have to go through in order to stay in a state of grace that you're talking about if god wills
00:23:40.700 all religions that's a that's a lie and that's against the teaching of the church so things like
00:23:45.420 this is what father that you pronounce his name so well uh has mentioned that father francisco
00:23:52.620 yes and father francisco after listing and there's other things that are that they preach that we're
00:23:56.860 We're not Catholic. So, you know, Benedict's abdication is probably not an abdication.
00:24:02.380 So it was not valid. And so Francis is not valid.
00:24:07.200 And so his cardinals are not valid. These are the things that got him kicked out.
00:24:10.900 Give me a couple of moments then before we go up to the commercial break to say a few things.
00:24:15.960 Firstly, I stand with Father Francisco, right?
00:24:21.820 i stand with that holy priest who's still a priest he's been laocized but he's a priest forever
00:24:27.900 right i stand with that priest i do not think i do not think bergoglio was a validly elected
00:24:35.140 catholic pope the church wants to excommunicate me have at it i'm not gonna i'm not gonna change
00:24:43.340 my mind first point then right i stand with father francisco bergoglio was not a valid catholic pope
00:24:50.740 second point you mentioned uh that the catholic teachings don't change through time because god
00:24:57.760 doesn't change you know what else doesn't change frank walker human nature doesn't change either
00:25:04.180 and that's the important corollary here because you have the modernists who who believe in this
00:25:09.880 sort of hyper-wig concept of progress,
00:25:18.140 belief that humanity develops.
00:25:21.740 Humanity is exactly the same as day one in the Garden of Eden. 0.97
00:25:26.660 And that's why the truths revealed first to the Jews under the Old Covenant
00:25:34.900 and then fulfilled and completed under our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, 0.67
00:25:39.580 don't change either that the problem is with us the solution is with god um and those are the two
00:25:47.260 unchanging truths that are that hold one another sort of that have that relationship um and that's
00:25:56.340 why catholic that's why the cath that's why what i that's why catholic truth can't change those
00:26:01.400 things that the catholic church has defined as necessary um for the salvation of man they can't
00:26:07.380 change because god doesn't change neither does humanity um and again those things frank walker
00:26:12.740 i think you'd agree with me that the modern contemporary institutional catholic church does
00:26:17.420 a very poor job of explaining look just give me um just give me 30 seconds if you wouldn't mind
00:26:24.140 once again about the unchanging nature of god and then we're straight into the commercial break
00:26:28.440 well it's a shame they call it traditional they call it conservative but really it's just old
00:26:33.600 Because like you say, Ben, human nature is over to the problems of the state.
00:26:38.160 God has come forever.
00:26:39.620 So that's one thing.
00:26:41.320 And two, what do we do with priests like this who are Catholic and kicked out?
00:26:44.420 What's the organizing principle?
00:26:45.920 And consider that the FBI and the SPLC were so afraid of the SSPX because they do not want Catholics to organize.
00:26:54.780 That's what the deep state and the globalists are afraid of the most.
00:26:57.660 And we'll do the organizing for them.
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00:30:34.960 sign up for free and be part of the movement welcome back frank walker you just saying to
00:30:41.940 me in the break before we move on that you considered father francisco as an example
00:30:50.220 of a true shepherd who refused to abandon his flock by standing firm in pronouncing
00:30:58.800 the unchanging nature of catholic truth just before we move on to our next our third story
00:31:03.760 Just give me 60 seconds on that, if you wouldn't mind, why you think that is such a valid testimony that he refused.
00:31:11.680 He put his own well-being aside and allowed himself so much sacrificially to be kicked out of the priesthood.
00:31:21.860 Why you think that's so inspiring?
00:31:25.700 Well, because he told the truth.
00:31:28.100 He did exactly what a priest should do, what a Catholic should do.
00:31:31.620 He told the truth. 0.79
00:31:32.700 And we live in such a Nazi world today 0.95
00:31:35.060 that we have no ability to tell the truth 0.83
00:31:37.440 because we do not have a Catholic Pope.
00:31:39.760 Remember what Christ said to Peter, I think it was,
00:31:42.300 Satan has wanted to sift you like wheat to scatter you,
00:31:46.100 but I have prayed for you that you will remain steadfast.
00:31:49.600 The Catholic Church and Catholics like this priest, 0.85
00:31:51.920 they need to be organized around a hierarchy. 1.00
00:31:55.180 And having a hierarchy that's heretical
00:31:58.060 is a fundamental problem that has to be resolved. 0.96
00:32:00.880 and these people that are scattered to the wind like this father from spain like all these different
00:32:06.440 catholics like archbishop vegano for existence for example had the same thing happen they need
00:32:11.420 to be organized and that's the thing that's missing so uh you know that's my message all
00:32:17.160 catholics around the world that give good homilies and that that say the truth and are
00:32:22.040 canceled for it we need to become able to come together somehow and so that's at least be a goal
00:32:27.480 in your mind whether you're catholic or not the catholic church needs to be recovered needs to
00:32:32.800 you know be brought back from this uh catholic spring that the deep state obama state has given
00:32:38.780 us this this corrupt thing and we're going to learn later about the other side of the corruption
00:32:43.300 of what that is what that catholic folk catholic leo church is well at least we have finally found
00:32:51.260 out what you are not allowed to do in the catholic church everything goes everything is permitted
00:32:57.040 right apart from simply holding to the faith of our forefathers um that's not permitted that's not
00:33:06.420 accepted um okay we'll move on now to the third story but i think we might be returning at some
00:33:13.880 point to father and you're right to say that that that the vegano archbishop vegano um was uh
00:33:20.000 was treated in the same way he was um he's been excommunicated i don't think he's um i think he's
00:33:25.440 still an archbishop i think still a priest he's simply been excommunicated for saying exactly the
00:33:30.440 same thing bergoglio wasn't a valid pope we might return to the subject of father francisco
00:33:36.960 vergara because um let's see what happens to him um i think he's what in his late 50s or something
00:33:43.960 uh they might set up a go friend to me for him uh because the guy is materially materially he's
00:33:49.420 gonna have absolutely nothing no home no job uh no at that point in his life he's not gonna have
00:33:55.900 any marketable skills um on anything in the in the circular world uh he has really been cast out
00:34:02.940 let's see if they put his friends uh his parishioners put together some kind of gofundme
00:34:07.120 for him and if they do we'll check it out and if it seems worthy and decent we'll flag it up here
00:34:12.380 on the war room okay so moving on then to the third story today but you know in the last week
00:34:18.860 The same week that the late Cardinal Ruini, the cardinal vicar of Rome, under John Paul II, who held the line so valiantly under the John Paul II pontificate, challenging constantly Italian politics on issues of life and the traditional family.
00:34:44.900 The very week that Cardinal Ruini died in his 95, no he might have been 100, he clocked up the years at any point, Cardinal Reina, the present Cardinal Vicar of Rome has emerged in secret police transcripts talking to his brother and there are certain elements here
00:35:14.260 that caught my attention frank walker when i read of criminal investigations involving and i quote
00:35:22.040 sicilian politicians and businessmen i take that as a code for something in sicily i'm not going
00:35:29.680 to say what it is because frankly um i don't want to finish my days swimming with the fishes um
00:35:39.760 But that's quite clearly understood, and these relationships have taken all the way up.
00:35:48.060 It's all about politics and power, right?
00:35:50.760 You've seen this development, Frank.
00:35:53.920 You've been following it.
00:35:56.380 Well, what are the details here?
00:35:58.040 It sounds pretty astonishing.
00:35:59.040 By the way, I might just say, when the Italian state prosecutor tried to put me in prison, your favourite international editor on trumped-up accusations of fraud, and the Italian state spent several years trying to put me in prison,
00:36:20.820 um before it got to to criminal court i myself had been intercepted by the by the same agency
00:36:29.320 um over over a long period i only found out as i was informed uh by i think human rights um
00:36:36.760 protocols i was informed after the event that i had been intercepted my my my my emails had
00:36:43.400 all been looked at they'd gone down to the bank uh and trawled through uh my bank accounts and
00:36:49.860 the Dignitatis Humanae Institute, bank accounts, looking for anything, any wrongdoing.
00:36:55.160 And after all of that, Frank Walker, they literally found nothing.
00:37:00.440 But they still, in the whole trawling exercise, but they still pushed the case forward.
00:37:05.840 And after four years, the state prosecutor, at the very end, last day of the criminal process,
00:37:11.380 two years ago, stood up in court and said, they asked the judge themselves,
00:37:15.560 the prosecution asked the judge to absolve me because it was clear I hadn't committed any wrongdoing.
00:37:19.860 That's all, as an aside to say, that's what they will do here in Italy.
00:37:26.280 If they're tracking down fraudulent activities, that is what they do.
00:37:32.400 They will intercept you.
00:37:33.320 They'll go there.
00:37:33.900 And the cardinal, before I hand over to you, let me just say what the cardinal vicar of Rome is.
00:37:42.700 It's basically the pope is pope because he is the bishop of Rome.
00:37:47.240 But the Pope, as Pope, is occupied with the running of the whole of the global church, so he can't actually spend day-to-day running his own diocese, so therefore he has a delegate who can't be called Bishop of Rome, because as I say, that is the Pope.
00:38:04.860 there's no titular office effectively in in in the pope in the catholic church as pope the role
00:38:11.820 is is bishop of rome and all the authority that the pope has extend out of the office of being
00:38:18.900 bishop of that specific diocese but on a day-to-day basis is delegated uh to a cardinal
00:38:25.200 the cardinal vicar of rome who has executive authority of the running of that diocese
00:38:29.340 And that's this guy here.
00:38:30.800 And his brother has been intercepted.
00:38:33.800 And there were sort of suggestions of money, politicians.
00:38:38.420 And I quote once again, several Sicilian politicians and businessmen.
00:38:44.160 You and I, we don't want to finish swimming with the fishes, Frank.
00:38:48.540 So we're going to say that and leave it there.
00:38:50.740 Tell me how you're following this.
00:38:53.120 What's been going on down there in the diocese of Rome?
00:38:56.560 Well, like you said, that they caught him in a phone call with his brother, Domenico,
00:39:01.840 Carnorina, his brother Domenico, looking for a job.
00:39:06.340 And he was trying to decide between two health care related positions, one at a clinic and
00:39:11.100 won this contract arranged by operatives that are linked to Forza, Italy, which is the center
00:39:17.280 right party in Italy.
00:39:18.700 Not the not the good right far right, but the center right.
00:39:22.240 And this one, it was going to get 128,000 euros to do sort of like a library thing, like collecting information and saving it.
00:39:34.740 And Cardinal Rain has said, well, I think you should take that one.
00:39:38.560 I think you should take the one for 128,000 euro because it's connected to this person in La Roca, Maggie La Roca, who is connected to the Forza party.
00:39:50.980 and we don't want to make her mad i love that part she's yeah i know i know she's a member i
00:39:58.440 mean anyone who understands how these non-jobs for money money funneling work it's clearly i
00:40:05.940 mean i don't i can't say what this is obviously it's going i want to be sued i live here in italy
00:40:10.500 but um anyone who has any understanding of how these practices work does this does this does
00:40:16.520 this whole thing look fishy to you frank walker did it pass the whiff the whiff test no especially
00:40:22.760 when you say that they checked you out and they and they got all your information that i think
00:40:27.880 when they intercept a phone call i think this is probably exactly what happened like it was on the
00:40:32.300 phone with him and this is what he said and uh um he also then he um then when he sent the like
00:40:40.040 the contract over he says could you please take a look at it maggie because i don't want to get
00:40:44.120 have anything that will get me in trouble.
00:40:46.400 This doesn't sound very professional.
00:40:49.340 At one point, they said that this group that he joined called CEPFUS,
00:40:54.180 which is related to health care,
00:40:56.540 was used to award 75 temporary contracts to the wise children,
00:40:59.880 sons-in-laws, and political associates of members of the same party
00:41:03.580 for no show and no work roles for which they lack necessary qualifications.
00:41:08.340 They're mostly awarded in February, just before the election.
00:41:11.180 I don't quite understand how this helps the election for the Forza party,
00:41:14.020 but I guess having Cardinal Reign on your side helps a lot, you know.
00:41:18.840 Yeah, because the tentacles, the Vatican's tentacles in politics are famous.
00:41:25.720 But even this sounds as fishy as hell, right?
00:41:29.540 You agree with me on this?
00:41:31.880 Mafia involved.
00:41:33.940 You can't say that. You can't say that.
00:41:37.300 You can't say that.
00:41:39.040 Maybe they're nice mafia.
00:41:40.200 I mean, the guy wasn't a hit.
00:41:41.980 They're accused of making hits.
00:41:43.840 but there was a long time ago since then he's probably a lot better now you you can't say that
00:41:50.820 people know that you live you know people know where you live in in florida frank um you're
00:41:56.320 gonna have to start checking behind the curtains you can't use the m word why do you got to rat
00:42:01.560 me out about florida which we just we just we just we just say we say sicilian politicians
00:42:09.220 and businessman
00:42:10.120 I'm sorry Ben
00:42:12.600 I thought you were just kidding about that
00:42:14.740 here in Italy it's understood
00:42:16.280 you know what folks I'm going to do an ad read
00:42:19.340 now because if Frank Walker
00:42:21.240 has the microphone for any longer I really
00:42:23.220 will be sleeping with
00:42:25.400 the fishes and I'm too young
00:42:27.500 for that far far too young
00:42:29.420 to finish up like that
00:42:31.600 so let's once
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00:43:14.460 in all this all right so yeah we've got about a few minutes left we're going to talk about
00:43:18.480 the catholic church how it's been undermining western civilization in um in europe before we
00:43:26.100 you that quickly i want to close off the the previous conversation frank walker i will i will
00:43:31.880 say this right before before you before you say anything else that that will that will that will
00:43:38.460 um end my contract let's put it in use that you use that euphemism um if the cardinal vicar of
00:43:46.500 rome doesn't want to upset these people neither do we um if you know that that's basically my
00:43:52.940 takeaway on that um all right and we're not gonna say and we're not gonna say any more on that we'll
00:43:58.000 do no more godfather jokes or anything like that so um comma say the catholic bishops representation
00:44:05.760 of all europe's catholic bishops conferences in europe has been agitating in favor of the third
00:44:12.080 world illegal invasion yet again what are they up to these people it's certainly not represent it's
00:44:18.180 certainly not representing the flock. Well, there was a piece of legislation that came out of the
00:44:24.040 EU that sounds hopeful about returning them back. And they said they had a lot of bishops that they
00:44:29.760 have reservations about it. And the president of the Comise, Bishop Crociata, he complained a lot
00:44:37.400 about it. He said that procedures for the expulsion of individuals strengthen the cooperation among
00:44:43.320 member states. He doesn't like member states facilitating returns. I think what they do is
00:44:48.100 they have like camps and they'll put them in places like Albania, but, uh, and it's, it's all,
00:44:52.940 you know, it's not good for their dignity. Uh, it's, they, they, uh, they have deep concerns
00:44:58.920 about it. Um, has serious humanitarian questions and they're not caring about the vulnerable and
00:45:05.680 the same old stuff that they always say over and over again. Um, and the fact is I, from what I'm
00:45:10.920 reading that these, this, this whole thing is, doesn't really amount to anything anyway. It's
00:45:14.920 just like the having lay preachers in germany that's going to happen regardless of what the
00:45:18.960 vatican says and they may say they're going to make make it streamline the procedures to deport
00:45:25.520 people in europe but we have to wait and see what actually happens because it usually doesn't quite
00:45:29.680 happen so yeah you know uh they're retreating from the founding values of this new europe that
00:45:36.720 we want to build but when i say that isn't europe already built and it says that they're forced to
00:45:41.720 leave and we're supposed to worry about the root causes and how they're getting threatened to be
00:45:45.260 killed but why in england do they have to worry about why they're getting why they feel threatened
00:45:50.220 in somalia or ethiopia why is that the response isn't that what nations are for this is their
00:45:56.160 whole the bishop's whole idea is you know not national it's against your own sovereignty in
00:46:01.760 your own nation and it's not about courage wisdom and humanity like they say it's just about
00:46:06.600 So it's your thesis then that the Catholic Church, it's a further illustration of how the institutional Catholic Church could not care less about taxpaying Catholics in Europe.
00:46:23.580 They don't even get a look in. It's all about the human dignity of the invaders. 0.77
00:46:27.460 No human dignity involved of Catholics. Yet again, an absolute sellout. 1.00
00:46:32.880 Folks, you might remember from last week the footage, it was on social media of the European Parliament passing this particular invader resettlement programme legislation because the right started chanting, send them back, send them back.
00:46:54.740 and the left in the
00:46:57.240 hemicycle, the European Parliament started
00:46:58.820 this is when the vote took place
00:47:00.980 and the right have actually won something for a change
00:47:03.100 and the left started
00:47:04.560 countering that by chanting shame, shame
00:47:07.400 as the right were
00:47:08.980 chanting send them back
00:47:10.500 it was a glorious moment, absolutely fantastic 1.00
00:47:13.360 but of course the Catholic Church
00:47:14.880 finds itself as always on the wrong side
00:47:16.800 ok, that is the end
00:47:18.960 of the show
00:47:20.400 I just want to
00:47:23.080 Let's just, I mentioned it, I flagged it up at the beginning.
00:47:26.060 And before we come back to Frank Walker, let's just have the final 20 seconds.
00:47:30.200 And for those of you who watched from the beginning, I'll tell you exactly what you've just been witnessing.
00:47:34.900 Quite a remarkable event.
00:47:35.860 Jesus is worthy.
00:47:53.080 Beautiful moment, and if you wonder why the guy, the pastor's voice was so shaking, so crackly, as many people have noticed, sounding somewhat like John Piper, it's not an affectation, that guy had preached for 96 hours solid, that's four days solid, and that was the very end of his preaching, 96 hours.
00:48:20.780 pastor matt olson of the first baptist church in sharon um in mississippi quite an achievement um
00:48:28.620 i think absolutely beautiful uh and i'll say this frank walker i would hate to have to sit through
00:48:34.060 a catholic bishop or cardinal talking for um for for for for 96 hours i think after five minutes
00:48:42.340 i'd sooner put uh put uh put a gun in my mouth but hearing that guy just hearing and i i heard
00:48:48.140 the last try on social media absolutely remarkable and spoke with great conviction so a hat tip to
00:48:55.020 the first baptist church down there uh once again sharon in mississippi huge achievement uh for
00:49:02.500 four days straight of talking about christ and the gospel frank walker you um for us are the
00:49:09.360 Matt Drudge of the trad-catholic sphere. You push out your update seven days a week in real time,
00:49:18.920 your website Canon 2.1. So I look at it myself every day throughout the day to find out what's
00:49:24.180 going on. So I'm prepared for this show that we do every week on The War. And where do people go
00:49:31.480 to that? You also do a video, which is like a sort of eight, nine, ten minute synthesis of all the
00:49:37.740 key stories that people can get tell me about those two things where do people go uh to keep
00:49:42.720 up with you midweek uh to find out what's going on in the catholic church canon 212 it updates daily
00:49:49.980 at that address right there and in the right column you can see the videos but you can find
00:49:54.840 them at rumble and at gloria tv news and also with the stumbling block and uh that's just a
00:50:00.720 it's just the main headlines just for about 10 minutes and uh that way you can get it in a little
00:50:06.540 bit of my take on him what you see that's it it's it's it's a wonderful and inspiring take frank
00:50:13.460 i'll say this you go to that canon 212 website folks it's not you you don't have to it's not
00:50:20.060 bombarding there's one tiny donate button which doesn't even work in the middle of the site this
00:50:25.360 is a labor of love of frank walker he does this for the kingdom um and god bless you frank for
00:50:31.600 for everything you do on that Canon 212.
00:50:34.500 Cannot recommend it to you more highly,
00:50:36.980 War and Posse.
00:50:37.720 It is a great website and it has, as I say,
00:50:39.980 all the key things that we talk about on the show.
00:50:44.520 Steve, back 10 a.m. tomorrow.
00:50:46.580 My thanks, obviously, to Frank Walker
00:50:48.400 and to Spencer today in Real America's Voice in Denver.
00:50:53.000 Take care, folks.
00:50:53.820 God bless for now. 1.00
00:51:01.600 I was born in USA and you spit on my promised land. 1.00