Bannon's War Room - August 05, 2026


WarRoom Battleground EP 1061: Tonight’s Show — The State Of The Relationship Between The West (And The Catholic Church) And Islam


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00:00:00.720 Stephen Yaxley-Lenin, known to his hooligans as Tommy Robinson.
00:00:04.960 Stephen, there is a crowd outside rioting against you tonight, and without the protection
00:00:10.560 and generosity of a Muslim Palestinian president and a mostly South Asian executive committee, 0.96
00:00:17.760 you would be quite literally cooked. 0.98
00:00:19.200 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on
00:00:35.420 these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have
00:00:42.020 had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything
00:00:45.780 the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people
00:00:49.360 like that go to share the big line? Mega Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people
00:00:57.180 had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save
00:01:04.840 my country, this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. 0.62
00:01:15.780 wednesday 5th of august anno domini 2026 hornwell here at the helm on steve bannon's womb let's
00:01:27.520 bring in frank walker and jenny holland straight up at the the beginning hi guys jenny welcome back
00:01:34.180 as always i know you've had a couple of weeks off swinging the lead hope you're back refreshed
00:01:39.300 bright-eyed bushy-tailed ready to go with your uh your analysis yeah you know i i'm lost for words
00:01:47.960 it's great um okay so whilst you in your in your absence civilization has been collapsing
00:01:55.360 i'll brief you now what's happened since you've been off skyring well civilization has been
00:02:00.440 collapsing here in occupied europe start off with images have been flittering basically on anybody
00:02:07.100 anyone who's got a smartphone has been looking at the images and the videos on social media
00:02:10.960 of upwards of 50,000, 60,000 North Africans, and not only North Africans, Sub-Saharan Africans
00:02:22.200 as well, pouring in via Morocco into the Spanish enclave of Teuta, sovereign territory of Spain
00:02:31.660 for about 500 years.
00:02:34.160 And everybody thought, including me,
00:02:37.840 well, here, this is what they're going to do to disperse
00:02:41.160 very quickly this 500,000 in a tiny little enclave
00:02:45.400 across the European Union 0.98
00:02:46.900 because they won't be able to send them back
00:02:48.940 because we've heard this repeatedly 0.85
00:02:50.460 from our sociopathic overlords.
00:02:54.820 And, of course, you know, only the war room
00:02:58.560 can turn a story about spain and morocco into one about phony maloney and italy but it folks bear
00:03:07.280 with me you'll see why this is necessary because look jenny you spend half your time here in italy
00:03:13.580 anyway right you you grew up here the um you'll know better than everyone you can corroborate
00:03:20.700 what i'm saying phony maloney whom you who you like by the way by the way war room posse
00:03:26.180 you'll always get a defense of phony maloney from from jenny holland right phony maloney has spent
00:03:32.180 880 million of taxpayers euros that's what is that it's about 850 million dollars or something
00:03:43.040 um with these uh repatriation schemes deportation schemes processing schemes in albania um in her
00:03:52.940 five years of being in office and this is her big policy success is that she's now established these
00:03:59.820 these centers in albania how many people has she processed via these centers in albania having spent
00:04:07.900 880 million taxpayers euros 111 people that's what phony maloney has done you wouldn't know
00:04:18.220 that was basically nothing by the enthusiasm which she pushes this out on twitter um and social 0.86
00:04:25.500 media to her adoring fans who um let me indicate her adoring fans who lapped this kind of thing up
00:04:32.860 but they're flooding into italy and she's got rid of 111 illegals in five years via albano
00:04:39.940 park out there she says well i can't do any more she says because ursula because dublin treaty
00:04:46.020 And oh my, didn't our jaws drop to the floor when we saw these images of 500,000, 600,000, excuse me, 50,000, 60,000 Africans pouring into Ceuta?
00:05:04.360 because within 24 hours, the Spanish government,
00:05:08.040 the Spanish socialist government, by the way,
00:05:10.720 had kicked basically 48,000 of them back within 24 hours.
00:05:17.960 They opened the door, the back door,
00:05:19.820 and they said, out you go into Morocco.
00:05:22.720 And Morocco, of course, accepted them.
00:05:24.880 So clearly behind the scenes,
00:05:27.320 because this could have brought around the collapse of the government in Madrid,
00:05:30.000 I think, if they didn't handle this properly.
00:05:32.860 um obviously somebody in the spanish government spoke to somebody in morocco and made them an
00:05:41.120 offer they couldn't refuse i would suggest that i you know steve says i i always throw around my
00:05:49.360 cynical beady eyes on these things but i'm sure the phone call went something like and who do i
00:05:53.820 make this check payable to and lo and behold lo and behold morocco said yeah there i'll send them
00:06:00.760 back and they all went back within 24 hours what we all thought was impossible so that's what you
00:06:06.580 have missed jenny um since you've been um off uh on on the sun beds of uh of europe what what's
00:06:17.560 telling the worm oh i'm working on a book um i was and i sent it in ben i will have you know
00:06:24.100 well jenny holland's been working on a book from the sun sun lounges of europe i am quite sure um
00:06:32.280 because you don't jenny you don't look this good by being in a basement on a computer
00:06:37.640 um i don't yeah i'm not entirely sure why i look quite as bronzed as i do i you do you do i can't
00:06:44.660 but that's not what the show is about don't worry don't worry my cynical beady eyes have their own
00:06:53.180 theories how you look having spent a couple of weeks off you come back looking bronze and relax
00:06:58.100 I have my own theories as to how that's taken place anyway so that's what's happened and that
00:07:03.380 folks uh to bring you all up to speed that's what we're going to be talking about now first off the
00:07:07.900 show and usually today we're going to bring together several stories together uh thematically
00:07:13.520 together but not necessarily narratively together and we'll just be talking about what's going on
00:07:18.920 specifically the relationship, the state of the relationship between the West, open brackets, the Catholic Church, close brackets, and of course, the ever-present Islam. 0.93
00:07:32.360 So that's where we are. Let's start off. 0.99
00:07:34.880 Now, why don't we, Jenny, I'm going to come to you, actually, because you sent in the video clip.
00:07:41.700 Let's play the video clip again, which we played in the cold open.
00:07:45.460 It's quite short, 20 seconds long. I think this is a perfect metaphor.
00:07:48.920 a perfect metaphor of how the the uk has become um has dimmy dimmified itself totally to islam 0.95
00:08:02.340 um jenny i'm going to steal all your talking points let's watch it again and you can tell us
00:08:08.240 why you think this was so illustrative um and helpful to inform the debate we're going to have
00:08:13.780 on the show today. Stephen Yachtley-Lenin, known to his hooligans as Tommy Robinson. Stephen,
00:08:20.480 there is a crowd outside rioting against you tonight, and without the protection and generosity
00:08:25.980 of a Muslim Palestinian president and a mostly South Asian executive committee, 0.89
00:08:32.200 you would be quite literally cooked.
00:08:34.060 so jenny this is oxford union i i i take it uh one of the like like cambridge university
00:08:46.780 union one of the two establishment breeding grounds for establishment politicians basically
00:08:53.400 they either go to oxford or cambridge they go through um like our present prime minister
00:08:57.320 actual prime minister in this moment they go through they they do their um these two universities
00:09:01.880 Many of them join the union, hone their debating skills.
00:09:05.800 This is where the establishment, the British establishment, hones its debating skills and prepares itself for public life.
00:09:13.020 What did we just see there in that clip? And what's the importance of it?
00:09:18.460 So this was the opening of a debate that was held in June of this year at the Oxford Union, like you said.
00:09:27.440 And the young woman at the podium is, I think, a member of the executive sort of leadership, student leadership of the debating society.
00:09:36.880 And I believe she is South Asian. Her last name is Khan, I think.
00:09:41.520 So I'm guessing she's Pakistani of Pakistani origin. 0.84
00:09:45.060 And the theme was, is Islam a threat to the West? 0.83
00:09:49.020 And this girl, in her infinite wisdom, decided to open her remarks in which she was countering the motion that Islam was a threat to the West by gloating and almost in a flirtatious, provocative stance to the three white Englishmen who sat opposing her,
00:10:12.840 tommy robinson um laurence fox and jonathan sacerdoti i'm not sure how to pronounce his
00:10:20.040 last name um uh saying that had it not been for her and her her friends her mates her her peers
00:10:28.240 good graces and generosity all of them being muslim all of them being either south asian or
00:10:33.900 she mentioned the president of the oxford union at the moment is another woman who is from palestine
00:10:40.060 who was Palestinian, that Tommy Robinson would be murdered by the mobs of Islamists
00:10:50.900 rioting outside the hall where they were all sitting. 0.63
00:10:55.280 And this, to me, demonstrates a couple of things.
00:10:58.020 One is that the elite institutions of the United Kingdom, much like they have, I would
00:11:05.140 imagine, in the rest of Europe, but certainly in the United Kingdom, have essentially bent 0.86
00:11:09.460 over for a new rising elite that happens to be, if you want to be liberal about it, third world 1.00
00:11:19.320 Muslim second generation arrivals who feel very much entitled to the spoils of the culture that 1.00
00:11:28.960 was built by people not like them, I'm afraid. It was built by ethnic English people. And they 1.00
00:11:35.900 feel very entitled, in fact, like it's their duty to kind of saunter into these vaunted halls and
00:11:43.040 these almost sacred spaces and say, I'll be taking that from you, thank you very much,
00:11:48.680 while all the craven liberals clap like seals. Watching this video last week really was sort of,
00:11:54.780 I could feel the last liberal sort of breath leave my body. It hardened my heart in a way
00:12:02.420 that almost nothing has, even as we see all these horror stories about the effects of immigration.
00:12:10.320 And, you know, this is from someone who I am myself as a sort of bi-national. I have been,
00:12:15.480 I've lived as a foreigner overseas and I've done all of these very liberal things. But I think
00:12:20.800 what's happened is that the liberal order, and maybe more correctly, the sort of neoliberal 0.98
00:12:27.200 world order, has created a world in which it was encouraged to crap all over the Christian 0.89
00:12:35.120 heritage of these nation states. And so when these new arrivals came in, you know, going back 1.00
00:12:42.480 several generations now, they felt no duty, unless they felt as a matter of personal integrity,
00:12:49.780 which a lot of them did. But those who didn't had no duty to conform or to pay lip service
00:12:56.780 to this society that was built by Christian values and that was built by English ethnic English people
00:13:03.220 at great sacrifice over centuries and centuries. And this is the upshot of it. I mean, when I first
00:13:10.120 saw this girl, because she seems very stupid, like she seems like she's not very smart. So me, 0.99
00:13:15.060 I'm like wondering why, how is she in Oxford Union in the first place? And, and her, her glib
00:13:21.820 threats her taunting i just thought this this girl is no better than an orc in a sparkly dress 0.99
00:13:28.520 this is a vile provocation and a and a sort of spiritual and moral insult and just watching the
00:13:36.020 three men the three englishmen sit there um and you know this sort of wry smile passes over lawrence's
00:13:41.860 fox's face and he raises an eyebrow they're so used to being demonized in the case of tommy
00:13:47.380 Robinson, you know, prosecuted through the courts and imprisoned for lengthy time and
00:13:51.820 threatened and dragged to hell, basically, for standing up for their own countries as
00:13:58.320 they see them.
00:13:59.780 And yet they're constantly expected to sit down and shut up because there's a new sheriff 0.99
00:14:03.900 in town and she's brown and she's Muslim. 0.99
00:14:07.260 Now, this person is not worthy of the title. 0.99
00:14:10.560 This person is not worthy of the post.
00:14:12.200 This person hasn't been given the proper training and the proper education to rise through the ranks on merit.
00:14:19.540 She got there through subterfuge and woke ideology.
00:14:25.000 Wow. OK. So Lawrence Fox is sitting there with a twinkling in his eye because whilst he's used to being ripped to shreds by aggressive audiences, he's not particularly used to.
00:14:39.440 I've got to quote you on this.
00:14:41.300 I've got to come back and bring this up.
00:14:42.780 One of the best metaphors I've ever heard on the warm.
00:14:45.600 He's not so used to being ripped to shreds by an orc in a sparkly dress.
00:14:50.740 All right, look, I'm going to come.
00:14:52.440 That was a superb analysis, Jenny.
00:14:54.300 Many thanks.
00:14:54.740 I'm going to come to Frank Walker in just one moment.
00:14:58.000 First of all, however, a quick shout out to this halfway point in the show to our sponsors.
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00:16:52.400 All right. OK, Frank Walker, what's on the themes of the Islamification? 0.75
00:17:00.000 What did Jenny just say? She said that a neoliberal order had crapped all over the Christian heritage of our nation states.
00:17:10.260 What in this week in capitulation, either from the West or the Catholic Church specifically, vis-a-vis Islam has caught your eye?
00:17:21.040 well the the church is united in the way that they're addressing these things on both sides
00:17:27.420 of the pond we there's a lot of news in in america about texas mosques and about new mexico mosques
00:17:34.720 and there's a story of uh archbishop western new mexico is promoting the development of a mosque
00:17:40.520 and there's a local mosque community where one of his priests tasered somebody who resisted it
00:17:46.280 And they all come back to the same thing. Religious freedom. Everybody has a right to religious freedom.
00:17:53.000 And if you're a Catholic, you understand that because of Vatican II.
00:17:57.060 Vatican II is a recent council just, you know, 60 years ago.
00:18:02.700 But there are things in Vatican II that are not Catholic. Vatican II is sort of like a communist takeover.
00:18:08.820 And they had a bunch of stuff they had put together. And then all of a sudden, the last minute, it all changed.
00:18:12.720 but it was never proclaiming any new church doctrine and so the things in it that are not
00:18:17.760 catholic like this push for religious freedom they're not really catholics aren't really bound
00:18:22.860 by them but all of the catholics on then that rule the church now they pretend as if they are
00:18:28.200 and even in spain when they had and and credo where they had the um the 60 000 come come ashore
00:18:35.400 that they were still the same way about it we need to because of vatican 2 and religious freedom we
00:18:40.480 have to do that. And I think that you ask, what are the relationship between Islam and the church
00:18:46.980 and the West? I think the biggest theme is a sleight of hand, because like we mentioned, 1.00
00:18:53.400 the Takiyah says to be not honest with people who aren't of Islam. And the bishops are the same way. 0.94
00:19:01.620 They're united with Islam. The bishops are pretending to be Catholics. And so I think
00:19:07.100 the biggest problem that the west has in defending you know the only defense of catholicism against 0.99
00:19:12.500 islam is in the people in spain it's the vox party and the and the all of the the the catholic 0.89
00:19:19.340 hierarchy and the catholic academics they're all on the side of islam and people are acting like 0.78
00:19:25.220 religious freedom requires that we are gentle with islam because they're gentle with us because 0.87
00:19:30.300 of human nature and catholic teaching this is what they throw at us but this tommy robinson 0.92
00:19:34.360 video, you can see that the message from Islam to Tommy Robinson is, you exist at our mercy. 0.87
00:19:43.780 You exist at our mercy. And that's exactly the way Islam teaches. And so we wait and wait and wait 1.00
00:19:50.100 until they've conquered. Like at Oxford, you can see that they've conquered. And then we find out
00:19:55.800 what the real religion is. So religious freedom does not really apply to Islam. Religious freedom 0.89
00:20:01.460 apply. It's just an idea from the American Constitution that says you can't have a state,
00:20:06.500 a national religion, but it's been expanded all the way into Catholic teaching somehow.
00:20:12.980 And now we have to pretend that these people that would have us either comply,
00:20:18.360 submit as it's on means, or you will die, or you're cooked. And that's not a funny thing to
00:20:23.700 say to Tommy Robinson, because I know it's over the top, but like Christ, he realizes every day
00:20:28.720 that he could be dead. He offers his life every day. He is under threat all the time. And that's
00:20:33.380 not something to applaud or joke about, but that's what we're dealing with. It's a sleight of hand
00:20:38.140 and we need to know who are our enemies because like Jen says, they crap on Christianity. So 0.99
00:20:44.020 we're afraid to defend it, but we don't realize the Catholic church is our enemy and Islam is our 1.00
00:20:50.540 enemy. And to pretend otherwise that we need to give them freedom, or we need to listen to these 0.93
00:20:55.720 liars and these thugs that are taking the place of the Catholic Church, these bishops who pretend 0.72
00:21:01.540 in Takiyah to give us the truth, is just a mistake. We need to realize who our enemy actually 0.96
00:21:09.060 is. I mean, it's just so upsetting to see that, but it's happening over here in the United States
00:21:14.140 all the time, and the Catholic Church is behind it in every place, in Detroit and in New Mexico
00:21:19.480 and in Texas and everywhere. 0.58
00:21:22.960 It's happening overnight, really,
00:21:24.820 when you look at what's happening.
00:21:27.040 Frank, I noticed that the Catholic Church intervention
00:21:31.220 in Feuta, in that Spanish enclave,
00:21:36.300 was everything it said was about the human dignity
00:21:39.460 of the invaders.
00:21:41.660 There was nothing whatsoever about the dignity 1.00
00:21:45.980 of hardworking Spanish who would have to pay for this,
00:21:53.020 even though many Spanish, working-class, regular Spanish people
00:21:58.420 can't make it to the end of the month. 1.00
00:22:00.640 No dignity reference to them.
00:22:03.760 Tell me again what you said at the beginning about this bishop,
00:22:08.160 the archbishop, I think you said, in New Mexico,
00:22:11.840 citing Vatican II as the impetus.
00:22:15.500 say i want to understand something here if that is i mean i pretty much reject anything from
00:22:23.480 vatican ii and frankly following vatican ii as well as binding on anything that i'm obliged to
00:22:31.940 believe but that's my own personal choice i don't i wouldn't say all catholics have to do that but
00:22:36.620 it is definitely what i do um yeah but even from what i understand about the the the the post
00:22:44.800 concilia catholic church here where where does the prudential judgment issue come in here for
00:22:56.380 the laity because i under my reading my understanding of vatican 2 is the is the
00:23:02.120 prioritization of leaving the political sphere to the laity um the temple sphere is the special
00:23:09.640 the renewal of the temple
00:23:11.680 is the special responsibility of the laity.
00:23:14.900 Surely, therefore,
00:23:16.200 whether it is prudential or not 1.00
00:23:18.380 to build a mosque
00:23:19.440 is a decision for the laity
00:23:21.460 rather than for bishops,
00:23:24.180 unless we're going to retreat
00:23:25.240 into the dreaded clericalism 0.62
00:23:27.780 that the Second Vatican Council
00:23:29.500 sought to abolish
00:23:32.020 and leave the political decisions
00:23:33.980 to our priests and bishops.
00:23:36.300 Even trying to give them good faith here,
00:23:38.700 i i can't i always draw the conclusion no they are acting in bad faith how on the one hand can
00:23:45.180 you help me balance this frank walker you're probably the wrong person to help me balance
00:23:48.840 this but can you try to help balance this how on the one hand can they insist on pulling the
00:23:55.840 catholic church out of the political sphere and say no no we're doing this because the political
00:24:00.940 sphere belongs to the laity on the one hand and then on the other hand on every single opportunity
00:24:06.560 that there is for a prudential issue.
00:24:08.700 The Catholic Church sort of pushes everyone out of the way,
00:24:11.220 leaps to the front of the stage, says, no, no, no, let us make this decision. 0.99
00:24:14.580 This building of the mosque is a prudential issue.
00:24:16.900 It's not necessary for the church to intervene here with its opinions.
00:24:22.220 Am I right or wrong on that?
00:24:24.160 Well, yeah, but I think that you should look at society
00:24:27.520 as having a Christian framework first.
00:24:31.360 I mean, you can't make a prudential decision if you really don't have any faith.
00:24:34.980 And you're right about Vatican, too.
00:24:36.280 Vatican II has some bad things and some good things, and they selectively pull out what they
00:24:41.100 want to use, and they weaponize it. They make it into a law. So you can't separate a culture.
00:24:47.420 They're saying these mosques, this is a cultural center, not a mosque, but cult means religion,
00:24:52.320 the word cult. And you can't separate religion from the way that you live, from your decisions
00:24:56.660 about right and wrong. And this whole idea is not a Catholic idea. This is something that was
00:25:00.760 It was generated from, you know, a different culture, an anti-Catholic culture that developed over the last couple hundred years and became part of America to some extent.
00:25:10.620 So, no, you know, they're not going to leave you the room to make your decision.
00:25:16.740 Instead, in the opposite, they're going to weaponize little selected items from Vatican II, and they're going to turn it into law against you.
00:25:25.980 You know, in Florida, they have a law that says that schools can not make you take what I call the death vaccine.
00:25:34.200 And the bishops are saying, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, because the bishops won't enforce that law.
00:25:40.400 You can't say, well, that vaccine has abortion in it and it's dangerous and abortion related vaccine.
00:25:46.920 No, you're not allowed to do that if you're a Catholic school student now.
00:25:49.540 So the bishops are actually working for the wrong side and the anti-Catholic side.
00:25:53.920 And it's the people themselves that are actually saying we have that right and the law has that right.
00:25:59.140 But then they go back and they say, no, it's our religious freedom.
00:26:03.140 You're impacting on us. We're bishops.
00:26:05.620 It doesn't matter what these Catholics say.
00:26:07.320 What matters is what Leo and Francis and these bishops say.
00:26:10.300 That's the religious freedom. They weaponize Vatican II.
00:26:13.680 Their insistence is only on the things that don't pertain to the Catholic faith.
00:26:18.420 to the things that are actually essential and obligatory on Catholics,
00:26:23.180 the bishops are all, no, no, we'll leave this all to your own conscience,
00:26:25.840 do what you will.
00:26:27.480 So you can really see, that's why we say on the show constantly
00:26:31.540 the Catholic Church has been hijacked by,
00:26:34.920 the institutional Catholic Church has been hijacked 0.97
00:26:37.180 by a band of usurpers who hate the Catholic faith 0.99
00:26:41.020 and they hate Catholics. 0.90
00:26:43.820 Back with Frank Walker and Jenny Holland in two minutes 0.71
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00:31:49.800 welcome back well english catholics long-suffering english catholics have long been aware that
00:31:59.400 there's only one thing worse than the pill and that's the tablet tablet being the establishment
00:32:06.360 liberal poison magazine
00:32:12.380 read by all the bishops and all the priests.
00:32:15.080 20 years ago, it was basically in dissent.
00:32:18.660 Of course, now, at least from the papacies 0.82
00:32:23.440 of the late unlamented Bergoglio onwards, 0.97
00:32:27.380 it's now the reigning orthodoxy. 1.00
00:32:30.140 And the tablet is therefore the natural vehicle
00:32:33.620 for some gloating on behalf of the modernist hierarchs.
00:32:41.720 Frank Walker, this article that I know you've been following also on Canon 212,
00:32:47.920 in this article, Cardinal Roach there, known to English Catholics as Cockroach,
00:32:56.800 cardinal roach they're gloating that pope leo has given him every indication i mean i'm assuming as
00:33:06.200 prefect of the congregation for divine worship uh whatever its new name is that can't be bothered
00:33:12.120 to remember the new name that they've changed all these things to but um as as prefect i um
00:33:18.960 And a notorious modernist, a really quite notorious modernist, he's gloating that Leo is not going to repeal, undo, cancel the Traditiones Custodes decree of Bergoglio effectively binding the traditional Latin mass.
00:33:48.960 And reducing the liberties that Pope Benedict in Samoan Pontificate had given, what, some 20 or so years ago.
00:34:00.700 Without going into the weeds on this one, I was particularly interested in this article
00:34:11.700 because it's a bit of a hammer blow to Trad Inc.
00:34:16.080 And it's just give Leo time, agenda.
00:34:21.060 He's really conservative.
00:34:22.080 He's really doing what he can through small, moderate moves ahead.
00:34:27.040 Seems to the Trad Inc. line, and of course,
00:34:31.180 the Trad Inc.'s famous motto, as always, is don't forget to donate.
00:34:35.280 um it seems to me that cockroach here has blown trad ink out of the water on that one what what
00:34:45.080 did he say to the tablet uh and why um i know you is horrified by it not surprised but he was
00:34:53.660 horrified by as i was uh yeah because he's really such a nasty guy he really is it shows you that
00:35:04.420 they're lying to us and pretending that they care about the church because he's so careful
00:35:08.880 about the way that he lies and confusing people and so the uh trad inc they had a fit this week
00:35:16.140 they just they just they just couldn't believe they just had to lie cardinal roach doesn't know
00:35:21.580 that that leo is going going to uh not not give back the ancient mass no no that's not vatican
00:35:28.020 procedure he that's a totally different thing it has nothing to do with leo leo thinks leo
00:35:33.700 listens. That's what they would say. But this Carter Roach, he brought the actual goods,
00:35:39.200 you know, and he, you know, to me, he strikes me as a very scary guy. He lets the guy at the
00:35:45.020 tablet, he said, go ahead, give it a go, twirl around in my chair. You can almost pat the dome
00:35:50.160 of St. Peter's with all my power here. You can see the Rome from all the windows around. And yeah,
00:35:56.860 He said, these people, how can they say that we are against the church?
00:36:03.000 It's so hateful.
00:36:04.560 It's so hateful.
00:36:05.480 You know, we're haters.
00:36:07.020 That's a cultural Marxist term.
00:36:09.460 And he said the Vatican Council required us to have this special man.
00:36:12.620 Let me answer that because we hate them, right?
00:36:16.980 They are not.
00:36:18.500 There is some shorthand here that we all do occasionally.
00:36:23.600 But these people are not the church.
00:36:26.860 these are usurpers they are not the church even if they were legitimate bishops legitimate cardinals
00:36:33.000 and legitimate popes they would still not be the church the church is the mystical body of jesus
00:36:38.660 christ doesn't belong to the bishops and the pope doesn't belong even to the laity the church is
00:36:45.720 the mystic the catholic church is the mystical body of jesus christ um and of course people have
00:36:52.340 different roles and and participate uh in the life of the church in different ways according
00:36:58.560 um to their office um but we don't hate the church we hate that we hate these people and
00:37:07.640 their daily betrayal of the church right they're enemies of the church yeah you know now this new
00:37:14.540 mass eucharist nourishes people differently now they said i find that so repulsive because
00:37:20.980 the eucharist is god you know catholics believe that the blessed sacrament becomes jesus and so
00:37:26.980 it's god it's not like this like nourisher it's like they constantly you know and gives us a better
00:37:31.500 diet of scripture and um he brings it to the people these are all the things he said and he 0.59
00:37:36.360 said you know the vatican is not an ivory tower he lets the communist backing of the new mass and
00:37:40.620 in this interview come out because we're all of the people francis wanted to be with the peoples
00:37:45.020 before he's he died and he said my job is mainly to receive the bishops and they come to him about
00:37:51.160 their liturgy things and you know that he just cracks the whip on them he says and i love the
00:37:55.260 people from the poor countries they have a sparkle in their eye because they're from the poor
00:38:00.140 countries you know that if you come to cardinal roach here and you don't have a sparkle in your 0.99
00:38:04.920 eye you're in a lot of trouble that that's what it really is all about i mean he's a frightening
00:38:09.220 cardinal so he says a practicing catholic is someone who goes to mass but he said that you
00:38:14.600 know there's difficulties and when they don't go to mass they begin to fall away he reveals that
00:38:19.460 he's not really catholic no you go to mass every week or you're in mortal sin and if you don't go
00:38:24.260 you have fallen away and he says that sometimes he wonders about god about some of the things
00:38:29.080 that happen well that that means he doesn't have the faith and he said humana vitae which
00:38:33.940 upheld contraception he had let a whole new understanding of human sexuality humana vitae
00:38:41.280 let everybody know that contraception was discussable and it made sex about about love
00:38:46.760 and unity instead of about children and the law of marriage you you can read through the lines 0.88
00:38:52.260 this guy is not a catholic and like you're saying here catholic you know they're they're faking us
00:38:57.340 and because since we've lost europe europe is our backing and we lost the whole church so on both 0.99
00:39:03.840 sides of the pond we don't know who we are so we're susceptible to these liars both in islam 0.53
00:39:08.840 and these frauds in the church, 0.94
00:39:10.400 because we don't know who we are anymore.
00:39:13.120 I want to come to this point, right?
00:39:16.560 Exactly this point is the cant and the hypocrisy.
00:39:23.640 Again, you try to give people good faith
00:39:26.120 and assume that they're arguing from a good faith,
00:39:28.300 but you go just like a teeny bit of second-order thinking
00:39:32.200 and what they're saying,
00:39:33.500 and you realise it's just pure deception.
00:39:36.080 what do he he makes his argument that the um that the second vatican council required the church to
00:39:44.480 become more missionary right right how can anybody in good faith make this argument the missionary
00:39:53.140 aspect of the church the reason why the the church expanded outside of jerusalem basically galilee
00:40:03.080 The reason why is because the church was missionary.
00:40:05.660 The church was missionary from the great commission of Jesus Christ onwards before, just literally before he ascended to heaven.
00:40:13.700 It's why, you know, from the invention, the discovery of sea travel and ocean going boats.
00:40:24.400 the moment the moment mankind was able to put a mast and a sail on a boat and go beyond short
00:40:32.400 distances and to cross seas they took priests and religious with them to for that missionary purpose
00:40:39.360 and all you all the all the all the the um colonialization was also part and parcel of
00:40:48.240 of the evangelical missionary impetus.
00:40:52.020 That's what happened for 1,962 years of the church.
00:40:58.060 After the Second Vatican Council, everything that had been missionized,
00:41:05.200 everything that had been evangelized by the missionaries in the previous 1,962 years,
00:41:11.020 then started to undo and to unwind.
00:41:13.640 So you have this situation, which we're going to discuss with Jenny just in a couple of minutes,
00:41:17.400 that you have huge swathes of Latin America,
00:41:20.680 which is like the fortress of the Catholic Church.
00:41:23.300 The Catholic Church, all of South America, of Latin America,
00:41:27.220 was Catholic up until the Second Vatican Council.
00:41:31.520 It's now all Protestant, basically. 0.92
00:41:33.620 The Pentecostals are just making hay there.
00:41:39.780 So this is the cant of what Cockroach is saying.
00:41:43.000 He's saying, oh, no, no, no, the Second Vatican Council
00:41:46.500 wanted the church to be missionary as if it wasn't before and as if it is now all you have
00:41:52.380 in the last 65 years of the of the post concilia missionary impetus is implosion collapse and
00:42:01.620 right collapse is what they must they must have that collapse and that's what the mass is that
00:42:06.500 new mass is about collapse and that's what you're going to hear about next the death is what they're
00:42:11.520 talking about when they say missionary there one priest in in pamplona the canon in pamplona he
00:42:16.080 He got in all kinds of trouble this week because he said we need to bring back, finish what Isabella didn't finish in Spain.
00:42:23.940 And that meant, like you mentioned, Isabella sent Columbus over in the name of St. Paul to take the Western Hemisphere and make it Catholic.
00:42:32.440 That was what you're talking about. And that's what this poor canon who's going to get fired now is talking about.
00:42:37.360 so it's impossible to to treat these utterances by these vatican two fanatics with good face
00:42:44.280 with good faith because it's just sheer deception um all right okay uh so now we'll just a couple
00:42:53.340 of minutes where we'll discuss this great story which i've been sitting on um for the last few
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00:44:33.540 to birch gold group speak to philip patrick and his team and i ask him why the vatican for example
00:44:42.160 is investing heavily in gold right now the vatican that thinks in centuries all right um
00:44:53.640 Not much thinking in centuries right now, that said.
00:44:57.560 When it comes to assets, property, when it comes to gold portfolio, the Vatican Bank, it thinks in centuries.
00:45:06.520 When it comes to the matters of the faith and the things that it exists to do to shuffle the sheep towards salvation,
00:45:16.760 not so much century-long thinking is to be witnessed.
00:45:20.280 This article, I thought, in Axios was absolutely astonishing because here we've been covering really throughout since we started the show in commemoration of Leo's ascent to the papacy.
00:45:39.320 In fact, I should have put the scare quotes on ascent to the papacy.
00:45:44.160 We've covered, Frank Walker and I covered just a couple of weeks ago, how donations to the Vatican are down, donations by Americans are down.
00:45:53.620 So that was a busted flush, because that's what their great hope in Leo was supposed to be.
00:46:00.680 Their great hope, by the way, in Bergoglio, his unalamented predecessor, was supposed to be, as an Argentinian, he was going to resist the inroads of Pentecostalism into Catholic Latin America and fight back in defense of the Catholic faith.
00:46:22.180 That's what the gullible cardinals, those who were voting in good faith, thought that they were going to get.
00:46:28.820 They didn't. They got the Marxist.
00:46:30.860 But it would turn out that seeing as really over recent decades, especially in view of the whole scale abandoning of the blue collar regular worker, the total abandonment of those by the fake bishop, fake pastors from Catholic churches, the Catholic church went big. 0.60
00:47:00.860 on Latinos 0.62
00:47:03.180 went really big 1.00
00:47:04.460 this is our future, it doesn't matter
00:47:06.800 if 0.79
00:47:08.020 the Midwest just gets so pissed
00:47:11.200 off with us, they stop coming
00:47:13.240 because our future is in 1.00
00:47:15.360 the Latin demographic, these are
00:47:17.200 the Catholics, these are the guys
00:47:18.700 who have come in, these will 0.98
00:47:21.040 fill, will swell 0.99
00:47:23.080 our abandoned churches and our
00:47:25.300 collection plate offerings
00:47:27.280 alas no
00:47:30.440 because, as I was saying, Frank Walker has been detailing here
00:47:35.560 on the Warren collections, donations down in the post-Leo epoch
00:47:43.140 and down as well amongst the Latino demographic.
00:47:48.100 Young Latinos, this is the Axios headline here,
00:47:51.860 young Latinos are abandoning churches to be nuns.
00:47:57.140 I thought this was an astonishing piece.
00:47:59.620 The statistics are absolutely horrific.
00:48:01.980 I'll just say this one and hand over to you, Jenny.
00:48:06.700 Of the demographic between 18 and 29, which I know you write about on your sub stack constantly,
00:48:15.180 the share of Latino adults, this is according to Pew Research Centre,
00:48:20.300 the share of Latino adults identifying as Catholic
00:48:24.340 plummeted from 67% in 2010 down to 43% in 2012.
00:48:31.080 This is an implosion.
00:48:34.060 What's there in Axios' reportage?
00:48:37.540 We've got two minutes.
00:48:39.920 Now, what's there in Axios' reportage
00:48:42.800 and what conclusion do you draw from it?
00:48:46.040 Yeah, so they reported also,
00:48:48.160 So these are from numbers from a public religion opinion kind of poll that the 18 to 29 demographic in 2019, I think, was 18 percent of them said they were non-affiliated or religiously unaffiliated.
00:49:08.720 And a more updated poll in 2023, I think, was, or more recently, was 23% claimed no affiliation.
00:49:21.300 And this is, of course, you know, Hispanics, Latin Americans and Hispanics have been so closely associated with Catholicism in, you know, in our common culture.
00:49:33.040 I think second only to maybe the Irish, you know, you think of the Mexicans and you think of the abuelas and their devotion to the church and that real sort of salt of the earth religious devotion that really kind of keeps traditions passed down from one generation to the next.
00:49:50.300 And according to Axios, this is not the case any longer.
00:49:53.500 Two of the factors that they attributed this to, one, I regret to say, but will not be surprised to say, is down to the women. 0.98
00:50:01.240 The women are much more liberal. The women, I think, in fact, they actually say in this article that women are much more aligned with LGBTQ plus plus ideology than they are with more conservative Catholic parishes where they, you know, they are turning their backs on.
00:50:26.740 And the other is assimilation.
00:50:29.300 And I think actually assimilation is a very interesting problem because obviously it's what we always, we claimed in the liberal order when the liberal order still functioned that we, that's what we wanted.
00:50:41.460 We wanted assimilation. 0.72
00:50:42.520 It sounds great, right?
00:50:44.480 But it seems to me that now with a couple of generations of observations and data to work with, assimilation is a really double-edged sword. 0.99
00:50:52.900 I mean, I just see a lot of young, very vocal, second generation immigrants from a variety of different backgrounds. 0.90
00:51:00.300 So this is kind of veering, not strictly in the Catholic sphere, but just in the general patriotism and affiliation and allegiance to the United States sphere.
00:51:11.600 There's a lot of discontent and a lot of anti-Americanism among second generation children of immigrant families.
00:51:19.400 this is really concerning because i think i feel like it didn't when i was growing up
00:51:25.080 it was it was almost the reverse jenny do you said that was discontent and anti-morganism
00:51:31.340 yes all right okay that's folks that's that's all we've got time for jenny we'll pick up this
00:51:37.620 uh the the the the the um the threads of this um next wednesday and continue to analyze it
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