In this special, we take a deep dive into the history of politics in Arizona, from the early morning hours of November 4th, 2020, to the moment Joe Biden won the presidential election. We speak with four individuals who have been on the ground in Arizona since day one.
00:01:38.000We're going to walk you through the entire history of this state since 3 November.
00:01:42.000We've got the great pollster, the people's pundit, Richard Barris.
00:01:46.000We have Dan Schultz, one of the top activists in the country, the founder and creator of the Precinct Strategy.
00:01:52.000We've got Boris Epstein, who was President Trump's man on the ground in the first 12 hours after Fox News called it for Joe Biden.
00:02:04.000And of course, we've got the founder and creator of Frank's speech and Lindell TV, the one and only Mike Lindell, an American patriot.
00:02:12.000I'm going to start with Mike. Mike, Arizona has come to mean so much.
00:02:18.000I mean, over this past weekend, the Guardian of the United Kingdom, two cover stories on Arizona, specifically Carrie Lake, Mark Fincham, the progressive left and total meltdown about what this means in their view of democracy.
00:02:34.000All throughout the globe, whether it's BBC, NHK in Japan, they'll all be there later tonight at these headquarters of exactly what's going to play out.
00:02:42.760And I want to make sure people understand and put it in context what they're going to see tonight.
00:02:47.420Mike, you were a guy that was close to the president, but you weren't really engaged at all in anything about voter integrity, voter fraud until after November 3rd.
00:04:22.160So I sat and watched Arizona for two days, turn into four days, turn into a week, turn into 10 days.
00:04:29.640And I looked, Steve, at what was left to be counted in Arizona, in Maricopa County.
00:04:35.400And I looked at other past elections and what had happened.
00:04:38.760And according to my own calculations, it was easy that Donald Trump was going to bypass Biden and win by at least 80,000 votes.
00:04:46.740I had also heard that to people that were on the ground in Arizona that had been called out there immediately going, what is going on here?
00:04:55.460Now, Arizona then, you know, obviously in November and December, I just dove in everywhere.
00:05:02.320But I'm going, but Arizona never left my mind.
00:05:04.940And then all of a sudden, when I felt like I was the only one raising my hand in January and February of 2021,
00:05:11.880as I'm getting attacked every day and losing box doors and everyone else, I'm going, you guys, these machines, this happened, this, you know, putting out the evidence of the machines.
00:05:21.440Well, then I kept hearing about Arizona, these patriots in Arizona that were out there going, hey, we want to do an audit.
00:05:30.040And these legislatures, somebody actually wanted to do something about it.
00:05:36.440There's Arizona, then I started connecting with the grassroots and stuff in Arizona, like in February of 2021.
00:05:44.000And they all, it was like, I'm going, wow, they're validating what I already knew.
00:05:49.300And they're going, this really happened here.
00:05:51.720And then I met in this, and these were divine appointments.
00:05:54.800And actually the summer of, I believe it was, I'm not sure when it was, but I did an event.
00:06:01.120I think it was the summer of 21 and I met Carrie Lake there.
00:06:06.640Just, I spoke there, it was actually from my Lindell Recovery Network that I spoke for, for addicts.
00:06:13.100And, and, and I met Carrie Lake there and I find out that she, she had formerly worked for Fox and she was, she had quit because she was tired of not being able to put out the truth.
00:06:23.240Or to put out, to not be able to put out, not just the truth, but to actually put something out, which could be, by not saying something, is just as bad as saying a lie.
00:06:33.880By not telling the public that this is happening, you know, I've said it before, Steve, anytime you're like, this is your Foxes and your Newsmaxes of the world.
00:06:43.400You guys, you better start reporting the news, what's really going on out here, the truth.
00:06:48.160Or, you know, hey, there's really, there's a court case going on in Arizona where we did a preliminary injunction with Carrie Lake and Mark Fincham put forward.
00:07:05.340It comes out that 20 some thousand people voted twice and three times.
00:07:09.380And one of the things I looked at, Steve, by that point, I already knew that not just Arizona, but all the states had non-residents that voted.
00:07:18.060Non-residents that voted and people that had, that weren't, that had passed away.
00:07:22.960And I, you know, got to learn that I'm going, this is impossible.
00:07:37.120They were, they were not, you know, they deleted evidence the night before inside the machines, even though they caught them.
00:07:43.380And their names just got released a couple days ago, I guess.
00:07:46.680You know, and you see this, but Arizona, they just never gave up.
00:07:51.320In spite of their own party, the rusty bowers of the world there, that block, Karen Phan, whatever she, you know, you still say, why, why haven't you decertified, Karen?
00:08:02.980Why, and people have questions in Arizona.
00:08:06.160You have counties where there were more votes than voters, these impossibilities.
00:08:11.420And, and, and Arizona has become the most important.
00:08:15.080That's why these primaries, Steve, are so important.
00:08:17.680These candidates, remember, in so many other states like Georgia, where we know, we know for a fact that in the primaries, machines were used to manipulate even the primaries.
00:08:28.940You go to, you go to Colorado, the Tina Peters, the, the Ron Hanks, you go down to the, the crooked Brad Rassenberger race that happened in, in Georgia.
00:09:29.760For the audit, in your mind, was the audit a success?
00:09:32.980Because the mainstream media essentially buried it.
00:09:36.200Do you think there were mistakes made or was it messaging?
00:09:38.720What is your sense of the audit that was done heroically by volunteers?
00:09:44.340I think it was in May and June of 2021, sir.
00:09:48.240Yeah, it was, well, it was longer than that.
00:09:49.960It actually went on for five, six months, but it was 100% success.
00:09:54.040It shows, it showed all the crime that happened in Arizona.
00:09:58.540You can't have 27,000 people vote three times, two times, three times, four times.
00:10:03.960You can't have all of the paper, almost 200,000 votes were not from this election.
00:10:10.380They were just a runoff on copy machine.
00:10:13.060Steve, you can't have, how about the overseas military vote in Maricopa County, where 8,700, I believe, votes came in, and they were almost all for Biden.
00:10:23.460I mean, this is stuff that was brought up during this audit, but the media suppressed it.
00:10:27.640But Fox News finally stuck their head out of the sand and said, yep, nothing to see here by the count Biden won.
00:10:34.000He actually won by a few more votes than they said before.
00:11:01.140In spite of being blocked by their own party, in spite of all the media suppressing it, one of the greatest successes ever, because they did it.
00:11:11.440And there's no doubt by the evidence that you have seen, the physical evidence that's there.
00:11:18.600There's no doubt in your mind that Joe Biden did not beat Donald Trump by 10,000 votes.
00:11:25.120And there's no doubt in your mind by the evidence that those electors should be decertified, sir.
00:12:07.460The numbers I put out to the public, they were low because it didn't count all of the 2,000 meals, people, that kind of fraud, that kind of crime.
00:12:18.160I didn't count all of the organic crime, I call it.
00:12:44.080We've then got your – I want to talk about your court because I've got Barris on here to talk about the polling and where the state stands and Schultz on the volunteers.
00:13:33.960He hasn't made a ruling yet, but when he makes that ruling, Steve, he has to say, even if he says, okay, we're going to still use machines, Arizona, he's going to have to explain why it would be like ordering Arizona to use cars that don't have any brakes.
00:13:50.800He now knows that those machines are defective and that you can – not just defective, but you can use them to steal elections because they're all vulnerable.
00:14:42.100We're going to do special events there also.
00:14:43.720We're going to be there with Brother Lindell.
00:14:45.600On the topic of voter integrity and getting rid of the machines and going to paper ballots, what do you hope to accomplish at CPAC in Dallas this week, sir?
00:14:54.200Well, I'm very – I mean, I know we have one of the biggest booths there.
00:14:57.680I did that on purpose with Frank Speech and Lindell TV.
00:15:00.860We want to get the – I want to get the word out of the Moment of Truth Summit.
00:15:07.360That's going to be my – you know, we've got to get the word out, the urgency of this, the urgency of getting rid of the machines, the urgency of this – of the 2022 election.
00:15:16.420We'll get the word out of how important the 2020 election was, the most important election in world history and to tell people why.
00:15:25.820Steve, they're giving me – on Friday morning Central Time, 10, 15 Central Time, I get 15 minutes.
00:15:33.200I believe it's 15 to 20 minutes on stage, on the main stage.
00:15:37.260I am so happy because I'll be able to get the word out of what – where are we at as a country and where we're going and the hope.
00:15:47.020I want to bring people the hope at CPAC.
00:15:49.020I want to bring people hope, and I want to get the word out to – we have to.
00:15:54.560We have one shot at the Moment of Truth Summit to have that, and I just want to keep getting the word out.
00:16:02.060I want to talk to everybody there because they can then become the voice.
00:16:05.560One of the things that has stopped us – and, Steve, you know this better than anyone – where your platform, my platform, you've got a few others, but that's it, RSBN, a few other platforms where we're out there speaking and speaking, and then we count on the other people that we're talking to to get the word out.
00:16:24.020And that's where CPAC is so important this year because it's a big voice.
00:16:38.020We're also, every night live, going to be there on Frank's speech with War Room Battleground.
00:16:44.040We're also going to corral Mike Lindell either right before or right after his main stage speech on Friday morning at 9.15 Central Time, and we're going to cover that live.
00:16:53.460We're going to live stream that right to start our show on Friday.
00:16:59.800I want to make sure – because we're getting all the posse to come to Dallas in the North Texas area, in the Dallas area, maybe even guys in Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana.
00:17:40.220We're going to have all 50 states, Steve, are going to be on that stage.
00:17:44.120And each one of them, their footprint, what's going on in their state, where their hope is, where their blockers are, that's the first day.
00:18:51.780We have, we're going to have each, just kind of like the cyber symposium, where you're going to have news outlets there, where they're going to have their own.
00:19:01.280They'll be able to interview people while things are going on from the main stage that never stop.
00:20:50.300You will get that the day after the summit.
00:20:53.240But right now, you've got to get the app, the Frank Speech app.
00:20:56.980Remember, we're live streamed every day here on Lindell TV and 24-7.
00:21:01.900And all your information is going to come from there.
00:21:04.800Everything you're going to need leading up to the Moment of Truth Summit, everything you can do, things you can share to get the word out, just like you all did for the movie Absolute Proof.
00:21:15.800When you all did that, 150 million people seen that in four days back in February 5th of 2021.
00:21:26.400This is everything you can do right now to help save your country.
00:21:31.960By the way, Mike, if it had not been for you, we've never gotten to this Tuesday, this massive primary, the whole world would not be watching.
00:21:45.420But I'm going to tell everybody, we would not be here if it's not for Mike Lindell.
00:21:49.300He is a great patriot and a true hero.
00:21:51.200Mike, thank you so much for joining us here in War Room Battleground right before the vote starts to come in in the great state of Arizona.
00:22:43.080Richard was with us on the night of 3 November.
00:22:46.820In fact, Richard, you were working with our buddies, our colleagues out in Arizona, specifically.
00:22:51.440This is why we have Barris on tonight.
00:22:52.960As we start going into the primary actual, the votes coming out, Richard Barris, on 3 November, we're up there on top of that building overlooking.
00:23:00.960It's where One America's studio here in Washington is.
00:23:04.280They've got this beautiful space up there.
00:23:05.680We rented along with G News and G TV, the Chinese TV apparatus, John Frederick's radio network.
00:23:28.600What is it about the Arizona electorate that's kind of either changed or come to the forefront that the entire world, the Times of London, the Financial Times, BBC, NHK, the New York Times, why is everybody focused on Arizona, sir?
00:23:41.080Yeah, and even as a numbers guy, Steve, thanks for having me, of course, having me back.
00:23:47.240But as a numbers guy, Arizona, I've been saying for weeks, it really is ground zero for the identity crisis the Republican Party is going through right now.
00:23:57.160Will it emerge as an America First party where the coalition is more dynamic?
00:24:04.680By the way, I mean, it's not just working class.
00:24:06.880The establishment wing of the Republican Party is hoping tonight that there's a lower turnout and only older voters come out.
00:24:17.580The same thing we heard throughout the Romney years, the McCain years.
00:24:21.840They don't want a younger, more diverse electorate to vote.
00:24:25.440And, Steve, the bottom line is that's a losing strategy.
00:24:28.880That is not – electoral viability is what is at stake here.
00:24:35.720And that should be what's paramount in their minds, but it's not.
00:24:39.200So you really have – especially at the governor's race, you really have this fight between the Republican old guard literally getting older, literally a dying breed.
00:24:51.500They are the ones who have profited from the status quo.
00:24:55.060They're doing well, but they are the smaller fewer among the electorate in Arizona.
00:25:00.540And then you have the rest of the people who are fed up.
00:25:08.560Two-thirds of the state is basically in the Phoenix area of Maricopa County.
00:25:11.740We had the whole world watching in May all the way through, I think, three, four, almost five months.
00:25:17.220Then Mike said this brutal forensic guard, at least for the time, quite controversial.
00:25:21.980What is it about 3 November that resonates so much that's actually divided the Republicans out here, divided – it's gone throughout the country now.
00:25:31.900People – and they have the code word, you know, Pence came in and supported Robeson with, oh, elections are about looking forward.
00:30:43.900Richard, what lessons, besides who wins tonight, what lessons, I keep saying that Arizona's turned into the railhead of the Trump movement.
00:30:54.320As great as Texas is, as great as Florida is with Ron DeSantis, as great as Tennessee is, right?
00:31:00.340There's something that's happened in Arizona that has, you know, people that volunteer to do this, to do the full forensic audit.
00:31:08.580You've got people in this brutal heat going out all the time.
00:31:12.700What is it that changed in Arizona that can help propel and change the dynamic and the demographic in the direction of the Republican Party?
00:31:26.400You know, we talk about, you know, Nixon used the term silent majority, the Nixon campaign.
00:31:31.740You know, for a long time, there's a big group of, you know, class of people in this country that just feel like leaders don't fight for them, that they don't defend them, they don't represent them.
00:31:41.380And I think what happened in Arizona, you saw people stand up and say, you know what, not here, not in this state.
00:31:50.060We can walk and chew bubblegum at the same time.
00:31:51.960We can talk about the future while making sure that nothing, we haven't been wronged in the past and we don't, we're not wronged again.
00:31:59.160And I think that's inspiring to people.
00:32:00.820You know, I said this the other day on the show, but it's true that there are, there are just, you know, a healthy democracy is one where a lot of people participate, Steve, right?
00:32:28.100Arizona is so important because it's a perfect example of how things are changing.
00:32:33.940And if, you know, if, if the Pence, Robeson, Ducey, wing of the party, you know, was to get their way, the Republican Party as a national Republican force will be obsolete.
00:32:57.660Okay, everybody wants to know, this is a mini, this is a mini Super Tuesday.
00:33:01.060Everybody's going to want to know how to get to you.
00:33:03.080So tell us tonight, how do people, uh, punch in?
00:33:06.380You've got primaries, these important primaries all over, and including Trump-backed candidate in Missouri, Michigan, uh, in Washington, obviously in Arizona.
00:33:15.540Where do people, how do people go to get Richard Barris tonight?
00:40:01.880It was on the 4th of November or the 5th.
00:40:03.700How early did you get to Arizona, sir?
00:40:07.340It was the early morning of the 5th when I left D.C., so within about 24 hours of the early morning of the evening of the 3rd and the morning of the 4th.
00:40:18.060So I was on my way to Arizona, the MAGA state of Arizona.
00:40:30.200Arizona has become America's battleground.
00:40:32.120Did you think when you got on the plane that morning that everything that would transpire in Arizona, that the whole world's media is now watching this primary, that that would take place?
00:40:40.980Well, Steve, first of all, when I got on the plane on November 5th, 2020, I knew for a fact that Arizona is MAGA country, and I knew for a fact, then what I know now, that President Trump won Arizona in 2020, and there's absolutely no doubt whatsoever about that.
00:40:59.060The Maricopa audit showed it absolutely refutably, and all the information we have, that was just Maricopa, but in Pima, Pinal, Cachis, and other counties.
00:41:08.380Absolutely no doubt about it that President Trump won it in 2020, and as we hope and expect, he runs it 24, he'll win it again.
00:41:17.440I am unbelievably enthusiastic about these candidates, about Blake Masters, Carrie Lake, Eli Crane, Abba Hamade, the strength, of course, Fincham.
00:41:29.920The strength of the MAGA ticket in Arizona is what has the mainstream media absolutely deranged.
00:41:37.100That's why they're so triggered, because MAGA is on the rise around the country, and Arizona is the tip of the spear for that rise.
00:41:45.600When you look back, you were in the White House, which I think a lot of people may not understand.
00:41:49.440You were actually there the night of November 3rd in the early morning hours of the 4th.
00:41:53.480How big a deal was it on momentum, given where the numbers were, for Bret Baier and Fox to call it, call Arizona?
00:42:01.480And now, as you know, we've won this, I think, by a couple of hundred thousand votes, at least 80.
00:42:33.480And then for Fox News to call Arizona so unbelievably early, to allow for the fraud to happen in Arizona, and then set off the fraud that went on in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Nevada, Wisconsin, so on and so forth.
00:42:51.620And they said at the time, oh, well, we knew that Biden would win Arizona by a couple of hundred thousand.
00:42:57.360In the end, the result, even that they buy into, is 11,000 votes.
00:43:01.020So by definition, it was undecided for long after Fox News made that fateful, wrongful call that allowed for the cheating to permeate and grow.
00:43:46.720There was a plan, and you had talked about it months in advance of the 2020 election, there was a plan in place designed by Mark Elias and others to attack this election and to use COVID as a pretext and to flood the ballots and gut the checks.
00:44:07.020And the wrongful Arizona call was vital, and it was a big part of their undertaking to get the steal and rig the 2020 election.
00:44:16.040But now, MAGA is only more and more ascendant since then.
00:44:20.000We've taken that event, we've taken that steal, and we have made it clear to the American people that Joe Biden is illegitimate.
00:44:27.660And we've only been on the rise since then.
00:44:30.800And President Trump, of course, the leader of the MAGA movement, the MAGA movement, and the World Posse are the hottest they have ever been.
00:44:40.200Tell me about that movement from when you went out there on the afternoon of the 5th, and you've seen it in Arizona, and you've been all over the country, to where we are today on the eve of a mini Super Tuesday, and with only, what, 98 days until the most significant midterm election, at least since 1862 and the beginning of the Civil War.
00:45:26.340Instead, we've fought forward and won key races in Ohio, won in Texas.
00:45:35.220Won in Michigan at the convention level.
00:45:38.340And we've won all across the country, time and time again with MAGA candidates.
00:45:43.900And as long as MAGA candidates keep winning, North Carolina.
00:45:47.460As long as MAGA candidates keep winning, we are going to keep getting stronger and stronger.
00:45:52.800And I will tell you, I think that the country right now is about two-thirds MAGA, and that number is only going up.
00:45:59.460The Democrats have embarrassed themselves.
00:46:01.320They've shown themselves to be feckless, shown themselves to be pathetic, shown themselves to be the failures that we know they are.
00:46:07.640And they have not been able to fight back.
00:46:10.220And all their only answer is, oh, the J6 kangaroo court.
00:46:15.300The American people aren't buying that.
00:46:17.020They're seeing the gas prices through the roof.
00:46:19.500They're seeing the lack of a southern border.
00:46:21.380They're seeing the disaster that happened in Afghanistan.
00:46:24.360We are winning over the American people all over the country.
00:46:28.380Hispanic Americans, African Americans, Asian Americans, Jewish Americans, Americans of all backgrounds and ethnicities are coming over to MAGA.
00:46:36.900Americano media is a big part of that, right, because they're speaking to the center-right, to the MAGA Hispanic audience, the first, second, and third-generation Hispanic audience, and welcoming them to the MAGA movement.
00:46:56.040We've still got primaries, what, in Florida, Alaska, Wisconsin, I think New Hampshire, a couple of others.
00:47:00.900But it's basically the glide slope indicator to get to the most important midterm election.
00:47:06.000As we sit here today, tell me how you feel, particularly given the crushing blow we had from the big steal, you know, 18 months ago.
00:47:17.380It's been one of the most unbelievable turn around in American history, except for the fact that we could have seen it coming because we know that Democrats don't actually want to govern.
00:47:33.920So we have seen such a failure at every level of Democrat public elected officials that this red MAGA tsunami wave that we're about to see in November, and that continuing into 2024, is going to be unlike anything this country has ever experienced before.
00:47:51.280And it'll be unlike anything this country has ever experienced because the fight, the clash between MAGA and wokeism, MAGA and radicalism, MAGA and, you know, having transvestites and sexualities taught in schools has been won by MAGA.
00:48:10.980That win started in 2016 with a historic win by President Donald J.
00:48:15.040Trump, continued in 2020 with what we believe and we know was a win by the president in 2021.
00:48:20.780The MAGA win in Virginia, that was just, that was all war room posse.
00:48:24.400That was all MAGA that won the 2021 election for Youngkin in Virginia, almost.
00:48:29.120And I do think it came very close, if not won in New Jersey, but with Citarelli.
00:48:32.840And then look at elections like Ed Durr.
00:48:34.360And now it's continued through this primary season this year.
00:48:37.560It's going to have a major event, as you said, 98 days.
00:48:41.740And then we march on to 2024, when, as we hope and expect, President Trump runs and wins the presidency and then walks into the Oval Office no later than Jan 20, 2025.
00:48:59.240You were a key part of the 20 campaign.
00:49:01.960And then you really put your shoulder to the wheel and have become kind of one of the leaders in this decertification process throughout the country.
00:49:09.120But particularly in Arizona, you really kind of organized things and kicked it off.
00:49:14.620What has Boris Epstein learned about himself?
00:49:17.060We know what you've learned about MAGA.
00:49:18.460We know what you've learned about this movement.
00:49:20.260What have you learned about yourself in the year and a half?
00:49:22.680It's been an honor for me, Steve, an honor, you know, an honor to be part of the War Room Posse, an honor to be a humble part of the show.
00:49:30.820And what I've learned about myself is that you've got to trust your instincts.
00:49:35.300You've got to trust your gut and you've got to never even consider giving up.
00:49:39.460And as long as you put your shoulder to the wheel, as long as you keep fighting, as long as you stay strong, you are going to win, win, win, win.
00:49:47.200And the odds were long against us when I got on that plane on November 5, 2020, but the odds are now so overwhelmingly with us.
00:49:55.220We are winning all across the country, Missouri, Wisconsin, Michigan, all across the country, and of course, in Arizona.
00:50:03.520And Arizona, the beautiful Grand Canyon State that's a second home for me, is a place I am so proud to call near and dear to my heart because it is true, bone-red MAGA country.
00:50:15.160It is MAGA country absolutely to the bone.