Bannon's War Room - October 25, 2022


WarRoom Battleground EP 166： Fauci Under Fire, And What Is Next For The Trials To Come

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Steve Bannon
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Hunter Biden Natalie G. Winters Bradley Thayer Steve Getter Ed Dowd Anthony Fauci Peter Navarro Alfonso VI Joe Biden Jim Banks Raymond Ibrahim Jeffrey Gedman Nancy Pelosi Stalin Lin Chao Han Warroom Battleground Julie Abramowitz Merrick Garland Rabin Ibrahim and 19 more
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Stephen K. Bannon breaks down the Bank of England's monetary policy announcement, the new British Prime Minister, Theresa May, and what it means for the economy and the world at large. He also takes a look at the impact of the Trump administration's tax cuts and infrastructure spending cuts on the economy.

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00:00:00.000 This is what you're fighting for.
00:00:14.760 I mean, every day you're out there.
00:00:17.480 What they're doing is blowing people off.
00:00:20.940 If you continue to look the other way and shut up,
00:00:23.600 then the oppressors, the authoritarians,
00:00:26.160 get total control and total power.
00:00:27.800 Because this is just like in Arizona.
00:00:30.760 This is just like in Georgia.
00:00:31.960 It's another element that backs them into a quarter
00:00:34.780 and shows their lies and misrepresentations.
00:00:37.040 This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged.
00:00:39.320 As we've told you, this is the fight.
00:00:41.220 All this nonsense, all this spin,
00:00:43.420 they can't handle the truth.
00:00:45.140 War Room, Battleground.
00:00:46.940 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:00:50.100 This is because basically this is him trying to explain a policy
00:00:53.220 that at its core is a paradox.
00:00:55.200 Both addressing financial stability,
00:00:57.500 allowing some sort of easing,
00:00:59.400 unwinding of positions that are untenable in the current regime,
00:01:02.700 while also fighting inflation,
00:01:04.660 using very similar types of tools in terms of raising rates.
00:01:08.060 It is mind-spinning.
00:01:09.260 I can see why they're very,
00:01:10.540 very sensitive about the concept of fiscal dominance right now.
00:01:14.220 I can see why they are.
00:01:15.100 Almost immediately, the questions were asked at the Bank of England.
00:01:17.480 Will they accommodate what this government is going to do?
00:01:20.020 And when they first came up with the guilt market operation,
00:01:23.100 they were accused of just that,
00:01:24.920 pandering, accommodating what fiscal policymakers had decided to do.
00:01:28.960 So I think it's really, really difficult for them to do now.
00:01:31.560 And I think that's why we're seeing the kind of language,
00:01:33.920 the approach that we've seen from Governor Bailey.
00:01:35.580 That's my guess.
00:01:36.360 I can't get inside his head.
00:01:37.940 The sense I get from him and the way he spoke yesterday
00:01:40.180 just sounded like a man who was very,
00:01:42.180 very sensitive to the idea
00:01:43.420 that they might be contributing to so-called fiscal dominance.
00:01:46.260 There is an argument that for decades,
00:01:48.220 central banks helped offset a lack of action from fiscal policymakers,
00:01:52.600 a lack of action from Washington, D.C.
00:01:54.480 For a decade.
00:01:54.980 Of the parliament.
00:01:56.040 And this is a question now of,
00:01:58.320 can the central banks pull back
00:02:00.200 and stop giving the fiscal policymakers a pass
00:02:03.220 and risk financial instability
00:02:05.300 and risk perhaps disrupting things to such an extent
00:02:08.680 that imperils the basic functionings of a capitalistic society?
00:02:12.840 And this is going to become an increasing debate
00:02:15.520 in the months to come.
00:02:16.280 There's something else that's going on here.
00:02:17.860 I have just been to Buckingham Palace
00:02:20.160 and accepted His Majesty the King's invitation
00:02:23.840 to form a government in his name.
00:02:28.360 It is only right to explain why I'm standing here
00:02:33.080 as your new prime minister.
00:02:35.180 Right now, our country is facing a profound economic crisis.
00:02:44.960 The aftermath of COVID still lingers.
00:02:48.940 Putin's war in Ukraine has destabilised energy markets
00:02:53.320 and supply chains the world over.
00:02:56.360 I want to pay tribute to my predecessor, Liz Truss.
00:03:02.320 She was not wrong to want to improve growth in this country.
00:03:07.940 It is a noble aim.
00:03:11.240 And I admired her restlessness to create change.
00:03:15.580 But some mistakes were made.
00:03:21.000 Not born of ill will or bad intentions.
00:03:25.600 Quite the opposite, in fact.
00:03:28.180 But mistakes nonetheless.
00:03:32.160 And I have been elected as leader of my party
00:03:35.500 and your prime minister, in part, to fix them.
00:03:40.820 And that work begins immediately.
00:03:48.120 Okay, welcome.
00:03:49.020 It's Tuesday, 25 October, in the year of our Lord, 2022.
00:03:52.700 Let me tell you, setting the entire framework,
00:03:55.880 you've got these big debates tonight in Pennsylvania
00:03:58.840 and in Michigan and New York,
00:04:00.920 these huge industrial states in the Midwest and the Northeast.
00:04:06.460 But the framework of what we've got is an economic,
00:04:09.940 a global economic and financial crisis.
00:04:12.420 And some people are being straight with people
00:04:14.040 and other people are not.
00:04:15.640 Right there, you saw Julie Abramowitz. 0.99
00:04:17.860 I keep saying that's the most important
00:04:19.360 two minutes in all television this year,
00:04:22.400 where somebody finally spoke the truth
00:04:24.800 about this thing called physical domination,
00:04:27.020 where you've had decades of these politicians.
00:04:32.100 And remember, it's the Conservative Party
00:04:34.500 just got turfed out there by the capital markets,
00:04:36.600 really the hedge funds.
00:04:38.660 You've had this fiscal domination,
00:04:40.480 this irresponsible spending, spending, spending,
00:04:42.940 and you've had the central banks
00:04:44.300 that have worked in unison to support it.
00:04:46.020 And now the due bill is here
00:04:48.280 and the people throughout the world,
00:04:50.240 particularly the people that didn't participate,
00:04:53.000 that didn't participate in the rise of the assets
00:04:56.520 because you're not the dominant class.
00:05:00.300 You're not the ruling class.
00:05:01.780 You were left out of that.
00:05:02.820 Well, guess what?
00:05:03.300 You're going to end up paying for this.
00:05:04.300 I want to go to Ed Dowd,
00:05:05.900 one of the smartest guys,
00:05:07.060 a former portfolio manager
00:05:09.000 and one of the biggest asset managers in the world,
00:05:11.700 a very smart guy,
00:05:13.460 has been doing tremendous work
00:05:15.060 about the vaccine,
00:05:16.820 about the COVID lockdowns,
00:05:19.040 about mortality rates.
00:05:20.280 He's really gotten into the numbers
00:05:21.620 because he can understand
00:05:22.520 how Wall Street will respond to all this
00:05:24.960 with pension funds,
00:05:26.460 with the insurance companies, all of it.
00:05:28.740 But Ed, you've got a fairly grim outlook
00:05:31.280 outlook on the global economy.
00:05:33.260 I wanted to bring you in
00:05:34.080 because tonight's debates in,
00:05:37.180 and we had it all day long in MSNBC,
00:05:39.340 you know, they've got reporters over and say,
00:05:41.380 well, how is the democracy plan?
00:05:43.460 Nobody's talking about it.
00:05:44.200 How is abortion plan?
00:05:45.160 They're really not talking about it.
00:05:46.620 They're talking about kitchen table issues
00:05:48.300 of inflation, the economy,
00:05:50.660 and now people are starting to worry about
00:05:52.440 are their jobs going to be there.
00:05:54.260 So Ed, walk me through your assessment of,
00:05:57.200 and you just saw Sunak,
00:05:58.820 the new prime minister,
00:06:00.380 who is stepping into the middle of a firestorm
00:06:03.060 in the United Kingdom.
00:06:04.460 But I keep using this as an example
00:06:06.360 to Republican politicians.
00:06:08.600 You're one or two moves away
00:06:11.160 that are not thought through
00:06:12.400 and not backed up by mathematics
00:06:14.640 and understanding what reality is
00:06:16.920 to being, to leading your party
00:06:19.200 to get absolutely crushed.
00:06:20.940 Ed Dowd, your assessment.
00:06:23.280 Well, the cold open was very telling,
00:06:27.580 and I liked what she said about central banks
00:06:31.100 basically propping up the fiscal side
00:06:33.600 of the equation for the last 12 years.
00:06:35.900 And there's been unprecedented coordination
00:06:38.460 between central banks.
00:06:40.240 And now the bills come due,
00:06:42.240 and what you saw in the UK several weeks ago
00:06:44.080 with their pension fund crisis
00:06:45.380 is the beginning of every man for himself.
00:06:48.200 That's going to lead to currency wars,
00:06:49.720 which we're already seeing,
00:06:50.980 the strength of the dollar being,
00:06:52.460 you know, the cleanest sheet,
00:06:54.420 or the cleanest shirt in the dirty laundry.
00:06:56.760 And so the coordination is over.
00:07:00.020 And now we're going to see
00:07:01.120 what usually happens in these types of things
00:07:03.340 is kinetic action at some point.
00:07:05.520 But let's just go back
00:07:06.580 to the great financial crisis.
00:07:08.920 Ever since the financial crisis,
00:07:12.340 the central banks working in conjunction
00:07:13.860 with the governments have basically created
00:07:15.840 a zombie economy globally.
00:07:18.140 And those who got wealthy
00:07:19.640 were those who were closest to the printing machine.
00:07:24.300 C-suite executives, hedge fund managers,
00:07:27.860 asset managers, real estate developers.
00:07:30.420 But if you were in the real economy
00:07:32.000 doing real things,
00:07:33.140 you've been falling behind for the last 12 years.
00:07:36.120 And that's why the populist national movement
00:07:38.020 has been rising.
00:07:39.240 There's been a game afoot,
00:07:41.300 and the game is coming to an end.
00:07:43.860 And all you need to understand
00:07:45.760 to see what's going on
00:07:46.720 is the central bankers and politicians
00:07:48.240 will use every excuse to blame
00:07:50.300 what's going to come on that
00:07:53.300 rather than themselves.
00:07:54.360 And the blame lies at their feet.
00:07:55.900 Bottom line.
00:07:56.460 When you say blame,
00:07:59.920 what do you anticipate?
00:08:01.060 Let's take the lab experiment right now.
00:08:04.460 The Petri dish is the United Kingdom
00:08:06.320 because that's the United States.
00:08:07.660 Now, look, we have very different economic,
00:08:10.920 obviously, firepower and strength
00:08:13.420 and size and scale.
00:08:14.800 But they've gone to this kind of radical
00:08:18.340 net zero carbon energy policy
00:08:20.920 that's shutting themselves off.
00:08:22.140 They've had declining productivity
00:08:24.560 and really GDP, I guess, per capita
00:08:26.660 for decades and decades and decades
00:08:28.600 as their elites look the other way.
00:08:30.840 Now they try to come in
00:08:31.940 and go back to the Thatcher playbook
00:08:33.640 of tax cuts and deregulation
00:08:35.320 when they're running these massive budget deficits,
00:08:38.380 not just from COVID.
00:08:39.420 Everybody tries to blame it on COVID.
00:08:41.520 COVID's part of it,
00:08:42.420 but they just have a nanny state 1.00
00:08:45.420 that's in everywhere.
00:08:47.020 They're just too overextended
00:08:48.280 and they don't have the tax revenue
00:08:49.680 or the tax base to support their spending.
00:08:53.380 So them as an example,
00:08:55.460 how do you look at them
00:08:56.880 and how do you extrapolate that out
00:08:58.400 to the United States,
00:08:59.280 which is all the articles now
00:09:01.720 in The Hill, in Politico,
00:09:05.380 are talking about the debt ceiling,
00:09:06.880 the big fight that's going to come
00:09:08.100 after the Democrats get turfed out
00:09:10.180 over the debt ceiling.
00:09:11.460 Ed Dowd.
00:09:12.820 Well, the problem that the UK has
00:09:15.380 is the problem that we have,
00:09:16.600 but it's going to come to us last.
00:09:18.660 They have a debt problem.
00:09:21.740 That debt problem is insolvency at some point.
00:09:25.320 So what people don't seem to understand
00:09:27.140 and most of the world doesn't understand
00:09:28.660 is that the social contract has been broken.
00:09:30.600 So all those pensions that need to be paid,
00:09:33.860 they'll get paid either they default on the pensions
00:09:37.140 or they inflate the pensions away,
00:09:39.780 meaning you get paid your fixed payment,
00:09:43.280 but it's worthless because inflation is so high.
00:09:45.960 And what we saw a couple of weeks ago
00:09:48.460 was what's been the low interest rate policy
00:09:52.380 for the last 12 years come home to roost.
00:09:54.320 These pensions needed to meet their obligations,
00:09:56.740 so they used leverage and juicing of returns
00:10:00.600 to get the return goal they needed.
00:10:02.900 And that's now,
00:10:04.360 there's a giant margin call going on
00:10:06.680 because they didn't ever expect
00:10:08.220 that this would be occurring.
00:10:09.740 And so that's why the UK had to pull a 180.
00:10:12.200 They bailed out their pension funds, basically.
00:10:14.720 And, you know, that's going to start happening globally.
00:10:17.580 And it's just all going to come unwound
00:10:19.360 in a either slow or fast fashion.
00:10:22.060 And the happy talk on the economy
00:10:24.120 we're going to see this Friday
00:10:25.280 with a GDP number around two plus percent 0.98
00:10:28.300 is all garbage. 0.87
00:10:29.600 I'm looking at Q1 and Q2. 0.99
00:10:31.300 It's going to be a disaster in the US,
00:10:33.560 minus two to 3%, quarter over quarter,
00:10:35.720 with Q2 as the trough.
00:10:37.680 So it's coming here in a minor way.
00:10:40.580 And this is going to unfold over,
00:10:42.200 you know, the next five to 10 years.
00:10:43.800 But it's not good.
00:10:47.580 Oh, you're anticipating
00:10:49.040 there's going to be a big positive,
00:10:51.100 a positive print on GDP.
00:10:53.560 It's not going to be the negative.
00:10:54.500 It's not going to be three quarters in a row negative.
00:10:57.620 No.
00:10:58.260 So it's going to be two plus percent.
00:11:01.460 But that's due to the strong dollar
00:11:03.080 and foreign investment.
00:11:04.220 Consumption is going to be not a big part of that.
00:11:07.460 But looking forward, and that's what we do,
00:11:10.620 Q1 and Q2 are going to be a disaster.
00:11:12.440 And right now, Goldman Sachs will use them
00:11:15.500 as the typical economist
00:11:17.100 is looking at plus one to two percent
00:11:18.700 in Q1 and Q2.
00:11:20.240 The problem here is this.
00:11:21.820 The cake has already been baked.
00:11:23.460 What do I mean by that?
00:11:24.940 The Fed has tightened
00:11:26.200 interest rates considerably.
00:11:29.000 And the Goldman Sachs financial conditions index
00:11:31.140 is up 400 basis points on the year.
00:11:33.740 Every 90 basis points of tightening
00:11:36.040 in the financial conditions
00:11:37.560 is a one to two percent hit to GDP
00:11:41.220 four quarters forward.
00:11:43.020 So that bill is coming due Q1, Q2.
00:11:46.000 It's baked into the cake.
00:11:47.280 There's nothing we can do to avoid it.
00:11:49.180 We're seeing housing starting to roll over.
00:11:52.080 The real economy is a disaster.
00:11:53.940 And there may be a stock market rally
00:11:55.680 because the Fed tried to play some games on Friday.
00:11:58.860 Some of the progressive elements of the Fed
00:12:00.660 to help the Biden administration leaked out on Friday
00:12:03.440 that they're going to do 75 in November
00:12:05.620 and then maybe 50 in December
00:12:07.800 to signal that maybe this is the end
00:12:09.720 of the rate hike cycle.
00:12:10.840 But that gave the markets a little euphoria.
00:12:14.560 So we may see a rally here into the elections
00:12:16.960 because they're doing everything in their power
00:12:18.400 to hold this thing up into the elections.
00:12:20.620 The Bank of Japan on Friday
00:12:22.060 had to come in and do a huge,
00:12:24.080 massive currency intervention,
00:12:26.060 primarily because they're pegged at 25 basis points.
00:12:29.480 And if that peg is lost,
00:12:31.640 bond markets around the world are going to implode.
00:12:35.100 So that's a precarious situation
00:12:36.760 that hedge funds are following.
00:12:38.040 So I suspect it's going to, you know,
00:12:40.700 they're going to try to keep this thing together
00:12:42.180 with, you know, gum and tinfoil and glue
00:12:46.820 and put on a pretty picture before the elections.
00:12:49.540 After that, the real economy will come home to roost
00:12:52.120 and earnings are going to implode
00:12:53.360 next first half of the year.
00:12:57.200 Ed, before I lose you,
00:12:59.400 talk to me about any updates on your,
00:13:01.640 on your studies.
00:13:02.400 Now you get the book coming out
00:13:03.260 on the mortality issue.
00:13:05.260 You've been at the leading thing
00:13:06.180 that something's not right here.
00:13:08.220 Fauci is back on TV this house.
00:13:10.000 They're rolling him back out to push hard,
00:13:13.180 not just the new boosters.
00:13:15.060 And, you know, Biden got his today
00:13:16.820 to push the vax
00:13:18.140 because nobody's really taken the new booster.
00:13:20.460 To also talk about,
00:13:21.580 I think there's a triple threat now coming.
00:13:23.440 They think, you know, COVID,
00:13:25.180 they've got a respiratory disease
00:13:27.060 and the flu are all going to come.
00:13:29.340 And they're trying to pitch this now
00:13:30.680 in the, you know,
00:13:33.060 as fear porn prior to the election.
00:13:35.580 Any updates from you
00:13:36.740 on the mortality situation?
00:13:38.120 So it's running around 10 to 20% globally.
00:13:42.400 We expect it to increase
00:13:43.900 into the flu season
00:13:45.660 as immunity systems are weakened.
00:13:47.680 So excess mortality,
00:13:48.620 we're expecting to rise
00:13:49.900 into this fourth and first quarter.
00:13:54.160 Additionally, as far as I'm concerned,
00:13:56.640 when the book comes out,
00:13:57.520 we'll show it.
00:13:58.180 Basically, it was detrimental
00:13:59.360 to your health to be employed
00:14:00.780 in 2021 and 2022,
00:14:03.080 primarily because of vaccine mandates.
00:14:04.920 A generally much healthier population
00:14:07.700 historically experienced higher mortality
00:14:10.800 than the general overall population
00:14:12.520 and disability like I've never seen before.
00:14:16.140 The working age folks experienced,
00:14:19.760 or not working age,
00:14:20.880 actual employed people,
00:14:22.440 according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics,
00:14:24.440 experienced an increase
00:14:25.680 in their disability rate of 25%
00:14:27.600 versus, you know,
00:14:28.920 8% for the overall U.S. population.
00:14:31.240 So the case has been made.
00:14:33.940 These vaccines need to be pulled.
00:14:36.180 The question now is
00:14:37.160 to get this information out.
00:14:38.500 So that's one thing.
00:14:40.020 The second thing is
00:14:40.720 my partners in my hedge fund
00:14:43.180 are putting on a website
00:14:44.340 all this data.
00:14:45.880 It's going to be free to the world.
00:14:47.460 We're creating the Humanity Project
00:14:49.240 and the Vaccine Damage Project.
00:14:51.520 This is just data-driven.
00:14:53.280 We're going to try to keep our opinions
00:14:54.600 to a minimum
00:14:55.140 and people can grab the data
00:14:56.360 and see for themselves
00:14:57.180 what a disaster this has been globally
00:14:59.020 in Europe, the U.S.
00:15:00.900 We do an extensive study
00:15:02.520 and the Eurostat data,
00:15:03.640 the U.K. data,
00:15:04.400 and the U.S. data.
00:15:05.300 So it'll be there for all to see.
00:15:07.160 And the bottom line is this.
00:15:08.760 In 2021 and 2022,
00:15:11.580 if you were a working age,
00:15:13.520 your excess mortality
00:15:14.760 was above that of 2020.
00:15:17.320 And it shouldn't have been.
00:15:19.380 It just shouldn't have been.
00:15:22.340 What's the timing on the launch here?
00:15:23.860 Because I know our audience
00:15:24.820 would want to be all over it.
00:15:25.740 What's the timing on the launch
00:15:26.780 of the websites?
00:15:28.780 We hope to have...
00:15:31.840 Well, they're going to be in the book.
00:15:33.460 The links are going to be in the book.
00:15:34.940 The book is due out December 10th.
00:15:36.620 Hopefully, fingers crossed.
00:15:38.100 We've got supply chain issues
00:15:39.580 and whatnot.
00:15:40.400 But we hope to go live
00:15:42.660 on that in the next week or two.
00:15:44.340 And then I can come back on
00:15:45.380 and talk about that.
00:15:47.620 Perfect.
00:15:48.060 The book is Cause Unknown,
00:15:49.380 The Epidemic of Sudden Death
00:15:50.540 in 21 and 2022.
00:15:52.700 And we're racing against time
00:15:55.060 to get it out as quickly as possible
00:15:56.460 because we want to basically change
00:15:58.860 the frame of the debate.
00:16:00.540 And the frame of the debate is this.
00:16:01.900 Who cares why it happened
00:16:03.200 or who did it?
00:16:04.300 It's happened.
00:16:05.620 And the data that we have,
00:16:07.520 clearly the global governments
00:16:08.680 have as well.
00:16:09.900 But they don't seem to be
00:16:10.760 doing anything about it.
00:16:11.700 So at this point,
00:16:12.460 there is a cover-up
00:16:13.320 and a crime and negligence.
00:16:15.180 And that is beyond a doubt
00:16:17.020 at this point.
00:16:17.600 Ed Dowd,
00:16:20.960 how do people get to your site,
00:16:22.740 your writings,
00:16:23.800 and you on social media?
00:16:26.400 I'm on Getter,
00:16:27.640 at Edward Dowd.
00:16:29.100 And I have a website called
00:16:30.780 they lied,
00:16:32.040 people died dot com.
00:16:34.100 And when the links go live
00:16:36.420 for the vaccine damage project,
00:16:38.900 I'll get those out as well.
00:16:42.380 Yeah, we'll have you back on for that.
00:16:44.740 Ed Dowd,
00:16:45.460 thank you very much
00:16:46.080 for your market analysis
00:16:47.640 and also for all the great work
00:16:49.060 you're doing on excess mortality.
00:16:51.640 Thank you.
00:16:52.220 Take care, Steve.
00:16:54.780 I want to bring in Natalie,
00:16:56.160 our executive editor
00:16:57.440 and the co-host of The Worm.
00:16:59.140 Hey, Natalie,
00:16:59.860 a couple of things.
00:17:00.500 Number one,
00:17:00.820 the independent newspaper
00:17:02.100 not happy
00:17:04.180 with your inaugural interview
00:17:06.900 yesterday
00:17:07.540 where we talked about Fauci,
00:17:09.400 you talked about issues.
00:17:10.880 And I said,
00:17:11.500 hey,
00:17:12.080 these investigations are coming.
00:17:13.520 They have to understand that.
00:17:14.620 And maybe we've brought it out
00:17:16.120 to the wife and the daughter,
00:17:17.280 but definitely to Fauci.
00:17:18.280 They took a huge headline
00:17:20.600 in the independent newspaper.
00:17:22.400 Bannon says, 0.86
00:17:23.240 Fauci to be hunted. 0.99
00:17:24.560 Fauci family to be hunted.
00:17:26.320 The independents got to,
00:17:27.840 they have to embrace this, Natalie.
00:17:30.340 You agree that
00:17:32.080 that given his performance,
00:17:35.720 that there will be
00:17:36.800 significant and deep
00:17:38.780 and meaningful
00:17:39.500 and fair investigations
00:17:41.200 of Dr. Fauci
00:17:42.560 in the,
00:17:43.240 with the new Congress
00:17:44.080 in the coming year, ma'am?
00:17:46.120 Oh, definitely.
00:17:47.300 And I don't think
00:17:47.980 that we should sell ourselves short
00:17:50.060 by any means
00:17:50.820 in the sense that
00:17:51.760 the more intense
00:17:53.120 and in-depth
00:17:53.900 and unbiased
00:17:54.940 these investigations are,
00:17:56.600 the more information
00:17:57.720 we will actually be able to find
00:17:59.560 because there is such
00:18:00.420 a trove of information,
00:18:02.040 all these roads
00:18:02.700 that lead to the
00:18:03.440 Wuhan Institute of Virology,
00:18:05.140 to the Chinese Communist Party,
00:18:06.760 to gain-of-function research.
00:18:08.220 And if you trace
00:18:08.820 those roads back,
00:18:10.360 the, I would say,
00:18:11.060 kind of sugar daddy
00:18:11.900 of a lot of this research
00:18:12.980 that was going on
00:18:13.980 was Anthony Fauci,
00:18:15.400 of course,
00:18:15.800 given his lead role
00:18:16.740 at the National Institutes
00:18:17.940 of Allergy
00:18:18.520 and Infectious Diseases.
00:18:19.680 It's very, very funny to me
00:18:21.260 that the mainstream media
00:18:22.700 continues to run cover
00:18:24.160 for Anthony Fauci
00:18:25.600 when, in reality,
00:18:26.740 if you look at
00:18:27.300 government databases,
00:18:28.540 you can look at the grants,
00:18:29.640 the millions of dollars
00:18:30.660 that went to the
00:18:31.360 Wuhan Institute of Virology,
00:18:33.400 specifically the bat lady, 0.85
00:18:34.980 Shijun Lee,
00:18:36.160 it's indisputable
00:18:37.520 that Anthony Fauci
00:18:38.580 was behind it.
00:18:39.540 So I really don't understand
00:18:41.220 why the mainstream media
00:18:43.100 refuses to report on that,
00:18:44.700 but instead,
00:18:45.640 the only time they say Fauci,
00:18:47.260 nine times out of ten,
00:18:48.180 it's a name like yours or mine
00:18:49.860 attached to it
00:18:50.680 and criticizing
00:18:51.400 how we actually
00:18:52.400 have the strength
00:18:54.040 to go after someone like him,
00:18:55.540 of course,
00:18:55.860 the highest paid public servant
00:18:57.820 who will continue to get
00:18:59.240 about a $300,000 a year payment
00:19:01.880 once he retires
00:19:03.360 and leaves
00:19:03.880 the National Institutes of Health.
00:19:06.040 But again,
00:19:06.900 these investigations
00:19:07.840 really will find
00:19:09.180 substantive information.
00:19:10.920 I will say,
00:19:11.380 a lot of the deep hard work
00:19:13.180 has already been done
00:19:14.360 in terms of the origins
00:19:16.500 of COVID-19
00:19:17.400 and how Fauci
00:19:18.220 played such a critical role
00:19:19.380 in this,
00:19:19.860 but I think with the power
00:19:21.140 of the subpoena,
00:19:23.340 assuming that groups
00:19:24.180 like EcoHealth Alliance
00:19:25.180 actually comply with them,
00:19:26.480 which they haven't,
00:19:27.640 we'll be able to find out
00:19:28.960 a lot more.
00:19:31.660 I'm going to have
00:19:32.280 Dr. Bradley Thayer
00:19:33.160 here in a moment
00:19:33.840 about a new strategy
00:19:35.400 that he believes
00:19:36.420 is very important
00:19:37.220 to confront Xi
00:19:39.060 and even the consolidation
00:19:41.500 of power under Xi,
00:19:43.320 this kind of new edge
00:19:44.300 they're taking.
00:19:44.840 But I want to go back
00:19:45.980 to something you put up today
00:19:46.960 because the very first thing
00:19:48.580 that happened
00:19:49.160 when Sunak
00:19:50.440 stood in front of
00:19:52.040 10 Downing
00:19:53.460 and actually,
00:19:54.320 you know,
00:19:54.700 took the deck
00:19:56.300 and the con
00:19:56.860 from trust,
00:19:58.120 he was talking about
00:19:58.540 the economic crisis
00:19:59.500 they have.
00:20:01.840 The commentator afterwards,
00:20:03.620 talking to the MSNBC correspondent,
00:20:05.840 the first question she had,
00:20:07.180 she said,
00:20:07.580 well,
00:20:07.760 they had this complicated,
00:20:09.200 very complex economic
00:20:10.960 and financial problem
00:20:12.100 and one of it
00:20:13.120 is actually figuring out
00:20:14.700 what they can afford to spend.
00:20:16.600 Do you think this means
00:20:17.820 they're going to have
00:20:18.800 to make tough choices
00:20:19.660 about Ukraine?
00:20:20.700 This is the top of the mind
00:20:21.780 to MSNBC,
00:20:22.720 Ukraine.
00:20:23.520 And the guy said,
00:20:24.560 you know,
00:20:24.760 it's interesting,
00:20:25.600 that's going to be
00:20:26.240 a very tough sell
00:20:27.060 to the British people
00:20:27.980 because they're looking
00:20:28.580 for a cold winter,
00:20:30.020 inflation's out of control,
00:20:31.180 highest in 40 years,
00:20:32.280 their prices are almost
00:20:33.380 11% price increases.
00:20:35.740 He says,
00:20:36.140 that's going to be
00:20:36.880 a tough sell,
00:20:37.620 but in Biden's
00:20:39.380 congratulatory message
00:20:41.040 to him,
00:20:42.100 he says,
00:20:42.680 we're really looking forward
00:20:43.780 to having a partner
00:20:44.660 here with us on Ukraine.
00:20:45.940 Biden actually mentions it
00:20:47.120 in a three line.
00:20:48.360 Thank you.
00:20:49.120 Talk to me about
00:20:49.740 this investigation
00:20:50.580 that you've started,
00:20:51.780 you've got up now
00:20:52.440 on War Room
00:20:53.020 right now as an exclusive
00:20:54.220 about the Ukraine,
00:20:56.160 ma'am.
00:20:57.460 Yeah,
00:20:57.940 people can go
00:20:58.580 to warroom.org
00:20:59.760 to check it out.
00:21:00.780 We have a lot of reports
00:21:01.760 coming out throughout the day,
00:21:02.980 but I think this one
00:21:03.780 is particularly salient
00:21:05.580 with the current news cycle.
00:21:06.760 And really,
00:21:08.040 it's an example
00:21:08.660 of full-blown
00:21:09.560 information warfare
00:21:10.820 coming out of the Democratic Party
00:21:12.640 really on behalf of Ukraine.
00:21:15.100 What you see here
00:21:16.280 is an individual
00:21:17.060 who used to work
00:21:18.060 or actually still works
00:21:19.000 for Blue Star Strategies,
00:21:20.680 which is a Democratic-run
00:21:21.960 consulting firm
00:21:23.200 that reeks,
00:21:24.200 frankly,
00:21:24.520 of corruption,
00:21:25.300 but particularly tied
00:21:27.340 to Hunter Biden
00:21:28.320 and Burisma.
00:21:29.620 Emails from Hunter Biden's
00:21:30.880 hard drive show
00:21:31.640 that he was
00:21:32.140 an instrumental figure
00:21:33.320 in getting Burisma
00:21:35.220 to decide
00:21:35.880 to hire Blue Star Strategies
00:21:37.700 sort of as a PR firm
00:21:39.240 to help it avoid
00:21:40.640 really any meaningful
00:21:42.080 prosecution
00:21:43.000 or just really
00:21:44.100 being looked into
00:21:44.960 for the corruption
00:21:45.740 that it was engaging in.
00:21:47.580 It was actually,
00:21:48.540 Blue Star Strategies
00:21:49.480 actually was under
00:21:50.380 a Department of Justice probe
00:21:52.120 for engaging
00:21:53.040 in illegal lobbying
00:21:53.960 on behalf of Burisma.
00:21:55.160 So Jeffrey Gedman,
00:21:57.180 who was a senior advisor
00:21:58.560 for Blue Star Strategies,
00:22:00.200 was just appointed
00:22:01.240 by Joe Biden
00:22:02.280 as a nominee
00:22:03.660 to serve
00:22:04.420 on the International
00:22:05.500 Media Advisory Board
00:22:08.100 at the U.S. Agency
00:22:09.260 for Global Media.
00:22:10.760 So people may not know
00:22:11.700 what this board is.
00:22:12.760 It's sort of one of those
00:22:13.620 swampy D.C. organizations
00:22:15.320 that you probably
00:22:16.360 haven't heard of,
00:22:17.040 but it actually
00:22:17.580 is a very powerful group
00:22:19.340 in that it is
00:22:20.000 the sole advisory board
00:22:21.340 to the CEO
00:22:22.100 at the U.S. Agency
00:22:23.860 for Global Media,
00:22:24.860 which uses its
00:22:25.620 nearly billion-dollar budget
00:22:27.240 to run programming
00:22:29.040 including Radio Free Asia,
00:22:30.780 Radio Free Europe,
00:22:32.200 and Voice of America,
00:22:33.200 which reaches
00:22:34.220 hundreds of millions
00:22:35.200 of people
00:22:35.680 across the world
00:22:36.480 each day.
00:22:37.920 But what's really interesting
00:22:39.200 is that this individual,
00:22:40.660 again,
00:22:40.940 not only highly compromised
00:22:42.280 when it comes to his ties
00:22:43.400 to Hunter Biden
00:22:44.120 and Blue Star Strategies,
00:22:45.820 but really for decades
00:22:47.060 has been pushing
00:22:47.840 a hardcore pro-Ukraine line
00:22:50.040 in the American press,
00:22:51.660 always since 2010,
00:22:53.160 trying to get
00:22:54.120 the United States
00:22:55.000 to offer military support,
00:22:57.480 financial support,
00:22:58.380 political support
00:22:59.260 to Ukraine,
00:23:00.640 always attacking Russia 0.97
00:23:01.820 when he has the opportunity,
00:23:03.380 participating in
00:23:04.280 Ukraine-based forums
00:23:05.640 that are really aimed
00:23:07.060 at kind of boosting
00:23:07.960 Ukraine's international
00:23:09.280 profile and image.
00:23:10.820 So I think this is
00:23:11.700 just a perfect example,
00:23:12.960 not only if people
00:23:13.760 are connected to Hunter Biden
00:23:15.140 getting these political
00:23:16.140 appointments within
00:23:17.000 the Biden regime,
00:23:18.460 but really how I think
00:23:19.780 you're seeing a lot
00:23:20.640 of these institutions
00:23:21.800 be used to put out,
00:23:23.960 I mean,
00:23:24.180 let's call it what it is,
00:23:25.040 I think political propaganda
00:23:26.280 in support of Ukraine.
00:23:28.300 Nancy Pelosi just announced
00:23:29.560 that, you know,
00:23:30.460 she'd vow to give
00:23:31.640 even more money to Ukraine
00:23:32.820 by the end of the year.
00:23:34.300 So I think it shows you
00:23:35.360 where the focus
00:23:36.400 of the White House is
00:23:37.960 and the Democratic Party is,
00:23:39.280 and it's Ukraine.
00:23:40.800 It's not Americans, 1.00
00:23:42.060 it's Ukraine.
00:23:43.180 And I think people
00:23:43.780 like Jeffrey Gedman
00:23:44.620 represent how it's
00:23:45.680 always been like that.
00:23:46.600 These globalists
00:23:47.320 have always been
00:23:48.300 looking overseas,
00:23:49.800 trying to find ways
00:23:50.760 to get U.S. taxpayer dollars
00:23:52.480 to help defend the borders
00:23:53.860 of basically every other country
00:23:55.660 except the United States.
00:23:58.680 You know,
00:23:59.260 I noticed on Getter today,
00:24:00.620 I was on my feet
00:24:01.480 and I noticed
00:24:02.000 because I follow you
00:24:03.060 and I noticed
00:24:03.780 how you already
00:24:05.040 linked to the Nancy Pelosi.
00:24:07.520 And this is all about,
00:24:08.580 they're going to get
00:24:09.480 turfed out for a generation.
00:24:11.520 And she's throwing down 0.55
00:24:12.700 already in the lame duck.
00:24:14.200 She's got a huge amount
00:24:15.860 of money she wants 0.99
00:24:16.540 to make sure
00:24:16.940 they get to Ukraine
00:24:17.740 or give her more.
00:24:18.840 It should be noted
00:24:19.580 by the audience yesterday,
00:24:20.580 the progressives put out
00:24:21.760 for the first time
00:24:22.580 kind of met the war room
00:24:23.760 and saying,
00:24:24.800 hey, we got to get
00:24:26.020 to the negotiating table.
00:24:27.880 We got to stop the gunfire.
00:24:29.180 We got to get,
00:24:29.800 we got to make a deal
00:24:30.800 for everybody.
00:24:31.820 And man,
00:24:32.840 the firestorm
00:24:34.240 in Washington, D.C.
00:24:35.460 about that,
00:24:36.100 the poor progressives
00:24:37.020 never knew what hit them.
00:24:38.740 They tried to walk it back
00:24:40.140 a little bit
00:24:41.040 by putting an addendum
00:24:42.060 to the letter
00:24:42.640 late in the afternoon
00:24:43.480 and that wasn't good enough.
00:24:44.760 And then they withdrew it,
00:24:45.680 I think, this morning
00:24:46.400 because they absolutely
00:24:47.540 got browbeaten
00:24:48.380 and tells you how
00:24:49.080 radioactive this Ukraine thing is.
00:24:51.940 The UK and the rest of Europe
00:24:53.520 are not going to be with us.
00:24:54.320 They don't have the money
00:24:55.080 and it's not that big a priority.
00:24:56.440 They're going to want
00:24:56.900 the United States
00:24:57.480 to step up more and more
00:24:58.520 in the lame duck.
00:24:59.920 This is going to be huge.
00:25:00.780 I've got Dr. Thayer.
00:25:02.320 I'm going to bring him on
00:25:03.220 after the break.
00:25:04.260 But Natalie,
00:25:05.560 I think,
00:25:06.580 and I can say this
00:25:07.640 for someone who spends
00:25:09.160 an enormous amount
00:25:10.620 of time in this area,
00:25:12.120 you are probably
00:25:13.160 the top investigative reporter
00:25:15.320 out there
00:25:15.780 for connecting
00:25:16.380 all the dots
00:25:17.360 of the many different
00:25:18.360 types of influence
00:25:19.940 peddling
00:25:20.320 and influence operations
00:25:22.880 of the Chinese Communist Party
00:25:24.240 in the United States,
00:25:25.920 whether it's
00:25:26.340 the U.S. government,
00:25:27.340 information,
00:25:28.140 colleges,
00:25:28.920 the Confucius Institute,
00:25:29.920 all these.
00:25:31.160 As you see Xi,
00:25:32.120 the rise of Xi,
00:25:32.900 and we'll get to Thayer,
00:25:34.220 just give me,
00:25:35.400 tell the audience,
00:25:36.540 how deep is the influence
00:25:37.940 operation of the Chinese
00:25:39.180 Communist Party
00:25:39.780 in the United States, ma'am?
00:25:42.020 Well, Steve,
00:25:42.860 you could probably
00:25:43.580 have me on your show
00:25:44.940 twice a day
00:25:46.260 for five years
00:25:47.620 for two blocks
00:25:49.200 each show,
00:25:50.040 and I probably
00:25:50.720 wouldn't even scratch
00:25:51.420 the surface
00:25:51.900 of Chinese Communist Party
00:25:53.280 infiltration
00:25:53.960 in the United States.
00:25:55.460 It's very regrettable,
00:25:56.560 but this country
00:25:57.200 is, I mean,
00:25:57.840 radioactive
00:25:59.920 Chinese Communist Party
00:26:01.000 influence,
00:26:02.020 and it's all by design.
00:26:03.260 It goes back
00:26:03.900 to the Chinese Communist Party
00:26:05.240 strategy,
00:26:06.380 really of unrestricted
00:26:07.420 and unconventional warfare
00:26:08.680 where they're really
00:26:09.520 trying to overtake
00:26:10.440 the United States
00:26:11.300 and become
00:26:11.800 the new global hegemon
00:26:13.180 without actually
00:26:14.260 having to fire a shot.
00:26:16.400 You know,
00:26:16.640 infiltrating the United States
00:26:17.900 from within
00:26:18.440 is the most powerful way
00:26:19.780 to do that,
00:26:20.800 and I think the corruption
00:26:21.800 goes all the way
00:26:22.520 to the top.
00:26:23.180 I mean,
00:26:23.320 it was Joe Biden
00:26:24.100 in 2011
00:26:25.400 who wrote
00:26:26.000 an op-ed
00:26:26.460 for the New York Times
00:26:27.680 that said
00:26:28.180 China's rise 0.81
00:26:29.200 is in our demise,
00:26:31.040 and I think history
00:26:32.100 in the future, too,
00:26:33.720 will show
00:26:34.060 that that's not the case
00:26:35.220 for most Americans,
00:26:36.260 most Americans,
00:26:38.420 maybe Hunter Biden.
00:26:40.000 Natalie,
00:26:41.460 hang on for a second,
00:26:42.620 Natalie.
00:26:42.880 We're going to take
00:26:43.160 a short commercial break.
00:26:44.080 We're going to bring
00:26:44.500 in Dr. Bradley Thayer
00:26:45.620 to walk us through
00:26:46.560 the new strategy
00:26:47.800 he believes
00:26:48.620 that either
00:26:50.040 the Biden regime
00:26:50.920 or the Republicans
00:26:52.140 are coming
00:26:52.440 to the new Congress.
00:26:53.260 Somebody's got to take
00:26:54.060 a short commercial break.
00:26:55.520 Natalie Winters,
00:26:56.440 Stephen K. Bannon,
00:26:57.440 War Room Battleground.
00:26:58.280 We will join you
00:26:59.120 back in a moment.
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00:29:54.380 Warroom Battleground
00:29:58.940 with Stephen K. Bannon.
00:30:03.980 Natalie Winters
00:30:04.840 and her reporting,
00:30:05.940 her investigations
00:30:06.720 have shown
00:30:07.420 that she's not
00:30:08.240 given to hyperbole.
00:30:09.980 If she doesn't have
00:30:10.700 the receipts,
00:30:11.640 she doesn't say it.
00:30:13.200 Natalie,
00:30:13.480 that may be the most
00:30:14.520 disturbing thing
00:30:16.500 you've ever said
00:30:17.160 on War Room,
00:30:18.620 to say that
00:30:19.520 you could come on
00:30:20.440 every day
00:30:21.560 for two segments
00:30:23.520 every show
00:30:25.380 and in five years,
00:30:27.760 do it for five years
00:30:28.940 and then only
00:30:29.540 scratch the surface.
00:30:30.940 The Chinese Communist Party
00:30:32.480 has,
00:30:33.880 understands that
00:30:35.160 we're their existential threat
00:30:38.360 and they're our
00:30:39.060 existential threat.
00:30:40.120 But they have taken
00:30:41.200 an active program
00:30:42.480 of unrestricted warfare
00:30:44.620 to look at
00:30:45.460 information war,
00:30:47.640 cyber war,
00:30:48.480 economic war
00:30:49.240 and full infiltration
00:30:50.420 to have
00:30:50.820 not just elite,
00:30:52.440 to really have
00:30:53.120 elite capture,
00:30:53.860 I guess is the way you say it.
00:30:54.560 Is there any doubt
00:30:55.060 in your mind
00:30:55.560 as you've done
00:30:56.300 this research
00:30:57.080 over the last couple
00:30:58.420 of years
00:30:58.660 and broken all
00:30:59.220 these stories, ma'am?
00:31:01.580 No, not at all.
00:31:02.720 And I think
00:31:03.180 the scarier part
00:31:04.480 is really
00:31:05.560 the second derivation
00:31:07.060 of elite capture,
00:31:08.320 which to me
00:31:08.940 is the idea
00:31:09.620 of elite merger,
00:31:11.060 which is the concept
00:31:11.980 that American elites,
00:31:13.420 epitomized by Joe Biden,
00:31:15.640 who really have
00:31:16.700 worked closely
00:31:17.580 with the Chinese Communist Party,
00:31:19.220 both publicly
00:31:20.500 and privately,
00:31:21.840 but how they really
00:31:22.520 have kind of
00:31:23.140 taken on the tactics
00:31:24.260 that the Chinese Communist Party
00:31:25.680 uses against their own people,
00:31:27.360 against Americans now. 0.94
00:31:29.160 I mean,
00:31:29.740 you know,
00:31:30.000 the three warfares doctrine,
00:31:31.420 which is sort of
00:31:31.960 the guiding principle
00:31:32.860 for a lot of Chinese
00:31:33.940 military actions,
00:31:35.380 they engage
00:31:36.140 in legal warfare,
00:31:38.260 media warfare,
00:31:39.140 and psychological warfare.
00:31:40.600 And I think you see
00:31:41.600 all those three things
00:31:42.980 occurring here
00:31:43.600 in the United States
00:31:44.520 very intensely.
00:31:46.260 I mean,
00:31:46.740 legally,
00:31:47.780 obviously election activists
00:31:49.180 are being,
00:31:49.720 you know,
00:31:50.660 attacked by the
00:31:51.520 Department of Justice.
00:31:52.280 You see political persecution
00:31:53.780 in terms of psychological warfare.
00:31:55.980 Look at COVID-19 lockdowns
00:31:57.680 and these vaccine pressure campaigns
00:31:59.520 and media warfare.
00:32:00.380 I don't think I have to
00:32:01.420 explain that to anyone
00:32:02.740 who watches the clips
00:32:03.760 you play from MSNBC.
00:32:05.600 But I think that's
00:32:06.580 what's really,
00:32:07.240 really scary now.
00:32:08.220 And that's why you see
00:32:09.120 the Biden regime
00:32:10.140 comporting themselves
00:32:11.240 in such a totalitarian manner,
00:32:13.180 because they look up
00:32:14.780 to the Chinese Communist Party.
00:32:16.760 You know,
00:32:16.960 they get into business
00:32:17.940 with them,
00:32:18.440 not just because it pays
00:32:19.640 to be in business
00:32:20.400 with the Chinese Communist Party,
00:32:22.000 but because they envy
00:32:23.560 the level of power
00:32:25.060 and control
00:32:25.800 that they have
00:32:26.600 over their own people.
00:32:29.320 So, yeah,
00:32:30.280 it's very true
00:32:31.600 that I could come on this show
00:32:32.900 a lot more often
00:32:34.420 and talk about
00:32:34.980 Chinese Communist Party
00:32:36.100 infiltration
00:32:36.880 all the way
00:32:37.920 from kindergarten classrooms,
00:32:39.880 obviously,
00:32:40.480 to colleges,
00:32:41.440 to the assault
00:32:42.080 that they're making now
00:32:42.920 on our farmland
00:32:43.800 and agriculture officials.
00:32:46.040 And it goes all the way
00:32:46.920 to the White House.
00:32:48.600 You know,
00:32:48.800 the Chinese Communist Party
00:32:50.020 knows what they're doing.
00:32:51.260 And unfortunately,
00:32:52.160 our elite ruling class
00:32:53.760 doesn't really have
00:32:54.540 any allegiance
00:32:55.080 to America anymore.
00:32:57.340 I don't think
00:32:57.740 that's an outlandish
00:32:58.740 statement to say.
00:33:00.300 So it's a lot easier
00:33:01.380 for the Chinese Communist Party
00:33:02.620 to get their job done
00:33:03.760 when American elites
00:33:05.120 really don't even
00:33:05.920 believe in America.
00:33:06.960 They think it's an idea
00:33:07.840 as opposed to a country
00:33:08.900 in the first place.
00:33:10.340 So let me bring in
00:33:13.380 Dr. Bradley Thayer
00:33:14.220 with this great piece
00:33:15.080 you have in The Hill,
00:33:15.900 but with Natalie's
00:33:17.340 pretty systematic layout.
00:33:21.400 That was what they did
00:33:22.680 even before
00:33:23.400 Xi's intense
00:33:24.720 concentration of power
00:33:26.120 in the brooming
00:33:26.760 of any kind of opposition.
00:33:28.680 And if you read
00:33:29.520 and read your analysis,
00:33:31.340 they make no bones
00:33:33.900 about the fact
00:33:34.600 that they're at war
00:33:35.200 with us now.
00:33:35.960 If that's ever been hidden,
00:33:37.100 you just have to read
00:33:37.800 these speeches
00:33:38.320 over the 20th Party Congress.
00:33:40.580 So given what
00:33:41.700 Natalie's laid out,
00:33:43.200 it looks like
00:33:43.800 they're winning anyway.
00:33:45.360 Why would they need
00:33:47.360 a more aggressive strategy
00:33:48.520 to really press
00:33:49.280 to a kinetic war
00:33:50.360 away from,
00:33:51.820 you know,
00:33:52.720 irregular warfare,
00:33:54.140 unrestricted warfare,
00:33:55.140 where it looks
00:33:55.680 like they're winning?
00:33:56.480 Why would they press
00:33:57.480 the bet
00:33:57.880 to go all the way
00:33:59.400 to kinetic war
00:34:00.620 or even more aggressive
00:34:01.960 Dr. Thayer?
00:34:03.140 And in your theory,
00:34:04.240 why does Biden
00:34:05.620 need to take
00:34:06.620 a new strategy?
00:34:07.280 Well, Steve,
00:34:09.780 wonderful to be
00:34:10.660 with you again.
00:34:12.440 They don't want
00:34:13.760 to go to the kinetic,
00:34:15.160 to kinetic warfare
00:34:16.860 if they can achieve
00:34:18.820 their aims
00:34:19.360 as they have thus far
00:34:20.700 through non-kinetic means.
00:34:23.940 So that's the first,
00:34:25.580 I think,
00:34:26.420 point to keep in mind.
00:34:28.340 Xi's established himself,
00:34:29.700 as you've noted,
00:34:30.700 of course,
00:34:31.820 this week,
00:34:33.120 in absolute control
00:34:34.760 of the Chinese Communist Party.
00:34:36.200 so he's in control
00:34:37.280 of China.
00:34:39.240 He has economic problems,
00:34:42.020 other problems
00:34:42.860 on the horizon,
00:34:43.780 but he thinks
00:34:45.700 that things are moving
00:34:46.580 his way.
00:34:47.360 And as long
00:34:47.800 as he stays healthy,
00:34:49.340 he's going to be
00:34:50.200 the leader of China.
00:34:52.660 He has,
00:34:54.080 in the speech,
00:34:55.140 of course,
00:34:55.840 that he provided,
00:34:56.980 and as we've seen
00:34:57.820 more recently,
00:34:59.220 targeted,
00:34:59.780 of course,
00:35:00.180 the United States,
00:35:01.960 our allies
00:35:02.740 in the Indo-Pacific,
00:35:04.140 and Taiwan,
00:35:05.460 that he wants
00:35:06.240 to conquer Taiwan
00:35:07.960 and ensure
00:35:08.760 that it is not
00:35:09.600 a state
00:35:10.600 but is absorbed
00:35:11.400 under the Chinese,
00:35:14.140 the control
00:35:14.840 of the Chinese Communist Party.
00:35:16.760 Those are his aims.
00:35:18.140 If he's going to be able
00:35:19.020 to get it
00:35:19.560 non-kinetically,
00:35:21.120 that's obviously,
00:35:22.960 from his perspective,
00:35:24.140 very positively.
00:35:25.960 Taiwan,
00:35:26.660 of course,
00:35:27.460 and his other
00:35:28.300 territorial expansion
00:35:29.800 in the Indo-Pacific
00:35:31.140 should be met
00:35:32.400 with resistance,
00:35:33.900 but that requires leadership.
00:35:36.780 And one of the arguments
00:35:38.080 I was making
00:35:38.840 in the Hill piece
00:35:39.760 is that we need leadership,
00:35:41.840 obviously,
00:35:42.460 on this issue
00:35:43.280 from the Biden administration
00:35:46.000 or from the Republicans
00:35:47.500 or from somebody.
00:35:50.340 Xi's thrown down
00:35:51.140 the gauntlet.
00:35:52.340 He's telling us,
00:35:53.220 as he has,
00:35:55.040 he's telling us explicitly,
00:35:56.500 as explicit
00:35:56.980 as he's ever going to be,
00:35:58.480 that we're his enemy
00:35:59.240 and he's out for us
00:36:01.680 and we need a response
00:36:03.920 to address that
00:36:07.040 from the Biden administration.
00:36:08.480 I want to make sure, 0.96
00:36:09.440 hang, 0.89
00:36:09.820 I want to make sure
00:36:11.160 that the audience
00:36:12.000 understands this.
00:36:13.700 What in the speech,
00:36:14.540 go back to his speeches
00:36:16.360 over the weekend,
00:36:17.820 pull out in the speech
00:36:18.940 where you say
00:36:19.460 he makes it very clear
00:36:20.640 that we're the existential threat
00:36:22.680 and that we have
00:36:23.900 to be dealt with?
00:36:26.100 He's targeting hegemony.
00:36:28.620 So you'll see,
00:36:29.580 hegemony is a stalking horse
00:36:31.020 for the United States.
00:36:32.540 So you'll see in that speech
00:36:34.120 there are references
00:36:35.440 to the fact
00:36:37.320 that China can't accept
00:36:40.060 hegemony
00:36:42.200 of any other entity
00:36:43.860 in international politics.
00:36:45.940 Second point,
00:36:47.820 he talks about
00:36:48.700 China is now moving 0.72
00:36:50.300 towards its second centenary goal,
00:36:53.540 which is a modern socialist country
00:36:55.920 and the rejuvenation
00:36:57.380 of the Chinese nation.
00:36:59.400 That's his claim
00:37:01.480 that China can now run the world, 0.97
00:37:03.920 that China has the power 0.64
00:37:05.280 as a modern socialist country
00:37:08.260 to set the norms,
00:37:11.500 the principles,
00:37:12.360 the rules of the road
00:37:13.500 for international politics,
00:37:16.320 overturning what the British 1.00
00:37:17.760 and the Americans
00:37:18.520 established
00:37:19.120 at the end of World War II
00:37:20.820 and that served us well
00:37:22.260 in the Cold War
00:37:23.120 and after.
00:37:25.260 And then thirdly,
00:37:26.320 explicitly,
00:37:28.040 he's targeting Taiwan.
00:37:29.840 So he's saying
00:37:30.740 that Taiwan,
00:37:32.320 the status quo
00:37:33.400 will not be allowed
00:37:35.080 to be maintained.
00:37:37.820 He's going to change
00:37:38.980 the status quo
00:37:39.900 in Taiwan
00:37:40.680 like Hong Kong,
00:37:42.400 Macau,
00:37:43.540 many other aspects
00:37:45.520 that will fall
00:37:46.140 under the control
00:37:46.920 of the Chinese Communist Party.
00:37:49.220 So here's an,
00:37:49.980 it's rare
00:37:50.820 in international politics
00:37:52.180 where your enemy
00:37:53.040 tells you
00:37:53.820 that he's coming after you
00:37:55.260 explicitly.
00:37:56.740 Stalin did this 0.78
00:37:57.620 in February 1946
00:37:59.020 in a very famous speech
00:38:01.340 where he said
00:38:01.960 capitalism and communism
00:38:03.740 can coexist
00:38:04.720 and communism
00:38:06.220 is going to win.
00:38:07.140 well,
00:38:07.780 what we've had
00:38:08.520 with Xi's address
00:38:09.900 to the 20th Party Congress
00:38:11.240 is the equivalent
00:38:12.620 of Stalin's speech.
00:38:14.580 He's telling us
00:38:15.580 that we can't coexist.
00:38:17.340 He's coming after us
00:38:18.720 and what we need
00:38:21.400 is a response,
00:38:22.740 of course,
00:38:23.740 to this.
00:38:24.320 We need leadership
00:38:25.080 to bring about
00:38:27.040 the tremendous strengths
00:38:28.160 that we have
00:38:28.980 as a country,
00:38:30.840 of course,
00:38:31.340 with allies,
00:38:32.220 with allies within China.
00:38:34.420 Of course,
00:38:34.880 the Chinese people
00:38:35.900 who don't want
00:38:37.420 this odious regime,
00:38:39.140 but we need leadership
00:38:40.440 to bring this together
00:38:42.600 and we don't have.
00:38:44.720 So let's assume,
00:38:46.720 let's assume,
00:38:47.440 let's assume
00:38:48.160 for purposes
00:38:49.680 of this discussion,
00:38:51.440 Natalie's correct 0.97
00:38:52.300 and the Biden administration 0.55
00:38:53.400 is totally corrupt 1.00
00:38:54.900 and incompetent. 0.99
00:38:57.880 So they won't do it. 0.86
00:38:59.620 As,
00:39:00.520 and let's assume
00:39:01.220 that we take
00:39:01.820 the House
00:39:02.220 and the Senate,
00:39:02.980 which I think
00:39:04.020 I don't want to say
00:39:05.300 that we're absolutely
00:39:05.900 going to do it,
00:39:06.440 but it looks like
00:39:06.960 if everybody does
00:39:07.900 their job,
00:39:08.360 we will.
00:39:09.260 What should be the,
00:39:10.120 if the Republicans
00:39:11.400 and particularly guys
00:39:13.140 like Jim Banks
00:39:13.980 and these people
00:39:14.460 that have already
00:39:15.040 promised us
00:39:15.740 that the first committee
00:39:17.240 that's going to be formed
00:39:18.220 is a select committee
00:39:19.160 on the investigations
00:39:20.180 into the influence peddling
00:39:22.240 of,
00:39:23.500 in the influence operations
00:39:24.760 of the Chinese counties
00:39:25.600 fighting in the United States
00:39:26.480 and a lot of that
00:39:27.200 that the audience
00:39:27.880 should understand
00:39:28.340 is coming off
00:39:29.140 of the great work
00:39:30.020 that Natalie Winters
00:39:31.460 has done
00:39:33.100 at National Pulse
00:39:34.540 and on War Room
00:39:35.200 the last couple of years.
00:39:36.800 Let's assume
00:39:37.340 that's correct.
00:39:38.280 What should be the,
00:39:38.980 what should be the Republican,
00:39:40.340 how can the Republican Party
00:39:41.680 drive this
00:39:42.540 and what should be
00:39:43.700 their,
00:39:44.120 their,
00:39:44.980 their objective set
00:39:47.000 in this,
00:39:48.220 in a counter strategy
00:39:49.760 to a now more powerful she?
00:39:53.460 Three things, Steve.
00:39:54.640 First, we need to deter aggression
00:39:56.480 against Taiwan
00:39:57.880 and so that's going to require
00:40:01.180 conventional forces
00:40:03.460 and that's going to require
00:40:04.840 a nuclear force posture
00:40:07.060 in the Indo-Pacific
00:40:08.420 that we don't yet have.
00:40:10.720 So coercing,
00:40:12.180 working with the Biden administration
00:40:14.020 or in some respects
00:40:16.220 working against it,
00:40:17.420 Congress need,
00:40:18.380 purportedly,
00:40:19.440 if the election goes,
00:40:21.140 House goes to Republicans,
00:40:22.360 Senate goes to Republicans,
00:40:23.620 we need to move that
00:40:24.600 secondly,
00:40:25.220 we need a new
00:40:26.100 national security strategy.
00:40:28.120 There's no reason
00:40:28.740 why Congress
00:40:29.360 can't generate that as well.
00:40:30.960 Biden generated
00:40:31.900 and publicly released
00:40:33.020 of course recently
00:40:33.820 the national security strategy
00:40:35.460 and it was
00:40:37.460 not the document
00:40:38.940 you want to have
00:40:40.020 by any stretch
00:40:41.560 of the imagination
00:40:42.280 after Xi's speech.
00:40:44.340 So we need a document
00:40:46.060 that's going to
00:40:47.880 provide a foundation
00:40:49.400 for leadership
00:40:50.240 against Taiwan
00:40:52.840 that declares
00:40:53.720 China,
00:40:54.640 the Communist Party of China
00:40:55.900 to be the enemy
00:40:56.720 of the United States
00:40:57.960 and to lay forth
00:40:59.340 a strategy
00:41:00.060 for its defeat,
00:41:01.280 for the defeat
00:41:01.880 of the Chinese Communist Party.
00:41:04.280 And Congress,
00:41:05.700 Senate,
00:41:06.240 House
00:41:06.600 can do that
00:41:08.480 obviously
00:41:09.880 very,
00:41:10.580 very importantly.
00:41:12.820 Thirdly,
00:41:13.660 Congress,
00:41:14.700 of course,
00:41:15.520 is a co-equal branch
00:41:16.520 of government
00:41:17.060 as we all know,
00:41:18.360 right,
00:41:18.800 they can
00:41:19.540 go to Taiwan, 0.97
00:41:21.780 they can advance
00:41:22.560 I think the right policies
00:41:24.640 in the Indo-Pacific,
00:41:26.660 in Taiwan itself.
00:41:28.700 We saw Nancy Pelosi
00:41:30.040 going of course
00:41:30.880 to Taiwan
00:41:31.500 in August
00:41:32.120 of this year.
00:41:34.180 Other speaker,
00:41:35.880 potentially a speaker
00:41:37.180 McCarthy
00:41:37.740 could do the same
00:41:39.260 as well as
00:41:39.700 other congressional leaders
00:41:40.840 to show
00:41:41.940 American commitment
00:41:43.240 to Taiwan.
00:41:45.060 Taiwan is
00:41:45.960 the Berlin,
00:41:46.860 right,
00:41:47.060 it's on the,
00:41:47.860 it's the immediate
00:41:48.900 crisis that we're facing,
00:41:50.600 not the only one,
00:41:51.760 the Indians have problems 1.00
00:41:53.040 obviously,
00:41:53.900 there's difficulty,
00:41:54.880 very significant difficulties
00:41:56.500 in the South China Sea
00:41:57.560 and the East China Sea
00:41:59.040 with Japan,
00:42:01.040 but Taiwan
00:42:01.860 is the front line
00:42:03.300 and the United States
00:42:05.780 needs to ensure
00:42:06.800 that there's deterrence
00:42:08.400 there,
00:42:09.600 that Xi Jinping
00:42:10.840 does not decide
00:42:12.320 as he's likely to
00:42:14.100 based on his intent,
00:42:15.400 as he's declared,
00:42:17.040 based also on his health,
00:42:19.360 right,
00:42:19.620 his health may not be
00:42:21.000 certainly the best,
00:42:22.340 no one knows of course
00:42:23.560 how long he's going
00:42:24.300 to be in power,
00:42:26.580 and thirdly,
00:42:27.520 because the Biden
00:42:28.420 administration
00:42:29.080 has been feckless
00:42:30.420 in assisting Taiwan,
00:42:33.440 so he's thinking
00:42:34.260 he's got a window
00:42:35.020 of opportunity,
00:42:36.580 and that has to be closed,
00:42:38.400 that's a very significant
00:42:40.340 vulnerability
00:42:40.880 and danger
00:42:41.500 for the United States,
00:42:42.320 and Congress
00:42:42.840 can do a lot
00:42:43.580 to close that
00:42:45.160 if the Biden
00:42:46.260 administration
00:42:47.080 will not.
00:42:53.100 Dr. Thayer,
00:42:53.860 how do people
00:42:54.380 get to this new article?
00:42:55.640 You've written a series
00:42:56.360 of these coming off
00:42:57.100 to tee up
00:42:58.320 for the 20th Party Congress
00:42:59.600 and then coming off
00:43:00.320 of that,
00:43:00.580 I want to make sure,
00:43:01.640 I know you're over
00:43:02.200 at Epoch Times,
00:43:03.100 you're also at the Hill,
00:43:04.280 where do people go
00:43:05.080 to get all of it?
00:43:05.780 on Getter
00:43:09.660 at Bradley Thayer
00:43:10.520 at Getter
00:43:10.980 or Bradley Thayer
00:43:12.060 on Truth
00:43:12.680 or where I post
00:43:14.940 my articles,
00:43:15.520 of course,
00:43:15.820 or they could see
00:43:16.340 the piece today
00:43:17.520 at thehill.com
00:43:18.920 to look at that.
00:43:21.540 Where can people
00:43:22.100 get the book,
00:43:25.380 your new book
00:43:26.020 about this?
00:43:27.840 Understanding the China Threat, 0.93
00:43:29.220 which I co-wrote
00:43:30.060 with Lian Chao Han,
00:43:31.360 it's available
00:43:32.080 at Amazon
00:43:32.660 or at the publishers,
00:43:35.600 Taylor, Francis,
00:43:36.880 Rutledge,
00:43:38.000 all our places
00:43:39.680 to get it.
00:43:40.640 But Steve,
00:43:41.160 we need leadership
00:43:41.860 and if Biden's
00:43:42.900 not providing it,
00:43:43.780 Congress is absolutely
00:43:45.100 going to have to.
00:43:47.060 And we need
00:43:47.760 a strategy.
00:43:48.280 I'm sure Kyle's
00:43:49.000 not going to do it.
00:43:50.640 Yeah.
00:43:50.940 We need a strategy
00:43:51.740 for victory
00:43:52.300 for the defeat
00:43:53.020 of the Chinese
00:43:53.520 Communist Party.
00:43:55.840 We win,
00:43:56.740 they lose.
00:43:58.380 Absolutely.
00:43:58.840 Dr. Thayer,
00:43:59.380 thank you very much.
00:44:00.960 Thank you very much,
00:44:01.880 Steve.
00:44:01.980 Natalie,
00:44:03.100 Natalie,
00:44:04.240 as you know,
00:44:05.020 your reporting
00:44:07.300 is going to be
00:44:07.920 some of the basis
00:44:08.660 for this select committee
00:44:10.780 that's going to be
00:44:11.960 put together
00:44:12.560 at the new Congress.
00:44:13.560 The first one,
00:44:14.120 remember,
00:44:14.380 Banks,
00:44:15.300 who was on here
00:44:16.120 and Banks did
00:44:16.720 the China strategy paper
00:44:18.360 about a year
00:44:19.280 and a half ago.
00:44:20.000 He's a naval officer.
00:44:22.120 He said that,
00:44:23.100 hey,
00:44:23.580 coming out of
00:44:24.380 the commitment
00:44:25.260 to America,
00:44:26.580 you know,
00:44:26.760 kind of people
00:44:27.220 criticize this
00:44:28.060 to generals,
00:44:28.840 it's too not
00:44:29.660 specific enough.
00:44:30.300 The one thing
00:44:31.260 that was specific,
00:44:32.420 they said they're
00:44:32.960 going to form
00:44:33.300 this joint committee
00:44:34.920 and it's a committee
00:44:35.520 on the investigation
00:44:36.400 of the influence
00:44:37.160 of the China,
00:44:38.320 the influence operations
00:44:39.420 of the CCP.
00:44:40.700 Right before I let you go,
00:44:41.720 yesterday,
00:44:42.680 Merrick Garland
00:44:43.260 made this huge deal.
00:44:44.280 He had Ray,
00:44:44.960 he had Monaco up there,
00:44:46.120 he had all of them
00:44:46.700 up there.
00:44:47.680 This is really kind of,
00:44:48.920 I'm not saying
00:44:49.280 it's a misdirection plan,
00:44:50.240 it's fine what they're doing,
00:44:51.180 but it's so mid-level
00:44:52.620 and low-level
00:44:53.380 whether or not
00:44:55.000 there's so much
00:44:55.860 deep corruption
00:44:56.820 by the Chinese Communist Party
00:44:58.080 in this country.
00:44:59.300 Do you think
00:44:59.700 that's just essentially
00:45:00.580 a misdirection plan
00:45:01.480 to get the heat off
00:45:02.200 and to show
00:45:02.580 that they're doing something?
00:45:04.660 Yeah,
00:45:05.100 there's a term
00:45:05.740 that the left
00:45:06.400 likes to use
00:45:07.620 to describe people
00:45:08.660 who they don't think
00:45:09.420 are thoroughly committed
00:45:10.480 enough to their
00:45:11.460 social justice goals
00:45:13.180 and it's performative activism
00:45:14.800 and I think
00:45:15.340 that's exactly
00:45:16.000 what you're seeing
00:45:16.760 from the Biden regime
00:45:17.820 now when it comes
00:45:18.660 to trying to peddle
00:45:19.840 a tough line
00:45:20.500 on the Chinese Communist Party.
00:45:22.020 You aren't considered
00:45:23.320 tough on China 0.71
00:45:24.180 if you only go after
00:45:25.580 some of their companies
00:45:26.800 after your son
00:45:27.980 has made money
00:45:28.640 off of them
00:45:29.160 for decades.
00:45:30.300 That's just sort of
00:45:31.280 covering up.
00:45:32.120 It's a misdirection plan
00:45:33.160 and I think
00:45:33.560 it's also really important
00:45:34.640 to note
00:45:35.260 in terms of what we can do
00:45:36.260 to combat this influence.
00:45:38.160 You've said that
00:45:39.120 there's obviously
00:45:39.660 going to be a lot of Democrats
00:45:40.860 and even establishment
00:45:41.620 Republicans
00:45:42.140 who will be losing
00:45:42.920 their seats
00:45:43.460 in these upcoming
00:45:44.160 midterm elections.
00:45:45.640 A lot of those people
00:45:46.540 are prime candidates
00:45:47.520 to become lobbyists
00:45:48.920 for Chinese Communist Party
00:45:50.480 run companies
00:45:51.300 and everything
00:45:52.020 so I think
00:45:54.500 it's important
00:45:55.040 that we have
00:45:55.680 regulations
00:45:56.280 and restrictions
00:45:56.980 in place
00:45:57.740 to prevent
00:45:58.660 these establishment
00:45:59.600 type figures
00:46:00.740 from selling out
00:46:01.820 to our enemies.
00:46:04.940 Perfect.
00:46:05.620 Natalie,
00:46:05.940 how do people
00:46:06.420 follow you
00:46:07.020 on social media now?
00:46:08.860 Where do they go
00:46:09.300 to get you?
00:46:10.660 Natalie G. Winters
00:46:11.900 on Getter
00:46:12.540 and of course
00:46:13.160 go to warroom.org
00:46:14.500 where we're always
00:46:15.100 posting stories
00:46:16.060 in the warroom Getter
00:46:17.180 where we're providing
00:46:18.500 the signal
00:46:19.160 and not the noise.
00:46:20.280 Natalie Winters
00:46:23.440 executive editor
00:46:24.440 of All Things Worm.
00:46:25.560 Thank you very much
00:46:26.140 for joining us, ma'am.
00:46:27.640 Thank you for having me.
00:46:30.500 Those investigations
00:46:31.640 are going to be known
00:46:33.320 as something
00:46:33.880 incredibly important
00:46:34.820 going forward
00:46:35.420 to thwart this
00:46:36.140 what's happening.
00:46:37.020 Let's go.
00:46:37.400 Defenders of the West 0.97
00:46:38.300 is one of my favorite books.
00:46:40.260 One of my favorite books
00:46:41.440 of this year.
00:46:42.160 Incredibly written
00:46:42.900 by an incredible guy
00:46:43.960 Raymond Ibrahim.
00:46:45.540 Raymond,
00:46:46.300 I know
00:46:46.980 we've talked about this.
00:46:48.180 We've had some difficulty
00:46:49.480 getting you on.
00:46:50.040 You've been traveling.
00:46:51.400 Walk us through
00:46:52.000 the story
00:46:52.600 that we should be focused on.
00:46:54.080 In here
00:46:54.700 you break down stories
00:46:55.780 of Richard the Lionheart,
00:46:56.900 El Cid.
00:46:57.900 You've got kind of
00:46:58.540 a who's who
00:46:59.200 and actually some people
00:47:00.420 that people in the West
00:47:01.600 don't know that well.
00:47:02.780 But walk us through
00:47:03.380 what you got for us today.
00:47:05.360 Sure, Steve.
00:47:05.940 And thanks for having me on.
00:47:07.300 You know,
00:47:07.600 with what's going on
00:47:08.420 in the world
00:47:08.880 and what you talk about,
00:47:09.920 you know,
00:47:10.120 these stories from the past
00:47:11.680 may seem irrelevant,
00:47:12.520 but I really find them,
00:47:14.540 you know,
00:47:14.760 they live up to
00:47:15.580 what Ecclesiastes
00:47:16.600 in the Bible says,
00:47:17.740 which is nothing new
00:47:18.680 under the sun.
00:47:19.420 You know,
00:47:19.580 what was done before
00:47:20.340 is happening again,
00:47:21.160 as you will see,
00:47:22.480 along with the inspiration
00:47:23.560 that one can draw from them.
00:47:24.620 But the particular story
00:47:26.020 I have for you today
00:47:26.940 deals with the Cid
00:47:28.340 and it actually might
00:47:29.900 strike home for you
00:47:30.820 personally
00:47:31.280 because the Cid,
00:47:33.040 as you know,
00:47:33.420 you know,
00:47:33.800 he was so well,
00:47:35.200 he was the fiercest warrior
00:47:36.260 in Spain
00:47:36.920 that he went by
00:47:37.920 the Arabic
00:47:38.780 El Sayyid. 0.74
00:47:40.620 That's where we get Cid,
00:47:41.520 which means the Lord.
00:47:42.520 And he was known
00:47:43.220 by the Spaniards
00:47:44.740 as the Campiador,
00:47:46.020 which means the master
00:47:46.800 of the battlefield.
00:47:47.680 So even his epithets
00:47:49.100 really tell you who he is.
00:47:50.780 But right around 1084,
00:47:52.860 there was a massive jihadist
00:47:54.260 pouring into Spain
00:47:55.500 by what are known
00:47:56.740 as the Al-Murabit Caliphate,
00:47:58.800 who were just hardcore jihadists,
00:48:00.500 just like ISIS, 0.98
00:48:01.320 as you'll see.
00:48:02.240 And they destroyed the Spaniards 1.00
00:48:03.860 at the Battle of Sagrajas,
00:48:05.780 also in October.
00:48:07.000 And they ended up
00:48:07.820 decapitating 2,400 Christians, 0.89
00:48:10.180 building a pyramid.
00:48:11.000 And the Muazzin went up 1.00
00:48:12.820 and started calling
00:48:13.520 the jihadists
00:48:14.920 to calls to prayers
00:48:15.880 and just stomping
00:48:17.100 on their heads
00:48:17.680 and so forth.
00:48:18.360 Pretty gruesome stuff,
00:48:19.640 like I said,
00:48:20.140 just like ISIS. 0.76
00:48:21.420 And what's interesting
00:48:22.000 is right before that,
00:48:23.340 the king of Spain,
00:48:24.680 Alfonso VI,
00:48:26.200 had actually banished
00:48:27.520 the Sid,
00:48:28.360 who was,
00:48:29.060 you know,
00:48:29.320 who could have actually
00:48:30.160 changed the tide
00:48:30.900 of that battle.
00:48:31.740 And the reason he banished him
00:48:33.060 is because
00:48:33.720 the Sid showed
00:48:35.240 some contempt,
00:48:36.020 actually.
00:48:36.800 When Alfonso VI
00:48:38.220 was being sworn in,
00:48:39.740 actually the Sid
00:48:40.420 was the only one
00:48:41.020 to protest.
00:48:41.780 And he put a Bible
00:48:43.080 in his face
00:48:43.700 and told him to put his hand
00:48:44.600 and swear three times
00:48:45.720 that he did not kill
00:48:46.540 his older brother,
00:48:48.020 Sancho II,
00:48:49.340 which possibly he could have.
00:48:51.020 And, you know,
00:48:51.920 despite that cheat,
00:48:53.020 Alfonso actually did it
00:48:54.340 to sate the Sid.
00:48:55.940 But he carried this anger
00:48:57.380 in his heart.
00:48:58.120 And then once he had
00:48:59.260 a pretext,
00:48:59.740 he actually banished
00:49:00.580 the Sid
00:49:01.340 for that contemptuous
00:49:02.780 display.
00:49:04.440 And that's why
00:49:05.720 he wasn't at the battle.
00:49:06.480 At any rate,
00:49:07.340 then he called him forth
00:49:08.320 after that,
00:49:09.180 you know,
00:49:09.420 the 2,400 decapitation siege.
00:49:12.120 And the Sid
00:49:12.620 just went on a blitzkrieg
00:49:13.900 and just completely
00:49:14.760 devastated all these
00:49:16.080 jihadist gains.
00:49:17.820 Valencia had been taken
00:49:18.960 by the Muslims
00:49:19.980 and he retook it
00:49:21.120 after a 19-month siege.
00:49:22.840 And then that's where
00:49:23.360 this particular battle,
00:49:24.540 which occurred
00:49:24.840 on October 21st,
00:49:26.340 comes in.
00:49:27.100 Something like 50,000
00:49:28.180 more surrounded him.
00:49:29.600 And he only had
00:49:30.160 4,000 knights,
00:49:31.060 his wife and daughters
00:49:32.840 were holed up with him.
00:49:34.320 And in just a wild display,
00:49:35.880 once all the mass,
00:49:37.000 the throng of Muslim 0.98
00:49:38.100 jihadists had surrounded him,
00:49:39.880 and even in the text
00:49:40.880 they were screaming,
00:49:41.440 Allah Akbar,
00:49:42.300 he came out
00:49:43.000 in a violent blitzkrieg
00:49:44.260 just so suddenly
00:49:45.140 with all his armed men
00:49:46.360 on top horses
00:49:48.080 and just, you know,
00:49:48.880 two lines
00:49:49.520 that kept blitzkrieging
00:49:50.440 and crisscrossing
00:49:51.760 across the army.
00:49:53.700 The jihadists
00:49:54.140 completely devastated them.
00:49:56.060 And that's why
00:49:56.880 he's still known
00:49:57.500 until this very day.
00:49:58.420 But he did so much
00:49:59.280 more beyond that.
00:50:00.260 But like I said,
00:50:01.700 it's interesting
00:50:02.300 because all these men,
00:50:03.360 not just the Sith,
00:50:04.040 always had internal enemies
00:50:05.960 who continuously
00:50:07.100 and always subverted
00:50:08.220 the fog against them.
00:50:10.460 So like I said,
00:50:11.160 you know,
00:50:11.300 these stories are not,
00:50:12.180 you know,
00:50:12.580 past and present,
00:50:13.640 continuing.
00:50:13.980 They're timeless.
00:50:15.280 Look, this book,
00:50:15.820 this book,
00:50:16.500 you can't put down
00:50:17.160 when you get it.
00:50:17.680 How do you get
00:50:18.160 the Defenders of the West?
00:50:19.820 Because it's absolutely
00:50:20.540 magnificent.
00:50:21.220 We got about 30 seconds.
00:50:22.260 Where do people go
00:50:22.860 to get it?
00:50:24.080 You can obviously
00:50:24.760 get it on Amazon.
00:50:26.080 I would just go online
00:50:27.280 and Google Defenders
00:50:28.400 of the West
00:50:29.000 and you'll get
00:50:29.700 various places.
00:50:30.580 There's conservative
00:50:31.140 peters.com as well.
00:50:34.700 It's absolutely incredible.
00:50:36.360 Beautifully written
00:50:37.100 and amazingly researched.
00:50:39.880 Rabin Ibrahim,
00:50:40.640 thank you very much.
00:50:41.580 El Cid.
00:50:43.540 Incredible.
00:50:44.200 2,400 decapitations.
00:50:46.240 Okay.
00:50:46.740 By the way,
00:50:47.280 Independent Newspaper of UK,
00:50:48.900 we're not calling for that
00:50:50.080 for Tony Fauci.
00:50:51.000 Just investigations.
00:50:52.620 As the hunted
00:50:53.480 will become the hunters.
00:50:55.000 See you again tomorrow morning,
00:50:55.940 10 o'clock,
00:50:56.420 in the war room.