WarRoom Battleground EP 123: Sweeping Victories In Florida; The Biden Regime Are Going After Trump's COVID Task Force
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In this episode, we have breaking news from the early days of the 2020 election, including breaking stories on the Mar-A-Lago raid and Ransack situation, and the primary election in the state of Florida.
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this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
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people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the authoritarians
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get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just like in georgia
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it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations
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this is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is the fight
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all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your host
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stephen k bannon okay welcome it's wednesday uh 24 august year of our lord 2022 lots of breaking
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stories today a big house uh report um about the uh handling of uh covid particularly in the early
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days in 2020 we're going to have joining us in a little while dr stephen hadfield dr peter navarro
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the two prominent personalities in this in this uh study huge article in politico also new lawsuit
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filed in the uh in the mar-a-lago raid and ransack situation this is by jenny beth martin the tea
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party patriots going to have jenny beth on later a bunch of breaking news about china getting ready
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to for a kinetic war in the south china sea and taiwan gordon shang uh bradley farrow join us on
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that but i want to start in state of florida huge uh primary day yesterday and really the i think the
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shining star that came out of there along with the the moms who are taking over the school boards
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is anna polina luna from florida 13 and uh thank you so much for joining us this was i want you to
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tell the audience your journey because man this was a tough one you won it pretty decisively at the
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end but this was uh you had to fight every step of the way walk us through your journey in this
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victory in this very tough primary yesterday well they've dumped millions of dollars against me as
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you know being the trump endorsed candidate you're going to start taking in incoming from all angles
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from the establishment republicans from those that are very left-leaning and then from those that i
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think are paying republicans to run run against the true conservatives so it was a gnarly race it was
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the one of the bloodiest races i think in the state of florida but we came out victoriously and i think
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that that was largely due because of the fact that we door knocked so much we actually hit over 14 000
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doors within my immediate team by the time the election was over and made over 38 000 phone calls so
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i think it's important to note that anyone running for office do not underestimate the power of
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grassroots that's how we beat them you've really got outspent here uh tremendously what what is the
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lesson you take away from that i'm gonna talk about the district in a second what you learned for the
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general and what's on the top of people's minds but for all these aspiring candidates out there that
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are just going to have tough time raising money because they're grassroots or they're populist
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what is the lesson that anna paulina luna learned in this to fight off money coming at you from pax
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money coming you from the establishment in dc kind of some phony candidates that were in there
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they hit you in every different aspect of how they try to defeat somebody or basically get somebody just
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to give up what did you learn yeah you know one of the biggest things you have to understand is that
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if you are going to run for office no one's going to come in on a white horse and save you you have to
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understand that you are literally getting into i mean they call a campaign same thing for war when
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you're talking military lingo it's the same thing you are basically having having to strategize
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work it's it's it's grueling work you're going to be every single day 18 hour days you're doing media
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you're doing fundraising you're taking the very personal tax but you have to just stay focused
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keep pushing through it and frankly i think that really they are afraid of populist candidates that are
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standing up for the people not special interests and i can also tell you that what it's taught me is that
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you know we're in one of the greatest countries in the world but if you don't think that they're
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going to fight dirty in order to corrupt this country and to really take it from us you have
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another thing coming so we will be getting to washington dc we have the general election in
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november but i am in an open republican seat and so we have about 33 000 more republicans than we do
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democrats i can tell you that the democrat that i'm running against is actually an obama pointe so if
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you can donate head to vote apl.com and do that but we will be flipping the seat we will be getting to
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washington dc and i will be joining the freedom caucus once i get there
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talk to me on the 14 000 doors and the 38 000 phone calls what is at the top of the mind
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of not just the mega people the supporters but as you go through the district what's at the top of
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the mind of the of the people in florida uh 13 number one thing is what happened with the fbi raid
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on mar-a-lago there are a lot of people that that's scared i think people are uncomfortable with how
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the doj and the fbi has really i think weaponized against the american people no one ever expected
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that to happen to the president whereas people may have been somewhat distant with president trump
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because they were brainwashed by the whole january 6 nonsense a lot of people now are willing to walk
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over glass for president trump and they want him to rerun again i want him to rerun again and i can also
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tell you that for those that are democrats and independents the economy is destroying people
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especially here in pinellas county and so people want to get back to those america first policies
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talk to me i think somebody said you're going to be an opening act tonight what what is what is the
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event that you're going to be doing tonight so governor de santis is really getting on the campaign
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trail for his election this fall obviously governor uh senator marco rubio will be there as well
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marco rubio has a pretty tough fight with val demings and so the nominees that won last night
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we are going to be there with them and frankly i'm actually really excited because as you know
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steve here in the state of florida we have a massive conservative hispanic demographic and being on
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stage with rubio i think that you know rubio was one of the stars from the tea party movement years ago
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and so i'm hoping to really hit that base and really open it up for our conservative message to help
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stay in the state of florida early voting starts in florida what in in uh in in the first of october
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and my point is you're 40 days away from the start of early voting roughly yes and what we're hearing
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already is that the democrat is going up with his super PAC and his campaign as well they are going
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to start running ads on september 13th which means we are in crunch time i can already tell you steve
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any minority woman that runs her office they say that we are right-wing conspiracy theorists and the
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fact is is that we're not but they try to discredit their reputation and destroy us so we're going to
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basically have to beat them on the ground game but yes early voting starts and we're going to be there
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every step of the way to track in those early voters how can people your campaign starts like
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immediately how do people find out more about you how they found more about the campaign or the so
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inclined how they donate well you can find out more information about my platform at votes apl.com
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that's vote alpha papa lima.com please consider donating 5 10 20 dollars it all goes directly
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to my campaign i'm not ilhan omar so i'm not paying my husband and please again you guys we need all the
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help that we can get this is an open republican seat but they are pouring serious money into my opponent
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and we need to beat them and take back the house this november
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anna polina luna of all the federal offices last night this was by far the most impressive victory
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so thank you very much for joining us congratulations and fight on thank you
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okay that's a real fighter right there and this is a massively important race want everybody to saddle
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up on this one okay let's go we got uh navarro and uh and and uh dr haff in a moment but i want to
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bring in somebody that's just incredibly impressive out in the uh summit and we're gonna start rolling
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out the different summit uh segments of the summit now that we're through the primary
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tuesday uh starting today and then every day for the next three or four weeks the uh moment of truth
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summit one of the most impressive parts of it was to the close of the call to action it was the
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constitutional sheriff so we have sheriff mack former sheriff of graham county arizona sheriff
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mack do me a favor explain to the audience out there what exactly is a constitutional sheriff
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well thanks steve it was a pleasure to meet you uh over the weekend and yeah it's a simple it's a
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very simple uh definition it's a sheriff who puts freedom and liberty first and keeps his oath to
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uphold and defend the constitution if you swear an oath of allegiance as required by article six of
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the u.s constitution for every public official if you swear an oath of allegiance to the constitution
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that's presupposes that one you will keep it and two you will know and understand the constitution
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and enforce it it's the most important thing that any law enforcement officer sheriff deputy chief of
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police can do in fulfilling the necessities of their job so why on these on this yeah on the stage
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at the closing uh you know night where there were um um you know the call to action for the whole two
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two days of this summit about voter fraud voter integrity the machines all that i think you had
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eight ten incredibly impressive law enforcement officers basically what you guys recall constitutional
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sheriffs why were you at a summit why would sheriffs or constitutional sheriffs be at a summit that was
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dealing with voter integrity voter fraud and making sure we had fair and transparent elections
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because the ultimate protector of the county is the county sheriff he's the ultimate executive he's
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the ultimate law enforcement official he answers only to the people and who else in this country is going
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to do official and efficient uh investigations on election fraud and guarantee the vote for the people
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and to protect their rights i i have to take issue a little bit with some people across the country
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this was not a coup against donald trump this was a coup against the american people a lot of different
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offices were affected yes it looks like it that trump was a victim of it just like hundreds of others
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but this the real victim here is the american people having their birthright and their responsibility and
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duty and right to appoint dash elect their own public officials we the people are in charge of this
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government not the the government in charge of us we select how the the government needs our permission
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to exist not vice versa we select the method of tabulating the votes and for anybody cnn and all
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these other acts for the democrat party for them to uh chide us and label us because we question
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which we all have a right to do we question how our votes are being tabulated in this country
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we have a right to know that and when we find out there's problems i guarantee you the only reason
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that they use computers is to guarantee the probability and possibility of cheating
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sheriffs can stop all let me ask you what about the people oh that's that's the question i've got
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what about the situation where you have people you know you got the situation in michigan where people
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say hey look our sheriffs and particularly these counties out west that are so big their hands are full
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just keeping the peace and law and order we have secretaries of state and election officials
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prosecutors all that in in the kind of voting apparatus you know uh you have um uh election
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judges you have the the canvassing board you have all this why get involved people that are up to their
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you know eyeballs anyway and just trying to enforce the laws we have on the book what's your response to
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that uh sheriff mac i wish we didn't have any crime i wish we didn't have any
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voter crimes i wish we didn't have any election crimes um but the the sheriff's the ultimate
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law enforcement officer uh in every county he's the ultimate uh investigator and i'm sorry this has
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to get landed i'm i'm sorry that any crimes uh get the sheriff's busy but you know because we're busy
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doesn't mean we stop doing our job and this is our job uh and so if some citizen comes to us and says
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and makes a complaint as uh sheriff's mailing's office in wisconsin and and sheriff leaf in uh
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michigan and we have sheriff wilmot in yuma arizona who's already been investigating this for several
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months he's already made several arrests he's got 16 more uh search warrants to serve uh this is our job
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this is what we do and and if we if it falls on us to guarantee the uh integrity of the elections
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in this country so be it it's our job sheriff mac how can people find out more about you and how can
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they find out more about this whole concept of constitutional sheriffs is a website to go to
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or do you have social media uh yeah website c-s-p-o-a folks this is the probably the last
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effective and uh peaceful solution we got left for this issue um go to c-s-p-o-a.org become a member of
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our uh citizens posse make the donation and see uh when i was a constitutional sheriff that i actually
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sued the clinton administration and won a case against the clintons at the united states supreme
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court the real miracle there steve is i sued the clintons and lived to tell about it
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sheriff mac look forward to having you back on it's c-s-p-o-a.org i want everybody to go there
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let's get it up on our let's get up on our screen and have everything uh so people can push it out
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sheriff mac thank you so much honor to have you on here thank you steve appreciate you
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okay let's play the cola we got dr peter navarro and uh dr stephen heffitt let's play the cold open
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the battle to keep an american state in it ed writes this quote disabling the non-military side of
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america's state is not a recent republican priority but its record is decidedly mixed on one day on the
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one hand day-to-day u.s administration has become ever more difficult the restrictions placed on federal
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agencies including the irs has grown more onerous over the years people's interface with the u.s
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government can be a painful experience the democratic habit of micro regulation which acts
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like a full employment charter for lawyers also has added to dc's slow movingness that in turn
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makes voters more receptive to anti-government rhetoric financing the u.s government is about to
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get much costlier biden's new law the inflation reduction act will go some way toward leveling
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the playing field between underpaid irs agents and overpaid corporate lawyers but if republicans
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regain control of congress in november it could prove a short-term victory they can simply block
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the irs budget the societal cost of this latest disinformation campaign is hard to count millions
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of americans now think the u.s government is armed dangerous and out to get them is a whopper of a lie
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but lies have a way of taking root and they have ed as you point out in the piece from senior members
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of the united states senate chuck grassley of iowa going on television and saying armed irs agents
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with ar-15s are going to kick in the doors of small business owners it's a conspiracy theory that
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has taken hold at the highest reaches of the party uh it is and of course i mean we've seen it before
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this isn't new you know think of death panels and obamacare think of um the propaganda around the
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estate tax rebranding it as a tax on family owned farms in iowa etc but it's getting considerably worse
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to have mainstream republicans talking not just of abolishing the irs and the fbi for that matter um
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but depicting their agents particularly depicting these government employees as essentially uh shock
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troops for globalists autocrats who are coming to a home near you to take your property to take your
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bible to take your guns whatever it is the scale of rhetoric is getting a lot lot worse and it's hard
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to measure that it it takes root in people's heads um and in terms of the irs you know no government is
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possible without the ability to collect revenues uh if we're going to depict um these relatively
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underpaid and very hard-working people overstretched people as dangerous tools of a of a sort of fascist
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state then um we're disabling government we're watching a concerted republican attempt to disable
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okay welcome that's from this morning we did play that call open part of it and the reason i wanted to
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that is the administrative state in the defense of course the steve cortez and i talked this morning
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uh what brilliant uh what brilliant producer over msnbc got vice vice count uh um marlboro to lecture
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the american people on uh on tax collections a doctor of our dr have felt want to bring you in a big
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report coming out today and a huge story in politico about kind of the administrative state
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and you too as you peter as the the chief uh economic advisor the president for trade and manufacturing
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and then dr have felt going over with his amazing reputation you had to take on the
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administrative state in the in the guise of uh the the medical part of it of tony fauci the fda the
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cdc walk us through what this what this house report says you two guys are kind of named in it what's the
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controversy yeah uh steve i'll do the politics i'll let steven do the this the science here as a tag team
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but just one quick comment on head loose dude the fbi put me in leg irons and solitary confinement so
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don't talk to me you're smack about republicans overstating the bullying at the fbi okay just
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saying steve all right so today this uh house select they always put the word select i don't know why
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select subcommittee on the coronavirus comes out with this report that claims that i quote wrongly
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pressured commissioner steven hahn and the fba to use hydroxychloroquine as a therapeutic in the fight
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against covet okay so the first thing to notice here is that the underlying presumption is that
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hydroxychloroquine doesn't work to treat covet and is dangerous that's kind of the hydroxy hysteria
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that has prevailed to this entire debate okay but the reality is at the time i was a white house
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official serving president trump president trump on march 19th 2020 directed the friggin fbi
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along with alex azar directing the fda to provide this uh therapeutic called hydroxychloroquine used
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for more than 50 years safely as an anti-malarial drug to use it in what's called early treatment
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outpatient use in other words you get a sore throat and start to get a fever you pop hydroxychloroquine
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for seven days the science told us at that point time that that would likely help you mitigate your
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symptoms or even drive the virus away so steven hahn had a direct order from the president and the
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secretary of health and human services to put out a directive that would allow physicians around the
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country to prescribe hydroxychloroquine off-label in early treatment use what did hahn do along with
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his successor janet woodcock and this shadowy guy named rick bright they directly countermanded
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countermanded that order in a way which killed people instead of using hydroxychloroquine in early
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treatment outpatient use they said the only way you could use it is in late stage treatment for
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hospitalized patients close to the time they're almost dead when hydroxychloroquine does not work
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okay the science is clear on this and so they're accusing me of wrongly pressuring the fda when in
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fact the president had told them to do that to save american lives they didn't do it and the result was
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the death of hundreds of thousands of americans needlessly because of what hahn the fda janet
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woodcock rick bright with the help of cnn cheryl stolberg over at the new york times reporters at the
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washington post and all of these hydroxy hysterics who claimed wrongly that this drug didn't work now
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let me turn it over to hatfield now because he'll tell you so right now the latest study we had the
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latest study we have says yeah hang on yeah yeah okay let me go to hatfield hatfield at the time when
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we're talking about this this is in 2020 walk us through the evidence about the medicine and the
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science at the time dr hatfield the studies that were being done
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initially were the late late phase studies because it was a clinical trial and that was the condition
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you had to try it on hospitalized patients doctors were free to prescribe it at the time
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but as an off-label medication and they were prescribing it and it was working i think we've started to see a
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plateau in new york city of the cases this was early outpatient treatment not hospital patients get
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sick they would go see their doctor they'd write a script for hydroxychloroquine they would go home
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they would take it they'd get better in in a few days time they wouldn't progress to this more lethal
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second stage of of the covet 19 disease the fda never ever realized or never acknowledged
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that covet 19 was a two-step process the early process when it's in your upper airway
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and the later process when it's systemic and you start abnormal blood clotting your lungs become infected
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infected and it spins up your immune system to the point where your own body starts to kill you
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okay but here's the question if this was pretty self-evident to you and other people that were
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experts why not just the fda miss it why did they push back on you guys that you essentially if you
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read this report you guys went rogue so so if the if the evidence out there was was so straightforward
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and so our powerful how do we have the situation where these experts at the fda are now coming forward
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to this select uh subcommittee and saying essentially people like hadfield uh navarro and these other guys
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don't really know what they're doing and they were going rogue if you have as soon as uh as soon as
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president trump now hold on hang hang on hang on peter let me have peter right i'm what i want
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i want dr haffler answer okay if you have an effective outpatient treatment that's safe
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it makes it very difficult to get an eua for a vaccine a brand new vaccine a new type of technology
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used in a vaccine uh to have eleven dollars worth of tablets keep you out of the hospital and save
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your life um i don't think this was going to be allowed okay okay okay hang on stop full stop full
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stop hang on full stop you're making the case i just want to make sure i'm clear you're making the
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case that they didn't want to look at these therapeutics and particularly outpatient early
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states therapeutics because they already had in mind to go on some sort of experimental vaccine
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where they would need a eua and if you had these therapeutics out there it'd be very tough to get
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and that you make a i don't call it cynical but you say hey eleven dollars here versus whatever the
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thousands of dollars it is it's the it's the difference in the value proposition for big pharma
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is that the the heart of your argument yes it is both the vaccines and a drug called remdesivir
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they were waiting to give a patient remdesivir when we had that case out in uh seattle i think it was
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the very first acknowledged case there was a team there within hours to administer remdesivir
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they got the guy very early um it was one of the early wuhan strains there's a chance he probably
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would have gotten better by himself but uh they pumped it into him and a couple days later his
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appetite was back and uh he was getting his breath back and it looked like a good idea that was the
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data that we had plus we knew the chinese were very interested in the drug and to the point where
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they were ready to break a patent uh to start manufacturing it themselves okay hang on dr hatfield
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hang on for a second i'm a whole dr hatfield peter navarro will be joined by gordon chang
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and bradley thayer all next second half of the worm
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okay welcome back uh to the battleground we've had to restructure the show a little bit because i
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got to spend some more time with i got gordon chang and bradley there coming up very disturbing news
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bad news out of china but we're going to go back to the original bad news out of china in the ccp
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covid virus we're going to go back to the year 2020 uh steven half of navarro i'm now coming to
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you but i want to tell you the following as revered as dr steven hatfield as remember he was our
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kind of an in-house consultant advisor for the first i think week of war and pandemic he had that book i
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think it was three seconds to midnight or three minutes to midnight just absolute a book that came out
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that's still the definitive book about handling pandemics um when a guy like dr hatfield makes
00:30:52.360
an accusation as uh brutally frank and startling as that that this is about big pharma this is about
00:30:59.000
money and hey it is what it is and whoever died died and that's the way they roll dr navarro is that
00:31:06.020
correct do you believe the same thing dr hatfield thinks you think that these decisions and now this
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kind of i would say essentially house democrats cover up of this in this report is as cynical as
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as steven hatfield says is that they they wanted to they wanted to they knew they couldn't issue an eua
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uh for uh the experimental uh vaccines and they knew that the value proposition to pharma was
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to the 10th power of what it was with the 11 dollar you know uh treatment from hydroxychloroquine
00:31:39.100
dr peter navarro so steven hatfield doc hatfield is a hundred percent right but it's only half of the
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story the other half of the story is simply that as soon as president donald trump suggested that
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hydroxychloroquine might work as a therapeutic the knives became out to undermine the president
00:32:04.500
on that so hydroxy didn't have a chance as soon as trump said yeah this may work they just started
00:32:11.260
doing their use like crazy stuff at cnn new york times oh this kind of thing like that and created
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what i called hydroxy hysteria this is all in the my first memoir the in trump time book chapter seven
00:32:24.520
um and you know the the effect there was the media kept doubling down on all this and now you know
00:32:34.200
we fast forward and i think it's important to ask steven the question we've got pax lovid which is a
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therapeutic produced by pfizer that costs five hundred dollars steve five hundred dollars for a five-day
00:32:48.780
treatment course it causes liver damage it interview inter uh interrupts hiv type medicines it causes
00:32:58.120
allergic reactions hold it let me let me let me let me ask let me ask hadfield it's a crappy
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are you are you and are you saying that hang on hang on stop are you saying dr hadfield that this
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whole mess with the vaccines and with all this and the new treatments coming out that this is all driven
00:33:17.060
by the greed of a big pharma isn't that isn't that too on the nose or do you actually believe that
00:33:22.780
no they've been running this pandemic along with fauci the conflicts of interest here are still
00:33:29.960
uncertain and unexplored but things this great and this perverse uh to the point where the medical
00:33:39.680
literature is affected uh the o'neill study the new england journal of medicine it was a breakthrough
00:33:46.120
51 percent improved mortality with hydroxychloroquine given as the patient comes into casualty this is
00:33:53.560
this is major news and the new england journal wouldn't publish it we have janet woodcock
00:33:59.820
uh on the editorial board uh of of of the new england journal of medicine and she's in charge of the drug
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safety things she's the one that told rick bright no we have to we can only give this to hospitalized
00:34:15.480
patients um the the association with other companies uh this all needs to be explored the vaccine people
00:34:25.940
that had never produced a vaccine in their lives why were they given preferential the moderna why was
00:34:33.100
this given preferential over a known uh drug company was this a was this a conflict with dr fauci
00:34:40.020
we don't know this needs to be investigated but something was very wrong because the efficacy of
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hydroxychloroquine then there were five good papers now there's 351 papers and in a meta analysis
00:34:58.400
of these 351 papers shows up to a 70 percent improvement in 30 different early treatment
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studies and 81 up to an 81 percent lower mortality do do you have we got to bounce and i want to i've got
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to get you guys back for a special but i i don't i haven't gone through the whole house thing but did
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the minority side the republicans are they making that case in in this report or is anybody or do you
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believe in the new congress we need a whole new set of investigations here because this cuts to the
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core of the regulatory capture uh of big pharma and in the administrative state so that's why i played
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the part at the beginning about the administrative state let me start with hatfield and i'll go to peter
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only got a few minutes dr hatfield i don't see your argument being made even by guys that should
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be on your side of the football the minority side of this select committee so are you calling for a
00:35:56.460
new set of investigations a new set of of uh house investigations starting with the new congress over
00:36:03.220
and above what we already know they're going to do with tony fauci and the wuhan lab and the interactions
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with the university of north carolina gain of function the pla the bioweapons program of the ccp all of
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that are you calling for a new set of investigations just on this topic yes the the data is there all
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they have to do look at it stephen hahn said that oh um senator johnson had him in front of the uh
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of a hearing and stephen hahn said dr hahn said well you know it's proof that we need to start looking
00:36:36.800
at the real world and you know see what was going on stephen hahn could have come by the office at any
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time uh every paper ever written we had and in five minutes he could see the efficacy of this drug
00:36:52.120
he never came by yet in september of 2020 he's on a radio program where he says oh yes i i think
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hydroxychloroquine has an effect my god your job is to support the president of the united states and
00:37:07.680
his decisions this was the correct choice early outpatient treatment stops pandemics in hospital
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treatment does not and this was foregone hospital treatments and vaccines
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it's dr uh hatfield how do people how do people get to your website or your social media sir to follow
00:37:31.920
up on this dr steven d-r-s-t-e-b-e-n dr steven hatfield h-a-t-f-i-l-l dot com
00:37:42.540
there's numerous papers on this or you can contact uh pcen media inc and they'll uh they'll get you
00:37:53.940
directed real quick on amazon what's the give the title of the book because people should get this
00:37:59.780
book and as a primer to give us fee for these hearings next year what what's what's the title
00:38:05.040
of the book and where they get on amazon three seconds until midnight and there's a second one that
00:38:11.600
will be coming out shortly called three seconds after midnight um anyway
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okay dr hatfield thank you so much for joining us uh peter navarro uh where do you we got about two
00:38:27.340
minutes where do we go from here where where do you go they they kind of smear you and dr hatfield in
00:38:32.740
this report uh where do you go where do you where do you take this fight well i think the committee did
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did the world a favor here by letting this genie back out of the bottle i mean they they insist that
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i quote wrongly pressured the fda to push forward hydroxychloroquine if if this works we have studies
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now that show unequivocally that hydroxy saves lives and mitigates symptoms so the question is will this
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report reopen this debate and at a minimum come january when the republicans are back in control
00:39:12.220
there's going to be people in there who want to get to the bottom of this along with everything else
00:39:17.220
we got to get to the bottom of with these that they've killed hundreds of thousands of americans
00:39:22.740
are dead today because of do you think fda because of janet woodcock and because of cnn and the new york
00:39:32.020
times in the corporate media which would basically bury that drug even though it's twelve dollars and
00:39:38.920
saves lives full stop dr hatfield said this is a dr hatfield said this is a crime is this going to be
00:39:46.200
a crime scene investigation sir i look in my in trump time book i said it was it murder or at least
00:39:53.460
negligent homicide it is these people acted willfully willfully to prevent a drug they knew
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could likely save lives and they did it for political reasons uh to stop trump and for profit
00:40:10.340
reasons to help big pharma i mean that's it's as disgusting as you get nobody trusts the fda or the
00:40:16.980
fbi and everything in between with this government right now and for good reason i'm just the
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administrative state administrative state okay get get real quickly how they get the book where they
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order the book from uh just go to peter devar.com uh taking back trump's america taking back trump's
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country if we're going to stop these people perfect sir thank you very much look forward to having you
00:40:52.540
back on this topic i want to go down to gordon chang uh gordon thank you sir gordon chang is one of the
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most um serious knowledgeable um observers and analysts regarding the chinese communist party the pla
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he had a very disturbing piece the other day that said the chinese communist party the pla are preparing
00:41:10.580
for a kinetic war and they're preparing for a kinetic war now not the future now gordon chang thank you
00:41:15.700
for joining us uh lay out your evidence of why you think they're going they're getting ready for a
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kinetic war now in the south china sea or in taiwan there's a number of instances so for instance a
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chinese entrepreneur factory owner a couple weeks ago told me that local officials came to him and said
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he's no longer making medical equipment for civilians he's going to be making um items for war and he
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also said that there were a number of other people in his sort of uh you know also factory owners who
00:41:50.260
were told the same thing so it seems like it was systemic we have heard these reports from the financial
00:41:57.580
times and others that this chinese government is trying to sanctions proof itself um so for instance they
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held a meeting um in april um of banks in beijing talking about how to protect the country's foreign
00:42:10.780
reserves from western sanctions the communist party has told its officials to shed their foreign assets
00:42:17.040
so they won't be subject to foreign penalties and on the first of last year um china's national defense
00:42:24.620
law was amended so that uh power was taken away from the civilian state council given to the central
00:42:31.380
military commission of the communist party which runs the military to mobilize civilian society so
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this is not just a question of the chinese military um bulking up this is a question of organizing
00:42:44.340
civilians to get ready for kinetic conflict there's a number of other instances um that are that i report
00:42:52.340
on but essentially what you see is a pattern of the communist party getting ready to go to war
00:42:58.620
gordon they've had this situation now in the in the financial industry we're going to get there on
00:43:04.620
here in a second but the the collapse of the real estate market you see tanks outside of the china
00:43:09.800
of the bank of china branch and hanan uh all types of financial turmoil you know real estate prices
00:43:14.760
dropping 20 percent is a is is this their natural reaction of drive to hyper nationalism or ultra nationalism
00:43:22.140
to offset what looks like an increasing dire financial and economic picture sir
00:43:28.440
i think so steve one thing we know for sure um while the chinese economy internally is falling apart
00:43:37.600
um you know the property sector just to give you one example um both sales and prices fell about 40
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in the first half of this year compared to the comparable period last year that's a failure of the
00:43:50.540
core of the chinese economy because property represents somewhere between 25 to 30 percent of
00:43:56.160
gross domestic product which is very high by um international standards um we see the bank runs that
00:44:02.480
you referred to the mortgage boycotts all sorts of signs of problems the only thing that's going right
00:44:08.380
for the chinese communist party right now with the economy is export sales but apart from that
00:44:13.760
everything else is failing and while all of this is going on um you have a much more belligerent chinese
00:44:20.940
uh diplomats um chinese posture towards neighbors like india philippines japan taiwan so you put the
00:44:28.880
two together and the conclusion is i think apparent that uh what they're trying to do is distract chinese
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people away from obvious policy failures at home by creating um problems abroad
00:44:41.420
is the 20th party congress where she is supposed to be an anointed emperor for life is that driving
00:44:50.460
things does he want to do this beforehand do you think he'll wait till after that or in your mind
00:44:54.600
may he even delay it i think he has to first of all on the 20th national congress um if tradition
00:45:01.480
holds and that's a big if it will be in october or november of this year if xi jinping is really
00:45:07.720
powerful he could very well just postpone the 20th national congress for a long time which is what his
00:45:14.140
hero mao zedong used to do with national congresses um but what we're seeing i think is intense political
00:45:20.840
infighting right now um which means that china is probably not going to start a major military adventure
00:45:26.720
um largely because um to do this steve um xi jinping for instance if he wanted to invade taiwan
00:45:33.540
he would have to give some general or admiral almost complete control over the chinese military
00:45:39.200
which would make that flag officer the most powerful figure in china and at a time right right now where
00:45:46.500
he wants to be get that third term as general secretary he's not going to divest himself of authority
00:45:52.780
in power so i don't think anything's going to happen in the near future but if he gets that third
00:45:58.500
term as general secretary then yeah all bets are off because then all sorts of things can happen and
00:46:05.100
he's got a window of opportunity in which to act which means that if we can get over the next two three
00:46:10.120
years we'll be okay but this next two three years i think is a time of heightened danger
00:46:15.780
gordon how can people follow you and your analysis because it's uh it's the best out there how do
00:46:22.940
people stay in touch with you um i tweet um developments at at gordon g chang g-o-r-d-o-n-g-c-h-a-n-g
00:46:32.340
i archive all my articles for free at my website www.g-o-r-d-o-n-c-h-a-n-g.com
00:46:41.660
gordon chang thank you very much honored to have you on here sir
00:46:46.400
thank you so much steve i'm honored to be on your show
00:46:50.520
thank you brother appreciate it uh we start today with the financial times we end with the
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financial times a brilliant piece in american greatness by dr bradley thayer another amazing
00:47:01.700
analyst of all things china walk us through the financial times was it the damascene moment
00:47:06.460
their road to damascus at the at the financial times dr thayer hi steve great to be with you
00:47:12.980
again yeah the piece is entitled the financial times and the road to damascus uh and so the thrust
00:47:20.080
of the argument is the financial times had an editorial recently where they made the argument
00:47:25.780
that china's a threat now uh and that western corporations need to prepare uh for the fact
00:47:33.140
that china is a threat uh in in light of measures that they might have to take to leave china or
00:47:38.400
provide other sources of uh supply or markets uh what i do in the piece is argue uh that um it does seem
00:47:47.040
uh perhaps that uh the financial community of which the financial times of course is uh of a uh a centerpiece
00:47:55.420
really uh of it uh is maybe waking up uh to the china threat however it's a bit quixotic isn't it steve
00:48:02.820
it's a bit um rather uh to our chagrin those who created the monster are now uh recognizing that
00:48:10.360
in fact they've made a monster right if they hadn't invested in china uh if they hadn't taken the actions
00:48:17.300
that they did over decades uh they would not have kept the chinese communist party in power
00:48:22.480
uh they would not have given china the wealth to devote to its uh war against the united states and
00:48:29.300
against the rest of the world nonetheless they did uh so they generated uh this uh monster we all have
00:48:36.660
to deal with the consequences of that uh so um it's about time to call big finance to account
00:48:44.120
now uh you just of course peter was making the great argument about the cost of covid well what are
00:48:50.260
what's the cost of this big financial decision to invest in in china year after year after year
00:48:56.980
well it's given us the greatest threat we've ever faced uh in our history and the greatest threat
00:49:03.360
that the west has ever faced but here's here's here's what i want to have we'll have you back on
00:49:09.460
tomorrow because here's why i wanted to have gordon on first and peter before you
00:49:12.820
we're now talking a guy like gordon chang's now talking that the in the next two or three years
00:49:17.480
we're looking at a kinetic war between two great powers and they're gearing up for it
00:49:21.160
the solution to this is not to have a kinetic war right it's the old uh unrestricted warfare we have
00:49:27.860
economic war the solution is in the financial times's audience they created the frankenstein
00:49:34.500
monster the cutting off of capital and technology is what destroys the frankenstein monster you don't
00:49:40.560
have to prepare for a kinetic war dr thayer how do people get to you we have to develop this more
00:49:45.500
because it's all falling together now and when the financial times of london sits and goes wow
00:49:50.860
this really is a threat you're absolutely correct it's a threat you did create but it's also a threat
00:49:57.440
that capital markets and the and the global corporations can defang before it's too late
00:50:02.800
dr thayer how do people get to you what's your easiest uh if they're of a mind to which we're
00:50:07.740
going to make sure we're going to set we're going to set their minds right dr thayer that's the
00:50:11.580
purpose of the war room what's your what's your uh what's your social media sir uh well center for
00:50:17.620
security policy dot org uh all my writings are there and then of course uh uh at getter under
00:50:24.640
bradley thayer at getter and then at truth social under bradley thayer truth truth social thank you
00:50:30.520
steve thanks very much but by the way dr thayer is always up on epoch times you get all stuff up on
00:50:36.280
getter it's just absolutely amazing dr bradley thayer thank you so much glad you're over at the
00:50:40.780
center for security policy frank gaffney the team committee on the present danger okay tomorrow
00:50:44.960
morning at 10 a.m we're going to start it again it's going we're going to be all over the finance
00:50:50.500
the economics the geopolitics of it all see you tomorrow morning in the war room 10 a.m