Bannon's War Room - September 08, 2026


WarRoom Battleground EP 1082: Germany First Leads To Victory In Germany


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00:00:00.000 Charlie Kirk is a young man from Turning Point.
00:00:14.040 Close your eyes for just a moment, hear that familiar sound, a quiet voice that cut the
00:00:23.800 chaos. When the world was burning loud, he didn't promise easy answers. Didn't say the road was
00:00:33.980 clear. Just said, come walk a little farther. Truth is stronger than your fear. And somehow
00:00:44.700 When the noise and doubt
00:00:48.440 He made us feel like we belonged
00:00:53.740 We miss you, Charlie
00:00:57.340 We still hear your song
00:01:01.440 You said, come with me
00:01:04.000 There's a world where truth is strong
00:01:07.660 We miss you, Charlie
00:01:11.040 You showed us how to see
00:01:14.500 A better world ahead of us
00:01:18.920 Born from belief
00:01:20.980 And imagination free
00:01:24.800 You saw more than what was broken
00:01:29.680 More than headlines, more than rage
00:01:32.820 You saw hearts that needed courage
00:01:36.580 Not permission from the age
00:01:40.440 Things bigger than the moment
00:01:43.700 Don't let them shrink your mind
00:01:47.880 If you can see it, you can feel it
00:01:50.680 If you're willing to be kind
00:01:53.940 Now the room feels different somehow
00:01:59.620 Like a light still left on
00:02:05.780 We miss you, Tom
00:02:09.300 But the door you open
00:02:11.480 But the door you open, stay, you said, come with me, let's imagine unafraid, we miss you, Charlie, you helped us all believe, that the future's now decided, it's waiting on the brave, if you want hope, just look around, every voice you helped awaken.
00:02:41.480 You said the world could be more honest
00:02:45.140 More free than what we're shown
00:02:48.600 So we're building what you saw back then
00:02:52.340 A place that feels like home
00:02:55.740 We miss you, Charlie
00:02:59.000 But we're not alone tonight
00:03:02.020 You said come with me
00:03:05.760 There's a truth beyond the fight
00:03:10.240 We miss you Charlie
00:03:12.700 Your vision still runs free
00:03:15.640 A world shaped by conviction and imagination
00:03:21.680 In you and me
00:03:26.960 We miss you Charlie
00:03:36.420 Close your eyes, take a step, it's closer than you think.
00:03:50.700 welcome it is uh tuesday 8 september year of our lord 2026 uh i want to thank you the eve of our
00:04:10.080 convention coverage we're gonna get all into it matt meck from the big conference up in vegas
00:04:15.380 He's going to join us about the storm we've got to do to make sure the election's not stolen.
00:04:22.420 Mo Bannon's going to be working on technical issues.
00:04:25.800 Mo's going to join us actually from our studio at the convention.
00:04:30.220 And Brent Hamaker, who just published this book, came out today under John Solomon's imprint called The Intellect of Charlie Kirk.
00:04:36.520 This was one of Charlie's co-writers of his books.
00:04:39.400 We'll get to all that.
00:04:40.680 uh also jake seawolf here to talk to us about preparation preparedness but i want to start i
00:04:47.700 got peter bystrom from the um alternative for deutschland one of the senior one of the senior
00:04:52.840 uh folks in alternative for deutschland uh peter after many years you had an absolute
00:04:58.960 blowout victory victory on sunday i was doing german tv and they were not happy i mean these
00:05:08.060 reporters that were uh interviewing me i said hey look these these individuals have worked on this
00:05:14.560 for years the german people have stepped up they say they want their sovereignty back
00:05:18.280 and the snarky comments i got from the reporters are supposed to be even-handed of mainstream
00:05:24.580 german media they are furious about what happened can you walk our audience through obviously
00:05:31.100 they know and love alternative for deutschland what was this election about and quite frankly
00:05:36.660 How did you do such huge numbers that even Mertz and all these globalists that have destroyed German industry are sitting there warning?
00:05:45.400 They say, hey, we got a problem.
00:05:47.160 We can't sweep this under the rug anymore.
00:05:49.760 The German people are getting back of what they call a far right right wing fascist party.
00:05:55.340 Peter Burstam, walk us through what happened, sir.
00:05:59.200 Yeah. Hi, Steve. Nice to see you again.
00:06:02.340 And you're right. It was a fantastic.
00:06:04.660 It was a historic victory in Saxony-Anhalt.
00:06:08.640 We got 44%.
00:06:11.320 And without the mail-in ballots, we got 55%.
00:06:18.160 So it was really huge.
00:06:21.780 And other very important point is that we had the participation at this election by nearly 80%.
00:06:29.860 So nearly everybody went to the election.
00:06:32.940 And the people were mobilized.
00:06:35.680 And the reason was that they got hope.
00:06:38.100 There was real hope the first time since the fall of the wall, of the Berlin Wall.
00:06:44.980 The people felt that there is a possibility of substantial political change.
00:06:51.840 And that was the reason why they elected us.
00:06:55.260 This is the reason why the mainstream media and all our political opponents are so sorry
00:07:01.620 for the expression was also pissed off because they were all campaigning against us.
00:07:06.460 There were a bunch of NGOs paid by the government.
00:07:09.160 They spent a lot of money just to avoid this historic victory, and they failed.
00:07:14.920 They failed all.
00:07:16.380 So this is incredible.
00:07:20.940 A couple of things.
00:07:22.620 Number one, you finally got a reaction, Mertz, in the leaders, the elites in Germany from
00:07:30.340 both sides of the spectrum, both Christian Democrats, everybody, they finally came together
00:07:36.400 and one voice said, this is no longer a fringe group. This is no longer a joke. This is serious
00:07:43.760 and they're going to destroy the institutions of Germany. We have to step in and prevent that,
00:07:50.300 right? Walk me through that. Walk me through the elite's response because I can tell you from the
00:07:54.540 media, when they contacted me, they were furious. They're very angry, very angry about what happened.
00:08:00.900 They couldn't stop it. But tell me about the German elites that have, Peter, as you know,
00:08:05.240 have gone out of the way to de-industrialize Germany over the last 10 or 20 years, sir.
00:08:11.860 Well, you mentioned three points. Let's start with the de-industrialization of Germany. Not 0.55
00:08:17.660 we are going to de-industrialize Germany. 0.99
00:08:21.100 They did it already. 0.96
00:08:23.140 And this election result is an answer on it.
00:08:27.000 Look, we have every day news, even in the mainstream media,
00:08:31.180 that some businesses are going bankrupt or other companies are leaving Germany.
00:08:35.660 We have every year over 200,000 high-skilled Germans
00:08:40.440 who are leaving Germany, going to the United States, Switzerland, and Austria.
00:08:45.700 and we have really a lot of companies
00:08:49.320 the big international companies
00:08:50.700 going to China or to the USA
00:08:52.600 mostly they're leaving Germany
00:08:54.140 because they are not able to produce here
00:08:57.000 in a competitive way
00:08:59.560 this is the one point
00:09:01.420 the second point
00:09:02.320 you mentioned Merz
00:09:03.720 and this is a true globalist
00:09:05.880 this election result is also answer
00:09:09.560 to the blatant lies
00:09:11.840 of the Chancellor Merz
00:09:14.100 He promised before the election to the federal parliament, the last election, he promised, and I'm quoting, the left is over.
00:09:25.520 So he was campaigning with the AFD program.
00:09:30.120 So he created the impression that he will rule the country together with the AFD.
00:09:36.240 So he got a lot of votes.
00:09:39.520 The people voted for right-wing politics for a coalition of CDU and AFD.
00:09:44.100 And but immediately, immediately at the election day, they got the opposite.
00:09:49.180 Matt said, no, no, no, I'm not going to work with AFD.
00:09:51.960 And he did a coalition with the socialists.
00:09:54.420 This is a betrayal.
00:09:55.420 And other people are sick of it.
00:09:57.340 They are sick to be told before the election, we are going to do a conservative right wing 1.00
00:10:03.340 politics and then get again and again and again, this leftist globalist shit. 1.00
00:10:11.300 Yeah. 0.99
00:10:11.460 So this election was the answer, absolutely the answer on the lies and betrayals of the mainstream and of Friedrich Merz.
00:10:24.920 Peter, take a second for our audience, because I deal with you guys behind the scenes and I know the NGO suppression, the police suppression, the legal, they come after you guys.
00:10:36.220 What was it in this election with very little money?
00:10:39.920 What is AFD, Alternative for Deutschland, stand for?
00:10:43.760 When you say alternative, what is the alternative?
00:10:46.660 What do you stand for?
00:10:48.040 And how did that rally so many everyday Germans who are clearly not fringe element and not
00:10:54.720 crazies, but just mainstream Germans to your cause politically?
00:10:58.880 What was the message that not just that you guys put out with media and talks and speech,
00:11:05.440 but what they see that you guys, your core beliefs?
00:11:07.780 What is it that attracts now essentially half of the German voting population, sir?
00:11:16.200 That's very easy. That's very easy. You can put it in one sentence. 0.99
00:11:20.180 It's to do politics for the German people again.
00:11:24.300 This is the same or the same promise with which Donald Trump won the election in the United States when he said America first.
00:11:33.020 And we are saying, now we will do the politics just for the German people.
00:11:41.300 And this is the exactly opposite of what Merz is doing.
00:11:45.460 Merz's inauguration speech.
00:11:47.600 I was there personally in the German parliament when he had this speech.
00:11:53.760 And you have to imagine, this is a big speech.
00:11:58.500 The host is full.
00:12:00.240 All cameras are on you.
00:12:01.680 you just won the election, you are presenting your new government, and you are presenting to
00:12:07.100 the whole nation, what is your program for your country for the next four years? And what did
00:12:14.640 Merz? He was talking about Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine. For two-thirds of his speech, he was
00:12:23.320 speaking about Ukraine. And this is how he's ruling the country. He's spending money for Ukraine.
00:12:29.360 He's spending money for European Union. 0.99
00:12:33.300 He is spending money for some stupid green deal of things, you know, nobody wants. 0.96
00:12:40.880 He is spending money for migrations. 0.97
00:12:44.760 And if you put it all together, it makes more than 100 billion euro every year, which is
00:12:52.260 spent for people who are not Germans or ideological projects of the radical extreme leftists and
00:13:01.700 environmentalists. And the people don't want it. They have other problems. They see that we have
00:13:06.940 heavy problems with illegal migrations. We promised, AFD promised, re-migration. We will 1.00
00:13:14.020 send them back. And people want exactly this. They want the clear cut of the migration policy. They
00:13:21.320 They want heavy re-migrations. 1.00
00:13:24.280 They want security on the streets. 1.00
00:13:27.060 No more raping, no more stabbing, knife stabbing on the streets.
00:13:31.760 They just want to live their ordinary lives in a safe and prosperous country.
00:13:40.540 Real quickly, in the week in the run-up, a bunch of German economic institutions came out and said,
00:13:46.500 hey, whatever AFD says, the German economy will collapse, not because of Mertz and the
00:13:52.680 elites' de-industrialization.
00:13:54.520 The German economy is going to collapse if the remigration plan works, or if they just 0.96
00:14:00.440 put enough fear into the illegal immigrants that they go home, that the German economy 1.00
00:14:05.380 cannot function right now without this massive inflow of migrants. 1.00
00:14:10.820 Your thoughts, sir? 1.00
00:14:11.540 yeah well before brexit the same scientists were saying that the united kingdom will collapse when
00:14:21.480 it uh enter out of the european union and they that the brits will have no oranges from spain
00:14:29.240 and stuff like this nothing of this become true and it's the same with the german economy
00:14:36.240 Let's face the facts, okay? Let's face the facts. We have the highest taxes since years. The state is taking the highest amount of money from its own citizens. So we have really the highest state income several years after each other.
00:14:56.740 And at the same time, we have the highest debt and also the highest new debts.
00:15:04.160 So they are unable to rule the country without making new debts, even if they take the highest amount of taxes ever. 0.58
00:15:13.920 And it says everything in connection to what I said before, that spending the money even for people living abroad, for ideological projects, destroying Germany, the result is clear.
00:15:32.460 People say enough is enough.
00:15:35.100 We don't want this.
00:15:36.980 And again, we are the party of economical competence.
00:15:42.620 We would lower the taxes.
00:15:44.960 We would let the industry back. 0.99
00:15:47.300 You know, we would make even peace with Russia.
00:15:50.260 We want for the German industry to have the cheap gas again so that our industry could produce in a competitive way.
00:15:58.900 We would be the guarantee for an economical growth in Germany.
00:16:03.360 you know the the pupil has become the student here and that you guys followed the MAGA movement
00:16:12.760 and obviously all of us are very close to you guys but i want to put on from this morning's show
00:16:18.180 we had the the basically the architect and the father of the precinct strategy which is the way
00:16:23.580 the MAGA movement actually takes control of the republican party and led trump to victory in 22
00:16:29.120 end in 24. Let's go ahead and play from Dan Schultz this morning, a hat tip to Alternative
00:16:35.640 for Deutschland. Let's go ahead and play it. We can learn from the Germans. The Alternative for
00:16:42.080 Deutschland election in Saxony-Anhalt, their turnout, and the reason they did so well,
00:16:49.680 is the turnout in that election was 76.5% of eligible voters. I looked it up yesterday.
00:16:58.140 And our our average turnout in a midterm election of Republicans is about 60 percent.
00:17:05.080 And we've got to do better than that, obviously.
00:17:07.780 And hopefully the the upcoming convention will hammer that home day after day after day.
00:17:14.140 There's a place to go at GOP dot com to to sign up for MAGA majority force dot com.
00:17:23.060 That's the get out the vote effort.
00:17:24.960 Protect the vote dot com.
00:17:26.360 sign up to be a poll worker or poll observer. We never have enough volunteers. And the bottom
00:17:35.580 line is we've got to have local grassroots precinct committeemen and other volunteers
00:17:42.660 boosting the turnout way beyond that 60% if we're going to prevail in this upcoming midterm
00:17:50.400 general election on November 3rd.
00:17:54.740 So, Peter, that is one of the leaders of our movement.
00:17:57.460 And as I talked to him before the show, when he came on, he said, hey, the alternative
00:18:00.600 for Deutschland guys need to be teaching us.
00:18:03.120 If we got the turnout that you got, we would pick up seats in the House.
00:18:08.240 It wouldn't be a question of whether President Trump, we're going to lose the House, he's
00:18:11.580 going to get impeached because the whole MAGA movement's in the balance here.
00:18:15.200 Just take a minute and walk our audience through this MAGA leadership in our audience.
00:18:20.400 What the Alternative for Deutschland did to get this tremendous turnout at the grassroots level, sir, with virtually no money.
00:18:28.680 Wow, what a compliment from Ed, I have to admit, because we learned from you.
00:18:35.520 We Alternative for Germany, we learned from Donald Trump, we learned from MAGA, you know it, we met several years, we have this exchange.
00:18:44.160 And this is the reason why we won now and why we mobilized so many people to the elections.
00:18:52.600 You know, our candidate, Ulrich Sigmund, he was saying, like, we are not going to make any compromises.
00:19:01.980 We are not going to coalitions with those loser parties.
00:19:06.200 We want to rule the country alone.
00:19:09.180 We are the strong country.
00:19:10.540 We promise we will deliver the change.
00:19:14.160 And that was crucial.
00:19:17.780 With this approach, we were able to mobilize people who were not voting in the last elections
00:19:24.480 and their huge amount of non-voters because they were completely disillusioned by the
00:19:31.440 politics of the old, of the other parties.
00:19:33.840 They saw it makes no sense to go to the elections because they get always the same, just painted
00:19:40.620 in other color.
00:19:42.140 And now, this is what I said at the very beginning, this is the first time since the fall of the Berlin Wall, the people are really feeling that a substantial political change is coming, that a substantial political change is possible, and this change is only possible with the AFD.
00:20:05.880 and the last point
00:20:09.320 the essence is
00:20:11.280 we are a true populist
00:20:13.300 party and I mean it in a very
00:20:15.220 positive sense of this
00:20:17.240 meaning of the word because
00:20:19.180 it comes from Latin, populus
00:20:21.140 it's the people
00:20:22.520 we are the only party which is
00:20:24.980 really doing what
00:20:27.120 the people want
00:20:28.520 and this is exactly what
00:20:30.960 Ed is saying
00:20:31.880 if you
00:20:33.960 will be able
00:20:36.340 to get this information to the people,
00:20:40.320 you will automatically win
00:20:42.200 because the majority of the people
00:20:44.120 wants exactly this.
00:20:45.680 They don't want to be betrothed
00:20:47.380 by the globalists,
00:20:49.020 which promised them
00:20:50.520 before of the election things.
00:20:53.280 They know that the people want to hear,
00:20:55.600 but starts immediately after the election
00:20:58.620 to do the opposite.
00:21:00.460 The people just want
00:21:02.240 normal life in a safe
00:21:04.980 prosperous country
00:21:06.600 and the politics can do it
00:21:09.000 very easily if the
00:21:10.980 politics focus on
00:21:12.680 people and not on wars
00:21:15.140 in other countries or
00:21:16.900 in financing
00:21:18.540 ideological projects
00:21:20.960 of the Greens or
00:21:22.740 supporting
00:21:23.680 movements which are saying that we have
00:21:26.520 56 sexes and 1.00
00:21:28.840 all other stupid things like this. 1.00
00:21:32.240 peter you guys are an inspiration alice vital beaters van storch yourself peter bystrom all 1.00
00:21:40.140 the people you guys have labored and fought and never wavered for years and years and years a
00:21:46.500 great victory i know it's just the beginning of great things because the establishment the
00:21:50.260 globalist in brussels and the globalists in the german establishment are in panic mode so we know
00:21:56.440 good things are going to happen peter where can our audience follow you and alternatives for
00:22:00.820 deutschland do you have a like a home page we can go to do you have social media we can follow
00:22:05.960 sure i have everything facebook website but the best thing would be to go on x peter byston afd
00:22:16.600 on x there is a lot of english content that where even the american audience can follow
00:22:23.500 comment and you are highly welcome there. Peter, make sure you tell all the leaders
00:22:31.720 in AFD, you're on the war room today and all day we're talking about how the pupils have become
00:22:38.800 the teachers. You are teaching us and reminding us of the basic facts. We've got to get back to
00:22:44.580 basics. We have to go door to door. Our policies are correct, just like yours are. And if we get
00:22:50.680 them out to the people, we can win an overwhelming victory. If we just sit back, they're going to
00:22:56.220 take the House of Representatives and they're going to impeach Donald Trump. So make sure
00:22:59.520 everybody in Germany understands and everybody in the leadership of AFD understands. You have
00:23:05.260 become the teachers now, and we're going to follow your example and run through the next 55 days
00:23:09.640 to have hopefully as big a victory as you guys had on Sunday here in the United States. So
00:23:14.480 honored to have you on here and honored to be considered part of helping you guys because you
00:23:20.500 are terrific and you've been a leader you're saving the german nation you're saving europe
00:23:24.680 you're going to save western christendom with your great action so sir thank you for joining
00:23:29.360 us today appreciate you steve thank you very much for your work you're doing exceptional work and
00:23:36.680 we all appreciate it you have a lot of audience in europe thank you guys do the best thank you
00:23:43.520 thank you brother appreciate you matt mech i can't think of a better tee up for the storm this is what
00:23:51.220 the storm convention in and conference in las vegas is about right there that inspiration
00:23:57.400 re-migration door-to-door everything what do we have any more tickets we have to sell because we
00:24:02.300 want it sold out uh because this is going to be really i think as much as the convention is because
00:24:08.340 as you know they're pulling their punches on some of the issues you guys are not what do you got for
00:24:13.080 us? Where do people go? How do you get tickets if they can't? If not, where are they going to
00:24:17.440 live stream this? Matt Meck. Sir, you're absolutely right. And what you said, what we
00:24:23.000 won out of the Republican convention, what Peter just said, that's the kind of message you want
00:24:28.280 to hear from our leaders. Do your damn job. And we're watching. And what they can do, Steve, 1.00
00:24:34.500 go to stormsummit.us to get tickets. We have about a handful left. I mean, probably less than 10.
00:24:39.040 And we're also going to live stream it to this site.
00:24:43.180 I know I've been talking to Rob and Parker Sig for them to cover it.
00:24:47.260 A lot of podcasters are going to cover this on their respective outlets.
00:24:51.160 So it'll be there.
00:24:52.060 We're also going to record it.
00:24:53.240 So it'll be on our site afterwards.
00:24:56.040 But the stormsummit.us, and you're right, we've done exactly this with your help over
00:25:00.860 the last five years.
00:25:01.760 This coalition and its groups of groups of groups have gone around this country, in the
00:25:07.080 counties, in the cities, teaching, educating people, because where the hell has the RNC been?
00:25:12.220 Nowhere. We had to fill that gap. Many in this group, others too, had to fill that damn gap.
00:25:19.940 It's incredible. By the way, it's going to be on War Room. It's going to be on my personal site. 0.98
00:25:23.820 It's going to be on Getter, on Rumble, this live stream. Everybody's going to get to see this.
00:25:28.340 The speakers are incredible. The workshops are incredible. Your energy is incredible. And you're
00:25:32.520 Right. If we just get in back of groups like the coalition and Matt Meck and the team at the Storm Summit, if we just get back to this in the next 50 days, the same type of miracle that happened in Germany on Sunday with Alternative for Deutschland, because they're trying to put them all in prison, too, to just folks trying to save their country.
00:25:51.500 The middle class and working class in Germany came out on Sunday and said, hey, we've heard
00:25:56.140 the globalists.
00:25:57.160 We've seen what the elites are trying to do to our country.
00:25:59.580 All they want to do is get us in a war with the Russians and war in Ukraine.
00:26:02.400 We're not going to tolerate it. 1.00
00:26:03.560 We need focus here and we need remigration. 1.00
00:26:06.120 Get these foreigners the hell out of our country. 1.00
00:26:08.340 And this is the coalition. 1.00
00:26:09.800 The coalition starts with, hey, if you don't have fair elections and free elections, you
00:26:14.040 don't have a country.
00:26:14.820 Matt Mack, one more time, where do people go if they want a ticket or watch the live
00:26:18.600 stream?
00:26:18.900 storm summit.us storm summit.us and i've told everybody just called me hundreds have called
00:26:24.720 i said i'm sure steve bannon is going to give a barn burner of a speech and he'll fire us the hell
00:26:28.960 up i will i commit i will give a barn burner but you know what it's the coalition that makes the
00:26:36.580 difference it's the people there i'm just some i'm just some mick screaming into a microphone
00:26:41.840 matt mac i couldn't be prouder of you and boy it worked out you followed alternative for deutschland
00:26:47.240 and dan schultz today just fantastic okay short commercial break we're gonna return we're gonna
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00:37:00.180 uh in dallas uh we're going to go back to her as soon as we get her up but i got something very
00:37:05.260 special that john solomon made us aware of over the weekend brent hammacher uh is with us brent
00:37:12.240 your association you've got a new book out the intellect of charlie kirk we did a show yesterday
00:37:17.080 on a special two hours which instead of doing all the kind of happy clappy you're going to see a lot
00:37:22.800 of which i think is fine we wanted to get because i've known charlie for so long getting back of it
00:37:26.960 and talk about Charlie Kirk, the work ethic of what Charlie did, and a big part of that
00:37:32.320 was the intellectual, what he did to really make himself smarter, to understand issues better,
00:37:37.560 etc. Your new book takes it one step further. You actually talk behind the scenes. John Solomon
00:37:44.300 called it almost like Tuesdays with Morris. Walk us through the book of the intellect of Charlie
00:37:49.140 Kirk, sir. Sure, I'd be happy to, and it's nice to be here. Thanks for having me, Steve. By the way,
00:37:54.740 I'm going to correct you only in honor of my father.
00:37:56.880 The last name is Hamacek.
00:37:58.580 So I don't want my dad rolling over in his brain.
00:38:00.940 But otherwise, I...
00:38:02.880 Hold on.
00:38:03.720 Is Hamacek, is it Czechoslovakian, Yugoslavian, Polish?
00:38:08.940 What is Hamacek? 0.66
00:38:11.020 It's bohemian.
00:38:12.680 So I'm a discontinued line, which means at my age, I better be careful because you're
00:38:17.420 not going to find parts for me, right?
00:38:20.180 So they don't make them anymore.
00:38:22.060 but look the the book is it was a lot of fun to put it together I never would have been smart
00:38:29.480 enough to think of doing it on my own this was the idea of John Solomon and Mark Meckler and it
00:38:35.360 came to them because in having a conversation going way back in April I happened to mention
00:38:41.300 to him in passing that I had sitting on my laptop just north of 370,000 words of content
00:38:49.760 that Charlie and I collaborated on over more than a decade.
00:38:54.380 And it was in the terms of opinion columns and radio show monologues.
00:38:59.440 And they thought it might be fun to bring some of that to life and curate it,
00:39:05.420 give it to the public and tell a story.
00:39:08.020 Because I started working with Charlie back when Charlie was just Charlie.
00:39:13.240 You know, our first collaboration was over New Year's Day in 2014.
00:39:19.760 and it ran all the way through last year and it included more than just creating content
00:39:26.180 it also included us working on media preparation persuasive communication techniques and even
00:39:35.500 studying political science political theory together and so the the experience exposure
00:39:42.940 I had with him the opportunity to be involved in seeing ideas come together and watching the
00:39:49.280 ideas get expressed. And then finally, being able to watch the ideas change and evolve over time
00:39:55.180 was a little bit unique. I've said to a couple of people, the one thing I know about this book
00:40:01.740 is that while there will be all sorts of different Charlie Kirk books written, and there should be,
00:40:08.260 everyone has a different story, there won't be a second one like this one, because the relationship
00:40:15.680 and the ground we covered together simply was singular.
00:40:19.960 And it was quite a ride for me.
00:40:21.380 It was very unexpected, not something that I had ever trained for, if you will.
00:40:28.500 He discovered me, is the simple truth.
00:40:33.840 Hang on, I want to go through this, because I think when I was at Breitbart,
00:40:37.460 I think we gave him his first job as a writer or the stringer that was going to cover college campuses.
00:40:42.420 It's one of the reasons that some of the Breitbart, the people in the back of Breitbart, were quite enamored with Charlie's pitch initially of a turning point about taking over the student governments.
00:40:51.660 And he wrote for us.
00:40:54.060 One of those columns got found by the people that came in and put in the first money.
00:40:58.940 But one thing about Charlie, and this is what the show was about, the work ethic.
00:41:02.860 When he started off something, it never launched perfectly.
00:41:06.840 In fact, it was quite imperfect.
00:41:07.920 It was Charlie's work ethic behind the scenes that people don't see, like the 10 binders.
00:41:12.600 When Charlie came to Breitbart, he didn't know a lot.
00:41:15.280 You know, he had, I think, gone to a month of college or something.
00:41:19.280 How was it?
00:41:20.840 Walk me through how you and Charlie working together got the guy up a learning curve that
00:41:27.660 when he was assassinated, I would argue that he was the single best communicator of not
00:41:36.280 just political philosophy and practical political policy, but that tough convergence of kind
00:41:41.900 of spirituality, meaning, purpose, and politics.
00:41:45.760 Walk us through how that all came together.
00:41:49.160 Well, I can speak to some of the beginnings of it.
00:41:53.140 You know, one of the great terms that people like to use all the time is they'll talk about
00:41:58.200 the Socratic method, and then you'll say, well, what is that?
00:42:01.820 And they'll say, well, it's asking questions.
00:42:04.140 There's actually a name for that.
00:42:05.780 that's called asking questions. The Socratic method is something that's really quite different
00:42:12.300 and deliberate. It is a process of questioning where the absolute key to asking the second
00:42:19.360 question is listening to the answer to the first. And it's sequential, it's top down,
00:42:25.300 it's big to small, and it is trying to get that person at the end of the process to say to
00:42:32.040 themselves, I never thought of that, or maybe I should think of that differently. And because
00:42:39.700 that's actually a technique, as opposed to something just random, like asking questions,
00:42:46.040 that's something that we were able to work through together. And so, you know, one of the jokes that
00:42:52.820 Charlie and I always used to have with one another was we talked about the 31 and a half years of
00:42:57.460 age difference between us. Felt it was always important to add that half year as if I wasn't
00:43:02.620 old enough. But point being, I'd been on the planet a little bit longer than he had been.
00:43:09.240 So there were some things that I had had the benefit of being able to learn and apply, practice,
00:43:14.620 fail, and all those things. And all I really did was share that experience with him. And certainly
00:43:22.040 he mastered it uh in a way that i could never even imagine right so i'm grateful to have had
00:43:30.580 the opportunity but hang on but hang on hang on i want to hang on i want to drill down on that point
00:43:36.240 because there's thirst for knowledge like i said when we first know him he didn't have a big
00:43:40.500 base to come off of his thirst for knowledge when he said master it walk us through how when he say
00:43:47.060 Charlie Kirk mastered it, and he didn't have a big foundation to start with. How did you guys do
00:43:53.220 that? How did you work with him to get him to master this as far as his intellect goes?
00:44:02.460 Well, by the way, you mentioned Breitbart in early days. In the book, Steve, the first opinion
00:44:10.000 column Charlie ever did was in Breitbart, and it is in the book. He sent it to me, actually,
00:44:16.680 They sent it to me the night we met, and I still had it, and so it's included in the
00:44:21.140 book with the proper setup and credit, if you will.
00:44:25.300 Look, here's what I can tell you with regard to your question, and that it really relates
00:44:30.760 to sort of the intensity of study, the application of intellect to learning, and anything that
00:44:39.700 Charlie and I ever did together.
00:44:41.160 Look, if I was supposed to be prepared, forgive me, but I better have been damn well prepared, because the intensity of the listening, the intensity of the questions, and everything from note-taking to reiteration to following up afterwards, whatever it was we were working on together, he didn't just listen to it in the moment.
00:45:06.000 He was actually listening to it beyond the moment, thinking about it, following up, and became, if there was something he wanted to master, you could take it as a given that he would, and that he would put in the work that was required to do it.
00:45:23.420 And again, I was just kind of lucky enough to be somebody who got to help in that process.
00:45:30.120 Totally unpredictable, unlikely story.
00:45:32.520 The story of how we met, by the way, and started to work together is in the book.
00:45:39.380 Brent, how do people, I want to know how they get the book and then how we get to your,
00:45:44.080 we want to have you on, once we get through the convention and get through the one year
00:45:50.260 commemoration, have you back on probably next week that we can take more time and go through
00:45:54.280 this.
00:45:54.620 But I want people to go now and to purchase it.
00:45:57.580 Where do people go, get the book, where they go to find out more about you, the making
00:46:01.640 of the book and your social media, your relationship with Charlie Kirk? Sure. Well, I appreciate you
00:46:07.100 asking. I'd love to come back. It's a privilege to be on a show with you. You've done so well for
00:46:11.600 so long. So nice to be here. You can get the book by going to Just the Marketplace, or excuse me,
00:46:20.060 I just said that backwards. I'm not helpful in selling books. Justthenetwork.com backslash
00:46:27.400 marketplace. So justthenetwork.com backslash marketplace, now that I made that very confusing
00:46:36.060 for your viewers. And in terms of the social media piece, look, I encourage everyone. I'm not
00:46:42.440 a social media person myself. I'm terribly antisocial, but follow everything that we do
00:46:49.020 at Just the News. Follow John Solomon's work, Human Events, Postmillennial Lyceum. Follow our
00:46:56.620 platforms. I'm happy to be part of starting a new platform within just the network, which is just
00:47:02.900 the books. This is our first book. It is just a book, but hopefully people will think it is
00:47:08.420 just quite a book. So there's a little play and alliteration for you at the end.
00:47:15.860 Very cool. Look, I'd love the intensity about the urgency and taking one part of Charlie's
00:47:21.520 and explaining it because by understanding this, I think you understand the whole man.
00:47:25.100 And Brent, thank you so much for being on here.
00:47:29.780 And I don't think the line has totally been shut down,
00:47:33.660 but I understand your homage to your father.
00:47:36.500 So thank you so much for coming on here.
00:47:37.860 I appreciate it.
00:47:38.300 Look forward to having me back next week.
00:47:40.420 Thank you very much.
00:47:41.440 I'd love to be back.
00:47:42.260 Appreciate it, Steve.
00:47:44.020 A true bohemian, not one of these phony bohemians.
00:47:48.140 Let's go now to, we worked out our technical situation.
00:47:52.300 I want to thank the folks in Denver.
00:47:53.320 Of course, the huge team we've got down there.
00:47:54.900 Let's go to Dallas, to the convention itself.
00:47:58.660 We got Mo Bannon actually in our studio.
00:48:01.760 We're going to be absolutely packed for the next four days.
00:48:03.940 Of course, Real America's Voice is going to have all the shows up there.
00:48:07.180 Mo, it looks magnificent, quite beautiful in the background.
00:48:11.080 We start tomorrow, I guess, with the morning show.
00:48:13.580 We're going to be there 10 to noon.
00:48:15.240 We'll be back at 5 o'clock.
00:48:17.160 Of course, you and Grace are going to be there.
00:48:18.680 We got Joe Allen's doing a debate with Lonsdale, kind of off-site.
00:48:22.740 There's all types of grassroots activities.
00:48:24.300 What are you looking forward to the most, Captain Mo Bannon?
00:48:30.600 I'm looking forward to hearing all the speakers, but especially our president, Donald J. Trump.
00:48:35.420 I'm very interested in his speech, and he will be the keynote speech tomorrow night.
00:48:41.260 But all the speakers, good list of speakers, but I love listening to President Trump speak, so I'm most interested in that speech.
00:48:48.360 um are you pitching for a job you already got a job you're in the board of west i'm just kidding
00:48:55.640 i gotta i gotta bust my shop i mean i think i think i'd be great in the pentagon or you know
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00:49:09.540 a secretary maybe the veterans administration i'd be great at that too
00:49:12.980 like secretary of the army just throwing it out there um no and the president's actually
00:49:20.220 deputy for that as well i've had a couple conversations we're very appreciative of
00:49:26.600 the work you're doing up with the academy you know president trump's very focused in the
00:49:29.600 academies mo as you know we've been pushing about this urgency the intensity there's tons
00:49:36.200 of grassroots activities you're going to be at representing us grace the great grace chong
00:49:41.000 others jojo we're bringing down what what's your sense of the grassroots right now what do we have 0.80
00:49:46.460 to do you heard alternative for deutschland we've had uh we've had ed martin on we've had the great
00:49:51.580 dan schultz what what is your uh what are you telling the grassroots on the eve of the convention
00:49:57.440 is now we got 50 days to go to this monumental midterm well we can't let up on the gas we got
00:50:04.300 to go full force you know we got to run through the tape we have to make sure that we keep control
00:50:09.960 in order to get things passed in the next two years.
00:50:13.300 If we lose control of the House and we let the Democrats have control,
00:50:17.140 you know this is going to be exactly like it was in 2018 to 2020.
00:50:20.640 So you can't let up.
00:50:22.000 You've got to stay focused.
00:50:22.820 We've got to make sure that we get grassroots candidates elected this November.
00:50:27.940 So do not let up.
00:50:29.240 Do not think someone else is going to come in and save you and fight this fight for you.
00:50:32.980 You have to stay involved.
00:50:37.120 Mo, great words.
00:50:38.340 And, of course, in Texas, there's no tailoring in Texas.
00:50:40.760 We're going to spend a lot of time in Texas in the run-up to the November 3rd election.
00:50:45.320 Mo Bannon, social media, where do they get you?
00:50:48.400 You don't quite come in as hot now that you're on the board of West Point,
00:50:52.320 but it's still a very informative Twitter account and social media account to go to.
00:50:58.040 Where do you go?
00:51:00.500 You can find me on Instagram, at Real Maureen Bannon.
00:51:03.560 I am not shadow banned on there.
00:51:05.160 On Getter and Twitter, it's Maureen underscore Bannon.
00:51:08.340 i am still a little shadow banned on twitter but i still post on there just not as much and coming
00:51:14.820 in as hot as grace chung but you can still find me on all the social media platforms
00:51:20.740 not nothing comes in as hot as the queen of the trolls grace chung
00:51:25.380 mo bannon uh we're gonna have a huge uh convention real america's voice going all in yes ma'am
00:51:32.740 i was gonna say queen of the hot takes does come in occasionally but not as much as queen of the
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