Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 1080： Dr. Bradley Thayer On Communists’ “Incandescent Hatred” For The Judeo-Christian West

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00:00:53.600 Good evening. Harnwell here at the helm on Steve Bannon's War Room.

00:00:58.580 We're going to pick off now where we left off, actually, in the last interview that we did with Dr. Bradley Thayer, because pretty much we came to the conclusion that there was so much material there, we're going to pick it up again.

00:01:12.900 And events somewhat have anticipated this.

00:01:17.420 There's an incredible article out in New York magazine, of all places, doubting that the concept of cultural Marxism even exists beyond the echo chamber of right wing conspiracy theories.

00:01:37.680 We'll be talking about that in just a moment.

00:01:40.240 First of all, let's bring on Dr. Thayer right now.

00:01:44.680 Dr. Thayer, good evening.

00:01:45.860 I've been wonderful to join you again.

00:01:48.060 Thanks very much for coming back.

00:01:50.040 Before we turn around to dissect the New York Magazine's article,

00:01:55.660 let's discuss your own article, if you wouldn't mind,

00:02:00.560 that you just put out a few days ago in Human Events.

00:02:06.280 you i think actually some of the thematic material there is is uh it does sort of pick up a little

00:02:14.440 bit from where we left off on the show um but let's go through it because you you make some

00:02:19.400 really quite astonishingly profound arguments i want to pick up the one that uh that really caught

00:02:27.800 my attention i'll read it out and then i'll ask you to break it down and explain what you mean by

00:02:32.560 this you and i'll work backwards let's start on this point this i think really quite profound and

00:02:38.580 then we'll go we'll work backwards um towards the beginning of the article you mentioned that

00:02:44.540 starting halfway in american identity has become a battlefield identity matters because identity

00:02:52.560 is the entelechy of the country now i had to do a bit of research on that knowing something

00:03:02.420 having said a little bit of biblical Greek rather than classical Attic Greek, a bit of biblical Greek.

00:03:11.980 So Entelechy's end of preposition, basically in telos, which is the end of something,

00:03:22.220 the purpose of something, and echain, which is the infinitive of to have.

00:03:29.040 And it's basically the concept of to have a purpose.

00:03:34.020 That's the philosophical concept here.

00:03:39.840 And this, you know, Steve pioneered this, I think,

00:03:43.080 when he launched the war room five, six years ago.

00:03:49.100 Occasionally, it is necessary to push out terms,

00:03:54.040 Terms, complicated terms in Greek, in philosophical terms, to help us analyze everyday political discourse.

00:04:05.900 And you provided the perfect material for that.

00:04:10.360 You know, you don't get this on MSLOL.

00:04:13.840 You don't see Morning Meeker sitting around there digesting Greek terms.

00:04:18.500 But this is what we do on the war room.

00:04:20.940 identity matters because identity is the entelechy of the country i just say it is the it is the

00:04:27.960 purpose the goal of the country just break that down will you why how did you come to that

00:04:33.840 what did you mean by it especially what you mean by that in the context of this fight between what

00:04:40.520 you call elsewhere in the article the spirit of 1776 and the spirit of 1917 those are the that's

00:04:50.000 the great spiritual battle, the political battle taking place in the United States right now,

00:04:54.680 the background. What did you mean by this specific insight that you have introduced here?

00:05:01.800 Well, Ben, wonderful to join you, of course, Ben, once again, I see it as being the soul of America,

00:05:07.940 that it really is the essence or the soul of what we're fighting.

00:05:15.560 Identity is the soul of America.

00:05:18.480 Well, the entelechy is really the soul of it. Our identity is for what we're fighting, Ben.

00:05:26.240 America and the spirit of 1776, the recognition of the American Revolution, the American spirit,

00:05:34.400 the importance of political liberalism, and how that folds into Western civilization,

00:05:40.480 because we as Americans are a part of a greater civilization from the West with its own

00:05:46.960 traditions, of course, which heavily informed, colored the thinking of our founding fathers and

00:05:52.800 of every generation since that time, since 1776. But there's a fight for the soul of America

00:06:01.600 that we're experiencing right now in this period of revolutionary upheaval between the spirit of

00:06:11.120 of 1776 and the spirit of 1917, the spirit of Bolshevism. Lenin's ideas, embodied by his

00:06:19.160 colleagues of the Bolshevik Party, spread to Russia, of course, immediately in that coup d'etat

00:06:26.100 in November 1917, but then to the rest of the world with incredible dispatch. And as you well 0.69

00:06:33.620 know, that it was to the US, to Europe, to China, around the world as rapidly as possible. And this

00:06:40.940 is the great fight of the day that will determine whether the United States and the West remain

00:06:47.000 or whether they're obliterated, whether they're destroyed.

00:06:52.980 Let me come back and stick on this argument that you've made. I never heard this

00:06:58.980 made in this way before. And I want to wheel back and ask you to expand on this point,

00:07:07.040 Because you do talk elsewhere in this article that fundamentally what's taking place in America right now, almost it defines the spiritual stroke political battle of the age is this fight, as you say, for the values of 1776.

00:07:29.420 and you do see that being made you do see those arguments being made especially

00:07:36.560 in and around the 250th anniversary of the the signing of the declaration of independence but

00:07:44.280 what you the argument you make here is you i mean you make that argument but then you take it into

00:07:50.340 a place that i haven't seen before that's why i'm i want to dwell on that and get you to open up on

00:07:56.120 And that is, as you say, that identity, as you defined it just a moment or so ago, what we're fighting for, the identity there of America is the soul of America.

00:08:08.800 I want to, because if that's true, if that insight is true, it explains so much of why Democrats have, for the last generation perhaps, really ditched the policy platform, the pretense of fighting for the, the pretense I say, the pretense, they've ditched even the pretense of fighting for the regular working guy.

00:08:37.800 And they've gone all in on what? On identity politics. But you're taking a step back from that and you're saying that America's identity of itself is in some ways the soul of the country itself.

00:08:53.560 It's a bit of meta-analysis and referring to itself in the insight, which is particularly interesting.

00:09:02.660 So come back to this, if you wouldn't mind, and say specifically, what do you mean when you throw this thesis out?

00:09:10.560 What do you mean by that, that identity, open brackets, including involving the fight, the present fight, is the soul of America?

00:09:23.560 Certainly, Ben. The idea is that at root, whether Madison's, whether the Founding Fathers' America

00:09:30.240 is going to survive, or whether Lenin's America is going to survive, whether you're going to have

00:09:35.680 a successful communist revolution in the United States. So which side will win this ideological

00:09:41.620 conflict for the soul of America? For Americans and Western civilization, there's no greater issue.

00:09:49.160 We've been fighting communism for a hundred years, but we're at risk now of losing it.

00:09:55.640 We're at risk of losing our soul and having the United States' American identity,

00:10:03.160 the essence of America, destroyed forever and replaced by a neo-Leninist government

00:10:11.080 That would be the Democratic Party were it to come into power in January of 2029, as well as the midterms, of course, which are salient as well, the elections, of course, this November of 2026.

00:10:26.740 So that's the struggle. Our identity, which was once very secure for generation after generation, American identity was secure before the Leninists made it an issue.

00:10:40.980 Before the Leninists attacked it and made it that battlefield by taking over the ideas industry, as I illuminate in the book, America's Hundred Years' War, How to Win Against Communism, they took over the ideas industry, civil society, journalism, the elements, our institutions, indeed the Democratic Party itself, and replaced it with something which is very dark.

00:11:10.980 Bolshevik party. So we're in this situation where the United States faces, if you will,

00:11:20.020 a revolutionary party, as well as a party, the Republican Party, which seeks at one level to

00:11:26.900 sustain, of course, American identity. So this is the fight of the day. It's going on, it's urgent,

00:11:36.020 and we need to recognize that we are in a revolutionary time. And the outcome is not

00:11:42.340 guaranteed. It's not clear that Madison is going to defeat Lenin. Lenin very well may defeat

00:11:48.080 Madison in the United States, as unthinkable as that once was, Ben. But because there have been

00:11:53.860 consistent hammer blows, sledgehammer blows directed against American identity and Western

00:12:00.140 civilization, as you well know, attacks on the church, attacks on the family, attacks on our

00:12:06.920 educational system, attacks on American history, attacks on American institutions, attacks on

00:12:12.880 American museums, where the Smithsonian now is essentially advancing Leninist agitprop in its

00:12:22.160 displays. As unthinkable as that once might have been, that's the world that we're in now.

00:12:28.680 We have to recognize the size of the threat, the lateness of the hour, and that compels us to act urgently to address this problem.

00:12:37.820 dr thayer before we move on one moment let me um let me just ask you you do think in terms of

00:12:48.720 talking about this as sort of as fundamentally as you frame it a battle between the spirit

00:12:54.120 of 1776 and the spirit of 1917 and and you're framing this as fundamentally a spiritual battle

00:13:05.080 You do think that this is ultimately a satanic, a diabolic attempt to unseat Jesus Christ? 0.86

00:13:17.380 Well, Lenin and the Bolsheviks, Ben, were unmistakably evil in terms of what they did and what they unleashed. 0.64

00:13:24.580 And their incandescent hatred for the West, Western civilization, for democracy, for even aristocratic government, the czars, right? 0.72

00:13:34.780 That incandescent hatred is something which is foreign to Americans, hostile to Western

00:13:40.840 civilization, and hostile to American identity.

00:13:43.520 So we need to treat it as an evil phenomenon and recognize it.

00:13:49.880 But at the same time, equally, they're extremely skilled at political warfare, and they're

00:13:56.200 extremely skilled at penetrating societies to unhinge them to advance their agenda.

00:14:02.300 and we always seem to be two or three or four steps behind them uh when you say when you say

00:14:10.940 when you use the words incandescent hatred what is the for you for bradley thayer what is the origin

00:14:17.980 of that incandescence against the judeo-christian west i don't want to put words into your

00:14:24.160 mouth but i just want to know sort of where you're coming from on this

00:14:27.560 Certainly. We'll never know Lenin's soul, of course. We'll never know his heart.

00:14:34.540 We know his writings, though, and we know his experiences, and we know his wife, his sisters, and his relatives.

00:14:44.380 Lenin was an individual who was driven from the outset, even before the execution of his brother,

00:14:52.700 older brother, Alexander, for his participation in a terrorist plot to kill the Tsar in Russia.

00:15:02.380 Lenin was driven by—there is an element of what had to have been a very sinister component

00:15:12.300 of Lenin's being. And he was, if you will, able to channel his hatred into not only theoretical

00:15:26.080 arguments, which were incredibly cogent and persuasive, but also very practical action

00:15:33.160 to bring about a revolution. Lenin was a genius, an evil genius, who was able to wedge theory and

00:15:41.340 policy together to provide the tools, the toolkit, the instruction manual, and the way forward,

00:15:51.600 and the inspiration for revolution, for communist revolution around the world. So you have an

00:16:00.060 individual who did not see humans as humans. He did not see individuals as individuals. He saw

00:16:05.540 them as, if you will, pieces to be moved on his chessboard. And if they were damaged, if they

00:16:14.840 suffered famine, if they suffered death, if they were executed, all of that was necessary

00:16:21.320 to advance the Bolshevik project. So, Ben, we are truly dealing with an individual who was

00:16:32.740 profound, was evil. And we need to recognize that. That is the fight of today.

00:16:39.760 If we don't see the nature of it and the fact that he was supremely skilled

00:16:45.820 as a strategist, as a tactician, we are always condemned to lose, despite the great strengths

00:16:56.260 that we have. Our identity is far better. Our strengths are far greater. And rightfully so,

00:17:01.700 the society that the founding fathers gave us, Western civilization, are antidotes to Lenin 0.96

00:17:09.500 and the Bolsheviks and the spirit of 1917, if we can employ them presently and effectively 0.80

00:17:16.580 to address this immediacy. The urgency, again, is immediate.

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00:20:58.160 want to ask you because you mentioned in your article in human events just how successful

00:21:03.900 communism has been and i want to ask you why that is uh why has an ideology that so demonstrably

00:21:15.660 failed as witnessed in the fall of the berlin wall as a as an ideology that so unambiguously

00:21:25.740 and unarguably failed why it is quite so strong and let me put this thesis to you to take your

00:21:32.680 reaction on it as you answer that question it would seem to me because communism is extremely

00:21:37.160 very good at sloganeering um in a way that the right particularly isn't i mean you it's difficult

00:21:46.440 if you take something for example like no child left behind however meaningless that is how on

00:21:54.020 earth but it but it it has a concept which you can spread in quite just like like a handful of words

00:22:01.280 And it takes a whole page of A4 to explain why that's really nonsense and why it's just a power grab for the federal government in so many different departmental areas, education specifically, but not exclusively, expanding out from that because America doesn't want any child to be left behind.

00:22:22.640 And the right has traditionally not been able to compete against the left on slogan for slogan.

00:22:32.580 That's part of, and it's not original to me, that insight,

00:22:37.680 but it does seem to me to explain something of the essence of why communism has been for failed ideology,

00:22:48.100 how it continues not always under explicit communism sometimes under socialism sometimes

00:22:54.580 under democratic socialism sometimes like no child left behind it that's not even technically

00:23:02.420 a socialist um precept in and of itself but it just opens the door the unlimited government

00:23:10.100 expansion into that area just give me your own analysis as we go to the break on why

00:23:15.240 you think, having said in your article how communism has been so successful, as to why

00:23:21.720 that is for an ideology that so manifestly failed? Well, Ben, I think it's a great question

00:23:31.160 and a very important question. I think we need to address it. We need to look at really the

00:23:37.640 leaders of communist movements, and we need to look at their appeal at a popular level. For

00:23:43.340 leaders of communist movements, Lenin gives them again that toolkit, the instruction manual. It's

00:23:49.880 very good at delivering on the promise of tyrannical rule, totalitarian rule,

00:23:57.440 to a small elite group that can seize state control and maintain state control

00:24:03.520 to advance their aims, to advance the vision, the tyrannical vision that they seek to impose

00:24:11.200 on the rest of us under the guise of progressivism, which, in fact, it's monstrously retro-aggressive.

00:24:18.640 So I think that speaks to your point about the sloganeering, that they are able to advance that.

00:24:27.440 I would also add at the elite level, too, because they own the ideas industry,

00:24:32.240 K-12 education, colleges, universities, media, museums, NGOs, think tanks,

00:24:38.720 they have air cover. They have cover for everything that they're advancing. They're

00:24:44.340 never questioned. Their history is never examined by our media or by our museums today.

00:24:50.720 But essentially, they're working together to advance those aims. So that's a very important

00:24:59.100 point for us to recognize. This movement is always going to be covered for by the media

00:25:06.520 and by others. At the mass level, at a popular level, I think it's because, folks, it promises

00:25:14.320 emancipation. It promises the excitement of rebellion, the overthrow of an established

00:25:19.940 order, revenge against purported oppressors, and the possibility of realizing a millenarian aim,

00:25:26.900 a better and brighter future for everyone, which I think can be, even at any age, is an enticing promise.

00:25:41.180 Seeing as you concluded your interview, as we were discussing this, on The War Room last week,

00:25:49.900 and also your article in human events with basically the antidote to communism is a

00:25:55.060 resurgence of american and christian values just tell me look give me if you can otherwise we'll

00:26:00.860 carry it now we will carry this over into the second half of the show how do you expect that

00:26:05.640 resurgence to take place unless and until the right finds a way of having of slogan

00:26:15.360 sloganizing, if you will, its truths to the degree of effectiveness that the left

00:26:23.320 has traditionally been able to do. Yes, I think that's absolutely essential to do so.

00:26:30.880 I know we'll go into a break now, but Ben, I think we can pick this up after the break.

00:26:36.680 That is the first point. It's absolutely essential to do so.

00:26:40.080 all right okay back in two minutes after this short break with dr bradley thayer fellow of

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00:31:53.140 Well, Dr. Theo, you can bind in your answer to the question that we're discussing in the first half of the show.

00:32:03.120 Now, in the second half, let's start off with the hook.

00:32:07.800 to do that this article that was in new york magazine that just i think it dropped

00:32:14.500 the day after you and i were discussing your book here um and the the the great

00:32:22.760 analysis that you have on cultural marxism because here is

00:32:27.080 this i mean i actually think what's in this article is the conspiracy theory but it's it

00:32:37.340 They're citing our old friends at the Southern Poverty Law Centre.

00:32:40.740 They're saying that, and I quote,

00:32:43.080 cultural Marxism as a narrative promotes anti-Semitic falsehoods

00:32:48.220 about a cabal composed of Jewish intellectuals,

00:32:53.100 quote, quote, nefarious communistic destroyers of the American way of life. 0.99

00:33:00.580 Well, the fact that some of the leading proponents of the Frankfurt School 0.86

00:33:05.520 or Jewish, I think is uncontrovertible. But that's not really heart and soul of the analysis

00:33:14.080 of cultural Marxism. But that's what New York Magazine is concentrating on. Why? Because they

00:33:19.820 want to suggest that people who talk in these terms are obviously pursuing an anti-Semitic

00:33:25.320 agenda and therefore can be dismissed without analysing or debating the merits of the argument

00:33:33.660 itself. And so, you know, we did this when you came on the show before. It's here in the book

00:33:40.020 itself. But just again, in your own words, just tell us exactly what the idea of cultural Marxism

00:33:50.240 is about. Well, certainly. Cultural Marxism is rooted in Lenin's thought, and also the ideas

00:33:58.100 of left-wing Bolsheviks at the time. That would be in the period, particularly while Lenin was

00:34:05.120 alive and very active, controlling the Bolshevik party. And those ideas were, of course, to remake

00:34:12.460 everything in Russia, as well as about Western civilization and Western democracies, including

00:34:20.140 the culture, certainly the politics, the economic system, the cultural system, sports, every aspect

00:34:29.420 of it was to be remade. And that was the radical nature of Bolsheviks that we're witnessing, 0.87

00:34:35.260 of course, in the West today. So one way, of course, to do that effectively is to focus on 0.86

00:34:44.140 on culture, as left-wing Bolsheviks identified, particularly a very important commissar of

00:34:51.700 education called Lunacharsky, who had key ideas on what you need to focus, how culture can shape

00:35:03.240 very importantly and effectively identity, especially among the young, but others. And so

00:35:10.440 by focusing on the culture, particularly in the West, you would be able to bring about

00:35:16.300 revolutionary change. Now, those ideas expanded, of course, intentionally, but from the Bolsheviks 0.86

00:35:22.440 to what we call the Frankfurt School, and they also heavily informed Gromsky. So, Lenin and

00:35:29.140 the Bolsheviks, again, are giving Western communists the tools, the toolkit, the instruction 0.86

00:35:35.760 manual with regard to how to proceed. The Frankfurt School essentially was launched in 1923 0.89

00:35:44.200 with the intent of really applying those ideas to target the ideas industry, but to target the

00:35:51.300 culture industry in particular, film, theater, literature, Hollywood. All were going to be

00:35:59.220 influenced by communist ideas gradually, what the Bolsheviks called at the time boring from within,

00:36:07.940 entering into an institution, whether that's Hollywood or radio or television, and gradually

00:36:15.460 interjecting communist ideas to shift in time popular identity and national identity towards

00:36:26.640 towards communism. Now, Adorno, Horkheimer, the Frankfurt School, of course, had some of their

00:36:34.080 own ideas, but the strategy, the intent, and the tactics are given to them by the Bolsheviks, 0.91

00:36:40.320 and they did that supremely successfully at unhinging the culture of the West, as you know, 0.67

00:36:47.400 targeting religion to drive the church out. The church is a major target always because it offers

00:36:54.100 the alternative, an antidote. By targeting the church, you're able to destroy it. You can capture

00:36:59.640 the church so that you have been, I know the Catholic Church today or the Church of England

00:37:06.060 or Episcopal, Lutheran, Methodist churches are all shadows by design of what they once were. 0.58

00:37:16.800 The father, targeting the family, undermining the father, eliminating the father is also

00:37:23.160 essential because that is another source of power. Civil society, the Boy Scouts, the Girl Scouts,

00:37:29.560 have to be targeted as well. By destroying those institutions, you are, if you will,

00:37:38.760 decapitating a society. You're preventing a society from reproducing, from remaking itself,

00:37:45.400 using culture as a tool to do so. Museums, film, we know how film has changed. Of course,

00:37:53.880 cinema has changed. Literature, how it has as well. So the Frankfurt School is not a conspiracy.

00:38:03.000 Lenin and the Bolsheviks told you what to do. They're simply realizing it. And having realized

00:38:09.320 it very effectively when we reflect on that we've been at this conflict for 100 years,

00:38:15.320 and their success has been undeniably great as they've moved the United States and the West toward

00:38:23.320 the situation we're now in, a revolutionary situation.

00:38:28.440 They've also broadened ideas. Lenin did not think that much about immigration. He did think about

00:38:35.640 nations considerably, and he thought about changing populations and moving populations,

00:38:40.720 to be sure. But today, of course, the communists, the neo-Leninists recognize the importance of

00:38:49.120 population transfer, of bringing in millions, tens of millions of non-Western peoples into the West

00:38:58.400 to destabilize them, to bring about, of course, revolution. 0.93

00:39:03.600 Okay, let me hold you on that point.

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00:41:24.320 your book and you mention in the human events article as well the another strategy um

00:41:32.180 that originates with lenin and that is the worse the better and your intuition is that is exactly why

00:41:44.460 the democrats are pursuing so vigorously policies they know will make life so much worse

00:41:53.820 for ordinary americans because the policy is the worse the better just i know you said this when

00:42:00.420 came on the show before but can you build a little bit more onto that analysis as a strategy

00:42:07.040 and how it's and i think it dovetails nicely into what you're saying just before the ad read

00:42:13.420 in terms of the invasion for example but just say if you wouldn't mind a bit more about

00:42:19.800 how that that strategy the worse the better is being implemented in today's politics by the left

00:42:27.880 and specifically by the Socialist Democrats?

00:42:33.980 Certainly, Ben.

00:42:34.760 So the Bolsheviks had that as their mantra, 0.92

00:42:38.700 which was they needed to make things worse in Russia 0.82

00:42:43.560 in order to facilitate a revolution.

00:42:46.360 That is, they would not support the Russian army

00:42:48.380 in its war against Germany.

00:42:50.420 They would betray, essentially, their identity

00:42:53.600 as Russian nationalists

00:42:55.820 because they were not Russian nationalists.

00:42:57.520 were working to undermine the Russian army, the Russian war effort, the government of Russia,

00:43:04.320 the Church of Russia. Everything that was holding the society together, they sought to undermine.

00:43:10.320 By making things worse for the Russian people, they were advancing revolution. They were making 0.86

00:43:16.560 it more likely that the communist revolution would come about. So the worse, the better for them,

00:43:21.680 that is for the Bolsheviks. So we have that today. The worse, the better. Ben, I would ask you, 1.00

00:43:27.280 why does the British Labour Party not stop illegal immigration? Despite every opinion poll 1.00

00:43:35.520 saying that the British people are fed up with immigration, as in Europe, or the Irish people

00:43:41.440 as well throughout Europe. Well, why? Well, the worse, the better. The point is not

00:43:48.560 to even assist the immigrants or to facilitate that whatsoever. It is because they're a cudgel. 1.00

00:43:54.720 They're a weapon to be used against the populations of Europe, as the Biden administration did that against Americans.

00:44:02.500 And were Democrats to return to office in 2029, we know that within three minutes, Ben, there would be executive orders that open the border again.

00:44:12.740 With the intent of bringing in 60 million, not just 20 million, or Bonvino's argument that there are 105 million illegal immigrants in the United States. 0.52

00:44:23.640 But to add to that astronomical number, another 60, with the point of destroying the United States as a constitutional government. 0.64

00:44:33.000 So the strategy is the worst.

00:44:34.700 So the idea, the strategy is to make ordinary life unviable.

00:44:42.580 And to humiliate.

00:44:44.420 To make ordinary everyday life unviable.

00:44:49.820 So it cannot survive.

00:44:52.040 Same thing in the UK, same thing in the United States.

00:44:57.460 The invasion is a key part of that, right?

00:45:00.000 It's just to make living impossible. 0.99

00:45:05.280 They use the term immiserization, right? 1.00

00:45:08.780 To immiserate a population, right? 0.74

00:45:11.420 To put you in a state of perpetual misery with no escape from it 0.89

00:45:18.320 so that your only alternative, of course, is to accept what's coming, which is the communist

00:45:26.020 revolution. So, Ben, when we look at that situation, we can see it. Why is it you have

00:45:30.900 immigration without end, despite populations in Canada, the United States, Australia, 0.76

00:45:37.980 UK, Europe saying we want an end to this and a reversal of it? Well, because you've got 0.96

00:45:45.960 neo-Leninists in charge. They're never going to change that policy because that is the cudgel

00:45:51.920 they're using to destroy your society, to humiliate the population and to immiserate them.

00:45:59.040 Those are the tools that they're employing. Why do the Democrats not stand at the State of the

00:46:05.700 Union address in February 2026? President Trump asked that question rhetorically. Why don't the

00:46:15.960 Why don't they stand? The worse, the better. They did not stand to celebrate American heroes,

00:46:21.400 the army warrant officer who was wounded in Venezuela and was a hero, or the other

00:46:27.720 Augusta Americans and other notable individuals who were acknowledged by President Trump at the

00:46:34.900 State of the Union address. Why? Why do they have Leninist discipline? If they were a normal

00:46:41.400 political party two three five ten twenty would have stood to celebrate let me let me push back

00:46:48.680 if i may let me just push back if i may um on what you're saying as what where are we now

00:46:56.240 end of august heading towards the midterms in november why is it accepting everything that

00:47:03.880 you're laying out here as being true why is it we never hear the gop talking about

00:47:10.120 immiseration and the strategy of

00:47:13.860 the communists. Why? Absolutely nothing

00:47:16.820 from them on this subject.

00:47:19.760 What is your, how do we

00:47:23.480 persuade people to come out and vote

00:47:27.860 in November if the party we're trying to persuade people to come and

00:47:31.740 support seems to be sublimely

00:47:34.840 indifferent to the

00:47:37.780 actual substantial issues that in your free time you have put together and outlined in

00:47:47.700 America's Hundred Years' War? Ben, it's clear to me that there are several options

00:47:56.020 in orders of essentially the least likely to the most likely. One would be that they're ignorant 0.99

00:48:02.560 of this. Okay, that's a plausible explanation. I don't think that's the case. These are supremely

00:48:09.180 political animals, and I think they know what's going on. Secondly would be they're captured

00:48:14.040 by it. There are reasons why they don't want to call attention to this, because it's upsetting

00:48:21.800 the status quo too much. To call attention to the danger, to call attention to the urgency of

00:48:29.280 the hour would upset, if you will, a status quo, which has served the elite extremely well.

00:48:35.800 And they simply don't want to do that. So I think that is, when we're talking about many

00:48:42.700 individuals in the Republican Party, that's certainly the case. Thirdly, I think it is

00:48:48.640 certainly the case that they have difficulty in truly advancing an America First agenda for that

00:48:57.040 Republican Party. It would be so helpful and so obvious in terms of the solutions of what were

00:49:02.720 needed to indeed to call this out, to say, this is what the Democrats are doing. This is how we're

00:49:07.860 going to defeat it. This is how we're going to help Americans. And if you vote for these individuals,

00:49:14.600 that is the Democrats and their allies, you're going to be in a very, very dark place very

00:49:20.900 quickly, a totalitarian place very quickly. Those are the dangers. So they have difficulty,

00:49:27.400 as you observed, Ben, advancing that message to describe the urgency of the hour. Is that because

00:49:36.000 their donors don't want them to do it? Because at the end of the day, the donors are paying the bills,

00:49:41.080 that is the pecuniary costs of running parties. That is certainly a possibility as well,

00:49:51.580 despite the fact that if we do not right the ship immediately, the United States as a

00:49:59.520 constitutional republic is going to be lost, and all of the money that the donors have

00:50:05.060 we'll be for naught, we'll be worthless.

00:50:10.160 Sometimes it is difficult to know exactly whose side the donors are on,

00:50:20.480 especially when you're outlining what's really at stake here,

00:50:26.000 what the underlying causes are in such a structural and analytical way.

00:50:30.440 And as I'm sitting here over the past week reading your book here, as I'm sitting here on the wall and talking to you, I'm just struck at the realization nobody in the GOP, they're all interested in fundraising.

00:50:45.580 They're all interested, you know, all that money that people are going to donate will go to the consultants, obviously, right?

00:50:51.040 That's the priority.

00:50:51.880 But no one is, I've never heard anyone talking about a miseration before. 0.92

00:51:00.440 then the Bolsheviks were 0.92

00:51:04.120 experts at political warfare 0.95

00:51:06.340 and a key aspect of that was creating

00:51:08.540 anti-Bolshevik groups

00:51:10.240 so the Bolsheviks ran

00:51:12.460 anti-Bolsheviks groups

00:51:14.100 the intent of the anti-Bolshevik group

00:51:16.800 which was completely captured

00:51:18.180 of course by the Bolsheviks 0.87

00:51:19.500 was to draw folks out

00:51:21.680 to draw the opposition out

00:51:23.760 of course

00:51:25.280 it's the original controlled

00:51:28.460 opposition

00:51:29.060 um in uh in uniparty politics gladly they're very grateful as always thanks for for um giving us

00:51:38.460 your analysis on these things um your book here once again america's 100 years war you get that

00:51:45.980 on amazon and all other good bookshops where do many people go on x to keep up with your analysis

00:51:57.040 10 seconds, if you wouldn't mind, please.

00:51:59.560 Certainly, Ben.

00:52:00.260 Wonderful to join the audience and you again tonight.

00:52:03.400 And at Brad Thayer at X and Bradley Thayer Getter in Truth, Ben.

00:52:07.160 And my website is bradleythayer.com, where folks can also go.

00:52:11.620 Thank you, Ben.

00:52:12.320 Dr. Bradley Thayer.

00:52:13.220 Thank you.

00:52:13.560 Thank you very much.

00:52:14.400 Very deeply honored for you coming on.

00:52:16.160 That's all we've got time for.

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WarRoom Battleground EP 1080： Dr. Bradley Thayer On Communists’ “Incandescent Hatred” For The Judeo-Christian West

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