Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 154： Pennsylvania Is Our Key To Energy Independence; Biden's Claims Of Nuclear Armageddon

00:00:00.000 this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing

00:00:13.160 people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the authoritarians

00:00:20.920 get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just like in georgia

00:00:26.700 it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations

00:00:31.780 that's why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is the fight

00:00:35.540 all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your host

00:00:42.640 stephen k bannon for years i wore the uniform of the united states army one of the biggest challenges

00:00:48.820 besides deployment was serving an alpha company there's a lot of pressure on the soldiers you

00:00:54.240 know there were suicides there and that's when doug came in and he instilled discipline he took it very

00:00:59.640 seriously he did not want any of his soldiers to be hurt we did different things with the soldiers

00:01:04.580 working soldiers good projects things like better training stuff to keep their mind going with a

00:01:10.080 leader like that things started to happen i don't remember any more suicides it was really important

00:01:14.940 to doug to connect personally with his soldiers he did it by bringing up confidence by bringing up

00:01:20.820 standard we'd be on a run and soldiers starting to get tired he'd run all the way around it trying

00:01:26.160 to motivate soldiers and i kept looking back and he'd be back there was a soldier who was falling

00:01:29.600 out but he'd sit to me go you can do this you can do this and next thing you know he'd bring them

00:01:33.040 back to the flock i guess i admire most doug's tenacity and so it's important for me that i bring

00:01:38.160 everyone along with me and give everyone a hope and opportunity i want every pennsylvania to know

00:01:42.580 that i will have their back all right jack pasobic in for stephen k bannon steve bannon on assignment

00:01:49.660 he's actually winging out to i believe new mexico with mike lindell right now so i am in and we've got

00:01:57.780 coming in hot right now from the great commonwealth of pennsylvania it's none other than senator doug

00:02:04.880 mastriano you just saw his ad right there this incredible ad that's going up on television across

00:02:10.020 pennsylvania senator mastriano how are you today thanks for having me on jack and what a great event

00:02:15.720 we had this past weekend with you down in the southeast of the state well i thank you i appreciate

00:02:20.420 uh going up there it's always great to be able to be home and i think that really we have to

00:02:25.460 understand that pennsylvania is truly the keystone when we're looking at our country we're looking at

00:02:30.780 where we are in 2022 2024 you know interestingly enough there was something you mentioned even before

00:02:36.620 we get into the news of the day there was something you mentioned on or in that speech that i really

00:02:42.040 stuck with me and it was this idea of every every day now we're hearing about pipelines we're hearing

00:02:48.420 about geopolitics we're hearing about energy and we're talking about nordstrom and ukraine and russia

00:02:54.060 and the saudis and opec and everything else but what you said is how come we're not talking about

00:02:59.720 pennsylvania we're not talking about the marcellus shale find that god provided for the people of

00:03:05.360 pennsylvania and the people of america right under our feet and you actually had this idea about

00:03:10.740 potentially bringing a pipeline for the lng from marcellus the marcellus find all the way out in the

00:03:17.660 west through to philadelphia and then building an lng terminal maybe even getting the old conoco

00:03:23.800 phillips refinery back going again and all of the jobs that would come through for pennsylvania and i said

00:03:30.060 why isn't anybody else talking about this can you walk us through that idea

00:03:33.700 yeah absolutely and you're absolutely right you know god has blessed us with incredible natural

00:03:39.520 gas with coal and very high grade oil in the center and western part of our state and could you imagine

00:03:45.140 if we built two pipelines like the c1 going up to erie that will take a bit more time because there's

00:03:50.080 not an infrastructure in place but one to the southeast in philly with access to the atlantic

00:03:55.020 ocean via the delaware river it'll bring millions of dollars to throughout the state especially philly

00:04:01.220 that we have a terminal there that could solve a lot of the world's woes that we can help germany

00:04:06.420 get off of russian oil and gas something by the way ronald reagan warned them against in the 80s when

00:04:10.740 the first pipeline was built by the soviets across east germany and and we can help our allies and the

00:04:16.120 baltic nations get off of it we can bring money to pennsylvania and help bring order and the stability

00:04:21.420 to the world and it's we're sitting on it it's interesting to me that joe biden has no problem

00:04:26.180 begging the saudi king for help and the saudi king in effect gave our president a middle finger said

00:04:32.540 no we're going to slash oil production and much of the answers to our woes and and the nation's woes

00:04:37.340 are right here underneath our feet in pennsylvania so on day one we're going to shoot for being number

00:04:41.720 one in energy in the nation as a governor i i have control of what goes on within the state you know

00:04:46.640 by and large as far as state lands on and we're going to open up state lands we're going to roll back

00:04:51.360 regulations get us out of this regional greenhouse gas initiative and really just kind of turn the

00:04:56.020 lights on drive down energy costs in pennsylvania and be open for business yeah i think it would be

00:05:01.000 amazing you know i had that that line this week and i said you know we need all the different regions of

00:05:06.380 pennsylvania to unite to save our state from the biden regime whether you're so i was saying oh is it

00:05:11.400 whether you're from sheets pennsylvania or rudders pennsylvania turkey hill or wawa pennsylvania i mean

00:05:17.340 but but now combine that with what you're saying there imagine if you go to buy your gas whether

00:05:22.520 you're at wawa or sheets or whatever and you're actually you're actually filling your car up with

00:05:27.300 pennsylvania gas that we got in pennsylvania we refined in pennsylvania and now we're selling in

00:05:34.560 pennsylvania imagine what that would do for our economy not only imagine the the amount of jobs for

00:05:40.000 primary secondary and tertiary industries that would come up through that and i think you're right by the

00:05:44.800 way the the idea of being able to build pipelines up to erie uh then throughout the entire northeast i

00:05:50.040 mean we would become a net energy exporter and that would be amazing and just for people who know out

00:05:56.100 there are like financial gas industry has the capability now to confer to refine that lng to car

00:06:02.460 gas all we need is a plant built in pennsylvania could you imagine and when we can become self-sufficient

00:06:07.520 pennsylvania as far as energy and become an exporter to new england and overseas as well i mean it's not

00:06:12.980 that hard and so i have a plan it's called the pennsylvania energy independence act and the goal

00:06:18.720 is is in the first first one or two years of my administration here just just just to open up

00:06:23.740 everything here so we can start exporting jobs will come here opportunities will come here your kids

00:06:28.960 and grandkids will want to stay in pennsylvania will drive down taxes it'll bring revenue into 1.00

00:06:32.980 harrisburg our roads are terrible our infrastructure is falling apart this will bring us money to actually

00:06:37.600 fix our roads and bridges and actually be like a modernized state for a change well you look and

00:06:43.300 i've i've been all 67 counties you've also uh just finished up um holding rallies in all 67 counties but

00:06:49.240 when you get up to some areas of uh north central when you get to the northwest you see these roads

00:06:54.440 and they're in a sorry state of disrepair and our our governors and our administrations from uh from

00:06:59.840 brindell on forward they have not been upkeeping our roads in pennsylvania but i wanted to shift gears a

00:07:05.360 little bit over to wilkesbury because there was a statement that i saw that your campaign had put

00:07:11.420 out earlier today about the lockdown that's going on at the veterans administration in wilkesbury can

00:07:17.740 you break us through what's going on down there yeah our veterans have been on the the wrong end of

00:07:23.500 the whole deal here since covid we watched governor wolf with his uh draconian policies shutting down

00:07:29.560 things followed by what happened in veterans hospitals across the state we saw a plague of deaths in the

00:07:35.020 southeast veterans home not too far from where we rallied this past weekend with you and then up

00:07:39.500 in wilkesbury they're still treating the veterans home like it's in the midst of 2020 family members

00:07:44.240 can't visit very heavy-handed draconian rules on masks and what have you and that completely needs

00:07:49.180 to end family members must have access to their loved ones this is just so typical of of democrat

00:07:55.980 draconian policies it needs to end and that happening to happen to veterans that you and i served with

00:08:01.400 potentially it's just unconscionable to me oh that's absolutely horrific senator i i i want to

00:08:06.640 be respectful of your time i know you got a lot going on there in pennsylvania tell us where can

00:08:10.660 people go we've got only got about 30 plus days left where can people go to sign up to volunteer for

00:08:17.040 your campaign mastriano's army what's the website and then how can people because i get this question

00:08:22.620 all the time they say what can we do this this is the war room so we're here to talk about action

00:08:26.820 action action what actions should people be taking with really this last month sprint to the election

00:08:33.740 if you live within pennsylvania or within driving distance uh you know go to dougforgov.com and sign

00:08:40.980 up to be a volunteer actually anywhere in a nation you can make phone calls for us for instance we're

00:08:44.860 making millions of phone calls so go to dougforgov.com if you're able to pitch into our campaign to keep

00:08:50.260 our ads running until election day just a month away from tomorrow uh then go to dougforgov.com

00:08:55.880 and donate the people on the the war room have been very generous we're asking for continued

00:09:00.420 support you know until we cross that line we have a people's movement jack when we were together we

00:09:05.400 had a meet and greet first off over in your home county at chester county it's supposed to be a

00:09:09.260 meet and greet of maybe a couple hundred people it turned into a rally was packed in a fire hall and

00:09:13.260 then we went up to bucks county a couple hours later and had over a thousand people in the room

00:09:17.560 that kind of movement is sustained of course by the generosity of people from across the nation

00:09:22.440 thank you very much senator mastriano good luck to you out on the trail i know you've got a lot going

00:09:27.540 on thank you brother see you next time see you next time uh we'll be we'll be back up in pennsylvania

00:09:33.640 don't worry pa don't worry poso is coming home by the way the philadelphia inquiry they said why

00:09:38.700 would doug mastriano bring this this maga guy into pennsylvania into the southeast why would he bring him 0.99

00:09:44.300 there i mean this he needs to appeal to moderates he needs to appeal to the suburban

00:09:47.540 nights i'm from southeastern pennsylvania philadelphia inquire maybe do a little bit of research

00:09:53.280 because it turns out places like kimberton guess what that's where i used to play football that's

00:09:57.260 where i used to play baseball that's where i used to play uh paintball believe it or not right right

00:10:01.400 going up there down route 23 okay that is where i'm from so why would you bring somebody who's uh 0.92

00:10:07.700 supporting you and endorsing you inside your their own home area gee you think absolutely ridiculous but 0.72

00:10:13.960 speaking of absolutely ridiculous i want to bring on now pedro gonzalez because pedro is always focused 0.97

00:10:20.740 on things that are completely ridiculous and uh do we have pedro we have pedro we do have him 0.62

00:10:26.860 now now pedro we're about to i want to play a clip very quickly and it's a clip that uh it's 0.72

00:10:32.920 basically based off of this comment that our president joe biden made last night saying that

00:10:39.600 we're at the brink of armageddon talking about nuclear war we're in the midst of a nuclear crisis

00:10:46.680 somehow we went from a two years ago with a world that was completely at peace isis was barely uh even

00:10:55.060 talked about anymore and now just two years later we're on the brink of nuclear war let's play this clip

00:11:02.320 very quickly mr president will you talk to us about putin sir

00:11:08.260 you think armageddon is coming sir

00:11:14.140 pedro um are we at the brink of armageddon and if so why

00:11:31.040 i think that we're definitely i've said this before and i'm going to continue saying it again

00:11:38.400 until it's too late but it feels like we're sleepwalking into something like armageddon

00:11:43.680 which really is just another way of saying a nuclear exchange right i mean that's the thing

00:11:48.380 on everyone's mind you've got these comments from zelinski calling for a preemptive strike against

00:11:54.580 russia to decapitate its nuclear capabilities and then you've got after that you've got zelinski's 0.92

00:12:01.000 team doing damage control basically saying no no we're not talking about a nuclear exchange but i

00:12:06.860 mean it's very obvious that any kind of preemptive strike led by the u.s led nato on russia with the

00:12:13.900 express purpose of preventing russia from being able to defend itself with with nuclear weapons would

00:12:18.620 obviously touch off that kind of an exchange so it i mean it does feel like that but obviously the

00:12:25.860 thing that you can't get away from is the fact that i know that we've been told that all of this

00:12:31.060 is russia's fault uh but it's actually the biden administration it's washington dc that is pushing

00:12:37.920 us toward this kind of an escalation while at the same time blaming everyone else uh but themselves

00:12:44.360 and their allies so i mean yeah we are in in a place that we haven't been since i think like

00:12:51.440 the key of missile crisis i mean that's that's biden alluded to that also uh but again it's the

00:12:57.780 united states government like i think i would put as much blame on them as i would anybody else at this

00:13:02.660 point i know again we've heard all that we can't say that but it's the truth well we've heard and i

00:13:08.100 think what's what's the most sober um you know really proposal that i've heard um you know certainly

00:13:15.100 elon musk put up a proposal for peace that was immediately shot down but you also saw president

00:13:20.260 trump and this was something that had always been part of trump's appeal to middle americans to the

00:13:27.260 working class he was he was saying look by the way today i don't know if people know this today is

00:13:32.260 the 21 year anniversary of the united states invasion of afghanistan and our declaration of war

00:13:40.400 against the taliban so here we are 21 years later thousands of americans dead taliban still in control

00:13:47.420 of afghanistan flush with money and materiel that we provided them when we left there president trump

00:13:54.140 said why don't we just go to these people and make deals with them figure out what they want get them 1.00

00:14:00.700 to back down because you're not going to take out right you're never going to remove russia from the

00:14:05.960 map you're never going to remove north korea never going to remove china writ large is there a way that

00:14:11.200 we can work at least peacefully to keep the peace and then maintain some kind of order and that's what

00:14:17.500 he's called for as well i don't hear any of these politicians though that are currently in power

00:14:21.800 talking about peace no no it's entirely escalatory i mean this is this is again this is the bizarre

00:14:28.800 thing right uh it's actually the other side that seems to want a kind of resolution to this that

00:14:34.620 does not escalate any further that does not go beyond existing boundaries and it's the so-called

00:14:39.680 good guys that are actually saying no we won't take anything short of complete regime change in russia

00:14:44.300 or the complete destruction of russia basically just the the liquidate the liquidation of russia as it

00:14:50.740 exists today that that is what the good the supposed good guys are saying right now i mean that

00:14:55.360 it is really insane and i think it's important to take other other events into context right

00:15:00.080 uh in the background of course you have the destruction of the nordstrom one and two pipelines

00:15:04.560 and it there is again this kind of elephant in the room where everyone seems to think that it was

00:15:10.380 either the biden administration or one of its allies or the the ukrainians or the poles or somebody else

00:15:16.680 but the bottom line is is that it was the west it seems like that was behind the destruction of the

00:15:22.320 nordstrom one and two pipelines and you had that fantastic exchange i think it was on msnbc

00:15:26.480 with that prominent economist jeffrey sacks who said who said you know the quiet part out loud

00:15:31.100 and immediately the the host tried to shut him down because you're not supposed to say that right

00:15:35.740 the good guys don't do things like that the good guys don't blow up civilian infrastructure

00:15:39.120 and then just the other day there was this really interesting report in the new york times where u.s

00:15:44.700 officials are blaming ukraine for the assassination of daria dugan in russia the murder

00:15:50.660 of a non-combatant in a foreign country because they were critical of the war effort and i think

00:15:56.680 that's really interesting because again it shows that either the u.s government is trying to distance

00:16:00.860 itself from ukraine which flew off the reservation in this case or you know wants to basically throw

00:16:06.840 somebody else under the bus i don't know but the point is is that the the what biden is saying

00:16:11.860 needs to be understood in the context of all of these provocations that are coming from the west that is

00:16:17.760 not taking anything short of complete regime change in russia uh as acceptable pedro how much of this

00:16:24.480 is kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy because there there were two or three generations depending on

00:16:30.920 the account in this country that were socially conditioned to believe that nuclear war would

00:16:36.480 happen at some point in their lifetimes remember we had the bunkers we had the you know the the

00:16:41.200 ridiculous hiding under the desk drills which i remember even as a student in the 90s uh prior to the

00:16:47.300 the soviet union that very i guess it would have been 1990 uh i i definitely did at least one desk

00:16:53.080 drill i remember the bunkers in the basement you know we had this nuclear i probably didn't actually

00:16:58.520 protect you from nuclear fallout i think about it over your head yeah put a book over your head right

00:17:02.820 obviously but this idea that we did that to children and for so many people like joe biden and

00:17:08.520 others they lived their entire life so is this kind of self-fulfilling in a way

00:17:13.040 kind of but in some ways it's worse and i'll come back to the kind of part but i think in the way

00:17:18.180 that it's worse is that we have people that are openly saying well it's worth it a nuclear exchange

00:17:22.920 with russia would be worth it to save democracy or it wouldn't be that bad really i mean that that

00:17:27.940 people like us are kind of just exaggerating about the realities of nuclear warfare i mean that

00:17:31.600 that is what you're hearing from people from the atlanticists that it either it's worth the risk or

00:17:36.800 it wouldn't be that bad in the long run um which is insane which which makes it worse because

00:17:41.380 we don't have the kind of fear that is you know necessary to avoid that kind of thing uh but

00:17:47.120 self-fulfilling we're not naive people like you and i jack war is inevitable right but there are

00:17:55.000 things you can do to mitigate the chances of war and certainly reduce the cost of war right and it

00:18:00.860 doesn't seem to me that we did any of those things and that one of the reasons trump was so despised is

00:18:05.900 like you said he ran on normalizing relations with russia to just try to avoid exactly this kind

00:18:12.400 of outcome and trump was not alone he was actually saying the same thing that george kennan had said in

00:18:17.740 the past the famous anti-communist theorist saying the same things that henry kissinger had said the

00:18:23.560 same things that alexander solzhenitsyn had said all these other luminaries have been saying the same

00:18:28.820 thing for the longest time that that if the west does not change tack it will result in an escalation

00:18:34.060 and a conflict with russia no one listened uh sorry people did listen they were just shouted

00:18:39.640 down and called russian stooges and then you know this just all of this that we're dealing with right

00:18:44.400 now it just happened spontaneously no one saw it coming well there's that there's that great um you

00:18:49.600 know i don't know if it's an apocryphal quote or not but when they say world war three will be fought

00:18:54.420 with nuclear weapons and then world war four will be fought with sticks and stones and uh if you want

00:19:00.200 to understand by the way a little bit about nuclear war go watch and i've gone back and watched this

00:19:06.140 the film the american tv film the day after on abc this was a mini series that aired in 1983

00:19:13.440 and actually showed the effects of what nuclear war nuclear exchange would have on the midwest set in

00:19:19.980 kansas believe it or not and set in in the midwest it has to do there was a launch site there the

00:19:25.060 russians were trying to hit it absolute devastation um this was a film that when it came out people were

00:19:31.440 watching it they were terrified they were calling up abc to just tell them to turn it off to tell them

00:19:36.780 to stop playing it uh they show what happens to children they show what happens to families i mean

00:19:41.400 it's it's hiroshima and nagasaki on a scale that we can't even comprehend and so for anyone to be so

00:19:49.020 callously insane as to suggest that we this could be survivable for us and this is a private military

00:19:56.960 officer that apparently some of this needs to be said again because this is a situation where there

00:20:02.080 are secondary consequences what does that mean you have to think beyond step one the united states

00:20:08.240 russia china north korea perhaps have something called second second launch capability what does that

00:20:15.160 mean second strike capability that idea that's your nuclear submarines so a nuclear missile submarine

00:20:20.940 if washington dc is taken out let's say moscow takes out dc right well dc is gone what do you do

00:20:26.620 does the country lose no because you always have your ballistic missile submarines your boomers out 0.98

00:20:33.120 on patrol whether it's out of bremerton washington or kings bay georgia they exist to protect washington dc

00:20:41.300 on a regular base every single day of the week from nuclear strike because they provide second

00:20:47.320 strike capability here's the issue with that the russians have that too the chinese have that too

00:20:53.380 so if you think that you're just going to take them out on the first try are you sure you're going to get

00:20:58.200 all their submarines do you know where they all are are you positive and this is what gets you into

00:21:03.120 mutually destroyed destruction but it's incredible to me that everyone who lived through that era seems to

00:21:08.500 have forgotten these very important lessons no no that's totally right and i think that what we've

00:21:13.760 seen in this conflict is that as a conventional force russia is not that effective or it certainly

00:21:19.480 can't really threaten the united states i don't think in conventional terms and i think russia understands

00:21:24.640 that which is why they've invested so much in their nuclear arsenal that that is where a lot of

00:21:30.120 russian r d and money has gone into is into developing nuclear capabilities uh that that rival uh the united

00:21:37.720 states or you know are or even superior to the united states perhaps uh there are certainly more

00:21:42.620 uh tactical nuclear warheads in uh in russia's hands than in any other country uh in europe so they

00:21:50.500 already have that advantage right uh in other words russia understands that like if if push comes to

00:21:56.140 shove we can't we can't go toe-to-toe with nato so we have to resort to nukes but like you said we're 0.73

00:22:01.680 just being really just we're being very uh cavalier about this like well let's see if russia is

00:22:05.920 actually going to pull the trigger maybe we shouldn't actually see if if russia is willing

00:22:10.660 to go that far but everything that the west uh is doing you know so-called liberal democracies are

00:22:17.460 doing is putting russia in a position where that might actually be the thing that has to resort to

00:22:22.700 because again the consensus right now is that nothing short of regime change is acceptable

00:22:29.480 well so here's and and and this is the the issue when it comes to russian military doctrine so the

00:22:36.400 united states military doctrine when it comes to the use of nuclear weapons it's whether we're

00:22:41.240 whether we've been struck first obviously um or if if they're or if we believe a strike is is imminent

00:22:48.580 right so with russia it's not that russia has stated in their doctrine that they will use nuclear

00:22:56.100 weapons to include tactical nukes tactical nuke by the way it's it's a low low yield so we're not

00:23:01.420 talking about your megatons we're talking about maybe half a kilo we're talking about these these

00:23:07.200 smaller weapons that have the ability to wipe out say maybe one block of a city or uh one strategic

00:23:13.740 unit somewhere on the battlefield and just completely devastate them so what what russia's doctrine is

00:23:19.760 is that if they are facing the collapse of the state then they will use nuclear weapons this is

00:23:26.380 written to their doctrine it's been in there for decades well of course russia is going to define their

00:23:32.100 state as their regime they're going to define that as as putin and his uh his courtiers and his advisors

00:23:39.460 the regime that's in place now so if they feel that their regime is threatened the direct um the direct

00:23:46.960 power over russia they will use nuclear weapons that's not what's in the best interest of anybody 0.76

00:23:53.660 and so so pedro let's let's shift gears here a little bit and say what's the so what here what

00:23:59.520 what is the interest of this to whether you call it the global american empire whether you call it nato

00:24:05.380 whether you call it the west why are we pushing so hard to continue the escalation what is that what is

00:24:11.840 the game so i think that countries like russia that are kind of they they act as like blind spots

00:24:21.420 in the globalist american empire which is to say that there are places that are just kind of beyond

00:24:26.000 the reach of the regime right there are places that are unreconstructed and that's not to say that

00:24:30.540 russia has like a superior model of governance than you know than the united states or germany or france

00:24:35.860 whatever but it's just a a system that is beyond the control right and i think that just that

00:24:42.920 poses a kind of existential threat to western elites because it shows that it's possible to evade that

00:24:50.480 kind of domination and it might give people in other countries ideas like it seems to have i you know i

00:24:56.760 think that the the election that you saw in italy is somehow connected to all this although the new

00:25:01.640 prime minister maloney actually is very uh aligned with u.s foreign policy the the policies that she

00:25:08.580 ran on i mean there were a complete rejection of everything that that defines western liberal

00:25:13.420 democracies you're talking about a a platform that uh puts italian nationalism ahead of all other

00:25:20.320 interests that puts the interests of the real italian people and their actual country over the interests of 0.53

00:25:25.800 everything else i mean that that's why you had this kind of hysterical reaction to the election in

00:25:31.180 right that's exactly right and i think that russia again is the same thing it might not be a model

00:25:37.540 like we obviously as americans we don't want to emulate russia but just the fact that it exists

00:25:42.020 and it refuses to be dominated in senses western elites because it might give other people in other

00:25:49.440 countries ideas that we don't have to live like this i think that's perhaps you don't have to live

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00:26:33.800 elon musk because as we've seen in the texts elon is reading revolver news so we need to know

00:26:40.760 what's up with that and maybe darren can give us some insight

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00:29:55.100 this is jack posobik i am the host of human events daily filling in stephen k bannon is on

00:30:06.080 assignment for us but we've been having a discussion with senator mastriano about what's going on on the

00:30:12.440 ground in pennsylvania we had pedro gonzalez on talking about the question of are we at the brink

00:30:17.500 of armageddon as president biden tells us but perhaps there is someone who could help stave

00:30:22.860 off armageddon for a little bit and is that man the unlikeliest of all potential candidates

00:30:29.700 mr elon musk not sure but it's interesting question and so there's someone that we all know

00:30:36.600 who got inside elon musk's head wrote an article which was actually read by elon musk and leaked

00:30:43.200 text messages that came out in his lawsuit with twitter and that was none other than darren beady

00:30:47.900 of revolver news so i wanted to bring on darren to get his take on all things elon and uh just start

00:30:55.900 off darren when you first wrote that article about elon purchasing twitter did you have any inside

00:31:00.780 knowledge inside baseball that um you know that this was coming or was that just you sort of reading

00:31:06.180 the tea leaves just uh just intuition just kind of something floating around and the timing was

00:31:13.880 really auspicious the timing was exactly right and exactly aligned to um you know the uh publicity of

00:31:23.720 his initial intention to get twitter then of course we did just a real analysis a real breakdown

00:31:30.920 battle of this uh the fight of the century it was called um and an article just goes in pretty

00:31:37.680 pretty uh good detail on what to expect from the regime in terms of backlash to elon's uh attempt to

00:31:45.660 get twitter because initially you know i don't have such a good theory of mind uh for elon unfortunately

00:31:54.080 despite the fact that he's a revolver reader so he's he's he's probably just a little bit less

00:32:00.160 informed than your average war room viewer who's been reading revolver for a long time elon's sort

00:32:06.600 of catching up so i'm glad to see that but i didn't have a great theory of left to get him here in the

00:32:11.780 posse he'll be in the live chat exactly um you know it seemed to me frankly that in a lot of domains

00:32:19.260 he's he's a little bit uh naive and that might surprise people of course he's tremendously successful

00:32:24.900 he's tremendously talented and focused and everything but the the the the mechanism of

00:32:31.300 his success was really kind of swimming with the current of the regime and using that to construct

00:32:37.540 a narrative behind his products and companies so for instance tesla really rode the sort of

00:32:43.580 environmentalism angle that's totally in line with you know a lot of the dominant ideology you have

00:32:50.560 to have very friendly relationship with the government for them to effectively outsource

00:32:55.420 nasa to you which is essentially what spacex is doing um more competently than nasa so so much of what

00:33:03.500 he's doing and not just him but anyone operating at a certain level within tech you basically have to be

00:33:10.540 friends with the government because of what big tech is at that level what big tech is is um essentially

00:33:17.960 um an instrument that can be used by the united states government for national security purposes

00:33:25.280 and when we get to twitter it's crucially so because twitter as the global public square

00:33:32.240 imagine the national security advantage of being able to control what narratives take off and what

00:33:39.420 narratives get crushed on the global public square not only to facilitating efforts for some kind of

00:33:46.880 proxy rebel group overseas whose narratives and cause you want to amplify and there are many such

00:33:52.740 conflicts around the globe in which the united states is involved but more crucially and i would say

00:33:58.860 darkly it is a huge advantage on a domestic level and as we all seen the big theme of the past several

00:34:06.360 years has been the reorientation of the national security state domestically trump was their national

00:34:12.880 security threat they zapped him from twitter just like they would some authoritarian leader um overseas that

00:34:19.740 they wanted to suppress and so all of this was built into the meaning of what twitter was and it wasn't

00:34:27.000 clear to me initially that elon musk understood the um the you know the storm that he was inviting by

00:34:36.980 stepping into you uh you you you recently referred to it as the uh the pain box from the uh the novel

00:34:43.360 dune where uh you know they they conduct this this trial um you know to see who can withstand their their

00:34:49.600 hand in the pain box the longest and it's tough you know you've been in it i've been in it and you know

00:34:57.000 it for for someone it's just to operate at the highest level in the united states it's like in china if

00:35:04.780 you're not friendly with the communist party you get jack mod and if you're not obsequious to the

00:35:12.060 dominant ideologies and narratives of the regime um you can get elon musk now there's a big question

00:35:20.080 mark up here because you know i've been celebrating elon when it looks like he was moving in the right

00:35:25.860 direction and i've been critical and even insulting toward him when it looks like he was moving in the

00:35:31.740 wrong direction it seemed to me initially that elon was thinking okay i'm gonna do this and then he just

00:35:37.460 got a little inkling of the type of reaction that you get when you challenge the system with that you

00:35:44.300 know at that high stakes level and he was like okay maybe this is not for me tail between the legs

00:35:51.100 head down maybe he's just content being you know multi-billionaire but with no power effectively

00:35:57.940 i call it like glorified it support for the regime you know maybe he's comfortable in that it support

00:36:05.040 role he's happy with his billions and he doesn't want to make a greater mark on history but recent

00:36:11.000 events show that maybe he's reassessed his position so i would like yeah the the scoop that steve bannon had

00:36:20.520 on the show here a couple of days ago i think it was yesterday actually was that according to his

00:36:26.420 sources and steve does have good sources with elon i can confirm that he says that twitter at one point

00:36:33.840 went to elon and offered to drop the price um so of course elon makes this huge push this week to say

00:36:41.680 i will buy twitter outright at the full price let's drop the case let's move forward steve says that the

00:36:47.140 backstory there is that twitter went to elon and said we'll drop the price but no trump no right wing

00:36:56.140 and you have to keep the management elon turns around and says no i want the whole thing and we

00:37:04.840 i think everybody knows there's going to be mass layoffs when he purchases the thing and he's already

00:37:09.440 said again then we get this concurrent with the text messages coming out that he says not only do we want

00:37:15.520 to bring trump back we want to permanently permanent uh excuse me restore everyone who was permanently

00:37:24.300 banned so a blanket amnesty for bands and then worst of all he's reading revolver right exactly no and

00:37:34.900 these are very encouraging signs and you know it's important not to prematurely celebrate here because

00:37:42.700 there are a number of remaining open questions one is the open question of it is musk actually

00:37:48.440 actually going to go through with this is this going to be a successful purchase number two to what

00:37:54.360 extent would elon be able to restore a free speech environment on twitter bring back banned accounts

00:38:02.800 it all sounds nice in theory but again can he withstand the pain box of oh i just brought this back

00:38:09.060 this banned account and then there's just a cacophony of saying oh how dare you bring back this person

00:38:14.240 who said this this this this this do you support you know racism sexism anti-semitism misogyny

00:38:20.020 transphobia and the whole thing can can can he withstand that pain box and thirdly assuming that

00:38:26.960 he's in battle mode and really wants to read go for the glory option rather than the glorified it

00:38:32.800 key support for the regime option can he deal with what the regime throws at because the regime has

00:38:38.780 a lot of tools at its disposal and elon despite his considerable wealth his really overwhelming wealth

00:38:45.840 uh there's only so much you can do in certain terms of translating that to power at this level so

00:38:52.200 can he survive what the regime is prepared to throw at him if indeed he's on the battle footing

00:38:58.400 and he's committed to restoring free speech on the global public square because yeah as as uh

00:39:06.920 but i was just going to add that as as machiavelli wrote in the uh in the prince that um uh for a

00:39:15.140 prince to remain a prince should he commit atrocities commit them all at once and then no more so if he

00:39:21.380 were to do all this and be successful do all of it at once that would be my recommendation do all of it

00:39:26.520 at once so that it's too fast for them to respond to any one person at a time and by that i mean james

00:39:32.420 o'keefe i mean alex jones i mean of course uh steve bannon the war room platform uh donald trump whoever

00:39:39.260 it may be bring them all back at once and then there's no way for you to stop this and i've also

00:39:44.700 heard that the one of the things they're looking at potentially is a a rumble based um regulation policy

00:39:53.260 so you're essentially your regulations would be along the lines of if it's explicit hate against

00:39:58.760 a you know any one ethnic group then we will uh target that or obviously specific calls for violence 0.99

00:40:05.460 and criminal activity and these such things but for the vast majority of the rest of it that they are

00:40:09.840 going to completely disempower the uh of your favorite uh tribe on twitter the misinformation and

00:40:17.320 disinformation experts and completely remove twitter from the business of determining what is true and

00:40:23.380 what is false in reality well i mean if that's so that's an existential threat to the regime i mean

00:40:30.860 the regime that we live in that i call the globalist american empire um is utterly dependent on

00:40:38.900 censorship it's utterly dependent on controlling a narrative because it's utterly dependent on manifest

00:40:45.120 lies and i as much power as the regime has i don't think the regime is weak but as much power as it has

00:40:52.480 i simply don't think it's sustainable for more than six months in a censorship-free environment

00:40:58.960 on big tech and on the internet that's how dependent is on lies and for that reason it's an existential

00:41:05.720 fight and so in a weird way like hearkening back to the geopolitical analysis about russia like

00:41:12.040 russia's russia's russia's stake in um in you know its own uh territories its own sort of uh region

00:41:21.500 that's existential that region is not existential to us the way that it is to russia so at least in that

00:41:27.980 critical sense russia has um an advantage in conflict and it's kind of the same way with respect to the

00:41:36.980 regime free speech is an existential threat to the regime whereas for elon musk it's just kind of

00:41:43.880 something really amazing that he might be able to do and so the calculus there really kind of

00:41:50.760 militates in favor of the regime going all out pulling out all the stops it needs to to prevent this

00:41:57.780 from happening you saw an interesting confluence of events as well this week with elon because

00:42:04.420 it seemed as though the news about him moving forward with twitter happened concurrently with

00:42:12.480 this peace plan that he broached on twitter this idea of a potential mediated um conflict resolution

00:42:21.580 between ukraine and russia um put up a twitter poll on it which was immediately brigaded by a series of

00:42:29.100 uh artificial amplification and bots and he was absolutely mocked scorned and ridiculed by many

00:42:38.740 members of the establishment certainly the ukrainian government came after him including the president

00:42:42.880 and we're also hearing may not be related but we're also hearing that there's some outages of the star

00:42:48.780 link system on the battlefield in ukraine at the moment do you think that in in and again we're you

00:42:54.920 know we're sort of playing um remote uh psychiatrist here but do you think that in in elon's mind that

00:43:01.620 that any of this might be linked well i'm sure like as a theoretical matter it is linked and and again he's

00:43:09.380 starting to understand what the stakes are but it also underscores what he's up against like the star

00:43:15.160 link is a perfect example of star link is basically an instrument of united states uh foreign policy

00:43:23.520 uh there's united states supported protest movements like uh for instance what's going on in iran and

00:43:30.940 you know he's expected to do that but what happens if he uses star link to the advantage or just at

00:43:37.400 least to create a level playing field with groups that aren't supported by the united states and the

00:43:42.740 fact that it's down in ukraine for now um who knows what you know what's behind that it's probably an

00:43:48.640 innocent explanation um i would imagine but it underscores this role as it support for the regime

00:43:56.200 they're saying hey hey it guy our our star link system is down over the place where the u.s government

00:44:02.900 has you know interests in in in helping this particular group out what's going on and so um it

00:44:10.080 really shows like how much of the the legend of elon musk how much of this creation of elon musk and all

00:44:18.000 his success is really inextricably intertwined with being on good terms with the government and the

00:44:24.440 regime and so is it even possible for him to step outside of that box and if so how much and if so

00:44:31.640 does he have the stuff that it takes to really survive outside of that protective bubble that you get

00:44:38.820 when your whole existence is contingent on cooperative relationship with the regime those are the big

00:44:45.180 questions that remain and a lot wraps a lot is wrapped up in the balance of that because as i've

00:44:50.820 said the question of free speech is existential if we have free speech on the internet on a platform as

00:44:58.360 meaningful as twitter the regime simply cannot survive well i think that's what you're seeing as well now

00:45:05.020 too because uh elon musk not only does he have these uh businesses not only does he have this leverage in

00:45:12.680 terms keep in mind right you know this is sort of that uh that um you know that uh old saying about

00:45:18.240 you know if the if the mafia owes you a thousand dollars you have a problem if the mafia owes you

00:45:22.380 a hundred million dollars they have a problem um and then if if elon musk is their only ability

00:45:29.600 to service satellites the international space system um it seems as though space i mean there's some

00:45:36.800 competitors there's there's bezos has his um his uh flights up there as well if elon musk is providing

00:45:43.040 these cars that were providing this is he but he also has his the sort of the people that listen to

00:45:49.180 him this uh this vast middle so there's there's a certain group of people in this country that they're

00:45:54.240 more in tuned with say the joe rogan's the dave port noise and you and i spoke about this uh before

00:46:02.020 an interview we're talking about sort of the man cave you know type uh lifestyle and that's but they

00:46:08.560 do have you know a keen understanding of you know they might listen to alex friedman or they might

00:46:13.320 listen to uh uh the huberman lab or elon musk and they say well that's not political those are just

00:46:18.480 normal guys and so there's a huge amount of people in this country that have elon's ear so if you've got

00:46:26.340 groups like the war room if you've got the the sort of centrist podcast um you know listeners

00:46:33.300 whatever the whatever the best term for it is and then all of those sides joining together to say

00:46:39.760 we don't need to do these things even this is why by the way to your point even elon musk putting up a

00:46:46.280 twitter poll saying should we continue this war or not is an existential threat to the regime it's not

00:46:53.940 because of uh the question being asked it's because of who's asking it and how many people are listening

00:46:59.020 you know that's absolutely true he has a tremendous amount of clout he he's there's a reason that i've

00:47:07.500 described him previously as one of the handful of live players on the planet he's a live player

00:47:12.540 therefore what he does is incredibly meaningful and that's why in my own you know little way i try to

00:47:19.960 do my best to encourage him when he's moving in the right direction and to criticize him sometimes

00:47:25.460 really harshly when he's moving in the wrong direction because he's one of the very very few

00:47:29.520 people whose actions actually matter and who can make a true difference uh as to the configuration on

00:47:36.740 the chessboard right now between uh the regime and the and and the american citizens who deserve a lot

00:47:44.040 more than what the regime is offering them so it's uh it's a difficult road i mean all of these things

00:47:51.580 that make someone respectable that go into the image of someone like musk that have contributed

00:47:56.960 to the influence that he has over these centrist types again i it's a question how much of that is

00:48:05.680 contingent on the more or less um friendly position that he enjoyed with respect to the regime

00:48:14.020 and how well that's right and you and you've already started to see some of the attacks um um

00:48:19.960 the of course the the former workers the the female employees with stories that suddenly start

00:48:26.060 coming you saw this with trump as well when he came off the the bench so to say and stepped onto the

00:48:31.500 the playing field this you saw that you've seen it with with everything they do with steve badden to

00:48:36.960 try to stop him to try to lock him up perp walk him in front of the in front of the crowds to show

00:48:42.360 people that you cannot listen to this man this man is dangerous but at the same time um you know when

00:48:48.420 you cut off someone's tongue it shows the world that you're afraid of what they have to say and so

00:48:53.200 people can say i think i really do think that there are people who can see this for what it is and so

00:48:58.480 those types of attacks aren't effective but what they will also do and we've got about two minutes left

00:49:03.080 i i've said this from the start they will go for tesla they will go for spacex they will go for

00:49:08.320 starlink they will move to quasi national nationalization of these types of things if

00:49:13.880 they have to they will find other people to take control of them they'll move him out of positions

00:49:18.060 of power they'll go certainly they'll go after his uh his stock positions and try because his the vast

00:49:23.980 majority of his wealth is tied into his stock and so it's actually quite vulnerable um so there's a lot

00:49:30.280 of potential pain points and of course you brought them up in your in your piece going into elon about

00:49:34.940 this but we've got about a minute left what's on the other side though what if he's successful what

00:49:41.380 if dare we ask the question he's actually successful in restoring freedom of speech well if he pulls it

00:49:48.980 off and i've said this and it would be i would say i will go out on a limb and say it if he actually

00:49:55.700 pulls it off which is a tremendous if it's a huge if it will be more significant than the 2016

00:50:04.900 presidential victory of trump which i think is enormously significant this will be more

00:50:09.740 significant than that because it's a precondition for future political victories it's a precondition

00:50:16.880 for everything that's why the speech on the internet is so essential and the regime is smart enough that

00:50:22.780 literally the day after trump won in 2016 the entire c-suite of google basically came together and said

00:50:29.580 we can't have this free internet thing precisely right darren coming up on the end of the show darren

00:50:35.720 beattie revolver.news is the site darren thank you for your insights and for your service to your

00:50:41.900 country and to people around the world that actually want to do something like the people of this audience

00:50:47.500 who don't just want to sit back and be passive and go silently into the night they want to fight back

00:50:53.100 my name is jack posovic i'm the host of human events daily make sure to follow us every single day

00:50:58.360 signing off ladies and gentlemen you have my permission

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