WarRoom Battleground EP 109: Live From Texas, The Fight For Pro Life Continues; Mom's For Liberty Are Being Censored Why Big Tech
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In this episode, we are joined by Dr. Frank Spivens to discuss the historic abortion referendum victory in Arkansas, and how the pro-life laws they worked hard over recent years to enact, including parents having a say in their minor age daughters abortion decision or clinic regulations, will be struck down as unconstitutional.
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okay welcome we're live here in the war room battleground we put it together here live at
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cpac i want to thank frank speech mike lindell the entire crew logan in memphis for helping us
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get us set up in a quick change father provone it's so good to be with you so honored to have
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you here brother you are in our prayers immensely and intensely fantastic we got to ask you yeah
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kansas was this we had so much momentum after roe v wade talk to us about kansas because as soon as
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that vote started coming in all you heard was the mainstream media saying this is the right this is
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the end of the life movement all the momentums on the uh pro-abortion side tell us what's going on
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that's nothing but wishful thinking on their part you know why these sometimes these referenda fail
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because the other side lies about what the referendum actually says they were pumping money 75 of the
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money on the pro-abortion side of that referendum came unsurprisingly from outside of kansas right
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from pro-abortion groups that wanted to make that exact point except the point is false we have a
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lot of momentum we've got 43 abortion facilities now how can you say you got momentum well we just lost
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two and and the state doesn't come any more conservative than kansas yes we yeah and by the
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way the money's going to come from all over anyway right how do you say we have momentum when two
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thirds it was two thirds of the people in kansas yes voted against it was confusing was it confusing
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the way it was written it was a complete lie told about what it is that they were voting for because
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people were told by the immense amount of ads six or seven million dollars worth that said oh you're
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voting to ban all abortion even in the cases of medical necessity that was nothing had nothing to do
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with what the amendment was the amendment simply said the same thing that actually that the dobbs case said
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let us the people decide because a few years ago the kansas supreme court took out of the hands of
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kansans the right to decide because they said oh it's a constitutional right in the kansas constitution
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a right by the way that nobody had ever discovered before there's no such right there so all this
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referendum was trying to do was to say no there's not a right in the constitution if the people want
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to make abortion legal they can still work through their lawmakers and do so i challenge the other side
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let's have an honest referendum where the people are actually told exactly what it says and what
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it doesn't say i guarantee we win every time why do you how do you guarantee that well because there's
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a math show us that yes the all the polling across america shows that the american people do
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not do not accept have never accepted abortion without limits what happens what people have to
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understand about what's going to happen now in kansas is that now they're instituting abortion without
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limits how many americans how many kansans want a healthy mother in their eighth month of pregnancy
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carrying a healthy baby to be able to abort that baby or every every poll that's been ever taken
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shows we do not accept that and yet when you say it's a constitutional right that's exactly what you
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open the door to now what kansans are going to find out pretty fast is that the pro-life laws they
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worked hard over recent years to enact including parents having a say in their minor age daughters
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abortion decision or clinic regulations for the health and safety of that mother they're going
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to start see these laws taken away or struck down as unconstitutional and they're going to say who
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decided that well unfortunately the kansas supreme court decided that and you failed to stop it with
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this amendment i was not i was actually not not surprised at the outcome of this we've we've been able
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to pass amendments like this in places like west virginia uh in arkansas in alaska even in florida
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but but the the propaganda is the problem the lies that are told but but let me take it a different
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direction yeah a second you guys are about as sophisticated as as media messaging as anybody you
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you for 50 years took incomings took defeats we're able to strategically think through what i have to do
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what i have moved if people had problems with the way it was uh drafted and had any inclination at
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all there's going to be this loss they had didn't you call it propaganda that's just the left getting
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in front of a message and driving it because right now what they're trying to say is we've changed we've
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we've shifted momentum in fact the reason i wanted it when i heard you were here yeah i wanted you here
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because what this we had this massive momentum uh for for for midterms in in uh 2022 that's right
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the entire cpac uh conference yeah is on fire pelosi save america right right and it's about two things
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winning a massive victory in in in the midterms right and then executing on that afterwards we've had
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this momentum the roe v wade decision we felt gave tremendous momentum and in addition you didn't
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really see that much blowback i mean for all the we're gonna burn it down yeah yeah yeah in these
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cities yeah they were kind of the usual suspects with the green hair protesting and that's their
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right but you didn't see that really as a as a mass kind of um you know upheaval of the american
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people now the polling they kept saying oh no this is going to be the secret weapon for the democrats
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to thwart the uh the red tsunami and now you've had kansas and they've done an excellent job of taking
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what was a kind of a weird a situation and turning into a massive victory to say we have momentum
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and now we need the republicans and the in the maga guys to abandon the life movement or therefore
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they're not going to win where do you think because you guys are i know the the father is very humble
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but this is one of the most sophisticated guys around you had to with no resources to defeat what
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you defeated it's just is legendary how do you then convince people no they don't really have the
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the momentum and we really are going to go through these midterms and win and one of the ways we win
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is the life uh the life topic yeah the life issue is a winning issue for us well steve it comes down to
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how as you know how do you frame the argument whether it's conversation between individuals
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or any candidates campaign in this midterm the choice is not between you know every abortion
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is banned versus the situation we have now the choice is between the situation we have now where
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it's a mixed mixed bag and unlimited abortion until birth because that's the democrat platform
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that's the democrat agenda if we can frame the question that way we always win this kansas thing
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wasn't framed the right way and but you had the top when you say not frame the right way yeah you
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have a significant right to life movement in kansas yeah and kansas is one of the most conservative
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states in the union although it has a robust democratic party they've had a lot sebelius and some
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really pro-choice governors they've had yeah how did it how did that the the right people not get
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involved early on and say we got to get this amendment right or knowing it was not right start putting
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out the warnings that hey because people quite frankly walked in there and i was talking to
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people in kansas every day including people in the right movement said hey we have massive turnout
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and the reason we have massive turnout is support for the life movement next thing you know the first
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numbers that come up are two-thirds one-third against us yeah i think it was the avalanche of these
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ads that came in again from out-of-state money out-of-state money saying oh you know you're not going to
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have right or the right to contraception anymore you're if your life is in danger from your
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pregnancy you're not going to be able to be treated these are the things they were literally
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saying you know rape and incest and none of that was what the amendment was about so what we have
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to be careful of is two things a again the framing of the message and b just the this massive i mean
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the others if the other side weren't experts in lying we wouldn't have had roe in the first place
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right it was all based on lies and that's where we have to be vigilant we're going to have
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across the board on this issue this info we see it nationally with the response to dobbs right they're
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saying oh ectopic pregnancies miscarriages life-threatening emergencies in pregnancy
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are not going to be able to be treated it's all nonsense it's all lie that's not true at all that's
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so that's a lie in other words that was there to confuse people yeah exactly that's what they did
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successfully in kansas it's not that they can't succeed in doing that again but i don't think on on
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the national scale when you look at overall the momentum uh that they're going to be able to
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overcome what we've got we're at cpac right now i want to i want to talk about the momentum going
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up to to the midterms where do you see it coming from is the is the life movement engaged at every
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level at state legislatures because we know this is going back to the states but they are also engaged
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at the congressional level in other words you see the support and the enthusiasm and the intensity
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being on our side of the football and the life movement for this or do you think that they're
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going to really use this kansas situation to motivate the choice movement they're going to
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try to make kansas emblematic of what's happening in the rest of the country going to try i don't think
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they can get away with that because we do have you know right now i mean 43 abortion mills have been
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closed in 11 states tell us why well because as soon as the row fell the people got to work on the
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state level some of the laws kicked in automatically as you know because they were trigger laws
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but in a lot of other cases you know attorneys general went to the courts and say okay you got
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to lift this injunction against this pro-life law because row has fallen and they were ready to do
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that they were ready to do that and they did it in other states laws are being passed new laws are
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being passed we've got momentum in florida the governor's going to call as i understand uh a special
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session you're hearing ronda santis we'll call a special i think that's what i'm hearing okay we'll
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see in november to do what to to to to advance further laws for pro-life in florida of course he had
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just signed the one that that made it like mississippi 15 weeks that's been challenged in
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court but we're winning on that uh so so we're going to i think steve what's going to happen is
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in these next few months before the general we are going to see the momentum keep playing out as
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states more and more not only states passing pro-life laws reasonable laws that most americans agree with
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but we're going to see more and more victories in the courts because remember one of the things
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dobbs did was it took away one of the key arguments that's used in the lower courts to strike down
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pro-life laws which is row and casey you have a right to abortion the judges can't make those
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arguments anymore even if they want to they're bound by what's called vertical precedent they've
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got to apply dobbs now to the cases that come before them i think the momentum is going to speak
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for itself as we go into the general election and we've also had over recent election cycles and analysis
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of that portion of the electorate with various worthland polls and and other companies show
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those portion portion of the electorate that thinks abortion is a key issue in voting
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they vote pro-life two to one now will that change a little bit this time i think it will i think
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abortion is higher now on when you ask voters what issues are of more importance i think crime
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inflation immigration are still at the top does it does it concern you that also on the pro-choice
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side that that number yes i think it's more this time than usual because of what's happened uh but
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i don't think it brings them over the over the victory line um before i let you go and get janet
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marino in here in a second before i let you go well you talk about the momentum and all the positive
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stuff gavin newsom yes has has and he's going to stand astride of the democratic party on the evening
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of november 8th yeah they're going to get shattered they're going to lose the house i believe
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strongly they'll lose the senate they'll believe state legislatures they're going to lose school
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boards they're going to be shattered they're going to have one shining spot yeah that's going to be
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california it's going to be gavin newsom and gavin newsom is going to win by 20 points in his governor's
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race he's going to have 250 million dollars in the bank and he's sitting there saying i am making
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california a sanctuary state right for abortions right he is the opposition and he's going to be one of
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the if he's not the nominee for the democrats in 2024 he's at least going to be one of the guys that
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fights out to the end yeah is gavin newsom setting himself up with a series of policies
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to make california the example for the pro choice groups to rally around and does that concern you
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well i think that's what he's doing and what he's trying to do and i agree with your analysis i was out
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speaking in california uh several times actually since dobbs came down and what i told the people out
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there was whether california becomes a sanctuary for abortion or not is not up to gavin newsom i said
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to the people it's up to you yes because this is where now people have to rise up and say wait a
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minute do you think california is a pro-life state you know not overall because you've got these these
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these these population centers but that's the problem you got the big population centers la and
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san francisco and so forth but you subtract that i mean all up and down the state there's such strong
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pro-life uh people and movements and groups it's really strong so what i said to them is stay strong
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and don't let the other side take this from you by default don't let them you know the the the old
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saying the the battle is in the mind of the enemy right so if you make if you make the pro-life
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people of california perpetually think that they are they can't win they're in the minority the state
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is solidly blue no blue state can it is blue by dogma you know it can change and i think the pro-life
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people in california now because of dobbs are more motivated than ever to say we're standing up and
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we're going to set the policy in this state because it's no longer a constitutional right who knows it's
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going to take perseverance it's not going to be something overnight uh but we got to keep encouraging
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the troops what happens if gavin newsom's successful and turns california california is
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what 40 million people yeah it's the seventh biggest economy in the world it's got the dynamism
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of silicon valley in hollywood yeah i mean these are two power centers particularly in a post-industrial
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world world newsom's a very cunning politician oh yeah he understands what's he what he's doing
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if he is able to turn it into a sanctuary for abortions what what is the pro-life where does that put
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us overall and what should be the response for the national not just the california but the national
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pro-life movement and trying to thwart because he's going to present 2024 as the california model
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versus versus the trump's maga yeah he's going to say trump's maga is the handmaid's tale it's a
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bunch of reactionaries right and and and i'm offering you a the sunlit uplands of a of a progressive uh
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wonderland and and i'm the model what what is the pro-life movement that's done such a great job
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in getting us to the overturning of roe v wade and the dobbs decision what's the response he thinks
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he's assuming that people in other states who can't get an abortion in their own state
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are going to be willing to travel to california to get one first of all i would challenge that
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presumption we have you don't buy that not not that not as a as glibly as a given as glibly as
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people just assume right because we have found that we're working with these women every day who
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attempted to have abortions or who have had them we have found it's not a kind of a decision that has
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the firmness of someone who's willing to crawl over broken glass to get it women getting abortions
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are very ambivalent about it sometimes it only takes two elderly women praying the rosary in front
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of the abortion clinic for them to take that as a sign from god that they shouldn't do it and they
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turn around so that the the presumption is wrong first of all that they're necessarily going to
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come secondly those who would come we've still got the strongest ever pregnancy center movement in
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that we've ever had in all 50 states and so what we're going to do our response like they're saying
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if he does the pregnancy centers that the left says that you're misleading women you're misleading
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right how are the by the way what what services when someone comes in and says hey look i'm open
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to having the child yeah but i can't afford it i i i'm not married what are the potential services or
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what potentially is the cover what what can people do to make sure that there there is something there
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that they can grab onto to actually have the child and understand they're not going to be in dire
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poverty the rest of their life right if they don't have the economic resources there are are people ready
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to give them job training find them jobs help them pursue their education while having the baby
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if that's what they choose to do uh legal advice that fully developed if they go to a fully and if
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they go to a pregnancy center this is the type of thing that you can help people with pregnancycenters.org
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is the main website yes you put in the zip code you'll find the pregnancy center.org pregnancy centers
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yes um yeah it's that developed i mean parenting training help to make an adoption plan whatever it is
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that they need a place to stay if they don't have a place to stay but then you got a lot of people who
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do have the financial means to have that child they're just filled with fear and and and a friendly
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professional person to walk them through those fears the unknown fear of the unknown fear of the unknown
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fear of hey i didn't plan on having this child what do i do now i can't do it and people will walk
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alongside them and say yes you can talk to me about uh about what you were just saying about people it's
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not a firm decision and people aren't going to fly or get on a bus and go 900 miles talk to us
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about that decision so you don't buy the glibness that oh i'll make it a sanctuary state and everything
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they're gonna they're gonna flee here yeah that's the pitch to me he's making right that's the pitch
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he's making because this is what a lot of these folks actually think oh you know she's so determined
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to have an abortion nothing's gonna stop her oh yes it will i've had people have said to me well i
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didn't go through with my abortion you know why because i got lost on the way driving to the abortion
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clinic you know and it's as simple as that professor michael new let me throw that name
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out there he's a pro-life researcher he has taken the state laws that we have had even pre-dobbs
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that simply regulate abortion in various ways you gotta wait 24 hours right after you get some
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information about the procedure those laws are saving lives saving lives not in the sense that
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they're going to a different state where they don't have that law saving lives in the sense that
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they change their mind and they have the baby just simply because they had to wait 24 hours
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so when you have a law that is actually prohibiting abortion we we know from from the women we work
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with they don't want to be lawbreakers they they they really don't they want to do what's right and
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you know the law is a great teacher and 50 years of saying oh it's legal it's legal many people think
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it's okay uh with this changing now no that it's not they they're very ambivalent and a lot of them
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are going to choose life because of these laws talk to me why why are you here at cpac this is the
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fire pelosi save america this is the push this is the push to and by the way she's a devout catholic
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right she's a devout catholic the the pope told us that when he went to the vatican
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the san francisco cardinal said not on my watch yeah so why are you here at cpac in august
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first of all for my own personal exhilaration inspiration connecting with people like you and
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with all our our colleagues in this great fight uh secondly i i'm i'm i'm able to share some
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thoughts i'm going to be given one of the talks tomorrow what time what time is your talk tomorrow
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my talk tomorrow is at 3 20 in the afternoon is it on a panel it's on a panel and talk to me about
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the panel it's going to be about faith and versus fascism it's going to be about the dobbs case but
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it's also going to be about how is it that uh we got to the point in this country where we're killing
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these babies where we can't say a man is a man or a woman is a woman uh by the way i think the answer
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to that is for 50 years we've been saying a baby's not a baby that's when we broke from reality uh
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but but i'm going to talk about what is the restoration of faith like in addressing all these
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problems so it's going to be a fascinating what is it give us a give us a give us a heads up
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the church says if you forget the creator the creature becomes unintelligible and and and and
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that's the bottom line we've lost the sense of what human life is who the human person is because
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we don't know who god is anymore and and for people either who either don't believe that he exists or
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believe that yeah he's a god i make him in my own image that's where you end up with all this evil
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and and no longer can you even have uh these are bigger cultural issues yeah how do we people are
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talking about how we you know they're they're all freaked out uh on msnbc the new york times about what
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they say is the rise of christian nationalism yeah i think when we look at things we we see
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the the basis of the judeo-christian west receding from the public square yes you can't talk about
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any of these values or concepts anymore or automatic this is the fascism part how how do you think
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that we get more of that conversation into the public square right now because isn't that what we're
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missing it is what we're missing you know what i think the answer ultimately is we need martyrs
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that's how the faith grew at the beginning for people to do things that make the rest of the
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people turn their heads and not just say oh so and so believes so did so well everybody believes
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something people have believed things for centuries we've got to do things that make people turn their
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heads and steve i'm not saying this just because we're here on the show together right now but you're
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an example of this yourself people make people turn their heads and say why on earth is that person
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doing that they must be motivated by you know this is how bernard nathanson came to faith yes the
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architect of the abortion movement he saw people rescuing in front of these abortion clinics he said
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there's something here i don't understand there's a force that's driving these people to give themselves
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for these babies well they got to see that force in us driving ourselves to give ourselves for the
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babies for freedom for america for our children for education for the security for all of it you're a
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hero how do people get to you on social media by the way he has not taken one day off after roe
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v way this guy works every day of the week you're a man of faith and a man of god how do people get
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to you fr frank pavone on all the major platforms starting with truth social and getter and all the
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rest fr frank pavone on social media father pavone you're saying right now we're still pushing forward
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with the uh with the life movement and uh and we're going to have big victories in the midterms don't
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believe what the mainstream media says that's right when they say that we've lost our mojo after kansas hey
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listen if we believe that now it's the same message they've been giving us for five decades
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and they've been wrong all along well i tell you they told us for five decades and father pavone
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and these other great warriors did prove them wrong okay we're gonna take a short commercial
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break janet marina is going to join us next we've got the monster liberty we've got a pack show
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in the second half father always an honor always an honor keep us in your prayers absolutely and keep
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our enemies in your prayers too that's right father frank pavone okay short commercial break we're
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okay we're back we're live at cpac this is war room battleground very honored to have janet morano
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janet is a wingman for father provone the book is everything you need to know about abortion
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for teens look here's the reason i want to have you on here the shock of this kansas debacle right
00:26:20.880
as it seems like it's giving momentum to the left right and they're saying that in the midterms that
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this is going to be this is going to be the driving force that's going to thwart the maga movement for
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the takeover of the house and the senate one of the things they're criticizing they're saying hey these
00:26:35.840
people are all great and saying roe v wade and no abortions but there's nothing there for the
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underprivileged woman there's nobody there's nothing there for the woman that's in fear
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and particularly what they're focused on is that all these radicals want to have teenagers
00:26:50.880
have all these babies now this book everything you need to know about is actually for teens
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how do you respond to that how do you respond now that they're making one of the number one
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political issues in the country is this whole issue about the life movement or the abortion
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movement uh for teenagers well first off for teenagers planned parenthood and the abortion
00:27:09.680
industry targets them they're in our high schools targeted what do you mean targeted
00:27:13.760
well because they're in the curriculum a lot of high schools allow them to come into a high school
00:27:18.160
and make planned parenthood presentations in your public high schools i mean as part as they say sex
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education yes they actually they bring them in under sex education so what do they do what do they do
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they're offering free condoms they're offering birth control and all that i mean it's terrible that's
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their idea of sex education is that it's okay for teenagers to continue to have sex but we're going
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to give you all the birth control and things you need so you can have all the free sex you want
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in my book i do a full chapter this eve on chastity but i show the kids all this you know friends with
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benefits sleeping with people the the amount of stds in our country has gone skyrocketed and those are
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facts by the cdc not janet morana making it up cdc facts so i show the kids you know you can have all
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this free love and free sex when you're in high school and college but then ladies later on you get married
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you want to have kids you might have ruined your fertility because of that because of these
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diseases a pelvic inflammatory disease and so on in the book what do you talk about as i asked father
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bravone this services if you're a teenager you're pregnant what are the services what what is offered
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so that you're not facing this alone that because they're making the argument you guys are all about
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pro-life but then you just dump these people uh you just kick them to the curb absolutely not
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that's not true not not true see if there's over 2800 pregnancy help centers all over this country
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you can go to a simple website i challenge everyone go to pregnancycenters.org put in your
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zip code pregnancycenters.org father bravone talked about this.org you see the zip code you see where the
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nearest pregnancy help center is and this is real help not just diapers and formula we're talking about
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medical help a place to stay if that girl needs it education and job opportunities they're not just
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here to have her birth the baby they're here beyond and most of these centers they keep them
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as clients till the baby's at least two years old at least so that they help the mother through
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the whole transition exactly exactly they're here for them for the whole thing and if the the girl
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wants to make an adoption plan they're here for them too okay make people feel better because right
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now the left every new site every every tv every cable tv on the left is saying that kansas
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innervated uh the the left that they're now that the momentum is now on their side as far as the
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midterm elections go on the whole issue of life you're not buying that i'm not buying it one bit because
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first of all what happened in kansas was very tricky because first of all the other side lied
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they didn't use scare tactics but they always lying they always use they were scaring people
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first of all so what's different than what you faced the last 50 years well because right now
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what they're saying is they're scaring where there's no abortions in a state they're saying
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oh women are going to die because a miscarriage is an atopic pregnancy that is such a lie because
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there's medical treatment that has nothing to do with abortion okay it's two different things when
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you have a miscarriage steve that's called a spontaneous abortion when you have an elective
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abortion that's a planned parent abortion i'm deliberately going in with a healthy baby healthy
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mother and killing that child that's the difference right there but they're using these scare tactics
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and the other thing too is the amendments are not being clearly so the people can understand
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they get confused what is my yes but they do they do that on purpose well why is the life movement
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not in kansas why were they not there to say hey this thing's tricky we shouldn't put it forward we
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should we should rewrite this amendment i don't know what i don't know what they did but i could know
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what priest for life did we did a whole blitz email blitz phone call campaign everybody on our list
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in kansas heard from were you surprised by the outcome of two-thirds one-third in a conservative
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state i was surprised but kansas also was the home of george tiller a late-term abortionist in
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wichita and as you know back in the days of the rescue days there was a lot of things happening in
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kansas so i i i'm not giving up i i think given all the momentum that came off roe v wade and we saw
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and one of the things i think shocked people is that there was not that much counter demonstration
00:31:10.720
for everything it was supposed to be a lot of these rallies and all of that didn't really
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play out how do you make people feel comfortable that the life movement is going to be you know
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susan b anthony everybody's going to be completely focused on these midterm elections well i know
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what we're doing and father pamon and i help host meetings of pro-life leaders and we are united and
00:31:28.560
strong right now everyone is focused they're laser focused on the midterm elections and a priest for
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life we have a great website pro-life vote.com go there join our election team we're training doing the
00:31:39.360
ground game and we will take back the house we will increase the senate and then the white house
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in 2024 you guys had uh the greatest fight ever over 50 years you're saying that fight's far from
00:31:52.080
over you're totally dedicated to the midterm elections absolutely you're having meetings
00:31:56.320
along with uh leaders of the movement and everybody's coming together to unite to make
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sure you're knocking on doors walking precincts all the great grassroots stuff that susan b anthony and
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all these other right to life you guys have done what i call the pick and shovel work all the time
00:32:09.760
and you're completely dedicated to do that that's right absolutely and i need people on our team so
00:32:14.240
go to pro-life vote.com and join us what give us that give us that again it's what pro-life vote.com
00:32:20.160
okay and then the book abortionandteens.com where do people get this abortionandteens.com
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that's where they go and it's the website absolutely i tell you i always always love
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having you on i'ma keep you keep that one absolutely give me one last time all right we're
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gonna take uh by the way we're gonna have uh moms for liberty are gonna be here in a second we got
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let's go ahead and do a shift right here okay we're gonna produce in there janet thank you very much
00:32:42.800
love having you on catalina stube joins us thank you so much how you doing moms for liberty now you're
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the hispanic coordinator nationwide for monster liberty that's correct so walk us through right
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right now you have monster liberty's got all the energy right because you're taking over school
00:32:59.360
boards you're fighting for parental rights at the same time you've got the hispanic vote and the
00:33:04.320
hispanic community is coming towards the mago movement so walk us through walk us through what is
00:33:10.400
your pacific uh responsibility and how are you helping pull the hispanic uh community into support us in
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2022 well we are all in this war against indoctrination and gender ideology it's a
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spiritual word that we have to take in hand and we take it very personal because it's it's our children
00:33:30.960
and uh it's that's why we are very passionate about it that's why we are not going to is this a big
00:33:38.800
is this one of the things that maga movement is most attractive to hispanic community because
00:33:44.080
the natural conservatism of hispanics and the family nature and how center the family is for
00:33:50.400
the hispanic community are they outraged for what they're seeing democrats do right now is that why
00:33:54.800
this is such a a big moment well democrats have been taking for granted always the the latino votes
00:34:01.840
and they are wrong because we are awakening every day of this radical left agenda and obviously it's not
00:34:11.840
aligned with our values hispanic has strong values with traditions beautiful tradition uh based on faith
00:34:19.600
family and freedom and obviously we are going to defend that and that's why it's so important the
00:34:25.840
hispanic vote in this coming up elections uh uh to to seek for uh candidates all also only aligned to our
00:34:35.440
values and and and and and talking about the midterms right now the numbers we're seeing are are of a
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historic nature i mean i've been seeing polls when we have the uh the new hispanic language uh el
00:34:47.760
americano that's here they're talking 50 55 maybe 60 percent of the hispanic vote would actually and
00:34:54.480
this is where biden carried it supposedly theoretically by 30 or 40 points do you see as you as you go around
00:35:01.520
do you see the possibility we could get 50 of the hispanic vote this time or maybe even more
00:35:06.560
absolutely and you believe that i'm completely confident that the hispanic vote is switching
00:35:13.040
from democrats to republicans no doubt and uh what's the principal reason for that in your mind what
00:35:19.760
what do you want something it because this has happened so quickly look steve cortez myself have been
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fighting on this for years and in fact when steve came on the campaign in 16
00:35:30.480
one of the biggest things we want to do is get trump out more get maga out more in the hispanic
00:35:35.280
community now it's really coming to fruition what is it about this moment in time that you think's
00:35:41.040
driving that vote i think when they are messing with our children hispanic add mama bears that protect
00:35:47.760
a lot our future it's uh it's our legacy children are very personal to us obviously not only because
00:35:55.760
god give us this right and it's not a politician that give us that right it's not a politician that
00:36:01.680
is going to change policy and tell you what to put or what to inject to your children or what education
00:36:09.440
in morals uh you are going to give to your children they are actually changing this standard of morality
00:36:16.720
and it's not a line uh for us the hispanic community it's at all uh what they have been teaching us our
00:36:24.960
uh abuelos and abuelas and uh and obviously uh we're waking every day even if the media it's manipulating
00:36:34.320
all the information uh through these two main outlets that they have but i think what are the
00:36:41.600
two main outlets i want to talk about that because univision and telemundo univision is univision
00:36:47.120
telemundo both hardcore leftist secular absolutely totally tied to hollywood in the entertainment
00:36:53.920
industry and so you can't you're not getting any concern forget trump and maga you're not getting any
00:36:58.720
conservative message at all they are not providing any information on the abuse they are doing uh on
00:37:05.200
our children they are not uh giving any data they are not giving any facts and we have the facts and
00:37:12.800
and it's actually you see i always get an interview with a conservative outlet and never well yes i have
00:37:23.200
been interviewed but very little it's like the percentage of of the interviews in telemundo univision is
00:37:30.480
is mostly nothing compared to what i do normally in all the outlets so you can see clearly what the
00:37:39.920
what is their agenda and when they what who they are backing up and uh what they are aligned to and uh
00:37:47.920
they don't like when we expose the data and we expose the and hail accountable the the politicians were
00:37:54.320
against the the education univision and telemundo are the tv networks we all know that one of the
00:38:00.320
things that drives politics is am radio and we just heard a couple of weeks ago that source bart i
00:38:06.880
think uh was it a manby manby which is the probably the classic am radio station in south florida for
00:38:14.720
the cuban community for years he got rid of all the anchors a lot of those went over to el americano
00:38:19.200
which is on sirius xm they're launching here at cpac if that's cut if that's closed to you
00:38:26.480
how can we be talking about 50 i mean i've been in the rio grande valley i've been all over the
00:38:30.720
country i see the enthusiasm of hispanics that don't want any more of the democratic party but if
00:38:35.840
you if they have uh you know telemundo and univision and now he's buying up the biggest of the am radio
00:38:42.960
stations how do you compete with how's the word getting out to the hispanic community well they are
00:38:47.760
trying to uh shut us down and shut down all the outlets that normally are very conservative because
00:38:57.840
they they were founded by people who know by first hand communism they are from cuba they are some of
00:39:04.960
them from venezuela but they are not going to uh shut us because we await and we are always going to see
00:39:15.520
the community is awakened yes but if you've awakened and you don't have any outlets or platforms do you
00:39:21.920
do it on social media do you do it by personal contact we have and there is other uh outlets that they
00:39:27.600
are coming up uh for example boss media is coming up americano is coming up that they are here also
00:39:35.040
in cpac there are other outlets that they support hispanic communities and radios and uh they are
00:39:42.720
shooting that but we are going up with another one and latinos are very smart and they can very
00:39:48.960
entrepreneurial thank you thank you so much and they they can do the difference between good and bad
00:39:54.880
because this is what is happening right now it's a mental battle and a spiritual battle you believe
00:40:00.720
this is a spiritual battle totally no doubt absolutely no no doubt you've seen it in your life yes yes and
00:40:06.880
you see the consequences and all these policies is leading only to destruction to suicides to to um to
00:40:17.040
the problems in the and the people i i never see any improvement on the sexual uh behavior of any
00:40:25.440
children with the ad education in all the schools where the state comes in and tries to do that so you
00:40:32.320
you can see the liberty because right now when you go to uh liberal media progressive media they say
00:40:38.960
these are a bunch of crazy moms that are uh they don't want a real they don't want the real teaching
00:40:44.800
of american history domestic terrorists domestic terrorists and the fbi is watching they don't
00:40:49.440
want to see the real teaching of uh of american history that's where they're all down on crt they're
00:40:54.240
also crazy anti-max anti-vaccine and now they're all haters on don't say gay and and desantis is not
00:41:01.440
the problem the problem is uh tiffany justice catalina uh tina and the other moms for liberty they're
00:41:08.320
pushing a radical agenda a radical hate-filled agenda what say you to that so actually see i came
00:41:15.600
from colombia never in my life i never uh thought about coming to united states to defend freedom it
00:41:25.280
never passed through my mind to that in this united states you have to defend freedom and you're gonna be
00:41:32.400
punished by that and so what what what we actually when you were in colombia and said well the united
00:41:39.120
states is freedom you never thought you'd have to come to the united states and fight as hard as
00:41:43.120
you're in colombia and i came here you know in my when i was young long time ago not that long ago
00:41:53.600
you were miss colombia right is that correct yes yes yes not that long ago no not like that but you
00:41:59.040
never envisioned you thought united states was just no i grew up in the middle of two drug cartels
00:42:04.080
it was horrible and i grew up with this fear of any time i can i can lost my my life because uh the
00:42:12.240
the value of life of every human being it's it doesn't have this value in colombia so always i was
00:42:20.240
thinking about going to another country and i saw united states the american dream and i came here legally
00:42:28.320
i came here and became citizen it was one of my my proudest days in my life and um and then now
00:42:36.240
i am defending children defending freedom defending uh uh what is normal what it should be a normal
00:42:44.400
rights given by god why are you here at cpaq cpaq is the annual uh you know coming together of the
00:42:52.400
conservative movement this is the whole theme here is fire nancy pelosi save america this is a real
00:42:58.640
focus on the run-up to the midterm elections that are in 95 days and then the actions are going to
00:43:03.520
take place afterwards why is moms for liberty here to see you great answer great answer because we enjoy
00:43:12.080
being with people like you with patriots with the strong people who they try to shut you down and you
00:43:19.200
keep stronger because you have beautiful values you know what is good and what is right and you
00:43:26.160
are not going to backing up so you are a great example and an inspiration for us and for all the
00:43:32.240
country you guys are so much for me how do people one of the things people want to know is how do they
00:43:36.080
join you you guys are really the leader or one of the leading groups in parental rights right and you're
00:43:41.120
trying to get chapters all over the country you're trying to get people to go and and really a whole
00:43:46.400
stand for elections of school boards how do people get involved what is the easiest way to get into
00:43:51.200
moms for liberty and to find out what you guys are all about exactly we have our website moms for
00:43:56.960
liberty.org here in there is a map you can find all the counties all that uh have all the information
00:44:05.920
about the the education and um you can either join a chapter and if it's not a chapter in your area
00:44:13.600
you can become uh you you you can become a leader in your area so somebody there's not a chapter you
00:44:19.520
can actually help you can start a chapter just as an individual that's correct and it's all the
00:44:24.000
information's on there yes and it's great because we are giving the training to become a leader because
00:44:31.040
you know uh so many people are always in in a corner quietly seeing this war and and afraid and uh
00:44:41.440
it it takes time it takes courage to to speak out so uh i give you this opportunity that we all have
00:44:51.200
uh this opportunity if i can do it came from my background and uh speaking my broken english if i can
00:44:58.880
do it you can do it in your home and you can start in your in your household also uh talking to your
00:45:05.520
children but also unified and empower and educate other parents and together i think we can we can
00:45:13.440
actually uh win the battle against indoctrination if we unite and if people focus on parental rights
00:45:19.760
what is your uh what's your social media do you have a social media handle i am in truth social it's
00:45:24.320
completely new i hopefully you can join me and you can follow me and but what's your handle a true
00:45:30.240
social cata stube c-a-t-a stupid and i am on instagram uh i got banned on twitter so i closed my account
00:45:38.880
long ago you've been banned on twitter why why were they right and actually moms for liberty it was banned
00:45:45.120
too but they they came back i had i had tiffany on the day that you guys were banned exactly getting it
00:45:50.560
getting in more trouble um listen it's great that you're here at uh at cpac i say this all the time
00:45:57.280
uh monster liberty has had probably more impact than any new startup that's only been a you know
00:46:02.160
it's only been a year or two old you're having tremendous impact and i keep saying that the path
00:46:07.600
for victory for us as a movement and as a country and as a people is through those school boards and
00:46:12.720
the parental rights movement is just incredible so thank you thank you we became like a new political party
00:46:18.640
right we're influencing elections you're doing everything you got a new pack everything yeah
00:46:23.600
catalina thank you so much thank you so much so honored thank you be back here at 10 o'clock
00:46:28.320
tomorrow morning we're gonna be live at cpac we're gonna be wall-to-wall all day and then we're gonna
00:46:32.960
do special coverage in the morning on saturday morning for president trump's for president come
00:46:37.200
on back here for president trump's president trump's president trump's president trump's she used to be
00:46:42.160
miss columbia right she was a movie star okay we'll be back here at 10 o'clock tomorrow morning in the
00:46:47.920
war room catalina thank you so much say hi to tiffany oh thank you thank you i'm so sorry