00:08:48.960This is her second mandate, I think unprecedented, to have a second mandate for the president of the commission, but pushed by the European People's Party.
00:08:57.980Again, that's your political faction in Brussels.
00:09:02.500So you have this interesting phenomenon.
00:09:04.560You have this coalition between the Greens, which are basically former communists, and the Christian Democrats that are supposedly on paper sent to rights, but not particularly.
00:09:18.960are ganging together with, let me come on to this.
00:09:26.260You've got these two parties ganging together against the Patriots, right?
00:09:31.880Now, the segment here that I do want to ask you about,
00:09:36.480the group that's missing in all of this is the Conservatives and Reformists group,
00:09:41.100the ECR group, which is Georgia Maloney's group.
00:09:45.680They don't seem to be involved in this,
00:09:47.660But the other patriots do. And I'd like to draw the dots here, because what unites the European patriots, which is Viktor Orban's faction in the European Parliament, which is, I think, the third largest group, and Europe's sovereign nations, which are probably to the right, I think it's fair to say, of the Orban faction, is that they are both extremely NATO sceptic.
00:10:13.660and that's the difference between the other big nationalist faction which is the ecr group the
00:10:20.580european conservatives and reformists which is maloney's faction she was the president of that
00:10:25.760group um up until recently because that is not nato centric so i wonder here luke and i'd like
00:10:32.520i let me get your take on this before we move on to the next story do you think that that is
00:10:37.000a dynamic of what's going on here because increasingly the nationalist movements in
00:10:43.700europe are trying to to to to to view nato with a certain degree of skepticism because what they
00:10:52.580want to do is um withdraw from unnecessary military adventures and have their countries
00:11:00.860promote effectively a policy of neutrality where necessary if no national interests are being
00:11:08.920invoked here then like italy for example um to promote a policy of neutrality you know and we
00:11:16.120can we can cite obviously the ever cited presence of russia here let's let me ask you that before
00:11:22.660we move on do you think that that is um an establishment maneuver here the hard left
00:11:29.460The centre-right, presumably Maloney's faction, is going to be neutral in this,
00:11:34.520but specifically targeting the funding of the NATO sceptic political movements in Europe.
00:13:43.560Also, because considering the situation, President Trump has a lot of reason to say what was
00:13:50.560affirmed in the last meeting, and the interest of the United States now is more focused on
00:13:58.560as nation, but also South America and Central America
00:14:05.040as natural geographical region where USA should determine
00:14:18.700also the future of many, many countries.
00:14:22.920All right, Luca, we're going to move on to the next story in our list.
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00:17:17.240let me ask you, as I mentioned in your introduction, your political background.
00:17:23.520Now, you were first a member of parliament in Italy. I know you don't look nearly old enough,
00:17:28.160but you were a member of parliament 30 years ago, first elected in 1996 in the Italian parliament.
00:17:35.660And I mentioned that I think you were the leader of the Christian Democrats, which was then a political force, a historic post-war political force in Italy.
00:17:47.980um why um and you were the leader on the basis of what you did in the italian parliament you
00:17:55.560were then elected by the other christian democrat parties um in strasbourg to lead the group in the
00:18:05.700council of europe parliamentary assembly so your background is firmly christian democrat
00:18:10.500and european people's party both the story that we were talking about before however and the story
00:18:17.480we're going to talk about now these are really stories that indicate um your support for the
00:18:26.160political movements led for example by Viktor Orban um up until recently in Hungary his Fidesz
00:18:35.140uh party um and you have some support for General Roberto Vanacci um here in Italy uh who's leading
00:18:46.420the new faction to the right of Giorgia Maloney's Brothers of Italy.
00:18:53.600Just tell me something about your political journey,
00:18:55.580because we saw one another, we were still very much motivated
00:19:00.860by the same principles that brought you into public life 30 years ago
00:19:06.440as a disciple of Rocco Butiglione, who was also a mentor to me as well.
00:19:13.940you're still very very much inspired by bringing these the catholic values of pro-life and pro-family
00:19:20.180in the public square but why are you now sort of talking positively about for example general
00:19:28.300vernacci or victor orban or the the european um uh the the european patriots in the in the
00:19:37.000or the european sovereign nations in the european parliament that they're not political movements
00:19:41.780that are traditionally your political family, their rivals.
00:20:30.280and surely some people in the ASN party that could represent values
00:20:39.240that were teached to us by John Paul II, Benedict XVI and many others.
00:20:49.380Let me just make sure I've got what you're saying right here.
00:20:54.800So you're suggesting that the Catholic pro-life, pro-traditional family values that motivated you in politics that you were fighting for as a Christian Democrat,
00:21:06.780you now see that the best possibility of fighting for those values would, say, perhaps be in the nationalist movements in Italy led by General Vernacci.
00:24:49.680The war room audience, our largely American audience, we have an international audience, but it's largely the lion's share of our audience is in America.
00:25:02.660I have mentioned General Vanacci a bit on air. Steve has mentioned him.
00:25:08.500That will probably, however, be a new name for our American audience that they won't necessarily be familiar with.
00:25:15.520They will have heard of Matteo Salvini. They will have heard of Giorgia Maloney.
00:25:21.260Those will probably be the two names that have the highest residence of Italian politicians in America.
00:25:28.460They won't have heard necessarily of General Venacci.
00:25:33.180One of the reasons I wanted you to come on today, Luca, was just to say a bit about this,
00:25:37.820because this is a name that people should be listening out for.
00:25:40.820Because if Italian politics goes in the way that many people are predicting, that his political movement, as I say, he's to the right of Giorgia Maloney.
00:25:53.380And the press think that Giorgia Maloney is far right, incorrectly.
00:25:59.180but the importance of his presence on the italian political scene is up until now georgia maloney
00:26:07.720who in september will be italy's longest serving post-war prime minister she has never had anybody
00:26:14.740on her right flank to challenge her and so basically the day after she became prime minister
00:26:20.400she moved to the center now she has someone who's a former military general a paratrooper
00:26:25.780commander very credible figure and the italian military's beloved um in italy this could be a
00:26:34.440name general roberto vannacci could be a name to fundamentally transform a rather complacent
00:26:41.880italian political structure we'll be back with luca volante in two minutes after this quick short break
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