Bannon's War Room - July 10, 2026


WarRoom Battleground EP 1045: When Pope Francis Shook Hands And Welcomed INVADER Who Then Murdered Priest And Burnt Down Cathedral


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00:00:48.040 ben harnwell at the helm on steve bannon's ballroom good evening okay so let me bring
00:01:03.100 on straight away jenny holland and frank walker our regular contributors good evening guys um
00:01:11.540 What we're hitting tonight is something that I think Frank and I, we've been saying repeatedly on this, is the most important event in traditional Catholicism in 38 years, 40 years, which is the Episcopal consecrations of the Precie Society of Pius X, Pope St. Pius X.
00:01:39.080 and as we covered last week with footage the the consecrations took place last Wednesday
00:01:47.300 for shiny new bishops and Frank I remember asking you I don't think there's been any news yet from
00:01:58.180 the Vatican on on the response to this and you said no no no there hasn't been well one day later
00:02:04.200 the news came in, which was on the 2nd of July, the so-called excommunications.
00:02:14.220 It's all a bit of a mess, really, Frank Walker, and I don't quite understand it
00:02:18.180 because you had this decree coming out from the Vatican
00:02:21.260 and then you had an explanatory note coming out.
00:02:24.360 I think the decree relates to, effectively, the bishops
00:02:29.980 that have been, inverted commas, excommunicated
00:02:33.080 and the explanatory note, as incoherent and contradictory as it is, applies to the laity.
00:02:43.200 That's you and me, folks.
00:02:45.760 Frank, why don't you start off just talking us through these excommunications.
00:02:51.340 Who has been excommunicated?
00:02:53.720 What does it mean?
00:02:54.400 I gather these are excommunications, latte sentensi,
00:02:57.640 which basically means they're not punitive excommunications.
00:03:03.080 the Pope out of punishment these are simply formal recognitions that a
00:03:12.180 person has excommunicated themselves by doing something prohibited in church
00:03:18.500 law so what happened then last week does this take the SSPX Society of Pope
00:03:28.840 say Pius X back to where it was 40 years ago is it the same sort of excommunication or is it
00:03:36.120 different and how how does that affect us the laity well there are similarities there's a lot
00:03:44.260 of sort of off-the-shelfness feel about what they did this time and what they did last time
00:03:49.960 and over the years the people have always said that the bishops were excommunicated in 1988 and
00:03:58.440 then that was taken away by pope benedict i suppose i don't know was it 20 years later but um
00:04:05.240 i didn't know what the ins and outs of it were this thing that was uh problem was decreed by
00:04:12.760 cardinal kissy fernandez the soft porn writer and overall creep um it it legally it's it's kind of
00:04:22.480 a big mess is what it is and and why is that why does that happen well in one sense maybe it's 0.94
00:04:27.880 because these people are all just political they're not really they don't really care what
00:04:31.820 they're lawless they don't really care what the law says um but on the other hand maybe it's
00:04:36.140 purposeful either way the decree part of the statement excommunicates the six bishops that
00:04:42.940 were involved and then this explanatory note after sort of generally uh that decrees but says that
00:04:50.780 you know priests will be excommunicated if this laity will be excommunicated if they fully
00:04:57.760 yet here somehow it doesn't explain how that would happen it doesn't explain when there's
00:05:02.560 there's differences as to the timing and you can't make a a judicial decree by way of a note
00:05:08.920 you know it can't it's the decree where these things need to happen and also maybe it's like
00:05:14.240 like the kind of excommunication that you just kind of do yourself but they're not really treating
00:05:19.380 it that way they're treating it as it would be like a case on a case-by-case basis where you
00:05:24.100 get to defend yourself even in the days of the inquisition if you were declared excommunicated
00:05:29.400 you would have a trial you would have a defense none of that seems to be applied here and it
00:05:33.840 and it should be from what i'm reading about it is this kind of is the way this should be handled so
00:05:38.660 as far as the status of priests and lay people it sounds to me like they're really not
00:05:43.400 excommunicated by leo church and this is of course if leo were actually a catholic i mean if leo are
00:05:49.700 i mean if you're if you're a heretic and you're not a catholic and leo defers from the catholic
00:05:55.200 faith on many different areas formally and of course the church fathers say no you can't
00:06:00.040 excommunicate anybody because you're not really you're sort of excommunicated yourself there's
00:06:04.520 many ways to be outside the faith so this is all going to come out in the wash over time but really
00:06:10.780 it's the political impact that matters it's how everybody handles it and of course all of leo's
00:06:15.540 bishops and all of the leftist press are treating it as if it's just de facto that's the situation
00:06:22.100 of course so a couple of things um i need to ask you about because i can't understand what
00:06:30.460 canonical category fully adhere falls into i don't understand it's like full communion and
00:06:38.480 partial communion i have no idea what these these categories are supposed to mean point one but if
00:06:45.000 have any like to shed on that please illuminate me point one point two you say if leo were actually
00:06:50.120 catholic um well i'd for me to be edgy on the war room but i yeah if leo were actually pope
00:06:58.360 uh what one could just gently suggest push out there into into the realms of consideration
00:07:05.800 um all right so tell me what does it what does it mean to be for the laity to fully
00:07:11.080 the sspx is a priestly society right right and we can't roll up and join it without being ordained
00:07:21.360 um into it or without being a member of the of the um of of of religious society basically
00:07:29.720 religious order um it sounds like what they mean is that formally adhere to a different faith as
00:07:36.820 if it were a different faith a different doctrine but i don't i don't understand i don't understand
00:07:41.760 what it means to formally adhere if you go to the occasional sspx mass on sunday is that adhering
00:07:48.760 if you um you don't really explain it ben so we don't really know but it does make it seem like
00:07:58.860 it's two different faiths and they keep talking about it as if it were two different faiths
00:08:02.800 because they say the SSPX doesn't believe the modern church teaching of Vatican II,
00:08:07.820 but Vatican II does not declare any doctrines.
00:08:10.760 It doesn't require that you believe anything different.
00:08:13.100 So how can they require it?
00:08:14.800 You see, it's lawless.
00:08:15.940 And another thing is they say that they're guilty of schism.
00:08:20.040 These priests and bishops are guilty of schism, but they recognize Leo as pope.
00:08:24.960 You know, other traditionalists don't recognize Leo as pope,
00:08:27.580 but they recognize him and they treat him respectfully,
00:08:30.500 and they say oh holy father we you know we we're asking you could you please you know do these
00:08:36.040 things with us so they actually if they're not if they were schismatic they would be not sharing
00:08:41.640 the faith and they do they're accused of it but they they do share the catholic faith and they
00:08:46.560 wouldn't think leo was the pope or had a right to be pope or the pope mattered like for like the
00:08:51.540 like for example the orthodox they're not like that so you you have to i suppose you have to
00:08:59.500 decide for yourself. Now, the people at SSPX, the young people who've seen him with John Henry
00:09:03.600 Weston had a great piece from Switzerland at the event, and they're very positive. They say,
00:09:09.560 nobody can take away my right to be a Catholic. And that's the way they look at it. When you read
00:09:15.600 the press, they're trying to scare people. They're saying, Leo has finally gotten firm
00:09:20.380 and brought the hammer down, and people are going to have to decide at the SSPX. I can't personally
00:09:26.800 imagine anyone at the sspx given the history that they have deciding that they would go to these 0.97
00:09:33.560 masses that are gay pride masses that are polka masses that are where they where they have this 0.73
00:09:39.700 whole different religion because of this uh because leo has laid down the law like at reuters and at 0.87
00:09:46.800 the washington post and all these leftists you know people that write for the national catholic
00:09:51.400 reporter are praising leo's firmness here and and they're all of them to a t are worried about the
00:09:57.620 politics of it because there are many right-wing politicians in europe and they don't mention so
00:10:03.000 much in the united states but the sspx was very integral in getting us out of the lockdowns
00:10:07.660 legally and and they were the ones that were confronted by the fbi and then the republicans
00:10:12.780 in congress defended them so politically you know you're talking about maybe a hundred two
00:10:17.500 hundred thousand people but they're you know you have uh you have uh the right wing in italy the
00:10:23.060 right wing in france members of them are sspx some of them were there at the event this is what
00:10:28.860 terrifies the mainline press the politics of it and uh they're trying to say leo is tough and
00:10:34.260 drinking his I think it's kind of politically tone-deaf seeing a lot of people with his
00:10:46.120 positions they hate the SSPX and why they're um they're so adamant on on saying this is like the
00:10:54.540 greatest schism in history and everybody must now decide which way I think the SSPX have decided
00:10:59.840 And in the months and the years coming forward with these new bishops, we'll see if there's growth, not just with them, but with the whole traditional movement, the ones that Leo still permits to live without attacking, and the people that are traditionalists that are not part of the SSPX.
00:11:15.360 I would think that these people that we've been talking about, these young people, these Gen Azirs, are going to eventually bump into the experts, just maybe give it a try.
00:11:24.320 And that's when they're going to find, a lot of them, what they really have been looking for all along. 0.99
00:11:28.840 you know the the masses that the novice sort of messes are just getting crazier and crazier and
00:11:33.780 people are dropping like flies in terms of the numbers i want to bring jenny in in a moment
00:11:39.140 um just after i give a shout out to our sponsors for the show on this point to do with the um the 0.96
00:11:46.860 numbers here because i've seen some novice order cheerleaders with the pom-poms and you know
00:11:52.960 actually there aren't that many people laity going to the um to the sspx masses um
00:12:01.840 what i'd like from these people are to run the actual numbers properly and apply the same degree
00:12:07.520 of scrutiny to find out how many people are actually going to the novice auto masses on sunday
00:12:12.800 please that is something i would like to know because the mainstream media always plays up its
00:12:17.600 articles you know if you if you're a journalist you're going to write about something you have
00:12:20.240 to show it has dramatic impact. So they say the Catholic Church has like 1.2
00:12:24.020 billion adherents around the world. The Catholic Church does not, take it from me
00:12:31.520 folks, our audience is a very large conservative evangelical sector of this
00:12:39.560 audience, take it from me there are not 1.2 billion Catholics in the world. There
00:12:44.660 might have been one point, there might be 1.2 billion people who are baptized as
00:12:49.160 babies but that doesn't translate into going to mass every Sunday it doesn't
00:12:54.920 translate to going to confession it doesn't translate to obeying and
00:13:00.740 fulfilling in your own personal lives everything on the church has taught for
00:13:06.980 the last 2,000 years as being true that number is a tiny tiny fraction and so
00:13:12.860 when you have the mainstream because the Catholic Church the institutional
00:13:17.300 Catholic Church and its Novus Ordo adherents. That has been in free fall
00:13:23.300 since the Second Vatican Council. It would have perhaps been 1.2 billion mass
00:13:29.680 goers every Sunday had it not been for the council, but the modernists have
00:13:35.420 wrecked the Catholic Church's credibility, not even talking about
00:13:40.640 the clerical sex abuse scandals as well. But they've been driving the church
00:13:45.740 into the ground. So, you know, if you're going to have cheerleaders in the press saying,
00:13:49.640 oh, the SSPX is actually quite small, you know, it might, the 600,000 figure or the
00:13:54.700 1 million figure that those might be sort of slightly inflated, probably only 100,000.
00:13:59.600 Let's have the same scrutiny of the Novus Ordo and compare like with like with the same degree
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00:18:03.760 be the first to act okay um jenny holland you picked up an interesting insight let me bring
00:18:11.040 you in now about that because you've been following this uh and i value what you think
00:18:15.600 because whilst you you have repeatedly on this shown shown a great deal of grace and goodwill
00:18:22.100 to the traditionalist catholic movement of which i don't think you would formally identify yourself
00:18:27.060 as belonging um you have some insights to say from your perspective as a as um as someone who
00:18:36.600 wouldn't consider themselves an expert on the canon law minutiae on this and uh give the
00:18:41.480 microphone over to you now to to share uh this perspective certainly not i'm certainly not an
00:18:48.320 expert uh on canon law um well i thought it was very interesting that the spectator magazine the
00:18:54.280 UK-based spectator, which is sort of like a establishment Tory publication, came out very
00:19:03.320 much in defense of the society, the SSPX. They published an opinion piece by a Canadian journalist
00:19:12.940 calling Pope Leo's actions unconscionable. And it was very helpful for me to read it because
00:19:20.320 um whilst you as you said i'm not a member of the catholic church i'm not catechized i've come
00:19:27.280 from catholic family um but not a um not an official member um i'm more of a a a watcher
00:19:37.580 um but my sympathies are with sspx for a very simple reason and that is because well first of
00:19:46.060 I don't like double standards. But most more importantly, I feel that the true value of the
00:19:53.080 church from a person from the point of view of someone who's very secular and has lived in a
00:19:58.240 very secular world my whole life is precisely in the older traditions. That is where does talk like
00:20:08.100 a Hollywood producer. That's where the magic happens. That is what people who are turning
00:20:12.720 to the church i believe in my opinion are looking for they are not looking for the what you call the
00:20:18.480 modernist church they're not looking for the um acoustic guitars on sunday and the um pride events
00:20:26.520 we have enough of that secular society is full of that the protestant churches are full of that
00:20:31.960 there's plenty of options for people who want that sort of watered down um christianity that
00:20:37.860 makes accommodations to the worst of sort of secular life. So my sympathies are with SSPX,
00:20:47.600 just strictly from an outsider's perspective. So it was very interesting to see the spectator,
00:20:54.360 especially after I noticed on Twitter, a couple of right-wing Catholic accounts that I follow
00:21:00.840 came out in support of Pope Leo. So I've been watching this from afar, very interested.
00:21:06.140 And I just think that if you are going to accommodate the LGBTQ worldview and lifestyle and sort of apparatus, if you are going to accommodate the neoliberal globalist economic program, which we're going to be talking about more later,
00:21:29.260 in terms of migrants and open and supporting open borders and chastising Trump for returning 0.90
00:21:36.080 illegal, as War Room calls them, invaders, then, and you're not, and you are going to punish in 0.97
00:21:42.620 the harshest possible way that a Catholic can be punished, the very people who are trying to keep 0.99
00:21:48.980 the flame, the tradition alive, which is, happens to be the very thing that new Catholics are
00:21:55.600 looking for then this is a very dire situation uh it seems respectfully as an outsider that the
00:22:03.480 church finds itself in it certainly makes no sense jenny um i've made a note of that people
00:22:10.380 are not looking for acoustic guitars and pride flags on sunday the world is full of that very
00:22:15.440 very astute point by the way winston churchill came up um said described of himself and his
00:22:21.760 relationship to the church of england he said i'm not a pillar of the church i'm a flying buttress
00:22:28.200 supporting the church on the outside i think i wouldn't say that's a total overlap from your
00:22:33.800 positions i don't truly think you are an outsider as much as you like um to suggest for that thrill
00:22:40.760 of controversy on air that you are um folks will remember that you came onto this show a year ago
00:22:46.400 saying i'm an atheist but i'm praying the rosary every day and they've been following your spiritual
00:22:51.740 journey along that with great interest, praying you along and willing you along. Folks, stay with
00:22:57.180 us because after the break we're going to come back. Jenny's flagged up this horror story of a 0.99
00:23:02.960 priest that Pope Francis of unhappy memory shook hands with an invader who later not only killed
00:23:14.460 a Catholic priest, but burnt down a cathedral church
00:23:18.340 in France. And the horror story is that on
00:23:22.300 July the 4th, that most important day
00:23:25.640 this year for Americans celebrating quite reasonably the
00:23:29.940 250th anniversary
00:23:34.140 of the signing of the Declaration of Independence, what the world
00:23:38.560 promotes as the first American Pope
00:23:41.520 went to Lampedusa and went through the whole process again
00:23:44.880 say with Jenny, she's going to be asking the question
00:23:47.700 who are they letting in this time and what damage will they do
00:23:50.660 Frank, I had a separate question for you
00:23:54.420 which is where these so-called
00:23:57.040 excommunications do leave the laity
00:23:59.420 especially with regards to this declaration of faith
00:24:02.580 we're supposed to pronounce
00:24:05.940 if we want readmittance to the Novus 0.97
00:24:08.660 ordo regime well folks here's my declaration of faith holy father screw you um and i was
00:24:18.100 going to expand on that sadly sadly jenny mentioned something in what she was just saying
00:24:23.220 frank i really want your take on it because it goes to the heart of so much that is wrong
00:24:28.380 she made the throwaway remark frank walker jenny made the throwaway remark that in checking social
00:24:35.180 media, she discovered that whilst a lot of people were supporting the SSPX
00:24:40.120 consecrations, and you and I on this show have been saying for a year since we've
00:24:44.220 been doing on this show, that the SSPX needed to get round and consecrate new
00:24:48.640 bishops to ensure its future survival. Jenny made the throwaway remark that
00:24:53.720 quite a number of conservative commentators weren't supporting the
00:24:58.360 consecrations, which brings us on, right, totally unplanned, because as I said, I had a
00:25:03.880 different point i was going to make um in the second segment of this first half it brings us
00:25:09.920 on to trad inc our friends frank just give me like two minutes if you wouldn't mind on that that fact
00:25:15.440 that sad reality that so many people very very present on social media were a fact effectively
00:25:22.620 pretending to be trads all along because it helped the grift and it helped the fundraising but they
00:25:29.940 weren't really friends of tradition at all. It's bothering a lot of people on social media to see
00:25:35.420 some people that they had respected not support this. I'm thinking of someone like Taylor Marshall,
00:25:40.600 who's getting in a lot of trouble right now, is a big Catholic podcaster. But the conservatives
00:25:46.120 and liberals, they work together. They call them neocons. And the conservatives tee them up and
00:25:53.440 the liberals win. All of these people at Reuters and at Washington Post, and they mentioned the
00:25:59.920 crux magazine these people were outside the church they were censured and now they are like
00:26:04.980 the mainstream so mega and the catholic church is to the right of what you would call a conservative
00:26:12.720 people don't like to put us in a political area but that's the way it is you know and and the
00:26:18.200 church used to be all about wrecking itself 60 years ago but now they're all about politics
00:26:23.420 the church is about you know a cardinal's blessing gay couples for the 50th anniversary
00:26:27.860 or, you know, the diplomats meeting with sultans in Nigeria
00:26:32.560 saying that they have a lot in common with these people 0.77
00:26:34.960 that are just murdering and burning churches and massacring them.
00:26:40.400 They have the head of Caritas, Cardinal Kikuchi, in Tokyo 0.78
00:26:44.280 saying that Japan needs to accept migrants from Africa.
00:26:47.420 Those are extremely unpopular leftist positions.
00:26:50.620 And that really today is what the church is all about.
00:26:53.220 That's all there is.
00:26:54.220 So traditionalism is not...
00:26:55.860 That is what the church is all about.
00:26:58.580 Stay with us back in two minutes.
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00:32:28.760 Welcome back to Seat Builds, folks,
00:32:30.680 because this second half of the show is going to go so fast frank uh let me just come back to you
00:32:35.780 so you can finish the point you're making that before the ads um you were saying that maga and
00:32:41.340 traditional catholic movement are to the right of conventional conservative catholics
00:32:45.580 um you think let me just i don't want to put words into your mouth but do you agree with me
00:32:49.920 that um maga and the trad catholic movements have a natural convergent point to come together and
00:32:57.580 work together yes because they're not dishonest the conservative position is that you have to be
00:33:03.640 obedient to leo because he's pope but they don't mention the fact that he's not catholic and we're
00:33:09.000 we catholics have minds and we have faith in our hearts and we follow those things that they
00:33:15.820 pretend like that's not an issue and and this is this is their position and all does support
00:33:20.840 the left but the the traditionalists say we're all about tradition i don't really like that
00:33:26.040 but it's true because tradition brings doctrine and they support the doctrine of the church
00:33:33.380 and they transmit that doctrine to new generations so it's so much more than tradition it's about
00:33:39.660 success and it's about the teachings of the true teachings of the church in our minds because we
00:33:45.500 can think and the faith that we've had for thousands of years you can't take that away
00:33:50.320 by lying to us like these conservatives do and they certainly are lying and asking for our
00:33:57.220 donations whilst they do it um just one quick thing right sorry jenny just one quick thing
00:34:03.400 perhaps we'll make well let me throw the point out to you and then we'll hit it next week
00:34:07.580 i don't understand what the severity of excommunication is supposed to be in the
00:34:17.140 mind of the novus ordo catholic regime considering that they no longer teach
00:34:23.200 extraecclesia nulla salus which was the old thrice proclaimed dogma that outside
00:34:28.660 the church there is no salvation the novus ordo regime apparently doesn't
00:34:33.160 teach that anymore in which case so what so what if we're excommunicated anyway
00:34:39.340 look that's that's that's an argument for another but the point is is that the
00:34:43.720 liberals, the progressives, the atheists, the communists who've hijacked the
00:34:48.940 Catholic Church, in the end they've lost any bite that such a disciplinary
00:34:54.760 measure might have in the minds of recalcitrant faithful. And as I
00:35:01.000 say, if they want to say that I'm excommunicated I am not going to be
00:35:05.560 excommunicated, I'm not going to lose five minutes sleep because I've been
00:35:11.920 told I've been excommunicated by people who bow down to pack a mama and and and
00:35:17.440 tell trans couples you know well done congratulations on your marriage they
00:35:23.440 can say what they want and look Jenny I I have got to come to you now and even
00:35:29.200 though I could quite naturally spend the whole show talking over just a hip as
00:35:34.920 Frank Walker says the hypocrisy of the of the nervous order regime which is not
00:35:41.500 Catholic. Okay, so July the 4th, momentous day, and if there's one thing that the Vatican
00:35:50.500 does understand, it's symbolism in front of the television cameras, and there was Pope 1.00
00:35:57.040 Leo off on the rocky outcrop where so many Africans, and I do have pity and sorry for
00:36:04.680 these Africans who are setting off but the fact that they so many people have died in the graveyard 1.00
00:36:12.680 of the sea is their responsibility because they have agency for their actions and I find it really 1.00
00:36:19.540 quite evil and iniquitous of the novice order regime to suggest that I am responsible for the
00:36:30.500 fact that people are dying in the Mediterranean. So you've got this horror
00:36:36.020 story lined up to tell us a bit about. Before we do that I'm just going to go
00:36:39.860 to the video of Pope Leo out on Lampedusa and I'm going to tell you 1.00
00:36:45.540 what he was saying right as he's shaking hands with all of these invaders. I'm 1.00
00:36:50.000 going to do provide my own commentary of what I would say if I were Pope. Denver
00:36:57.140 if you if you please
00:37:04.960 you're going back you're going back you're on the next flight right get
00:37:10.660 your back you're going back for me in through all right okay one voyage you're
00:37:17.280 going back you too mate off you go you're going you're definitely not
00:37:22.360 staying and you okay bye-bye have a lovely trip thanks for the bow you too bye and you off you go
00:37:31.720 safe safe journey home you too bye-bye now bye-bye thanks for staying thanks for your visit
00:37:35.920 lovely to see you take care right the boat's leaving 100 yards down the hello sunny jim you
00:37:42.340 ready to go back bye-bye all right and you mate off you go now that that's what i would do if the
00:37:48.620 holy spirit chose me as pope jenny what you know i don't mean to be facetious we saw the same scenes
00:37:56.740 and i i i bow my head to you for for for for i bow to you for picking up on this because i'd missed
00:38:03.240 it we we saw the same scenes from bergoglio right doing the same shtick one of the people and this
00:38:10.180 is what the internet never forgets one of the people that he was doing what the current guy
00:38:14.500 is doing right now killed a french priest that was actually giving him a home and put him up
00:38:20.660 i think in his own apartment and he burnt down a cathedral church in france you know
00:38:29.740 tell us more well a greater horror story than this is difficult to believe go on what happened
00:38:36.980 yeah i mean before we we talk about what happened in nantes um i just want to say that the video
00:38:43.240 of the video you just showed,
00:38:46.000 and also the video that came out first,
00:38:47.900 which was of Pope Leo sort of clambering down
00:38:51.100 on these rocks and the cape is flying in the wind
00:38:54.060 and he's overlooking the Mediterranean.
00:38:56.620 And it was sort of like,
00:38:57.300 I think they were trying to go for drama.
00:38:59.540 And then this video where he's saying whatever he's saying,
00:39:03.620 not what you were saying,
00:39:05.020 to, as you'll notice,
00:39:06.580 man after man after man after man after man after man.
00:39:10.500 And then at the end, a couple of ladies
00:39:12.180 and then one singular child um really on the 4th of july okay on the 4th of july on the 250th
00:39:20.420 birthday of the united states of america and he is the first american pope and this is what he is
00:39:26.260 uh taking to instagram taking to the gram to show the world really reminded me and i'm going to be
00:39:33.740 very very sort of sassy here so brace yourselves everyone it really reminded me of like the scorned 0.99
00:39:40.100 girlfriend who is like look at me i'm living my best life i don't need you i don't need your damn 0.96
00:39:45.660 250th birthday party i don't care i have new friends that is the vibe that these these posts 0.98
00:39:52.500 are giving um and the in a more serious way all of these men man after man after man after man
00:40:00.140 as someone who lives in the uk who has just been watching um crime after crime happen by
00:40:06.880 allegedly carried out by men coming in into the country in similar ways to these gentlemen here.
00:40:17.880 It's an incredibly bad look. I mean, talk about not being able to read the room, unless, of course,
00:40:23.700 the room in question is the globalist room and not at all the sort of the salt of the earth
00:40:29.140 catholic um community the actual parishioners the actual laity of the church um the people who
00:40:37.380 make the church what it is he is pandering to the to everyone else he's pandering to the globalists 0.90
00:40:44.140 and the elites and he looks very silly he looks very uh like i am better i i don't care about 0.84
00:40:51.300 trump i don't care about trump i'm fine i'm fine um on the birthday of his own nation and he finds 0.85
00:40:57.240 himself in Lampedusa now wait a moment this is also a very bad look and very bad optics
00:41:04.960 because of what you said back in 2020 a Rwandan man lit the cathedral of Nantes which is very
00:41:13.100 beautiful I've been there on fire he was put into prison briefly he was released the following year
00:41:19.280 and he was taken in sort of like a care in the community situation by the priest from the
00:41:25.620 cathedral in Nantes and this Rwandan man had several years prior shook hands with Pope Leo
00:41:31.220 at an event in Rome for the Fratelli year of something or other where it was an event specifically
00:41:37.480 for the socially excluded he goes on to burn the church in Nantes when he gets out of prison for
00:41:43.640 that he goes to the generosity of the priest and is housed by the generous priest of the same
00:41:49.420 church that he burned and he murdered the priest and he is now serving 30 years in jail
00:41:55.480 There is a reason that man was socially excluded, I would like to point out, to the Vatican. I'm sure there was a couple of wretches at that event for the socially excluded that were really hard done by, and everyone deserves mercy in God's eyes up to a point.
00:42:11.520 but what about other people what about the victims of these people's crimes the crimes
00:42:17.420 just keep happening the liberals become more and more suicidal with in terms of empathy or i would
00:42:24.100 actually call it and this is this is really going to send me straight to hell this is the pope
00:42:29.320 exhibiting moral vanity and it's appalling um and it's um it's hard to watch it's actually hard to
00:42:39.240 watch okay all right and firstly denver could would you mind just you've got the um the article
00:42:44.860 say that uh that jenny was referring to about the the burning of the church in nantes and um
00:42:51.500 the murder of the priest the i think he was stabbed the brutal stabbing of of the priest you
00:42:56.880 know it's a tragedy but at the end of the day you can only weep so many tears for people's 0.99
00:43:02.560 naive stupidity uh thanks very much that's it that's the horrific thing that that that church 0.97
00:43:08.280 I think is four times older than the United States, burnt down by an invader who went on to murder the priest who was the priest of that church, who gave him a roof over his head and he went on. 0.98
00:43:22.760 And this guy, I think you've got the photo of it, this guy, the guy who did this, the photos there of him shaking hands with Bergoglio, with Pope Francis when he was welcomed into the country. 0.62
00:43:38.280 Alright, that is a metaphor for the suicidal nature of the pro-invasion policy of the Vatican.
00:43:51.120 Jenny, I have to again tip my hat to you.
00:43:54.160 You have nailed it a thousand percent in your description of what Leo was doing on July 4th this year.
00:44:03.860 It was exactly that. It was the scorned girlfriend posting under the assumption that her ex was going to be seeing and watching.
00:44:16.380 And she's saying, look at me live my best life without you.
00:44:19.900 That's what he was doing at Lampedusa when everybody of importance, every American of importance was in America celebrating the 250th birth of their anniversary.
00:44:32.320 he did send some platitudinous um statement i thought which completely missed the point of
00:44:37.740 america but it was it was it wasn't even platitudinous it was actually kind of borderline
00:44:42.240 insulting it was it was contemptuous i mean it's really shocking that the first american
00:44:47.700 pope did not return to america for such for such a momentous birthday i mean that is really
00:44:54.960 that's that is such a uh slap in the face and such a misread when the American Catholic I mean you
00:45:05.780 guys tell me my impression was the American Catholic uh community community the late the
00:45:11.500 American lady is extremely um sort of influential and and and beloved um and I my understanding was
00:45:21.080 that they were quite influential in even getting him into that position of pope maybe i'm wrong
00:45:25.900 about that please correct me um but the you so on that day you don't even go to the american embassy
00:45:32.800 in rome you go to lampedusa frank walker jenny's sticking her finger right in the raw wound of trad
00:45:42.940 ink here because trad ink she's absolutely right trad ink had a had a role to play um in in the
00:45:50.840 college of cardinals in the election of um the francis look um we've we've got five minutes left
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00:47:34.860 promo code bannon jenny holland in the closing minutes of the show you flagged up one article
00:47:43.300 in the mainstream press of about which the interpretation i have certain question marks
00:47:49.560 but it's there's a store there's a church um is it out in missouri where is it that was that was
00:47:56.020 actually closed down um and after a turnaround after an intervention it now has 700 mass goers
00:48:04.440 every sunday how did they go from abandoned and closed down to thriving and standing room only
00:48:14.280 what did they do well you'll never guess ben um they started to offer the traditional latin mass
00:48:21.040 um and that fixed it that literally fixed it um like you said it was uh abandoned after sort of
00:48:30.340 demographic changes in the area um in 20 years ago more than 20 years ago um and it was going
00:48:37.820 to be sold it was a it was a ruin and it is it is a cathedral so it's a very grand beautiful
00:48:43.160 from the pictures extremely beautiful building um and cardinal raymond leo burke um had instituted
00:48:51.620 the latin mass as its as its mass as a fixture on a sunday um and the parish has gone from strength
00:49:00.200 to strength um 21 years later it is no longer on the brink of ruin is like you say um welcoming
00:49:08.260 700 parishioners worshipers every sunday which sounds like a very large number to me um now
00:49:15.420 again this goes back to every single thing we were saying thus far in the show um the the devotion
00:49:21.960 that amongst the people okay amongst the people the lady the ordinary man and woman the salt of
00:49:29.260 the earth i know i use that phrase a lot the energy and the devotion is with the latin mass
00:49:35.040 now it's i'm not saying that people who go attend the nova zordo don't have the worship or the
00:49:41.880 devotion they do whatever that's not what i'm saying but there is there is so much energy with
00:49:46.820 the latin mass and families and communities find it extremely nourishing extremely healing extremely
00:49:53.660 powerful. And you just hear this over and over and over again. The numbers overall, I read
00:50:00.520 somewhere, I think it was like 2%. So it's a small number of people who do attend a Latin mass.
00:50:05.980 But it's an issue of quality over quantity at this point. And again, the church hierarchy,
00:50:13.760 the church elite refuses to see this, refuses to accept this, and just keeps on turning its back
00:50:21.860 to these people to its own flock over and over and over again um and and essentially treats them
00:50:28.620 sometimes with even with contempt it's because it's because they hate you they're they're driven 0.57
00:50:33.420 by a supernatural preternatural contempt and hatred for any semblance of the the catholic
00:50:41.240 faith um so there you go cathedral church closed down and abandoned 21 years ago
00:50:48.720 intervention by Cardinal Burke, reinstation of the traditional Latin mass
00:50:54.060 and now it's sort of thriving and standing room only.
00:50:57.460 The lesson doesn't seem to be learned, not least over in Washington
00:51:00.840 where the news came out, I think today or yesterday, Frank Walker
00:51:03.740 that Cardinal McElroy signed an order prohibiting the construction
00:51:12.100 or installation of altar rails to stop the laity from kneeling at mass
00:51:18.640 in the novice auto in the novice auto right one would presume because it's pretty difficult to go
00:51:24.260 to a tlm these days that just go that just goes yeah the the new the new regime it it's only
00:51:33.800 focused on what it can do to maximize driving people out of the church um no no no these these
00:51:40.980 people are are usurpers frank walker social media where do people go to keep up with you um your
00:51:47.340 analysis that you put out every day in video form but also uh canon 212 which is the catholic
00:51:54.160 answer to matt brudge yeah that and and twitter is canon 212 spelled out on twitter x and then
00:52:00.640 there's a daily update on the right hand side and canon you can click it there or you can see it on
00:52:05.020 rumble and at gloria tv gloria tv you do do an absolutely superb daily summary jenny holland
00:52:13.440 social media you're you're really taking off on social media your analysis on these things
00:52:18.840 uh where do people go for you on substack uh jenny e holland at substack dot sorry dot
00:52:27.200 substack.com and youtube at saving culture from itself excuse me um i'll let you go jenny so you
00:52:34.740 can get a glass of water thanks very much folks um we'll be back same time next week to continue
00:52:40.280 the shockwaves of the SSPX
00:52:43.100 consecrations and excommunications
00:52:45.400 and what it means for us, the laity.
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