Bannon's War Room - September 22, 2022


WarRoom Battleground EP 143: Breaking Down The Data That The Establishment Fears


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50 minutes

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192.7414

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9,777

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10

Misogynist Sentences

9

Hate Speech Sentences

2


Summary

Steph and Steve are joined by Alex De Grassi, the Executive Director of Team Elise, the Republican National Committee's (RNC) political operation, to discuss the incredible counterpunch against the Democrats in the midterms.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
00:00:15.220 people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the
00:00:22.220 authoritarians get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just
00:00:28.140 like in georgia it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and
00:00:32.880 misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is
00:00:37.160 the fight all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground
00:00:43.460 here's your host stephen k bannon okay with 47 days ago uh you're in the war room battleground
00:00:52.060 it's thursday 22 september in the year of our lord 2022 a very special hour only two guests
00:00:59.320 two of the smartest uh guys i know in this business one is alex degrassi he is the executive director
00:01:05.780 of team elise that is a basically elise stefanik's uh political operation uh also he works very closely
00:01:12.800 obviously the republican conference nrcc all of that one of the smartest analytical guys i know and
00:01:18.300 a young strategist that really gets and of course richard barris the people's pundit uh does a lot
00:01:25.100 of work now for cd media also big data his his polling operation remember richard was with us on
00:01:31.120 election night of 3 november in the year of our 2022 and basically called exactly what was going to
00:01:36.100 happen so we got the great richard barris i want to turn it over to alex this is really alex's first
00:01:40.720 time in the war room alex i'm gonna turn it over to you you've done a lot of analytical work
00:01:44.740 here and and and i want you to go through the analytics but also the strategy of what happened
00:01:50.300 because we can feel a tectonic plate shift happening but this just didn't happen this was
00:01:55.140 a lot of smart people uh really focusing on what was important for citizens of the united states and
00:02:01.020 really uh messaging to voters so alex why don't you take it i know you got a number of charts and
00:02:05.540 analysis uh so just uh go with it sir thank you steve it's such an honor to be here as a member of the
00:02:11.260 posse obviously in the trenches here in republican leadership i think what we have begun the great
00:02:17.080 counter-offensive of our time politically we started on labor day people are kind of looking
00:02:21.820 at what's happening um democrats spent july and august spending a lot of money on tv attacking our
00:02:29.420 candidates they really haven't had any hits stick we've actually kept a lot of our fire to labor day
00:02:35.040 and as you've seen on your tvs hopefully if you're in one of the 74 targeted battleground seats that
00:02:40.160 we're hitting very hard we are now outspending democrats and hammering them on the issues that
00:02:45.420 are most important to the voters inflation security crime the border economics in general actually also
00:02:52.740 unity and protecting your rights and we're seeing the numbers move very quickly i can exclusively say
00:02:59.680 we've seen in our numbers across the board that we've shifted democrats uh unfavorables up over 12
00:03:05.760 in two weeks that's a average across all targeted democrat candidates but our candidates are holding
00:03:11.960 their ground this is just the beginning especially as votes begin to get cast in the next couple weeks
00:03:17.080 military ballots go out in about a couple days uh for certain areas and um it's really going to heat
00:03:23.120 up here across the board we have to stay focused the signal not the noise as everyone knows people
00:03:28.100 need to dig deep now we have the opportunity to have the biggest blowout certainly in my lifetime and
00:03:34.860 possibly yours as well steve and we feel great about it we are very confident that we have the
00:03:40.020 candidates for funding and the message hang on i mean i i i want to just go back for a second and
00:03:46.820 make sure that the audience understands nomenclature and critical path and process here it's so important
00:03:51.280 uh elections are always about issue sets and about uh candidates and uh in in in campaigns
00:03:59.380 uh in messaging around that um you i want to go back to july and august and i want to be very specific
00:04:06.240 because there's polling coming out of vegas today about you know the the democrats made a bet on
00:04:10.980 uh i think white uh college educated women whereas the republicans have made a bet on working class
00:04:17.680 hispanics i want to go back to july and august particularly the democrats came in hard probably
00:04:23.360 figuring they had to but their issue set was very different did walk us through that and you're saying
00:04:28.240 they put tons of money in but really didn't drive it just a glancing blow they didn't they didn't have
00:04:33.540 a knockout punch was it because of the issue set or because of where they spent the money the districts
00:04:39.420 they spent etc walk us through that for a second before we talk about the great counterpunch that
00:04:43.660 we're seeing here post labor day yes and certainly they focused obviously on january 6th abortion as
00:04:50.340 that's come into play we're just not seeing that as a massive driver i send a graphic over to you guys
00:04:56.920 if you look at nbc poll this lead was totally buried they didn't even talk about it in the media
00:05:01.920 they asked candidates you know who are you looking for the candidate who are you looking to support the
00:05:07.320 candidate that's going to take on the cost of living we jumped to the second one um so i apologize
00:05:12.980 but that when we jumped yep we jumped on the cost of living are you looking to support the cost of
00:05:17.340 living candidate are you looking to support the abortion candidate when you really look into the
00:05:20.840 numbers the abortion candidate is democrat based it's faith and we have um not only hispanic voters
00:05:27.880 but we feel actually very good about um you know white working class college educated as well
00:05:32.560 they're feeling the punch this economic crisis across the country they're not getting through
00:05:38.580 they're not getting through the voters people are not worried about january 6th they're not worried
00:05:43.140 about these baseless smears on president trump the illegitimate witch hunt it's just not going to work
00:05:48.540 and we have the issue set because most importantly on midterm steve as you mentioned you know
00:05:54.300 presidentials you know the presidential candidates are driving our voters you've got higher turnout but
00:05:59.400 in the midterm it's really about issues that in 2018 the issues were health care they were not
00:06:04.700 great issues for us and that's really what really kind of did us in that cycle this time we have never
00:06:10.900 seen in our lifetime the issue set more in our favor and that's why you're seeing ad after ad
00:06:17.080 prosecuting biden's crisis the inflation crisis the crime crisis the border security crisis and
00:06:22.840 we're blowing them out by 20 points on those across the board what what i like about the ads is that
00:06:28.900 these are all created crises these are things that just didn't i mean america wasn't like that before
00:06:33.560 these guys took over and controlled both houses let me just go back for one second midterms are always
00:06:38.300 here this concert this conversation between a referendum and a choice in the and you've heard heard it
00:06:44.760 non-stop about the roe v wade decision and and signing up new women just from what you saw in
00:06:50.940 july and august and where we stand today did abortion play up more than just their base voters
00:06:55.960 and have they registered all these new voters and particularly young voters does any any any indice
00:07:02.560 or any data at all shows you that the young because they've made some very specific bets on the 90 days
00:07:07.980 leading up to labor day have you seen any uh any positive response from their perspective from that
00:07:15.200 or did it just not play out now certainly they've seen a small coalescing of their own base i think if
00:07:21.880 you look back four months ago biden was cratering even among hard democrats you see a very tight um
00:07:28.820 coalescing out but in terms of the voter that's least likely to go vote steve it's a young voter it's
00:07:35.240 their voters they are attempting to prime that pump they have not been able to move those numbers over
00:07:40.420 the last two months we look at over two three hundred polls at in republican leadership we can
00:07:46.380 run the numbers in a macro sense they're not moving the numbers it's incumbent apart are in the posse to
00:07:52.240 dig deep get 10 people out organize and get out because we will have the momentum to win this they
00:07:58.200 are not moving the numbers among young people they're just not the data does not say that the media is
00:08:03.500 attempting to say that but we have no proof that there's this jump in energy among young voters
00:08:08.580 that they're going to need to see essentially presidential level type of energy that's just not
00:08:13.660 going to happen i just want to make sure one more time this whole because the media has been
00:08:19.520 inundated every day msnbc cnn new york times about this surge of women voters you're saying hey
00:08:26.720 the guy was in free fall that did coalesce some of his some of his core voters people that
00:08:31.840 for that topic is important to them but you're not seeing any expansion into the suburbs or
00:08:37.020 exurbs or anything that they had hoped for to really drive this to offset the debacle they've
00:08:42.280 had on on issues like inflation like the economy so you're you're you're not seeing that we're not
00:08:47.920 seeing that at all in fact they're essentially like spending this money they're kind of wasting it you
00:08:53.580 get so many shots right steve and you've got you know how the dollars are spent people have to be
00:08:58.220 very strategic um they it's a total scam essentially if you look at the point you know
00:09:04.040 the what they've used is the um new york 19 special election um they misinformation you know they give
00:09:11.820 misinformation off about it there was actually essentially six democrat candidates running on
00:09:16.100 the primary um turning out their own voters on the same day we had no republican primaries they
00:09:21.800 were able to juice their turnout situation people say that was a flip it was not a flip that's a
00:09:27.060 see biden one we will win it in november um we're not worried it's all noise in an attempt to suppress
00:09:34.000 our voters suppress swing voters from casting that ballot the data is clear voters are looking for a
00:09:39.820 candidate that's going to put a check and stop joe biden whether that's swing voters hispanics i mean
00:09:45.680 steve i can say today that our own republican polling has us winning hispanic voters across the country
00:09:51.640 by significant margins um and when you look at the polling for the folks watching you see these national
00:09:57.060 polling averages you have to kind of tune that out you got to look at the individual battleground
00:10:01.860 polls when we poll we're looking at the 74 seats we're playing in it's a sort of an average of biden plus
00:10:07.680 six um we're playing into their territory and we are seeing very tight races in areas that biden won
00:10:13.940 by 15 17 points where we are within the margins and closing fast and we do have the opportunity
00:10:19.860 if we continue to get the funding from generous folks that we will be able to play in the most
00:10:25.240 seats that we've ever played in before we're already doing that actually but we will be able to go
00:10:29.060 much deeper as things come online late and that's why we've held our fire i just want yeah the great
00:10:35.140 offense okay i just want to make sure the audience here i'm going to put this in historical
00:10:40.320 perspective when we had the newt gingrich revolution in 94 and you had the tea party revolt in 2010
00:10:47.480 correct me if i'm wrong Alex i think you were we were dealing off bases of 174 175 seats those are
00:10:53.740 historic wins and the tea party was 63 but you're 174 we're at two i think 13 or 211 right depending
00:10:59.840 what these special elections have gone when you're talking 74 seats you're talking unbelievable numbers i
00:11:06.660 think the most the gop conferences ever had i am my math maybe i think it's 252 seats in history so
00:11:12.900 you're talking about a historic win i also want to not bury the lead here and i'm gonna bring
00:11:17.220 embarrassed in a second uh i don't want to bury the lead you're saying right now on the data that you
00:11:24.080 guys are looking at and you're talking about two or three hundred polls in these ballots and you're
00:11:27.480 specifically focused on battleground states and battleground districts uh in 74 and play that we're
00:11:33.900 going to win according to your analysis we're going to win the majority of the hispanic vote
00:11:38.300 as it looks right now in those key districts absolutely we are winning their number one issue
00:11:43.740 is inflation and crime the problem is the democrat issues that not just the democrat party but democrat
00:11:49.480 voters for the most part are dissociated from the rest of the voters so democrat voters their top
00:11:56.060 issue is also inflation but then you go into climate change environment you know this january 6th
00:12:01.040 we're not seeing that with independents we're not seeing that with republican swing voters so you
00:12:05.280 have a situation where the hard left is sort of dissociating speaking to themselves independents
00:12:10.920 hispanics swing voters are falling into our issues that inflation crime border security protecting
00:12:18.080 rights second amendment things like that that really is what could spell a total disaster for the
00:12:24.100 democrats because they're not i i want to go back to the the concept of this issue set is what
00:12:29.580 trump in 16 was all about i just want to go to the issue set again by nbc news border security gop plus
00:12:36.720 36 crime plus 23 immigration plus 19 economy plus 19 cost of living inflation plus 14 unity bringing the
00:12:44.880 country together plus six when you look at theirs you know abortion plus 22 but the other issues are not
00:12:50.860 don't feel like front burner issues like protecting democracy and there's not a huge it's like plus six
00:12:56.240 they're just not of this moment of where people are and where people think the country is particularly
00:13:01.360 the working class is that generally the thinking of nrcc and in in the conference is that this issue
00:13:07.940 set is what's foremost in front of the american people that's exactly right and if you look at the ads
00:13:13.700 inflation it's cost of living it's biden's crisis but most importantly it's about the democrat
00:13:19.200 incumbents that have voted with joe biden 100 i'll send you this ad to watch it's great we'll
00:13:25.020 you put it up at some point alissa slocken um he's on a zoom call and she's like in her own words boy
00:13:31.580 we're getting used to just spending trillions and trillions of dollars that's right they are we pay
00:13:37.580 they're spending we pay it's their own words and the democrats in congress have gone along with joe
00:13:44.400 biden's agenda 100 you have people that claim to be moderate 100 with joe biden 100 with nancy
00:13:50.860 blosey it's frankly real malpractice it's something that we sort of sat there thinking wow i mean they're
00:13:56.580 it's crazy you would think maybe that they would try to throw these guys a bone give them some type
00:14:01.880 of independence but because we did so well in 2020 on the ballot with president trump and we're able to
00:14:07.280 get those numbers so close they've been forced to walk the plank whether it be tax acts on the
00:14:12.580 middle class with this inflation bill and um i sent over one of the slides it would be the last
00:14:17.520 one but only 37 percent and then you know in your kind of polling has voters supporting this inflation
00:14:23.960 act those numbers are only going to go down as we open fire we understand 32 only 32 percent
00:14:29.820 opposed but most people slow down i want to i want to i want to make sure we explain that this is very
00:14:34.580 important because this was i said that what happened is that the senators realized the game was up
00:14:39.560 they're going to lose the senate this was a payoff for their donors i mean this thing's a grab bag of
00:14:44.860 just bizarre spending right and but they renamed it the orwellian right the inflation control act
00:14:51.520 i want you to go what you guys focus on immediately nobody but the hardest core of the democratic base
00:14:56.360 who really doesn't understand it supports that correct that's what your analysis showed that hey
00:15:00.020 this is not a win for them we can actually turn this to a loser because it's driving inflation was that
00:15:05.820 the theory of the case for you guys that's exactly right and so usually when you get these big spending
00:15:10.380 bills or the money's being passed around usually you'll get your highest peak of support right after
00:15:14.980 it's passed right when people get the funding and then from there it's all downhill because people
00:15:19.260 you know the so you have the same numbers with the infrastructure act with their earlier bills on
00:15:24.040 build back better people aren't seeing his economic the economic agenda of joe biden helped them
00:15:29.580 they're saying that in the poll that was another slide i sent over voters are not equating
00:15:34.360 go biden and this is nbc again a buried lead they are not seeing the positive impact on
00:15:40.780 go biden's agenda and you know once we start opening fire and educating voters on what's in these bills
00:15:47.780 massive bailouts for luxury resorts different things like that golf courses you know that's in our ads
00:15:54.780 so if you look at the ads we're saying look she's spending all the money elissa slokin and he's giving
00:16:00.460 massive handouts of some of these big corporations and you're paying the price
00:16:04.360 i want to go back to something before i go to barris real quickly you said which is another
00:16:10.340 massive buried lead you're right now seeing biden plus six districts and you think you could get up
00:16:17.640 to with the with the money being smartly spent and focus on driving up their negatives because you're
00:16:23.160 educating independent and maybe even some moderate democrat voters potentially swing voters to this
00:16:29.520 orgy of spending in in in the crime wave you actually said you go to 15 and 17 you believe
00:16:35.080 right now that that republicans going after democratic incumbents in biden plus six districts
00:16:40.560 is achievable oh absolutely see what what i was saying was we're looking at the 74 seats and the median
00:16:47.500 margin of those seats is biden plus six and you know one end you've got a few seats about 11 that
00:16:53.180 president trump won a lot of those we've got locked up and you're gonna start seeing the money
00:16:57.180 move from making sure they win and start going lower on the chain as we cross our offensive deeper
00:17:02.840 in the democrat territory what i'm saying is we're looking at areas exactly right where yeah
00:17:07.560 biden won by 15 16 17 even where you know we looked at there might be opportunities as we get
00:17:14.720 closer and we're going to begin to start spending absolutely if you are a democrat i know the dnc is
00:17:18.780 going to be watching this and you're in an area that you um only won by 15 points you're definitely
00:17:23.540 an endangered vulnerable democrat no doubt about it one thing before i go to barris one more i just
00:17:30.480 gotta bring up people uh the the team over there does not get a big enough shout out for what you
00:17:36.860 did in 2020 i think it's historic you were net 14 or net 12 uh congressional seats and in the eve of
00:17:44.980 the election remember they were predicting pelosi is going to pick up anywhere i think from four to six
00:17:49.760 seats so i think it was the net 12 or the net 14 which is kind of historic in a look we're obviously
00:17:56.600 our theory of the case it was stolen it was net 15 seats 11 of them were republican women you know my
00:18:03.440 boss uh congressman stefanik supported actually i will never forget it i was sitting on the election
00:18:08.260 night room with elise stefanik and fox news said um i mean 9 p.m election night that nancy pelosi is
00:18:15.920 going to hold out 15 seats or whatever expand and so they were off by 30 which is significant
00:18:22.400 but real quick one of the most important things our people are so energized and you know the the most
00:18:29.120 energized voter and morning consult did an article on this months back but it still holds true today
00:18:34.320 the most energized voter the most energized subset of voter is the voter that believes the election was
00:18:41.340 stolen in 2020 our people are energized if he's going to be get five friends get 10 friends
00:18:46.620 get deep and get them to the polls in person of course
00:18:49.020 that's the purpose of today's show and the kickoff to this with you on here is to make sure that
00:18:55.120 everybody's a force multiplier let me go to richard barris quickly because remember two things to do
00:18:58.900 here is kind of the nomenclature make sure you understand how this polling fits in the status and
00:19:03.780 the enamorance but really critical path richard i just want to go to the pre-labor day period because i
00:19:09.180 think your polling showed the same thing the democrats took their shot they knew they had to
00:19:13.780 move early they took their shot but do you agree with alex it didn't it they didn't they didn't have
00:19:19.320 forget a knockout punch they didn't really even land a good punch it was a glancing blow richard
00:19:24.840 barris the glancing blow is is a better way to characterize it it's the summertime people are going
00:19:30.760 on vacations they're not really locking their views in i'll tell you when a lot of those views do lock
00:19:36.080 in steve before the summer that's the truth of it that's why uh george w bush you know four was so
00:19:41.900 smart to define carrie as a northeastern liberal going into april and you know may uh of that year
00:19:48.520 because people tune out and republicans stop picking up the phone and democrats are just high
00:19:54.620 interest all through that time period they have a lot of money they outspent republicans through the
00:19:58.860 summer and now we're into labor day again i i'm i'm stunned by the number of registered voter polls
00:20:04.920 that we're still seeing uh which is intentional and i think you know your your prior guest i i really
00:20:11.520 he's going over all of this polling data but uh the issues do make up the election elections are
00:20:17.440 decided by fundamentals they're not decided by news cycles and basically uh you know going into the
00:20:23.660 summer republicans had all of these top you know let's call it four out of five top issues they had
00:20:30.180 them riding in their favor the entire year then we go into the summer and we had you know distortion
00:20:35.600 what i would really call distortion and now we're post labor day people are starting to pay attention
00:20:40.760 again and they're saying to themselves what has been this thorn in my side all year oh that's right
00:20:45.680 it was inflation or maybe certain subset of metro voters i don't like the crime right that i'm seeing
00:20:52.080 that you know this has all been on their side this whole time and they're just going to be reminded
00:20:56.420 by it as well you know as long as republicans campaign on them um they're going to be reminded
00:21:01.660 on and again it's a first term incumbent midterm i'm stunned by all these forecasters and supposed
00:21:08.760 analysts pretending as if george w bush isn't the one and only modern example of a first term incumbent
00:21:15.560 not getting shellacked uh going into this um this first one so you know even a george uh even excuse
00:21:22.760 me even a joe biden's approval ticked up in some of these districts and states where there are
00:21:27.020 battleground senate races he ticked up from abysmal to just shy of abysmal uh and and he got some voters
00:21:34.740 that i think that the prior guest was right we saw that a crack in his foundation his base uh before
00:21:40.640 the summer and they came back to him a little bit but that that did not get him uh you know back on in
00:21:47.020 good standing with independence it did not get the independence on their side and when we get into
00:21:52.320 this a little bit more we just pulled nevada in the silver state look at i don't want to go out of
00:21:57.340 order here but i did this on purpose look at the issues by party what do these people care about
00:22:03.080 abortion the rise of abortion is being driven whether it's national polling we're doing or state
00:22:08.580 level polling it's being driven by their own voter the independents they don't care yeah they just
00:22:15.480 don't i mean that's what you know to try to sum it up steve hang on a second i want to get back
00:22:21.660 to you on nevada for a second we'll go back alex to richard point the the suppression polls because
00:22:26.700 i know and it took by the way it takes a lot of courage to sit there and go we're going to hold
00:22:30.260 our fire we're going to hold our fire we're going to hold our fire to after labor day right particularly
00:22:34.560 we see all the news stories in the news cycle and they're saying hey biden's getting more popular
00:22:38.340 he's had so many successes but talk about that these national polls and these kind of suppression polls
00:22:45.060 versus you guys are really looking at the battlegrounds themselves and at the district
00:22:49.780 yourselves and how the needle's being moved in there alex degrassi oh that's exactly right
00:22:55.000 steve so when you look at the national um polling right they're taking a lot of these big cities
00:23:00.140 that's not necessarily where we're competing some of that gets factored in at some of the senate races
00:23:04.400 where you've got you know walk megas different things but you know we're looking at individual
00:23:09.520 battleground by battleground we're looking at these target seats it's 74 seats it goes very deep
00:23:15.520 um and you know again these registered polls like you said um totally a scam and you need to look at
00:23:23.180 who's likely to vote of course and we have a significant enthusiasm gap and so when we looked
00:23:28.860 at 350 polls that we did uh in our battleground seats for the last four months we maintain a double
00:23:36.420 digit advantage on voters that say they are a 10 out of 10 enthusiastic to go vote and so that really
00:23:43.520 means that we've got the ability to really blow it out of course for the viewers that aren't in the
00:23:48.340 weeds out of how it's done when you pull you have to predict the um electorate right so maybe you look
00:23:54.520 at 35 republicans you know 30 independents you know whatever democrats right equal 100 it's all
00:24:01.840 different everywhere depending on the registration but if we're able to juice our numbers like president
00:24:06.660 and trump did in 2016 then we'll get real real deep even deeper than we're talking about here
00:24:12.400 on this call and that really is what the democrats are worried about that's why they're trying to suppress
00:24:18.300 prick divide and confuse people by thinking that there's some type of red mirage it's a total scam
00:24:24.480 they are in panic mode in free fall we've got 40 million more dollars between our republican
00:24:31.360 leadership democrat leadership and the nrcc and the triple state and all of that is laying down now
00:24:37.320 and it's unlike anything people have seen before in politics honestly i want to i want to go to
00:24:43.800 something before break you got about two minutes so we may not finish we'll take it over but is this
00:24:47.660 also show with the redistricting strategy because one of the theories the redistricting strategy hey
00:24:51.920 what we try to try to do here is maybe get some seats that are safer with that we're not going to put
00:24:56.840 money in at the last second and then we'll have powder dry and be able to use it on that is that
00:25:02.760 where you're seeing some of the redistricting strategy that came in early on and let's get
00:25:06.960 some safe seats or let's get some let's get some seats we don't have to put you know so much money
00:25:11.840 into and that leaves you with the ability to actually put lead on the target when it comes down to the
00:25:16.740 home stretch yeah absolutely so when you look at texas steve i believe we spent about 20 million
00:25:21.800 dollars defending heats in texas last cycle this cycle we're spending zero dollars and we're
00:25:28.440 actually digging deep on some of those biden kicks when you look at my report you see where we have
00:25:33.640 her in a incredibly strong position to be re-elected and you see that biden won very overwhelmingly in
00:25:39.400 that new drawn map and we're on offense in texas so we're able to move some of our money like you said
00:25:45.740 and go deep and so that didn't really get talked to the media a lot the media talked about
00:25:49.800 you know you know different issues where we had maps overturned by activist democrat judges but
00:25:55.680 the reality is redistricting went great for us because we are in a position to dig really deep
00:26:00.340 we're playing a lot less defense real quick 80 of the money that the republican party is spending is
00:26:05.920 on offense 80 of the democrat money is on defense and that alone tells you everything you need to
00:26:12.080 know about this cycle essentially the media won't talk about that okay we're gonna take a short
00:26:17.540 commercial break here on war room battleground we're gonna return with uh alex degrassi he is
00:26:22.880 the executive director of team alice that's the phonics political team who works obviously very
00:26:27.120 close with the nrcc uh walking us through these incredible climactic battle for the house of
00:26:33.760 representatives and we said the house is everything here also uh of course richard
00:26:38.540 bearish the people's pundit we're gonna return in just a moment here in war room battleground
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00:29:32.340 warroom battleground with stephen k bannon
00:29:40.040 okay welcome back look i want to make sure the audience understands something i say this about 16
00:29:46.460 that the first guy i reached out to was rey suprius you know you got to win in a coalition
00:29:50.000 right but victory there is no substitute for victory uh this what we're trying to in this
00:29:56.400 introductory kind of kickoff is to say this is a convergence of a lot of things this is this is a
00:30:01.340 redistricting strategy right that we were very you know involved in and getting people fired up there
00:30:07.180 was a redistricting in part one of the things people thought through said hey maybe we get more
00:30:12.280 safer seats and then leave these these seats at the end of the day when you're having the run-up
00:30:17.220 you can really put resources and back up right and put them on defense the other is an issue set and
00:30:22.380 i think at least stefanik's done a tremendous job the messaging from the republican conference have put
00:30:26.700 these things through and now you're seeing as we're coming down on border security and immigration
00:30:30.440 and inflation in the economy these are the top of people's minds well remember when you start
00:30:35.160 thinking about that that is six months to a year ago that's also converging that takes the thought of
00:30:40.260 hey where is this going to go how this is going to play it the other is obviously in the primaries
00:30:44.720 and the candidate selection these tough primaries has put it all in back here after you finish
00:30:48.240 everybody unite what alex just said the most fired up people voters have been mocked and ridiculed are
00:30:54.300 the people that said this said the war room passes say this thing was stolen in 2020 we're going to get
00:30:59.120 this back in 2022 and we're gonna start making some changes okay that also plays into it also the
00:31:05.680 confidence that you're on the right track when they're putting up ads all july and august and you hear
00:31:11.820 the donors and people are getting nervous and they're seeing the new york times saying it's
00:31:14.780 closing they're going to lose it it was a red tsunami now it's a red puddle politico's got it
00:31:18.960 every day the courage of your convictions to say we got the right issue set they're going to take their
00:31:24.600 best shot but they're not going to put us away and then we're going to hit them with everything we
00:31:28.860 got you know guns unsheathed uh starting after labor day that's kind of the convergence you're seeing
00:31:34.140 now and that's what people are talking about hey there may be more seats in play than people
00:31:39.000 previously imagine off of a higher base remember you just we just did net 15 in 2020 off a much
00:31:46.360 higher base one thing before i go to barris who's done some polling in wisconsin nevada i want to just
00:31:50.580 go through that i think reinforces this is alex this is key and i think this makes donors particularly
00:31:57.060 small donors know that hey if i'm gonna hit you with the 50 bill it's going on offense right now you're
00:32:02.840 saying 80 of the resources for democrats are in defense and 80 of the resources going to republican
00:32:09.900 candidates are on offense can you explain take a minute and explain that absolutely steve so if you
00:32:15.800 look at where the ads are up between the two main republican spending groups on the house side the
00:32:20.840 nrcc and congressional leadership fund with house republican leadership we are spending massively on
00:32:28.740 offense like i said 80 we are digging really really deep we can get to some of those seats but
00:32:34.620 it's so important for people to think about donating because here's some real weed stuff we were talking
00:32:39.640 to steve that we all love the weeds here when you give that money directly to candidates which is the
00:32:43.960 best way to do it candidates that you support candidates that are in these target seats they can
00:32:48.580 run hybrid ads with the nrcc they can run coordinated ads that money is needed for us to match that and we
00:32:54.840 could buy at a candidate rate much cheaper we have figured out at the republican party how to do that
00:33:00.220 it's so important that if you're able to give to our targeted republican seats because we are able to
00:33:06.460 match them and buy the td commercials at a candidate rate and we are now opening up on that front it's
00:33:12.160 essentially like a third front and it's really doing a number on these democrats not only are we hammering
00:33:18.280 them into the ground but we are getting our message out about what we're going to do and educating
00:33:23.040 who our candidates are at a record pace
00:33:26.020 wow hang on for one second i want to go to richard walk us to take a couple minutes walk us through
00:33:32.820 your polling just came out this week on wisconsin and then let's start with nevada i think it's the
00:33:36.980 recent then talk about wisconsin yeah let's uh let's do nevada if nevada if we have the uh the graphic
00:33:43.180 for the senate this poll uh ruffled a few feathers uh but the truth is you said something in the beginning
00:33:49.000 of this uh entire segment and you said that uh you know democrats were banking on the educated woman
00:33:55.040 and republicans were banking on the working class hispanic nevada right now is reminding me and you'll
00:34:01.640 remember this it's reminding me of a little bit of the conversations we had before 2020 steve where i
00:34:07.000 told you places like duval uh typically republican were getting a little bit more democratic but that
00:34:12.640 was all right because trump was going to make it up in places like miami-dade where this working
00:34:16.720 class hispanic coalition was shifting away from democrats then everybody thought i was crazy you
00:34:22.500 remember and then of course he won 46 percent of the vote in miami-dade on election night and walked
00:34:26.740 away with 200 000 extra votes that is what adam laxalt looks like he's doing in clark county nevada
00:34:31.980 he's made it a tremendous effort to reach out and he's got every leg of the republican coalition
00:34:37.840 trump's base loves laxalt he's also got the more uh you know moderate voter who was a little bit you
00:34:44.300 know uh iffy on trump and he's got the very typical uh traditional establishment voter he's got all
00:34:50.660 three legs of the republican party and it's working for him we have him up by about two points but a lot
00:34:56.260 less undecided uh than we saw in the governor's race but you could see it there it's a very working
00:35:02.000 class state democrats do well with working class voters in this state uh you know people always say
00:35:08.260 that republicans are overrepresented in the polling in nevada it's one of the only states that's the case
00:35:12.620 not with us it's not we had hillary leading in that state three and a half points and we actually
00:35:17.180 uh overestimated her a little bit in 2020 i didn't even want to pull it because i was suspicious
00:35:21.760 that it was really going to be competitive and it ended up much closer than anybody thought it was
00:35:26.800 going to be laxalt has he was smart he recognized this trend when we broke it down by union he was
00:35:34.120 actually winning the private sector union vote he was losing the public sector union vote which overall
00:35:40.280 was a little bit better and so do uh do flex all right now slight favorites like this which would
00:35:47.120 be a pickup for republicans of course um now i the governor and you have the governor's uh map up or
00:35:53.420 graph up too we can go over real quick lombardo has a similar two-point lead but it is lower this is a
00:35:59.800 little bit different well lombardo is is uh doing a little bit better in washoe county not doing as well
00:36:05.560 in clark county so there's a bit of a trade-off he reminds me a little bit more of more traditional
00:36:10.340 whereas laxalt gets a lot more of that trump coalition uh but again with all of you know the
00:36:16.260 large lion share of the undecided vote disapproving of the job joe biden's doing it's going to be tough
00:36:23.780 for sisolak and other democratic governors to convince these people i'm at 42 43 vote for me
00:36:30.620 anyway give me another term it's going to be tough steve historically very very difficult we can move
00:36:36.060 on to wisconsin but again people were you know 20 point lead for adam laxalt among independents is
00:36:42.360 exactly what republicans need to do and it used to be the equation used to be either tie in washoe county
00:36:49.140 or win it back or tighten the margin in clark i think with the shift in hispanic vote laxalt's you
00:36:55.800 know one of the candidates leading the way doing this the equation has changed you can lose washoe
00:37:01.220 if those educated voters go against you because clark is 70 of the vote so if you outperform in
00:37:07.100 clark county and you run up those rural margins douglas elk right all those uh you're you're gonna
00:37:13.520 you're gonna win it you're gonna win it the equation changes the math totally when you bring these
00:37:18.480 cost of living you know uh voters in the in the mix uh you bring these economy and jobs voters in
00:37:24.360 they're hispanic yeah hang up before before you go to west before you go to wisconsin i want to go
00:37:29.340 back to the house side for a second to to alex yeah when you see a guy like uh adam laxalt alex
00:37:35.180 degrassi up by 20 on independents is that because the issue set is that is that the derivation of the
00:37:41.360 the you know border security 36 crime 23 you got such big spreads because you've messaged rights you
00:37:47.960 picked the right issues in the in the in the electorate and now you're seeing and this is is this
00:37:53.140 where you're seeing hispanics and independents start to come to the republican side is that is
00:37:59.060 that how you is that how adam laxalt's up 20 points by an independence that's exactly right and when you
00:38:04.960 look at our battlegrounds we essentially have those same numbers up by about 19 20 percent in a lot of
00:38:10.480 areas with independence and it's because the independent voters issue set matches what our
00:38:15.960 republican candidates are fighting for it matches you know our issue set and when you have a situation
00:38:21.140 where the independents are aligned with republicans in terms of what they care about that's when and
00:38:27.620 the democrats aren't talking to them they're essentially ceding that territory to us it's
00:38:32.220 really malpractice like no one's really seen before honestly i don't actually understand what
00:38:36.480 they're doing to be honest and the reason is independents are not partisan they're not particularly
00:38:41.280 ideological they may even be closer to some of the lower information voters they're just living their
00:38:46.040 lives they're not really that engaged with it so when you have the issue set that we have crime
00:38:51.620 immigration economy inflation that is people's daily lives it's not these things even some of the
00:38:58.240 cultural issues like abortion or whatever is that what you're seeing is that reinforce this kind of
00:39:03.920 quite frankly shocking spread you're seeing both in the house and embarrass the senate of independents
00:39:09.760 uh looking like they're going to not just vote but turn out and vote for republican candidates
00:39:14.500 yeah that's exactly right and then when you really look at the independents one of the most important
00:39:18.880 demographics is you know this pro-choice voter but they care more about the economy they care more about
00:39:25.040 crime they might be pro-choice in belief but they're not opposed to republicans and so the democrats are
00:39:30.580 throwing all this egg all their eggs into this you know abortion crisis situation but there's a lot of voters
00:39:36.680 out there when you look at these polls that political and mbc are putting up and they say
00:39:40.740 the country's you know 55 pro-vortion this or that it's all misinformation when you look at it voters
00:39:46.900 might be pro-choice but they care a lot more about their grocery bills crime skyrocketing and different
00:39:52.000 things like that we are honing in on that subset educating voters and we are doing very well with
00:39:57.660 that group and it's part of the reason why it lacks all others are in such strong positions as we head into
00:40:02.820 october when you talk about intensity of voters and that's in midterms obviously we're not guys
00:40:09.080 not at the top of the ticket but the intensity of voters particularly people that are still
00:40:12.320 burning with passion on what happened in 3 november of 2020 and you're saying that's one of the big
00:40:16.980 drivers the democrats went overboard with this anti-democracy the j6 are you seeing in the in the
00:40:24.760 congressional side i'll go to richard in a second any traction of that that that's moving voters to
00:40:29.780 to turn out or voters to vote on that topic sir no certainly the only people talking about that
00:40:36.680 are the hyper pensive the msnbc cnn watching democrats that are sitting there and sort of
00:40:42.000 consuming that all day long when you get out into the field and i spend a lot of time out there with
00:40:46.260 the voters that's really it's a non-issue and they have totally blow you know they totally blew it in
00:40:53.620 fact they're actually really helping our people dig deep and work extra hard as volunteers local committee
00:40:59.220 members because this guy got on tv and called everyone semi-fascist people haven't i mean it's
00:41:05.140 getting crazy out there as you know see and everyone watching and our folks are digging in real deep like
00:41:11.380 we've never seen before i mean i think about just at least the phonic district we have like over 10 000
00:41:16.400 people reaching out to us that are begging for lawn signs i mean it's just like crazy energy on the
00:41:23.440 ground among our people we can't even keep up with the amount of signs that people want to put out on
00:41:28.440 the lawn to show support for at least and the republicans in general i mean that's happening
00:41:32.840 everywhere when you say malpractice are you saying that the morning mika's and the joanne reeds and
00:41:40.160 the rachel maddows and that washington you know the washington new york boston acela corridor elites
00:41:46.340 their issue set was theirs in that bubble didn't play in the country they didn't do the work to do it and
00:41:53.080 now they're jammed up at the last second is that when you say that there's this uh you call it
00:41:57.780 malpractice i that's exactly right they have dissociated from essentially the rest of the
00:42:03.940 country they're off sort of talking i guess la la land and you know independent voters republican voters
00:42:10.640 and a significant amount of democrat voters are looking for solutions on the crisis space in the
00:42:16.340 country not this whole you know abortion crisis and things like that like we showed the slide earlier
00:42:22.980 36 percent of voters are looking for you know an abortion candidate and that's mostly the democrat
00:42:29.860 base when you look a lot of these seats and so a vast majority of voters are looking for a candidate
00:42:35.100 that's going to challenge the cost of living and again that was taken by mbc a lot more democrats in
00:42:40.980 poll our numbers are even stronger than what mbc has so we feel good about it because they because
00:42:46.900 because mbc waited to democrats let me go back to richard barris richard i just came out with wisconsin i think
00:42:52.420 early in the week walk us through wisconsin yeah if we have that one we could throw that up i think
00:42:57.800 this goes to to being able to return fire ron johnson took a beating um ridiculous um but you know that's
00:43:06.540 something we have to deal with and now that he's had a chance to return fire you know i this reminds me
00:43:12.020 a little bit about like what we saw in 2016 steve only uh we only had ron johnson ahead by about two
00:43:18.360 points in 2016 we have him up by about three now again going to these issues the only issue that mandela
00:43:25.520 barnes leads on it are is the abortion issue uh of the other top four most important issues which by
00:43:31.860 the way were um were cost of living inflation the economy and jobs and then um immigration we had crime
00:43:38.580 right after that and on that as well ron johnson leads so if you pick those as your most important issue
00:43:44.420 you're voting for ron johnson in wow uh he's doing fantastic but the difference this time i think
00:43:50.440 between what we saw in 16 is that he's also doing very well in the northwestern part of the state
00:43:55.900 right south of ashland and bayfield i go to this all the time with people in wisconsin because this
00:44:01.340 is how pollsters miss wisconsin that obama walker trump voter just south of the birth of the progressive
00:44:09.000 movement which now loves trump and you have all those working class counties over there and they're
00:44:14.440 considered the northwest but they're not heavily populated and they're difficult to poll and people
00:44:20.000 miss them all the time ron johnson is getting that on top of what other republican candidates who have
00:44:25.560 been able to piece together a coalition get so it reminds me a little bit more of maybe let's say
00:44:31.100 walker's re-election coalition when he was re-elected during the recall uh ballpark in that area and even
00:44:38.100 though there's still four and a half uh percent that are undecided look at how many of those voters
00:44:43.160 again not just disapprove but more than 50 of the four and a half who remain undecided for senate
00:44:50.820 more than 50 strongly disapprove you think they're going to vote for mandela barnes wow that's not going
00:44:57.120 to happen so ron johnson is in a is in a uh we see him a strong position steve strong position
00:45:03.460 uh richard hangar for one second i um i want to go back to alex for a second you guys are 100
00:45:10.680 obviously focused on these house races is there because the issue set and what you're seeing of
00:45:17.160 how the democrats took their shot and didn't have any knockout punches and i understand you got
00:45:22.860 candidates of whether for governor or senator or maybe even house that you know may not be clicking
00:45:27.920 their campaigns not be working but overall is this drive in the house can this also with some
00:45:34.000 of these governors and senators it all pulls together and people just voting straight down the ticket
00:45:38.340 and you end up you know one hand washes the other a strong governor helps a house race uh a guy in the
00:45:44.380 senate but you see these these house races where it's all come together and you're putting money on
00:45:49.980 driving their negatives up which is really exposing them to actually what they've been doing which is
00:45:55.280 voting for biden is is that one of the things that you guys are are seeing or is that you believe
00:45:59.900 could happen but absolutely and i'll use oregon as an example we've got a situation in oregon where
00:46:05.880 the republican governors are pouring in you've got two democrats running one as an independent
00:46:11.120 who can split the vote we're neck and neck okay and republicans are very excited again that's a blue
00:46:16.880 state very tough to win so typically you know what's the point of my vote we're never going to win
00:46:21.720 no no this time it's all on the line in oregon a republican governor portland heads are going to
00:46:27.480 explode we have multiple top target seats and i want to use one example oregon five lori chavez
00:46:33.640 de rima she's a latino woman she was supported by elise gary early on through epac she now is surging
00:46:40.180 the democrats have pulled out pete schrider was a democrat um liberal incumbent and lost the primary to
00:46:47.460 um a far left about socialist defund the police radical who wears it on her sleeve
00:46:52.980 and we're polarizing her we're up by 10 we're up by you know we are winning in a landslide right
00:46:58.680 outside portland and so heads are exploding everywhere we've got multiple target seats in
00:47:04.400 oregon and there's areas where we're running real deep and people are having a meltdown about it and
00:47:09.960 when you talk about the 80 20 where we're spending when we start digging deep the dems are going to turn
00:47:15.500 on each other and go ballistic because they're going to start cutting these guys out cutting them
00:47:20.040 loop and it's going to get crazy on their side when they are faced to make tough decisions about who's
00:47:25.960 safe and who to let um go down on the battlefield alex uh we've got so much more to go through we're
00:47:35.200 going to figure out how to do it this has been a great introductory first off how do people get to
00:47:38.940 elise her campaign uh you know a team elise and also how do they get to her social media and then
00:47:45.080 yours also so if you go to elise for congress.com uh her her page you know elise stefanik truth getter
00:47:52.580 facebook uh twitter all that myself the grass 81 on twitter truth getter all that we need the money
00:48:02.280 with the money that gets sent to elise's campaign account you can check the fbc we shovel that right
00:48:07.840 out the door directly to candidates that matter directly to the party and target areas and that
00:48:12.940 money goes into the general fund and we're able to buy that candidate rate which is critical as
00:48:17.640 opposed to the super pack that have to spend at a much higher rate per tv at so we've got the real
00:48:22.900 smart tactics we appreciate everyone's what an honor to be on and i appreciate it no no so once again
00:48:29.740 where do people go if people want to find out more about this and potentially donate and to get more
00:48:33.540 information where do they go you can go to nrcc.org would be another one that's got the map
00:48:38.200 they've got what seats we're targeting um you can make donations directly to our targeted candidates
00:48:43.300 that got you can kind of click uh you know where you want to go we've got 74 targeted seats and just
00:48:49.180 real quickly you know three of them are in areas that trump won by 10 we only apply if there's a chart
00:48:54.260 if you can get that bigger possible but you know six of them are areas that trump won between five to
00:49:00.040 10 seven of them between zero to five we feel great about all those and it goes real deep down
00:49:05.840 to biden plus over 10 percent and a lot of those are open seats in that biden plus 10 because the
00:49:11.860 democrats have abandoned their district because they know they're going down
00:49:15.200 alex degrassi thank you very much honored to have you on here fantastic presentation
00:49:21.780 uh first of many i'm sure uh richard you've been uh you've been out you've got other polling that's
00:49:28.160 going to come out how do people get to the people's pundit how do they get to your locals
00:49:31.620 best place to follow me is on locals it's people's pundit dot locals dot com and i mean basically you
00:49:38.880 can find everything there uh the nevada poll that was done through the public polling project but
00:49:43.360 that's all we shared on locals as well then i'm on truth and getter at people's pundit and on
00:49:48.480 twitter at people's underscore pundit but locals really is uh the collective of it all steve
00:49:54.120 people's pundit dot locals dot com with doing cd media and big data people just want to know
00:50:00.520 you're going to be dropping other states as we go on i know you've done three two before the labor
00:50:05.060 day a couple three after labor day two people expect more of these battleground states to come
00:50:09.140 out richard burris yes they can for both cd media and uh and for locals we're going to do arizona we're
00:50:16.880 going to do georgia again it's keep stay tuned richard burris you're fantastic the people's pundit
00:50:24.140 okay uh we're going to be back tomorrow morning at 10 o'clock i hope this got you jacked up because
00:50:29.600 it's all coming together but it all depends on you this is all about you with the strategy all of it
00:50:34.880 it's you you you see you tomorrow morning town
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